What New VMI 'Rats' Go Through During Hell Week | Boot Camp | Business Insider
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- We got an inside look at what it's like during the first week for new freshmen, known as "rats," at the Virginia Military Institute in Lexington, Virginia. "Hell week" marks the beginning of the rats' journey to becoming full-fledged cadets at VMI, the oldest public senior military college in the US, which has been at the center of controversy for decades because of allegations of sexism and racism and its historical ties to the Confederacy.
VMI is now led by Cedric T. Wins, the first Black superintendent in the school's 182-year history. During the past year, VMI has removed on-post tributes to the Confederacy, including statues and quotes.
Hell week begins with matriculation day, the first step of a challenging six-month program that builds up to "breakout," when the rats become cadets. After saying goodbye to their families, the new rats encounter an intense indoctrination from the cadre, a group of upperclassmen tasked with leading the new class during matriculation. Hell week concludes with an event known as "The Crucible," which presents the rats with a series of mental and physical challenges.
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Imagine paying 60,000 dollars to be yelled at 🤣
Exactly, why not get paid for being yelled at and get free college?
Discipline and strength your mentor
Don’t kink shame
@@mattrenner3744 lmaoooooo
@@Dingle_Official Just go to army/usmc/air force basic training duh
I respect the dude who said he wouldn’t be able to do college without some discipline
A level of honesty more young adults going to college should have. If so they’d get more out of college than crippling debt.
@Anung Un Rama it’s a learning process. If he gets that discipline then that won’t happen.
Tbh i think they are more disciplied then my classmates in school
I was him in 1989, I still am but I did many years in the Marines. I'm older and slower.
Now that’s a man who’s self-aware. ✊
I lost it laughing when the one guy told him to tuck his shirt in, and he just politely said "Oh you're talking to me." and he just straight yelled back at him
"DONT TALK BACK TO ME" 😂😂
A college kid yelling “don’t talk back to me!!” Lmaoooo
3:40 " stop laughing you're mine now, you're mine now"
Sweet
Lol ROTC+ 😂 Imagine explaining this during the holidays. “So you’re in the military?” “No… I just like getting called a dirty little rat”
@Miles Doyle Enjoy wasting your life believing in something as historical as harry potter.
@@DressInStile
Watch as Revelation 13:6 is unfolding right now.
@@DressInStile chill out bud
@Miles Doyle whoa u unfolded lol
@Miles Doyle lol
I'm not a female cadet I'm a cadet
Business insider:female cadets...
🤣🤣🤣 in the most dramatic voice ever
🤣🤣🤣
She's a female cadet though, idk why she's trippin, there’s a physical distinguishing between male and female cadets.
Ur pfp makes this even funnier lmfao
@@thecapatalistpropagator_9470 she’s resentful
My uncle went there 50 years ago and said something about a tradition involving the stairs. It sounded like when you were a rat you had to simply get down several flights of stairs while the upperclassmen lined up on either side and literally beat the snot out of you until you made it to the bottom. He said he broke his wrist on his way down.
That’s abuse.😥
That was stopped many years ago.
They don’t do that anymore they had to soften it up
Can you ask him if he knows how the bars got put up on on the dorm rooms? My Grandfather went there 70 years ago and claims he is to blame. But then again he embellishes his stories
@@rainbowgirlism not really
Rat: "Oh you talkin to me?"
**pause**
Instructor: "Wha-....Don't talk back to me!"
i found it funny...
I would burst out laughing. It's like a bunch of your highschool friends yelling at you😂🤣
I can’t take this shit seriously bruh, I can’t be in this college. If you’re gonna yell at me you better have years of experience, hardened veteran and i better be getting paid for it, not the other way around. I would be kicked out here the first day if i see a teenage looking wannabe yell at me.
@@kevinc.cucumber3697 Trust me, we have a lot of guys like you who show and have your same attitude. And you are absolutely right, most of them ARE kicked out in the first week
@@quinnhart8438 What you do in the United States is just idiotic and completely meaningless and does not create better soldiers but on the contrary worse soldiers.
@@ingvartorma9789 they’re not really training soldiers it’s more of a fraternity type thing. Not my cup of tea
@@ingvartorma9789 That's quite the claim sir. You're going to have to present some damn good evidence to overcome the fact that every war we have engaged in as a volunteer force we have won. Against enemies that fought harder, were trained better, were more fanatic, and/or had better equipment.
Till then, your statement makes me sad that whatever information you drew that opinion from is false.
I would hate that. Listening to people who aren’t even in the army smoke you.
Lol fr
It's honestly just a test of how humble you are, the way I see it.
