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Thank you for this - I've seen people making literally billions, whilst I'm struggling to stock enough limpets for a 20m run.
What ship are you using? How much cargo? And how much cargo are you making out with every run?
@@ironjawedangels2812 I'm using an Anaconda with around 170t cargo! 🙄😂
I've messed up once or twice with the seismic charges but, I just can't find enough deep-core rocks.
@@miggymod dang, well hope this video helps. Thought your ship might have been too small
@@ironjawedangels2812 It's not small at all. As matter of fact, Conda is actually too big for deep core mining. Also sluggish. Not that it can not work, but you would be better with some smaller and more maneuverable ship like Python, Krait Mk2 or even Krait Phantom. You need smaller ship so you can "dance" around asteroids in order to put charges fast, also to collect minerals fast once you crack open the asteroid. Cargo is not that important for deep core mining. You sell minerals for 700k credits per ton or higher, so it is not an usual go-slow-and-turn-off-your-brain-500tons-mining. It is more a high value mining, you go in fast, find rock and mine it, then move at high speed until you find another one, repeat. Ship with 100t cargo can net you 70 millions or more in just about one hour, maybe an hour and half.
I've cracked it now lads, thanks. I managed to get 100t on my latest trip in the Conda, and I've shipped my Krait ii over now so I can be a bit more manageable around the asteroids. Thanks for the advice. 👍
It worked a treat. Two high yield charges in a couple of low strength fissures, and a low yield one in a high strength fissure, and boom, 14 tonnes of void opals. Cheers.
Potato shape = bad
Popcorn shape = good
100% sure
Hehe, well said
This is only true for icy rings. There are different models in different ring types, but there is only one model type per ring. Use the night vision display to find the fissures on the surface and learn the topology of the individual models before using your prospector limpets.
Yes indeed, but also note to people new to deep core mining.
It is NOT just the bright color you are looking for !!!!!!!
When you scan some of the "right" astroids light up, and just for
a brief second you see a black patch (sometimes with some green).
That is what you are looking for. A astroid that only shines bright are
those with high deposits in them.
Those astroids that also shine a dark black color for a brief second
are those with a core. If it is just black with no green at all (faint black),
you most likely have a Bromelite, or any other low price material.
Those astroids that have a deep and large black spot are more often
low pressure diamonds.
Those astroids that have deep black with green spots or tint are often
the Void Opals.
So dont just hunt the astroids on a bright yellow color. Because you will
search your ass off.
Also note that the black and green patches do NOT show up if you are
to close to the astroid. So if the black does not show up, look at a deep
red - orange color. If you are close to the astroid and it still emits a bright
yelloe light with deep orange / red, you have a deep core. Back up a bit
so you are at least 1 to 2 Kilometer away and scan again. If there is a
black patch popping in the view for a second, you struck gold !!
Flying in the belt now .. After reading your comment I see popcorn everywhere .. LOL
legitimately the best deep core mining guide on RUclips. No one else explains the use of seismic charges nearly as well
Thank you so much! I went from AspX to anaconda in under 24 hours with this method and I cant express how grateful I am.
Make sure you have an Ablation laser when you crack asteroids. In addition to the free-floating pieces of ore, there's a lot more sticking to the inside of the cracked pieces of the asteroid as they drift apart.
I noticed that the asteroids which have a core stay brighter as you get close, duds go dull as you go closer.
I though the same thing but after a while I found that this is not always the case. However, they are always one specific type of rocks which has the cores.
They are bright and have a green outer layer and as u get close you start seeing black spots
5:49 That rock had a core. Look how it pops up dark for a second? That's a core rock. Guaranteed. Also there are more than 1 model of rock for core deposits. I've found some in ice rings that look rocky/bumpy and others that have nodules of ice sticking out from. I think you're assuming too much here about the shape of the rocks.
Again though, usually a dead give-away is that the rock will flash a very dark contour while scanning and then go bright again. This becomes more apparent the closer you get as well.
