I have an Action 5 Pro for vlogging. I find that soft look on the Ace Pro 2 really annoying! I prefer a sharper look of the Action 5 Pro. And I don't think saying colour grading the Action 5 Pro footage is much of an excuse for not using it. You can do one touch colour grading in the app. You literally don't have to know anything about colour grading to do it. And it really should be said, again, that Super Night Mode is for use when there is literally no light. In any other low light situation, you should be using Normal Mode
This is literally the best review on RUclips, the comparisons are justifiable not too biased and straight facts ! Love it ! Would love to see more videos on the ace pro 2 since I just bought it, I hope you make a bunch 😅
Depends on individual need actually. OA5 gives you the flexibility to control the final image. Not difficult to colour grade. Matches the clips out from my OP3 and A6700 👍👍👍 AP2 basically you are stuck with what the camera decides for you which is basically a super digital, AI-ish look 😑
@@sriramramiah5593 if i am biased, i will not be owning both this cameras myself. End of the day, we are all just consumers. What your liking might not be what is for everyone 😊
@@sriramramiah5593 If you are going for the one that gives you a more faithful picture then your choice should be GoPro hero 13, just don't use it at night. Both AP2 and AP5 have some sort of mod to the picture that it's not as natural as should be, if both have the same issue then Ill go with 10 bit over 8 bit for longevity of the footage.
J'ai beaucoup apprécié cet exposé sur les différences entre ces 2 caméras. J'ai appris des choses nouvelles. Merci et bravo Tamara 🙏🏻👍🏻 Pour ma part, je choisirais la Ace Pro 2 pour l'écran inclinable qui permet des prises de vue à raz terre, et pour la fonction zoom X2 qui est appréciable quand quelque chose est un peu éloignée.
Another great video. For me I just purchased the A5 pro. Because I have the dji pocket 3 and the mics as well so I needed something that I can multi cam. I'm new to multi cam so just wanted something within the same ecosystem...
I'm kind of stuck on this idea too. I don't want to have to spend massive amounts of time to match the color of the footage in post. I'd imagine it would be far easier to match a pocket three with an action 5 than an ace pro 2.
I ordered an AP2 - I had the AP1 I was reasonably happy with it did have a few issues with it like over blue the blues and sharpness on cloudy days , but with my disability having a larger touch screen is a must (I have it mounted on my wheelchair.) From what I can see from all the reviews the colours are better on AP2 than AP1 which I'm excited for.
I don’t own a vlogging action camera yet, but over the past month, I’ve been researching the market. I’m looking for something for personal use, where I can capture memories without spending much time on tweaking, post-editing, color grading, or other enhancements that turn your captured life experience into a video-product made for others. My goal is simply to preserve the 'past me' and the life I had, so that years from now, I can enjoy these moments with family. In my opinion, the Ace Pro 2 could be the ultimate vlogging camera with its quality-of-life features and ease of use... BUT, the image indeed looks soft and out of focus ALL THE TIME in EVERY video I've watched, even after your professional tweaking and editing, so it’s a deal-breaker for me. And Insta360 is a hard skip for me until they introduce a close-focused lens. And hope it does not cost an arm and a leg. I want a camera to capture MY life, not to shape my life AROUND the camera to do its job well.
If you don't need weather resistant, pocket 3 is a better tool for everyday life but if you need the weather proofing, action cam is the way to go. Getting both is also an option, pocket 3 and an action cam
If you want to use it for personal memories, I would recommend the DJI Action 4. Since the Action 5 Pro came out, the Action 4 is available for a really good price. And the footage is still very good.
Got my AP2 a few days ago. Planning to use it for moto vlogs and family adventures. Haven't explored all the features yet, but low-light shots have been amazing so far. Audio's a huge plus too
I have seen many comparisons, but yours accurately highlighted how the AP2's internal mics can distort the voice, making it sound a bit robotic and phone-like. Thanks.
I’ve started following you because youre literally the only creator in this niche that talks about camera quality keeping it real. Thank you so much. I was thinking of maybe getting an ace pro 2 for some car shots, but i guess I’ll keep using my action 4 and insta360 x4 for now. Matching the footage (or at least get as close as possible) to a professional camera is an absolute must for my use case scenario. I shoot a lot of videos for clients with sony fx series cameras. The pocket 3 has become my go to gimbal camera lately (so i can run and gun everything and still have a gimbal in my pocket for some shots). I’ve literally started a new project with a client where we need a lot of footage where he’s driving, and since we have to be as mobile as possible action cameras are exactly what we need. I’ve just tested out yesterday the 360 on the hood and the action 4 inside. Haven’t even had time to review the footage yet haha. But thank you for sharing that the ilog isn’t mature at all, highly appreciated! 🤗
Awesome comparison video ❤ it!. I picked up the DJI Action 5 Pro based on your previous videos and it arrived the day the Ace Pro 2 was announced. Good to see the differences for each cam highlighted here in your video.
