Hands-OFF! Is Tesla's Full Self-Driving or GM's Super Cruise BETTER On Twisty Mountain Highways?
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- Опубликовано: 15 янв 2025
- ( www.alltfl.com/ ) Check out our new spot to find ALL our content, from news to videos and our podcasts! Hands-free driving systems are increasingly common these days, especially in expensive EVs like the Tesla Cybertruck and the Chevy Silverado EV RST. But which system is BETTER: Tesla's Full Self-Driving (Supervised) or GM's Super Cruise? Jen and Alex find out in this test, going hands-off in the Colorado mountains!
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Pretty sure FSD didn't "kick you off". I think you probably applied too much torque to the wheel (which is completely understandable, given that you were worried about how close to the wall it was driving) and this disconnected FSD.
Yep 100% she disengaged it and it didn't kick her out. The truck would of been fine but it does get too close for comfort. Also the speed issue is somewhat resolved in version 13. I'm sure she is on 12.
I really don't get why Jen keeps her hands on the wheel? her nudging the wheel is definitely what kicked it out of FSD... Alex is at least using GM's Super Cruise as it was intended where as Jen is not really using here system correctly.
Exactly. FSD never “kicked her out”, as a driver of FSD Beta (now FSD Supervised) for the last four years, it has NEVER done that. She simply doesn’t know the first thing about the system or how it works
I understand wanting to keep your hands near the wheel, it is safer. It just rubs the FSD drivers/fans the wrong way since many of them don’t touch the wheel anymore
@ there’s a difference between wanting to keep your hands near it for safety. And holding the wheel and not letting the system just work like Alex was
@ they should’ve swapped cars 1/2 way or did a loop style if they’re going to have such different driving styles
I have FSD in my model Y hardware 4, and it’s never been hands off bright sun or night time, if the interior cam can’t track your eyes it makes you put force to the wheel every 15 seconds or so.
Wow TFL needs people who know these systems before they go compare them. There are profiles on FSD and so many other things that affect the speed and assertiveness. Jen disengaged by turning the wheel...
You are correct, but they filmed this video prior to the v13 release to the CT, so no profiles at that time. Unfortunately, this content is obsolete the day it aired.
Please redo this video with staff that is up to speed with the different systems. With FSD you don’t need to touch the wheel. This is really misleading for people that have not experienced Tesla FSD.
Correct! And Supercruise is not a FSD system.
Unfortunately, they've already sold the cyber truck so until there's a refresh or someone lends them another, that's not going to be possible
@ TFL is a well known and wealthy company. They can get a truck borrowed very easily.
FSD didn’t “kick you out” you can clearly see you put to much force on the steering wheel because you were nervous by the wall, so it disengaged.
So should she have let it possibly crash? I doubt Tesla would pay for the repairs since the driver is supposed to be monitoring (which is what she did by moving the wheel).
If correcting the system's mistake results in it "disengaging" then it is the same as it "kicking you out."
@@stephenj4937 ever seen a video where one of the millions of Teslas on the road ever hit a divider while using FSD?
@ well that’s a dumb reply. “Kicking you out” and you disengaging it are completely different things. FSD does not just kick you out with no warning, that is very dangerous. If she just said she disengaged because she was uncomfortable then fine but she didn’t.
I feel like y'all just pulled a Clarkson Top Gear Tesla thing here kinda.
Basically every video involving tesla they do something completely inaccurate. I've gotten used to it at this point.
@larryspiller15 Ahh so some bias is definitely showing gotcha.
@TheRogueAttraction yeah.. it's a company wide vendetta against Tesla because they have never given them a press car. TFL is accustome to being flown to fancy locations, put up in nice hotels, and wined and dined for the press releases of most OEM's vehicles. Tesla doesn't do that sort of thing and TFL doesn't understand that and take it personal. They do silly things like buy a Model 3 performance in 2023 and sell it the next year when the redesign all new 2024 model has came out. Then they complain about the resale value like it's some kind of anomaly. It pathetic. Not one mention/acknowledgement about the fact that they bought the most expensive trim (always the highest depreciation for mass production vehicles) and the other fact that the brand new model came out when they were selling it. Like what would happen if you bought a loaded M4 that was out for 7 years and then sold it the next year when the new model came out??? Like come on. With tesla they lose all common sense every time.
