Im hopeful they will be ok because I have seen what Kookapinto has been doing with small fins on mid-lengths. I didn't like the Machado (version 1) quad set so there is a chance this works well. I wont fault it if it's not ideal because they are for good waves. I will let you know how it goes!
I did put (by mistake ) the bigger fins back on my board fcs2 and it worked fine for me. Than everybody tell me it was the other way around and it work fine too
Thank you for verifying this. I suspected it was possible to do. It would be good to test more and see what you ultimately prefer. Im sure the fin design will contribute to this.
Until these become readily available here in Australia... especially in futures... could you recommend a fin combination, such as front & rear sizings to achieve the same results? Eg. Perhaps large rears and side bites running in the forward slots! Are there fins existing that would achieve that?? Also, are there any places here that can make / replicate ... either Glassing or 3d printing this setup... as I saw the dimensions shared on the MFC site??
For the wave at 2:09 , It seems that you didn’t even get to the wave face and of course no maneuvers at all. I would say you might need proper wave and skills to test “big wave fins”. Cheers.
that was filmed the next day and the swell had dropped a lot overnight. Kai Lenny says he tested these fins from 2 feet to 80 feet and they blew his mind. I agree they can be surfed in all sized waves. ruclips.net/video/LioKLOpBlLs/видео.htmlsi=KQbhpLouevIAb3nd&t=15 Have a nice day.
@@blinksurf My point is you were saying “6ft, fast, smooth” with the footage of you stuck in the whitewater. That really bugs me whether it’s the wave or the skill level. As for Kai Lenny’s video, he showed the exact footage of what he was talking about. No problem to me.
I get what you are saying@@sway8938 YOu can relax because that footage was not from that particular wave i was describing . Its the only footage I had and I thought it might make the video more interesting to watch. I filmed the footage the day after because my GoPro jammed up the first day. That bugged me too at the time since we don't get large waves that often where I surf. I'm just sharing my own experience with the fins and in my opinion as an intermediate (at best) surfer, the fins felt really good for me. Take it for what it's worth. Hopefully next cyclone swell I'll get better footage and make more videos. Take care.
FWIW I know the videos need footage. So, I paid a guy to film me and he missed 2/3 of the wave I caught on another board test I was doing. Very frustrating, Thats why I bought a GoPro. Expect better footage in the future. I'm working specifically on solving this.@@sway8938 Thanks for your feedback.
@@blinksurf No worries. I reckon surfing footage is crucial for gear reviews. Filming on shore is even more important than GoPro POV, so good luck on the next filmer.
Just out of curiosity, what is it about the mach ado fins that you found terrible? I'm not an advance surfer (more intermediate) and I have been using the 2nd gen machado fins on my pod mod and I really am enjoying them. Perhaps, due to my current journey in learning turns I am not sensitive enough to the idiosyncrasies of fins.
@christophegautier1294 I tried them in FIrewire seaside, seaside and beyond, a Christenson Nautilus, a SMTH Humanoid and what I found was they were very stiff and felt slow compared to other fins. Important to note - I am talking about generation 1 version and I noticed they have scrapped those fins and replaced them with a newer gen 2 version in 2022. Obvs Rob is a legend and can surf well on anything. In this video he talks about trimming some surface area off the front fins and making them curvier ruclips.net/video/GD2rAdzUXns/видео.html
@@blinksurf yeah! btw I wasn't a fan of the machado quad either, but after a few surfs, they work better in small and mushy conditions, and really great with normal rear fins on clean walls :D I surf them on a fish with a really wide tail.
It works and would suit larger waves. I took it one step further and tested the JJF Big wave fins on the Seaside as well. Im about to publish a Seaside fins video as well. They are not designed or recommended for that. Here is that JJF with Seaside video: ruclips.net/video/AFRclTZes7E/видео.html
@@dynodin81 Just for clarity - the Seaside fin review wont have the Kai but the outcome is - the bigger the waves, the more the Seaside is happy with less fin.
This may be your truth and that's cool. It's been the opposite in my experience. Different fins can dramatically change how some surfboards feel to me. That in turn has helped me surf better. When you lock in on the perfect fins for the board everything becomes easier. In my other video about fins, many of the commenters came back to say they changed fins and experienced better surfing.
@@blinksurf I have had boards where I tried several different configurations and different fins within those configurations and they all sucked FOR ME until I found the “magic” combination. And some of them were boards that were not designed for the combo that ultimately worked for me. Yeah, fins make a HUGE difference.
I think those “twinzers” will go great in the Seaside. Even faster, more control. Will feel a lot more stable
Im hopeful they will be ok because I have seen what Kookapinto has been doing with small fins on mid-lengths. I didn't like the Machado (version 1) quad set so there is a chance this works well. I wont fault it if it's not ideal because they are for good waves. I will let you know how it goes!
I did put (by mistake ) the bigger fins back on my board fcs2 and it worked fine for me. Than everybody tell me it was the other way around and it work fine too
Thank you for verifying this. I suspected it was possible to do. It would be good to test more and see what you ultimately prefer. Im sure the fin design will contribute to this.
Keen to give these fins a go!
thanks for the info on how to buy them.
enjoy!
A little bit of wax helps a lot with inserting fins into the box
exactly! I should have mentioned that. Thank you.
It’s basically mimicking the setup for quad set up on our wavesailing boards.
EXACTLY! Much needed innovation from other areas. Having surfed this combo several times now I can see why it makes so much sense.
Until these become readily available here in Australia... especially in futures... could you recommend a fin combination, such as front & rear sizings to achieve the same results?