I’m leaning towards the Ace Pro, I’ve got an older Osmo Action, but the simplicity and features of the Ace Pro are really appealing. I use it primarily for family vacations with the kids and having something that can help me edit those videos into a nice package is a bonus. That and I like the look of the night mode on the Action two over the DJI version
Sometimes when mounting the Ace Pro 2 the flip screen is trapped and you can't see it or you may not want it up and not having a forward facing screen is a problem. It's nice being able to see the front screen and make adjustments with the DJI camera without having to remove it from my helmet. I also like having the smaller DJI camera for action sports. Nice video as always Tamara.
I've only had my Action 4 a month having purchased new at a price I consider excellent value. I waited for the Action 5 to release and be reviewed before purchasing the Action 4. The advise Tamara gives to think about what you will use the camera for, while you could say obvious is none the less totally valid. I would add researching reviews as close to your particular use case to the list. And also keep in mind not all features you see can be combined which is not always as clear as it might be. My primary use case was to capture family cycling outings, mainly shooting my child riding ahead or behind me (opposed to a POV shot of myself riding). A quick release mounting system, to swap camera between different mounts important to me for this. I also knew I wanted to use horizon balancing so I get gimbal like level footage and any cornering angle of the rider I'm filming captured with a level horizon. I also *really* wanted to be able to shoot 4:3 (or more flexible) so I could crop to 9:16 or 16:9 in post. I failed in that last want with the Action 4. The Horizon Steady only available in 16:9. Had I gone GoPro Hero 13 I could have achieved this in 4:3 (but not 8:7). The Ace Pro and Ace Pro 2 I could have achieved horizon balancing in Freeform mode (although still not sure if in camera or post only) and note this would limit to 4K not the 8K with zoom potential. Details like this are really hard to determine, most in depth reviews don't touch on this. Nobody mentions the Action 4 doesn't have a spot metering mode for exposure. Even with extensive research I don't think you really know these cameras until you have one. Very few reviews talk much about software and apps for those that want to use the native apps the product comes with for retrieving video from the camera and simple edits. I find the Ace 2 an intriguing option though. I think I'm already too deep in DJI eco system with numerous DJI action specific mounts to change, but never say never.
I picked up the Ace Pro 2, but it didn't blow me away. Since I use the Pocket 3 and DJI Mic 2's, I'm thinking about returning it for the Action 5. The one thing that is keeping me from doing so is the audio quality straight out of the Ace Pro 2. I will primarily use an action cam on the beach, in or near water where I wouldn't want to bother with, nor would I have a place to clip (no shirt) a wireless mic. In this situation, I want to be able to bring 1 camera for snorkeling/water sports and also a beach vlog. I can see myself taking the wind guard off, going snorkeling, drying the camera off and putting the wind guard back on and doing a beach vlog. I may have to get over the fact that I actually like the look of the Action 5 and don't mind color grading, even though it does look a bit oversharpened.
Thanks for this comparison review. I feel like I'm leaning towards getting the Action 5 pro. In my opinion like a better all rounder for both casual and hardcore Action cam users.
Being a hiking channel in windy conditions the mic cover on the Ace Pro 2 is really appealing, the flip screen would assist with lining up the composition on tripod shots. As I have the Insta360 x4 , the colour science should be similar too. 🤔 Really don’t think your viewers will notice the difference with only being 8 bit either.
People keep saying that the internal storage is important in case you forget you memory card. Why would you remove your memory card From your camera? I transfer my videos or photos by connecting the camera straight to the computer, it’s easier than removing the memory plug it in your computer, removing it from your computer then put it in back in your camera. When you can just plug a cable from your camera to your computer. Internal Storage is important because you have more storage to shoot.
Thanks for another great video 👍. I am new to using these types of cameras. I do photography and usually in manual mode. I bought the action 5 pro a few weeks ago, mainly for making videos when I'm cycling, walking or on holiday. I haven't really used the camera yet. I always find these types of comparison videos difficult, because I haven't seen or know the environment that is being filmed myself. I bought the action 5 pro because of the internal storage, energy consumption.