They’re pretty much known for their hatred of Tesla at this point.
Bad review, you need tech savy people who read the manual first so they understand why the vehicle is doing what it is, not just guessing...
You are right! Both are also different systems and work different. Obviously they didn’t know too much about that.
I think you're missing an important point. They do testing for every day people and your typical driver is not going to read the manual. They're most likely going to just get in and start driving and figure out how to do full self driving on the fly.
95% of people don’t read the owners annual. They just hop in and go. They are doing real world reviews for NORMAL people.
I’m not sure how I’m supposed to feel about this. It’s like they don’t ’practice’ what they do, or mention that they are on some of the most technically difficult sections of the US interstate system. I definitely don’t like fan boy reviews like Dirty Tesla, but these videos could be so much better.
I agree
JEN TAKE YOUR HANDS OFF THE WHEEL!!! 🙄
Thats against the law. FSD users are required to keep their hands on the wheel.
@jenniferspencer3095 so is not sefl driving then
@@jenniferspencer3095 No they aren't, that hasn't been required in a very long time. Was called 'Nag' when you had to touch the steering wheel periodically throughout the drive. You no longer need to do any of this
@@Jay-pf6ln Truth
Tesla wants you to keep your hands on the wheel.
Supercruise is not considered Full Self Driving. As others have said, I believe the construction zones had a lot to do with the need to take control, as the lanes had clearly shifted.
Seriously, the Tesla System gets a pass because it's the system's literal name (not okay).
However these systems should properly be referred to as "ADAS", "driver assist", "hands free cruise control", ect.
But they should not be called "full self driving systems". "Full self driving competitors" fine, but not "full self driving".
Which is funny because it clashes with the conclusion of the video, and the point the hosts were trying to make. That these systems are observation only.
Tesla's system isn't full self-driving either other than in name. It's blatant false advertising
The drawback with all the other self driving platforms is Tesla's FSD can be used on other roads, not just highways.
Also, FSD continues to work with no clear sight of the sky and no internet connectivity.
@@lochnessmonster4518so does my supercruise lol
@@khoatran9482 doesn't seem to work well in tunnels from my test drive but maybe that was just a coincidental disengagement. I had a lot of those during my test drive. Also only works on highway so it's essentially autopilot at best and not FSD. Being able to tow using FSD will be a future software update.
@@lochnessmonster4518 FFSD better all around. But I've driven over 20k mi with super cruise. And my daily commute is about 90% supercruise. It's not perfect but it's been nearly flawless even in snow and rainstorms, and yes even in tunnels and less stressful than past FFSD. I have not tried the newer version 13.xx of FFSD.
That is by design, not a drawback. Personally, I think anyone using FSD in a school or residential zone should be ticketed for reckless driving.
You shoulda had somebody drive the cybertruck that wasnt scared of it. And knew how it worked.
The sunglasses may have made the Super Cruise think the driver wasn't paying attention.
It’s possible, but I’ve been really impressed with how SC sees through sunglasses. At first I thought it was just cutting me some slack due to the sunglasses but I’ve tested it by rolling my eyes away from the road (I had my wife in the passenger seat watching for any hazards) and it was able to tell where my eyes were looking even through my sunglasses.
"Its hugging the left side" switches to show camera footage of it centered in lane.
At the 13 min mark, FSD didn’t cancel she did by holding onto the wheel when truck was in control of the steering wheel. When FSD aborts it tells you before and flashes a red screen telling you to take over
OK, slower speeds on FSD indicates an older version - please do more tests with latest version, please!
They no longer have either vehicle in their fleet (traded in the CT for an ID Buzz and the Silverado was clearly a manufacturer loaner). This is a comparison of what both vehicles were capable of when they ran the test. If Tesla and GM want to provide vehicles for them to test again I'm sure they would be happy to, but they have limited financial resources and can't hold on to a Cybertruck forever.
You should tell the audience which FSD version you were using.
They should. And it was v12, so video is obsolete the day it went live.
My biggest issue with me getting a new car other than Tesla is the full self driving works on city streets and rural roads whereas all these other systems from Ford and Chevy require mapped major highways. That’s a deal killer. My hundred mile commute is all rural roads.
