When you tune into a military video and this narrator is the one narrating you know its gonna be a banger😂 but fr his voice is beyond perfect for all the military related videos Insider does
@@ianramoscardenas4507 I'm also active duty. These are military cadets at a military 4-year college. Once they graduate, most will be commissioned as officers. Doing 4 years of academics while also having to adhere to a strict military regimen is far more difficult than a brief boot camp will ever be.
@@VerakkTV Personally I think that any academy graduates should have to attend boot camp after. Simple reasons is they will learn what those kids they will be leading have gone through. Also if you made it through four years of an academy it should not be hard but a challenge to them to see how well they can do. If you get your commission through an academy you do get more respect points automatically from enlisted. At the same time they pair you up with a senior NCO to make sure you don’t f up.
You’re not wrong. I mean, was this really the finest representation of the incoming freshman class? Because, if so, that has to be quite embarrassing for the institution as a whole.
Considered Norwich, ended up at The Citadel. Never once regretted it. But, in the spirit of military education institutes, Norwich has always been respected by the others.
The video doesn't mention it, however, sure the school is expensive on paper, but the amount of scholarships and grants gifted to students from the school and alumni make enrollment much more feasible and possible for anyone that wants to take on the opportunity.
It’s expensive on paper because it is actually expensive. The students just don’t bear the cost. The taxpayer does. This university is scamming the government out of grant money. I’m not going to complain about the ROTC scholarship because that’s the same everywhere it’s the grants that’s the real problem. all the students could go to other schools and join an ROTC program for a fraction of the price.
@@djones1234567654321 more like 90% covered by the taxpayer. Most people probably don’t care about the ROTC scholarship, but I do have a real problem with the university scamming the government out of grant money.
@@mikej5959 I didn’t know that the taxpayers were all alumni? Many of these grants come from graduates who pay it forward. The school has one of the strongest alumni networks in the nation and many become donors.
@pwhales264 two words: Custer Syndrome. Officers obsessed with glory instead of proper leadership and offer lackluster and even dangerous leadership styles. Aggie here, (Texas A&M), and doing my time in our Corps of Cadets, we and Norwich seem to have a similar structure and standard of excellence. VMI and El Cid are notorious for having higher rates of hazing and incidences of nepotism in Cadet leadership than the other SMCs. Granted we have our problems as does Norwich but holy hell. The stories I've heard really showcase 2 different worlds.
@@bbm-140 Tech is similar to A&M as it was an SMC turned into a full-fledged co-ed university, as well as their Corps became optional like us. They honestly keep to themselves in terms of media presence and ROTC performance. But I've heard decent things.
@@Forester- thats nice? i rather that then get yelled at by pogs that havnt seen a day of real military service lol expecially with all these snobby women lol
The founder of Norwich, Alden Partridge, was the Superintendent at West Point. He felt that the education there was too one-dimensional and that they were not creating quality officers. He founded Norwich because he believed that officers needed to be trained in a wide variety of subjects and learn to be critical thinkers. He introduced many innovations there that universities still try to copy today--like experiential learning. So basically, you can go to an academy for free to learn to be an officer or you can go to Norwich and learn to be a well-rounded, critical thinking officer or join a 3- letter agency, or become a business leader. Far more options at Norwich.
@@FuzzyNestor Misunderstanding. I was just pointing out the very famous comic character in the UK. He's a fictional radio DJ called Alan Partridge and he famously lives in Norwich and has a show on Radio Norwich. It's the character that made steve coogan famous. It's just a name coincidence.
I don't get it why not just signup for UC Berkeley or any other university with lower fees and join the ROTC. U If we're arguing about private business exit options, UC Berkeley has way brand recognition in the private sector.
My dad was a sports nut in high school and got a three year sports scholarship. This was back in the 30s and his family had no money for college At the end of 3 years he was out of scholarship and luck. The university president offered to pay his tuition on a gentleman’s agreement if my dad would pay it back in 5 years My dad sold sandwiches in the dorm and worked during breaks and paid the president back on graduation day. That shows how much money and people have changed since then. He went into the reserves until he was called up in the war; he always had good memories of his Norwich days
lol. I’m still alive because I haven’t hit 70 yet- there is still life after you get your be 25😂. My father was a member of the class of 1937 , got his commission in the reserves and called up when we were having problems with Hitler. I came along when he was 40, he was a great dad and grandfather, and still alive in my memory. You guys enjoy your young grandparents and being on the young side of 40. It won’t last forever 😂
Not sure why some negative comments. Most at this school commission and become successful military leaders. Others pay for school just like everyone else but leave with leadership and other skills and confidence that they can not learn from other universities.
Military leaderhip is not thesame as civvy. When young officers go into the military, they have NCOs as a buffer between them and the ORs. Some youngter out of that unie, going into a civvy career, trying to act like an officer, than a manager, will cause feck ups.
Well, they’re selling their bodies and souls to a corporate run country that doesn’t care about them under the guise of patriotism. You can learn leadership and confidence whether you go to school of any kind or not. They also look like dweebs.
@@oksowhat Some kid coming out all spit and polish, and no NCO to put them in there place, hold the leash, until they can walk by them selfs I hope they are taught the difference between civvy teams and a military unit.
I saw a survey that graduates from here are in the top 10% of income earners when established in their careers. This school stood out to me because it was mixed in with some very notable universities in the country. The return on investment is amazing for these kids.
