It's funny how guys will cheer for this video about how men were never meant to be selective but then condemn women for NOT choosing ELs (who are NOT dominant males).
UHeardMe1stTime when you point out that they're not being choose because they are not dominant aka "lame" .. they just change the subject.. because "it's not about that" .. but it's okay for them not to choose you because you're a "5"
We all agree and know the El rebuttal is superficial alone on the woman's side as a choice produces the current environment we see in the black community
UHeardMe1stTime Beauty isn't superficial. Good looks determine good genes. Good genes determine greater chances of survival. Like you said, it's biological. Plus, there is symmetry in beauty, and symmetry is about balance. The universe constantly struggles to achieve balance or equilibrium. Our admiring beauty is bigger than us.
Shame use to exist in the black community. Shot gun weddings were a thing. I dont know why so many black women in the comment section are against this message. Im a woman and I agree. Just because you think men "should" be responsible doesnt mean that they will. So you have to look out for yourself. Also the only thing a man is obligated to do is pay child support. Thats it. So if he wants to cut a check and not deal with you or the children, then he can do that too. Marriage use to exist as protection for the woman. But many sex positive feminist had a problem with marriage and conservative sexual values.
I've had this same conversation with my female relatives who complain about the men they date and got pregnant by. You choose the loser then deal with it. These chicks cry and play the victim role once her "keep a nigga with a baby" plan didn't work.
Majority responsibility falls on the woman because she controls who entered and impregnated her. There are only 3 situations to me where a woman doesn't take majority responsibility: 1. Children conceived in marriage 2. A man agrees to conceive and raise a child with a woman who he is not married to then dips out. 3. When a child is conceived by rape Black men and women need to stop making permanent decisions with temporary people that we know are not good for us.
The only point, I agree with you on is that men should be able to opt out of paying for child support for kids that aren't biologically his, especially in a marriage. I never got that part of the law and I would be livid, if that shit happened to any guy I cared about. As for a man opting out of raising a child that he helped to create...eh no.
Pssssh! Ya'll act like women who get abortions are the ones tying your sorry behinds down with kids. You should be praising those women for not trapping men with unwanted kids. However, since you want to be a bitter tom than sure, only if, it is mandatory that the women receive monetary support.
Beware of condemning women's reproductive choices as a childless woman who seeks to change that status but is running out of time. The same men who agree with you now can afford to shame you but where will they be when the dream is over? Perhaps singing another tune with kids of their own while you, still childless have nothing but cold, lonely ideals. Then what? Just something to consider.
Southern Gothic women can have children at advanced ages now with reproductive technology and/or donor eggs. And not all women care about having biological kids so they have no problem with adoption or not having kids. Women need to stop having this idea they should breed with the riffraff so we won't be lonely. Every child we have should be planned and have a plan for how it will be raised and taken care. Otherwise get a pet and/or a hobby not a baby.
Time is not running out for me any time soon. I have at LEAST another 15 years to give birth to children. My beliefs on this topic doesn't change my own personal situation.
Many of these men who are praising her have children out of wedlock and the black women cosigning this nonsense are desperate for black male approval. it's ridiculous!
Why Knot_Now? truth is most black parents today have OOW kids because the Black marriage rate is the lowest in america and probably the world. I dont think she means black women get themselves pregnant its more like the burden of having/raising kids is going to fall on the woman. Currently in the black community there really isn't an upside for women having kids other than an inate desire to procreate. Neither the mother or child's life will see an improvement. As far as men cosigning the message of course they will because having sex with no consequences for them is their ultimate life goal. But that shouldn't be a reason to not have an honest conversation. Black women have got to be ultra careful who they sleep with because the majority of men dont have their best interest at heart.
Why do you think a man should have the option to escape the responsibility for a child he conceived? That is not the equivalent to a woman choosing to have an abortion.... The difference is, if a man opts out, there's a fatherless child out there somewhere. If a woman opts out, there IS no fatherless child, because it doesn't exist. Children deserve to have both parents, and it's better for tax payers. Now, if anyone wants to rant at me about how a fatherless child is not as bad as a dead one, be my guest, I'm not interested.