I have used GoPro for more than a decade to film my fishing trips, but I am looking to change to one of these two. I generally use the camera's auto settings and point-and-shoot, often from a head or chest mount, so audio straight out of the camera is important to me. The GoPro Media Mod worked fine for this. It appears the Ace Pro 2 will be my best fit for what I shoot - with my only concern being the extra size and weight ....
Love my Action 4. Use it on my motorcycle daily with the Mic 2. I literally just leave it on auto most of the time day and night other than just adding ND filter during the day, looks great and I always get compliments on quality.
@@Sixbagzz Im looking for the exact same setup sir. How good are the voice commands through the DJI 2/OA5 to operate the camera in such situations? It is important decider for me. Insta360 voice commands are crap on my x4 and go3.
Finally, the comparison we needed. I'm leaning toward the Acepro 2 for the overall look, but DJI is hanging in there-just not so great in low light and sharpness. Also, what's up with the DJI lens flares? I don't think Action 4 had that issue
Another excellent presentation, Tamara. I have an Action 3, and can't afford to upgrade, but were I doing so I would have been helped a lot by this, which was interesting to watch anyway.
Another great comparison. Thanks Tamara! I'm currently using a Pocket 3 and would like to complement it with an action camera due to the fixed focus and the ruggedness. Leaning towards the Action 5, but the recent update on the bitrate has me confused in this way that some report the image quality in the standard bitrate is better than the new high bitrate mode (supposedly more grainy when zoomed in). What is your experience with the update or what is your recommendation (and was this clip shot in standard or high?) thanks!
Cannot buy the ace Pro 2 in Canada through Amazon or Best buy since its release could only buy it directly from insta360 and their return policy seems to have some serious flaws because they required that it be in the box and unopened and be returned within 15 days in order to get a refund. How are we supposed to find out if we like the camera or not if we can't take it out of the box?
Does it have the ability to display time stamp of date/time during recording or playback? I really enjoy watching my old home videos from when i was a kid and seeing a date/time and would like the same as I use the camera to create my own home videos for my child. Or is there another camera you recommend for this? Ideally I’d want pause recording and timestamp display
It almost looks like the Ace Pro 2 is out of focus, when it comes to the sharpness in "selfie" situation, because the background looks sharper than the person. The camera is very close to the subject and the aperture is f/2.6, higher than Osmo, so the depth of field will be smaller/narrower than with Osmo Action. It would be interesting to show how close the Ace Pro can focus to eliminate my suspicion.
Thank you for your work! I'm still undecided because I won't do much color grading, but battery and size (and price) are what I like about the Action 5... Also I'm used to the app from my original Osmo Pocket 1. The better internal mic and the "point and shoot" settings of the Insta are why I'm still undecided. What you mentioned about the sharpness of the Insta was also very helpful. Thank you for showing "normal" low light, such indoor scenarios are why I'm interested in that (children's birthdays and such 😅). Maybe I'll try to get a black Friday deal on an Action 4 until the HDR look has been fixed...
leaning towards the DJI. I’m using it for vlogs. i’ve been enjoying color grading and I like to travel so i want that clarity. i’ve been using the osmo pocket 2 & i want that step up in quality.
Excellent video comparing the two cameras. About two weeks ago, I purchased the Osmo Action 5 Pro. I already have the DJI mics, so it made sense to buy the Action 5. I have the Go Pro 12, but I prefer the Action 5. I most likely will give the GoPro 12 to my daughter. I used Action 5 a bit last week to record my jet-black working-line German Shepherd, which I posted on another channel. I really enjoy your channel since your reviews are in-depth.
Nice comparison thank you! The insta 360 feels like a really good vlogging cam as well as action footage… and that flip up screen solves the problems I’m having with recording on my phone!
For the convenience of "pick up the camera and get good footage" for me being a Dad, wanting to capture those special moments of my kiddos today that I can watch later in life, the Ace Pro 2 is the clear choice for me! EXCEPT, the close up shots of people (you or potentially me with my kiddos) are more out of focus on the Ace Pro 2. Seriously, look at the comparison at 0:36. I literally love how the Ace Pro 2 looks more "natural" (to my Dad eyes), the internal audio is better, and the overall look/convenience is just... better than A5P. Except the darn out of focus! Which is super important for my wants/needs. I was ready to pull the trigger until I saw someone else comment about the "out of focus" issue so I wanted to double check for myself. Now there's not a clear winner so I'm stuck on deciding which one (any and all cameras to consider for my wants/needs) to get :(
First of all this is one of your best videos! Well done! I like the new ace pro 2, but not fully convinced yet due to the sharpness. Still wondering what are the best settings for different situations and maybe insta360 can fix this soon with a firmware update?