@@tylercampbell1186 Fraternities also say that, so I tend to associate this behavior with groups that have higher concentrations of people who aren't particularly inquisitive or bright.
@@Kitajima2 you can be more intelligent and have more common sense than the people who are "more powerful" around you. I have an IQ average of 150-160 and I've scored above 170 on a free test, and I've noticed that people can see in my eyes that I can see right through any BS they have going on or want to throw at me and I've also noticed that they don't like it. Only moral people with a backbone are attracted to me at all, the rest will avoid me and slander my name among other things behind my back.
Most people are pathetic excuses of a human being and lack many of the qualities that make someone an actual good person, so it makes sense how self important inconsiderate people will treat someone who they already know will risk their own life to save others and already has, all out of envy because most people only understand "stuff ad much pleasure down your necks as possible before death" and that is how they live. For themselves instead of for themselves AND others.
I've also noticed the less intelligent people are, the more selfish they are and the more inconsiderate they are and only treat others nicely when it is for their own gain, or when they think someone is watching their behaviors.
In conclusion, I've noticed a LOT of people are utter trash.
@@tylercampbell1186 Do you just copy and paste that on different posts to show how smart you are? 🍆
I would never be able to handle the brother rat thing lmao, I would burst out laughing every time. I'm sure they must have some other worldly inside jokes
I don’t know why but for some reason seeing the cadre getting in the cadets faces and yelling at them was funny to me 😅😂
Or the straining thing
Best alarm clock ever...hands down!!! Nothing like having your door kicked in at 0400 just to hear the boom of an M-60 going off when you're half asleep. It was so dark, all you can see was the muzzle flash in the dark.
Had my parents woken my butt up like that in high school, I'd be on the next Greyhound bus out of town to work for Peace Corps or Green Peace. I had a friend doing morning PT pushups. The cadre instructors were situated a top of a table/desk in the VERY HEAVY fog of the Shenandoah's. My friend figured that if HE can't see them, then, THEY can't see him. So, my buddy just decided to lay unmoving in the thick of the fog (he was also a philosophy major). Big mistake! They scheduled him for the next available RDC "appointment". And, lo and behold, after his RDC "interview", he walks right into a sweat party. Man, must be better than a "Planet Fitness" membership. LMFAO!!!!
Bring on the breakout memories. Still finding mud in places I didn't know I had.
Imagine going here and paying $60k when you can join the real military instead and they’ll pay for all your schooling 🤣
Hahahahahaha
That's actually what they're doing lol, they're attending the college while in their respective branch and their college is paid for by the military for the most part
@@Lewis-ec5sn 50% of them don't plan on going into the military, how do you explain the other half
i think this is where the military academy rejects go to be "military".
@@Lewis-ec5sn you are mistaken. Military colleges like West Point and this are schools that will help you achieve a higher rank before even joining the military. This school does not require you to join the military after graduation unlike the other military schools. There are times where a current member of the military would go to a college but no to a military school. Because it’s pretty much a severe demotion. You don’t go through basic become a member then go to a military school to become a cadet.
A guy that went here studied at my uni for a semester, At times I thought he was exaggerating his stories but no, I was wrong. Goddamn.
I went to uni at the Australian National University for a semester and literally nobody believed my stories.
It’s the military lmao what do you expect?
@@michaelJpurp I go to a military college now, and the stories I hear from alumni, or even cadets from a few years back are shocking to say the least.
@@alexandervolkov5205 protip: we always say it was harder in the past than it is now ;)
@@michaelJpurp Except for entire US military schools, this is really the truth, realise that inclusion of female students made these institutions go soft and eased their physical criteria in many aspects, when people now say this schools have become soft it's because they have really really become soft
3:48 "You're mine now! Seven months of hell, baby!" Imagine if they get together and she repeats this line to him.
5:35: Rat:"Oh you're talking to me?"
Instructor: *stalls* "wha... don't talk back to me!"
You could hear that instructor's brain just self destruct
Having seniors yell and haze them is like having a 3rd phase recruit haze a 1st phase recruit.
Which is exactly what happens.
@@ottovonbismarck7646 huh??
@@MasterBuilder15 ever been through MCRD or Paris island? I went through MCRD, and when we came back from Pendleton, we hazed the shit out of the recruits who just got there.
@@ottovonbismarck7646 probably a parris island thing cuz that's never happened in San Diego 😂😂
@@chiefie7353 I've literally gone through MCRD in San Diego. It happens
"Welcome to the gulag, if you get out you earn your freedom."
Lol 😂 true
They can quit and walk away at anytime if they want to.
