"Cadet McClain, I noticed you did not participate in Hell Night. Why?" "Well, sir, I didn't really like it when it was done to me and I didn't want to do it to anyone else."
@@stevesteve5804 lemme guess you’re over the age of 30, a boomer, and constantly uses the word woke. Shit Is getting cringe atp also this is citadel , not the marine corps
Yeah I actually really liked the way he had a firm tone but remained polite and respectful. That's how it should be since you really don't need to be screaming and going on power trips to control freshmen.
@@BurtonGuster57 Basically, people who haven’t done shit or dick yelling at other people who haven’t done shit or dick either. At least on the enlisted side (And OCS) we are trained by people who’ve deployed, served their country and experienced the military.
Its used as a term of hierarchy. The individual that used it has been there in their shoes. The Knob is like a baby, not knowing anything going on. Its not meant to be disrespectful.
Trying to raise strong kids here. If you are soft they will be soft. This school is not for everyone. As a mom of a cadet, I know my son is tough, but I hope they make him tougher. In this world one must be strong to survive.
Cadet Tiberghien, keep up the great attitude, maintain the warm smile and never, ever forget how you started... I hope you reach as high as possible and bring about a positive change... US Army veteran
@@mac001texas Pretty sure this is for normal 18-19 year olds that want some form of discipline. Not veterans that already went through boot camp/basic training and know basic military bearing and discipline
I saw a pic from West Point about 10 years ago of a cadet with a CIB and Airborne wings and of course probably around 6 ribbons....If I was an upper classman i would have been intimidated by him deep down as i was yelling at him due to me knowing i was a drug store cowboy yelling at a true blue bas ass
Cadet Tiberghien keep up your awesome awesome attitude when you become an officer you’re already a gentleman and everyone under your command will appreciate that
This is how it's been for generation. My grandfather went there with this type of welcome, as did my dad 30 years later. I never even thought of attending. It creates outstanding Cadets.
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. Cadet Tiberghien, if you go on to serve as an officer in the US military, your attitude will cause people to follow you into hell and I'm sure that with your training and education, you will be able to bring them back home, one way or an other. USA!
Partially correct. Citadel Cadets manning Ft Moultrie at the entrance to the Charleston Harbor fired on The Star of The West, a Union supply ship that was attempting to reach Ft. Sumter to resupply and bolster it's garrison of Union troops. These were the shots that started the Civil War. The action is commemorated by a gold star on one side of the Band of Gold, the ring that Citadel Graduates earn.
I'm still surprised my brother made it through 4 years of this and still am not completely clear on what happened toward the end of high school that made him think, "yeah, this is what I want." But I respect it. He was a completely different person after knob year. Ever since he's been straight laced, buff, deep voiced, no nonsense, hard working model of a soldier and citizen.
Ties to the Confederacy? No shit. It's located in Charleston, SC -- you know, that place where the secessionist movement began. The entire South had ties to the Confederacy.
This entire video takes place during the first 2 days of challenge week. They meet there cadre the next morning, that is when they bring the intensity. This video does not represent the school well because there is no cadre.
Teaching the students to not look at instructors and stare straight forward was very effective for me. It encouraged me to stop judging people so much. If America converts all public and private schools into a military academy structure like this, would it help everyone grow up better? Less laziness? Less bullying? Less school shootings? More willing to work when they become adults? Outwork the disciplined Chinese work force? What do you all think? Students with learning disabilities would be placed into a separate unit with more flexibility and attention. Students with autism can surprisingly be successful as well. What do you all think?
I was Rat at VMI this past August. I was there for 10 days. Sounds pretty weak, i know. Made it through hell week just fine but that about did it for me. Being a student in a top-notch education system coupled with the challenges of life on the Rat line was more than what I was prepared to deal with. Hats off to the guys and gals who stick with it and make it through, because these schools are no joke.
Were/Are you both planning to go into the military after? Because I do not understand why anyone would pay college tuition to be treated like that when you can go to a regular college and actually have fun or go to West Point and not pay. I do not understand why someone would pick VMI.
People get military scholarships to go to these schools. So, it isn't usually people just coming here paying full cost to not join. Also, these schools have great academics and alumni networks. VMI is the #5 public school in the nation. It certainly isn't for everyone, but people have different priorities and passions. Some people say it keeps them focused as well, instead of partying and females everywhere.@@NikkiDoesStufff
I can’t imagine how this must have felt to the combat veterans going here to go mustang. Imagine being an actual war fighter getting yelled at by these college kids 😂
It reminds me of the fact that Audie Murphy briefly considered attending West Point after the war. That would be a sight - seeing a cadet chewing him out with a Medal of Honor around his neck.
Rarely, if ever, have prior military attend as Cadets. There us a robust veteran day program where they attend class with Cadets, but are not in the Corps. Navy and Marines also send Enlisted Commissioning Program active duty, but while they wear their service uniform l, they are also day students.
