I did not attend the Citadel but I do live here in Charleston. It’s a very prestigious college and you earn a top notch education. Teaches respect and students become men and women quickly. A Citadel degree is very prestigious when applying for jobs in the real world.
Ehhhh, the civilian world doesn't look at it anymore than any other private college it's not like a service academy. Same as Norwich. It will help pit a lot in your military career though. Norwich and citadel cadets are below service academy but above normal ROTC or OCS when it comes to general promotion rate.
"As a senior you see someone who is confident, well organized and ready to conquer life" then gets lost in land nav and gets punked by an E-3 whos' been in 4 years and gets chewed out by an E-7 who is about to retire hahahahahaha
@@vypa-bk1iy nah he's full of it Victor doesn't roll like that, other than clerks and former clerks but that is a generally accepted sop around the corps
Went to USNA as prior enlisted Marine. Had a good mentor there. He was a Marine captain named Chris Peete. He was a Citadel grad & a fantastic gent. Both fed & state military academies attract some really great folks.
@@bob80qThe Army academy is called the United States military academy. That's a real army military academy. Not a college according to what they call it
Two years of watching this day by day in taking my son to evening classes. I wish I had had this back at the start so I could translate the uniforms. Thanks!
@@jacobishii6121 no it isn't. Every service when they had garrison caps all stated it had to be parallel with the marching surface people just started wearing it that way in special duty assignments like paratroopers.
Army here. Can confirm the service uniform sucks to wear. ACU's are called "Fatigues" for a reason haha. Comfy and lightweight, especially the summers.
Weird they don't wear that as often,I had no idea that the salt and pepper uniform was not the leave uniform.I saw a citadel cadet heading back from Christmas leave with me on the same initial flight in the salt and pepper
Its a colloquial term. Since the introduction of the hot weather or "summer" variation of the OCPs its simpler to refer to it as the "winter" variation. While I was stationed on Ft. Lee, VA. as a part of the Marine detachment I have heard many a soldier refer to them as "summer" and "winter" variations. So while maybe not correct, generally speaking, he isn't wrong.
@@ZMonster01 There's nothing "winter" about it since you can wear it on any season and there's no insulation to keep you warm. It's just a standard OCP, I will die in that hill because that thing does not keep you warm.
@@armyjacky96 As I stated its colloquial. Its more of a reference as to when its worn not as to how it makes one feel. Whether it actually keeps you warmer or cooler is not what I intended to be my point.
"Blue magic"! lol I had forgotten about that product for years till the Citadel kids brought it up in this vid. We used Blue Magic in highschool/college (go Gamecocks!) marching band. Very cool, and the stuff definitely works. Good luck keeping a sousa pretty all gameday though! xD
Couldn't help but notice a few missing from the lineup in the first moments of the video. Dress salt and pepper are there but the heaviest was full dress grays with the wool pants. Also, there are several variations of duty uniform besides that depicted. There is duty with field jacket and overcoat, which is worn over the field jacket with black gloves. There is also the rain jacket which is worn over duty or summer leave but when worn with duty you wore a black garrison cap with rain cover. Only cadet officers wore the maroon sash, usually with a sword... cadet privates (most of us) wore no sash and carried an m14 at parades and drills. We didn't have the OCP uniforms, those came in the early 2000s, but all the others are still in effect I'd imagine. Charleston is mostly hot and humid but you do get a couple weeks in winter where it's near or at freezing and throw in some wing and you appreciate the overcoat with gloves... especially your knob year. Oscar '96
As a former cadet at MMI going into West Point next year, I can confidently say that the Citadel is a college that most military schools look towards in terms of uniform and day to day life. But generally, the wool uniforms suck and the pants suck. OCPs are okay but I would much rather wear the hot heat OCP than the blouse
just wait till yall get it 💀 currently serving my first contract as Navy enlisted and i can say with full confidence that the working uniforms (OCP for army) is probably the one you’ll end up hating the most
Tradition. And it's something that makes us stand out from actual military (who we try not to directly match because it's disrespectful) and other military colleges
If you want to train to become a legit Army Officer and you are not going to West Point, the next best option is The University of North Georgia Corps of Cadets in Dahlonega, Georgia. Do some research, that research will back up what I’ve said. If you’d like your entire school cost paid for similar to West Point cadets, you can have that at UNG pretty easily. It’s there for the taking.