VMI: Pay to get hazed
Enlisted: Get paid to be hazed
I can't believe yall made a documentary of my Alma Mater. I suggested yall do it since you were making short videos about west point, naval academy, etc. Love to see VMI!
Back in Marine Corps OCS we had a VMI graduate in my platoon. As a former enlisted Marine myself, and in a platoon that included other top performing enlisted Marines, this VMI graduate was an extreme hard charger, mentally tough, physically tough, and always motivated to do the hardest jobs no matter the time of day or the exhausting schedule. Now he is a Marine Corps infantry officer and is leading his Marines with discipline and motivation.
Looking at this video, I now understand a little of how he became such a hard charger. Respect to VMI cadets, VMI graduates, and their parents. Semper Fi.
Respect for saying it like it is
As a far left wing lib, I want to thank you and everyone else who volunteers to serve the country. It's a god damn lie to say we don't support out troops or appreciate the sacrifices they make to protect us and other innocents around the world.
Anyone who sees what's happening in Ukraine right now, and isn't grateful for the millions of people who have made us the most competent military in the world is likely a moron and doesn't deserve any time or thought.
Again, thank you, so much, for what you've done to protect me and my family.
@Russ Ingram lmao for real I be embarrassed to even admit they are a far left liberal lol. Considering take advantage of the success our military has given us.
@@sfurules lol funny how u talk about ukraine meanwhile you liberals are walking us in straight path of ukraine laying down our guns and creating a weak military. Ukraine would never happened if weren't for your vote funny how putin waited til Biden swore in office to invade when he could did it years earlier
Roger that I was in army 8 yrs and my honest opinion every 18 yr old should have to serve. Too many weak privileged liberal college kids taking advantage of our military success in past with freedom. There's no way 18 yr Olds these days can even compare to 18 yr Olds back in the 1900s. Freedom has to be maintained. These ppl think freedom will last without maintaining it with their woke way of life smh.
A good friend and brother of mine was killed by a drunk driver the day before he was due to return to VMI for his second year in 2008 and be a part of the cadre for Hell Week. RIP Robert Knight c/o 2011.
Really sad to hear, I hope you're doing better
R.I.P.
Rest in peace Robert Knight
5:36 that was hilarious 😅😅... The "rat" could literally slap the shit out of the dude giving orders to him
😂😂😂
I feel like some people forget that loud does not mean effective or intimidating. I would be laughing so hard if someone screamed something random in my face in a monster voice. Also seems like an easy way to loose your voice and not being able to scream the next day.
As a cadet at VMI, yes there are many moments that you laugh at just because they are stupid or funny, and yes you do tend to loose your voice but you practice enough where you yell alot and its no problem. Yelling is intimidating but after a few months you get over it all and just want it to be over with.
Can confirm, that monster voice is bc they’ve already lost their voice from yelling normally. They don’t sound like that on matriculation day.
Doubt, I heard this so many times before boot camp at meps. Literally everyone pussied out the instant they saw a D.I 😂big talk for someone on the internet.
The scene of the rats inside with everyone else around them screaming had me cracking up
@osu67 Exactly. Always the ones with the most talk.
Having both been marine corps infantry, and now working at a college, I can't imagine being yelled at by college kids...zero intimidation here.
I say the same after going thru marine corp boot camp lol
I went VMI and Paris Island. VMI was mentally harder ×3.
@@rozsahegyi67 I wouldn't argue that it is challenging, I just have no interest in being "lead" by teenagers with no real military experience.
@@rozsahegyi67 You have Hungarian roots. My son goes to VMI and it is brutal
There's these two Staff Sergeants that are at VMI right now and they say it's the worst experience they've had in the Army because of how stupid it is.
Rats are actually the most destructive,pervasive and fast reproducing animals out there. They are very intelligent as well especially when it comes to traps, and can chew threw everything. Actually a compliment!
how is destroying everything n overbreeding a good thing
@greedog47 God-tier comment right here
@@Arcticninja123 you might as well have described humans as this point
I work there and these cadets/ young men and woman are the most respectful ppl I've ever met!!
Wait, I thought this was a legit military academy lmao? Why would I pay 60k just to get yelled by civilians instead of joining the real military and have them pay for my college? 😂
If you sign the contract to commit to serving then your tuition would be paid for, just like someone who obtains an ROTC scholarship or someone who enlists then goes to college. But, if they don’t sign the contract to serve, the military will not cover any expenses.