As an alumnus, I laughed at the part where the Commandant said that hazing would result in expulsion. If that were the case, very few members of the Corps of Cadets would remain. Also, I doubt that alumni protested against the Confederate flag being in the chapel.
I don’t blame that kid for laughing at him. I would’ve laughed too. He sounds as scary as a chihuahua. I wouldn’t have put him in the front lines he’s not intimidating at all just annoying.
It should be noted, none of these cadets are acting as cadre, this is an in processing day followed by two days of orientation. Cadre period was not mentioned or really shown here.
“I’m not your friend don’t say thank you to me” has to be one of the most stupid statements I heard in this video. That seems like a direct conflict with what they’re teaching there & basically saying don’t be respectful to your peers or higher ups.
Yeah I agree, I would find it more respectful if someone says thank you. That's usually how it is in our society anyway, not saying thanks just comes off as rude.
One thing I wonder about is whether all the students really want to be there. It's not hard to imagine parents telling a troublemaking teen that the only way they'll pay for college is if he goes to the Citadel, in the hopes that the discipline might straighten him out.
Only the cadets that are there actually want to be there. Nobody can force someone to go and successfully graduate. The people that can't or don't want to do it, leave.
@@R32R38 It's possible, when I was there though, I only ever met 1 guy during hell week that was there that was just on the fence about being there. Wasn't even forced but just wasn't sure that's where he really wanted to be. It is more often than not people who can't take the mental and physical strain hell week takes on your body and mind. It's like being put into a pressure cooker. "Artificial Stress" is the word to use. If you're on the fence about being there, or forced to be there you aren't there for long. No amount of outside pressure will keep you there. You have to want it yourself.
As a 1979 graduate, it's pretty obvious a number of those commenting immaturely on the video needed this type of structure and discipline when they were younger. Kudos to my alma mater. It has changed but everything evolves. It stays true to its mission.
Just remember it's nothing personal and the upperclassmen may seem harsh but they are your advocate to groom you for success and help get you through this. If you survive the freshman year you'll understand completely or you won't be there.
He is? The stress the cadets are subjected to helps them make good decisons when the real stress shows up... Combat. You think people should be soft to everyone and not prepare them for what they will face? I'd rather go to war with folks who thrived in stressful situations. Join a Country Club if you're looking for friends.
When I went to the Citadel for a task with the Marine Corps, I found the environment rather strange. 1. I’ve never been on a college campus so I had no clue where things would be, definitely took some time to get used to. 2. The craziest thing to me was that the barracks doors were all unlocked. We had no keys, so unless someone was in the room all of our belongings were left unattended. I hope they give their “knobs” and other cadets keys to their rooms. The food was rather subpar. I spent a lot of money on DoorDash. And the weather, 95 degrees with 90% humidity at 9am. Thank god we were inside most of the day
@@Simone-oo2ibpeople do all of those things there. It’s just about not getting caught nowadays. And if you do get caught, you gotta hope that the person doesn’t pull you. The honor code’s a joke at this school.
@@eyebrawler6567 That falls on the leadership. The only reason l can see to be a cadet now is if you’re a contract. There’s so many c/o 2027 non-contract that aren’t going back. I was just told a TAC is an alcoholic and drinks on campus. There can’t be honor if there’s failing leadership at the top. The Cadre has really failed them.
@@kenyazboston8958 I'm pretty much old enough to be to be these kid's father. I'm not seeking their approval or buying into their authority for the sake of it. That's kind of my point. Inside their bubble this stuff works. And that's fine if that's what they want to do. But when dealing with grown adults who think and have life experience, it just doesn't have an effect.
@@airline_peanutsThink and have life experience isn’t exactly what the esteemed US Armed forces is looking for, but for what they want this works fine.
Citadel cadets go thru as much fuss and fumble as Annapolis, if not worse. A Citadel graduate can become a very fine Navy officer. Might retire at Rear Admiral or better. Excellent education by a long shot.
Anyone could become a excellent Navy officer. The Cadets at the Citadel going through more unnecessary fuss and fumble if that's what you mean. But I would question the judgment of someone that thinks playing pretend military for four years is a better idea than at least being in the actual military at a service academy. Even if, of course, the academies are not the full picture of what being in the military is like.
Imagine being a Marine or Soldier that went through real boot camp or basic training with real drill instructors and drill sergeants screaming at you 24/7 and then getting yelled at by a pimple faced 20 year old
Thanks for this video. My son is 16 and asked about The Citadel. I showed him this video and within the first 5 seconds saw that little girl yelling a the new cadet “why are you smiling” he was like “Nope, I’m good”. At any other college, this behavior would be considered hazing.
I receive nonstop humor when cadets order other cadets at military academies. After commissioning, if they actually complete final training, reality is revealed.
As a mom of a fourth year cadet, and this years Regimental Deputy Commander, I can tell you that knob year was awfully hard… but he has learned he has no limits to what he can endure. He has learned to manage his time, his work and people. He has had a whole world opened to him of mentorship and opportunities. It’s a challenging environment but it creates principled leaders in the end.
