Even if we stopped all incomers. The glaring fact is that your current Conservative government has still beat your public services to a pulp not fit for UK residents.
in 98' Blair gov did a paper on migration independent it stated that we required migration from the EU and outside for public service from sweepers to doctor consultants. because the British public didn't want to do these sort of jobs hence why Blair opened the door slightly. this for example gave us 1.5 months waiting at hospitals.
The public services maybe be worse for the brits, but are they not still infinitly better for the asylum seekers? A bad hospital is better than no hospital. A small free apartment is still better than paying for an even smaller one in your home country.
Donna is completely 100% correct. England and Europe is reaping the whirlwind of the decisions and actions taken in the past. It's foolish that modern day English people and Europeans think that the pillage and plunder that took place on their behalf in the past didn't have consequences. The past matters.
If the past matters when are countries such as Mongolia, Turkey and Japan (who also had empires) going to get the comeuppance? I could also add the various Dynasties and Caliphates to that list and also the Africans who took other Africans land and the Africans who took other Africans as slaves. No calls for reparations or comeuppance fort he either. Yeah this 'past matters' argument doesn't really stack up does it? Either that or it's ALL one way!
@@insertname2035 You really need to stop using the past as an EXCUSE for countries not helping out their people. Colonialism ended and the people refused to help themselves. So stop BSing. British are not the same as 1800s so what on EARTH are you even talking about?
How does Tom not see the connection between our foreign policy and people fleeing the effects of our foreign policy? It's quite remarkable and very depressing.
The last caller was absolutely correct rich people are profiting from the bombing of Syria and the poor in this country and all over Europe are suffering the consequences!!!!!!
If brits and wh5e people in general REALLY knew the level of anger there is for them in Asia and Africa, they’d not speak ever again. Things will get heated literally over the next few decades. War is approaching and we’re ready to go 😅😊
@@grtcara8386 don't let brexiters hear you say that,stats show most of them were on benefits or pension. Or do you just mean stop the 40 odd quid a week asylum seekers get?
@@JohnMccabe-kr7du no I mean stop it all cos of precisely what you said. They are all on it and they think they are entitled to it by virtue of them being white and Anglo Saxon so my solution is stop all benefits
I like Poland and Hungary.. Zero tolerance...nobody comes in to their country...reject EU legislation....job done. They are now the safest places to live in Europe.
They are housed for free via agencies I know for a fact a lot of student let’s now housing them at 1400 per month bills are paid for and all the damage is paid for. They get a small allowance per week for food
@@Raven431 kindly explain - if the money spaffed up the wall on housing Asylum seekers in hotels owned by Tory donors, the Bibby Stockholm and defunct RAF bases in totally unsuitable places in the countryside was used instead on processing claims in a timely fashion (perhaps in France as has been offered) those who qualify for asylum (currently about 95% or more) could be allowed to work and look after themselves and contribute to the tax take. It's the Tory way - just like Doctors pay - instead of paying them, they are spending the money on locums at considerably more cost just to make a point...
Libya wasn’t bombed for any reason other than the West and its allies wanted to replace Gaddafi with someone more aligned particularly regarding oil, gold and pan-Africanism. “Humanitarian intervention” only ever seems to be applied to dissident states. Strange coincidence.
Donna is historically correct and that word, although harsh is shockingly accurate of historical British forces in colonies. I say that as a White British person. I have long thought that the UK is reaping the whirlwind of colonialism, cause and effect can take place over hundreds of years and this is the result. However, its not the rich people in this country that are being blamed when their ancestors DIRECTLY were involved with colonialism and they got the benefits while the working class of this country, most of which have no ties to colonialism are told its THEIR fault. The rich people should be blamed for colonialism, not the working class.
Yes James is great at making uninformed less educated people then himself look daft ( he actually thrived off it ) but he'd have a very different outcome against a well informed person such as Douglas Murray , infact he'd get tied in knots and have to cut him off 😂
@@terrysmith5168 Well informed Douglas Murray is a hate preaching bigot & I'm sure James would say as much. Also those callers probably think Douglas's word is gospel.
@@terrysmith5168goodness me....I'll take James' outpourings over Murrays' every day....bc with James there is a possibility for a dialogue while Murray's is not....anyway, we are all wasting our time with our "opinions" 😅 while James and Murray are making money off them....keep the unwashed entertained etc....just thinking out loud 😊
All the purge crimes were performed by the British Empire at some time. Forced castration to eradicate ethnicity was just one example. Ever wondered why they don't teach the truth of Britain's empire days in schools? And we condemn others from our ivory tower
@@cowbanchalam9725in India they carried out public executions to force the colonies into submission, strapping prisoners to the front of cannons and firing them. I was never taught any of the evils of the british empire in school.
@cowbanchalam9725 yes tell the truth about what the Germans had planned for the Africans not once, twice. And who stopped them. Start the class off with, " why doesn't Germany have any colonies anymore in Africa?".
