@@A_Final_Hit Page and Clapton got clean way before that, in fact Clapton got Page into rehab, Clapton, Page, Jeff Beck, and Stevie Winwood were doing a tour in the early 80s called the Britain invasion tour and Page was so high he couldnt play and he was really skinny so Eric got him help.
@@ed52369 yes you are right apparently it was cocaine that Keith continued to use until 2006, and he quit cigarettes in 2019, he still has an occasional drink usually vodka and orange soda 🤢 🤮
Personal taste. Frank Zappa was amazing but I can't stand most of his music. Prince was perhaps the most talented musician in the last 100 years and while I like some of his songs, a lot of his stuff I don't like.
Keith had made the comment when hearing Jimmy had a new band and heard a couple of the tracks that were recorded (before the album came out). Richards had stated many times he liked the guys alright in Zep but not the music. Same goes for Pete Townsend, who always ripped on Zep music. Interesting thing is, Page had played on early Who and Stones albums as the producers didn't like the respective bands guitar playing. Add to that, the Who almost lost Entwhistle and Moon who were fed up with the WHo's infighting and almost joined what would become Zeppelin. In each case The Stones and The Who, were two of the biggest bands at the time, both getting knocked off the top of the mountain once Zep hit the scene. More than a few in the business have said the negative comments towards Zep's music was sour grapes and being a bie jelly.
@@dlewtweentorla1210 Tell us about something Townsend doesn’t rip on.. here’s the thing.. if it weren’t for the low ceiling on that tiny stage the who might never of been so blessed.. Keith could play drums with anyone and it would be a blast.. The destruction of equipment that fed the flames of rock and roll happened quite by accident. On the far other hand Jimmy Page quite strategically evolved rock music and was extremely powerful in the direction of rock shows.. you may be too young to remember when small venues turned into stadium festival seating.. it wasn’t a Neil Pert acoustically perfect setting in the beginning of rock shows.. I saw Bowie on a 12” wooden stage in a new concrete convention center for Diamond Dogs and he hated the sound.. he told us so.. the phenomenon of Loud to reach the nose bleed crowd (multi functional goal) was perfected by 4 sticks.. everyone else listened and followed along..
@@debmccorkle4845 I remember, your knowledge which I agree with completely, is such a breath of fresh air. Very few realize Jimmy's motivation beyond playing , from recording with so many different artists and styles, learning all he could about production and recording, and all at such a young age. Acquiring the knowledge, deciding to put a band together of like minded musicians that's loved music. Cheers !
@@andrebessacostaLike the _Beatles._ _The Beatles_ had four amazing musicians, that could all write incredible songs and could all take the vocal lead and lose almost nothing when they did. Or _Queen_ with their musical virtuosity and song writing, and literal *genius level IQs*
He did. He always had at least one other player who could actually hang. While Keith futzed around with his open tuning riffs the other guy (mick Taylor, Ronnie wood, etc.) would actually handle the “complicated” parts lol
Good point that. Zep had a certain pride that they could "handle anything between the 4 of us" - but it would have helped if Plant could have played guitar (or keyboard) as well, to ease the load on the other 3. I wouldn't want anyone taking the bass over from JPJ, he was essential working with John Bonham as he did
Yes, I've said the same about The Beatles until I realized people all don't have the same likes and dislikes as me. Zeppelin stole a lot of their music and I don't find myself fascinated by them like my teen years.
@@timfool Approximately 10 songs are in contention: Stairway to Heaven (court case won by Zep), Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Dazed and Confused, The Lemon Song, Bring it on Home, Since I've Been Loving You, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Hats of to Roy Harper, In My Time of Dying and Boogie with Stu. "i don't think anybody steals anything; all of us borrow" --B.B. King
Richard’s can play Robert Johnson songs on an acoustic guitar and they sound great. Keith is and always was a great guitarist, he chooses to play simple riffs because they fit the groove of the song better. Keith is the driving force behind the sound of The Rolling Stones. No working guitarist in competing bands of the time thought he was anything but the sound of the Stones. Great rhythm guitarists that seldom play leads are crucial to keeping a solid groove.
Led Zeppelin fans think because a guitar riff is more complicated it makes it better, yet the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history are the most simple ones. Focusing on if the music actually sounds good is the actual purpose.
Richard's can do it too. It's a choice you make in the studio. It's not hard to play over your own track. You have to decide. Can I Replicant this live?. If you don't mind if the record and live are different, then go ahead. This isn't about skill.
Presence is filled with layers of masterful guitar passages, building and building to orgasmic solos! Almost impossible to play live, but if anyone can do it, Jimmy Page can!
@@user-zf8ge7qj6m No, I'm not, but thanks for the compliment! I have, however, written a very lengthy paper on the meaning of the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven.