Have you ever done or would you ever make a video about creating a coast guard drill instructor? Similar to the other branches? Just a suggestion, no pressure.
on 0:34 there is a cadet wearing a blue pin on his uniform. I have the same pin in bronse and it a Dutch military pin. (for sports) I just wonder where this fellow got his. (I got mine serving in the Dutch army and it is called MLV.)
The funniest part is that people on the outside never understand the true molding process that is the Citadel. They see it as college students yelling at college students. Wannabe military. That’s not what the Citadel is about. It’s about creating better citizens and instilling leadership values. The Citadel takes individuals from all walks of life which means they have to break them down to be moldable like clay and create them anew as disciplined and trained citizens of our nation. The military aspect is there as a stressor to help cadets learn to handle complex and stressful environments without crumbling as soon as many would. All in all, it’s an experience few outside would understand the difficulty but also the pride that comes with being a Citadel cadet and eventually alumni.
Yeah, no. It is the pretend military. And not only that, you get to pay for the pleasure of going to that school. At least the real service academies pay you a monthly stipend while providing you with actual military experiences.
Citadel Cadet here. Yeah no it’s a wannabe military college where once you’re no longer a knob you learn how to 60% bully future knobs then 40% actually teach them shit that’s not even useful outside of the school. Standards practically don’t exist for anyone that’s not a freshmen. If I could go back in time I’d just go to a normal college or enlist like I originally wanted to do before my parents sent me here. This place makes you tougher, but also makes you even less likely to put up with people’s shit due to how many power tripping 20 year olds you have to deal with. The whole “Growing in leadership and discipline” thing is just a mask that covers up what actually happens. I’ve had cadet *officers* in my company lose rank for hazing and bringing alchohol into battalion. If anything it’s made some people bigger d heads or turn out more aggressive than they were before they came to the school. Very few actually change for the better. And Alumni just become cocky a holes that talk about “How hard I had it when I was a cadet!”.
@@eyebrawler6567 As a Citadel Alumni, I’m not saying it’s going to be the best thing ever. You’re going to have a lot of examples of bad leadership. But you’ll also have plenty of examples of good leadership. Outside of Disneyland, you have good, bad and mediocre leadership all around you wherever you go. In the “simulation” that is the Citadel, it allows you to make mistakes and work on your leadership skills. Not everybody improves them. Some get worse. But others, who genuinely seek to get something out the experience, work on themselves. A lot of the discipline you find at the Citadel starts your knob year when you get set on a schedule. It’s up to you the rest of your time there to keep up and improve your self discipline after a framework has been given. Some companies didn’t put up shit and others didn’t care. Luck of the draw on that unfortunately. It’s a good experience regardless to help you improve yourself and learn what not to do as well as what to improve on before you get into the real world where mistakes mean lives, time, and money rather than cons or tours.
Tuition is on Google, which has increased from 24k when I was there a year (2014-2018), to around 36k/yr this year. My cousin is a knob this year. Knob tuition is higher than Soph-Snr due to having to pay for all the uniforms you have to acquire. State pays about 8% of funding needs, the rest is provided by donors and alumni.
I was about to go here for college and enlisted in the Marines instead in the early 2010s. Glad I just enlisted tbh and actually got to have the full military experience. At least I got hazed and fucked with by people with experience.
You made the right choice, I'd rather have someone with true military experience scream in my face than some 20 year old who thinks they know what they're talking about. I'm sorry but the power really does get to the heads of the upperclassmen, I know several people who went to military colleges and they all say the arrogance and egotistical attitude of the upperclassmen was the worst part besides the physical challenges.
I’ll never understand how cadets/midshipmen get hazed by their peers. Like these upperclassmen act like drill instructors. I could never take someone that’s like a year older than me seriously vs a 12 year GySgt Sergeant Instructor. It just does not compare
I agree, I'd laugh in the upperclassman's face and tell him off. It's one thing to be yelled at by someone with true experience and it's easier to respect that too, someone who is a year or two with no experience yelling at me wouldn't go well and I would probably get kicked out for that reason.
@@devonspain620 I did. And I can tell you one thing. Well, more than that but one thing is certain above any other piece of knowledge. 15th Finance Battalion at Fort Hood (0r whatever they're calling it now) is the most incompetent organization on earth
@@devonspain620- no kidding. I did recruit training at Great Lakes in 1981. I don’t recall it being a “pleasant” experience, especially being only seventeen. I survived though and went on to serve six years. No regrets. 😉
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respect to the cadet at the end that wanted to try and help the cadets ease into their first year
Leadership comes in many different forms and styles. It takes a tremendous amount of courage for that leader to take a different approach.
"Cadet McClain, I noticed you did not participate in Hell Night. Why?" "Well, sir, I didn't really like it when it was done to me and I didn't want to do it to anyone else."
Give me a break. You think the enemy is going to cut any breaks. Stop with the woke garbage. It's not about feelings.
