This is a game where I completely understand people who love it, and I completely understand people who don't like it so much. For the record, I love it. This video also showcases why this original group is so fun to watch. You guys are all great.
What I really like about this video is that as it’s a game everyone there has played many times before, you can see a real game night experience with friends and the banter involved. So good 😀
Y'all. This episode was such a surprise, and such a joy! I know it was just to show off the Gamegenics pieces, but it was handled well, and the lack of other commercials made up for it. And dang if those little hex trays for the bits don't look amazing. I might have to get them. So, success there! If you're going to go back and play more older games that gamegenics has supplies for, I'm in!
Sadly, Klaus Teuber, the designer of Catan passed away April 1st this year. But he leaves this great game which has brought a lot of people to the hobby.
At the ripe old age of 58, I am new to Catan! Having previously found you guys existed when looking online for info about Port Royal, it was good to find you covering this game - even though it’s ancient history for you it was useful for me.
The fact that everybody around the table know the rules really changes the dynamic of the show. It feels more relaxed. I love the show either way, but I wouldn’t mind more episodes like this one with classic games! :)
Dave is awesome. I'm like Dave when we have our game nights with my friends, always looking out for others to make sure people get the best turn possible. I generally lose in the end, but it's so fun to sit, and have an enjoyable night relaxing and having fun. I like all you guys though Dave is my favorite gamer.
So great to see you guys doing the ‘classics’! The focus on the hotness by many means new gamers hear about but never see these games and are missing out!
Best board gaming video I ever seen, my time was well-spent watching this, it helped me to understand how to play and it was very enjoyable 😁 you've got yourself a new and well earned subscriber ❤😊
Amazingly almoast 10 years in the hobby and this is my first time seeing this game - i heard of it of course, but none of my groups owned it at any point. :) thanks for doing this episode :)
I've been watching Game Night! since 2019 when I began my board gaming journey. I wasn't introduced to Catan until just 2 months ago and I love it. (i never thought I would) What a treat to see this classic getting some attention here on Game Night! Thanks.
Only got into this game over the past week. Been in the hobby for approx 3 years and not sure why I hadn't played it until now! Seems to be most people's into to the hobby. great video (as always) guys. Keep it up 👍
Our family has started with more modern games but wanted to buy, play, and show respect to early games. Thank you for this video. I remember it being called settlers of Catan, I didn't buy until now as "Catan". Today I don't think it will take over our table, but I do believe it'll bring a great addition to the rotation. Thanks again!
Since you asked during the intro: despite having heard of it thousands of times and knowing what it represents for the board game hobby, I have never played nor watched any gameplay of Catan
me too. although I own a small little collection of newer games. I always thought it might disappoint me since its also some years old and the art didn't pull me in.
This is the only other game I've played "competitively" (Magic being the other one).. and after an entire day of playing this game, I still could have kept going. Fun episode!
This is great....in the middle of a game of it on Board Game Arena right now...a great place for anyone who wants to try it out for the first time. This is a classic in every sense of the word and one I have owned and played for a long time.
This my first time experiencing Catan. I've always seen the game but have never played it watched it played. So I will enjoy learning from my favorite team.
Great episode and definitely one for all posterity! Like many here, Settlers (and Dominion) were the games that introduced me to modern gaming, so it’s good to see you dust it off and give it a proper overview and playthrough.
First timer. Going to a friend's house to learn to play tonight. My husband and I are new to board gaming. We are in our early fifties and started to play as a joint hobby since becoming empty nesters.
It's great that at your table players don't get upset about the choices of others. It was fun watching you interact! I sold my copy of Catan (+ Cities&Knights, both upgraded to 5-6 players) because our group got tired of it (and the constant bickering), plus we discovered better games for our tastes.
I know you all typically show newish games, and that the reason for this stream was to show off the fancy new sponsored pieces. But, regardless I think it's fun watching you all break out a classic every now and then!
Sarah, we've been wanting to do Catan (I miss The Settlers of) for a while. This gave us an excuse to make it happen. Me and Nikki especially would like to do classics more often but there are so many exciting new games that we don't seem to get the them. Thanks for the note and for watching-Lincoln
German here. So, I have of course played 'Catan'. Legend has it there is at least one copy in every German household! And it's still played sometimes. Especially with people who are usually not that much into boardgames. I still don't get the name change though. We only refer to it as 'Die Siedler' omitting the Catan altogether. Great that you played it ❤️
The crazy part, IIRC, was that Teuber's original design for Catan included both Boats and Cities & Knights... and it was Kosmos who suggested stripping those out to release just the "base" game.