Uniforms at Maritime are far more comfortable and the OCPs are great in the windy cold New England climate. Maritime, kids, same commission if that's what you want.
I always disagreed with attending a military academy, the commission is the same. Why wouldn't I just go to a regular college, party for 4 years, then attend OCS, and get my 2nd LT the same as everyone else? There is no advantage to going to a military college. I was in the Marines (00-2015) we did not care where the LT went to college, our favorite LTs where mustangs. (Prior enlisted who went officer.) They had actual on the ground experience, and knew the daily ins and out of enlisted, they where the guys you wanted leading your platoon. Anyone else "straight out of college." Did not matter to us, we didn't care where you went to, it didn't matter, you where still a boot LT, that knew nothing. Infact quite the opposite, if I heard Annapolis we'd immediately roll our eyes because we knew they drank the kool aid pretty hard.
@@aidenmalcolm8909 Well you should, we're the men you lead. What do you mean you don't care about our opinion? This is the exact issue I'm talking about. This is exactly why we'd roll our eyes at any LT out of an academy. Haven't done shit, yet thinks the way that you do. Ridiculous.
The reason why someone would want to join a military academy like Citadel instead of doing ROTC or OCS to get the same commission would be 1) College is 100% paid for (with ROTC you only get a $5500 a semester scholarship which may not be enough to cover your costs, and OCS does loan repayment only up to a certain amount of $ plus makes you ineligible or harder to earn the GI Bill) 2) People who don't trust themselves having the self discipline to complete college, so they need a basic training type environment for their 4 years.
The shoes we wore were Cor-fam. These looked like paten-leather (so?). Used nylon stockings to shine. The most oppressively hot shoes ever. Hated them.
Seriousq question: why do people go to the Citadel? I get West Point, yeah I bet it sucks too but it’s prestigious and free. But if you don’t get into West Point aren’t you better off just doing ROTC at your state school if you want to join the army??
The service academies have gone woke. The Citadel, VMI, Norwich have done a better job maintaining traditions and culture. These are important. And West Point is not feee. American taxslaves fund it.
@@ArtyMac I see but tbh that just makes it more bizarre to me, why bother with all this if you aren’t going to join? It seems like nothing but a giant cosplay then
@@value4363 Not really a cosplay as The Citadel was initially a legitimate military installation where young men would receive an education in return for military service. The legitimate military status of the school has disappeared over time and now just carries over the traditions(e.g. the uniforms and military-ish* life style). Besides as an earlier comment stated one of the largest reasons for attending the the legacy reasons and the alumni network. * military-ish for civilian standards, in reality they are quite different.
The worst officers I ran into were from The Citadel, and I was an officer. Literally go anywhere else aside from a Military College if you cant go into West Point.
maritime and norwich are like navy and army in fact that they are both of the oldest service/no obligation military academies that have nrotc fir maritime and arotc for norwich
Because they are designed to be a bit more practical. I'd rather have a good fighting force than grunts pulling shine 5 hours a day just so they look acceptable. Also nowadays there are more body types to factor in and these old styles don't fit everyone well.
@@almerindaromeira8352 Please explain, how are there more "body types" now to factor in than there were in previous periods? Dress uniforms aren't supposed to be practical, nor are these cadets going to be "grunts" the whole point of attending a military academy is to start off as an officer once you graduate. Dress uniforms are fitted, they are literally designed to form to an individual's unique shape.
@@colbunkmust have you looked at the military in the last decades? Heck, have you looked at the US population at large? Nowadays you have more females joining the military, you have, for lack of a better term, chuby people joining and so on. Does a tightly fit shirt look well with a belly, no it doesn't, it looks unkept and unprofessional. Before you comment they should all do more PT instead, not everyone is infantry. Let's face the facts. The more time you spend looking after your apparel, the less time you have for other probably more important things. Yes you can argue it teaches you something about something, but after the first 100 repetitions it's just annoying. Having low maintenance attires are a good thing. If you are just too old school to get that, than I agree to disagree with you.
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Very informative, however, I think this video would have been better if a live person was wearing the uniforms and covers as the speaker spoke and pointed out the various items of dress and explanations.