@@roxiereign that sounds nice actually college paid for
These kids also come out of college with connections you can’t get anywhere else. 4 years of this bs for a great job that’ll make the rest of your life easier
Getting VMI paid for and a commission is a much better life option than enlisting and using the GI bill for a lot of people. This video makes it seem cringe but there sure is a lot of personal development over four years that a civilian school won’t give
@@youngtuck3605 I along with other people would choose Texas A&M or Virginia Tech over VMI and those two provide the same connections and aren't as cringe as VMI.
At first I thought this was pretty ridiculous, you pay all this money to be screamed at for 7 months but after watching this and thinking of my own military experience I thought you know this isn't that bad. For a lot of them they're just kids and feeling lack of discipline and direction and this does a good job of instilling them lessons they can utilize upon graduation, and I like that serving isn't forced upon their graduation, it continues to be a choice. I hope that if you do go through with this you decide to join but I like that it is an option. I like these type of videos :)
Pretty sure if they go into the military afterward then u don’t have to pay for college
@@YHWHsam Oh really? That's awesome! That would make sense :)
@@YHWHsam Not everyone has to go in.
@@piplup10203854 when you dcco into the branches student debt is taken care of to a certain degree
@@piplup10203854 nice name bro 👌
I wonder if there's any actual data demonstrating that this kind of theatrics are conducive to better soldiers.
As someone who is serving, the honor code is what we called the RTC Maxim back in bootcamp
"I will not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate any of those among us who do"
Hooyah
AMOGUS
Imagine being yelled at by a future POG 😂
Right lmao
Thats every basic training
@@kohlhammer4465 not Infantry OSUT 😂
@@sem6045 People Other-than Grunts . Basically everyone that isn’t Infantry .
@@awesomedude1864 True
I work in the mailroom, and we've had alumni parents buy literal boxes of bricks just so their rats have to strain up 5 flights of stairs with them, and likely the most convoluted ways through barracks if an upper classman sees them
They really do put their kids through it 😂
This gentleman above is viewed as a piece of that Corps for 50 years. He gave his entire life to having a good Corps there. Salutes up to you, Mr Bill. You made the Corps what it was for ALL of your years!
Weirdos
Imagine being screamed at by someone at a military school by someone who possibly may not even serve in the military…
I have great respect for both the African American cadet’s very pragmatic take on potential racism and the cadet self aware enough to realize he needed strict discipline.
The potential racism doesn't really happen from the cadre I'll be honest.
Most of them get in on affirmative action and get kicked out. Go figure.
The thumbnail is a meme material 🤣
So are the first 7 seconds.
Damn Y E S
It's already done
@@xibalbatli1668 where
@@oksowhat Cadets have made some memes and shared them with each other. It's a solid template.
Went through marines, air force,army, and now this? Bruh at this point cameraman gotta be a SEAL or sum cause damn
FR WE NEED SEALS
@@myron_320 Yes, and Marines, Airborne/paratroopers, regular Infantry, SF & most certainly our beloved Rangers
It’s basically full time ROTC, like any other college/university rotc program, their tuition will be fully reimbursed if they commit to serve a five year active duty military contract upon graduation. The option to pay full tuition and decline military service upon graduation is what separates VMI from the other service academies.
I don’t understand this:
1. You pay $60k a year to attend;
2. It’s not a prestigious service academy like West Point or the Naval Academy. In fact, is admissions stats are pathetic;
3. You lose the entire college experience for nothing.
Why not attend a real university and just do ROTC? Or go to OCS after graduating college? If you can’t get into West Point, this seems like the worst of all worlds. At least do Virginia Tech or Texas A&M over this shit. Same goes for the Citadel, Norwich, North Georgia, etc.
It’s so butter bars can compare it to BCT/OSUT or boot camp. I wouldn’t be able to take this shit seriously at all
About point 3, VMI offers a much better experience for forming a person than the sex, drug laden institutions of higher Cultural Marxism indoctrination. If I had to go back to being 18 in this world, I would choose VMI over the "regular college experience."
A little detail people might miss:
None of the rats are wearing watches or any time telling device but all the cadre are. This is very much intentional and deeply affected my hell week experience. Days felt like weeks since you could never tell what time it was as a rat. The rooms didn’t have clocks either, you were woken up by cadre.
VMI is an otherworldly place, God bless it.
An interesting choice. Certainly a different emphasis than the culture of personal accountability and responsibility above all else that I saw in ROTC.
Vegas is like that too lol
No windows or doors either
@@jamesharding3459 Virginia tech was the same during new cadet week. They confiscated everything with the time including our alarm clocks
You’re obviously an alum as am I, it was the greatest and worst place to be
They did that same to us during FROG Week at the University of north Georgia for the Corps of Cadets , no way to tell time for a week
They welcome you being nice and friendly and then they degrade you... It's giving psychopath
Thats just the military lol. Lure you in with all the benefits then turn you into property. Then when your close to getting out they gaslight you into staying in. Couldnt be me bruh.