I started playing games solo during the pandemic, and recently have been playing with other people. I've never seen the game played, so after hearing soooooo much about it, I thought I should probably take a look at.
I loved the end of episode reminiscence; I've been to a couple of LAN parties, and while fun it was a chore lugging the rig around to say nothing of the repeated breakdown and setup. Regarding "Catan", an experienced game group invited me to a game in the mid-2010s; It was interesting to me, but didn't grab my imagination. I'll keep an open mind should another play opportunity arise, but this is one classic title I may not need for my collection. Thanks for the episode!
The first time I played Settlers of Catan was in 1996, when a friend brought a copy back from her family’s trip to Germany. Played it a lot in college but for last 20 years, not much. Now that it’s on BGA, starting to play again.
I've never played Catan! I've recently got quite into board games and loving watching BGG GameNight! Episodes. Recently bought Wingspan, Azul, King of New York and Splendor all after watching their respective episodes. Cryptid and Cascadia are on my to buy list also. Great work people.
@@boardgamegeek Thanks Lincoln! The combination of you, Dave and Nikki is absolutely great on every video I've watched. So much humour from all three of you. I only wish I had more time with friends for gaming but I'm working on that :)
Along with many others this is my gateway game. We are still playing with our original Settlers of Catan and the cards are so worn down. I didn't know about card sleeves until much later. We, too, will never get rid of our copy not only because of sentimental value, but we still play the game. My favorite part of board gaminging is player interactivity and this game has a whole lot of that. Thanks for covering such an amazing classic. What is your gateway game?
Just finished watching Rodney Smith how to play video on this, now I'm coming here to see how it plays in a group, definitely excited and will consider buying soon
You guys crack me up with the puns and other jokes.... My kinda humor. "Stanley Twobricks..." Niiiice! 😂👍 Fun teach. I do not own and have never played this, but now, I'm thinking I should!
Old timer here and this still gets played at least once a year by my group. Always with the Seafarers and a lot of the time with 5+ players. Even though I never suggest we play Catan, I would like to play Settlers of the Stone Age and Nurnberg again.
My hands down my favorite game. I’ve played hundreds of games online, in person and in tournaments. It’s a shame they skipped the initial placement, which some people argue is the single biggest factor in how the game plays out. For very competitive players they could spend 5 to 10 minutes on deciding where to place their settlements. The scenario in the instructions they played is heavily in white’s favor, it’s not well balanced I’ve found. Still fun to watch them play though!
Interesting you say that, because I played this last night as white and never built a single settlement the entire game because of really bad dice rolls.
Roll > Trade > Build was in the 'Third Edition" that I learnt about 18 years ago. Fourth or Fifth edition got rid of the requirement to finish Trading before building. The copy of Cities & Knights I learnt with around the same time specifically mentioned changing the rule about needing to finish Trading before spending cards. Only 40 minutes in... But it was possible to play the Soldier card before rolling. And I didn't notice if Dave mentioned you weren't able to play a Development Card on the turn it was purchased unless it was a point card giving the win.
He did (and it is on all the player aid cards which are too small for you to read form this height!) - we also may have mentioned it in gameplay (or the chat could have been edited out) when Lincoln draws a card, but we make sure the card he plays is a previously-held Knight card right after.
I didn’t know they changed the name! I grew up play settler’s with my parents 😻. It’s a huge part of my childhood. Along with Roborally which I’ve never seen anyone play since 😭😭
Even if I never get to play it again, I'll never get rid of my copy, and I'm almost desperate trying to find players to go through the Seafarers campaign. Don't understand all the hate - to the calls of "There are better games." I say "Yeah? So what??" The longer I stay in this hobby, the more I prefer the older classics, and think I'm about to set up a new Meetup group called "Cult of the Not New" because the constant onslaught of new games is exhausting and leaves great older games behind.
I used to live in Switzerland and like other European countries they have Ludotheques (basically boardgame libraries) where they typically hold game nights. I was a little dismayed that they didnt have Backgammon. I wasnt expecting Monopoly or Scrabble though as I know they are almost taboo nowadays. Modern boardgamers seem to really dismiss classic public domain type games. I do agree that the cult of the new is a little disappointing. Sadly you either luck out and find/create a group or you end up playong online
I’ve been on a catan binge lately and I find it funny whenever I think about a game people start talking about it again. Maybe the algorithm is controlling our brains
That was a blast! I would love to see if you guys would re-do classic games for game night : king of Tokyo, ticket to ride, smallworld, splendor, and Carcassonne just to name a few!