Was looking for a comment like this that pointed out the "darkness" that pops up initially on the scan. +1 Like you, I've also found it to be a guaranteed way to spot them just by looking for that initial darkness after the pulse, right before it turns orange. Thanks for pointing this detail out for others. :)
@@codysheffield4469 Can you explain this "dark contour" that goes bright again?
I agree with you on the everything, he not only missed the asteroid but there is more than 20 models of asteroids that can spawn in 1 ring. I went mining for a good 3h and saw at best 2 of the same model once and the rest was all different. In my experiance of mining from the new update, the best way to spot an deep corable asteroid for long distance is to look for a very VERY bright yellow or orange colour rock and gets worce as you get closer. Some times it gets so biright that it either the asteroid is glitching out were you see green or black, or the light of the asteroid emites the light onto an other asteroid.
GizmoMaltese If your holding down the pulse scanner, you will see excessive ugly blocky darkness inside the rock for about a second before it turns orange like the rest. This only happens on crackables (edit: it is also more distinctive the further away from the rock you are, most obvious at about 1.5-2km and clears up the closer you get).There are others with dark lines but these are false positives. The crackables are a very distinct blotchy darkness on the initial pulse, and once you develop an eye for it, you can spot crackables a long ways off.
@@codysheffield4469 Thanks, I'll try this next time I go mining.
The best to know as well, is that the Core asteroids will always be bright from the scan, and also as you get closer there will be DEEP blacks.
They are also smaller then the others wich nobody m3ntions its always the small ones
Always remember to target the prospectors, as it gives the info on what’s in each rock your prospecting.
Thank you for taking the time to make this video with the detail that you did there are several others out like this but they don’t go in the detail that is needed to officially mine, great video!!!
I've really needed a good break down of how to distinguish between glowing asteroids with cores and ones with subsurface deposits. Often they're equally bright. This video is probably the best explanation I've seen. I didn't even know night vision was an option.
Thanks man! Your tips totally worked. Before it took me a long time doing trial and error on almost every asteroid that looked yellow. But now i found one in just a few minutes.
Thank you for this video. I cannot thank you enough bro, i watched videos after videos and read guides over and over and i just couldnt find the right cluster, didnt know how to set charges, didnt understand limpets. But thanks to you I finally got my first haul today! You made me achieved it!
made 600 million in two days.. ty D2EA - and thanks for the add to the squad!
Great video. I always put two maximum strength in two targets with a V then fire minimum strength into remaining until perfect yield. No need to check the 'contacts' screen.
Awesome tutorial as always! Thank you for being so thorough. I wasted many prospector limpets, but knowing what shape to look out for is amazing information. The night vision trick is super helpful, but I mine in an Anaconda, and it is highly annoying to see the entire front of my ship all lit up in NV mode. However, may as well activate it briefly to check for fissures haha! Thanks again.
The dark shadow that shows up in the pulse is the main thing to look for. Just look for a rock that glows brightly from a distance and turns dark as you approach while pulsing. The dark shadow in the pulse is the telltale sign of a core deposit.
thank you very much for these tutorials! i recently got back into ED and thankfully had an AspX all ready to go so all it took was some outfitting and then it was off to the tracks. your mining tutorials helped immensely, hoping to finally buy my Python later today!
Watching this remembering the good ol' days of functional pulse wave analyzers
I've been waiting for this video since the last one came out! Keep it up!
Great video. As i commented on your hello dave great info, meticulous attention to detail. Love your guide videos, even after years 9f playing elite on xb1 your videos always shine a light on something. Thank you.
Thank you! Been looking thru tons of videos and no one explains mining. Everyone explains their mining method, but you are the only person to explain, "How to mine". I wish I could thumbs up more than once.
Ps: when you disarm a charge, you lose the fissure point. I lost a gradidirite asteroid because of wrong strength measure..
I've read putting high in low fissures then fine tune with high/medium fissures. I've not tried yet but the post said it's fool proof guarantee.
Very well explained for a new CMDR. Thank you Sir. Keep up the good work, I'll be spreading your word.
