This Lady Preacher Defends Pastor Robert Morris!

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  • This Lady Preacher Defends Pastor Robert Morris!!
    In this video, a lady preacher passionately defends Pastor Robert Morris, who confessed to a serious mistake over 40 years ago. She emphasizes his life of purity and holiness since the incident and calls for equal accountability among church leaders. This discussion raises important questions about forgiveness, repentance, and double standards within the church community.
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Комментарии • 82

  • @Timothian
    @Timothian 22 дня назад +13

    1. - He committed a sexual crime against a CHILD! She was only 12 years old.
    2. - He has lied for 40 years and here is how: he has presented himself and being transparent in his “affair “ early in his ministry with a “woman” she wasn’t a woman! Multiple big named leaders have testified to this publicly. She was a child! It went on for 4 years!
    3.- Forgiveness absolutely and that’s between him and God.
    4.- Forgiveness DOES NOT ABSOLVE YOU FROM THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS!
    5. - Cindy Clemishire has conducted herself inline with the Word in going to him directly, then she went to the elders. Nothing was done. She is 100% correct in addressing it publicly. She had no other choice. Living with something like this for so many years is devastating.
    6.- How can this lady speaking her testify that he has lived a holy life for the past 40 years? She doesn’t know.
    7.- Robert Morris should have to face the consequences for his actions.
    8.- Ask yourself the question what if this were my daughter or granddaughter?
    9.- Just because he has written some great books and has been successful in ministry all these years should have zero bearing on whether or not he should have to face the consequences. Cindy Clemishire has had to suffer all of these years. Where is the justice for her?
    10.- Just watch Robert Morris will eventually come out and blame this crime that he committed on a demon or a spirit.

    • @SusanMartin-vm7zr
      @SusanMartin-vm7zr 21 день назад

      Where is the Justice for all girls that have been sexually abused? There is none. Nobody gave me justice or money to compensate.
      Cindy C. IS not better than all of us women who were sexually abused as 12 year old preteens.
      Jesus commanded us to FORGIVE.
      You have NO Bible to take Morris to law.

    • @SusanMartin-vm7zr
      @SusanMartin-vm7zr 21 день назад

      1 Corinthians 6
      Tells us not to take christians to court.
      God doesn't want Morris judged by the secular law.

    • @Mac12444
      @Mac12444 21 день назад

      @Timthian I'm always suspicious of people on RUclips who need to use a lot of words to get their point across.

    • @AubreyForever
      @AubreyForever 21 день назад

      Why don't they talk about her mother being upset, but the father?

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 20 дней назад

      @@SusanMartin-vm7zrThe pedophile is not a Christian, so that scripture does not apply. Clearly, you do not know God, you might want to consider what Jesus says about child abusers/pedophiles. Matthew 18:6

  • @bosch716
    @bosch716 21 день назад +22

    You that never sinned cast the first stone. My thoughts are with the Morris family.

    • @arceneaux66
      @arceneaux66 20 дней назад +2

      Your thoughts should be with the victim and her family.

    • @pastorshandonellis4682
      @pastorshandonellis4682 20 дней назад

      Exactly.Yes our thoughts and prayers are with the victim and family also.But people pick and choose who they want to be judged. Allegedly this Brother molested a 12 year old girl.If he did that, then he is wrong point blank.But we say nothing of the millions of babies aborted aka killed in the womb in America every day. GOD Call it murder.I don't care what congress say.So why are these women and doctors who are baby killers not locked up?But as the Church we overlook baby killing and say, Oh you had 3 abortions 10 years ago?That's okay, JESUS Forgives you, come on and serve in ministry.We don't call them baby killers anymore. We call them saved.But with this brother, they want to call him a molester, even though it was almost 40 years ago. 😆 If GOD don't call him a molester, and if GOD forgave him, who are we to bring it up?There are a whole lot of people that should be locked up for committing crimes against others. Police officers who have assaulted especially black people, and they still have their jobs and are free.And I could go on and on.Many in the Church can be hypocrites. They point out other sins, while excusing their own sin. And overlooking others.

  • @durz0111.
    @durz0111. 21 день назад +9

    Ohh hush down woman.There is a massive difference between just a sin and a sin committing a felony against a child.

  • @scrappky
    @scrappky 21 день назад +11

    I agree with her. Yes, it shouldn't have happened but it was almost 40 years ago. She was 12 but he was 18. We have all done things we wish we didn't in our youth. I don't think this is a me-too kind of thing where many other victims are going to come forward. He has spent the last 40 years repenting. My thoughts are with the Morris family.