I heard that too. Initially dismissed it assuming I didn't hear it correctly. I've since listed to it a few more times. He speaks clearly and doesn't have a discernable accent. I could be wrong, but it sounds to me as if he intended to say "farce." All branches of the military poke fun at each other. That's normal. But to make a comment like this on, what I assume is, an officially sanctioned video is not a good idea and rather disrespectful.
Nothing better than a SPC with a Combat Infantry Badge talking down to cadets when they're cross training with active duty 11B's. Hurts their weak little ego's haha
My favorite was asking them what the life expectancy of a 2LT in a hot LZ during Vietnam was. The realization that they are just as expendable at that rank as us was a eye opener.
@ZEroT387 I've heard new soldiers who came in after the hot westhers say the same thing. He likley believes there's such a thing. LTs are already dumb. Cadets are a few steps below. SMCs are just more confident fools
Its a colloquial term. Since the introduction of the hot weather or "summer" variation of the OCPs its simpler to refer to it as the "winter" variation. While I was stationed on Ft. Lee, VA. as a part of the Marine detachment I have heard many a soldier refer to them as "summer" and "winter" variations. So while maybe not technically correct, generally speaking, he isn't wrong.
@ZMonster01 It ain't simpler. These covid era soldiers are just stupid. Future Sir should wear his "winters" in winter and see how well they do. Freezing his balls off without his silk, waffle, or fleece. They're not meant for anything other than Fall & Spring.
so heres a question. you were saying that seems like a lot of these uniforms are made of wool, what happens if someone is allergic to wool? would they just be barred from going here bc they cant wear all the different uniforms?
I never saw a cadet allergic to wool when I was there, but the wool jackets have a poly liner on the inside and you wear these white collars and cuffs made essentially out of card stock. If you’re careful and wear something around your neck under the jacket you never actually have to touch the wool
I've never known anyone to be allergic to wool, though some cadets get bad rashes from some of the collar brass. What I've heard they do to solve this issue is to put masking tape over any brass that might touch their neck.
Short answer, no. Per our official manual: "The red sash is the badge of cadet rank for cadet officers and those NCOs authorized to carry the sword, when under arms. The blue sash will be worn by all other cadets authorized to wear a sash in the performance of their duties (Cadet Choir, Chapel Ushers, Escort, etc.)
0:33: 👨🏫 Caleb McHargue, the deputy regimental commander at The Citadel, explains the eight primary uniforms worn at the institution. 3:13: 👕 The video showcases the OCP uniform worn by the speaker and discusses its comfort and functionality. 6:07: 👮♂ The video discusses the cadet officer's belt and shoes and the process of shining and maintaining them. 9:22: ! The dress white uniform at The Citadel is significant and takes time to put together. 12:13: 💼 The video discusses the different uniforms and accessories worn by cadets at West Point. Recap by Tammy AI
West Point is the US Army Academy. Everyone going to West Point is going into the military. The Citadel is a public college not tied to any specific service.
You have to understand that Caleb here is officially representing the school right now and can't act cool. When speaking to the news you give the official answer and not your actual opinion.
The oxfords are not hard to shine. That's just laziness. If you were taught correctly, you would know you just have to rub them enough with a polish rag and saddle soap to break the protective lacquer coating on the leather. Then shining to a mirror finish takes a few minutes. When I was in ROTC, our M.I. (A First Sergeant) taught us the proper way to prep our oxfords, before shining them.
@@taoliu3949 not sure how the other SMCs do it, but the dress uniforms are hand tailored at The Citadel. Not sure about the fatigues and duty uniforms though. I think they're all sourced from Vanguard.
@@holden5478 "Tailored" and "Bespoke" are not synonymous. A cursory search shows that the uniforms are off the rack, which means that they could have been made anywhere.
@@taoliu3949 I will say the uniforms are made in some factory (maybe sweatshop) somewhere, but are then tailored as the Citadel. The college has its own tailor shop that does everything from the cadet uniforms to civilian clothes. It’s actually included in tuition, cadets just need to make sure the item is clean and then they will hem the item.
nisibonum7634 - I thought the same thing, but then I heard his pronunciation of a lot of words were "slurred" over. Had he been drinking (for courage?), just lazy, or how he spoke naturally (speech impediment?)?