Great guide, with the level of detail I needed and did not find in other video. Thank you!
i really wouldnt recommend flying with the planet at your side when mining.. if you end up turning upside down (which is easy to do when setting charges) you will end up suddenly with the planet on the opposite side of you but feeling like its on the correct side.. meaning you could end up going in circles. keep the planet either in front of you or behind.
this is why you need to establish a second landmark, like the position of the sun or whatever, so that you can determine which way to consider up consistently
I usually fly straight at the planet. You don't get much easier of a landmark than that.
Just keep the nav beacon (void opal hotspot) directly behind you, and the planet to your left or right and you won't be going in circles.
The best way for me is going to the star. The shaded side of an asteroid is the best one to look for fissures.
The best way to do that is to always have the "Hotspot" NAV on so you can see where the center is that way you can keep a direction of heading.
I must have watched all the guides on mining and this is the only that explained well enough. Very good information and its actually made mining feel relatively easy. Thank you very much. 😊
I didnt know about fissure strenght although I did deep core mining several times. Thanks.
Great, this was what I was looking for after shooting 60 limpets in a run and not finding anything.
What I still can't figure out, I'm 6 days in, is how big the hot spots are. I've been in tiny little ones with nothing to find around the center but when I moved 20+ km away the material I was looking for started to show up. It would be nice to have visual confirmation on the...ahum...ground how big the hot spot is.
Great video, lots of good tips.
Something else to keep in mind. Currently doing this while in a wing or having other people with you in the hotspot can more often than not prevent you from receiving any materials from cracking an asteroid open after the first one you find. It will also bug the UI for the optimal explosive yield and detonation timer and prevent it from showing.
very good explanaition.
I really like how your videos help me to understand this game!
Great video, found a mother load literally 5 mins after you saying how to identify them. Might have been luck but who cares I got money now lol
Pretty nice guide, looking forward to part II:)
Thanks for the video. Mining has become a lot of fun (and profitable ;) ) with this update. In addition to night vision, shining your ship's headlights on the asteroid can also make spotting a fissure a little bit easier before committing to a prospector limpet. I've found that depending on ambient lighting, one might work better than the other, but both useful to keep in your back pocket!
not just mining, exploration has become much more engaging since they added the new scan mechanics
also another tip is that an asteroid that has a core has a lot of black lines when you scan it. from a distance the black lines/grid are quite prominent and as you get closer the asteroid is very yellow with loads of black lines/grids. Also they have a green tinge on the outside of them
tyvm for the details on the explosions - my 'intuitive' guess about matching high fissures with high strength blasts was not working out very well.
it took me a few minutes to figure out that d2ea was not some obscure hexadecimal reference. too many years doing low level coding!
much appreciate your work.
I scan the belt from above. Point the nose down towards the belt a bit, set the throttle like you're going to dive back into the belt, then use the up thruster to move you forward... basically flying like a helicopter. That way I can pulse the entire depth of the belt and have a good view all around.
Great tutorial! Thank you for putting your time and effort into making this video!
In the end, best advice is to look for big rocks that shine so bright it hurts your eyes to look at them. With a little practice they are very easy to distinguish from the rest. This universal rule gets 100% result, makes you not waste probes and time on duds. Every time you spot one, it has a core, period.
Source: mined myself a billion into trade Elite rank.
Thanks for posting your Elite Dangerous videos. I'm now making huge profits thanks to your mining videos. It still took patience and perseverance but I couldn't have done it without your postings. As a result, I can now find (usually) core deposits within a few minutes of entering a pristine hotspot. Now, whether to search for additional deposits after mining one rock or make a run for it? Engaging Silent running.
You have a shitload of good advice, thank you ! Abrasion x2 glitch seems no longer available.
Nice tip about being too close to the rock and kamikaze limpets. Just butchered like 10 of them a few hours ago and learned hard way. "Old" video but still absolutely relevant.
You went past a core rock, also - popped popcorn, that's what you're looking for. If it goes black/green on pulse from up close that's definitely a core.