@@stevesteve5804 lemme guess you’re over the age of 30, a boomer, and constantly uses the word woke. Shit Is getting cringe atp also this is citadel , not the marine corps
Yeah I actually really liked the way he had a firm tone but remained polite and respectful. That's how it should be since you really don't need to be screaming and going on power trips to control freshmen.
It looks like a bunch of 20 year olds yelling at 18 year olds.
It is. And it’s awesome
Explain?
@@BurtonGuster57 Basically, people who haven’t done shit or dick yelling at other people who haven’t done shit or dick either. At least on the enlisted side (And OCS) we are trained by people who’ve deployed, served their country and experienced the military.
@@highlordfragbag7912 So in this situation these kids and instructors haven’t done shit lol?
@@BurtonGuster57 no
The guy at the 20 minute mark is gold. What an amazing young man. His parents should be proud. He is world changer.
Because in war the enemy is going to be so kind and polite. Right?
I want men to be tough, nothing can break them. Not even if you hurt his feelings. 🙄
@@Evyeve6582I dunno why you’re assuming cadre should be your enemy.
Calling somebody son, when you are barely older is ridiculous
lmfaooo its some Lord of the Flies shit
I laughed at that also, along with his theatre like command presence. No wonder why the knob was smiling at him.
Its used as a term of hierarchy. The individual that used it has been there in their shoes. The Knob is like a baby, not knowing anything going on. Its not meant to be disrespectful.
LMFAOOOO I SAID THE SAME SHI. 🤣
You would have to be there to understand before you reply to a bs video
AS an officer myself, Cadet Tiberghien, you are going places!! Duty, honor and respec. No need to yell
That’s his job, “Artificial Stress”… he’s awesome!
Trying to raise strong kids here. As a mom of a cadet. I expect them to be tough, because my son is tougher. In war, no one will break him. ❤
Trying to raise strong kids here. If you are soft they will be soft. This school is not for everyone. As a mom of a cadet, I know my son is tough, but I hope they make him tougher. In this world one must be strong to survive.
Respectfully, sir, if you really are an officer. You shouldn't be advertising yourself as an officer on the internet. OPSEC.
@@breadknight2259 oh shut up dork
Cadet Tiberghien, keep up the great attitude, maintain the warm smile and never, ever forget how you started...
I hope you reach as high as possible and bring about a positive change...
US Army veteran
hats off to any enlisted veteran that goes to a military college and manages to put up with these guys trying to haze them.
Yea theyd be silly to subject themselves to this from 19 year olds after being in the real world/real military. Just go to any normal college lol.
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Pretty sure this is for normal 18-19 year olds that want some form of discipline. Not veterans that already went through boot camp/basic training and know basic military bearing and discipline
@@rusty7984 It's a bit of both the citadel has a large and well-put-together ROTC program.
I saw a pic from West Point about 10 years ago of a cadet with a CIB and Airborne wings and of course probably around 6 ribbons....If I was an upper classman i would have been intimidated by him deep down as i was yelling at him due to me knowing i was a drug store cowboy yelling at a true blue bas ass
Not sure why a vet would want to go to the Citadel for school.
2:55 😂😂😂 Bro was hitting it one last time 😂😂
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I laughed when I saw those eyes 🤣
That eyes got me
Lmao he had to hit the Penjamin one more time 😂
Him and Snoop Dogg had one final outing!
Cadet Tiberghien keep up your awesome awesome attitude when you become an officer you’re already a gentleman and everyone under your command will appreciate that
....He was in my company....He didn't go into the military
@@Jake_the_lad man I hope he’s doing amazingly in his career he deserves it.
If only they could ever discipline their horrendous football team this well….citadel football needs a lot of work
Can’t be losing to VMI of all people
The racism was the secret sauce
Lmao😂
gee, not like WePo is a football powerhouse
In USA highest paid person at university is normally football Coach
The “find your name” guy talking about shock and awe is fairly funny
I love Mr. Temple. He was in my company, last year!
Also this is an old reupload
@@SlowedBloom9188 smack
This is how it's been for generation. My grandfather went there with this type of welcome, as did my dad 30 years later. I never even thought of attending. It creates outstanding Cadets.
It creates the biggest chach officers in the army
I was born, raised and served in the USAF. Cadet Tiberghien, if you go on to serve as an officer in the US military, your attitude will cause people to follow you into hell and I'm sure that with your training and education, you will be able to bring them back home, one way or an other. USA!
Common tibs dub
The black badge over his left pocket denotes that he is Army Scholarship/Contract. So he will serve in the Army after graduation.
Lots of people here are army contracts
A Citadel graduate did not fire the first shot...Citadel Cadets fired the first shot on Ft. Sumpter.
Partially correct. Citadel Cadets manning Ft Moultrie at the entrance to the Charleston Harbor fired on The Star of The West, a Union supply ship that was attempting to reach Ft. Sumter to resupply and bolster it's garrison of Union troops. These were the shots that started the Civil War. The action is commemorated by a gold star on one side of the Band of Gold, the ring that Citadel Graduates earn.
Exactly.... I lmao the guy graduated from West Point. Smh journalism is a joke.