I'm not attacking you I'm simply pointing out the obvious. I am sure you are aware that this video topic would get approval from all the deadbeat dads and black men looking to trick some more young women into carrying their seed once they run off into the sunset.
And certain videos I make such as the EL series got applause from the women. What's your point? Are you suggesting I don't really believe what I said in this video and that I'm just saying it to get attention from men? If that were the case, I would make videos fussing as women for not wanting ELs. It's in YOUR best interest to be careful with your body and reproduction. YOU will have to suffer the consequences.
I was just having this convo with a few female coworkers yesterday. that men should be able to opt out of parenthood with no repercussions just women can. and of course i got the programmed response...."well if you don't want the possibility of becoming a parent then don't have sex"
Absolutely. Just get a vasectomy regardless of what she tells you. She tells you that she's on the pill, you wrap up anyway. She tells you that she can't have children. You wrap up anyway. And if you hate wearing condoms and don't want to chance having children, get a vasectomy.Hell, all this talk about children, what about STD's? No one in the black community cares about their own bodies anymore. They just want to dictate to others what to do with THEIRS!
Why Knot_Now? Vasectomy is considered permanent. A reversal is not a given. Condoms break. Male birth control pills should be available between 2018 and 2020. Lol men will. be popping them shits like its Mike&Ike candy.
Why Knot_Now? As of right now men have three options. Abstinence, vasectomy and again assume its permanent and condoms. Unfortunately condoms break. All I'm saying as a man I would love to have more options. I can't tell you how helpless I felt when I realize my condom broke and I might be a daddy when I wasn't financially ready. As of right now, abstinence is the best option for me. A condom with male birth control pills is the second best option.
I'm jealous of women reproductive rights in America. A woman have opitions once she gets pregnant. She can get an abortion, give the child up for adoption and she has safe haven laws. I personally can't wait for male birth control pills to hit the market. Watch the out of wedlock birth rate go down significantly.
InfiniteWisdom "Why not just use condoms" I do, but I wanted you to know the vast majority might not break but condoms do break. The best option is abstinence. And yes, I still want the option of wonder pills.
Good video but a man should NOT be able to opt out of paying for his child - it IS the women's responsibility that the child is here but the man has to step up once it is. #NoWweddingNoWomb.
The biggest reason... mama's baby, daddy's maybe. Also, with the number of birth control options and the ability to opt out of parenthood, women should have greater responsibility in reproductive capacity.
Women only have 1 or two more birth control option than men. Abortion and hormones. The pill, the shot, IUD and implants are just different ways of administering hormones. A diaphragm / cervical cap is the same concept as a condom, a physical barrier. Men have one option women don't have and that's having sex with women who are past childbearing years. Some of them still look very good like Stacy Dash, Angela Basset, Robin Wright, etc.
It's funny how guys will cheer for this video about how men were never meant to be selective but then condemn women for NOT choosing ELs (who are NOT dominant males).
UHeardMe1stTime when you point out that they're not being choose because they are not dominant aka "lame" .. they just change the subject.. because "it's not about that" .. but it's okay for them not to choose you because you're a "5"
I think most ELs argument in what black women deem as dominant in their choice boils down to superficial qualities
Men choose women based on beauty which is just as superficial so it's a wash.
We all agree and know the El rebuttal is superficial alone on the woman's side as a choice produces the current environment we see in the black community
UHeardMe1stTime Beauty isn't superficial. Good looks determine good genes. Good genes determine greater chances of survival. Like you said, it's biological. Plus, there is symmetry in beauty, and symmetry is about balance. The universe constantly struggles to achieve balance or equilibrium. Our admiring beauty is bigger than us.
A woman must choose wisely. She must also be patient.