Honestly, this is a great experience 🤝👏🏽
You are perfect as a cadet. The years have proven the change in the recruits. I love seeing the best of the military and seeing equality being upheld. All for that! It seems a maze isn't too hard to find if everyone is together.
“But yet they chose this”🤣😂🤣😂 I can’t
It's a beautiful campus that tricks you
@@steffen_drei wait what
Is nobody gonna mention how perfect the thumbnail is for a NNN meme?
Edit: I don't know when the thumbnail was changed but it used to be perfect 😔
Lol 😂
we miss it too, the kid is iconic here
Compared to USMC, this is like getting screamed at by TikTok and Instagram.
I genuinely respect the guy that just when "are you talking to me?" LOL
My mom is the woman at 6:52. She was in the second graduating class of women at VMI
Damn
Wow
That's awesome your mom is badass
Imagine paying to go to school and getting yelled at by other students...willingly...and not go to the military.
A large number who don’t commission can’t get medically qualified or get injured etc. they don’t touch enough on how tied to the military the school is
Shit, I'd do that for free, just to teach these little "politically correct" kids a thing or two about become "leather-skinned". And I promise you, I'd use every threatening phrase, cursing in unique ways, death threats, and all sorts of hyperbole to scare them into submission. They'd come out "leather-skinned", alright...
@@bunnehboi1985 BOOT
@@bunnehboi1985 ofcourse you would. You probably think its easy right. 12 year old.
This just made me laugh more than anything. Half of these people looked like it took everything in them to yell like that, that one guy looked like he was going to faint 😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣.... what guy please
Bein in the army, I find this comical seeing how big and tough the upperclassmen act just to go into the military as clueless butterbar that gets looked at as essentially a dumb private when they actually join
these would be worse than butterbars from the academy. These idiots wouldn't understand shit but would think they can boss around their NCO's and get away with it.
@@mysterymayhem7020 If you think these guys are bad I can't imagine how you'd react to Citadel Cadets lmao.
@Bill I am a combat veteran who has served and am retired. I'll take my honor and service over a bunch of rich kids who think they are better than our military by going to that school.
@Bill and for those that did I salute them and their sacrifice, but for the thousands of other rich brats who decided they were to good for the military and ran to their cushy desk jobs, they can kiss my furry white ass. Military Academy grads serve their country no matter what. Not these private for profit "military" schools.
@Bill I think I'm just going to say that we both have differing opinions about Private Military Schools. I respect your opinion and I will leave the comments at that. Have a nice day.
Why would you pay 30k+ to be yelled at, abused, and called derogatory terms while dealing with the college experience?!
It's called discipline. Some need it more then others
@@selgaE2017 could have just done ROTC and gotten a full ride.
@@selgaE2017 You can be disciplined while attending normal college lmao
Because some people want to experience hardship. Way better than than just letting yourself be privileged imo
Shaw how are they brainwashed exactly? Meet a standard enlisted soldier and a VMI cadet and you will see a difference in discipline. Most contracted army cadets get school payed for at VMI, and leave with a commission. For a lot of people that’s certainly a better option.
Why the hell go through all of that and not even get a military commission?
Little over half get a commission, you gotta earn it, a lot of people just don’t end up hacking it or decide military isn’t for them.
@Techniiq what is alumni?
You can commission easily here than usual rotc colleges.
@Alexey Andre alumni are the ones that came before and graduated from that school.
We are exceptionally proud of my nephew who is in his second year at VMI. Strength both physically and spiritually is important in life. He had a good beginning, and I know he's getting the opportunity to build on this. Go VMI!
Ok
let me give one example of the VMI Network. One grad, after serving active duty, started her own business. She sold her clothing on line and in a brick and mortar store. The business really dropped off due to covid and the store had to close down. She posted on an alumni website about her difficulties and to please check out her on line ordering. The next week she got 250 orders. I didn't need the products so I mailed her some cash (not much). We stick together.
So does the KKK, and cults. it doesn't mean you're a good organization, it means you are a loyal one. And loyalty is not a good in and of itself.
What's her website
Meh that's any school. It's the political connections that really count, like when I'm getting impeached.
That is some of the most weird cultish stuff I have ever seen.
It’s not cultish it’s tradition. Come to Texas A&M University our corps has way different traditions and we have more than one hell week
I had to scroll way too far to find a comment like this! Batshit crazy
@@healthyeagle same thing
And people pay to go through this.