FSD is literally the only game in town. Nobody else even comes close.
Most of my road trips are across rural Georgia and Alabama. I’ve been pleased with how many back country roads are compatible with Super Cruise. It does cancel out as you approach towns though. I don’t really mind that, it helps put me on notice to slow down and look for cops. Once you get through the town, SC is available again.
FSD is really slow in the city. You’re gonna get honked at a lot. We don’t use it anymore.
Define "works" lol.
Supercruise requires highways, but the regular ADAS systems function on all roads just like the Tesla. The only difference is that you can go hands-free on the highway but not around town.
FSD on Cybertruck is hands-free. Pull this video down and try again.
All of these issues for FSD are resolved in 13.2.2 or newer. You need to always know the version or fair compariasons are impossible.
If you need to worry about software versions to ensure your car operates properly, FSD is not ready.
@JB-101 Define ready.
I am not sure I want to argue about software versions to the fourth digit when it comes to vehicles driving safely and not causing problems or crash. The stakes are a bit higher than for iPhone software versions.
Yeah, I’m all for the new presenters, but I expect your content to be more educated than this was.
It still astounds me that after all these years there are still automotive "EXPERTS" out there that still do not know how Teslas work. And you are pairing one system thats almost robotaxi ready to a system thats basically a party trick.
Supercruise disconnected because of being in a construction zone (IMO from what I saw in your video); better safe than sorry (you still have to pay attention).
Yeah. That last disengagement was definitely a construction zone issue. You can even see on the road where the new lane marks were painted and the old lane marks were still visible.
Yes, that zone that started inside the tunnel looks like an area where supercruise would not work. We have it in our car and it works most of the time. Newly established construction zones do cause it to shut down.
We are very happy with it.
Actually supercruise is a little aggressive when auto lane change is on. We just turn that off and manually change lanes.
@@craigzellner4159 I haven't used the version with auto lane change. If that's something that can be turned on and off, I wonder whether they had it disengaged for this video.
@ It looks like it was turned off based on what I could see in the video. It can be turned on and off by the driver.
Settings > Vehicle Personalization > Super Cruise Lane Change.
Definitely sounded like Jen turned the wheel which disengaged FSD, Tesla will beep loud if it can't handle it.
Hey guys, you didn’t notice the “construction zone speed limit”? Speed limit 45. You’re going too fast to be legal. This time, it the drivers behind the wheel.
Imagine comparing Tesla FSD to GM's Super Cruise in 2024 😂
(It is not even a competition anymore.)
I'm looking forward to you guys having someone who actually knows those systems.
Try using the FSD 13.2.2 update, it’s truly incredible. Got over 1000 miles on it the last few days road trips and city driving it does basically everything.
Cybertruck? I wish they could've shown us the part where it tries to take you all the way to your destination, as Jen mentioned.
This is old footage, right?
Yes
Jen doesn’t know what she’s doing. Also she is not up to speed on all the features of FSD. She kicked it out of FSD by turning the wheel.
Seems like it should be more intuitive then.
Orr she has way to much anxiety@@houseofroos
Owning a Tesla, I understand the desire to pull in the direction of the curve. Sometimes FSD gets too close to the edge of the road.
OOOPSSS....
Yet another butt hurt Tesla fanboy.
Tesla is FAR behind the competition today
@@stennordenmalm1735 I’m not a Tesla fan boy but even I know that’s untrue. Their technology is better than the competition.
Also, if I had a dollar for every time someone called the Cybertruck “PoLaRiZinG, a kid drawing, a door stop, trash bin” etc. what an NPC take, kudos🤣
Wearing dark, reflective sunglasses when comparing an automaker with a very conservative DMS against an automaker that refers to driver monitoring as "nagging" is a bit suspect. I've had Super Cruise disengage after I watched a truck in my sideview for a couple of seconds too long, but I don't blame it. The primary purpose of self driving systems should be safety; convenience should be secondary.
FSD will NEVER just “kick” you out. Ever.
Weird that there's no mention of which version of the software they are using. Kinda like complaining why their iPhone 5 is no longer installing apps.