I would love to get a chance to "Re-do" Splendor as well. 1 Point? 1 Point!?!?!? watch?v=dDHUNZSsq7g It was my first episode ever and I did have a massive migraine at the time.
I have two copies of older games (1996 and 1997) and it still, wood, brick, sheep, wheat, and ore. I also have older copies of Seafarers and Cites & Knights both of these also from the 90,s
I've only ever played the free app version, so this to me is close to being a new experience! Glad to see you revisiting older games. Might I pitch for you playing a session of the wonderful Mansions of Madness..? :-)
I’ve played hundreds of games and this is one that I have never tried nor know the rules to. Still looking forward to the day that someone will ask me to play it with them! Lol
Wow. But in a weird way, I understand. It's definitely one of those classic games where it's "classic"-ness kinda works against it once you've played it a bunch. It's full magic works best on new players.
i have of course heard of Catan, but i've never played it. None of the hobbyist gamers i started playing with brought it to the meetups. And for the other folks i play with (family and coworkers) i'm the one who brings the Euros, and of it can't be soloed, i don't have it to bring. 🤷🏻♂️
People think monopoly is the Machiavellian game that starts fights, but really it's Catan. I can't count how many times a game has ended with no one speaking to each other.
Ultimately Monopoly is usually played wrong which leads to it dragging out too long. I still think the "adult" version of Monopoly needs to adopt the Junior versions rule for game end where play finishes once a person goes out and money is counted. Weirdly people apply silly house rules to it rather than good ones
@@danteshydratshirt2360 Yeh, I used to play a fair bit of Monopoly by the rules, and there's so little friction with it when you do. You tend to accept your lumps rather than fenagle a way out of debt, or what have you. People see Monopoly about having money, when it's about having property, so all the house rules seem to be about keeping money, or getting more. Which is why the games drag out, and people crack it. It's essentially adding a gotcha mechanic, for everyone but the active player, to the game.
Well, it was way more entertaining watching you guys play than it ever was when I played. It really reminded me of all the things that I hate about Catan. According to my records, I last played in 2007 - I'm surprised it was that recently.
I think this is an aspect that modern gamers miss about older games, and I mean far older than Catan, is that people when they know the rules can interact more naturally and the game is almost a background to that. I used to play a LOT of whist type card games and thats definitely the case. I would argue that most modern games are too rules bloated to allow for decent real social interaction
@@danteshydratshirt2360 I suspect that what you describe is more likely a function of how few plays a game gets before being "shelved". Perhaps people don't get to internalise the rules quite so much in this more consumerist phase of the hobby. However, my group has played together for many years and there's definitely a level of "socialising" even with new games, so I'm not sure that your hypothesis holds at all. When it comes to a game like Arkham Horror (2e) the level of socialising in our group is off the scale - and AH is a very complex game. We've just played it a lot.
@@danteshydratshirt2360 I think another factor - and this is kind of surprising - is that most "modern" games have shifted from having one common board that everyone plays on to instead everyone having their own separate player board in front of them (often with some sort of central board that's mostly for bookkeeping and/or resource buying, etc). And because of this, a decent chunk of player interaction has been de facto designed out of the game. It's kind of a subtle thing, and, in fact, I didn't even notice this until Mark Johnson was talking to me about it a few months ago.
@@davidarnott4850 very interesting point...though in defence of more modern gaming for socialising there are far more co-operative games than in the past
Wow! My wife and I were just gifted Catan last month and here it is on the big stage! We've never played it, but I was aware of the game (oddly enough first heard about it from a TV show called Parks and Recreation). Looks a bit lucky and I was sad to hear all the 'take that' rules, but I liked the beginner setup and the table interaction. Looking forward to trying it out soon. Quick question, if you actually choose your settlements at the beginning (in the snake draft fashion Dave described), how much of the game is won or lost just in that setup? It seems really important to get the placements right. Anyway, thanks for playing!