I already own an OA4, and I'm planning to get another action cam, but i can't decide to get the OA5 or just get another OA4 at a discounted price. I don't see a lot of difference with the OA5, and i don't like the Ace Pro 2. Tough decision 😅
Nice comparison. I got the A5P and I’m wondering what’s better to use, hlg or dlog m? Also with dlog m, do you use color recovery on or off. And on the Mimo app there is a color recovery button, is that the official DJI Lut for the color profile? As for as color grading I’m willing to do a 1 click but nothing more, that’s why I’m asking. Thanks in advance, keep up the great work.
With D-Log M, the colour recovery in the camera doesn’t bake the conversion into the footage, it’s just giving you an idea of what the footage will look like when converted. In the Mimo app though when editing (not while previewing the footage during recording) DJI does have a conversion LUT that you can apply to the footage, so that could work for you if you mainly edit in the Mimo app. But if you also edit in a desktop editor you can download DJI’s conversion LUT as a quick conversion too.
My favorite thing about the Action 5 is that I can quickly convert and edit Dlog footage right in the Mimo app and it looks great and it’s fun to tweak. Same on my pocket 3. I can get the footage to almost match and it’s a breeze. The action 5 and pocket 3 are an awesome combo.
Perfect example of how one camera will work well for one situation over another 🙌🏾 I can imagine having the AP2 on my motorcycle helmet will feel weightier than the OA5, but for holding the camera and vlogging, it’s pretty much negligible. It just depends on use case.
The pause recording and discard recording features on the Ace Pro 2 are nice. The latter I would use. I don't like the look of the Ace Pro 2 footage, but it's way better than the weirdness from the Action 5. Of the two I would go Ace Pro 2. Free choice I would save £100 and buy the Action 4.
Great compariso video. I was wondering which action camera would fit my use case the best which is mostly me running and biking in picturesque places with only about 10% walking vlogs. Would a 360 degree camera be a better fit instead?
That would depend on whether you would want to spend the time reframing your shots in the edit from a 360 camera, or if you want to edit as easily as possible with the quickest workflow possible.
The only thing holding me back from AP2 is the Osmo 5's great battery life. Its a bit hard to swap batteries or do external powerbank when its mounted to a motorcycle helmet and using gloves mid ride.
Im actually confused of choosing a simple but cinematic with wide angle cam My contenders are: Insta360 x4 Ace pro 2 Dji action 5 pro Dji pocket 3 My usage are 1. Cinematic real estate indoor videos 2. Travel 3. eveyday use for architectures project What i need: - smooth stabilization, indoor some low light situation - great hdr sensor cuz low light room with bright window usually the case - super wide angle for indoor use What i think it can work for me - so EIS usually works bad in low light situation but i found using gyroflow with my avata 2 can work great cuz it uses motion data Thats why im thinking of dji action 5 or ace pro 2; they both can use gyroflow - im actually also interested in X4 360 camera cuz it has WIDE angle lens= better EIS But it dosent able to use gyroflow and bad lowlight sensor and not too great for making cinematic - it got me thinking! What if i use gyroflow with dji action 5 pro / ace pro 2 so i can get better stabilization, no jerky EIS in low light, wnd also wider angle Please help me on this 😁
If I was shooting indoor real estate videos, I’d go with the Pocket 3 because it has the best quality out of all of the cameras you mentioned even if the fov is narrower. But realistically, I’d actually go with a different camera entirely like the Sony ZV-1 M2 (if budget is a factor), and then get the Action 5, Ace Pro 2 or X4 for travel.
@TamaraGabrielUK the pocket 3 it's just not wide enough for me. Would you recommend the ace pro 2 or the dji action 5? Is the 8 bit vs 10 bit really that different ?
Hopefully you can do a Water Use/Underwater and Night/Indoor use ... Both "Low Light" footage looks good, But I wanna see Night/Dark Indoor footage... Thanks for your Awesome Review!!!! !!! I just Subscribed!