4:32 "expert" in ironing that can whip one out in 30min? wtf?...quicker to drive to dry cleaners and come back....(i sleep better knowing in time of a world fashion crisis the "zoolander platoon" is ready to be deployed)
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I did not attend the Citadel but I do live here in Charleston. It’s a very prestigious college and you earn a top notch education. Teaches respect and students become men and women quickly. A Citadel degree is very prestigious when applying for jobs in the real world.
nobody needs a military college to "become men and women quickly". What a weird thing to say.
Ehhhh, the civilian world doesn't look at it anymore than any other private college it's not like a service academy. Same as Norwich.
It will help pit a lot in your military career though. Norwich and citadel cadets are below service academy but above normal ROTC or OCS when it comes to general promotion rate.
"As a senior you see someone who is confident, well organized and ready to conquer life" then gets lost in land nav and gets punked by an E-3 whos' been in 4 years and gets chewed out by an E-7 who is about to retire hahahahahaha
You just salty ain't you
still gets paid more lmfao
@@johnan3398 actually no, Citadel Cadets are not military.
@@rezatravellers8699 You're just mad cuz hes right
@@lazyidiotofthemonth Never said they were. Just said that theyll earn more anyway
Seems like a perfect officer. Quick to drive a bus over other company's about their covers.
Do you think he meant it in a maliciously pointed way or a fun jab at fellow colleagues kind of way. I'm genuinely curious.
@@vypa-bk1iy nah he's full of it Victor doesn't roll like that, other than clerks and former clerks but that is a generally accepted sop around the corps
@@oof9788 ok so he was doing it because he is a jerk and wanted to make himself look better by throwing someone else under the bus?
@@vypa-bk1iyit’s not that deep. You’re being a dick.
there’s a lot of competitions between companies so it was probably a light hearted jab at victor
Went to USNA as prior enlisted Marine. Had a good mentor there. He was a Marine captain named Chris Peete. He was a Citadel grad & a fantastic gent. Both fed & state military academies attract some really great folks.
VMI and The Citadel are Military Colleges not academies. "Military Academy" is a term generally used to describe high school level institutions.
Rah. Doing the same right now
@@melodycheng4363 which thing? You a mid or company officer?
@@bob80qThe Army academy is called the United States military academy. That's a real army military academy. Not a college according to what they call it
@@jonhettrick7969 gosh I had no idea.
Two years of watching this day by day in taking my son to evening classes. I wish I had had this back at the start so I could translate the uniforms. Thanks!
I love every United States military uniform a big shout out to their tailor
Check out the new agsu uniform it’s a new ww2 style uniform for army.
Wearing the Garrison hat tilt to the side is actually the way Soldiers mostly in WWII Wears it. So it's an old Fashion.
goes back even further than that. 1860s in the UK. It's also known as a "side cap" for that reason.
It's supposed to worn like that,it's not really a choice
@@jacobishii6121 no it isn't. Every service when they had garrison caps all stated it had to be parallel with the marching surface people just started wearing it that way in special duty assignments like paratroopers.
Army here. Can confirm the service uniform sucks to wear. ACU's are called "Fatigues" for a reason haha. Comfy and lightweight, especially the summers.
When I was on AD I never heard anyone call them fatigues
Weird they don't wear that as often,I had no idea that the salt and pepper uniform was not the leave uniform.I saw a citadel cadet heading back from Christmas leave with me on the same initial flight in the salt and pepper
The S&P used to be worn as a leave uniform, at least when I was there.
No it is during season, summer leave ended parents weekend
@@vause1 that makes sense,I served over 20 years ago.Thanks
Salt and pepper is leave from parents weekend to Christmas.
There’s no “winter OCPs” it’s just a regular one before the Army came out with the hot weather OCP.
exactly, this guy is tripping something fierce.
Its a colloquial term. Since the introduction of the hot weather or "summer" variation of the OCPs its simpler to refer to it as the "winter" variation. While I was stationed on Ft. Lee, VA. as a part of the Marine detachment I have heard many a soldier refer to them as "summer" and "winter" variations. So while maybe not correct, generally speaking, he isn't wrong.
@@ZMonster01 There's nothing "winter" about it since you can wear it on any season and there's no insulation to keep you warm. It's just a standard OCP, I will die in that hill because that thing does not keep you warm.