The game can definitely be won/lost (or close to it, anyway) in the set-up phase. One way to mitigate that is to play it 3-player. You'll still want to choose wisely, but the board is less congested and allows for better zigging/zagging if/when someone else builds in such a way as to thwart your current plan. One of the most amazing things about this game is that despite this starting "bug," and potential bad dice rolls, and the "take that" aspects, it still manages to be the modern classic it deserves to be.
I say "Ca-tahn". :) I have the Star Trek version and my group will play that in our regular rotation. It adds some nice mechanics with Starfleet Personnel and some pre made maps.
That is my favorite version. Even aside from the theme, I think the personnel powers speed the game opening along, cushion weaker turns, and make it a lot more new player friendly.
We used the rules-recommended "even" setup which takes exactly that into account - partly to save camera time choosing. And of course I'd recommend using something like that with new players before they know the strategic implications of initial placements.
The Settlers of Zarahemla has the extra 2 victory point achievement for greatest temple contributor. Other than that and the more limited tile placement, it's basically the same. The names were changed to appeal to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Another one off Cataan I have played is Settlers of America: Trails and Rails. That one was different in more than a few aspects, although the roll, collect and build is still there.
Well... I never thought there would come a day when I am willing watching 2 hours of Catan being played, and enjoy every second of it...
Heheheee
Technically it was just over an hour not 2 hours.
@@ShuffleUpandDeal32it’s 2hrs, look at the duration
@@notfritianofficial4494 The video yes, the actual gameplay was less.
The perfectly in sync "no this is catan" after Dave says Monopoly is hilarious
Dave is the best! GREAT teacher and excellent player because he cares about everyone else at the table. You deserve a hug bro.
This is a game where I completely understand people who love it, and I completely understand people who don't like it so much. For the record, I love it.
This video also showcases why this original group is so fun to watch. You guys are all great.
What I really like about this video is that as it’s a game everyone there has played many times before, you can see a real game night experience with friends and the banter involved. So good 😀
Even though I know exactly how to play Catan I still find myself watching the explanation, you guys always make them so interesting.
Y'all. This episode was such a surprise, and such a joy! I know it was just to show off the Gamegenics pieces, but it was handled well, and the lack of other commercials made up for it. And dang if those little hex trays for the bits don't look amazing. I might have to get them. So, success there!
If you're going to go back and play more older games that gamegenics has supplies for, I'm in!
Sadly, Klaus Teuber, the designer of Catan passed away April 1st this year. But he leaves this great game which has brought a lot of people to the hobby.
idk if ur lying coz the date ur saying is april 1st
At the ripe old age of 58, I am new to Catan! Having previously found you guys existed when looking online for info about Port Royal, it was good to find you covering this game - even though it’s ancient history for you it was useful for me.
The fact that everybody around the table know the rules really changes the dynamic of the show. It feels more relaxed. I love the show either way, but I wouldn’t mind more episodes like this one with classic games! :)
Agreed. Its the most Ive seen them have fun tbh
@@danteshydratshirt2360 go back and watch Season 3 Ep 1, where they play Hedbanz using hand puppets. It is wonderful.
@@RichieRich20000 oh yes that one was very good
Dave is awesome. I'm like Dave when we have our game nights with my friends, always looking out for others to make sure people get the best turn possible. I generally lose in the end, but it's so fun to sit, and have an enjoyable night relaxing and having fun. I like all you guys though Dave is my favorite gamer.
👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼This
I like how Dave tries different strategies just for the sake of it
So great to see you guys doing the ‘classics’! The focus on the hotness by many means new gamers hear about but never see these games and are missing out!
Let's hekkin GO! Catan is my favorite board game of all time; a group of friends all get together and play every Friday night :)
Best board gaming video I ever seen, my time was well-spent watching this, it helped me to understand how to play and it was very enjoyable 😁 you've got yourself a new and well earned subscriber ❤😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thank you for running a classic! This is the game that brought me back to board gaming.
Just played this last night with my little family/friend group. We played Century Spice Road for the first time too. Love watching you guys play, BTW.
I don’t know why seeing this on my feed excited me this much, but I ain’t complaining!
Amazingly almoast 10 years in the hobby and this is my first time seeing this game - i heard of it of course, but none of my groups owned it at any point. :) thanks for doing this episode :)
WOW! Thanks, Martin.
I've been watching Game Night! since 2019 when I began my board gaming journey. I wasn't introduced to Catan until just 2 months ago and I love it. (i never thought I would) What a treat to see this classic getting some attention here on Game Night! Thanks.