I'm still surprised my brother made it through 4 years of this and still am not completely clear on what happened toward the end of high school that made him think, "yeah, this is what I want." But I respect it. He was a completely different person after knob year. Ever since he's been straight laced, buff, deep voiced, no nonsense, hard working model of a soldier and citizen.
he sounds like a complete tool
I cringed watching this😊
Hats off to that guy who spoke Japanese
We got a good chunk of Taiwanese and Thai cadets at the school that come here to do their cadet stuff
It would be pretty scary being screamed at in Japanese while another guy sticks a carrot up your butt
Ties to the Confederacy? No shit. It's located in Charleston, SC -- you know, that place where the secessionist movement began. The entire South had ties to the Confederacy.
Yeah sure, but it has more ties to the confederacy than many other Southern schools.
Yeah. I guess it could have given more context for people who were unfamiliar with why there were some race issues.
Here's a fact that most people didn't know: Citadel cadets fired the first shots to start the Civil War.
Interviewed the most relaxed bat in the corps.
4:15 "Your disrespecting a future US Army Soldier" when he grew up
He really does give that vibe 😂
You know when you call someone a "Knob" in the UK or Australia they aren't referring to a door knob.
So what? The Citadel isn't in the UK or Australia. The meaning of a term somewhere else is completely irrelevant.
But also the swear word knob.
That’s probably the real meaning. ‘Door knob’ is just the cover story.
As a graduate of the citadel I can confirm that “doorknob” isn’t the real meaning
As an American, the first thing I thought of was the UK meaning of the word “knob.” Hilarious 😂
This entire video takes place during the first 2 days of challenge week. They meet there cadre the next morning, that is when they bring the intensity. This video does not represent the school well because there is no cadre.
As former enlisted, It is really fun to watch this LARP.
Yeah it's crazy they think they're scary or something my drill sergeants in 2005 were about 500x more intimidating
These kids will be successful, it’s good to test yourself and to go against the grain to better your character
Out of all of the mil academy officers I worked with. I enjoyed the Citadel and VMI guys the most. Definitely more down to earth than the others.
THEY GOT MY BOY ON THE THUMBNAIL
Teaching the students to not look at instructors and stare straight forward was very effective for me. It encouraged me to stop judging people so much. If America converts all public and private schools into a military academy structure like this, would it help everyone grow up better? Less laziness? Less bullying? Less school shootings? More willing to work when they become adults? Outwork the disciplined Chinese work force? What do you all think? Students with learning disabilities would be placed into a separate unit with more flexibility and attention. Students with autism can surprisingly be successful as well.
What do you all think?
I was Rat at VMI this past August. I was there for 10 days. Sounds pretty weak, i know. Made it through hell week just fine but that about did it for me. Being a student in a top-notch education system coupled with the challenges of life on the Rat line was more than what I was prepared to deal with. Hats off to the guys and gals who stick with it and make it through, because these schools are no joke.
which company were you? i’m a rat at vmi rn
@@unclelo05I was with India
Were/Are you both planning to go into the military after? Because I do not understand why anyone would pay college tuition to be treated like that when you can go to a regular college and actually have fun or go to West Point and not pay. I do not understand why someone would pick VMI.
People get military scholarships to go to these schools. So, it isn't usually people just coming here paying full cost to not join. Also, these schools have great academics and alumni networks. VMI is the #5 public school in the nation. It certainly isn't for everyone, but people have different priorities and passions. Some people say it keeps them focused as well, instead of partying and females everywhere.@@NikkiDoesStufff
@@rileyalfonso6091 interesting. Fair enough.
I can’t imagine how this must have felt to the combat veterans going here to go mustang. Imagine being an actual war fighter getting yelled at by these college kids 😂
It reminds me of the fact that Audie Murphy briefly considered attending West Point after the war. That would be a sight - seeing a cadet chewing him out with a Medal of Honor around his neck.
Rarely, if ever, have prior military attend as Cadets. There us a robust veteran day program where they attend class with Cadets, but are not in the Corps. Navy and Marines also send Enlisted Commissioning Program active duty, but while they wear their service uniform l, they are also day students.
Doesnt happen
@@LuvSubbin I don't think that would have happened, Murphy was a war hero on the front of every newspaper, every man in the country respected him
@@LuvSubbinActually Audie Murphy's wounds prevented him from attending West Point...
As an alumnus, I laughed at the part where the Commandant said that hazing would result in expulsion. If that were the case, very few members of the Corps of Cadets would remain. Also, I doubt that alumni protested against the Confederate flag being in the chapel.
citadel grad here, I can assure you it gets significantly worse once things happen about 10 hours after this.
19:40 the way my boy tibby got rejected lmfao
2:55 that dude had a very deep and saturated weekend 😂
The 1SG’s tone at 9:27 was more annoying than stress inducing. But it’s good to see that the corps is still tough!