@@armyjacky96 As I stated its colloquial. Its more of a reference as to when its worn not as to how it makes one feel. Whether it actually keeps you warmer or cooler is not what I intended to be my point.
@@armyjacky96 there was no insulation with winter BDUs either they were just less breathable. They were still called winter BDUs. Take the L guy
"Blue magic"! lol I had forgotten about that product for years till the Citadel kids brought it up in this vid. We used Blue Magic in highschool/college (go Gamecocks!) marching band. Very cool, and the stuff definitely works. Good luck keeping a sousa pretty all gameday though! xD
I graduated in 2020, a great place to be from and a terrible place to be at.
All these uniforms look amazing! ❤🇺🇸👍
Citadel class of ‘26!
Sending in my application soon. Nervous, but excited.
Did you get in?
@@QuisUtDeus828 yes. Ultimately though chose not to go. But still getting my commission after college.
Couldn't help but notice a few missing from the lineup in the first moments of the video. Dress salt and pepper are there but the heaviest was full dress grays with the wool pants. Also, there are several variations of duty uniform besides that depicted. There is duty with field jacket and overcoat, which is worn over the field jacket with black gloves. There is also the rain jacket which is worn over duty or summer leave but when worn with duty you wore a black garrison cap with rain cover. Only cadet officers wore the maroon sash, usually with a sword... cadet privates (most of us) wore no sash and carried an m14 at parades and drills. We didn't have the OCP uniforms, those came in the early 2000s, but all the others are still in effect I'd imagine. Charleston is mostly hot and humid but you do get a couple weeks in winter where it's near or at freezing and throw in some wing and you appreciate the overcoat with gloves... especially your knob year. Oscar '96
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No pockets adds to a professional image? Ever wonder about a stupid rule in the military? It’s this mindset that creates them.
Well he's being groomed to be an officer so it makes sense 😂
Your OCPs are out of regs. He’s wearing a OCP temperate top with summer bottoms.
Oh my gosh I know that guy! That’s Neil! I went to highschool with him. He’s an awesome dude!
When he was talking about the various ROTC branch uniforms, I'm pretty sure he said "Air Farce" Oof...
I've noticed that, too.
He did
Better said than chair force…
"Press through.. and suck it out.." well that's.. an interesting choice of words 😅
that first one gotta come with a year's supply of gear 😮
As a former cadet at MMI going into West Point next year, I can confidently say that the Citadel is a college that most military schools look towards in terms of uniform and day to day life. But generally, the wool uniforms suck and the pants suck. OCPs are okay but I would much rather wear the hot heat OCP than the blouse
just wait till yall get it 💀 currently serving my first contract as Navy enlisted and i can say with full confidence that the working uniforms (OCP for army) is probably the one you’ll end up hating the most
I’ve been waiting for this video
I'd love to see Insider come over to Canada for some of our military stuff. Nice little change of pace from the US
Who cares about any other military
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Do you have any plans to do a video on Norwich University? Birthplace of the ROTC program?
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why they call the dress blue uniform "dress blue" when it's gold and white?
It's a historical thing. I've heard the Royal Navy dress uniform referred to as Dress blues when it is Black
The blue and golden with the star very alike to the first I design for the army instead for army black and gold
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some of the biggest degenerates i know went here 😂
I always wondered why military colleges wear different uniforms then rotc cadets
Because they all want to act like they’re something special since they’re insecure about not being West Point
Tradition. And it's something that makes us stand out from actual military (who we try not to directly match because it's disrespectful) and other military colleges
Knock off West Point pretty much
Each one has own tradition and history
probably because they are unique places and the cadets are not just any ROTC member
I saw an idea in the blue pants as a black line at the side of the blue pants
If you want to train to become a legit Army Officer and you are not going to West Point, the next best option is The University of North Georgia Corps of Cadets in Dahlonega, Georgia.
Do some research, that research will back up what I’ve said.
If you’d like your entire school cost paid for similar to West Point cadets, you can have that at UNG pretty easily.
It’s there for the taking.
Uniforms at Maritime are far more comfortable and the OCPs are great in the windy cold New England climate. Maritime, kids, same commission if that's what you want.
Wait til this young man became a commander or general and command with his voice will ultimately be followed
I still have most of my son’s uniforms (Echo 2008).
Who is your son? I was Echo 11 so he was a senior when I was a knob.