It seems more likely that their incomes are inflated due to nepotism and generational wealth than the school's performance. On an unrelated note, why do these dudes keep saying rook is short for recruit, when it is clearly short for "rookie"
@@AndrewDangerously Don't know for sure. However, a quick search on financial aid, says 96% of their students receive financial assistance from the school. Just on that data set alone, I find it hard to verify your position on generational wealth. Could be...
@@AndrewDangerously It does not prove it either. You have the burden of proof to substantiate your position. Otherwise, you can't be trusted with anything you say. Ultimately, I really do not care.
@@AndrewDangerously I got a significant sum of money from the school, the rest is all in loans that I took out myself. No assistance from anyone else. I am very much not in the minority position on the campus, at the very least, not on the Corps of Cadets side of the school. Your ideology tends to hold slightly more true for the civilian students, but even then its a stretch
I got to visit and meet some of the people in this video at FLC and they all had some of the biggest impacts on me in my life so far. The guys I did FLC with are some of the closest friends I made and I was only with them for 9 days.
Agree. when you graduate from the U.S.M.M.A. you can if there are open slots,the service branch you want.And as a deck or engineer officer in the Merchant Fleet,make big big bucks.
I have so much respect for Norwich students! I have played against them often in Men’s Rugby and they remind me each time what intense training they have
Northfield was my hometown, and my sister actually attended as a civilian. However, I learned something new watching this documentary. Very enlightening.
yeah well sure, however the Army ain't gonna give you a college education and some jobs in the military are only for officers (such as pilot). And if you say "but one can apply to OCS from the street for free", let me tell you that selection to OCS is very competitive from the street and still ain't easy from inside as enlisted. It really depends upon goals to determine which path makes the most sense for each person.
I went through basic training in the Canadian army. It is modelled on the British Army. No one yells at you ever but sometimes the drill people make you feel pretty small. It worked. I watched videos of US basic training. It looked wierd
I did my first year there then enlisted...honestly basic was stupid easy for me after that!!! Even got Distinguished Honor Grad...ended up Airborne and Pathfinder Qualified as a squad leader 6 yrs later!!!
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE that's awesome man, I talked to a recruiter and shipped off a few weeks later or so without knowing anything at all so basic was pretty rough for me at the age I was with no experience/maturity.
@AllenV-q8n it was a blast man, the good times, the bad times, the "growing up", the hazing...wouldn't have changed a thing, would've 100 percent done my year at Norwich then enlisted, AGAIN!!!
Ahhhhh. Good times. Just keep everything shined and focus on what’s important (academics FIRST). It’s a great experience and one you won’t regret later in life. Essayons.
Very good option for all Americans and foreign students who plan on a very highly disciplined and rigid education system without commitment to US Military service but instill the core of discipline for their entire lives.
When i came home from Iraq I got selected to be a summer instructor at USMA for Operation Highland Warrior. During the Company Defense phase we had yhe cadets dig two man fighting positions. We stopped the training so all of the cadets could file by the fighting position dug by a Norwich Cadet and her battle buddy. It was the best fighting position i had seen in a very long rime.
I can’t believe how out of shape some of these kids look. Back in the 1990’s they were called “Nintendo Babies” in boot camp. I blame the parents and hope this academy will change their lives in a good way. I know joining the Navy did me a ton of good.
Look at the state of cities and even towns in the US. Very little to no sidewalks, no bike lanes, not even decent public transport. When you're forced to drive everywhere and there's a fast food joint every few buildings... There's no investment in public health anymore
This is like a guaranteed way to graduate college Discipline, physical capability, confidence building Turning boys to men and girls to women Better then cheap colleges that worry about emotions
@@VlonelyRed I have average intelligence, don't come from money and I got plenty of NU scholarships. I also landed an ROTC scholarship after I maintained a decent gpa for 2 semesters. I work hard. I now have less than 10k in debt left and I graduated NU somewhat recently. I made some of my best memories and best friends there. Plus i get to call beautiful Vermont home to my alma mater which is awesome coming from a boring flatland state out west. Worth it. Additionally, the Norwich network is worth its weight in gold with many different careers. Just work hard and do good things. God bless, NU forever.
I haven't read all the comments, but not only does Norwich have the oldest ROTC program, but it is also well-known for providing the Army with many cavalry and later, armor officers, I.D. White, and Ernest Harmon among them. Edited to add: They also used to have an on-line Masters and Doctoral program in military history, and may still.
(timestamp 13:02) Yea simply jogging won't cut it. If you want to prepare for sessions like that (which can never be a true 100%), doing anaerobic routines and High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) will go much better.
Yo a lot of big talk in this comment section for people who are too weak to do it. I get it, 50K is a lot of money, but most of us have ROTC scholarships, and I can attest that the officers that this school produce are the finest in the US.
This is kind of a scam considering how the United States Air Force trains you to be a leader in BMT. After that there's nothing but promotions to become an officer in every AFSC if you qualify.
Those who are calling these men and women "LARPers" and insulting their dedication to this program, you simply do not get it. As a graduate of this institution and an Active Duty Air Force Officer, I can promise you that the reasons these individuals choose to come here are so much deeper than to "play soldier". They seek challenge. They seek a unique college experience. They seek camaraderie. And as someone who spent four years here, I can guarantee you they will find it and they will grow as individuals, and as the finest Officers the armed forces have.
