@@Jack_1878 johns lyrics flipped bavkwards, not ians, ian writes like a rapper in punchy statements like f.e.a.r, adored, ressurection, john uses imagery
Ian Brown acknowledged that Waterfall was primarily John's composition and 'Don't Stop' was John playing around with his masterpiece, backwards. Fantastic.
Yeah, but when John took over all songwriting on the 2nd album, the output declined. John's a Led Zeppelin, Rock and Roll guy - all the groove comes from Ian
Don’t stop is much more than a reversed waterfall - it seems to use that as a foundation then layer lots of other stuff over it - creating a sort of mellow cousin to waterfall and takes the album into a mellow psychedelic place - it’s my favourite track off the album. I love don’t stop. X
People who think this band is all about Ian Brown and John Squire have totally missed the point. Mani and Reni create a groove bigger than the grand canyon! Seen them at Heaton Park (which felt like the biggest party ive ever been to btw!) and Finsbury Park but would love to hear their whole set like this.
a great point. without reni they'd just sound like a grunge band (see the second coming gigs). people forget how important a groove is, not just the melody. we have evolved to dance, and reni and mani brought the funk. not many bands have the funk.
i remember being 16 in 1994, buying this album and being totally blown away by the fact that they did waterfall and then immediately did waterfall backwards. that they can play it live is even cooler. it still impresses me i wake, i steal, look how i feel- loose
James Beardmore No he's right, this is Waterfall in reverse. Elephant Stone in reverse is a track called Full Fathom Five (which was one of the B-sides to Elephant Stone)
People love 4 peices. Let's face, ever since The Beatles. All you need here, a singer with some percussion in his hands, a talented drummer backing the singer's vocals, a great guitarist and excellent bass player. A tight unit.
Reni is the reason I started to play drums 20+ years ago and to see him better than ever now is again awe inspiring - I was there at Heaton Park but to see his work (beats and bv's) this up close is just mind - blowing...
Did you see/have you heard his drum solo intro to Resurrection at Finsbury Park? I think it was Mani who said he would've paid to watch Reni play on his own, I couldn't agree more.
Seriously impressive that they learned how to play this so well considering the album version was pretty much just a backmasked version of Waterfall with a few overdubs... and Reni is still the heart of the Roses music... great stuff...
Hypnodelica I know. There was a point in giving us Don't Stop in the first place. Hard making the lyrics out back in the day, but it was a very emotional tune and I interpreted the lyrics as I pleased. Think we all did. The original was trippy as hell. It's a favourite of mine.
Kelly14UK These blokes probably sold their soul back in the day. How can you make such a great song as "Waterfall" and then do it backwards with different lyrics and make it awesome again?
*-* Ask the Starchild *-* Paul Schroeder, I think was the producer's name. He's the artist on those backwards records. You probably know this already, but I'll post it for the benefit of noobs : Elephant Stone/ Full Fathom Five; Waterfall/ Don't Stop; Made of Stone/ Guernica; Where Angels Play/ Simone and She Bangs The Drums/ I Am Without Shoes.
All talented musicians. good lord what chemistry. I have never seen this before. Most successful bands would kill for just a drop of this. Hope they use it and make us happy and better.
a true mystery how ian brown can sound so abysmally awful so often live, and then here and there.....BOOM....literal perfection. the harmonies here are angelic....perfect.
I always thought this was the Waterfall played backwards...Now....This is just outstanding composing masterpiece of syncopated rhythms and harmonies...Absolute musical craftsman-ship here...And Ian's lyrics to top it up! What else would you wish from the music?
+Cyrus Budd Of course it is Waterfall backwards. I always thought his was a bad idea. First of all Waterfall is such a wonderful song &, second, it sounds sh!t backwards!!
Absolutely magical. What an incredible guitarist John Squire really is and as for Ian and Reni's harmonies, brilliant just brilliant. Long live The Roses!
I took for granted all this back in the day but I realise just how privileged i was to have been rounded at the time.It was the best of days..a real fucking blinder!
It's amazing to see it when you've heard the album version. I was a bit young when the album came out so didn't really properly listen until around 20 years ago. This is majestic.