    • @michelleb8786
      @michelleb8786 21 день назад +2

      He was in his 20’s! Married with a child of his own! It was a crime!!!!!

  • @desiremansfield1644
    @desiremansfield1644 21 день назад +12

    Great, I agree. Good for you speaking out on this. God has forgiven him as he confessed and repented of it.
    Also happened 30 some years ago.
    All Christians can do is gossip and condemn.
    Shame on you all!!!!

  • @stephaniequintini49
    @stephaniequintini49 21 день назад +4

    If he wasn’t so intent on covering his sin and being deceptive about his sin, one could believe that he fully repented and changed. Also, if he tried to correct his “mistake” by taking accountability and paying for all the therapy, one might believe he was a new creation. He did non of the above.

  • @41maldonado
    @41maldonado 21 день назад +5

    I believe he has repented. There is so much envy towards this pastor. It’s incredible. How the word of God, said that we fight amping ourselves hatred. Instead of having mercy among us. We fight and envy each other. That’s exactly why the word of God saids. Will he find love aloud when he returns. I pray for Pastor Morris and his family. He has made a great mistake but all of us our sinners. If you want Gods mercy we have to give it to.

  • @robertj5208
    @robertj5208 17 дней назад +4

    Once he repents he can be forgiven and restored to the body of Christ, but not to the position of pastor, obviously.

  • @janiegarcia9554
    @janiegarcia9554 12 дней назад +4

    I agree totally with the woman of God !!

  • @sierrawendell6759
    @sierrawendell6759 22 дня назад +10

    It wasn't a mistake. It was a CRIME!!!!

    • @SusanMartin-vm7zr
      @SusanMartin-vm7zr 21 день назад +1

      God calls it sin.
      Sin can be forgiven.

    • @sierrawendell6759
      @sierrawendell6759 21 день назад

      @@SusanMartin-vm7zr The world exploits and abuses Children, and if caught they are prosecuted. So, are we to look the other way when someone in the church does it? This was a crime! Robert Morris didn't reveal the WHOLE truth about the matter. He knew that there would be backlash if he did! When it came out, he immediately resigned, why do you think he did that?

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 20 дней назад

      Thank you for The Truth.

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 20 дней назад

      @@SusanMartin-vm7zrJesus disagrees with you, Matthew 18:6.

  • @lucymarques1702
    @lucymarques1702 21 день назад +2

    Good message God bless you more and more for
    Telling the Truth

  • @meichiwang8274
    @meichiwang8274 21 день назад +9

    ❤ I'm glad there is a Pastor that really follows what Jesus has said.Above all, keep loving one another earnestly, since love covers a multitude of sins.🎉

  • @Paula-ov2ju
    @Paula-ov2ju 21 день назад +3

    Ok, so when some grown man messes with YOUR 12yr old granddaughter, over four years, let's wait 40 years to see if his repentance holds up! I guarantee that Robert Morris would be holding anyone to the letter of the law, regardless, if this had been his daughter or granddaughter. Excuse me..... his "young lady" Hypocrites!

  • @robertmackenzie6467
    @robertmackenzie6467 21 день назад +2

    Totally agree with her. He repented was forgiven and didn't sin for over 49 years - his accuser only wants money. She can have it - it won't bring her anything but sorrow. So sad! If we confess that our sins are forgiven when we repent - why are we still holding him accountable.
    His church basically threw him to the wolves.

  • @keithdunham7728
    @keithdunham7728 21 день назад +8

    I agree with this Pastor.
    We repent and God forgives. For 40 years now Pastor Morris has been being used by the lord. I hate this happened years ago. I to was molested about 11 to 12 yrs old. When I got saved and drew close to the lord I forgave the one that done that.

  • @godschild917
    @godschild917 15 дней назад +3

    Who are you to know what GOD is doing in this season. If GOD didn't want Robert Morris to sit down he would still be standing. Stop trying to cause opposition and allow GOD to do HIS business without your opinion. You just want to be notice by any means necessary.🤨

  • @helenal.7881
    @helenal.7881 10 дней назад +2

    I agree w this Pastor! Yay Ms.Owens.

  • @genevieveprovencio262
    @genevieveprovencio262 21 день назад +3

    Agree with you ❤

  • @markfernandes6485
    @markfernandes6485 21 день назад +1

    Can he be forgiven and can we move with God’s work?