Eg. Perhaps large rears and side bites running in the forward slots!
Are there fins existing that would achieve that??
Also, are there any places here that can make / replicate ... either Glassing or 3d printing this setup... as I saw the dimensions shared on the MFC site??
yes grab some JJF Big Wave from Futures futuresfins.com.au/products/john-john-florence-big-wave-quad
Wonder how this fin works on the sharpe eye inferno FT quad surfboard when the waves get big and barreling ?
they will work. I recently put them in my 6 6 performance quad in good waves and they a brilliant.
For the wave at 2:09 , It seems that you didn’t even get to the wave face and of course no maneuvers at all. I would say you might need proper wave and skills to test “big wave fins”. Cheers.
that was filmed the next day and the swell had dropped a lot overnight. Kai Lenny says he tested these fins from 2 feet to 80 feet and they blew his mind. I agree they can be surfed in all sized waves. ruclips.net/video/LioKLOpBlLs/видео.htmlsi=KQbhpLouevIAb3nd&t=15 Have a nice day.
@@blinksurf My point is you were saying “6ft, fast, smooth” with the footage of you stuck in the whitewater. That really bugs me whether it’s the wave or the skill level.
As for Kai Lenny’s video, he showed the exact footage of what he was talking about. No problem to me.
I get what you are saying@@sway8938 YOu can relax because that footage was not from that particular wave i was describing . Its the only footage I had and I thought it might make the video more interesting to watch. I filmed the footage the day after because my GoPro jammed up the first day. That bugged me too at the time since we don't get large waves that often where I surf. I'm just sharing my own experience with the fins and in my opinion as an intermediate (at best) surfer, the fins felt really good for me. Take it for what it's worth. Hopefully next cyclone swell I'll get better footage and make more videos. Take care.
FWIW I know the videos need footage. So, I paid a guy to film me and he missed 2/3 of the wave I caught on another board test I was doing. Very frustrating, Thats why I bought a GoPro. Expect better footage in the future. I'm working specifically on solving this.@@sway8938 Thanks for your feedback.
@@blinksurf No worries. I reckon surfing footage is crucial for gear reviews. Filming on shore is even more important than GoPro POV, so good luck on the next filmer.
The machado fins are terrible! I hated mine too haha
Just out of curiosity, what is it about the mach ado fins that you found terrible? I'm not an advance surfer (more intermediate) and I have been using the 2nd gen machado fins on my pod mod and I really am enjoying them. Perhaps, due to my current journey in learning turns I am not sensitive enough to the idiosyncrasies of fins.
interesting to hear about that Pat! Thank you for sharing.
@christophegautier1294 I tried them in FIrewire seaside, seaside and beyond, a Christenson Nautilus, a SMTH Humanoid and what I found was they were very stiff and felt slow compared to other fins. Important to note - I am talking about generation 1 version and I noticed they have scrapped those fins and replaced them with a newer gen 2 version in 2022. Obvs Rob is a legend and can surf well on anything. In this video he talks about trimming some surface area off the front fins and making them curvier ruclips.net/video/GD2rAdzUXns/видео.html
Have you tried the Soar fins - Harry Quad ?
I have them and I am waiting for some good waves to arrive. They look fantastic and I am excited to get them wet!
@@blinksurf Nice! Looking forward to hear your thoughts about it 🤙🤙 :)
@@mlllllllllll120 I'll update after a good surf ! 🙌
@@blinksurf yeah! btw I wasn't a fan of the machado quad either, but after a few surfs, they work better in small and mushy conditions, and really great with normal rear fins on clean walls :D
I surf them on a fish with a really wide tail.
@@mlllllllllll120 very cool!
Are all 4 Fins foiled on one side only?
all four fins maintain an 80/20 ratio profile. It's subtle but the inside has a mild foil.
@@blinksurf Thanks!🤙🏼
🙌@@joeblow1942
How did it go on the Seaside?
It works and would suit larger waves. I took it one step further and tested the JJF Big wave fins on the Seaside as well. Im about to publish a Seaside fins video as well. They are not designed or recommended for that. Here is that JJF with Seaside video: ruclips.net/video/AFRclTZes7E/видео.html
@@blinksurf Thanks, I'll look out for the seaside with Kai fins review when it drops.
@@dynodin81 Just for clarity - the Seaside fin review wont have the Kai but the outcome is - the bigger the waves, the more the Seaside is happy with less fin.
REAL Watersports is a great enterprise. Non compensated endorsement. I buy kite gear from them if my local shops are lacking what I need.
Cool feedback. REAL Watersports will be stoked to hear this. My purchase was also completely independent and non-compensated. Loved the experience.
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Fun fact: Fins won't change your surfing one single bit ! Either you can surf well or you can't.
End of story !
Wrong! Subtle changes in fins can radically change the way a board rides. I mean radical as in night and day.
Not one single bit bro. You're riding the wrong type of surfboards if you think your fins are the part thats "holding you back".@@joeblow1942
This may be your truth and that's cool. It's been the opposite in my experience. Different fins can dramatically change how some surfboards feel to me. That in turn has helped me surf better. When you lock in on the perfect fins for the board everything becomes easier. In my other video about fins, many of the commenters came back to say they changed fins and experienced better surfing.
@@blinksurf I have had boards where I tried several different configurations and different fins within those configurations and they all sucked FOR ME until I found the “magic” combination. And some of them were boards that were not designed for the combo that ultimately worked for me. Yeah, fins make a HUGE difference.
In your head they do mate@@joeblow1942 You still surf the same tho.... badly. You just "blaming" your fins for it.... lol !