This is an old reupload
@@kishascapeno it isn't. I'm a knob here and some of those people are literally in my company.
yeah that dude is nauseating
He’s from band company originally so
I don’t blame that kid for laughing at him. I would’ve laughed too. He sounds as scary as a chihuahua. I wouldn’t have put him in the front lines he’s not intimidating at all just annoying.
9:14 Lmao! 🤣 There's always someone who can't help themselves and smile like an idiot. They'll learn or get roasted in front of everyone endlessly 😆
Honestly he probably heard someone say something funny and started laughing. That laugh dissolved very quickly though lol.
It should be noted, none of these cadets are acting as cadre, this is an in processing day followed by two days of orientation. Cadre period was not mentioned or really shown here.
The cadets here are the cadre. The 4th class system does not start the first day.
“I’m not your friend don’t say thank you to me” has to be one of the most stupid statements I heard in this video. That seems like a direct conflict with what they’re teaching there & basically saying don’t be respectful to your peers or higher ups.
Their* and that’s all part of the first class system. They are feed artificial stress.
He's inducing stress with wordplay.. that is his duty. Cadets will eventually learn to thrive in stressful situations.. that is the goal.
Yeah I agree, I would find it more respectful if someone says thank you. That's usually how it is in our society anyway, not saying thanks just comes off as rude.
"Permission to touch?" "Sir no sir" " Aaaight"
Congratulations to my son Ryan for completing is knob year with strength and determination. So very proud of how strong he is. ❤
One thing I wonder about is whether all the students really want to be there. It's not hard to imagine parents telling a troublemaking teen that the only way they'll pay for college is if he goes to the Citadel, in the hopes that the discipline might straighten him out.
Only the cadets that are there actually want to be there. Nobody can force someone to go and successfully graduate. The people that can't or don't want to do it, leave.
@@besteffortint I would not be surprised if the cadets who drop out early are disproportionately the forced-to-go ones.
@@R32R38 It's possible, when I was there though, I only ever met 1 guy during hell week that was there that was just on the fence about being there. Wasn't even forced but just wasn't sure that's where he really wanted to be. It is more often than not people who can't take the mental and physical strain hell week takes on your body and mind. It's like being put into a pressure cooker. "Artificial Stress" is the word to use. If you're on the fence about being there, or forced to be there you aren't there for long. No amount of outside pressure will keep you there. You have to want it yourself.
Sum are either offered a court sentence order or this
@@UmissedThis1I believe your mistaking us with the army and marines. The citadel does not receive juvenile offenders.
That kid at 2:54 looks high AF lol
That guy at the end in the store definitely acts the most military out of anyone there
As a 1979 graduate, it's pretty obvious a number of those commenting immaturely on the video needed this type of structure and discipline when they were younger. Kudos to my alma mater. It has changed but everything evolves. It stays true to its mission.
10:49 had me laughing 😂😂
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NPC
Bro got sent there by his parents 😂
"At Dawns Early Light," a great Colombo episode was filmed here. Gives a good historical account of what the school was like in the 70s.
"you know where you're at son?"
Bro you're the same age lmfao
Yeah I found that weird. I would've sarcastically been like nope lol.
Just remember it's nothing personal and the upperclassmen may seem harsh but they are your advocate to groom you for success and help get you through this. If you survive the freshman year you'll understand completely or you won't be there.
5:56 The disappointment in "You showed up in slides?" 😂
2:55 bro is in another dimension 😂
I would go to war with Tiberghien, he's a leader...
He is? The stress the cadets are subjected to helps them make good decisons when the real stress shows up... Combat. You think people should be soft to everyone and not prepare them for what they will face? I'd rather go to war with folks who thrived in stressful situations. Join a Country Club if you're looking for friends.
That ginger Alex guy is so adorable and pleasant. May he become a big cheese and shape the school with his kind heart and wisdom.
i deliver here for doordash all the time these guys look dead all day lol
Permission to touch is the best. Props to that guy for being nice
When I went to the Citadel for a task with the Marine Corps, I found the environment rather strange. 1. I’ve never been on a college campus so I had no clue where things would be, definitely took some time to get used to. 2. The craziest thing to me was that the barracks doors were all unlocked. We had no keys, so unless someone was in the room all of our belongings were left unattended. I hope they give their “knobs” and other cadets keys to their rooms. The food was rather subpar. I spent a lot of money on DoorDash. And the weather, 95 degrees with 90% humidity at 9am. Thank god we were inside most of the day
“A cadet does not lie, cheat, or steal nor tolerate those who do” is literally on the wall on a bronze plaque
@@Simone-oo2ibpeople do all of those things there. It’s just about not getting caught nowadays. And if you do get caught, you gotta hope that the person doesn’t pull you. The honor code’s a joke at this school.
@@eyebrawler6567 That falls on the leadership. The only reason l can see to be a cadet now is if you’re a contract. There’s so many c/o 2027 non-contract that aren’t going back. I was just told a TAC is an alcoholic and drinks on campus. There can’t be honor if there’s failing leadership at the top. The Cadre has really failed them.