Since Tesla is updating the software versions for FST every few weeks, I would have loved to have heard you guys specify which version you were using at the time of the test. I loved that you actually did a comparison test, though, as I haven't seen anybody else do it!
Crucial to have the latest FSD and to let us know the version. Good comparison!
What FSD version is the Cyberyruck on?
You really need to state the software version when you do these test. Just saying latest doesn't help when we don't know when you filmed this. My guess is this is not the latest as there is no mention of speed profiles - aka - chill, standard, and hurry. The current latest for CT is 13.2.2 as of 12/26/2024 and it is quite good and only going to get better. Blue cruise is nice but doesn't compare well to FSD and only works on pre-mapped roads.
They sold the CT earlier this month, so it is a comparison of what both vehicles had at the time of the test
Bro fraud self driving has had more updates than you can ever track - it's not going to get magically better in a months time, and it will NEVER work as Tesla claims.
what version of FSD are you using?
In the Cybertruck, it seemed to hug the left side of the lane when you were headed into the sun. I wonder if the glare going into the glass lenses of the camera was washing out the image.
Always quote the FSD version when doing a test! It improves/changes very quickly, so important to know how old this version is!
The speed issues have been resolved in the latest versions for example
Always depend on a Tesla Stan to be in the comments making excuses for Tesla.
Based on the average person. They probably won't check the version when using a particular feature.
@@TroySavary i mean he's not wrong tho
@@mcsike7264 Tesla Stans have been saying "Just wait for the next version" for 10 years now.
@@TroySavary am not really one of em i just say it improves every update which it dose it handles 90% of trips
This is the first video of your's I've seen and I am pretty impressed. I only have FSD for my Model Y, so I can't say Jen didn't have problems with the Cybertruck. When a driver gets nervious, it is very easy to disengage FSD without realizing you tugged on the wheel. FSD on the Cybertruck is programmed with a newer and small data set compared to the rest of Tesla's cars, so it may still have some rough edges that have finally been smoothed out on FSD for the cars. FSD often cuts its speed becasuse there is specific logic to slow down on what it thinks may be windy, narrow or bumpy roads. FSD with towing may be a challenge until Tesla has some way of putting rear view cameras on the back of the trailer and calibrating them for position, height and distance behind. FSD was specifically designed to need to see well to the rear, so I doubt Cybertruck will allow FSD with a trailer until they have a camera add-on. You'd want these camera's any way so you can back up a trailer, especially a boat trailer. FSD and the Cybertruck are both works in progress. Fortunately Tesla has huge teams working on both FSD and the Cybertruck to make them better. Pricewise, you could have put the current $80,000 Cybertruck up against the $96,000 Silverado and justified the price difference with the extra range of the SIlverado. I don't know enough about the SIlverado to comment much on it. Maybe another reader of your's will.
Jen, I always said it looks like a 10 year old designed a truck on a 1980s computer. But when you called it a door stop I had a good laugh and glad I was not drinking anything at that time!! thank you for a good laugh.
FYI: In many states, those walkie talkies might be illegal to use while driving. It's silly, but it could get you ticketed.
Both trucks disengaged at the construction zone, I guess is a safety behavior, which is good I believe.
No, the Cybertruck's FSD did not disengage, Jen did, by trying to steer it to the right. It wasn't about to hit the wall, she just doesn't know how it works. She was freaking out over nothing.
@@ZipZoomZip If so, I won't blame Jen for doing it and avoid an unnecessary hit with the barrier.
@@Marco-ce8kr Ummm, yeah, the Tesla wasn't moving towards the barrier, it was just closer than she was comfortable with. The real problem is the way she reported it, saying that it self-disengaged. You can clearly see her jerk her hand on the wheel in a very unnatural quick jerk. She disengaged FSD manually, and tried to pretend that she didn't. It seems like purposefully biased coverage. At least that is consistent with the last 7 years of TFL coverage of Tesla. They think people can't see this because they are clever. But only the dumbest people can't see it. I don't know how they sleep at night pushing false and misleading narratives.
When it comes to Nissan’s Pro-Pilot 2.0 hands-free system, it kicks offline when it sees orange traffic cones and barrels along the side of the road - since it considers that a construction zone. Nissan Pro-Pilot 2.0 works fine with handsfree driving when towing a trailer too.