Only got into this game over the past week. Been in the hobby for approx 3 years and not sure why I hadn't played it until now! Seems to be most people's into to the hobby. great video (as always) guys. Keep it up 👍
Thank you for refreshing the rules of this great old classic with this very enjoyable playthrough session. I feel like I'm back on track.
Our family has started with more modern games but wanted to buy, play, and show respect to early games. Thank you for this video. I remember it being called settlers of Catan, I didn't buy until now as "Catan". Today I don't think it will take over our table, but I do believe it'll bring a great addition to the rotation. Thanks again!
For the past two months, I have played this game every Wednesday with my neighbors. This video shows me that they are playing the game wrong.
Since you asked during the intro: despite having heard of it thousands of times and knowing what it represents for the board game hobby, I have never played nor watched any gameplay of Catan
WOW! Cool.
me too. although I own a small little collection of newer games. I always thought it might disappoint me since its also some years old and the art didn't pull me in.
Yep same here, I’d heard of it but never played it or seen it be played. Thanks for the play through!
Cool, thanks, Marteen and Cian.
Love to see the playthrough of an older game! Love your channel!
Nice! Older games! Can we get a Power Grid playthrough?
I really want them to do a Power Grid session!
The banter in this game is so good. Always love the original cast :D
This is the only other game I've played "competitively" (Magic being the other one).. and after an entire day of playing this game, I still could have kept going. Fun episode!
Could you play with the expansions? They are so much fun
I have known about this game for some time, but have never played. Nor, have I seen it played. Thank you!
Wow, thanks, D.
Expanding my board game horizons and Catan seems like the first step!! Thank you Dave for the great clear explanation!!!
This is great....in the middle of a game of it on Board Game Arena right now...a great place for anyone who wants to try it out for the first time. This is a classic in every sense of the word and one I have owned and played for a long time.
This my first time experiencing Catan. I've always seen the game but have never played it watched it played. So I will enjoy learning from my favorite team.
Always nice when you highlight a hidden gem. /s
LOL, not sure you could *ever* refer to (Settlers of) Catan as "hidden." :)
@@davidarnott4850 I think you need to look up what '/s' means.
@@JorWat25 Ahhhh, nice. As someone who's neither on Twitter nor reddit, I just saw that as a sig.
Here in Brazil, everyone loves Catan. Excellent gateway game.
Great episode and definitely one for all posterity! Like many here, Settlers (and Dominion) were the games that introduced me to modern gaming, so it’s good to see you dust it off and give it a proper overview and playthrough.
First timer. Going to a friend's house to learn to play tonight. My husband and I are new to board gaming. We are in our early fifties and started to play as a joint hobby since becoming empty nesters.
Ah the gateway to modern what my family call "real" board games. Only just discovered this channel but like watching you play games I know.
It's great that at your table players don't get upset about the choices of others. It was fun watching you interact!
I sold my copy of Catan (+ Cities&Knights, both upgraded to 5-6 players) because our group got tired of it (and the constant bickering), plus we discovered better games for our tastes.
I know you all typically show newish games, and that the reason for this stream was to show off the fancy new sponsored pieces. But, regardless I think it's fun watching you all break out a classic every now and then!
Sarah, we've been wanting to do Catan (I miss The Settlers of) for a while. This gave us an excuse to make it happen. Me and Nikki especially would like to do classics more often but there are so many exciting new games that we don't seem to get the them. Thanks for the note and for watching-Lincoln
German here. So, I have of course played 'Catan'. Legend has it there is at least one copy in every German household! And it's still played sometimes. Especially with people who are usually not that much into boardgames.
I still don't get the name change though. We only refer to it as 'Die Siedler' omitting the Catan altogether.
Great that you played it ❤️
It was always referred to as "Settlers" in the groups I played with here in Aotearoa. Catan was almost never mentioned.
My first time seeing this played!
Awesome GameNight! I got into gaming to late for anyone to want to play Catan. Would love to see more GameNoght! Oldies.
I love your shows!!!!!! I love this game!!!
At the very least, you four were highly entertaining in this game...you shine even when the game does nothing for me. Great episode.
When we play Catan we play with the Cities and Knights expansion, we always name the sheep/wool. We have names like Bessie, Jessie, James lolz!!!
The crazy part, IIRC, was that Teuber's original design for Catan included both Boats and Cities & Knights... and it was Kosmos who suggested stripping those out to release just the "base" game.