That is one of the questions that I asked. They probably Tick-Tock'd the hell out of the place I would I think they would have maybe started doing one pushup first day, then two the second, etc., but that's just my Dad brain being crazy again ;) I also think it's interesting that it is in Vermont which is one of the most liberal states on the East coast.
I truly don't understand the point of these schools. You are paying ridiculous amounts of money to get yelled at by civilians who are just further into their schooling. If you then go onto join the military, yes, the discipline & military customs will help initially, basic training would have taught you that anyway.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus you can say that about literally any SMC. Your point? Even West Point cadets have told people they’d rather have gone to Norwich than West Point (from the horses mouth).
After watching your military recruitment videos, I can definitely say it seems much easier to join the U.S. military as an officer compared to my country. Here, thousands compete for a handful of positions, and many applicants are already earning more than they would in the military.
"It's crazy how nice the people cutting hair are. I remember they almost gave us whiplash, and half the people left with a bloody head. It's wild how different the enlisted pipeline is from the officer pipeline.
For those mentioning getting yelled at and paying $70k, most students actually receive full-ride scholarships. My nephew graduated from there years ago, and my brother didn’t pay a dime. It’s a fantastic opportunity, as graduates secure a position as an officer in the U.S. military.
Norwich is okay, but West Point far exceeds any academy, hands down. Let me put it this way, no one gets turned away from Norwich and attends West Point. Many people get turned down from West Point and attend Norwich. That simple.
Yeah, why would you pay to go to a private school as a military academy? that's so insane. If you don't get into WestPoint you go to a public university and join ROTC so that they pay for your education and training.
Not a Norwich grad but most of my West point peers leave alot to be desired. What I have noticed is the people who are great aren't great because of West point but that same truth applies to other SMCs, ROTCs and OCS grads.
@BusinessInsider - do a video profiling the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M. It is one of six Senior Military Colleges and has a full time uniformed cadet corps!
$62k a year to do ROTC that you can do a lot cheaper in a lot of state schools. And you get to have a worse time than those. I never understood the draw of these places; Norwich, Citadel, and the like Academy without the main benefits of coming out of an academy.
The alumni connections are HUGE. VMI and The Citadel in particular have alumni networks that allow you to succeed in business and industry after your military service. I did ROTC at Arizona. I got the same commission as a Norwich grad, but after leaving AD I couldn't pick up the phone and land an interview just because of my school.
@@kevinm.8682 that makes sense, thanks for that perspective. I still don’t think I would have went that direction for school but now that you know that would you have gone to VMI or Citadel to commission?
Yea it's a bit much, but their cyber and intelligence programs are great, and the school serves a pipeline to federal agencies (non military agencies). So there are some pretty neat career prospects for cadets who don't commission into the actual military.
@@rjmurp1115 as someone commissioning next year, had buddies go to Citadel and VMI and bring back their experiences, I'm glad I didn't go to either. Places are literal prisons, and generally don't seem to prepare you well for life after a military career should you choose to go down that road.
Hey, I went here and became a Marine Officer after graduation. It set me up well for the military and life in general. Not for everyone though, glad to help if you have questions.
Anyone remember that camp comedy , when the new recruits turn up at the front gate and the Sargent Major comes out and starts bawling and screaming " Right you 'orrible shower , drop yer cases and get in line !! Quickly ! Get a move on !! Let's have you ! " And one of the recruits just stands there and doesn't move .The sergent major comes running over screaming in his ear . The recruit says " I say old boy would you mind awfully not shouting too loudly ? I ve got this terrible headache ! I got a call from Jessic late last night ! Too many Pink Gins in the club don't you know !? Could you be a dear and get me some aspirin " Well the Seargent Major's face turned purple with rage just before his head exploded !
From an ex Brit NCO....... who is from Norwich England . Its pronounced and said as Narwich if you ar from Norfolk....And cadre is French pronounced and said as Carrder or carder.
Coming from France, I'm quite baffled to be honest... Why are they paying to join the military and why is this “military college” private in the first place ?? And who are these "cadres" ? Are they active military ?
Cadre not just in that college but in general are older students that are used as instructors. It is a private military College therefore if you attend normally you cannot go into the military as an officer only if you apply and get a ROTC scholarship which then makes the college free and you automatically enter after the 4 years as a 2nd lieutenant in the US military this is all linked with ROTC ROTC and an extent JROTC are programs in schools and universities to make Reserve officers for the military JROTC is different though it's for high school far less strict
Back when I was at West Point in 1980, there were no boxes to move, no bopping around or anything like that. Once you were at the academy, you were on lockdown and there was no stress relief.
Jeez, the 'hazing' instructor should have been there. It was an entirely different ballgame. Whatever they went through wouldn't have even been considered hazing.
to personally welcome you to the finest 6:34 and the oldest military college in the United States, Um West Point is older. It was founded in 1802 by Thomas Jefferson. who happened to be president at the time. Norwich was founded in 1819.
Why on earth would someone pay nearly $100,000 to attend a school where you’re under constant scrutiny. Especially if youve got no intention of enrolling in the military after graduation.
Senior military college* not an academy. Also 90% of the hockey team is apart of the civilian population (just go to college and don’t do the corps of cadets and ROTC)
$47000 a year. That's $200,000 to graduate. Go to junior college and finish up at a local state university then invest the balance in a retirement trust and you have funded your retirement.