@vicvega3614 theybstill ripped off more bands than anyone else ever. I'm jot saying they werent players. All 4 were top tier but I lose all the respect when I find out. How they they just robbed other artists blind. For multiple hits.
I'm a pretty good one myself and that album did something for me bro, sorry you didn't have the same experience and I don't mean covers. I've never played one song off that album and never would.
@@JiMMY-my1ds Point taken. Nothing really to be gained from the comment. But there's a lesson that there's an element of politics in the music industry that not all are aware of. I respect your question brother btw
Except the fact he has came up with a handful of some of the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history and is one of the most succeful songwriters with his partnership with Mick. But yeah other than that not much 🙄
@@sambakery2006 oh no now don't take anything away from him he was one of the biggest pop stars of the day hahaha. Just because he couldn't do progressive rock are Jazz Rock Fusion like Jeff Beck Jan akkerman Steve h o w e Allan Holdsworth Al Di Meola Joe Satriani. But you and I know that's just simplistic stuff anyone could do that but that pop stuff is really difficult hahaha I mean you can ask anyone about that It's Complicated music. I mean just ask Madonna Michael Jackson George Michael the Herman's Hermits Donny Osmond Karen Carpenter hahaha hahaha hahaha.. when it comes to Pure musicianship Emerson Lake and Palmer focus and yes why they just don't have anything on those pop rock Heroes of yours. LOL
@@sambakery2006 The Monkees hahaha. I didn't even know at the time I was making my comment hahaha boy did I ever hit the nail on the head. Freaking Mickey dolenz LOL you have got to be kidding me ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@edljnehan2811 Did I ever mention anything about The Monkees being top musicians. No I didn't lol. That's my profile picture because It's from a music video I find funny, that's it lol. Anyways it's just completely relevant to the conversation so don't get why you brought it up lol
Regardless of his addiction........(and I'm not condoning) it gave Led Zepplin........Jimmy Page, ......he is brilliant......no other could pull this off.....he's the best...... it gave Led Zepplin an edge.........Jimmy Page is the best in my book.......and he will remain the best.......I am happy that he kicked the habbit.....not becoming a statistic.....the world of music would not be the same without this beautiful man.......most renowned......I love you Jimmy Page........❤
Everyone I've known who doesn't like LZ has poor taste in music or is tone deaf. Especially the "they stole all their songs" crowd. All of ya, get bent.
Yeah that's so overstated. Have the people who trot that line out actually listened to the original songs that Zeppelin 'stole'? They are basically entire new songs. 'Inspired by', at most.
Keith Richards couldn't tie Jimmy's shoe laces. People don't realize the amount of work and time Jimmy put into Led Zeppelin!! Keith just showed up high and played, Jimmy was the engineer and showed up high and played!
This is a horrible taint on the thoughts of a bohemian.. someone so free as Keith.. who shines so much love into music.. who has embraced everything from the basement floor up.. someone who has the creds to pluperfect any music he enjoys.. to say this publicly.. well, it hurts me heart.. not because the mighty zep can’t withstand critics.. God knows that’s been done magnificently.. it’s just that my main man Keef here.. he’s showing his well deserved place in history and it smacks lilts of ethnocentric.. he is not too old because he has become a spirit in rock.. really his work will haunt the world as long as there are material bits to it.. it just makes the God Father of Rock look less invincible.. not to appreciate the iconic place in history Led Zeppelin holds.. Loud evolved well thanks to Jimmy & John.. thunderous rock took shape from the tiny mono footprint.. and this is what he has to say about it?
Led Zeppelin is the best rock band there has ever been! They opened the curtain and let the blind see the sun. They invited the wheel. There manager is also a mountain mover!!
Greta Van Fleet did a great job with LZ Highway Tune. Robert Plant said in an interview he thought they did a great job. Also that he "hated them " 🤣 because they were still so young. He wanted to go back to his youth too. He was pretty cool.
Yeah sure... And then get the bootlegs from the Knebworth gigs and hear what they REALLY played on those nights, not the studio-doctored stuff from "LZ - DVD". That stuff is about as "live" as "KISS Alive". Also, LZ never did anything "perfectly" live on stage. They were notoriously hit-and-miss, especially Bonham and Page. Plant had awful nights, too. His voice was never the same after he damaged it severely in 1973 or so. They were great when everything came together - but half of the time it didn't.
Even Brown or White dope couldn't help richards being a more creative guitar player. Guy opens his mouth when he's not able to do half of Page's work on stage.
Keith.....you should have a lot of respect for Jimmy Page!!! GOAT You could learn everything from him when it comes to playing the guitar...and not just playing three cords on one 🎸
Terry Reid was asked to be lead singer of Led Zeppelin so that would’ve been a phenomenal version of Led Zeppelin even if quite different with 2 guitarists and the Super-lung singer himself! Terry Reid actually told Page to see Rainbow which was Plant and Bonham’s band.