@@healthyeagle Doesn’t mean it’s not a cult lol
It's hilarious that they use the racist ralph northam as an ambassador and the guy who led the investigation into racism
Ah yes the hero for racism that puts on black face and a kkk suit
I can’t help but laugh imagining how much of a culture shock those cadet cadre would be in for in a more conventional ROTC program and how hilarious it would be if my program's upperclassmen tried to act like that.
I wouldn't be able to stop laughing.
“I’m not a female cadet I’m just a cadet” 2 seconds later “female cadets” 😂
Bro tell me that this doesn't give off mad cult vibes
It’s tradition and discipline
No it doesn’t
It is a cult
I sucked in school and couldn’t focus very well. In Basic Training I not only did well but I loved it and even got the best sleep in my life. That could have been my entire enlistment and I would have been happy. I didn’t have many problems in my 10yrs besides some test taking anxiety. I knew I would do well in a military academy as a teen. We just couldn’t afford it. Now I’m a disabled Vet with a few credits shy of a bachelors degree(all the credits earned where while I was still on active duty). I know a lot of people that could benefit from this sort of experience. Maybe if everyone had to go through it we all would be better to each other and have some sort of pride.
Bro, you literally got the real life 100% completion speed run.
The academies are free
@@deusvult6920 exactly this guys a liar
I cannot comprehend what would possess someone to pay for this with no intent to join the military. It’s like four years of military school but instead of them paying you, you pay them. Absolutely insane. I went to a Virginia college, but mine was fun.
I completely agree
It's a shame that these rats missed out on their crucible; the ending events were some of the most memorable and brutal. As an alumnus, I'd say that every moment of suck I endured built a lifetime of discipline and mental endurance. Good luck to all the new rats of 2022+3.
I’m thinking about going to VMI next year but I keep seeing comments about how it’s soft changed and DEI ruined it. Is it still worth it?
@@OBrienIsaCK Yeah, there will always be salty alumni complaining about changes in the corps. They complained that my class was too soft, and the said the same about my dyke's class, and so on, and so on. Don't ever let that stop you from seeking a challenge. VMI will always offer a life changing experience that will make you a better person in the end, and that's not dependent on the diversity of the corps or how many female cadets there are. It's dependent on if you want to embrace the challenge and learn from it. And if people say that it's been ruined because they have a POC female cadet in a leadership position, then they've missed the point of comraderie amongst brother rats and being a part of the corps.
@@OBrienIsaCK Yeah, there will always be salty alumni who complain about the corps of cadets being too soft. They said the same thing about my class, and the class before that, and the class before that, and so on infinitum. VMI will always offer a life changing experience, and it's solely dependent on your own attitude and how you embrace the challenge. It has nothing to do with the diversity of the corps of cadets, or new rules to keep students safe. It is still the most challenging method of earning a 4 year undergraduate degree outside of the service academies, so you'll be doing things other 18 year olds will never be able to relate to. You'll be giving up the comfort of a normal college, but gaining a life long respect for yourself and a comraderie with anyone who's ever walked the ratline. And if anyone says otherwise, they've either never been to VMI or they've tragically missed the point of being a Brother Rat.
@@NeptuneVA for sure I understand that, but I think DEI changes the idea of having on personality as brother rats, and I think that some traditions they’ve got rid of should come back such as the mud hill and a little bit of hazing. I think it brings the rats closer to together
@@OBrienIsaCK The ratline isn't dependent on climbing a mud hill, it's a whole year of slow suffering and balancing schoolwork. Those old corps traditions aren't coming back, but trust me, you're still going to have hardships that will build the comraderie with your BRs.
The small one: Your shirt untucked in the back. Fix it right now!! Right now!!
The big one: Ooh you talking to me?
The small one: ww-WHAT!!
LOL😂😂😂
"DoNt TaLk BaCk tO mE" lmaoo
Cadets yelling at/saluting other cadets is like a 1LT demanding a salute from a 2LT: cringe. All cadets are equal, that’s why all cadets wear the dot when they go spend time with big army. Get some NCOs in there to do the yelling instead.
yeah, atleast make them hold position of attention not whatever that is.
That's what I was going to say lol, this shit is so cringe. Why pay for a shittier boot camp when you can get it on the government dime?
This happens in all the military academies
Lol let a few pissed of drill sergeants loose in there lol
Cadets do not salute other cadets at VMI. Rats need to earn their place, simple as that. A well executed rat line always leads to a better corps in the future.