Take a trip to college station and do a series about the Corps of Cadets
The Corps of Cadets is every ROTC program in the country including this one.
I always disagreed with attending a military academy, the commission is the same. Why wouldn't I just go to a regular college, party for 4 years, then attend OCS, and get my 2nd LT the same as everyone else?
There is no advantage to going to a military college. I was in the Marines (00-2015) we did not care where the LT went to college, our favorite LTs where mustangs. (Prior enlisted who went officer.)
They had actual on the ground experience, and knew the daily ins and out of enlisted, they where the guys you wanted leading your platoon.
Anyone else "straight out of college." Did not matter to us, we didn't care where you went to, it didn't matter, you where still a boot LT, that knew nothing. Infact quite the opposite, if I heard Annapolis we'd immediately roll our eyes because we knew they drank the kool aid pretty hard.
@@aidenmalcolm8909 Well you should, we're the men you lead.
What do you mean you don't care about our opinion? This is the exact issue I'm talking about. This is exactly why we'd roll our eyes at any LT out of an academy. Haven't done shit, yet thinks the way that you do. Ridiculous.
@@aidenmalcolm8909defensive
The reason why someone would want to join a military academy like Citadel instead of doing ROTC or OCS to get the same commission would be 1) College is 100% paid for (with ROTC you only get a $5500 a semester scholarship which may not be enough to cover your costs, and OCS does loan repayment only up to a certain amount of $ plus makes you ineligible or harder to earn the GI Bill) 2) People who don't trust themselves having the self discipline to complete college, so they need a basic training type environment for their 4 years.
@@aidenmalcolm8909”in a perfect world, all officers would be mustangs” how to show you don’t know what you’re talking about in 4 seconds
@@jb76489”you’d have”
The United States Marines dorns the most practical uniforms. And if it matters, the most stylish 😎. "Tinge Hut"
The shoes we wore were Cor-fam. These looked like paten-leather (so?). Used nylon stockings to shine. The most oppressively hot shoes ever. Hated them.
Blue black and gold I design for the army
I'm glad I came in direct commission. All of this is too much.
Seriousq question: why do people go to the Citadel? I get West Point, yeah I bet it sucks too but it’s prestigious and free. But if you don’t get into West Point aren’t you better off just doing ROTC at your state school if you want to join the army??
Because the Citadel like most senior military colleges do not have a service commitment for their cadets like ROTC Colleges or the Service Academies.
Lack of service commitment is the main benefit. Other than that it's usually for legacy reasons or the alumni network.
The service academies have gone woke. The Citadel, VMI, Norwich have done a better job maintaining traditions and culture. These are important.
And West Point is not feee. American taxslaves fund it.
@@ArtyMac I see but tbh that just makes it more bizarre to me, why bother with all this if you aren’t going to join? It seems like nothing but a giant cosplay then
@@value4363 Not really a cosplay as The Citadel was initially a legitimate military installation where young men would receive an education in return for military service. The legitimate military status of the school has disappeared over time and now just carries over the traditions(e.g. the uniforms and military-ish* life style). Besides as an earlier comment stated one of the largest reasons for attending the the legacy reasons and the alumni network.
* military-ish for civilian standards, in reality they are quite different.
The worst officers I ran into were from The Citadel, and I was an officer. Literally go anywhere else aside from a Military College if you cant go into West Point.
Make a video for Norwich University, the first private military college.
Who on Earth would want to go all the way to Northfield Vermont to do a documentary of Norwich? It's literally in the middle of nowhere.
maritime and norwich are like navy and army in fact that they are both of the oldest service/no obligation military academies that have nrotc fir maritime and arotc for norwich
@@holden5478 I graduated from there, and I can confirm your statement 😂
who cares, The Citadel is a public college
Now, why cant the actual service uniforms be as nice?
Massive budgets for uniform, due to their fees etc.
@@alexh3974 you do understand that US military officers pay for their own dress uniforms... it's not a budget issue.
Because they are designed to be a bit more practical. I'd rather have a good fighting force than grunts pulling shine 5 hours a day just so they look acceptable.
Also nowadays there are more body types to factor in and these old styles don't fit everyone well.
@@almerindaromeira8352 Please explain, how are there more "body types" now to factor in than there were in previous periods?