@@davidpersaud1630 The Africa campaign. The Italians wanted the top half, the Germans the bottom. They both got battered. Wasn't long ago WW2. Late 1800s the Germans were doing gas Chambers in Africa. We kicked them out then. They had to hand over all their colonies to the Allies, because the Africans were a walk over and couldn't defend themselves. And that Is why the Germans don't have any colonies anymore. They were eliminating all the Africans they could get there hands on. Thank their lucky stars The British were waiting for them. Don't worry though. Now Africa is empty they can go back in with the EU Army. 3rd time lucky. No one to stop them now.
I think people forget, once your claim is accepted, they are entitles to pay their taxes just like anything else. There are no legal routes to come to the uk thanks to the tories, and claims aren't being processed
If that is the case then how come that more are arriving through legal channels than arrive illegally. They should be returned. There is no law that says we cannot return them and Australia did it. They are bound by the same nautical laws.
With all due respect to Swarbrick, he doesn't have the right to police the language people like Donna uses to describe the crimes that the UK has perpetuated on her country.
@@TEMUJINARTS You know what? As a British person I used to have a lot of shame for the crimes that Britain had committed. But every time I apologised it fell on deaf ears and the final result was more calls for more apologies. I am done with that now. I am proud to be British and I am proud of the British Empire. Yes it made some mistakes, but show me an Empire (or country) which hasn't! Britain is a fantastic country and you have it to thank for the abolition of slavery and for so many inventions that make your life comfortable today. Maybe you should use your head more effectively like I did mine, 12 years ago.
I drove from Kent to Manchester on Sunday morning, to miss the traffic, the roads were full.....all 4 lanes.....too many people in England - I am a tourist, just an observation
This is the first time i have listened to Swarbrick and i can assure you it will be the last,does he not understand that you can not take events in history out of the equation especially when you consider how recently some of this history occurred.
@@chatham43There was this little thing called 'The British Empire'. You might want to start with that when equating why many immigrants should rightly feel entitled to come to Britain.
The last caller especially, his comments about smart bombs that only target ISIL members is very erudite in that the bombing completely ignores the unavoidable collateral damage to infrastructure in the surrounding area and how that might affect people with no affiliation to ISIL and give them cause to seek a safer life elsewhere. Then they get vilified by the people of the nation that conducted the bombing "to help free them"
Also seems very misinformed. The last caller pointed out that ISIS were trained and armed by the UK and Tom starts rambling about how our military operations are targeting ISIS and not civilians.🤔 The point was that we are also partially responsible for all of the violence ISIS commits, not just our own military operations.
In 1945 Europe was in absolute ruins. It was rebuilt in less than a generation. China was exploited by the Europeans just the same as Africa, look at China now. The argument that poor countries are poor today because of what happened many generations ago is nonsense.
The war in Afghanistan was to fight the Taliban but who created this in the first place. Successive American administrations supported the Taliban, going back to 1979. It was part of the cold war doctrine that my enemys enemy is my friend. America wanted Afghanistan to be the Soviet Unions Vietnam or Stalingrad. Who provided the Taliban with the artillery to shoot down Soviet attack helicopters?. Reagan and Clinton welcomed them to the United States and called then freedom fighters. It was after the war, when the U.S. didnt want to know, that a power vacuum was created and all the rogue elements, armed to the teeth, fought for supremacy. Just look at how many countries and functioning democracies the C.I.A. have destabilised in the name of anti communism, including Iran and Chile.
@@leanatale7251let me tell you, when i came to this country, i didn't even know about the benefits. The reason i came to this country is because i speak the language, and i felt like i could be an active member of the discussions over my life in matters such as NI number application, accomodation, finding a job, etc). I started working 2 days after I arrived here, and haven't been without a taxpaying job since, and haven't ever claimed benefits. English is the most commonly spoken 2nd language in the world, and it wouldn't be the case if the brits didn't put their paws on half of the world back in the days.
@@myx0myc0t4 If the British hadn't 'put their paws in half the world back in the day' then the French would have so you'd just be in France now saying exactly the same, only in French. If not them the Spanish. If not them the Portuguese. If not them the Dutch. If not them then someone else. It's the story of humanity, not specifically the British.
The lady caller started badly...but she has a point. People come to the UK (and other colonial powers) because they have heard of it, and because we make ourselves to be big successful cheeses internationally. Also, the UK (and France, Italy etc) have imposed their languages on these countries, so when things go bad, they think they can turn to the UK/France/Etc and that they might be able to live in peace and work here.
The man spoke of spongers: Where's the electricity, oil, gold, diamonds, medicine, clothes, metal, rubber, etc and Donna was honest and appropriate. We've never fought a war to benefit anybody but ourselves.
Correction - we've never fought a war to benefit anybody but the welathy and the landowners. WW2 being the exception. Though even corporations and rich families profited from that war too.
But the West stopped doing that decades ago and now the Chinese are doing it to them. Isn’t it time they started growing up and taking responsibility instead of blaming everyone else.
I agree with Donna. I think the word she used was actually historically correct in many cases, it isn't an inapropriate word, it's an inapropriate act.
Listening to these callers just illustrates why the refugee problem will never get solved. They digest the bigoted, simplified headlines of the Express, Mail & The Sun and seem content in their ignorance!! I admire Tom's patience.