I recall GM’s Supercruise doesn’t like it when lane configuration gets changed in construction, much like Nissan.
This section of interstate looks to be an unending section of re-stripes, lane adjustments, temporary barriers and barrels - and Supercruise will shut off when the recorded LIDAR mapping doesn’t match what the cameras and GPS sees. You guys should do testing on sections of road that aren’t all torn up.
When Alex is not happy the fandom is not happy. 😂. Well done our iconic goat I’m proud of you. Jenn Outstanding as well. Also. Alex. Congratulations to you as well 5 years at Tfl now. So proud of you I’m beyond proud of you
Neither one of them know what they are doing on this review.
No comparison. FSD can drive just about anywhere. Bluecruise only highways. So GM is touting just a beefed up cruise control feature. Also are you using FSD 13.2? Big difference from previous version.
I've driven thousands of miles with Super Cruise engaged in my Bolt EUV. Overall, the system is great, but it isn't meant to work in construction zones where this test was done. The system is meant for open highways to reduce fatigue, not so much for the most winding stretch of I-70 in the US
Need some reviewers who read the manual first, or maybe read some owner forums first. You don’t “set the speed” on the Cybertruck, you tell it the amount you are willing to let it go over the speed limit to keep up with traffic. The truck can see the road and knows based on the road conditions and the traffic and it decides how fast to go. And it can do that anywhere, not just on certain highways like the Chevy.
I have the CT and it looks like you're not on the latest software that has speed profiles, Chill, Standard, Hurry and the hugging the left part of the lane has been improved. Also that fact that the CT can execute point to point FSD integrated with the Navigation is in a completely different category than the Silverado which I had not seen in action til this video. Thanks for the comparison, good stuff.
I can't get over how they allowed the cybertruck to get by not being able to see out the back without using the camera
I tried Bluecruise for first time traveling for holidays on my F150 Lightning. It was decent but I actually started getting nauseous as it was compensating for the curves. A three year sub came with the truck but when that's done doesn't seem to justify and I'd rather drive myself.
This video was filmed on a CT with v12 FSD, but aired after CTs all upgraded to v13 which is a vast improvement.
love my duramax silverado, love supercruise, great road trip combo, towing or not
Appreciate your videos! But just so you know, Tesla FSD will only kick you out/disengage if you tap on the brake or turn the steering wheel. If the truck kicks you out, it will show up in red and beep, telling you to take over.
At one point you went to change lanes in the Chevy and left the blinker clicked down. It kicked you off because it thought you wanted to keep cutting across the freeway. If you just partially push down the turn stock it will signal untill the lane change is complete then shut off the blinker and it wouldn't have kicked you out.
I don't think this was a good test for either vehicle because you seemed to be in a construction zone the entire time. I realize that construction is a constant occurrence but since it is still a new technology you probably should have chosen a different stretch of highway.
There is a camera behind your steering wheel for supercruise. So if you pick up a phone (walki talki) or dont look straight it turns off super cruise.
I'm glad FSD is continuing to improve, although the reliance on cameras and no radar or lidar would keep me from opting for it were I acquiring a new Tesla.
What version of FSD are you using? I believe you are incorrect about towing with at least with V13.2.2 FSD.
This isn't a fair comparison at all. I don't own a Chevy EV but when I was EV shopping even I was told that super cruise isn't full self driving. Whereas Tesla's is considered full self driving because it can get you to your destination without you touching the wheel at all.
Hell, there's even been news reports of people sleeping behind the wheel on their way to work in their Tesla...
Even legislators have been trying to get Tesla to rename or tweak their full self driving to classify it as "level 2" so people don't rely on it completely like they've been doing...it is by all accounts a safety hazard and probably why other manufacturers don't incorporate it fully on their cars...
Other ev's have some kind of safety measure so that you have to take control from time to time, whether it's a sensor for your eyes or timed touch sensor on the steering wheel...
The car I settled for ('23 ev6) has a timed sensor where I can let go of the wheel but if I haven't touched it within 2 or 3 minutes it gives an oncreen warning, and if I go longer it will vibrate the wheel and then it will disengage if you don't at least interact with the wheel once...this, along with lane centering and adaptive cruise control is enough to give you an ALMOST hands/peddle free ride. Which is safer than what Tesla has to offer.