The more I listen to this, the more amazing and incredible it seems. every nuance. It actually sounds like a song backwards (I realise it is, but to make it sound like it is no mean feat!), the intonation, the timing, Reni's harmonies just a skip of a beat behind, giving it that slightly delayed, almost dragging sound you get when you hear something played backward - pure genius - love them!
I love the fact u feeling the roses together in the studio, it's a mancz ting, and a brotherly love for them all time, I find it, a Waterfall, lucky boro fc
I can't find words special enough to express how much this means to me at the moment. I just keep watching this and Waterfall and it's really helping me through a bad period of my life. Watching Reni really raises my spirits, he's so expressive and the beautiful vocals and rhythms topped off with Squires guitar just 👌
So tight and polished without a hint of arrogance and aged perfectly with out aging and in the region of 30 years with only one album that never feels exhausted or rinsed and is one of 5albums that can be played entirely without any ffwd or interruption
I truly hope these guys understand that it doesn't matter if they never made another record as successful, or as impactful as this one. This album is such an incredible accomplishment, such an influence, such a masterpiece, that making it is more than enough for anyone to have done in one life. It has had such a profound effect on so many people, myself included. Side note, this album was playing the first time I experienced romantic love... I don't know if the album enhanced that experience, or vice versa,.,. but that experience, and these songs are intrinsically linked forever now. (Miss you Jill Lott).
thanks for uploading! good to see the whole band at their best again. i hope shane meadows and the lads release the full rehearsals, parr hall & heaton park footage SOON!! roses rule!!!
Mind blowing and brilliant. So blessed to have had this band in my life since 1989. This is my favourite part of the film, even though it’s just in the extra’s. Do hope something is put out at some point , just from these rehearsals. They must have hours and hours and hours of footage.
My fav Roses song, this dosen't quite have the dreamy phychedelic feel of the original recording (obviously) but to see these four great artists at work is awesome, many thanks for posting
But in the context that the original recording was just Waterfall reversed with a few overdubs it's fucking extraordinary that they learned to play it live like this...
Look how much they absolutely love playing this. Such an incidental tune on the LP when it came out. My fave tune live every time i saw them on the comeback tours/s.
This band has arguably three of the best musicians that happened to come together. This song proves it. Squires first few chords of playing reverse chords is genius. Mani's melodic bass drives the song through. Reni's drumming , its hard to put into words how good this man sounds, i would need 4 arms and 4 legs to try and replicate what this man can do , he is probably the greatest drummer of all time imo. Individually some of the greatest musicians of their generation, together often flawed and often the making of their own downfall , but its often genius and group fragility that creates the greatest sounds , like The Smiths , its almost like the music is that good it cant sustain itself , it has to come to a crescendo to end. I miss the days of the stone roses , when life was uncomplicated and people had fun and no one cared or only did things for likes on the internet.
This song makes me feel 10 foot tall and invincible and utterly proud to like this type of music. This band is stamped on my heart.
Yeah man. The world's a bit shit right now but this makes me feel the goodness. The joy. It's pure beauty.
perfect
Alan Wren. The worlds most talented musician. Effortless drumming combined with harmonising with Ian Browns lyrics. It doesn’t get any better.
I agree with Andy Reni as a genius has synchronisation with brown is something to behold_keep the faith Andy 🛵🛵🛵
they should have statues of him in Salford
So fucking unacknowledged
@@Jack_1878 johns lyrics flipped bavkwards, not ians, ian writes like a rapper in punchy statements like f.e.a.r, adored, ressurection, john uses imagery
Reni's vocal are simply stunning here. Cant stop watching this. the whole piece is beautiful.
+CherryPhosphate70 Totally agree..
+CherryPhosphate70 Great to see "Tomorrow Never Knows" actually done straight as a rock band.
+CherryPhosphate70
Same here; each and every time engrossingly mezmerizing.
+CherryPhosphate70 Guy was talented as hell. Mersey Paradise one of the finest songs ever. Hope he did backing vocals on that brilliant song.
Cant stop watching it? Then Dont Stop.
You're welcome.
I'll let myself out.