@@pauldadson3812 Ah, the age old "Wait until they live next to you" response! We have had native people living next door to us, who I would have happily exchanged for refugees!!
Tom is pretty thick about history. 👇 "at the beginning of the war the British India Army was 200000 at the end of the war it was 2 million we could never have won the war without them" Churchill
@@clmclmn21 you get the bit about more people work more taxes more we can spend on our national treasures like the NHS. we are totally dependent migration to keep our country going from sweepers to consultant doctors.
@@tonycowin By your logic, you shouldn't have a problem with them being housed with you. Do you want them to live on the streets ? What if there are not enough houses ? You would need to take them in, if you believe migration is the,, essential human right ", you fool. You would also have to pay for their housing, food, healthcare and etc. Millions of people, by the way.
Why are LBC always on the side of the migrant? And ridicules and insults anyone who has any criticism of the thousands who turn up on our coasts. Having travelled through countless "safe" countries.
@@christhomson8924a genuine asylum seeker would seek asylum in the first safe country they get to but they All shop around Europe looking for the softest country with the best , easiest benefits, which is often Soft Touch Benefits Britain
A genuine question. If it is determined that it is not safe for an asylum seeker to return to their country, is the country processing their claim obliged to accept them? If not, if they can't go home, where are they expected to go? Italy could end up accepting all genuine refugees if this were the case.
@@jeremymerrifield7244 Well they can’t really expect to be taken seriously by their end country then, jf they’ve travelled through multiple safe countries to arrive there.
@@yingtonRefugees are not obliged by international law to stop in the nearest’safe countries’ . Refugees may decide to head to a country like Britain because they may have relatives there or speak the language. The number of ‘safe countries’ that they travel through isn’t something that would be considered in their application
Gerneral migration is out of control, the largest army to attack this country was 30,000, the amount of people that immigrated here last year was 1,200,000 people.
The 1st caller sounds very insecure. If he'd worked hard in his life, got a decent education, worked on getting his own decent job and raising his own living standards, he wouldn't be worried about immigration. Sounds like the 1st caller feels threatened by immigration.
The Werstern World has pumped in TRILLIONS of POUNDS , DOLLARS , EUROS ..... into Africa but to what avail ? They couldn't fix their own problems with the money . I don't have a solution 😭🇬🇧
The government is now spending eight million pounds of tax payers money a day on just hotels alone for the channel crossers . This figure works out to almost three billion pounds a year . All this is happening whilst British people struggle to eat and heat
Just who created the problem or haven't you stopped to think about that. since 2010 the staffing levels of people that process refugees has remained the same they've barely processed the same amount of refugees and the amount of refugees has increased massively especially after leaving the EU as the UK was no longer part of the Dublin agreement. (Are you managing to keep up or is this too much for tiny exceptionist mind to take onboard?) not enough staff = Not as many cases processed... More Refugees do to Brexit = big backlog.. Big backlog of cases = More refugees waiting to be processed resuting in refugees being put into hotels and it's not the refugees fault that British people are struggling to eat and heat they haven't been running Britain since 2010 . Here's another thing for you to think about £3 billion a year on hotel bills how many of those hotels are owned by Tory donors and chums and how much would it cost to set up processing in France. Have a nice day!!!
"Blame ourselves" as if we are all individually responsible or complicit for the deeds of the ruling classes hundreds of years ago. It shouldn't be this easy to abuse or asylum system, we shouldn't have a home office that is ordered not to be skeptical about asylum claims. This is the ancestral homeland of the British, all people's deserve one this is ours! Most Britons can trace their DNA back to pre Roman Britain, this narrative that we have never had cultural homogeneity is false! We should curate and be proud of our culture and not only have a small oasis for the middle classes, I don't see any drive towards multiculturalism for the sake of multiculturalism in their towns and neighborhoods...... It's all about lowering the value of labour and increasing the value of housing and services.
Sceptical about asylum claims before they are carried out? To deport people who have no right to be in the country, it helps if you can identify who they are. Our elected government is 100% responsible for not identifying these people.
Because of Brexit we cannot send them back to the EU country where they entered.The British people are running out of patience with the Government . Unfortunately 5:11
If our reason for "towing them back to France" is that France is a safe country, couldn't France return them to Britain citing the same reason? Ultimately, it comes down to the 'safeness' of the origin of an asylum seeker's journey rather than where they make their legal claim for asylum. Where do asylum seekers get the idea that Britain is a 'soft touch'? From 'Boat People Daily' and its online equivalent? If their asylum claim is rejected, they are deported. Let's try a plan of deporting those who have no legal right to stay here by processing their claims.
The solution is simple: when an asylum seeker lands in Dover you say: 'Bonjour! Être-vous perdu?' It may also be helpful to paint a massive Tricolore on the cliffs ...
I remember I lived in the Middle East and all the countries there will pretty much never give anyone citizenship which guarantees people will not really bother trying to come and if your illegal and male you will be imprisoned until they can return you and it really does solve a lot of the problems here in the UK 🇬🇧. But this will never be done here as it is seen as extreme.