  • @LALady1
    @LALady1 21 день назад +2

    I definitely believe he should be forgiven but unfortunately he molested a child and certain sins have more consequences. I don’t believe all sins are created equal. And the word says mninisters should be above reproach. He was a Pastor already and did this to a child. He should not been restored back to being a pastor after doing something like that. Perhaps if he wasn’t a Pastor it would be judged differently but had he been jailed I’m sure he would never had been a pastor.

  • @denniscarr1045
    @denniscarr1045 21 день назад +6

    Robert Morris was a child molester, this is not an affair with a young lady.
    Robert Morris, the elders & leaders, & his family covered up & ignored the crime about the child (12-year-old Cindy Clemeshire) & her family.
    To defend a child molester Is a crime, & the South Lake organization that covered up & ignored the incident should be accountable.
    Robert Morris & South Lake must take responsibility for their actions without blaming others & with no excuses.
    A child molester & murderer must pay for their Crimes.
    Forgiveness, certainly, but not without penalty for damages & wrongdoing.
    The gospel is free, but the rich & powerful pastors take advantage by lying to the congregation for money & personal recognition.

  • @MrsB7491
    @MrsB7491 21 день назад +2

    She is out of her mind!!

  • @bernardhenderson1146
    @bernardhenderson1146 4 дня назад +1

    Nothing like Christian love..

  • @abigailsiwiti6554
    @abigailsiwiti6554 19 дней назад +1

    Saul was a murderer, Jesus saved and used him, we are all born sinners, it takes the blood of Jesus.

  • @ronnywhite5602
    @ronnywhite5602 22 дня назад +1

    Where is God in the mix?

  • @JaniceEllis-bk6fn
    @JaniceEllis-bk6fn 13 дней назад +1

    I liked his teaching .

  • @genevieveprovencio262
    @genevieveprovencio262 21 день назад +1

    All have sinned… I was sexually abused as a child…I’ve forgiven the person.. he’s dead now.. don’t think he was saved… so is he in hell? Probably.. I’m not his judge…

  • @thysm100
    @thysm100 9 дней назад +1

    A Church Divided Over Leaders
    1 Corinthians 1:10 I appeal to you, brothers and sisters,[a] in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that all of you agree with one another in what you say and that there be no divisions among you, but that you be perfectly united in mind and thought. 11 My brothers and sisters, some from Chloe’s household have informed me that there are quarrels among you. 12 What I mean is this: One of you says, “I follow Paul”; another, “I follow Apollos”; another, “I follow Cephas[b]”; still another, “I follow Christ.”

  • @MarieNorris-cq6mq
    @MarieNorris-cq6mq 21 день назад +1

    I agree with you about Robert Morris

  • @ritamorrisguynup44
    @ritamorrisguynup44 21 день назад +2

    If it was your daughter

  • @trinaisspeakin4539
    @trinaisspeakin4539 21 день назад

    Because we serve a RIGHTEOUS God…. Just like he may forgive that p-do…. He will also bring justice to that woman who was violated. He may have been able to hide his sin for 40 years…the victim dealt with NO justice.. crying out to God in pain for 40 years. And the Lord has heard.
    I had to guard my ear gates and pause the video.

  • @almamathias3629
    @almamathias3629 8 дней назад

    My thoughts and sympathies are with the Robert family. He who has not sinned let him cast the first stone. Jesus Himself has said it
    So there

  • @ICBRealEstate
    @ICBRealEstate 21 день назад +5

    She is wrong he needs to be punished

    • @SusanMartin-vm7zr
      @SusanMartin-vm7zr 21 день назад

      The Bible says NOT to take christians to law. You can not take a christian to court.
      God will not allow his children to be judged by secular law.
      The church alone is to judge Morris.
      Jesus commanded us to forgive.

  • @marshanewman5602
    @marshanewman5602 21 день назад

    Amen!

  • @theoad6997
    @theoad6997 21 день назад +1

    She is right. And you are talking like you are a sinless person. All have sinned...and all need the forgiveness of the Lord. Period!

  • @ruzindanajohnpaul2504
    @ruzindanajohnpaul2504 20 дней назад

    Moses lost the privilege of crossing into the promised land but appeared with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration . Read psalm 130 those who are holding stones!