Shame use to exist in the black community. Shot gun weddings were a thing. I dont know why so many black women in the comment section are against this message. Im a woman and I agree. Just because you think men "should" be responsible doesnt mean that they will. So you have to look out for yourself. Also the only thing a man is obligated to do is pay child support. Thats it. So if he wants to cut a check and not deal with you or the children, then he can do that too.
Marriage use to exist as protection for the woman. But many sex positive feminist had a problem with marriage and conservative sexual values.
You're commentary is sensible.You absolutely know how to dissect and logically address issues.
I've had this same conversation with my female relatives who complain about the men they date and got pregnant by. You choose the loser then deal with it. These chicks cry and play the victim role once her "keep a nigga with a baby" plan didn't work.
Cali Gurl Lmao
Miss Klassy ....than leave us the HE'LL alone !!!!!!!
Bitter Barbara; the game caught up with her...
Lol I told you this would be a shit storm
Majority responsibility falls on the woman because she controls who entered and impregnated her. There are only 3 situations to me where a woman doesn't take majority responsibility:
1. Children conceived in marriage
2. A man agrees to conceive and raise a child with a woman who he is not married to then dips out.
3. When a child is conceived by rape
Black men and women need to stop making permanent decisions with temporary people that we know are not good for us.
The only point, I agree with you on is that men should be able to opt out of paying for child support for kids that aren't biologically his, especially in a marriage. I never got that part of the law and I would be livid, if that shit happened to any guy I cared about. As for a man opting out of raising a child that he helped to create...eh no.
Exactly! Like what the hell.
Pssssh! Ya'll act like women who get abortions are the ones tying your sorry behinds down with kids. You should be praising those women for not trapping men with unwanted kids. However, since you want to be a bitter tom than sure, only if, it is mandatory that the women receive monetary support.
because the laws are absolutely designed to be fucked up like that. There is nothing to get. But women for the most part keep quiet about that shit.
Beware of condemning women's reproductive choices as a childless woman who seeks to change that status but is running out of time. The same men who agree with you now can afford to shame you but where will they be when the dream is over? Perhaps singing another tune with kids of their own while you, still childless have nothing but cold, lonely ideals. Then what? Just something to consider.
Southern Gothic women can have children at advanced ages now with reproductive technology and/or donor eggs. And not all women care about having biological kids so they have no problem with adoption or not having kids.
Women need to stop having this idea they should breed with the riffraff so we won't be lonely. Every child we have should be planned and have a plan for how it will be raised and taken care. Otherwise get a pet and/or a hobby not a baby.
Time is not running out for me any time soon. I have at LEAST another 15 years to give birth to children. My beliefs on this topic doesn't change my own personal situation.
Many of these men who are praising her have children out of wedlock and the black women cosigning this nonsense are desperate for black male approval. it's ridiculous!
Why Knot_Now? truth is most black parents today have OOW kids because the Black marriage rate is the lowest in america and probably the world. I dont think she means black women get themselves pregnant its more like the burden of having/raising kids is going to fall on the woman. Currently in the black community there really isn't an upside for women having kids other than an inate desire to procreate. Neither the mother or child's life will see an improvement. As far as men cosigning the message of course they will because having sex with no consequences for them is their ultimate life goal. But that shouldn't be a reason to not have an honest conversation. Black women have got to be ultra careful who they sleep with because the majority of men dont have their best interest at heart.
Good reminder, I hope she takes heed before it's too late.
Why do you think a man should have the option to escape the responsibility for a child he conceived? That is not the equivalent to a woman choosing to have an abortion.... The difference is, if a man opts out, there's a fatherless child out there somewhere. If a woman opts out, there IS no fatherless child, because it doesn't exist. Children deserve to have both parents, and it's better for tax payers. Now, if anyone wants to rant at me about how a fatherless child is not as bad as a dead one, be my guest, I'm not interested.
I wholeheartedly agree!
A Mcintosh Because you cant force parenthood on noone. The moment a man tells you he doesnt want a child, be prepared to be a single parent.
I agree ... I never agree with child support.. way to trap men in a miserable existence.. but then again I don't agree with laws period ...