Just let them in.. we have got unlimited room here.. we have a vast amount of empty housing.. our NHS is empty and needs patients.. schools are empty.. in short just let them in.. we have loads of room
It's all about money for the government they don't care about social cohesion or our infrastructure it doesn't effect them, they see migrant men as more beneficial in terms of work, the government is depending too much on immigration.
Even if we stopped all incomers. The glaring fact is that your current Conservative government has still beat your public services to a pulp not fit for UK residents.
Ain't that the truth. It's an absolute disgrace.
in 98' Blair gov did a paper on migration independent it stated that we required migration from the EU and outside for public service from sweepers to doctor consultants. because the British public didn't want to do these sort of jobs hence why Blair opened the door slightly. this for example gave us 1.5 months waiting at hospitals.
The public services maybe be worse for the brits, but are they not still infinitly better for the asylum seekers? A bad hospital is better than no hospital. A small free apartment is still better than paying for an even smaller one in your home country.
Not to mention the fact that we need immigrants for jobs.
people have to realise that visa applicants have to pay £500 per year for NHS service per year
"I've written to my local MP. I'm not going to say which one because he's not my local MP" These are the types of geniuses that phone LBC daily?
Any bet it's either thick as mince Gullis or Anderson
.....and listen daily...totally agree....!
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
We had a labour MP that did not step foot in their constituency until they were put forward by the party.
@@alyx1654 sadly no but the MP for Bishops Stortford is actually a Tory Assistant Government Whip 🤣
Donna is completely 100% correct.
England and Europe is reaping the whirlwind of the decisions and actions taken in the past.
It's foolish that modern day English people and Europeans think that the pillage and plunder that took place on their behalf in the past didn't have consequences.
The past matters.
BS
@@davidpersaud1630it's true though
If the past matters when are countries such as Mongolia, Turkey and Japan (who also had empires) going to get the comeuppance?
I could also add the various Dynasties and Caliphates to that list and also the Africans who took other Africans land and the Africans who took other Africans as slaves. No calls for reparations or comeuppance fort he either. Yeah this 'past matters' argument doesn't really stack up does it? Either that or it's ALL one way!
@@chrisj9700 you should look up some history. There is not a country in this world Britain doesn't meddle in
@@insertname2035 You really need to stop using the past as an EXCUSE for countries not helping out their people. Colonialism ended and the people refused to help themselves. So stop BSing. British are not the same as 1800s so what on EARTH are you even talking about?
How does Tom not see the connection between our foreign policy and people fleeing the effects of our foreign policy? It's quite remarkable and very depressing.
Perhaps a case of "none so blind as those who will not see"
Precisely....
And Donna is right 😂....but poor Tom doesn't actually know the British history nor the power of karma....and the fact that you reap what you sow.....
Hes deliberately not seeing it
Brexit voters aren't known as deep thinkers.
The last caller was absolutely correct rich people are profiting from the bombing of Syria and the poor in this country and all over Europe are suffering the consequences!!!!!!
Beyond absurd.
@@HumansAreShitFactories ?
Donna should have just used the words "exploited" and "looted" and "stolen" instead and she was 100% correct
If brits and wh5e people in general REALLY knew the level of anger there is for them in Asia and Africa, they’d not speak ever again. Things will get heated literally over the next few decades. War is approaching and we’re ready to go 😅😊
Stop all benefits
@@grtcara8386 don't let brexiters hear you say that,stats show most of them were on benefits or pension.
Or do you just mean stop the 40 odd quid a week asylum seekers get?
@@JohnMccabe-kr7du no I mean stop it all cos of precisely what you said. They are all on it and they think they are entitled to it by virtue of them being white and Anglo Saxon so my solution is stop all benefits
Especially if u think about Afgahnistan
What did the British take from Afghanistan 100s of years ago?
It’s amazing how ignorant people are
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
@@christhomson8924Europe will collapse and fall in to total anarchy!
I like Poland and Hungary..
Zero tolerance...nobody comes in to their country...reject EU legislation....job done. They are now the safest places to live in Europe.
Go and live there then
Nobody comes into Poland ???? How about the thousands that fled there from Ukraine???
Bye, enjoy.
Ta ra
@@benneave-ck1ti I live abroad.
Ahhh…the classic “free house and benefits”
Absolutely thick as mince
I heard every new migrant who arrives gets given their own county, just yesterday some poor sod was given Kent
They are housed for free via agencies I know for a fact a lot of student let’s now housing them at 1400 per month bills are paid for and all the damage is paid for. They get a small allowance per week for food
...yep...that would be outrageous...totally agree....!
@@Raven431 kindly explain - if the money spaffed up the wall on housing Asylum seekers in hotels owned by Tory donors, the Bibby Stockholm and defunct RAF bases in totally unsuitable places in the countryside was used instead on processing claims in a timely fashion (perhaps in France as has been offered) those who qualify for asylum (currently about 95% or more) could be allowed to work and look after themselves and contribute to the tax take.
It's the Tory way - just like Doctors pay - instead of paying them, they are spending the money on locums at considerably more cost just to make a point...