@@ak9989 Navy Sailor, this gotta be the biggest waste of time ever. Might as well go to basic. It’s a waste of money for something kids can get for free going a different route
50% they said dont join up after this? like why? i get a small percent take this to turn themselves around who really need this.. but what is everyone else doing to pay that amount? shit you can join for 2 years in the reservs and see if you like it for free. the people who follow through are smart and joining your sign on bonus will be sweet, specially in the navy..
the video really doesn't represent just how much money the school gives in academic scholarships, or represent how many people at the school are here on Millitary Contracts or ROTC scholarships. I cant think of any of my peers who pay even close to the full amount
So why would someone want to go through 4 years of military school if they weren't interested in going to the military? Why not have fun in college if you intend to be a civilian?
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Paying 40K a year to get yelled at is outrageous. I get the same treatment from my mom for free.
Don’t even pay a fraction of that
Maybe it the way for parents keep their children out of drugs and alcohol
Here I can see straight discipline
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70k*
This is insane. I pay 70k to be treated like garbage.
"we make them look good so they won't get yelled at", that was sweet!
sorry but its actually something like“we make them look good so they wont get yelled at too much upstairs”
so they will be yelled at anyway lol
When you tune into a military video and this narrator is the one narrating you know its gonna be a banger😂 but fr his voice is beyond perfect for all the military related videos Insider does
Just join the Army and get yelled at for free……and they’ll pay for your education too 😂
Fr, I’m an active duty marine, I look at this and see no real discipline, no sense of urgency, responsibility or respect whatsoever. Too soft
@@ianramoscardenas4507 I'm also active duty. These are military cadets at a military 4-year college. Once they graduate, most will be commissioned as officers. Doing 4 years of academics while also having to adhere to a strict military regimen is far more difficult than a brief boot camp will ever be.
@@ianramoscardenas4507 Heck I am Air Force and even I am saying WTF?
@@VerakkTV Personally I think that any academy graduates should have to attend boot camp after. Simple reasons is they will learn what those kids they will be leading have gone through. Also if you made it through four years of an academy it should not be hard but a challenge to them to see how well they can do. If you get your commission through an academy you do get more respect points automatically from enlisted. At the same time they pair you up with a senior NCO to make sure you don’t f up.
No, join the Army and get PAID to be yelled at! :) And, like you said, they'll pay for your education!
You guys sure know how to pick the goober squad as interviewees.
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You’re not wrong. I mean, was this really the finest representation of the incoming freshman class? Because, if so, that has to be quite embarrassing for the institution as a whole.
Considered Norwich, ended up at The Citadel. Never once regretted it. But, in the spirit of military education institutes, Norwich has always been respected by the others.
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Does everyone at the citadel have an rotc scholarship? I can’t imagine someone paying to get abused
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The video doesn't mention it, however, sure the school is expensive on paper, but the amount of scholarships and grants gifted to students from the school and alumni make enrollment much more feasible and possible for anyone that wants to take on the opportunity.
Can confirm --- many of these cadets are on ROTC scholarships and pay no tuition.
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I was gonna say, as a Financial Aid professional, I am almost certain most of these kids are at least 90% covered by the University
It’s expensive on paper because it is actually expensive. The students just don’t bear the cost. The taxpayer does. This university is scamming the government out of grant money. I’m not going to complain about the ROTC scholarship because that’s the same everywhere it’s the grants that’s the real problem. all the students could go to other schools and join an ROTC program for a fraction of the price.
@@djones1234567654321 more like 90% covered by the taxpayer. Most people probably don’t care about the ROTC scholarship, but I do have a real problem with the university scamming the government out of grant money.
@@mikej5959 I didn’t know that the taxpayers were all alumni? Many of these grants come from graduates who pay it forward. The school has one of the strongest alumni networks in the nation and many become donors.
As a Naval Academy grad and Marine infantry officer, some of the most impressive peers I have went to Norwich. VMI is a different story..
What's wrong with VMI or the Citadel?
@pwhales264 two words: Custer Syndrome. Officers obsessed with glory instead of proper leadership and offer lackluster and even dangerous leadership styles. Aggie here, (Texas A&M), and doing my time in our Corps of Cadets, we and Norwich seem to have a similar structure and standard of excellence. VMI and El Cid are notorious for having higher rates of hazing and incidences of nepotism in Cadet leadership than the other SMCs. Granted we have our problems as does Norwich but holy hell. The stories I've heard really showcase 2 different worlds.
@@210Caveman26 Thank you for that excellent explanation.
@@210Caveman26what about Virginia tech/VPI
@@bbm-140 Tech is similar to A&M as it was an SMC turned into a full-fledged co-ed university, as well as their Corps became optional like us. They honestly keep to themselves in terms of media presence and ROTC performance. But I've heard decent things.
Everyone is focusing on the tuition like most of the students don’t have large scholarships or service branch contracts with full rides 🤦🏻♂️
It’s still crazy because you can go sign up and get paid to do it 😂😂
How do they get it
Public college won't cost that much tho.
@@williemherbert1456 Out of state tuition at some public colleges can cost over 40k
@@Forester- thats nice? i rather that then get yelled at by pogs that havnt seen a day of real military service lol expecially with all these snobby women lol
The founder of Norwich, Alden Partridge, was the Superintendent at West Point. He felt that the education there was too one-dimensional and that they were not creating quality officers.
He founded Norwich because he believed that officers needed to be trained in a wide variety of subjects and learn to be critical thinkers. He introduced many innovations there that universities still try to copy today--like experiential learning.