All this hate towards Keith. He actually said that Jimmy is Led Zeppelin. He didn't care for Bonham's drumming and Plant's singing... Plant doesn't care for his singing style during this period, either. Keith and Jimmy are absolutely the same in one important and brilliant way. It's their genius ability to hear and layer guitar parts - melding the parts into one. By the way, they both have huge respect for one another as musicians.
Presense is one of my favorite LZ albums. Though both play guitar they couldn't be more different musicians. While Keith's rudimentary writing and playing style make the Stones what they are. Jimmy is the polar opposite with complex compositions and live performances.
I saw The Rolling Stones live during their Steel Wheels tour. Behind the backdrop I could see two guitarist playing the whole time Keith and Ronnie were swinging their arms around and prancing around on stage. Many other people who have seen them before and after I saw them said the same thing. And when Keith does play guitar live he has his guitars tuned to an open tuning, just like you would do if you are using a bottleneck slide. Keith has no right to judge any other guitarist Especially Jimmy Page.
Many bands with only one guitar but you'll hear 2 guitars in the recorded album. Like a stairway to heaven, also in a song Black dog you can hear the 2nd lead in the music.
It would have been hard to bring a new member in: I wonder if Page would have wanted to have too much control over what the other guitarist was doing: he wanted the guitar to be just so. Another personality & style in the guitar department and it's a whole new band. But perhaps they were ready for that after Presence - Page didn't do quite so much in the last album, for well-known reasons..
The Song Remains The Same, Kashmir and Achilles Last Stand all had alot of guitar layering in them in the studio. Live was another matter and Jimmy did the best he could. In 1977 at MSQ, Page performed all 3 songs with no layers at all and it was admirable. Yet, when I saw Page & Plant with full orchestra, the sounds you heard in The Song Remains The Same were staggering!
When I was a kid, I had a dream that Bill Wyman quit Rolling Stones. Band hadn't found a new bass guitarist yet. They had to go on stage. Keef strapped on both a guitar and a bass guitar. It wasn't even a double necked instrument. It was 2 single necked instruments strapped to the one musician. Keef worked so hard. He kept moving his hands back & forth between the 2 instruments. He didn't miss a note, but he was exhausted afterwards. He said it was too hard to do that night after night, and that they needed to find a bass guitarist ASAP. 😌💭 🎸🎸
Мой любимый гитарист Jimmy Page , ты настоящий шедевр, а группа которую ты создал, оказалась лучшей из лучших. ❤❤Led Zeppelin это легендарная группа!✨БРАВО JIMMY PAGE 🎸 ✨🎹🎸🥁🎤🎸👏👏👏
I agree with Keith Richards at least as far as live performances go. Zepplin was one of those bands that definitely needed a second or third guitarist on stage when they performed live, and the lack of that extra guitar or two is noticeable on so many of the recordings of Live Zeppelin songs
Presence is still my favorite LZ album - I don't care what anyone has to say about it. When you begin with Achilles Last Stand, then end with Tea For One, how can any album of work be any more blissfull? It's the Dark Horse of LZ album's.
When I was 15, I bought LZ 1 right after its release. I bought every album after that as soon as they were available. I could feel the end coming. The clues were in the music. The band had changed and the audience had changed. The rock music scene had changed. Some of you will know what I mean.
All the people arguing about which is a better guitar player are missing the more important point: These are two of the most successful guitar-riff-writers of all time. Nowadays, intermediate guitar players can learn to play most JP’s solos, but nobody is coming up with catchy guitar riffs like JP or Keith did consistently, album after album. That is the genius part IMO.
NOBODY is arguing over who the better guitar player is. nobody in their right mind would say richards is even close to the greatest guitarist of all time - JIMMY PAGE
Hey people, the ones critical Keith Richards I’m guessing a lot of you might be younger? I don’t know. I give Kieth credit for his honesty, I also realize that there was a lot of competition in the day. Is it possible Kieth just meant it wasn’t his kind of music? and we’re not getting it firsthand that’s for sure. Remember we’re all trying to make our lives work here. 😊💜
He suggested another guitar player because he cared about Jimmy’s well being and what he was going through. It’s common sense for most musicians to have another guitar player for such a complex song such as Achilles. If you wrote a song similar to that and told band mates or recording engineer that you plan to play it by yourself live they’d laugh at you
The thing with Keith is he got bagged for saying what he did about Zep. He was just telling it how it is. He wasn't being malicious, he's too cool for stuff like that.
"Never worry Keith. That's why I play a Double-Neck now." - Jimmy Page.
Wow funny I never liked the rolling Stones.
It didn't help that Page was in the midst of a major heroin addiction.