LET'S PLAY ONE OUR BEST TUNES - THEN LET'S PLAY IT FUCKIN BACKWARDS
The real wonder is that it sounds pretty good.
Pmsl
Damn so clever there's tallent rite there say no more love this👍👍👊
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Ian Brown acknowledged that Waterfall was primarily John's composition and 'Don't Stop' was John playing around with his masterpiece, backwards. Fantastic.
Squire dictates that whole jam. Class
Johns writing is imagery, so john wrote waterfall, tighttrope, breaking into heaven, ians is more statemets, like a rapper, fear, cant see me, corpses
@@rizzledizzle9801best example is that ian wrote the verse and john wrote the chorus to she bangs the drums
Yeah, but when John took over all songwriting on the 2nd album, the output declined. John's a Led Zeppelin, Rock and Roll guy - all the groove comes from Ian
their finest performance. this songs brings up a strange mix of feelings - excitement, beauty and revolution. makes me feel like anything is possible.
me too, datsunyellow, love this
Perfect definiction
🙄
right - what England could and should be now
Don’t stop is much more than a reversed waterfall - it seems to use that as a foundation then layer lots of other stuff over it - creating a sort of mellow cousin to waterfall and takes the album into a mellow psychedelic place - it’s my favourite track off the album. I love don’t stop. X
Best drummer of all time. Just listening to him play makes me smile every time.
great drummer, but settle down. he's no Bonham or Paice
I’m going through a tough time right now and this track has an oddly calming and euphoric effect. Thank you Stone Roses 🌹
Hope you're better now! This song is magic!
Still thinking of you. Stay cool xx
@@jameswhittingham8027 Thanks Pal, Getting there now :)
@@thedigitalemotion Sometimes you have to try to get along xx
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Hope you pulled through ok.
I'm a drummer of 25 years and a fan.....RENI is simply incredible. All in the wrist! He FEELS all of it.
The chemistry is almost spiritual here.
ian and reni's harmonies
Mani and reni's beat
John and reni's fills
+djphineart It is lovely ...but Ian and Reni have clearly been auto-tuned
+sratus not at all lol
It's as clear as day, listen to it again, their voices sound robotic
+sratus when they made the first album there was no way of auto'tuning sounded very good to me ...its not the fookin xfactor
anthony truman not talking about the vocals on the first album
People who think this band is all about Ian Brown and John Squire have totally missed the point. Mani and Reni create a groove bigger than the grand canyon! Seen them at Heaton Park (which felt like the biggest party ive ever been to btw!) and Finsbury Park but would love to hear their whole set like this.
a great point. without reni they'd just sound like a grunge band (see the second coming gigs). people forget how important a groove is, not just the melody. we have evolved to dance, and reni and mani brought the funk. not many bands have the funk.
Excellent rhythm section
When people say really obvious things, and act like they're the first person to ever say it - Reni/Mani were a great rhythm section. We know
@@chrisjames6327 you having a pop at an 8 year old comment? 🤣
@@MrFridaynightclub he spent most of the 2010s thinking it was a good comment. I ended that
I`m 43 years old, I wept unashamed tears of joy in the cinema when this part came up.
Lea Millership did the same a few nights ago whilst listening.......Reni omg.
No shame in that at all
This isn’t in the film
Still one of the greatest things on the internet.
Still
@@jameswhittingham8027 It's that good of a song in it's own right you forget it's Waterfall backwards.
@@Britpopsoul Paint your steel guitar from the top.
i remember being 16 in 1994, buying this album and being totally blown away by the fact that they did waterfall and then immediately did waterfall backwards. that they can play it live is even cooler. it still impresses me
i wake, i steal, look how i feel- loose
The smile between John and mani at 2:18 was the recognition of greatness
Not a word in the comments on the fact that this song is actually "Waterfall" in Reverse ? Above Genius, supernatural
Probably because it was Elephant Stone in reverse...
James Beardmore No he's right, this is Waterfall in reverse. Elephant Stone in reverse is a track called Full Fathom Five (which was one of the B-sides to Elephant Stone)
Because most people already know that its waterfall backwards
piluleli no, because that was obvious since the album was released. Nothing new
Probably because everyone on planet earth knows it's Waterfall in reverse, so it doesn't need to be said.