Let's put it this way, when I was part of the Old Corps (pre-1997), VMI was hell on earth. It actually made USMC OCS and TBS feel like elemenatary school. Good times, bad times and funny times. I remember a roomate who was so thirsty after a sweat party that he took a big gulp out of a plastic cup that was filled with spittle from Skoal and Copenhagen from 5 other guys. He thought it was Coca-Cola or Pepsi. Obviously, he puked immediately. Or another time when he came back from an RDC meeting. We were all like "what the hell, bro?" We all thought that that the RDC threw him into the pool. He was shivering like crazy. He responded, "No, that's my sweat man."
And I had another friend who came out of an RDC meeting just to walk into a sweat party. What luck!
We had another dude who couldn't sing the American National Anthem. When they finally realzied that he was Canadian, they made him sing the Canadian Anthem instead. We had a guy whose name was Michael Bolton. They made him serenade the Corps of Cadets with "How Can We be Lovers".
Good stuff Badass Bob. Keep them coming!
I remember when I was summoned to an RDC meeting and it was in the dungeon area of barracks. It was an intimate experience with the RDC while straining lol
It was 3 sweat parties on steroids from what I remember.
The screaming in the face 24/7 just seems unnecessary. Could still have a stressful environment and teach discipline without screaming nonsense straight in there face.
Oh definitely it just adds to the chaos. When you're there for awhile, the screaming just turns to noise. But like the screaming isn't 24/7, that's just for the cameras,
Female Cadet Cadre: you're mine now!
Me: yes ma'am *smiles creepily*
What in the Kentucky Fried F did I just read
You good bro?
😝
The guy didn’t even know he was talking to him. That guy is also probably a PL in the army now. Fml.
He’s not a PL
I feel like I'd be really good at ignoring the yelling 😂. I have little kids so...
My 56-year-old father relays ratline horror stories daily.
Certainly an experience he hasn't forgotten.
Hopefully there are some funny stories. If not, I can supply some.
it’s a different culture and environment. I think what makes the academies / SMCs hard isn’t necessarily it’s training, however it’s the struggle in balancing academics, training, company stuff, social, and all the other commitments while staying afloat and not falling behind. Freshmen year I’d be taking a calc test, but also at the same time thinking about how my training company was gonna get railed in a few hours. Different world so it’s hard to compare to enlisted life.
Enlisted life is just getting railed 24/7
@@Choward6969 yes I know but WE (unlike civilians across USA,& Europe) more than make up for all those sacrifices & misery on werkends where we, as always, party/out party any other military/civiian/human/living organism. Truth.
Wow! A thought out response in a RUclips comment section. What a unicorn
The weak to very weak US military is no comparison at all. Even guys in dresses on flipflops could run them out of their country. I always take U.S soldiers down blindfolded to make it a bit more fair. Still easy targets. You can hear them screaming miles out. U.S should get a actualy military where people serve. Not some militia with barely any training but mostly screams where you swing off after 1-2 tours. When my boots hit U.S soil the entire U.S military will have ran for it already.
@@MrFlatage keep dreaming. You seem to know next to nothing about the REAL capabilities of the superb & elite active duty US military, especially the Army & the Marines.
Geeeezzz I‘m already sooo stressed by watching this 😵💫
My dad was the regional commander in 2003 (don’t know the exact word) but he tells so many stories some of his friends from vmi starting in 1999 came to his retirement ceremony this past weekend over 20 years later
I guess your dad was my regimental commander during my rat year.
7:39 You can't BEAT that last name LOL
He always wins
"Are you ready?"
"Yeah"
"No you're not"
An ordinary day with my mom when i was 14, and all for free!!!! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Damn I’m sorry about that
@@S5S5066 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I feel ya
5:36 Oh you talking to me got me so good!
The school should have gone private and stop accepting government assistance. But then that is a different discussion. What kind of stress can there be if a student at a military school does not have to serve in the military? But then why would someone go to VMI instead of one of the service academies or state sponsored school with an ROTC program?
As someone applying to VMI as well as traditional ROTC and the academies, I can tell you the service academy’s are incredibly selective(like Ivy League selective) and schools such as the citadel and VMI give a similar training regimen for the layman(during the civil war VMI was called the West Point of the south). I have friends who go to regular ROTC and do not get the level of military training that is levied at VMI and similar military colleges. Maybe they get to drill once a week, I’m personally not comfortable being put in charge of career enlisted men and women without the proper training mentally and physically to lead from the front.
Yoda: “PTSD is strong with this one”
"Rats are the lowiest and most despised of all creatures, my love. If they can have a purpose, so can we all"
Rats may be low but butterbars are the lowest form of animal life.