Libya wasn’t bombed for any reason other than the West and its allies wanted to replace Gaddafi with someone more aligned particularly regarding oil, gold and pan-Africanism. “Humanitarian intervention” only ever seems to be applied to dissident states. Strange coincidence.
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
Correct! The West forcing a belief system for no other reason than to economically exploit from then- on- in. History repeating itself.
Wrong
@@christhomson8924No you do not have that right. For example you do not have a given right to stay in a country that you seek asylum in.
Jonathon is a Daily Mail reader!
I've heard this same story so many times before ( yawn)
...think you're probably right....we need more here....absolutely agree with you...!
Donna is historically correct and that word, although harsh is shockingly accurate of historical British forces in colonies. I say that as a White British person. I have long thought that the UK is reaping the whirlwind of colonialism, cause and effect can take place over hundreds of years and this is the result.
However, its not the rich people in this country that are being blamed when their ancestors DIRECTLY were involved with colonialism and they got the benefits while the working class of this country, most of which have no ties to colonialism are told its THEIR fault. The rich people should be blamed for colonialism, not the working class.
Donna is spot on ! Iraq , Afghanistan , Libya ....
Donna is absolutely right. Let England take responsibility for their results of the past.
These people used to ring James O'Brien up all the time and get absolutely humiliated, I miss those days
Yes James is great at making uninformed less educated people then himself look daft ( he actually thrived off it ) but he'd have a very different outcome against a well informed person such as Douglas Murray , infact he'd get tied in knots and have to cut him off 😂
@@terrysmith5168 Well informed Douglas Murray is a hate preaching bigot & I'm sure James would say as much. Also those callers probably think Douglas's word is gospel.
@@terrysmith5168goodness me....I'll take James' outpourings over Murrays' every day....bc with James there is a possibility for a dialogue while Murray's is not....anyway, we are all wasting our time with our "opinions" 😅 while James and Murray are making money off them....keep the unwashed entertained etc....just thinking out loud 😊
@@terrysmith5168 lol Douglas Murray 🤣
@@TheWatchman1893
Douglas Murray is a number one best selling author who's books have stayed on the no 1 list for twenty weeks 🤪
Tom is wrong. That’s literally what happened to most countries that came under British rule.
All the purge crimes were performed by the British Empire at some time.
Forced castration to eradicate ethnicity was just one example.
Ever wondered why they don't teach the truth of Britain's empire days in schools?
And we condemn others from our ivory tower
@@cowbanchalam9725in India they carried out public executions to force the colonies into submission, strapping prisoners to the front of cannons and firing them. I was never taught any of the evils of the british empire in school.
@cowbanchalam9725 yes tell the truth about what the Germans had planned for the Africans not once, twice. And who stopped them. Start the class off with, " why doesn't Germany have any colonies anymore in Africa?".
Liar
@@davidpersaud1630 The Africa campaign. The Italians wanted the top half, the Germans the bottom. They both got battered. Wasn't long ago WW2. Late 1800s the Germans were doing gas Chambers in Africa. We kicked them out then. They had to hand over all their colonies to the Allies, because the Africans were a walk over and couldn't defend themselves. And that Is why the Germans don't have any colonies anymore. They were eliminating all the Africans they could get there hands on. Thank their lucky stars The British were waiting for them. Don't worry though. Now Africa is empty they can go back in with the EU Army. 3rd time lucky. No one to stop them now.
Donna is spot on agreed 👍 well done on her for speaking out.👌👌👌👌
I think people forget, once your claim is accepted, they are entitles to pay their taxes just like anything else.
There are no legal routes to come to the uk thanks to the tories, and claims aren't being processed
If that is the case then how come that more are arriving through legal channels than arrive illegally. They should be returned. There is no law that says we cannot return them and Australia did it. They are bound by the same nautical laws.
@susancurtis1651 Legal immigration and asylum are two different things.
Labour and their ‘policies’ have always attracted the flies!
Tom has no idea!
He should do a bit of research before defending Britain!
With all due respect to Swarbrick, he doesn't have the right to police the language people like Donna uses to describe the crimes that the UK has perpetuated on her country.
....which crimes?....and stay away from twitter...!
@chatham43 use your head more effectively
@@TEMUJINARTS You know what? As a British person I used to have a lot of shame for the crimes that Britain had committed. But every time I apologised it fell on deaf ears and the final result was more calls for more apologies. I am done with that now. I am proud to be British and I am proud of the British Empire. Yes it made some mistakes, but show me an Empire (or country) which hasn't! Britain is a fantastic country and you have it to thank for the abolition of slavery and for so many inventions that make your life comfortable today. Maybe you should use your head more effectively like I did mine, 12 years ago.
@@clmclmn21 It sounds like you were never really sorry or shameful in the first place and your "pride" is just disguised spite and resentment.
@@clmclmn21Doubt.
I drove from Kent to Manchester on Sunday morning, to miss the traffic, the roads were full.....all 4 lanes.....too many people in England - I am a tourist, just an observation
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
😂🤡
Clown
"I don't like the word you used to describe what happened to your country", Tom is such a neolib.