This drummer is facking great
RENI
Didn't think it was possible, but this is better than the recorded version!
People love 4 peices. Let's face, ever since The Beatles. All you need here, a singer with some percussion in his hands, a talented drummer backing the singer's vocals, a great guitarist and excellent bass player. A tight unit.
Take Reni away it all falls apart...
@@anthonyaylmer1704 definitely doesn't fall apart but it would be nowhere as good
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inspirational
Reni is the reason I started to play drums 20+ years ago and to see him better than ever now is again awe inspiring - I was there at Heaton Park but to see his work (beats and bv's) this up close is just mind - blowing...
Did you see/have you heard his drum solo intro to Resurrection at Finsbury Park? I think it was Mani who said he would've paid to watch Reni play on his own, I couldn't agree more.
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Seriously impressive that they learned how to play this so well considering the album version was pretty much just a backmasked version of Waterfall with a few overdubs... and Reni is still the heart of the Roses music... great stuff...
Hypnodelica I know. There was a point in giving us Don't Stop in the first place. Hard making the lyrics out back in the day, but it was a very emotional tune and I interpreted the lyrics as I pleased. Think we all did. The original was trippy as hell. It's a favourite of mine.
Kelly14UK These blokes probably sold their soul back in the day. How can you make such a great song as "Waterfall" and then do it backwards with different lyrics and make it awesome again?
*-* Ask the Starchild *-* Paul Schroeder, I think was the producer's name. He's the artist on those backwards records. You probably know this already, but I'll post it for the benefit of noobs :
Elephant Stone/ Full Fathom Five; Waterfall/ Don't Stop; Made of Stone/ Guernica; Where Angels Play/ Simone and She Bangs The Drums/ I Am Without Shoes.
Paul Schroeder was the engineer, John Leckie was the producer...
Hypnodelica That's right. Thanks.
Just absolutely beautiful......brought up to love the Beatles, the Floyd, the Who, but MY band, from MY generation were the best of them all..........
Great comment
This is pure poetry the groove is monumental,just listen to it
Mr Wren's vocals are sweet, and is as harmonic as his drums, Mr Moon would be insanely impressed,
Agreed!
when your rehearsals is better than your concert , youre LEGEND !
I don't want to get famous Bob
Such a great version. Notice at 1:56 and 3:54 (and more times) how Reni is moving below the cymbals to make eye contact with Ian for the vocals...
All talented musicians. good lord what chemistry. I have never seen this before. Most successful bands would kill for just a drop of this. Hope they use it and make us happy and better.
+Harry Spinoza
What a cool comment. Nice one.
+Harry Spinoza
Only too true.
True-Blue-Cool.
Could listen this on loop all day, beautiful ❤❤
So sad it all ended before they could cut a new album. "Beautiful Thing" is a stunning track and a taste of what might have been.
a true mystery how ian brown can sound so abysmally awful so often live, and then here and there.....BOOM....literal perfection. the harmonies here are angelic....perfect.
Autotune here for the film. He does sound okay sometimes though.
I guess he was relaxed
I always thought this was the Waterfall played backwards...Now....This is just outstanding composing masterpiece of syncopated rhythms and harmonies...Absolute musical craftsman-ship here...And Ian's lyrics to top it up! What else would you wish from the music?
it is lol with different lyrics
It is Waterfall backwards! They just changed the lyrics to something more understandable I guess :)
+Cyrus Budd John wrote lyrics roughly around what he taught the lyrics to waterfall sounded like played backwards. Impressive bastard
+Cyrus Budd
Of course it is Waterfall backwards. I always thought his was a bad idea. First of all Waterfall is such a wonderful song &, second, it sounds sh!t backwards!!
+MrPge1970 hehe, now I know I'm not the only one who knows the king is wearing no clothes ;)
How many times am I going to watch this...
It will be cause it's my phone Mugg s got my number but not sure if you hatiy yes
Fuck! The drummer has an awesome voice! Wow! Just one of the many of the uniquenesses of this band!