I'm just glad I learned how to mine asteroids so I can live out my own sci fi fantasy of blowing up asteroids like Jango fett in Star Wars. The millions of credits aren't a bad thing either
Thank you! I finally managed to get tons of credits out of void opals thanks to your tutorial
Excellent. I needed something like this.
Wow your RUclips vids are super duper cool. I am from Indonesia and I love your vids keep up the hard work and keep getting many subscriber
I noticed when the limpets are collecting (free camera) that a fragment can actually be several fragments clumped together and they return to get one piece at a time. Multiple abrasion blasters probably just separate the group instead of allowing them to stay clumped.
Great video D2A. I have been struggling to find good stuff in hotspots. Last night (Ice Ring) I came across an astroid that wasn't just bright yellow, but had a redness to it. It contained deep core deposits.
I'm new at this game, THANK YOU! Great tutorial :)
Thank you for this, very helpful 👍🏼
Best core mining vid I have seen yet.
Excellent video. Thanks again.
thanks for this tutorial, really enjoyed it! also good produced
Some very good tips thank you
Lol, I had no idea fissures were stronger or weaker than others. I always did 2.1.2.1.1.1.... (2 being a medium charge and 1 = low charge) if the initial 2 shot barely registered I’d add another 2 charge and I’d get all blue. Thanks! Love the vids and I’ve learned many of the nuances to the game.
Good video! Thanks for the info!
Cheers for that, helped me understand it finally
Hold the pulse wave down and when you are close enough to an asteroid that's lemon you'll see dark spots to signify it's a motherlode.
Danke! Du bist schön! I cracked my first motherload today, went to my own founded system of ice rings and the opals were hidden in a suspected diamond rock, not a huge yield but netted me 7mil, even better news is i did it in a annaconda! Its a defensive shield monster with a deep core weapon, abrasion blaster x2 and the standard min ing tools, 5a limpets and collectors an max Ly jump of 18.70! 150ton cap with two 64 cargo racks and a 8a engine :) my goal finnaly achieved which is to use a annaconda for ♡
Thanks to your video i understood why my "fishing" adventures have been ending with 10-15 mln (after several hours) only with 190 limpets shots where only max 10 of them have been shot into the core deposit asteroid... You're awesome! Please upload the video with how to setup cameras - i have an issue with this... Thanks again.
thank you for your video. It helped me out alot!!!
One additional indicator that I find very consistent. Lode rocks that increase in light intensity over time, are a good indicator. Normal rocks light to their brightest intensity on the initial pulse, then decrease to a lower light intensity. Lode rocks are the opposite however, and will light at low intensity on the initial pulse, then quickly increase to a second higher light intensity level. You can see a good example in the first lode rock that you find in this video.
This blew my mind. How have I not been doing this in all this time 😲🤦🏼♂️
Great video, very informative!
Thanks very much for actually spelling ' lode ' properly. 👍
I've heard the icy core roids described as a garlic bulb or pumpkin.
Lol nice edit @ 6:46, wouldn't want to be seen smashing into a rock at near full speed!
Hehe I did mange to avoid it, but it was a close call :p
The asteroid top looks like the top part of a mushroom cloud with little mesa plateaus. The little plateaus tend to have the fissures
great video! really simple really, for the motherload just hit the asteroid that looks like Garlic.
I just go by size, if it lights up like a lemon, and looks kinda like an everlasting gobstopper. Look for the farthest astroid that is the brightest/smallest. Fly to those. Do gobstopper check. Also, void opals can be depleted based on how much they are mined, so if someone is already mining them and you find a bunch of cores that aren't void opals then you might just want to find a new spot.
Just collected 19 Void Opals! Thx m8!
By the way: There is a good reason for choosing the ASP Explorer with 96t cargo and 5 (!) abrasion blasters + 1 seismic charge launcher. With 5 abrasion blasters fired at the same time you have actually the chance of getting 5 chunks per deposit instead of 1. Most of the time you only need like 3-4 coredroids to fill up the 96t of cargo.