Wasnt Keith on heroin too in 77? Jimmy didnt get clean until early to mid 80s, not sure when Keith stopped
@@vicvega3614 Keef did so much that he's probably still got some in his system today. 🤣
@@A_Final_Hit Page and Clapton got clean way before that, in fact Clapton got Page into rehab, Clapton, Page, Jeff Beck, and Stevie Winwood were doing a tour in the early 80s called the Britain invasion tour and Page was so high he couldnt play and he was really skinny so Eric got him help.
@@vicvega3614 Cleaned up in 78 after his big bust in 77.
@@ed52369 yes you are right apparently it was cocaine that Keith continued to use until 2006, and he quit cigarettes in 2019, he still has an occasional drink usually vodka and orange soda 🤢 🤮
How could you not like Zep at all. They were fantastic
Personal taste. Frank Zappa was amazing but I can't stand most of his music. Prince was perhaps the most talented musician in the last 100 years and while I like some of his songs, a lot of his stuff I don't like.
@@rrdream2400 good point 👍
@rrdream2400 agreed. For me, when Prince " rocked " I loved him, but when he was more funk & soul, he lost me. Amazingly talented guy, though
Keith ego gets in the way !?!
Were?.....The still ARE!!
Keith likes Jimmy but doesn't like his band, that's a backhanded compliment from where I come from.
Keith had made the comment when hearing Jimmy had a new band and heard a couple of the tracks that were recorded (before the album came out). Richards had stated many times he liked the guys alright in Zep but not the music. Same goes for Pete Townsend, who always ripped on Zep music. Interesting thing is, Page had played on early Who and Stones albums as the producers didn't like the respective bands guitar playing. Add to that, the Who almost lost Entwhistle and Moon who were fed up with the WHo's infighting and almost joined what would become Zeppelin. In each case The Stones and The Who, were two of the biggest bands at the time, both getting knocked off the top of the mountain once Zep hit the scene. More than a few in the business have said the negative comments towards Zep's music was sour grapes and being a bie jelly.
@@dlewtweentorla1210 good reply to my comment, I concur.
@@dlewtweentorla1210 Tell us about something Townsend doesn’t rip on.. here’s the thing.. if it weren’t for the low ceiling on that tiny stage the who might never of been so blessed.. Keith could play drums with anyone and it would be a blast.. The destruction of equipment that fed the flames of rock and roll happened quite by accident. On the far other hand Jimmy Page quite strategically evolved rock music and was extremely powerful in the direction of rock shows.. you may be too young to remember when small venues turned into stadium festival seating.. it wasn’t a Neil Pert acoustically perfect setting in the beginning of rock shows.. I saw Bowie on a 12” wooden stage in a new concrete convention center for Diamond Dogs and he hated the sound.. he told us so.. the phenomenon of Loud to reach the nose bleed crowd (multi functional goal) was perfected by 4 sticks.. everyone else listened and followed along..
@@debmccorkle4845 I remember, your knowledge which I agree with completely, is such a breath of fresh air. Very few realize Jimmy's motivation beyond playing , from recording with so many different artists and styles, learning all he could about production and recording, and all at such a young age. Acquiring the knowledge, deciding to put a band together of like minded musicians that's loved music. Cheers !
That’s right. So as Jimmy probably thinks “who cares what Keith thinks “
Jimmy Page chose the best musicians that's why it's the best Led Zeppelin band of all time!!✌️😍
Not the best... Different.
@@user-vl2lz9fk9yYes, they were different…because they were the best.
They’re number two
Para mim, é a maior banda de rock de todos os tempos e o principal motivo é justamente o fato de ter juntado 4 virtuoses.
@@andrebessacostaLike the _Beatles._ _The Beatles_ had four amazing musicians, that could all write incredible songs and could all take the vocal lead and lose almost nothing when they did.
Or _Queen_ with their musical virtuosity and song writing, and literal *genius level IQs*
Keith needed another guitar player.
A Billion and six THANK YOUS. Keith is the MOST USELESS guitarist forever
@@CraigMalon-xw9thright, right, you bloody well right
He did. He always had at least one other player who could actually hang. While Keith futzed around with his open tuning riffs the other guy (mick Taylor, Ronnie wood, etc.) would actually handle the “complicated” parts lol
Ronnie woods was better than Keith
Keef is good at coming up with riffs & grooves. Thats it
J. P. Jones can play anything anytime 😅😁😜. John Paul JONES could have easily been second guitar as he was also multi talented😮😢😅😂😳🤔😁✌️🎸🎸🤔😳😎
Good point that. Zep had a certain pride that they could "handle anything between the 4 of us" - but it would have helped if Plant could have played guitar (or keyboard) as well, to ease the load on the other 3. I wouldn't want anyone taking the bass over from JPJ, he was essential working with John Bonham as he did
Jonesey has said that he had to cover a lot more ground live for songs like ALS.
But then you would need another bass player!
Don't like Led Zeppelin?
Are you on drugs?
Oh, sorry. Nevermind.