What a bloke reni is.
I'm not sure what this means, but I'm pretty sure I agree with it.
Loved you guys since I were 13. Now 39 and still love your music. fekkin brill!
michael joseph met them when i was 12 in 89 now 37 :)
Reni's got the most beautiful voice as well as being the most energetic and talented drummer I've ever witnessed
Absolutely magical. What an incredible guitarist John Squire really is and as for Ian and Reni's harmonies, brilliant just brilliant. Long live The Roses!
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I took for granted all this back in the day but I realise just how privileged i was to have been rounded at the time.It was the best of days..a real fucking blinder!
Love the album version but I can't stop watching this! Genius the lot of em
It's amazing to see it when you've heard the album version. I was a bit young when the album came out so didn't really properly listen until around 20 years ago. This is majestic.
I can’t actually explain the feeling I get from this. Suppose that’s what makes it so special.
Never gets old just gets better and better with age the music is timeless and beautiful
What a special band, these tunes are getting played at my funeral! All 4 of them could do individual solo shows and play a blinder!
Oh man the bass and drums are in total harmony while the guitar compliments the tune beautifully
I can't believe how good these guys sound. I can't believe how they aged gracefully. I can't believe how good Mani sings and plays these funkys beats.
its Reni on drums mate…. Mani plays bass
Thank you, I always do that, I'm so dumb haha!
Mani means peanut in spanish 😅
True fan right there.
The way Ian plays guitar and John sings, with Reni’s bass lines is just the cherry on the cake 👌🏻
RENI is incredible
absolutely brilliant harmonies by Reni and of course Mani looking like he's hanging on for dear life. Great version!!
Did someone order the best band in the world ? Yea mate, you want fries with that ? xxx
Yep and got super sized!
Yea no coke this time tho
Yes and some E
I'll go large ta 👌
naw chips, raw in the middle crispy on the outside, round
this is why i love music so much, the understanding of these 4 is something to behold
Just beautiful! I wanna cry for all the lost years and songs that never were. Thanks for these posts.
Sounds better than the album. Pure magic.
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The more I listen to this, the more amazing and incredible it seems. every nuance. It actually sounds like a song backwards (I realise it is, but to make it sound like it is no mean feat!), the intonation, the timing, Reni's harmonies just a skip of a beat behind, giving it that slightly delayed, almost dragging sound you get when you hear something played backward - pure genius - love them!
pure genius
this a thing of beauty .Made me cry watching it .unreal
The mark of a truly great drummer is to make playing look so easy. Reni does this and then some. Amazing musicianship
I get chills each time that I listen to this and each time I get so lost within the melody and lyrics.
Divine!
listen to those voices intertwine and give it to us all.mancland!!
Beyond Sublime. What a special band they were. Changed my life, man.
I love the fact u feeling the roses together in the studio, it's a mancz ting, and a brotherly love for them all time, I find it, a Waterfall, lucky boro fc
I can't find words special enough to express how much this means to me at the moment. I just keep watching this and Waterfall and it's really helping me through a bad period of my life. Watching Reni really raises my spirits, he's so expressive and the beautiful vocals and rhythms topped off with Squires guitar just 👌
right - exactly
Absolute stunning work of art.
This is mind blowing taz scfc 💚✌️💯💚✌️
I got chills the first time the radio played "I wanna be adored" here in the states, instant fan.
Can't believe I missed these guys when they came out!!!
Great songwriting/guitarwork and vocal harmonies.
Mani! always so modest, playing like he's a kid being given his 1st go... godlike! 😎
One of the coolest rhythm sections ever. I love this version, better than the album version!, so great
So tight and polished without a hint of arrogance and aged perfectly with out aging and in the region of 30 years with only one album that never feels exhausted or rinsed and is one of 5albums that can be played entirely without any ffwd or interruption
Love it. The highlight of the DVD extras for me. Love Mani's nod at the end, he knew they'd nailed it. More rehearsal footage please Shane Meadows
What DVD is this?
tacosconfuso the extra dvd to Made of Stone
I truly hope these guys understand that it doesn't matter if they never made another record as successful, or as impactful as this one. This album is such an incredible accomplishment, such an influence, such a masterpiece, that making it is more than enough for anyone to have done in one life. It has had such a profound effect on so many people, myself included.