So basically, you can go to an academy for free to learn to be an officer or you can go to Norwich and learn to be a well-rounded, critical thinking officer or join a 3- letter agency, or become a business leader. Far more options at Norwich.
NO way is the founder Alden Partridge. See Alan Partridge, Norwich UK's most famous citizen.
@1mlister Alden not Alan. And it's information you can easily fact check on something called the internet.
@@FuzzyNestor Misunderstanding. I was just pointing out the very famous comic character in the UK. He's a fictional radio DJ called Alan Partridge and he famously lives in Norwich and has a show on Radio Norwich. It's the character that made steve coogan famous. It's just a name coincidence.
@@1mlisterMy bad too. I was being social media snarky... not good. Apologies!
I don't get it why not just signup for UC Berkeley or any other university with lower fees and join the ROTC. U If we're arguing about private business exit options, UC Berkeley has way brand recognition in the private sector.
My dad was a sports nut in high school and got a three year sports scholarship. This was back in the 30s and his family had no money for college At the end of 3 years he was out of scholarship and luck. The university president offered to pay his tuition on a gentleman’s agreement if my dad would pay it back in 5 years My dad sold sandwiches in the dorm and worked during breaks and paid the president back on graduation day. That shows how much money and people have changed since then. He went into the reserves until he was called up in the war; he always had good memories of his Norwich days
Holy shit dude if your dad went to college in the 30s how are you still alive… my grandparents were all born in the 50s
@@MitchellLee-ej8kd Ему около 80 максимум.)
У меня отцу 74 года, а его отец закончил в 41 году.
I think you hit the wrong key on the num pad. You're father most likely was in during the 60's like my dad or in the 90's....
lol. I’m still alive because I haven’t hit 70 yet- there is still life after you get your be 25😂. My father was a member of the class of 1937 , got his commission in the reserves and called up when we were having problems with Hitler. I came along when he was 40, he was a great dad and grandfather, and still alive in my memory. You guys enjoy your young grandparents and being on the young side of 40. It won’t last forever 😂
Not sure why some negative comments. Most at this school commission and become successful military leaders. Others pay for school just like everyone else but leave with leadership and other skills and confidence that they can not learn from other universities.
Military leaderhip is not thesame as civvy.
When young officers go into the military, they have NCOs as a buffer between them and the ORs.
Some youngter out of that unie, going into a civvy career, trying to act like an officer, than a manager, will cause feck ups.
Well, they’re selling their bodies and souls to a corporate run country that doesn’t care about them under the guise of patriotism. You can learn leadership and confidence whether you go to school of any kind or not. They also look like dweebs.
@@tonycavanagh1929 this college is also not like west point, as they said, they for sure will have some mechanism to make them adapt to civ life.
@@oksowhat Some kid coming out all spit and polish, and no NCO to put them in there place, hold the leash, until they can walk by them selfs
I hope they are taught the difference between civvy teams and a military unit.
@@tonycavanagh1929 true
I saw a survey that graduates from here are in the top 10% of income earners when established in their careers. This school stood out to me because it was mixed in with some very notable universities in the country. The return on investment is amazing for these kids.
It seems more likely that their incomes are inflated due to nepotism and generational wealth than the school's performance.
On an unrelated note, why do these dudes keep saying rook is short for recruit, when it is clearly short for "rookie"
@@AndrewDangerously Don't know for sure. However, a quick search on financial aid, says 96% of their students receive financial assistance from the school. Just on that data set alone, I find it hard to verify your position on generational wealth. Could be...
@@joeylynn1374 87% of all American college students get "some form" of financial aid, that doesn't somehow disprove nepotism.
@@AndrewDangerously It does not prove it either. You have the burden of proof to substantiate your position. Otherwise, you can't be trusted with anything you say. Ultimately, I really do not care.
@@AndrewDangerously I got a significant sum of money from the school, the rest is all in loans that I took out myself. No assistance from anyone else. I am very much not in the minority position on the campus, at the very least, not on the Corps of Cadets side of the school. Your ideology tends to hold slightly more true for the civilian students, but even then its a stretch
A private military college with 200+ years of history. Interesting concept and good quality education.
I went to Norwich for a 2 week intensive military leadership course during the summer run by Marine NCOs. Still have good stories from that time.
I got to visit and meet some of the people in this video at FLC and they all had some of the biggest impacts on me in my life so far. The guys I did FLC with are some of the closest friends I made and I was only with them for 9 days.
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Please do the United States Merchant Marine Academy next! They're the only US Service Academy still missing from the list!
Agree. when you graduate from the U.S.M.M.A. you can if there are open slots,the service branch you want.And as a deck or engineer officer in the Merchant Fleet,make big big bucks.
Yes! My dad went there and I don’t hear much of anything about it from anyone but him.
Class of 76. Something’s have changed since my Rook year but the mission remains the. Welcome to the Norwich family
I have so much respect for Norwich students! I have played against them often in Men’s Rugby and they remind me each time what intense training they have
Northfield was my hometown, and my sister actually attended as a civilian. However, I learned something new watching this documentary. Very enlightening.
Imagine paying 47-50k to get yelled at when you can just join the army and get paid to get yelled at.