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 20 дней назад

      I do not think that happens for pedophile wolves in sheeps clothing.

  • @ddrules9294
    @ddrules9294 21 день назад

    Woman preacher worried about losing money

  • @khamisikinney1842
    @khamisikinney1842 7 дней назад

    This sister husband probably didnrhe same thing and thats why she is supporting Robert

  • @ritamorrisguynup44
    @ritamorrisguynup44 21 день назад

    BS. CANT BELIEVE ANYONE WOULD BUT IT. BS.

  • @Maryann-pt5fp
    @Maryann-pt5fp 21 день назад +6

    ROBERT Morris confessed his sin, he apologized to the family.
    He also confessed it to the church. What
    More do you want? You're all acting like vultures and pretending to be holier than thou. And you call yourselves Christians. Why did it take 30 years to come out
    With her accusations.
    Could it money??? Morris' sins are under the blood. Who are you pitiful people to cast judgement?
    Have you pitiful people confessed your sins to the world?

    • @ddrules9294
      @ddrules9294 21 день назад

      Paedophiles should not ever be allowed back in pulpits with women and children.
      He is eligible to preach in men’s jails or prisons

    • @LALady1
      @LALady1 21 день назад +1

      He never should have been restored Back to being a pastor. Forgiveness yes but he definitely should not have gone back into being a pastor. That’s an automatic dismissal. 1 Timothy 3:2: “An overseer must be above reproach . . .”
      Titus 1:5-7: “This is why I left you in Crete, so that you might . . . appoint elders in every town as I directed you - if anyone is above reproach, the husband of one wife, and his children are believers and not open to the charge of debauchery or insubordination. For an overseer, as God’s steward, must be above reproach . . .”

    • @TrustJesus333
      @TrustJesus333 20 дней назад +1

      @@LALady1Thank you for The Truth.
      Jesus said few and meant few.

    • @LALady1
      @LALady1 20 дней назад +1

      @@TrustJesus333 Celebrity Christianity is unwise and dangerous. Human pride is a deadly force, and one of Satan's surest weapons against us. All that plays into it, including the tendency of believers to elevate men into positions of high esteem and honor, should be avoided at all costs. Jesus is the rockstar, not any of us.
      Church discipline is critical, but it is absolutely insufficient when a crime has been committed.

    • @LALady1
      @LALady1 20 дней назад +1

      @@TrustJesus333
      If he wasn’t a pastor and had these issues, it might be different if he had the spirit of God working in him prior. However, let's be honest, most people would not want to sit under a pastor who molested a child or preteen before becoming a Christian. They would feel he could slip up and do it again and wouldn’t feel safe with their children around him. This is not to say that God doesn't forgive those sins, but all sin is not equal. I don’t know where people get the idea that it is. Yes, Paul was a murderer in his day, but he experienced a complete transformation once saved, so this situation is not comparable. In the New Testament, God gives a mandate for those in leadership. James 3:1 states, "Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness." James 3:1-12 explains that teachers are held accountable to live by the truth they teach and not lead people away from God's Word. If a teacher teaches incorrectly, they may cause their listeners to stumble, and if they fail to live in a way that's worthy of their teaching, they may be considered a hypocrite and deserving of further judgment.

  • @janietblackmon5880
    @janietblackmon5880 9 дней назад

    She is wrong

  • @ChrisChrisDorcy
    @ChrisChrisDorcy 21 день назад +2

    Why are you even on the pulpit, Clearly the LORD SAID, "Woman shall be QUIET IN THE CHURCH"

    • @Mac12444
      @Mac12444 21 день назад

      Why don't you step up to the pulpit then?

  • @sonyafreeman2295
    @sonyafreeman2295 21 день назад +1

    I understand what she is saying but the Bible is very clear about harming little ones. He said its better for you to put a millstone around your neck and drown. Yes, we fall short but he went into those peoples house like a ravenous wolf and preyed on an innocent one! I do agree if anyone knew the age of the girl they should be held accountable as well.I wonder if this pastor would feel the same way if someone she trusted from her church came into her home and violated her son or daughter, not once, but for four and a half years!

  • @andycruz7403
    @andycruz7403 16 дней назад +1

    He didnt trully repent. He tried to hide the facts. There is more victims. His own words i looked for girls that didnt have good parents. Pray they come forward. Every time he said girls or women he meant children

  • @davidfarley1902
    @davidfarley1902 21 день назад

    YOU CAN JOIN HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!