Ngl i haven’t seen the stars and bars on campus or in the chapel, the got rid of the flags a few yrs back
Lmao the “Ballin Hustle” kid at 11:49
2:55 bro stoned 💀
The smile dissolved quick
This type of stuff only works on 18 yr old kids who have never left home.
You should go and apply
@@kenyazboston8958 I'm pretty much old enough to be to be these kid's father. I'm not seeking their approval or buying into their authority for the sake of it. That's kind of my point. Inside their bubble this stuff works. And that's fine if that's what they want to do. But when dealing with grown adults who think and have life experience, it just doesn't have an effect.
@@airline_peanutsThink and have life experience isn’t exactly what the esteemed US Armed forces is looking for, but for what they want this works fine.
5:57 You gotta be kidding me !!!! You got accepted to a military school and showed up in slides. SMH
I’m sure he paid for that mistake!
Honestly even I was wondering how he made a blunder like that and how he was able to walk that far without being caught.
I like these kinda places, I was a sea cadet and did boot camp. It was a good life lesson!
It'd be cool to see one on the U.S. Merchant Marine Academy.
Kappa Pi Sigma
The only cadre you see is a few seconds of them at 0:27
Citadel cadets go thru as much fuss and fumble as Annapolis, if not worse. A Citadel graduate can become a very fine Navy officer. Might retire at Rear Admiral or better. Excellent education by a long shot.
Anyone could become a excellent Navy officer. The Cadets at the Citadel going through more unnecessary fuss and fumble if that's what you mean. But I would question the judgment of someone that thinks playing pretend military for four years is a better idea than at least being in the actual military at a service academy. Even if, of course, the academies are not the full picture of what being in the military is like.
Boy, when that single bead of sweat ran down the poor ginger's face... I felt that.
Do the Virginia Tech Corps of cadets!!!! They do this in the middle of a civilian college!! Much more interesting!!!!
This video had me laughing all the way through. I couldn't take those baby face sophmores yelling at the freshman seriously. Glorified Jrotc lol
Brace for 9 months straight, then you can talk. Actually, better yet, get your ring.
Yeah, that's why we're here and you're not. We take it seriously and we work hard every day for them because they work hard every day for us.
Glorified and organized fraternity pledging. It’s the same shit but you get fancy uniforms.
Imagine being a Marine or Soldier that went through real boot camp or basic training with real drill instructors and drill sergeants screaming at you 24/7 and then getting yelled at by a pimple faced 20 year old
@@tbird1991alright, knob
5:57 you showed up in slides had me rolling
POV: you didn’t get into West Point.
West Point prepares cadets for commissioning into the United States ARMY! POV if you want to go to other service
"I just got randomly selected, sir."
Not randomly selected, you got voluntold, Cadet Joerger.
9:15 alright buddy, calm down and don't forget that west point exists. citadel is nowhere near the "toughest military academy in the nation"
Thanks for this video. My son is 16 and asked about The Citadel. I showed him this video and within the first 5 seconds saw that little girl yelling a the new cadet “why are you smiling” he was like “Nope, I’m good”.
At any other college, this behavior would be considered hazing.
I love The Citadel! Great school and it produces great men and women who are prepared for life
LOOOOOOOOL those interviews... good lord
I receive nonstop humor when cadets order other cadets at military academies. After commissioning, if they actually complete final training, reality is revealed.
As a mom of a fourth year cadet, and this years Regimental Deputy Commander, I can tell you that knob year was awfully hard… but he has learned he has no limits to what he can endure. He has learned to manage his time, his work and people. He has had a whole world opened to him of mentorship and opportunities. It’s a challenging environment but it creates principled leaders in the end.
The film location of Columbo “By Dawn’s Early Light”.
The most unmotivated sounding guy “ you are the most motivated speaker you motivate me.”
Based Tiberghien
15:55 He's a knob polisher lol
Haha! 😂
Mad respect to everyone. Could not do this myself
The school, unlike other institutions that detests and destroys their past, the Citadel embraces and improves it. God speed to the students
DUde at 9:22 this guy doesn't realize West Point even harder to get through
From my understanding, I think West Point may be the hardest military college to get into and the hardest to graduate from.
Have you ever done or would you ever make a video about creating a coast guard drill instructor? Similar to the other branches? Just a suggestion, no pressure.
Coast Guard boot camp is brutal. much worse than the Marines. At least the Marine DI's want you to succeed.
“Do you know where you’re at son?” 😂😂😂😂 what a clown.
"Artificial stress"??? I still remember my basic in the mid 90's and there was nothing artificial about the stress. Lmao!
3:17, such quote is a quote, notthing more nothing less
God bless these young men and women!
The way his eyes lit up when the cadet started speaking Korean was pretty cool. Beat army
bro it was mentioned like seven times that he was speaking Japanese, wtf
on 0:34 there is a cadet wearing a blue pin on his uniform. I have the same pin in bronse and it a Dutch military pin. (for sports) I just wonder where this fellow got his. (I got mine serving in the Dutch army and it is called MLV.)