Dress uniforms aren't supposed to be practical, nor are these cadets going to be "grunts" the whole point of attending a military academy is to start off as an officer once you graduate. Dress uniforms are fitted, they are literally designed to form to an individual's unique shape.
@@colbunkmust have you looked at the military in the last decades? Heck, have you looked at the US population at large?
Nowadays you have more females joining the military, you have, for lack of a better term, chuby people joining and so on. Does a tightly fit shirt look well with a belly, no it doesn't, it looks unkept and unprofessional.
Before you comment they should all do more PT instead, not everyone is infantry. Let's face the facts.
The more time you spend looking after your apparel, the less time you have for other probably more important things. Yes you can argue it teaches you something about something, but after the first 100 repetitions it's just annoying. Having low maintenance attires are a good thing.
If you are just too old school to get that, than I agree to disagree with you.
Says pt uniform with pockets look unprofessional. Meanwhile every branch has pt gear with pockets and every uniform has pockets lol.
Why was the dude in the OCPS wearing a regular top and summer bottoms??
Probably I remembered the wine color scarf dangling yes probably my idea 💡 too.
I went to General Mark Clark's birthday at the Citadel in (i think) late 1970s)
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Very informative, however, I think this video would have been better if a live person was wearing the uniforms and covers as the speaker spoke and pointed out the various items of dress and explanations.
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"Air Farce" 2:18 looks like hes not branching there.
I heard that too. Initially dismissed it assuming I didn't hear it correctly. I've since listed to it a few more times. He speaks clearly and doesn't have a discernable accent. I could be wrong, but it sounds to me as if he intended to say "farce." All branches of the military poke fun at each other. That's normal. But to make a comment like this on, what I assume is, an officially sanctioned video is not a good idea and rather disrespectful.
Eight, Jesus. Who's the Commandant, Hermann Goering?
2:14 Face-nappies? In 2024? How old _is_ the raw footage? 😮😵💫
Nothing better than a SPC with a Combat Infantry Badge talking down to cadets when they're cross training with active duty 11B's. Hurts their weak little ego's haha
My favorite was asking them what the life expectancy of a 2LT in a hot LZ during Vietnam was. The realization that they are just as expendable at that rank as us was a eye opener.
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The cover he said is the gariaon cover is not a garison cover and the cover he said was just a cover was
Lived in Charleston, everyone makes fun of the citadel kids
Sittle? What is he saying?
This guy seems like a real fun person to hangout with......
😂😂
Actually, yeah. He is. :)
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Theres no such thing as "Winter PTs'. Theyre Regular OCPs and "Hot Weather OCPs".
I was about to say the same. He probably just had a gaffe
@ZEroT387 I've heard new soldiers who came in after the hot westhers say the same thing. He likley believes there's such a thing. LTs are already dumb. Cadets are a few steps below. SMCs are just more confident fools
Its a colloquial term. Since the introduction of the hot weather or "summer" variation of the OCPs its simpler to refer to it as the "winter" variation. While I was stationed on Ft. Lee, VA. as a part of the Marine detachment I have heard many a soldier refer to them as "summer" and "winter" variations. So while maybe not technically correct, generally speaking, he isn't wrong.
@ZMonster01 It ain't simpler. These covid era soldiers are just stupid.
Future Sir should wear his "winters" in winter and see how well they do. Freezing his balls off without his silk, waffle, or fleece. They're not meant for anything other than Fall & Spring.
We have winter PT's at the citadel. Imagine sweatpants and a sweatshirt thats what he was talking about.
Was hoping this was going to be a Rick and Morty thing
Bate has corfram shoe. Just spray on some pledge and wipe with a soft cloth. Use anodized brass
We're specifically banned from using those things because it's easier
so heres a question. you were saying that seems like a lot of these uniforms are made of wool, what happens if someone is allergic to wool? would they just be barred from going here bc they cant wear all the different uniforms?
Or maybe just smart enough to not apply?????
Being allergic to wool seems pretty rare, so it probably isn't factored in.
I never saw a cadet allergic to wool when I was there, but the wool jackets have a poly liner on the inside and you wear these white collars and cuffs made essentially out of card stock. If you’re careful and wear something around your neck under the jacket you never actually have to touch the wool
I've never known anyone to be allergic to wool, though some cadets get bad rashes from some of the collar brass. What I've heard they do to solve this issue is to put masking tape over any brass that might touch their neck.
vmi cadet here, whats with the blue sashes? are they interchangeable with the red ones?