I guess it makes sense if you’re on a ROTC scholarship, otherwise ya it seems weird.
yeah well sure, however the Army ain't gonna give you a college education and some jobs in the military are only for officers (such as pilot). And if you say "but one can apply to OCS from the street for free", let me tell you that selection to OCS is very competitive from the street and still ain't easy from inside as enlisted. It really depends upon goals to determine which path makes the most sense for each person.
Shout out to all the Norwich Cadre. They have a lot to do, and they deserve all the respect.
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Norwich Forever, coming here gave me all sorts of opportunities I would’ve never had going anywhere else!
I went through basic training in the Canadian army. It is modelled on the British Army. No one yells at you ever but sometimes the drill people make you feel pretty small. It worked. I watched videos of US basic training. It looked wierd
28 years the Army as an officer and I never met a single Norwich graduate.
I went to basic with a couple guys that went to military schools and they were far ahead of everyone else.
I did my first year there then enlisted...honestly basic was stupid easy for me after that!!! Even got Distinguished Honor Grad...ended up Airborne and Pathfinder Qualified as a squad leader 6 yrs later!!!
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE that's awesome man, I talked to a recruiter and shipped off a few weeks later or so without knowing anything at all so basic was pretty rough for me at the age I was with no experience/maturity.
@@GAMES.GUNS.andLIFE I wish I had the experience in life to go to a military college.I bet it was a blast.
@AllenV-q8n it was a blast man, the good times, the bad times, the "growing up", the hazing...wouldn't have changed a thing, would've 100 percent done my year at Norwich then enlisted, AGAIN!!!
Class of 2000…changed my life, made me who I am today! NU forever!! ESSYONS!
Did you end up commisioning?
Ahhhhh. Good times.
Just keep everything shined and focus on what’s important (academics FIRST). It’s a great experience and one you won’t regret later in life. Essayons.
Very good option for all Americans and foreign students who plan on a very highly disciplined and rigid education system without commitment to US Military service but instill the core of discipline for their entire lives.
When i came home from Iraq I got selected to be a summer instructor at USMA for Operation Highland Warrior. During the Company Defense phase we had yhe cadets dig two man fighting positions. We stopped the training so all of the cadets could file by the fighting position dug by a Norwich Cadet and her battle buddy. It was the best fighting position i had seen in a very long rime.
00:29 bro taking a rip from the brass
Jim black reference
It honestly smells good. I dunno about blanks but I have smelled like HE 155mm shells being fired smells immaculate
Dude. I knew I’d find you in the comments section. Love you brother.
My grandfather graduated from Norwich in approximately 1916 and retired as a Major General in 1953.
Norwich Forever! Class 2024
I can’t believe how out of shape some of these kids look. Back in the 1990’s they were called “Nintendo Babies” in boot camp. I blame the parents and hope this academy will change their lives in a good way. I know joining the Navy did me a ton of good.
Look at the state of cities and even towns in the US. Very little to no sidewalks, no bike lanes, not even decent public transport. When you're forced to drive everywhere and there's a fast food joint every few buildings... There's no investment in public health anymore
This is like a guaranteed way to graduate college
Discipline, physical capability, confidence building
Turning boys to men and girls to women
Better then cheap colleges that worry about emotions
This is way tougher than just going to a normal university and getting a degree.
These “students” are being trained to kill. Don’t confuse them with students. These are soldiers.
ya and its also almost 300k for 4 years. unless your rich not worth the debt at all.
@@VlonelyRed I have average intelligence, don't come from money and I got plenty of NU scholarships. I also landed an ROTC scholarship after I maintained a decent gpa for 2 semesters. I work hard. I now have less than 10k in debt left and I graduated NU somewhat recently. I made some of my best memories and best friends there. Plus i get to call beautiful Vermont home to my alma mater which is awesome coming from a boring flatland state out west. Worth it. Additionally, the Norwich network is worth its weight in gold with many different careers. Just work hard and do good things. God bless, NU forever.
which is why they have a 54% 4 year graduation rate...
I haven't read all the comments, but not only does Norwich have the oldest ROTC program, but it is also well-known for providing the Army with many cavalry and later, armor officers, I.D. White, and Ernest Harmon among them.
Edited to add: They also used to have an on-line Masters and Doctoral program in military history, and may still.
(timestamp 13:02) Yea simply jogging won't cut it. If you want to prepare for sessions like that (which can never be a true 100%), doing anaerobic routines and High Intensity Interval Training (HIIT) will go much better.
Thanks Jocko
New military video ! My favorite so in depth and interesting to follow excellent narration and cinematography
Yo a lot of big talk in this comment section for people who are too weak to do it. I get it, 50K is a lot of money, but most of us have ROTC scholarships, and I can attest that the officers that this school produce are the finest in the US.
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I'm in the Canadian army and the training in this video is a joke.
This is kind of a scam considering how the United States Air Force trains you to be a leader in BMT. After that there's nothing but promotions to become an officer in every AFSC if you qualify.
Also a lot of career services and fairs for the federal agencies...
Best officers I had were prior enlisted
Graham, keep these military videos coming! I love this series!
Was that Eagle Scout Hrabal?
Good on them I was in the army for 6 years enlisted and wish when I was younger I had the opportunity to do this.
Those who are calling these men and women "LARPers" and insulting their dedication to this program, you simply do not get it. As a graduate of this institution and an Active Duty Air Force Officer, I can promise you that the reasons these individuals choose to come here are so much deeper than to "play soldier". They seek challenge. They seek a unique college experience. They seek camaraderie. And as someone who spent four years here, I can guarantee you they will find it and they will grow as individuals, and as the finest Officers the armed forces have.