Even better, with the ASP Explorer you have a very good jumping range (my mining asp has around 45ly's) to sell the stuff very quickly after obtaining it; as well as having a great maneuverability.
I use the Stewie method, it's very easy and you don't need a pulse wave analyzer. The method works like that, after dropping in to the ring start typing in chat "Mom, mom, mon, mon, mommy, mother, mom, mama, mommy, mom, mom, Mom, mom, mon, mon, mommy, mother, mom, mama, mommy, mom, mom, Mom, mom, mon, mon, mommy, mother, mom, mama, mommy, mom, mom, Mom, mom, mon, mon, mommy, mother, mom, mama, mommy, mom, mom. After a few minutes the Mother load will reveal itself asking you 'WHAT?'. See, simple.
I do it with turreted abrasion blasters on a 'conda. Works like a charm :)
Started on my second account few days ago... Did some 50k delivery missions until had 250k for discovery scanner, than got my AspX after few earth and water world mappings. Finally fitted all mining equipment and got 3 feasured roids in a row in void opals hotspot. Sold them for 1.6m/ton and now I have 100m after first run. Gold rush makes the blood boils!
AGREED!!! I sooooo miss the stacking surface scan and skimmer mission days, pre 2.4
If you hold the pulse wave scanner key down (no gaps between scans) the core asteroids have dark black lines all over them as you approach, and have green or red colour hot spots. It makes them extremely obvious.
Interesting, will make use of it, but i also hope they add several more models to make this a bit harder.
When i went mining for the first time a few days ago, i used the night vision to clearly see the features of the rocks and to see if i was too close to my limpets wouldn't get hit up by a rotating boulder.
You have exactly 10 minutes before free void opals expire. That's why they disappeared from your contacts. I believe some minerals expire faster than others, but I've mined enough void opals to know exactly how long they last. I've made 11 digits just off void opals. One other tip - 2 maximum strength seismic charges in 2 low strength fissures almost always gets optimum yield. You'll never exceed optimum but very rarely you'll be below it. If that happens just fire a minimum strength charge (tap the mouse button) into a high or average strength fissure.
Great vid, got to the tricks you told by myself after mining 10 asteroid with core. At first I barely found 1 per hour or two, but after practice I can see it from far an ignoring wrong asteroids.
For me it seems that ice one is best to mine, it contains void opals and low temp diamonds, that are really good, especially void opals, on right station it has selling price 1.6mil per piece.
Also I found out that these hotspots are not so useful, it's much better and easier to fly in random place, most likely you won't find any already blown up asteroid.
Also I would recommend to launch limpets after you get off all ore, this way you loose less limpets as they will suicide slot.
Best ship for mining as for me is krait mk II, it's pretty maneuverable and has pretty good amount of compartments.
Approx profit is 70-120mil/hours, mostly depends on how much void opals you find, because all other ores have roughly 3 times smaller price.
I recommend you just dont land near the centers its where people usually go. So instead drop at a random place in the inner circle so you can find place a that are unexplored. Also, little tip for the annoying pirates, you can just cycle your game in and out until the pirate either spawns at a level you can defend against, spawns in a ship you can outrun, or once in a blue moon spawns a cop instead. It makes no sense to why that happens and really pirates should not punish people who disconnected only to reconnect and get fucked by an NPC.
Thanks bud good video
I think the dim ones are not secondary radiation I think the brightness helps to show the amount of deposits in it. The three dim ones may only have 1 thing to mine maybe 1 surface deposit. The bright ones have usually at least 3
ive been doing mining in an adder for awhile and made enough to buy an asp explorer and now im raking in a minimum of 15M each time i go out. really excited to get a krait or python
Void Opal Core asteroids are outlined in a dark red and usually all the asteroids will glow a dark red around it. as you get closer and scan again, it will turn DARK RED as in 3/4 of the asteroid. and as you get even closer it will turn DEEP DARK GREEN. that is a void opal core asteroid. They are the only ones that glow dark gree/outline in dark red.