I love Keith and the Stones, but he was just jealous, imo.
@@TylerD288 absolutely. I agree on everything you just said.
😂😂😂
Nah, Led Zeppelin didn't need anyone else. The four formed a perfect band
How anyone doesnt like Zeppelin is beyond me!!
There are plenty nowadays that don’t like Led Zeppelin or even know them
Yes, I've said the same about The Beatles until I realized people all don't have the same likes and dislikes as me. Zeppelin stole a lot of their music and I don't find myself fascinated by them like my teen years.
Jealousy is a mf. Lots of the 60’s musicians got bitter that their star was fading as Zeppelin was on the rise.
@@robwood1987no it just doesn’t sound good to my ears can appreciate them as musicians though
@@timfool Approximately 10 songs are in contention: Stairway to Heaven (court case won by Zep), Babe I'm Gonna Leave You, Dazed and Confused, The Lemon Song, Bring it on Home, Since I've Been Loving You, Bron-Y-Aur Stomp, Hats of to Roy Harper, In My Time of Dying and Boogie with Stu.
"i don't think anybody steals anything; all of us borrow" --B.B. King
Prime Zeppelin will always be untouchable!
He plays all over the neck of the guitar. Keeeeef is a modern day maestro.
Naw- multi tracking/guitar layering was Maestro JP’s specialty. He figured how to play Stairway live via the Gib Double Neck. Amazing.
Thats an excellent point.
Presence, one of my favorites
Page could play two guitar parts because he was a much better guitarist than Richards.
Richard’s can play Robert Johnson songs on an acoustic guitar and they sound great. Keith is and always was a great guitarist, he chooses to play simple riffs because they fit the groove of the song better. Keith is the driving force behind the sound of The Rolling Stones. No working guitarist in competing bands of the time thought he was anything but the sound of the Stones. Great rhythm guitarists that seldom play leads are crucial to keeping a solid groove.
Led Zeppelin fans think because a guitar riff is more complicated it makes it better, yet the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history are the most simple ones. Focusing on if the music actually sounds good is the actual purpose.
Richard's can do it too. It's a choice you make in the studio. It's not hard to play over your own track. You have to decide. Can I Replicant this live?. If you don't mind if the record and live are different, then go ahead. This isn't about skill.
I love when fans of a band hate on others because they don't share the same taste
@@alcaeus701 you're right. Zeppelin is just better as a band and weren't a washed up band
Presence is filled with layers of masterful guitar passages, building and building to orgasmic solos! Almost impossible to play live, but if anyone can do it, Jimmy Page can!
That's a good review. Are you a record critic? You should look into that.
@@user-zf8ge7qj6m No, I'm not, but thanks for the compliment! I have, however, written a very lengthy paper on the meaning of the lyrics to Stairway to Heaven.
How can you not like Led Zeppelin?
It's easy.
@@langstonanderson6558how could anyone who loves rock n roll not like Led Zeppelin?
Biggest rip off artists ever
@@tankdiggs8974 yea except all the amazing lyrics melodies and complex chords they came up with, Sorry but Zeppelin moved way past simple 12 bar blues
@vicvega3614 theybstill ripped off more bands than anyone else ever. I'm jot saying they werent players. All 4 were top tier but I lose all the respect when I find out. How they they just robbed other artists blind. For multiple hits.
Zep blows the Stones out of the fucking water.
Literally speaking, both would sink in water due to the buoyancy issue.
😂😂😂
Of course they do sweetie 🥀
@@maxonlamb8063 💀😂😂💀
Yeah no shit but Keith and Jimmy were both really fucked in the head at this point
Keith, Clapton, page, Beck, and ron wood were the Vangaurd of guitar work from the late 60's thru the 80's
IMHO should be every guitarist favorite album
I'm a guitar player - a pretty good one - and it's not my favorite
I'm a pretty good one myself and that album did something for me bro, sorry you didn't have the same experience and I don't mean covers. I've never played one song off that album and never would.
What album is that?
@@mattbartolovich8228 Prescence
Keith Richard's is not one tenth the guitar player that Jimmy page is
He’s at least as good of a song writer, which is far more important than your ability to do fiddly bits up and down the neck.
@@MountainBlade and you've never played guitar
@@MountainBlade- not even close. Led Zeppelin’s compositions are way more complex than anything Rolling Stones ever did.
@@JagshemasherComplexity does not equal quality. Both Paige and Richards have written some all time classic songs.
@@pinkled4429 I’m playing guitar with my band at a show tonight, I’m guessing you’ll be at home jerking off, enjoy that.
They did have another guitar player in JPJ, but unfortunately, he was also the bass and keyboard player.
Presence is a great album.
i've been misunderstanding richards in regards to page - and would like to say...all hail the guitarists who have reached a high level with it
He always did .