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@@Discipleofthelordandjesus You're a merchant marine midshipman or whatever right? So you aren't going to be an officer in the military? Got it lol.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesusur so pressed
@@SkelatalmaniakUpon graduation ( next year) I will be either assigned active duty or guard component. Commissioning was never my intention. 😙
The best way to be an officer IMO, in enlist and then later find a commissioning program. If you cant get into the academies.
How do you enroll in a military academy without even a basic amount of physical fitness training? Fascinating.
That is one of the questions that I asked. They probably Tick-Tock'd the hell out of the place I would I think they would have maybe started doing one pushup first day, then two the second, etc., but that's just my Dad brain being crazy again ;)
I also think it's interesting that it is in Vermont which is one of the most liberal states on the East coast.
I would think their washout rate is at least 50%
Going soon! Can’t wait!
Going to Norwich was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made. Essayons!
3:20 why didn't they shave this rook?
also why pay 47 Gs when you can do this at Annapolis for free?
I truly don't understand the point of these schools. You are paying ridiculous amounts of money to get yelled at by civilians who are just further into their schooling. If you then go onto join the military, yes, the discipline & military customs will help initially, basic training would have taught you that anyway.
The strong need a place to work away from the weak
@@yeetdude7560No. Norwich is where the rejected ( all the other military academies) go to feel accepted.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus you can say that about literally any SMC. Your point? Even West Point cadets have told people they’d rather have gone to Norwich than West Point (from the horses mouth).
It is a fasttrack to officer and leadership roles. So if your goal is to become a general this is the quicker path towards that.
@@Discipleofthelordandjesus hold up, you've posted on most comments just talking shit, so where is your experience coming from?
After watching your military recruitment videos, I can definitely say it seems much easier to join the U.S. military as an officer compared to my country. Here, thousands compete for a handful of positions, and many applicants are already earning more than they would in the military.
Hazing reported vs. Hazing done...words are powerful make sure you ask the right questions 😊
"It's crazy how nice the people cutting hair are. I remember they almost gave us whiplash, and half the people left with a bloody head. It's wild how different the enlisted pipeline is from the officer pipeline.
I’m not sure if it’s mentioned, but there is a civilian population of students at Norwich as well. Some of them are even in the ROTC.
Yup. Roughly 1/3 population is civilian. Very few civilian students in ROTC but there are a few here and there.
For those mentioning getting yelled at and paying $70k, most students actually receive full-ride scholarships. My nephew graduated from there years ago, and my brother didn’t pay a dime. It’s a fantastic opportunity, as graduates secure a position as an officer in the U.S. military.
That is cap, most students do not receive full-ride scholarships
Norwich is okay, but West Point far exceeds any academy, hands down. Let me put it this way, no one gets turned away from Norwich and attends West Point. Many people get turned down from West Point and attend Norwich. That simple.
Yeah, why would you pay to go to a private school as a military academy? that's so insane. If you don't get into WestPoint you go to a public university and join ROTC so that they pay for your education and training.
Not a Norwich grad but most of my West point peers leave alot to be desired. What I have noticed is the people who are great aren't great because of West point but that same truth applies to other SMCs, ROTCs and OCS grads.
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Bro the guy huffing the blank☠️☠️
Imagine seeing that in formation 😂
Honestly this is such a cool and unique school for military
Who would choose to do this if your intent is NOT to join the military??
Yeah, I didn’t get that. Why on earth would you submit yourself to 4 years of that if you were going military.
Great Video... There is a difference between Hazing and Assault.
@BusinessInsider - do a video profiling the Corps of Cadets at Texas A&M. It is one of six Senior Military Colleges and has a full time uniformed cadet corps!
Do they play Rugby in the USA ? I never knew that ! You learn something new everyday !
$62k a year to do ROTC that you can do a lot cheaper in a lot of state schools. And you get to have a worse time than those. I never understood the draw of these places; Norwich, Citadel, and the like Academy without the main benefits of coming out of an academy.
The alumni connections are HUGE. VMI and The Citadel in particular have alumni networks that allow you to succeed in business and industry after your military service. I did ROTC at Arizona. I got the same commission as a Norwich grad, but after leaving AD I couldn't pick up the phone and land an interview just because of my school.
@@kevinm.8682 that makes sense, thanks for that perspective. I still don’t think I would have went that direction for school but now that you know that would you have gone to VMI or Citadel to commission?
Yea it's a bit much, but their cyber and intelligence programs are great, and the school serves a pipeline to federal agencies (non military agencies). So there are some pretty neat career prospects for cadets who don't commission into the actual military.
@@rjmurp1115 as someone commissioning next year, had buddies go to Citadel and VMI and bring back their experiences, I'm glad I didn't go to either. Places are literal prisons, and generally don't seem to prepare you well for life after a military career should you choose to go down that road.
“You get to have a worse time” - have you ever spoken to a NU grad? Things being different doesn’t make them worse. 😉
USNA Is where it's at if you want to go to a military academy/college. It's also free, they actually pay you to go there.
06:25 "permission to touch" ? 🙄 What if he said "denied" ?
I’m looking into going here and using the Navy National Scholarship to pay for it. The reason I want to go is to be a Officer in the Marines
Hey, I went here and became a Marine Officer after graduation. It set me up well for the military and life in general. Not for everyone though, glad to help if you have questions.