When getting the surface deposits it helps to NOT target them- it's easier to tell when they pop off (the icon disappears), and there is no advantage to targeting the surface deposits because there is no gimbal as far as i can tell, it's just parallax offset of your weapon vs the surface of the asteroid (or at the very least if you don't have a gimbaled surface mining thing, this works....).
If you fly over the ring when scanning it is much better to turn your ship upside down so the ring is above you. Then you can use your entire outside view to look at asteroids instead of half the screen being wasted to show the planet and stars. Either that or just fly through the ring. Also, when pinging, the deep black color you see for a moment when close by is a dead giveaway.
Learning this right now from this vid. Thanks for the detailed fire group layout. One thing you did not mention but is what I kinda get from it. So basically you look for the shape which kinda tells you if you will be able to blow it up?
never mind ...Got it ..What an awesome sight to blow up an steroid .. ;-)
You have the best tutorials for Elite Dangerous, actually very helpfull! I read tons of pages but you just said it clearly! Thanks
Very informative and useful. Now, how do we reliably extract core minerals in wings without running into yield display bugs? : )
For anybody struggling to recognize the shape: look for popcorn.
The ones that likely trip you up the most (as they're frequently also very "angry") are, as I've named them for personal use: brains (oval with a little cerebellum), or meteors (blunt on one end, ridges, so shape is easily mistaken as popcorn, with exception that it looks like it should be travelling in one direction).
Every time I go mining, there is at least one piece of ore that gets trapped inside a Asteroid and kills my limpets as they try to collect it
good video, i know that already, fun to mine void opals 😁😁😃😃😃👍👍👍👍
My tips for mining cores:
Look for the right shape and size.
Cores have orange-red color rather than yellow.
Cores have "cracks" decals on it (not canyons or other topography). These are the spots where you can plant you charges... even if you have disarmed overpowered charge, you still can retry on the same spot.
I do not even prospect asteroids if i did not see any cracks.
Mine at "night" (inside the planet shadow) and without Night vision using only ship head lights.
Do not stick to opals only, check at stations which minerals are at price, some times opals aren't the best option and would be better to mine alexandrite or low temp diamonds
Good luck!
Great video.
Any idea if Odessey has made it easier to locate these motherlode asteroids in 2022?
The ones with cores glow up bright, with a second pulse the glow up dark and then brighten up, also a good indicator.
This is because your ship is in movement, or you are using headlook. If you stay still and scan a core, it looks like exact same, all thru the scan. Holding the button to get a different feedback is a myth.
Great video buddy, very helpful, your channel is awesome, I just have a question, why don't you use the drill launcher? Thank you so much for making these amazing videos.
since i'm only interested in the material in the core deposited i don't need the drills
holy cow i had a COMPLETELY different understanding of how the seismic charges should be set. i assumed that, to get the highest yield, you had to set low charges in low strength fissures (otherwise you'd destroy the deposits inside) and high charges in high strength fissures (otherwise the rock wouldnt crack open). i also was thinking that putting charges in the high fissures raised the yield indicator MORE than putting charges in the low fissures. so i would start with the highs, then set the lows when i was close to the blue and only needed a little more.
You get about 50% more initial yield for matching charge strength. Don't set high charges in low spots like he does, and you'll get 14-16 chunks instead of only 10-11
@@veritascalivmeir3708 no its part chance
I put high in low and I get 14 to 15 chunks
@@afaxmachine5045 agreed .. ive gotten 15 from a two charge blast many many times.
I have read a post from FDev somewhere on their forums about the multiple abrasion blasters making more chunks. They had said something like it's not something they intend to change. That said, they can also change their minds whenever they want.
Do you by any chance have a link for that. I would very much like to read that thread.
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy Unfortunately, I can't find it. Which makes me think that either I misread a different post, or I'm losing my mind. Sorry about wasting your time. If I do eventually come across it, I'll reply here.
@@DowntoEarthAstronomy He's referring to the statement about the 'Price Of Void Opals' made before the break, I think.
I've found when looking for color yellow is good but the redder the better.