You are just dying to be in the boys club. LOLLLL
Refute what I said and stop attacking me.
I'm not attacking you I'm simply pointing out the obvious. I am sure you are aware that this video topic would get approval from all the deadbeat dads and black men looking to trick some more young women into carrying their seed once they run off into the sunset.
*THERE IS NO MAGIC PILL TO MAKE A MEN STAY* It's his own morals and integrity
And certain videos I make such as the EL series got applause from the women. What's your point? Are you suggesting I don't really believe what I said in this video and that I'm just saying it to get attention from men? If that were the case, I would make videos fussing as women for not wanting ELs.
It's in YOUR best interest to be careful with your body and reproduction. YOU will have to suffer the consequences.
If you've ever been scammed or sold some bad goods , tell me why you didn't choose a shop that wouldn't scam you?
thank you for this video.
I was just having this convo with a few female coworkers yesterday. that men should be able to opt out of parenthood with no repercussions just women can. and of course i got the programmed response...."well if you don't want the possibility of becoming a parent then don't have sex"
Absolutely. Just get a vasectomy regardless of what she tells you. She tells you that she's on the pill, you wrap up anyway. She tells you that she can't have children. You wrap up anyway. And if you hate wearing condoms and don't want to chance having children, get a vasectomy.Hell, all this talk about children, what about STD's? No one in the black community cares about their own bodies anymore. They just want to dictate to others what to do with THEIRS!
Why Knot_Now? Vasectomy is considered permanent. A reversal is not a given. Condoms break. Male birth control pills should be available between 2018 and 2020. Lol men will. be popping them shits like its Mike&Ike candy.
Me, too.
Why Knot_Now? As of right now men have three options. Abstinence, vasectomy and again assume its permanent and condoms. Unfortunately condoms break. All I'm saying as a man I would love to have more options. I can't tell you how helpless I felt when I realize my condom broke and I might be a daddy when I wasn't financially ready. As of right now, abstinence is the best option for me. A condom with male birth control pills is the second best option.
Cruzan26 No prospects for marriage, then?
Truth
wow. deep. so insightful
Great VIDEO!!!
I'm jealous of women reproductive rights in America. A woman have opitions once she gets pregnant. She can get an abortion, give the child up for adoption and she has safe haven laws. I personally can't wait for male birth control pills to hit the market. Watch the out of wedlock birth rate go down significantly.
Cruzan26 It'll just go done for upper echelon men. Guys who have nothing to lose still won't care.
I would love that but, I agree with UheardMe1sttime. Primitive males would still use their dicks to impregnant females because that is what they do~
InfiniteWisdom Why do people ignore that condoms break? Yes even when use correctly. Or can you suggest an unbreakable brand for me.
InfiniteWisdom "Why not just use condoms" I do, but I wanted you to know the vast majority might not break but condoms do break. The best option is abstinence. And yes, I still want the option of wonder pills.
thorough!
Good video but a man should NOT be able to opt out of paying for his child - it IS the women's responsibility that the child is here but the man has to step up once it is. #NoWweddingNoWomb.
on point
The biggest reason... mama's baby, daddy's maybe. Also, with the number of birth control options and the ability to opt out of parenthood, women should have greater responsibility in reproductive capacity.
Women only have 1 or two more birth control option than men. Abortion and hormones. The pill, the shot, IUD and implants are just different ways of administering hormones. A diaphragm / cervical cap is the same concept as a condom, a physical barrier. Men have one option women don't have and that's having sex with women who are past childbearing years. Some of them still look very good like Stacy Dash, Angela Basset, Robin Wright, etc.
UHeardMe1stTime So my options are abstinence, condoms that may break and sleeping with mature women old enough to be my mother? 😒 I choose A. Lol
UHeardMe1stTime And women over 50 that look like Stacey Dash and Angela Basset is as rare as a black Unicorn.
Cruzan26 You know, exceptions always disprove the rule to black women... lol. For every Stacey Dash, there are 20 Loretta Devines.
Only 20?