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
@@christhomson8924why do you keep spamming the comments with this message?? It’s bizarre
Also anyone who has a hatred of this country for whatever reason and currently resides here well, they know where the airport is.
This is the first time i have listened to Swarbrick and i can assure you it will be the last,does he not understand that you can not take events in history out of the equation especially when you consider how recently some of this history occurred.
...depends which equation your equating....please elucidate......
@@chatham43There was this little thing called 'The British Empire'. You might want to start with that when equating why many immigrants should rightly feel entitled to come to Britain.
The bulk of these boat immigrants are coming from Africa, countries that are not at war and have had their independence for a very long time.
The last caller especially, his comments about smart bombs that only target ISIL members is very erudite in that the bombing completely ignores the unavoidable collateral damage to infrastructure in the surrounding area and how that might affect people with no affiliation to ISIL and give them cause to seek a safer life elsewhere. Then they get vilified by the people of the nation that conducted the bombing "to help free them"
Also seems very misinformed. The last caller pointed out that ISIS were trained and armed by the UK and Tom starts rambling about how our military operations are targeting ISIS and not civilians.🤔 The point was that we are also partially responsible for all of the violence ISIS commits, not just our own military operations.
Tom not understanding the damage of empire on countries the British Empire pillaged….
Still suffering of those effects today!
In 1945 Europe was in absolute ruins. It was rebuilt in less than a generation. China was exploited by the Europeans just the same as Africa, look at China now. The argument that poor countries are poor today because of what happened many generations ago is nonsense.
Get over it already
And now the Chinese are doing it to them. Isn’t it time they stood up and took control of their countries
The war in Afghanistan was to fight the Taliban but who created this in the first place. Successive American administrations supported the Taliban, going back to 1979. It was part of the cold war doctrine that my enemys enemy is my friend. America wanted Afghanistan to be the Soviet Unions Vietnam or Stalingrad. Who provided the Taliban with the artillery to shoot down Soviet attack helicopters?. Reagan and Clinton welcomed them to the United States and called then freedom fighters. It was after the war, when the U.S. didnt want to know, that a power vacuum was created and all the rogue elements, armed to the teeth, fought for supremacy.
Just look at how many countries and functioning democracies the C.I.A. have destabilised in the name of anti communism, including Iran and Chile.
It's high time people were given some facts about international maritime law. How many times have they been told? 🤦♀️
the difficulty comes when there is little other than vacant space between their ears...
Well done Donna..you said it like it was!
So why doesn’t the same thing happen in Japan then?
No, she didn't. You hate this country and will agree with anyone who slags it off.
Yes, that £35 per week is definitely why people are risking life and death for. Daily fail readers are thick
...and you base that on what middle-class boy....?
@chatham43 should there be a comma after 'what'? If not, the question is meaningless
£47 per week, free hotel, free food, free heating, free medical, free dentist, free phone, free clothes, free gym, free bicycle. Scroungers!
@@leanatale7251let me tell you, when i came to this country, i didn't even know about the benefits. The reason i came to this country is because i speak the language, and i felt like i could be an active member of the discussions over my life in matters such as NI number application, accomodation, finding a job, etc). I started working 2 days after I arrived here, and haven't been without a taxpaying job since, and haven't ever claimed benefits. English is the most commonly spoken 2nd language in the world, and it wouldn't be the case if the brits didn't put their paws on half of the world back in the days.
@@myx0myc0t4 If the British hadn't 'put their paws in half the world back in the day' then the French would have so you'd just be in France now saying exactly the same, only in French. If not them the Spanish. If not them the Portuguese. If not them the Dutch. If not them then someone else. It's the story of humanity, not specifically the British.
The lady caller started badly...but she has a point. People come to the UK (and other colonial powers) because they have heard of it, and because we make ourselves to be big successful cheeses internationally. Also, the UK (and France, Italy etc) have imposed their languages on these countries, so when things go bad, they think they can turn to the UK/France/Etc and that they might be able to live in peace and work here.
Donna was spot on. Truth hurts
The man spoke of spongers: Where's the electricity, oil, gold, diamonds, medicine, clothes, metal, rubber, etc and Donna was honest and appropriate. We've never fought a war to benefit anybody but ourselves.
Correction - we've never fought a war to benefit anybody but the welathy and the landowners.
WW2 being the exception. Though even corporations and rich families profited from that war too.
But the West stopped doing that decades ago and now the Chinese are doing it to them. Isn’t it time they started growing up and taking responsibility instead of blaming everyone else.
Donna speaks the truth.
Donna was not having it today, she said “you got a problem with asylum seekers, blame colonialism”
I agree with Donna. I think the word she used was actually historically correct in many cases, it isn't an inapropriate word, it's an inapropriate act.
The only thing inappropriate is chauvinist overreaction of global Britain lol.
But do we want millions of more people like Donna living here who feel such resentment?
@@jackkruese4258 I don't think most of us have much to worry about, we are not wealthy.
He is more offended by the word then the actions of the empire.
Well said that woman!!!