It doesn't matter, doesn't change the way Jimmy Page plays 100 better than Richard's.
Why? Does it really matter?
@@JiMMY-my1ds Point taken. Nothing really to be gained from the comment. But there's a lesson that there's an element of politics in the music industry that not all are aware of. I respect your question brother btw
it's a backhanded compliment. "hey buddy i like you but i think your work sucks..." richards is mighty jealous
Jimmy is by far the best guitarist I’d have learned from
Keith Richards is no one to give any advice about the guitar to.
Except the fact he has came up with a handful of some of the most iconic guitar riffs in rock history and is one of the most succeful songwriters with his partnership with Mick. But yeah other than that not much 🙄
@@sambakery2006 oh no now don't take anything away from him he was one of the biggest pop stars of the day hahaha. Just because he couldn't do progressive rock are Jazz Rock Fusion like Jeff Beck Jan akkerman Steve h o w e Allan Holdsworth Al Di Meola Joe Satriani. But you and I know that's just simplistic stuff anyone could do that but that pop stuff is really difficult hahaha I mean you can ask anyone about that It's Complicated music. I mean just ask Madonna Michael Jackson George Michael the Herman's Hermits Donny Osmond Karen Carpenter hahaha hahaha hahaha.. when it comes to Pure musicianship Emerson Lake and Palmer focus and yes why they just don't have anything on those pop rock Heroes of yours. LOL
@@sambakery2006 The Monkees hahaha. I didn't even know at the time I was making my comment hahaha boy did I ever hit the nail on the head. Freaking Mickey dolenz LOL you have got to be kidding me ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
@@edljnehan2811 Can you like name who you're talking about in you're comments. Makes then very confusing to understand.
@@edljnehan2811 Did I ever mention anything about The Monkees being top musicians. No I didn't lol. That's my profile picture because It's from a music video I find funny, that's it lol. Anyways it's just completely relevant to the conversation so don't get why you brought it up lol
Regardless of his addiction........(and I'm not condoning) it gave Led Zepplin........Jimmy Page, ......he is brilliant......no other could pull this off.....he's the best...... it gave Led Zepplin an edge.........Jimmy Page is the best in my book.......and he will remain the best.......I am happy that he kicked the habbit.....not becoming a statistic.....the world of music would not be the same without this beautiful man.......most renowned......I love you Jimmy Page........❤
Everyone I've known who doesn't like LZ has poor taste in music or is tone deaf. Especially the "they stole all their songs" crowd. All of ya, get bent.
Yeah that's so overstated. Have the people who trot that line out actually listened to the original songs that Zeppelin 'stole'? They are basically entire new songs. 'Inspired by', at most.
I aint listen to pedophiles the o
Should they also get off your lawn? 😂
But it is true. They are shit and highly overrated.
Yea, like Eric Clapton, total musical poseur who doesn’t like lz
Keith Richards couldn't tie Jimmy's shoe laces. People don't realize the amount of work and time Jimmy put into Led Zeppelin!! Keith just showed up high and played, Jimmy was the engineer and showed up high and played!
No one could play wild horses, can’t you hear me knocking, gimme shelter etc with keith Richards’s feeling and finesse…certainly not jimmy page
@@narendraatluri4960 that is a Great song!!! Can't you hear me knocking!!! And a great riff no doubt
Jimmy Page undoubtedly is the BEST❤
Badass song
Zeppelin ❤🎉
Four gifted individual's,,,coming together at the right time,in RocknRoll History 👍
This is a horrible taint on the thoughts of a bohemian.. someone so free as Keith.. who shines so much love into music.. who has embraced everything from the basement floor up.. someone who has the creds to pluperfect any music he enjoys.. to say this publicly.. well, it hurts me heart.. not because the mighty zep can’t withstand critics.. God knows that’s been done magnificently.. it’s just that my main man Keef here.. he’s showing his well deserved place in history and it smacks lilts of ethnocentric.. he is not too old because he has become a spirit in rock.. really his work will haunt the world as long as there are material bits to it.. it just makes the God Father of Rock look less invincible.. not to appreciate the iconic place in history Led Zeppelin holds.. Loud evolved well thanks to Jimmy & John.. thunderous rock took shape from the tiny mono footprint.. and this is what he has to say about it?
Jimmy❤
Work ethic makes all the difference.
Led Zeppelin is the best rock band there has ever been! They opened the curtain and let the blind see the sun. They invited the wheel. There manager is also a mountain mover!!
love it!!!!
That's my favorite Zeppelin song- Achilles last stand.
The inspiration for Heart's Barracuda.
The mighty Led Zeppelin. Best band ever.
Respect to keith but he couldn't hold Jimmy's jockstrap.
Keith is good, but he will never be AS GOOD as
JIMMY PAGE!!!!!
Why would he want to?
Keith is more of a songwriter than a flashy guitarist which I respect a lot more.