Side note, this album was playing the first time I experienced romantic love... I don't know if the album enhanced that experience, or vice versa,.,. but that experience, and these songs are intrinsically linked forever now. (Miss you Jill Lott).
This never ever ever gets old, music today doesn’t even get anywhere near this
It brings me too my knees
So good
So musical
Reni and Ian singing together is simply perfect 👌
Ufffff
Impresionante. Que maravilla! Podria estar horas oyendo este ensayo.
BRILLIANT!
very happy to see these boys together again, i was one of those who bought their album in 89 and still one of my faves, Thank You very very much!!
Lot of love here between them ....totally amazing !!!!
Reni’s vocal is sooooo good with Ian
thanks for uploading! good to see the whole band at their best again. i hope shane meadows and the lads release the full rehearsals, parr hall & heaton park footage SOON!! roses rule!!!
John's guitar is beautiful!
Telecaster
Mind blowing and brilliant. So blessed to have had this band in my life since 1989. This is my favourite part of the film, even though it’s just in the extra’s. Do hope something is put out at some point , just from these rehearsals. They must have hours and hours and hours of footage.
What film is it in ?
effortless and flawless...
My fav Roses song, this dosen't quite have the dreamy phychedelic feel of the original recording (obviously) but to see these four great artists at work is awesome, many thanks for posting
But in the context that the original recording was just Waterfall reversed with a few overdubs it's fucking extraordinary that they learned to play it live like this...
My favorite part of the Madison Square Garden gig! Waterfall/Don't Stop blew my world away!!
Best 5 minutes of music I’ve heard
Tune - perfect blend of musical talent - Reni is a top top drummer and his vocals harmonise so good with Ian Brown....timeless music
+Stuart Gill
Agreed 100%
Timeless
+Stuart Gill
Agreed 100%
Timeless
I'm watching this with a very big smile in my face, fancying how wonderful this is
Absolutely beautiful. Backing vocals just pierce your soul.
Reni is a genius and John Squire is a the coolest guitar maestro ever the strum a string. Love these guys so, so much.
The sound of Ian and Reni's voices together is pure magic 😍
So beautiful there's barely a word. Stone Roses = Muscial Magic
Years on... still shining so brightly. Time doesn't darken beauty and genius.
what a gem .
THEY MUST DO MORE SONGS LIKE THIS!!!!!! PLEASE!!!!!!! Why don't they...??? Don't stop STONE Roses!!!! Where are you guys?
Mind blowing , as good as ever , can't wait to hear their new stuff , hopefully old material from made of stone days reworked...
Look how much they absolutely love playing this. Such an incidental tune on the LP when it came out. My fave tune live every time i saw them on the comeback tours/s.
This will always be one of my Top Ten Roses songs
This was a perfect at The Etihad. A psychedelic masterpiece.
Pure class, that's music.
Listen to this years ago just rediscovered it again gives me shivers every time, these 4 in a room is something special
I love a man I've never met. Reni is the coolest man in the planet. I could eat his beats. The soul of The Roses.
what can you say about this band that hasnt been said before.......... THAT IS HOW YOU DO THINGS!!
:)
This is so damn sweet, thank you for making this gem available!!
Sublime performance
My favorite band of all time IDOLS to me
Mine too.
This band has arguably three of the best musicians that happened to come together.
This song proves it.
Squires first few chords of playing reverse chords is genius.
Mani's melodic bass drives the song through.
Reni's drumming , its hard to put into words how good this man sounds, i would need 4 arms and 4 legs to try and replicate what this man can do , he is probably the greatest drummer of all time imo.
Individually some of the greatest musicians of their generation, together often flawed and often the making of their own downfall , but its often genius and group fragility that creates the greatest sounds , like The Smiths , its almost like the music is that good it cant sustain itself , it has to come to a crescendo to end.
I miss the days of the stone roses , when life was uncomplicated and people had fun and no one cared or only did things for likes on the internet.