Boring right whinge cliches
what your solution ? faster processing rubber stamp everyone we dont have a lot of space in the country ,
@@ravd8082
How does a government official process a person who has no documents ?
It's almost impossible to make an informed decision
@@terrysmith5168 thats why they need to be sent back not given luxury accommodation paid by the taxpayer
They do it all the time
No, Tom, no. No one thinks that 20 years of Afghanistan was for them. No one. We're not American.
So he's written to his local MP who's not his local MP 😂😂😂😂
Listening to these callers just illustrates why the refugee problem will never get solved. They digest the bigoted, simplified headlines of the Express, Mail & The Sun and seem content in their ignorance!! I admire Tom's patience.
Exactly. The immigrant problem is a created crisis by the Tories.
Let's hear your opinion when they are moved in next to you ,
@@pauldadson3812 Ah, the age old "Wait until they live next to you" response! We have had native people living next door to us, who I would have happily exchanged for refugees!!
@@pauldadson3812 I have refugees living next door to me now. Lovely people.
Tom is pretty thick about history. 👇
"at the beginning of the war the British India Army was 200000 at the end of the war it was 2 million we could never have won the war without them" Churchill
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
@@christhomson8924 Do they ALL have the right to live in your house too?
@@clmclmn21How is somebody's private house the same as a nation-state? 😅😂
@@clmclmn21 you get the bit about more people work more taxes more we can spend on our national treasures like the NHS. we are totally dependent migration to keep our country going from sweepers to consultant doctors.
@@tonycowin By your logic, you shouldn't have a problem with them being housed with you. Do you want them to live on the streets ? What if there are not enough houses ? You would need to take them in, if you believe migration is the,, essential human right ", you fool. You would also have to pay for their housing, food, healthcare and etc. Millions of people, by the way.
The last caller had Tom on the ropes. He was out of his depth on this issue.
It a bit lit kettle black - the english complaining people are coming to their country and taking what they want lol
No visa No papers No entry
...no chance....
That's a very very simple view on things indeed.
Some people believe every lie they read in the Sun/Express/Mail/Telegraph
Why does Britain have to involve itself in wars on foreign lands?
Thank you Colin from Portsmouth... love to the family...love to the family
I don’t agree with either one of those two callers! They’re both very extreme
well said donna👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿
I like Tom but his understanding of why what happened in Libya happened (and the aftermath) is pretty basic and partly incorrect.
Let’s be honest Libya was just a quick side mission.
Obama and Cameron thought they quickly loot the place without troops and they were correct.
Why are LBC always on the side of the migrant? And ridicules and insults anyone who has any criticism of the thousands who turn up on our coasts. Having travelled through countless "safe" countries.
Tories are the problem, not the poor
LBC definitely feels like its getting very right leaning
every migrant has the right to seek asylum in europe. this is an ESSENTIAL HUMAN RIGHT ❤❤❤❤❤
@@christhomson8924
And we in Europe have the right to say no.
Are you being sarcastic? LBC is now known as the Lefty Brainwashing corporation. Lammy ? Frie ? o Brien . Mair ? Marr ?
@@christhomson8924a genuine asylum seeker would seek asylum in the first safe country they get to but they All shop around Europe looking for the softest country with the best , easiest benefits, which is often Soft Touch Benefits Britain
@@christhomson8924You housing any undocumented fighting aged men from holiday destination countries then?
Donna was absolutely 100% correct
A genuine question.
If it is determined that it is not safe for an asylum seeker to return to their country, is the country processing their claim obliged to accept them?
If not, if they can't go home, where are they expected to go?
Italy could end up accepting all genuine refugees if this were the case.
Asylum seekers can claim in any country they want. This "safe country" statement is incorrect
@@jeremymerrifield7244
Well they can’t really expect to be taken seriously by their end country then, jf they’ve travelled through multiple safe countries to arrive there.
@@yingtonRefugees are not obliged by international law to stop in the nearest’safe countries’ . Refugees may decide to head to a country like Britain because they may have relatives there or speak the language. The number of ‘safe countries’ that they travel through isn’t something that would be considered in their application
The last guy got it.
100% agree with you
Gerneral migration is out of control, the largest army to attack this country was 30,000, the amount of people that immigrated here last year was 1,200,000 people.
Donna is 100% correct
That first caller, Jesus wept, the Daily Mail, the Sun, Express, GBNews, et al sure did a number on these folk.
It should be a bare minimum that in order to visit or stay anywhere you must be required to support yourself
Don’t put them on ferries, TURN BACK THE BOATS like Australia did. Problem fixed
Love you Donna
We bombed germany in ww2 and havnt been flooded with germans seeking asylum !
The 1st caller sounds very insecure.
If he'd worked hard in his life, got a decent education, worked on getting his own decent job and raising his own living standards, he wouldn't be worried about immigration.
Sounds like the 1st caller feels threatened by immigration.
The Werstern World has pumped in TRILLIONS of POUNDS , DOLLARS , EUROS ..... into Africa but to what avail ? They couldn't fix their own problems with the money . I don't have a solution 😭🇬🇧
The government is now spending eight million pounds of tax payers money a day on just hotels alone for the channel crossers . This figure works out to almost three billion pounds a year .