There’s a Dutch Royal Air Force Major who works as a TAC Officer at the Citadel that facilitates Training to earn the Dutch Badge
The funniest part is that people on the outside never understand the true molding process that is the Citadel. They see it as college students yelling at college students. Wannabe military. That’s not what the Citadel is about. It’s about creating better citizens and instilling leadership values. The Citadel takes individuals from all walks of life which means they have to break them down to be moldable like clay and create them anew as disciplined and trained citizens of our nation. The military aspect is there as a stressor to help cadets learn to handle complex and stressful environments without crumbling as soon as many would. All in all, it’s an experience few outside would understand the difficulty but also the pride that comes with being a Citadel cadet and eventually alumni.
“Wannabe military” that’s exactly what it is.
Yeah, no. It is the pretend military. And not only that, you get to pay for the pleasure of going to that school. At least the real service academies pay you a monthly stipend while providing you with actual military experiences.
Citadel Cadet here. Yeah no it’s a wannabe military college where once you’re no longer a knob you learn how to 60% bully future knobs then 40% actually teach them shit that’s not even useful outside of the school. Standards practically don’t exist for anyone that’s not a freshmen. If I could go back in time I’d just go to a normal college or enlist like I originally wanted to do before my parents sent me here. This place makes you tougher, but also makes you even less likely to put up with people’s shit due to how many power tripping 20 year olds you have to deal with.
The whole “Growing in leadership and discipline” thing is just a mask that covers up what actually happens. I’ve had cadet *officers* in my company lose rank for hazing and bringing alchohol into battalion. If anything it’s made some people bigger d heads or turn out more aggressive than they were before they came to the school. Very few actually change for the better. And Alumni just become cocky a holes that talk about “How hard I had it when I was a cadet!”.
@@eyebrawler6567 As a Citadel Alumni, I’m not saying it’s going to be the best thing ever. You’re going to have a lot of examples of bad leadership. But you’ll also have plenty of examples of good leadership. Outside of Disneyland, you have good, bad and mediocre leadership all around you wherever you go. In the “simulation” that is the Citadel, it allows you to make mistakes and work on your leadership skills. Not everybody improves them. Some get worse. But others, who genuinely seek to get something out the experience, work on themselves. A lot of the discipline you find at the Citadel starts your knob year when you get set on a schedule. It’s up to you the rest of your time there to keep up and improve your self discipline after a framework has been given. Some companies didn’t put up shit and others didn’t care. Luck of the draw on that unfortunately. It’s a good experience regardless to help you improve yourself and learn what not to do as well as what to improve on before you get into the real world where mistakes mean lives, time, and money rather than cons or tours.
How refreshing it is to be on a college campus where respect of your country, faculty and fellow students is pervasive throughout.
1st battalion blows
The Cadet at 11:48 lmfao 💀💀💀💀💀💀
How much is the tuition? Who pays or are there subsidies? Entertaining!
Tuition is on Google, which has increased from 24k when I was there a year (2014-2018), to around 36k/yr this year. My cousin is a knob this year. Knob tuition is higher than Soph-Snr due to having to pay for all the uniforms you have to acquire. State pays about 8% of funding needs, the rest is provided by donors and alumni.
In state is around 12,000 and out of state is about almost 30
Much respect. Gig’em 👍🏻 L-2 ‘84
Rough Tough .. Real Stuff
I was about to go here for college and enlisted in the Marines instead in the early 2010s. Glad I just enlisted tbh and actually got to have the full military experience. At least I got hazed and fucked with by people with experience.
You made the right choice, I'd rather have someone with true military experience scream in my face than some 20 year old who thinks they know what they're talking about. I'm sorry but the power really does get to the heads of the upperclassmen, I know several people who went to military colleges and they all say the arrogance and egotistical attitude of the upperclassmen was the worst part besides the physical challenges.
Looks a lot like the Columbo 1974 episode, “By Dawn’s Early Light.”
It is that, very good eye.
I’ll never understand how cadets/midshipmen get hazed by their peers. Like these upperclassmen act like drill instructors. I could never take someone that’s like a year older than me seriously vs a 12 year GySgt Sergeant Instructor. It just does not compare
I agree, I'd laugh in the upperclassman's face and tell him off. It's one thing to be yelled at by someone with true experience and it's easier to respect that too, someone who is a year or two with no experience yelling at me wouldn't go well and I would probably get kicked out for that reason.
Looks a lot easier than my time at Navy boot camp in July to September 1973.
Navy 💀
Navy boot in 80s and down was no joke
@@duffelbagdrag bet you never even made it in the military son
@@devonspain620 I did. And I can tell you one thing. Well, more than that but one thing is certain above any other piece of knowledge. 15th Finance Battalion at Fort Hood (0r whatever they're calling it now) is the most incompetent organization on earth
@@devonspain620- no kidding. I did recruit training at Great Lakes in 1981. I don’t recall it being a “pleasant” experience, especially being only seventeen. I survived though and went on to serve six years. No regrets. 😉
Dude @2:55 was stress free 👍🏾