*an officer
Anyone remember that camp comedy , when the new recruits turn up at the front gate and the Sargent Major comes out and starts bawling and screaming " Right you 'orrible shower , drop yer cases and get in line !! Quickly ! Get a move on !! Let's have you ! " And one of the recruits just stands there and doesn't move .The sergent major comes running over screaming in his ear . The recruit says " I say old boy would you mind awfully not shouting too loudly ? I ve got this terrible headache ! I got a call from Jessic late last night ! Too many Pink Gins in the club don't you know !? Could you be a dear and get me some aspirin " Well the Seargent Major's face turned purple with rage just before his head exploded !
From an ex Brit NCO....... who is from Norwich England . Its pronounced and said as Narwich if you ar from Norfolk....And cadre is French pronounced and said as Carrder or carder.
Coming from France, I'm quite baffled to be honest... Why are they paying to join the military and why is this “military college” private in the first place ?? And who are these "cadres" ? Are they active military ?
Cadre not just in that college but in general are older students that are used as instructors. It is a private military College therefore if you attend normally you cannot go into the military as an officer only if you apply and get a ROTC scholarship which then makes the college free and you automatically enter after the 4 years as a 2nd lieutenant in the US military this is all linked with ROTC ROTC and an extent JROTC are programs in schools and universities to make Reserve officers for the military JROTC is different though it's for high school far less strict
9:37 thanks for the shout out 🤪
It is a fantastic school and education. I am beyond happy with my university education.
Do frog week at ung!!!
When are y'all covering Texas A&M, the largest senior military college in the nation?
Would love a SMC series followed by Service Academies. Cheers to my Texas brothers
Passalacqua was one on my rook buddies back in 84
covers in the building is crazy to me
Im from a city called Norwich in the UK. We pronounce it Norridge not Nor-Witch. Wonder where this uni got its name?
Back when I was at West Point in 1980, there were no boxes to move, no bopping around or anything like that. Once you were at the academy, you were on lockdown and there was no stress relief.
Navy paid ME to do this. Of course, the Navy didn't give a crap about my "stress levels" 😁😁
Jeez, the 'hazing' instructor should have been there. It was an entirely different ballgame. Whatever they went through wouldn't have even been considered hazing.
to personally welcome you to the finest
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and the oldest military college in the United States,
Um West Point is older. It was founded in 1802 by Thomas Jefferson. who happened to be president at the time. Norwich was founded in 1819.
"Permission to touch?" Does the PRC soldier ask that too? lmao
I served with officer’s from there. Good men.
My Alma Mater class of ‘21
Bro what is the compression on this video? Everything looks so blocky.
9:48 "They have to follow the law." Is it just me, or is the delivery of that line almost regretful?
That isn’t Norwich, Norwich is in Norfolk. It’s like football all over again.
This place has been in so many movies it’s ridiculous 💯
Why on earth would someone pay nearly $100,000 to attend a school where you’re under constant scrutiny. Especially if youve got no intention of enrolling in the military after graduation.
Going to a $0 tuition service academy is one thing. Paying $63,000 a year in tuition to put up with the same bullshit is outrageous.
That kid huffing shell smoke?? 😂
Just checked out Mens hockey roster ...lotsa Canadians ,not sure how that works at a US military academy?
Senior military college* not an academy. Also 90% of the hockey team is apart of the civilian population (just go to college and don’t do the corps of cadets and ROTC)
@@KRM_2002 So do they participate in the squareing etc...
@@itcu185 no, they're not part of the corps, so they don't do the corps things. They're just normal university students
Why do people choose to suffer through this for 4 years of college if they're not going to join the military?
Wow… this school looks bad ass. We should go. BV, AW, VL 💪
Bro casually dropped the best advice ever 3:18
$47000 a year. That's $200,000 to graduate. Go to junior college and finish up at a local state university then invest the balance in a retirement trust and you have funded your retirement.
Im a 23 year us army combat vet at least these kids are doing something unlike the losers who comment that cant get into the military
Oh you are 23! I am sure we should hear what you have to say. Please share your wisdom child.
@@ak9989 Navy Sailor, this gotta be the biggest waste of time ever. Might as well go to basic. It’s a waste of money for something kids can get for free going a different route
@@DrSteth I'm pretty certain he meant 23 years in the military, not 23 years old…
So, i'm a loser since I didn't get into the military? I went to college instead. Screw you.
@@DrSteth He said 23 years in the army lil bro.
I always thought that any military advertising must inspire potential participants, but not depress them.
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50% they said dont join up after this? like why? i get a small percent take this to turn themselves around who really need this.. but what is everyone else doing to pay that amount? shit you can join for 2 years in the reservs and see if you like it for free. the people who follow through are smart and joining your sign on bonus will be sweet, specially in the navy..
the video really doesn't represent just how much money the school gives in academic scholarships, or represent how many people at the school are here on Millitary Contracts or ROTC scholarships. I cant think of any of my peers who pay even close to the full amount
"Rook" privileges is hazing in itself, but it's done by the school and not others.
Wait…why would you pay for a private military college if you’re not pursuing a military career?
So why would someone want to go through 4 years of military school if they weren't interested in going to the military? Why not have fun in college if you intend to be a civilian?
Usually just people that are disabled or are not able to go into the military do it so they get the experience the words of my navel ROTC instructor.