@@robbielux8353 i agree and all this songs and riff itts make him greater
than page and everoyone ellse unique in popular music history
@@robbielux8353 and led zeppelin70%hårdrock blues folkmusik 30% soo more respect cllasier music
Both are great guitar players but Paige was better, maybe the best.
@@vitolipari3406 Jimmy Page.....IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE........THE BEST..........
LED ZEPPLIN..........THE BEST
He was very, very good. But barely even top five if we're talking "best".
Greta Van Fleet did a great job with LZ Highway Tune. Robert Plant said in an interview he thought they did a great job. Also that he "hated them " 🤣 because they were still so young. He wanted to go back to his youth too. He was pretty cool.
Page's reply to Richards' suggestion that Zep take on another guitarist was...
"Then it wouldn't be Led Zeppelin"
Watch the last tour, the one that ended early, from the DVD set. They do that song perfectly.
Yeah sure... And then get the bootlegs from the Knebworth gigs and hear what they REALLY played on those nights, not the studio-doctored stuff from "LZ - DVD". That stuff is about as "live" as "KISS Alive".
Also, LZ never did anything "perfectly" live on stage. They were notoriously hit-and-miss, especially Bonham and Page. Plant had awful nights, too. His voice was never the same after he damaged it severely in 1973 or so. They were great when everything came together - but half of the time it didn't.
I like the ccver and inside art. Achilles' Last Stand is my favorite track. I think it's over 8 minutes.
Even Brown or White dope couldn't help richards being a more creative guitar player. Guy opens his mouth when he's not able to do half of Page's work on stage.
What work? Playing sloppy-ass repeat patterns for ten minutes and calling it a "guitar solo"?
How can he not like Led Zeppelin.
Keith.....you should have a lot of respect for Jimmy Page!!! GOAT
You could learn everything from him when it comes to playing the guitar...and not just playing three cords on one 🎸
Yes indeed!
I could never figure out how Page never got lost in all the notes and chords. I get lost sometimes just listening.
Page was part of arguably the most powerful rock 3 piece ever.
In the closeup of Kieth, he looked like an AI generated cartoon character.
Jimmy Page = Brilliance
Terry Reid was asked to be lead singer of Led Zeppelin so that would’ve been a phenomenal version of Led Zeppelin even if quite different with 2 guitarists and the Super-lung singer himself! Terry Reid actually told Page to see Rainbow which was Plant and Bonham’s band.
All this hate towards Keith. He actually said that Jimmy is Led Zeppelin. He didn't care for Bonham's drumming and Plant's singing... Plant doesn't care for his singing style during this period, either. Keith and Jimmy are absolutely the same in one important and brilliant way. It's their genius ability to hear and layer guitar parts - melding the parts into one. By the way, they both have huge respect for one another as musicians.
Someone not caring for Bonhams drumming is some braindead shit.
Presense is one of my favorite LZ albums. Though both play guitar they couldn't be more different musicians. While Keith's rudimentary writing and playing style make the Stones what they are. Jimmy is the polar opposite with complex compositions and live performances.
I saw The Rolling Stones live during their Steel Wheels tour.
Behind the backdrop I could see two guitarist playing the whole time Keith and Ronnie were swinging their arms around and prancing around on stage.
Many other people who have seen them before and after I saw them said the same thing.
And when Keith does play guitar live he has his guitars tuned to an open tuning,
just like you would do if you are using a bottleneck slide.
Keith has no right to judge any other guitarist
Especially Jimmy Page.
🤣 Right
You should go and see a doctor for those hallucinations.
Also, you do know that a lot of Page's guitar playing is in open tunings, yes?
@@henrygvidonas9573 Brian Jones was a much better guitar player and more talented.
That is why Led Zeppelin... is Led Zeppelin.
Yeah. They could have brought in Pat Smear.
Ha, good old Pat Smear. The happiest guy in rock music.
Many bands with only one guitar but you'll hear 2 guitars in the recorded album. Like a stairway to heaven, also in a song Black dog you can hear the 2nd lead in the music.
It would have been hard to bring a new member in: I wonder if Page would have wanted to have too much control over what the other guitarist was doing: he wanted the guitar to be just so. Another personality & style in the guitar department and it's a whole new band. But perhaps they were ready for that after Presence - Page didn't do quite so much in the last album, for well-known reasons..
The Song Remains The Same, Kashmir and Achilles Last Stand all had alot of guitar layering in them in the studio. Live was another matter and Jimmy did the best he could. In 1977 at MSQ, Page performed all 3 songs with no layers at all and it was admirable. Yet, when I saw Page & Plant with full orchestra, the sounds you heard in The Song Remains The Same were staggering!
Tea For One - Zep playing the blues in G Minors
That song is very similar to “Since I’ve Been Loving You”. Almost sounds like a different take of the song.