Short answer, no. Per our official manual:
"The red sash is the badge of cadet rank for cadet officers and those NCOs authorized to carry the sword, when under arms.
The blue sash will be worn by all other cadets authorized to wear a sash in the performance of their duties (Cadet Choir, Chapel Ushers, Escort, etc.)
0:33: 👨🏫 Caleb McHargue, the deputy regimental commander at The Citadel, explains the eight primary uniforms worn at the institution.
3:13: 👕 The video showcases the OCP uniform worn by the speaker and discusses its comfort and functionality.
6:07: 👮♂ The video discusses the cadet officer's belt and shoes and the process of shining and maintaining them.
9:22: ! The dress white uniform at The Citadel is significant and takes time to put together.
12:13: 💼 The video discusses the different uniforms and accessories worn by cadets at West Point.
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Of course its the reflective belt. 😂
The Citadel? Is this Mass Effect? Is the catalyst in there?
30 minutes = expert? 😂 5 after IET.
This looks very similar to West Point… what’s the difference?
West Point is the US Army Academy. Everyone going to West Point is going into the military. The Citadel is a public college not tied to any specific service.
You have to pay lmfao, unless you're a fully scholarshiped ROTC cadet then you don't. It's kinda like knock off West Point tbh
You have to pay with money not time in service.
Looks more squared away than West Point…hasn’t gone woke yet I guess
"bulging pockets"
Ah, a Blue Falcon in the making. “ThAt’s NoT HoW yOU WEaR ThE CoVEr!” And that’s not how you perform a land nav course, sir.
You have to understand that Caleb here is officially representing the school right now and can't act cool. When speaking to the news you give the official answer and not your actual opinion.
The oxfords are not hard to shine. That's just laziness. If you were taught correctly, you would know you just have to rub them enough with a polish rag and saddle soap to break the protective lacquer coating on the leather. Then shining to a mirror finish takes a few minutes. When I was in ROTC, our M.I. (A First Sergeant) taught us the proper way to prep our oxfords, before shining them.
bro forgot to ask if all of those are Made in China
No, they’re all custom tailored to fit cadets. Also, cadets typically tailor their own clothes afterwards to get an even better fit.
@@mitchelhuott8484That doesn't mean they're bespoke......
@@taoliu3949 not sure how the other SMCs do it, but the dress uniforms are hand tailored at The Citadel. Not sure about the fatigues and duty uniforms though. I think they're all sourced from Vanguard.
@@holden5478 "Tailored" and "Bespoke" are not synonymous. A cursory search shows that the uniforms are off the rack, which means that they could have been made anywhere.
@@taoliu3949 I will say the uniforms are made in some factory (maybe sweatshop) somewhere, but are then tailored as the Citadel. The college has its own tailor shop that does everything from the cadet uniforms to civilian clothes. It’s actually included in tuition, cadets just need to make sure the item is clean and then they will hem the item.
Interesting!
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that gag lines lookin a little out of line there
McHargue, Walk the Plank, Feed the Fish
Huh
all these fancy uniforms but still lost to Georgia southern 0-34 GATAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
There are going to be future high level officers in the future.
why does he pronounce citadel so weird? he like skips the "ta"
nisibonum7634 - I thought the same thing, but then I heard his pronunciation of a lot of words were "slurred" over. Had he been drinking (for courage?), just lazy, or how he spoke naturally (speech impediment?)?
@@JustMe-cr1dr If this was recorded during ring week he very well may have been hammered
@@oof9788 - Thank you for your reply.
That first guy McHarque, needs to tuck his shirt better
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Lol, all I heard was complaints.
Not as good as the usmc dress blues
First of all, he's hot af
If you have to go to a funeral can you were the uniform
"Siddle"
4:32 "expert" in ironing that can whip one out in 30min? wtf?...quicker to drive to dry cleaners and come back....(i sleep better knowing in time of a world fashion crisis the "zoolander platoon" is ready to be deployed)
You aren’t allowed to leave campus until the weekends in most cases and there are specific ways you have to iron the duties and summer leaves
We can't go to the dry cleaners except on weekends and specific uniforms have the creases done certain ways (button tuck)