All this is happening whilst British people struggle to eat and heat
Tories are the ones to blame ..after all they caused this mess 😢
No labour foreign policy started the unsustainable influx
@tories...yep....the lockdown was disastrous and those responsible should be brought to book...I agree.....
@@chatham43
Labour foreign policy caused the initial unsustainable influx
Just who created the problem or haven't you stopped to think about that. since 2010 the staffing levels of people that process refugees has remained the same they've barely processed the same amount of refugees and the amount of refugees has increased massively especially after leaving the EU as the UK was no longer part of the Dublin agreement. (Are you managing to keep up or is this too much for tiny exceptionist mind to take onboard?) not enough staff = Not as many cases processed... More Refugees do to Brexit = big backlog.. Big backlog of cases = More refugees waiting to be processed resuting in refugees being put into hotels and it's not the refugees fault that British people are struggling to eat and heat they haven't been running Britain since 2010 . Here's another thing for you to think about £3 billion a year on hotel bills how many of those hotels are owned by Tory donors and chums and how much would it cost to set up processing in France. Have a nice day!!!
We don’t have room infrastructure is crippled
We have had brexit, but still can't have control over our own borders. Its not brexit is it Mr Sunak?
4:10 points made 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 nothing she say was a lie
Yep dont give them anything they will soon paddle back
Prime example of the type of person who has been radicalized by the Daily mail
"Blame ourselves" as if we are all individually responsible or complicit for the deeds of the ruling classes hundreds of years ago.
It shouldn't be this easy to abuse or asylum system, we shouldn't have a home office that is ordered not to be skeptical about asylum claims.
This is the ancestral homeland of the British, all people's deserve one this is ours!
Most Britons can trace their DNA back to pre Roman Britain, this narrative that we have never had cultural homogeneity is false!
We should curate and be proud of our culture and not only have a small oasis for the middle classes, I don't see any drive towards multiculturalism for the sake of multiculturalism in their towns and neighborhoods......
It's all about lowering the value of labour and increasing the value of housing and services.
Sceptical about asylum claims before they are carried out?
To deport people who have no right to be in the country, it helps if you can identify who they are.
Our elected government is 100% responsible for not identifying these people.
He thinks they wouldn’t come if they got no benefits 🤣
"70% are granted asylum". And 94% are granted permission to stay after appeal. In France 34% are granted asylum. No appeal.
If they have left the wonderful EU, they can go back to the wonderful EU.
she is right...were experiencing "pay back"
Because of Brexit we cannot send them back to the EU country where they entered.The British people are running out of patience with the Government . Unfortunately 5:11
If our reason for "towing them back to France" is that France is a safe country, couldn't France return them to Britain citing the same reason?
Ultimately, it comes down to the 'safeness' of the origin of an asylum seeker's journey rather than where they make their legal claim for asylum.
Where do asylum seekers get the idea that Britain is a 'soft touch'?
From 'Boat People Daily' and its online equivalent?
If their asylum claim is rejected, they are deported.
Let's try a plan of deporting those who have no legal right to stay here by processing their claims.
My Dad told me that he heard this same argument 60 years ago…..nothing has changed….sigh……😮
The solution is simple: when an asylum seeker lands in Dover you say: 'Bonjour! Être-vous perdu?'
It may also be helpful to paint a massive Tricolore on the cliffs ...
Tom doesn’t really have a grasp on the consequences of our foreign policy
Send them back or do send them back
The Royal navy could just open fire on them.
Legally sending them back is impossible. There are so many legal implications so it’s not possible.
Ironically, it was possible before brexit because we had a returns agreement
I remember I lived in the Middle East and all the countries there will pretty much never give anyone citizenship which guarantees people will not really bother trying to come and if your illegal and male you will be imprisoned until they can return you and it really does solve a lot of the problems here in the UK 🇬🇧. But this will never be done here as it is seen as extreme.
Just let them in.. we have got unlimited room here.. we have a vast amount of empty housing.. our NHS is empty and needs patients.. schools are empty.. in short just let them in.. we have loads of room
Most of the mess is created by the empire
....13 disastrous years of colonialism...absolutely....😊😂
It's all about money for the government they don't care about social cohesion or our infrastructure it doesn't effect them, they see migrant men as more beneficial in terms of work, the government is depending too much on immigration.
6:04 you had the opportunity to say no, it just didn’t matter Johnathan was 100% correct
Sad that Tom balks at the the use of a word that describes the British actions for many centuries.
Is that builder trying to say he wants to vote reform... because holy moly fella further to the right is not a solution 😳.
I'm gonna go to Sweden. They came here and pillaged... What a joke
I wish Tom was James Obrien.
It can be stopped. Just tow them back to France. Give it a few weeks and it’ll be ended
To wherever they came from..
Second caller made many many great points 😬
Love all these little englanders 😂😂😂
Tom is very poor.
Loved it that atleast 2 people stood out and blamed UK for today's problem... 👏🏼