Ah, a classic!
I love that you're playing with sleeved cards.
I started playing games solo during the pandemic, and recently have been playing with other people. I've never seen the game played, so after hearing soooooo much about it, I thought I should probably take a look at.
I loved the end of episode reminiscence; I've been to a couple of LAN parties, and while fun it was a chore lugging the rig around to say nothing of the repeated breakdown and setup. Regarding "Catan", an experienced game group invited me to a game in the mid-2010s; It was interesting to me, but didn't grab my imagination. I'll keep an open mind should another play opportunity arise, but this is one classic title I may not need for my collection. Thanks for the episode!
I hope you guys play some more old (familliar) games. I felt like the atmosphere is more bouncy when everyone is super comfortable with the game.
The first time I played Settlers of Catan was in 1996, when a friend brought a copy back from her family’s trip to Germany. Played it a lot in college but for last 20 years, not much. Now that it’s on BGA, starting to play again.
There are other places online to play catan with a (much) better implementation than BGA has on this.
I've never played Catan!
I've recently got quite into board games and loving watching BGG GameNight! Episodes.
Recently bought Wingspan, Azul, King of New York and Splendor all after watching their respective episodes.
Cryptid and Cascadia are on my to buy list also.
Great work people.
Awesome! Thanks so much for the kind words. I hope you continue to have great fun. Thanks again for the note and for watching-Lincoln
@@boardgamegeek Thanks Lincoln! The combination of you, Dave and Nikki is absolutely great on every video I've watched. So much humour from all three of you. I only wish I had more time with friends for gaming but I'm working on that :)
Haha literally picked up this game from goodwill yesterday. 3.99 couldn't pass it up.
Good deal!
Woah! I've found spare parts at Goodwill but never a whole game!
@@adventure_hannah3841 I've gotten lucky lately, found a villainous expansion for 2.99 also
I know of Catan and know that many games are somewhat inspired by it, but i don't know the rules and have never played it. So thanks a lot for this 🙏😊
Cool, thanks, Casper.
Along with many others this is my gateway game. We are still playing with our original Settlers of Catan and the cards are so worn down. I didn't know about card sleeves until much later. We, too, will never get rid of our copy not only because of sentimental value, but we still play the game. My favorite part of board gaminging is player interactivity and this game has a whole lot of that. Thanks for covering such an amazing classic. What is your gateway game?
Would be nice if there would be a playthrough with all expansions ...
LOL - 1 in 7 chance and bam 'Brick' 🤣 Lol - 'Give em 2 grain' 😂 Super fun and hilarious episode-ty ty 🤣
Just finished watching Rodney Smith how to play video on this, now I'm coming here to see how it plays in a group, definitely excited and will consider buying soon
NO WAY, NEVER DID I THOUGH YOU GUYS WOULD EVER PLAY CATAN SINCE IT WAS NEVER DONE HERE BEFORE.
You guys crack me up with the puns and other jokes.... My kinda humor. "Stanley Twobricks..." Niiiice! 😂👍 Fun teach. I do not own and have never played this, but now, I'm thinking I should!
Old timer here and this still gets played at least once a year by my group. Always with the Seafarers and a lot of the time with 5+ players. Even though I never suggest we play Catan, I would like to play Settlers of the Stone Age and Nurnberg again.
STONE AGE! (Settlers, that is... though Stone Age is also a fun game).
Can we vote for Dave to bring the mustache back! I see no negative to this
Hehehehhee..... uh, no.
I've heard about this game a bunch of times, but haven't played it. This is actually the first play through I've watched of it as well.
Cool, thanks, Pips.
This is my first time see catan, Dave
Never played Catan but this is up there as one of the funnest, entertaining playthroughs 😄
Best thumbnail yet! 🔥🙏
My hands down my favorite game. I’ve played hundreds of games online, in person and in tournaments. It’s a shame they skipped the initial placement, which some people argue is the single biggest factor in how the game plays out. For very competitive players they could spend 5 to 10 minutes on deciding where to place their settlements. The scenario in the instructions they played is heavily in white’s favor, it’s not well balanced I’ve found. Still fun to watch them play though!
Interesting you say that, because I played this last night as white and never built a single settlement the entire game because of really bad dice rolls.