A better Suicide Squad movie
It makes OCS much easier. You pretend to screw up for a few days and then lock it back in as you are used to doing. There are few surprises at OCS after doing this for three years (they go the summer between the third and fourth years).
Classmates of the same class still refer to each other as Brother Rats long after the Ratline ends. Most of the times we use the acronym BR. Almuni VMI 1989
Place where RATS GO TO BE yelled at. Nobody knows why but I guess it’s fun.
It’s like Halloween hunted house lol they just pop out and scream
@@61raindrops 😂😂
@Mike Wiki I wanted to be an air force pilot for the Indian army and then somehow one thing lead to another now I live in Canada and have a life here all the while I struggle to get a youtube channel growing. But one day I will at least get myself a pilot's licence.
@Mike Wiki some people need to be controlled to be a better person
I grew up in New Market, Va. The new cadets have to march the 80 miles from VMI to New Market to recreate the march that the Cadets made during the Civil War.
Technically, there is a group of first class men that make the full 80 mile march. The rats meet them and do the last 20 miles. I've done the 20 miles twice.
Kinda crazy how some places are more eager to hire people from a military academy than someone with military experience. I keep seeing comments about "oh they just had jobs lined UP for them, left right and center." Yet I can almost guarantee nobody I'm with right now (we're in a pretty tech-based job so it'd in theory lead to six figures) will just have employers banging on their doors begging to hire em.
Tbh idk why anyone takes this path makes zero sense to me to get yelled at by college kids 247 and also get into debt for it
Imagine going to college after the military wanting to be an officer and some college kid larper tries to act intimidating
Or ideally going to college part time while still IN military (active duty), then get out & go to college full time for remaining 2 years, graduate & reenter military as an officer.
“ Yes Sgt” since i’m an ACTUAL SGT let me show how a real Sgt yells
We know they're not real Sergeants- it's training for if they actually commission.
Yesss please show them they need help 😭🤣
Show them how it's done man.
@Bill okay “Bill” 🤡
@Bill people like you take things serious. Have you heard of sarcasms or jokes? Have a nice night 🤡😂
5:27 that guy was smiling 😭😭😂😂😂😂
lmfao if i had these ppl yelling at me i wouldn't be able to keep a straight face this shit is too funny
Someone: do you Have parties at ur school?
Cadet: yes we have sweat party 😂
And THAT is the way the US sees military discipline... You know, there IS a way to push character, WITHOUT the insults.
Other armies use it to good effects. If you disrespect your troops, they will ALWAYS find someone else to disrespect in turn. Usually a civilian or most likely a member of the family.
You use MOTIVATION and you play on CHARACTER to get things moving. You do NOT coerce. Or you wind up with mentally unstable soldiers and officers that think insults and disrespect are a MUST in life!!!
The ONLY time I can see it, is during a SPECIFIC ex. with a combination of stress factors like sleep deprivation. To TEST a character. But in the USA. It's like a FUN THING to do... Yelling at people just to make them squirm...
It's IMPOSING your will, instead of getting it respected. It doesn't last as long and it brings a WHOLE set of new problems with it.
That's why we're the best
I always felt the same way about this sentiment. It’s a negative snowball effect
@@JuJu-vl2et But we're not the best. We haven't been able to win a war since Korea, and that is, in part, because when we go to a country to fight we expect the citizens to tolerate this kind of bad behavior towards them. We scream, yell, shoot and kill those it takes to really win the hearts and minds of the people. In the end, we lose because we can't make the civilians like us. We fought hard to avoid this kind of behavior in WWII; now being a pig is considered cool by these screaming morons.
@@farleyxwilbur3867 we won the persian gulf War, operation just cuase, operation urgent fury, kosovo war, and the Libyan war
@@farleyxwilbur3867 what
3:40 😂
"You're mine now"
I would wink and get into trouble right away 😂😂😂😂😂
The people who go thru this for our freedom are truly amazing
5:33 Chihuahua barking at a German Shepherd, Virginia Military Institute motto should be "Latrantes te fortior"
Lmao yeah. During basic, I had this Drill Sergeant who was like 5’6” with a thick Boston accent yell at me. Could not take him seriously
@@JerkingLegacy a DS named peace 4 ft 11, hard to take seriously. Man could navigate obstacle courses though
I have a friend that's part of this new VMI class. It sounds awful but I'm sure he'll do fine. Go Zach!
Did he OP yet?
Major respect to the guy at 8:17 saying "If there's racism here, so be it, I won't let that hinder my personal aspirations". He's going places.
So friggn exited abt the effort I've been seeing battling sexism, racism, etc.