Next time, maybe try comparing apples to apples.
I have Tesla Model Y with Trailer Hitch, and it can use FSD with a Trailer on Interstate. Now if Cybertruck can use FSD with latest update of 13.2 no idea there.
As for the Cybertruck disengagement, I noticed on that part you had your hands on the wheel, and it’s a fine line before the steering input and the point where it thinks you’re taking control.
Automatic operation is fine when it works. “Otto” can be your friend. At times monitoring can be more stressful than performing the task.
You need your staff to learn a LOT about how Super Cruise and FSD work. Jenn, go watch videos by Savage Junkie 96 and Black Tesla. They don't ever have their hands on the wheel unless they are deliberately disengaging the FSD. Also Super Cruise disengagement depends on mapping and road condition.
How can you compare the mapped Chevy system to the Tesla FSD that works anywhere??
The RST towing capacity is 10,000 lbs, the only one so far with 12,500 is the 3WT. The bed not having the split from the cab is the same as the old Chevy Avalanche which also had the folding cab option. GM should have named it the Avalanche EV 😂.
Wow! From your comments you were clearly prejudiced against the CT. There is no need to keep your hands on the wheel with FSD. She never specified how she had the FSD set (chill, standard or aggressive) nor did she state what she set her maximum speed to. All that makes a difference in what speed the FSD decides to drive. The truck didn't cancel FSD Jen did by overriding the the steering. Also, what version of FSD was the CT using? V13 is the most current and is much better than V12
Normally also a fan of TFLEV, but I agree with many others that this review was problematic at best. From a safety point of view, here are some quick issues:
1. Calling FSD GM Supercruise “self driving” is incorrect, despite various marketing claims. Both are Level 2 ADAS. For short, at least just call them “driver assist” which is what they are rated as
2. Putting these systems in situations for which they are not recommended, such as a construction zone, is a lose-lose proposition because if they don’t work you claim the system struggles, but if they do fine you give the misguided impression that they should be used here
3. I don’t represent GM, but I have a feeling if you asked them about using Super cruise as you did here, they would advise that the system isn’t rated for difficult situations and the driver should use their best judgment
In short … not a fan of torture tests like this without serious disclaimers upfront that you are going against the manufacturer’s recommended use of these systems
Does FSD not support letting the user spin the volume or speed dial instead of tugging on the wheel ? (My 2018 model 3 did for AP; not sure if things have changed )
Driving into the sun is the most difficult thing for the supercruise system to do. I assume the same can be said for FSD.
Read the manual first, then test vehicle.
One question….how much does one -24” run flat replacement tire cost in the middle of no where? Never mind the cost of four because for sure I can’t afford a set.
you're literally on the internet
And what’s the chance even one 24” tire is in local stock.
Neat how Openpilot had been adapted to modern Tesla vehicles, for even more flexibility and another choice, such as for engineers.
I think the summation cleared up some things, so I didn’t mind the lack of familiarity with the driving systems as much. But you have to get through the whole video to get there! For the next video, please state which versions you’re using. You said a bunch of hardware specs, but not software specs
You did not state which FSD version you were running, but it looks like Version 12 or earlier. Version 13 is a huge improvement, and each point iteration is magnitudes better. Teslas FSD can drive you from parking spot to parking spot. I did not see Supercruise handle stop lights, stop signs, exits, and everyday life, which FSD can. As far as the FSD disengagement, that was because she got scared and moved the steering wheel too much. You should call this a Highway test. A real test would be a mix of highway, city, and country. Oh, wait, Super Cruise can't do that.
Geez, Chill out people... Yeah, Jen touching the wheel is what booted you out of FSD, but with V12 I did the same thing as it was for sure too close to the left wall. Jen, I also would be interested in if you are running the latest FSD 13.2? I had the exact speed control issue and that update seems to have fixed it for good. With FSD 13.2, confidence is really high on it performing nearly flawless.
I noticed that I had to change the steering wheel height so the sensors can see my eyes properly with super cruise
My Model Y on basic autopilot does better than the Chevy system. And it works fine on rural roads.