Roll > Trade > Build was in the 'Third Edition" that I learnt about 18 years ago. Fourth or Fifth edition got rid of the requirement to finish Trading before building. The copy of Cities & Knights I learnt with around the same time specifically mentioned changing the rule about needing to finish Trading before spending cards.
Only 40 minutes in... But it was possible to play the Soldier card before rolling. And I didn't notice if Dave mentioned you weren't able to play a Development Card on the turn it was purchased unless it was a point card giving the win.
He did (and it is on all the player aid cards which are too small for you to read form this height!) - we also may have mentioned it in gameplay (or the chat could have been edited out) when Lincoln draws a card, but we make sure the card he plays is a previously-held Knight card right after.
It is the first time I'm experience Catan. Looks like a cool game. I think I will put it in my "games to purchase" list
Cool, thanks, deadderkati.
I didn’t know they changed the name! I grew up play settler’s with my parents 😻. It’s a huge part of my childhood. Along with Roborally which I’ve never seen anyone play since 😭😭
Yes it is my first time learning this game and up to this moment i ve never played it :(
This is my first time seeing this game played; I've got the game, but haven't played it yet.
Wow, thanks John.
Even if I never get to play it again, I'll never get rid of my copy, and I'm almost desperate trying to find players to go through the Seafarers campaign. Don't understand all the hate - to the calls of "There are better games." I say "Yeah? So what??" The longer I stay in this hobby, the more I prefer the older classics, and think I'm about to set up a new Meetup group called "Cult of the Not New" because the constant onslaught of new games is exhausting and leaves great older games behind.
JK, I would really enjoy that Meetup group. Medici? Bohnanza?
I used to live in Switzerland and like other European countries they have Ludotheques (basically boardgame libraries) where they typically hold game nights. I was a little dismayed that they didnt have Backgammon. I wasnt expecting Monopoly or Scrabble though as I know they are almost taboo nowadays. Modern boardgamers seem to really dismiss classic public domain type games. I do agree that the cult of the new is a little disappointing. Sadly you either luck out and find/create a group or you end up playong online
I’ve been on a catan binge lately and I find it funny whenever I think about a game people start talking about it again. Maybe the algorithm is controlling our brains
I have recently got back to Catan. We need more Euros that have similar trading mechanisms.
Like a few others here, never played it, never seen it played, my only experience’ with it is the 30 Rock spoof of it. So this is exciting!
Wow, thanks, mcmahamg.
That was a blast! I would love to see if you guys would re-do classic games for game night : king of Tokyo, ticket to ride, smallworld, splendor, and Carcassonne just to name a few!
I would love to get a chance to "Re-do" Splendor as well. 1 Point? 1 Point!?!?!? watch?v=dDHUNZSsq7g It was my first episode ever and I did have a massive migraine at the time.
Their very first episode of Game Night is King of Tokyo. You can go watch Dave and Aaron still with hair :)
@@joaorobalo7594 How dare you, sir! :)
@@joaorobalo7594 :(
I have so many other games but not played this game, Just know about it and watching a first good run-through
I've never played Catan. its an excellent idea to play those classics
Cool, thanks, Marcos.
I have two copies of older games (1996 and 1997) and it still, wood, brick, sheep, wheat, and ore. I also have older copies of Seafarers and Cites & Knights both of these also from the 90,s
I've heard of it a lot. But never played before
I've only ever played the free app version, so this to me is close to being a new experience! Glad to see you revisiting older games. Might I pitch for you playing a session of the wonderful Mansions of Madness..? :-)
The "dice deck" is official - it's in the Traders & Barbarians expansion ;).
Like this episode. Seems evolutionary.
I am familiar with Catan but never played. My gateway game into the hobby was 7 Wonders.
It’s my first time! Thought many times on buying it since it seems pretty cheap, especially a used copy.
Cool, thanks, Jokeman.
I’ve played hundreds of games and this is one that I have never tried nor know the rules to. Still looking forward to the day that someone will ask me to play it with them! Lol
Wow. But in a weird way, I understand. It's definitely one of those classic games where it's "classic"-ness kinda works against it once you've played it a bunch. It's full magic works best on new players.
i have of course heard of Catan, but i've never played it. None of the hobbyist gamers i started playing with brought it to the meetups. And for the other folks i play with (family and coworkers) i'm the one who brings the Euros, and of it can't be soloed, i don't have it to bring. 🤷🏻♂️
Cool, thanks, Bill.