We are talking about playing an instrument, not digging ditches.
Way cool 😎! Good album. Rock On. The Atomik sends. Peace ✌. 😊
There wasn't room on that stage for a second guitar player. Everyone knows that. 😊
Of course. However, I would like to see any guitar player try and keep up with the band as well as Page did.
Achilles last stand is one of the top five songs to listen to on headphones.
My favorite Zep album
THE GOAT !!!!
When I was a kid, I had a dream that Bill Wyman quit Rolling Stones. Band hadn't found a new bass guitarist yet. They had to go on stage. Keef strapped on both a guitar and a bass guitar. It wasn't even a double necked instrument. It was 2 single necked instruments strapped to the one musician. Keef worked so hard. He kept moving his hands back & forth between the 2 instruments. He didn't miss a note, but he was exhausted afterwards. He said it was too hard to do that night after night, and that they needed to find a bass guitarist ASAP.
😌💭 🎸🎸
Мой любимый гитарист Jimmy Page , ты настоящий шедевр, а группа которую ты создал, оказалась лучшей из лучших. ❤❤Led Zeppelin это легендарная группа!✨БРАВО JIMMY PAGE 🎸 ✨🎹🎸🥁🎤🎸👏👏👏
How can anyone say who’s better between the Stones and Zeppelin? You can’t compare them. Enjoy each one for who they are.
I agree with Keith Richards at least as far as live performances go. Zepplin was one of those bands that definitely needed a second or third guitarist on stage when they performed live, and the lack of that extra guitar or two is noticeable on so many of the recordings of Live Zeppelin songs
Yep. Zeppelin struggled live at times. A second guitarist would have helped.
Heroin will make it much worse too
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Jimmy Page does two guitar players, while Keith Richards can't do one! Brian Jones and Mick Taylor were better Stones guitarists!
I'm in a 3 piece power trio. It's extremely challenging and wish we had another guitarist or keyboardist.
Truth ❤
Achilles Last Stand is my second favorite LZ song
Keith Richards? Who’s that?
Just look at him(Keith) you can see he has no taste😂
Page is one of the 3 greatest riff writers in history.
Page don’t need advice from anyone
Somebody needs to tell Keith to shut up!!!
Envy is a HELLUVA DRUG!!!
he's the reason I got my first guitar, at 8 yrs old😊
I've got my medicine,that's it
Presence is still my favorite LZ album - I don't care what anyone has to say about it. When you begin with Achilles Last Stand, then end with Tea For One, how can any album of work be any more blissfull? It's the Dark Horse of LZ album's.
When I was 15, I bought LZ 1 right after its release. I bought every album after that as soon as they were available. I could feel the end coming. The clues were in the music. The band had changed and the audience had changed. The rock music scene had changed. Some of you will know what I mean.
Best ever
Not the mention Jimmy played this live during his heroin years, too.
"Achilles Last Stand" is epic. Yes, Jimmy took up too much responsibility. Live he was sloppy. Nevertheless, he was amazing.
He was definitely overworked, but always gave a great show.
All the people arguing about which is a better guitar player are missing the more important point: These are two of the most successful guitar-riff-writers of all time. Nowadays, intermediate guitar players can learn to play most JP’s solos, but nobody is coming up with catchy guitar riffs like JP or Keith did consistently, album after album. That is the genius part IMO.
NOBODY is arguing over who the better guitar player is. nobody in their right mind would say richards is even close to the greatest guitarist of all time - JIMMY PAGE
Hey people, the ones critical Keith Richards I’m guessing a lot of you might be younger? I don’t know. I give Kieth credit for his honesty, I also realize that there was a lot of competition in the day. Is it possible Kieth just meant it wasn’t his kind of music? and we’re not getting it firsthand that’s for sure. Remember we’re all trying to make our lives work here. 😊💜
If you don't like Led Zeppelin, the problem is you, Mr Richards.
And even Keith got sober!
Presence was a largely vacuous album recorded when they were burnt out, drugged or traumatised.
Traumatized..😅😅
@@SlickArmor yep, Plant was a wreck, you can hear it in his voice, particularly on Achilles last stand. Smashed up physically.
We saw Zepp in 77 !!!
Pontiac Silverdome.
Main floor.
$15.00
Great album
He suggested another guitar player because he cared about Jimmy’s well being and what he was going through. It’s common sense for most musicians to have another guitar player for such a complex song such as Achilles. If you wrote a song similar to that and told band mates or recording engineer that you plan to play it by yourself live they’d laugh at you
The thing with Keith is he got bagged for saying what he did about Zep. He was just telling it how it is. He wasn't being malicious, he's too cool for stuff like that.
Imagine what Zeppelin could have done with two guitarists!! 😍
Jimmy had two guitarists, he had John Paul Jones, an excellent multidimensional player.
Does Jimmy still smoke cigarettes?