Polarizing and Pre-mapped is all you need to say. Buh-buy!
Super cruise is just a stop gap system in case you nod off , meant for full self driving.
What version of fsd is Jen using?
We are so far from full FSD! Great content idea. Well done. I think I’ll buy the GMC Denali EV in about two years.
If the CT is an early version 12 then it had a setting that allowed it to 'select' the 'best' speed, and it would routinely drop speed. That has been changed, Version 13 is much better. Use the CT visualization to know what it is seeing and how it will react.
That was lane drifting, it does it on local and highway. Even when there is a vehicle beside you it tends to drift awfully close by drifting. Sometimes at a red light it will start to go. Those are the two biggest regressions I hate about FSD 13.2.2
I get that the reviewers didn’t understand or weren’t fully aware why the trucks “kicked” them out of their self driving modes but my defense for them is that many of your regular everyday customers who may purchase these vehicles might not know how all of this works either. Granted dropping 100k for a truck, you would hope the customer would research every bit of the vehicle and its features, but some people will pick either of these two up may just buy it because they look cool and expect their self driving features to just work with minimal understanding or effort.
@0:45 did u hear what he said? works on "pre-mapped" highway....... oh crap, if the highway is under some sort of maintenance or construction, would that still work?, or if the highway (any) has lane expansion of any kind of change, that wouldn't work anymore, would it?
Yes it does still work. It just won't be hands-free anymore. It'll still work just like every other hands-on system.
I’ve never seen Tesla just disengage like that. Is it possible she tugged on the wheel too hard and it let go?
If you have FSD 13 and still have the CT. Try a drive from the office. You cannot really understand how superior FSD is if you only use the GM 'pre-mapped' routes.
If I had to guess Supercruise is clocking the handheld radio as a cell phone and flagging you for it...
Fun review that represents what the average driver would experience.
When you put a device in your hands, the camera thinks you are not paying attention.
Get someone who knows how these systems are supposed to work to test them. Jan is obviously unfamiliar with the Tesla system and operates it incorrectly. Any of the current systems would pass this test. If you can’t work on the mapped highway you are not dealing with a modern system. super cruise or Tesla FSD CAN DO THIS DRIVE WITHOUT A DRIVER. THIS TEST IS A JOKE.
I got off the video after 2 minutes reading the comments where I see people say she doesn't know how to use FSD.
So, if this is made out of ignorance and they end up claiming Silverado system is better (which isn't), it's just dumb.
They claim neither system is really up to par. And if you are supposed to take your hands off the wheel, why doesn't a message to that effect appear on the screen?
Jens bias is out for full display... Mentioning several times how something is "polarizing' showed that.
Cyber Trucks are polarizing... Ugly as hell... Has nothing to do with the wrap. In my neck of the woods, CT drivers are how we tell who the village idiot is. lolol They are growing on me over time... I do own a model Y performance and love it.
MY Model 3 with FSD is FREAKING AMAZING from driveway to destination it gets there. If you go out on a Friday or Saturday night a Tesla is what you want to be taking you home. THATS FORSURE.
The FSD may have kicked you out due to severe glare, which is one issue it does need to work on.
First off, It seems Jen is on "Chill" mode. Not Standard or Hurry. Either other option would have stayed up to speed better.
Also, SHE kicked it out of FSD by moving the wheel. The vehicle wasnt that far to the left. Leave your hands off the wheel.
Repeat after me. “There is no hands free driving!”
Please get testers that actually know the systems & vehicles. Her takeover was caused by her actions & torque she was applying. They had no idea how these 2 very different systems operate & to be utilized successfully. What versions of software?
The Silverado EV definitely looks much better than the Cybertruck, I'm not even a fan of big wheels but those wheels look great on that truck.
2 questions... Does Silverado EV do over the air updates? So if they update Supercruise, you won't have to go to the dealer? Also, can you make a video where you try to let Cybertruck take you all the way to your destination? (I realize you've traded it in on the ID BUZZ, but next time you get one).
Is it true GM plans a TrailBoss version of this truck? That'd be cool. I'd love to see how it compares off-road to other EVs.
1. yes 2. maybe 3. it can't do it so why even try? video would last 30 seconds.