27:28 "Lumber?? I hardly know her!" 😂
People think monopoly is the Machiavellian game that starts fights, but really it's Catan. I can't count how many times a game has ended with no one speaking to each other.
Ultimately Monopoly is usually played wrong which leads to it dragging out too long. I still think the "adult" version of Monopoly needs to adopt the Junior versions rule for game end where play finishes once a person goes out and money is counted. Weirdly people apply silly house rules to it rather than good ones
@@danteshydratshirt2360 Yeh, I used to play a fair bit of Monopoly by the rules, and there's so little friction with it when you do. You tend to accept your lumps rather than fenagle a way out of debt, or what have you.
People see Monopoly about having money, when it's about having property, so all the house rules seem to be about keeping money, or getting more. Which is why the games drag out, and people crack it. It's essentially adding a gotcha mechanic, for everyone but the active player, to the game.
Old school board gaming. Love Settlers of Catan
Well, it was way more entertaining watching you guys play than it ever was when I played. It really reminded me of all the things that I hate about Catan. According to my records, I last played in 2007 - I'm surprised it was that recently.
I think this is an aspect that modern gamers miss about older games, and I mean far older than Catan, is that people when they know the rules can interact more naturally and the game is almost a background to that. I used to play a LOT of whist type card games and thats definitely the case. I would argue that most modern games are too rules bloated to allow for decent real social interaction
@@danteshydratshirt2360 I suspect that what you describe is more likely a function of how few plays a game gets before being "shelved". Perhaps people don't get to internalise the rules quite so much in this more consumerist phase of the hobby. However, my group has played together for many years and there's definitely a level of "socialising" even with new games, so I'm not sure that your hypothesis holds at all. When it comes to a game like Arkham Horror (2e) the level of socialising in our group is off the scale - and AH is a very complex game. We've just played it a lot.
@@danteshydratshirt2360 I think another factor - and this is kind of surprising - is that most "modern" games have shifted from having one common board that everyone plays on to instead everyone having their own separate player board in front of them (often with some sort of central board that's mostly for bookkeeping and/or resource buying, etc). And because of this, a decent chunk of player interaction has been de facto designed out of the game. It's kind of a subtle thing, and, in fact, I didn't even notice this until Mark Johnson was talking to me about it a few months ago.
@@davidarnott4850 very interesting point...though in defence of more modern gaming for socialising there are far more co-operative games than in the past
Now the can hope for a game night featuring carcassonne big box or other classic games!
Wow! My wife and I were just gifted Catan last month and here it is on the big stage!
We've never played it, but I was aware of the game (oddly enough first heard about it from a TV show called Parks and Recreation).
Looks a bit lucky and I was sad to hear all the 'take that' rules, but I liked the beginner setup and the table interaction. Looking forward to trying it out soon.
Quick question, if you actually choose your settlements at the beginning (in the snake draft fashion Dave described), how much of the game is won or lost just in that setup? It seems really important to get the placements right.
Anyway, thanks for playing!
The game can definitely be won/lost (or close to it, anyway) in the set-up phase. One way to mitigate that is to play it 3-player. You'll still want to choose wisely, but the board is less congested and allows for better zigging/zagging if/when someone else builds in such a way as to thwart your current plan.
One of the most amazing things about this game is that despite this starting "bug," and potential bad dice rolls, and the "take that" aspects, it still manages to be the modern classic it deserves to be.
I say "Ca-tahn". :) I have the Star Trek version and my group will play that in our regular rotation. It adds some nice mechanics with Starfleet Personnel and some pre made maps.
That is my favorite version. Even aside from the theme, I think the personnel powers speed the game opening along, cushion weaker turns, and make it a lot more new player friendly.
I don't play Catan without Cities and Knights, and I only use the trading system from Catan for kids.
I say "catah-n". Also, I see you all play nice, no one was blocked from the sea during initial placement.
We used the rules-recommended "even" setup which takes exactly that into account - partly to save camera time choosing. And of course I'd recommend using something like that with new players before they know the strategic implications of initial placements.
I love Catan!
First time seeing it, always hearing about it
Wow, thanks, Gale.
The Settlers of Zarahemla has the extra 2 victory point achievement for greatest temple contributor. Other than that and the more limited tile placement, it's basically the same. The names were changed to appeal to members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
Another one off Cataan I have played is Settlers of America: Trails and Rails. That one was different in more than a few aspects, although the roll, collect and build is still there.