What about if you're using these cameras for what they're actually built for? As action cameras. Motorcycle riding, snowboarding, racing, diving, etc? Too much of this sphere of tech is about ego boosting and having one's face in a camera and not about capturing action. What about the accessories, the warranty, the service, etc?
If you want to know about services and the warranty, you can read about all that on the website. I'm interested about showing people how a camera actually performs when they USE it. I vlog, other people vlog, the cameras can be used for vlogging. You sound salty.
Hi Tamara, I am still thinking about choosing one of these. It is a bummer to see the DJI5 doesn't show the clouds natural. My question to you , do you know if there is a different option for the DJI5 to make the clouds as detailed as the AcePro 2 ?
What are the best settings for the A5 Pro so that my video quality doesn't come out so muddy. My videos make me look like I am a painting or something, and it looks so awful. Even in a well lit room, I look muddy. If you could please let me know, i would really appreciate it! Amazing content as always!
It's all about settings, understanding lighting, and in most cases to get the perfect shot you have to practice out in the field to understand what works and what does not work. The Ace Pro 2 seems solid enough! No professional camera, mobile camera, or action camera will shoot a perfect video out of the box. Learn lighting and, most of all, settings to adapt to any environment or situation. Otherwise, you will be stuck with the auto settings, and they always are terrible!
Why ever take out card. You do not get faster uploading. maybe pr 1tb you save 5min max. But use time remove and put back, so 2min, then risk forgetting it. Just drag drop by usb. It's build for it.
I was waiting for the Ace pro 2 and will get it, I love the free frame mode in my go3s. Sold my Osmo Pocket 3, just did not use it as much. So I guess the AP2 is a better companion for the funny Go3s. And I also don’t have to much time to edit so with the insta360 app everything is much easier 😜 And also do not really vlog… use it more for hikes, night stars timelaps and pets, so I guess I’m fine with my choise 😊
@@babyboy1971 yes I did, I just did not use it that much. And I guess the OP3 will be happier with the new owner. I just love the free frame mode so much that having to film everything twice was not for me… I am kind of lazy that way 😜🤣
@Fishycomics mentioned the action 5 pro C-type door was loose. It opens when you push it without pressing the button. The same thing happened on my dji 5. Do you also have such a problem? I wanted to ask if it could be a chronic problem.
Exactly like what I was thinking, actually every action camera is great, for certain features and depends on what your style is. It feels not fair to compare each pro & cons and diminishing the other, it kills the market. For me, (my 1 cent opinion) Ace = vlogging, DJI = underwater & hiking, Gopro = extreme sports such MTB, skateboard, surfing, Gopro 4K & Pocket 3 = socmed content I'm having the OA4 & GP4K2024 and not even a youtuber, a vlogger, a reviewer, or a "cinematic filmmaker". Just a normal dad recording his son growing up. Give a boring people like me the chance to enjoy videography without the setting headaches 😂
Agree with your conclusions and would lean towards the OA5... but ridiculous appearance of the clouds I think is a deal-breaker! Does this also happen in D-log M?
The Osmo Action 4 looks so much better than the Osmo Action 5 in standard mode. Wish it had the same night mode capabilities as the Action 5. I will be skipping this version and maybe upgrade on the OA6 or OA7 if they don't mess up the colors on those ones too.
Hi Tamara, just wondered if you have had any indication from Insta 360 about firmware updates for the Ace Pro 2 to add extra features or fix some of the issues various reviews are highlighting?
The 50% that the ace pro offers did make a difference Ohh also love your work fact that you take your time and provide such details is refreshing & educational 😊
I love my Action 5 Pro and I find it to be a perfect companion to my Osmo Pocket 3, but after testing it pretty rigorously for two weeks I find it very irritating that I have to manually tweak a lot of settings order to get it to look right. In D-Log M, it looks perfect. In normal 10 bit color, it’s stuck in PERMANENT HDR. This was a problem with the OG Ace Pro and they fixed it in firmware with a simple toggle. HDR ON or HDR OFF. Please, DJI, give us this in the next firmware update and soon. The last firmware update gave us high bitrate and other improvements (including a Super Night Mode that’s noticeably better). Now it’s time to give us that HDR toggle.
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Ugh, I ride my bike a lot at night, so the stabilization issues in low light are a dealbreaker for me.
I have an Action 5 Pro for vlogging. I find that soft look on the Ace Pro 2 really annoying! I prefer a sharper look of the Action 5 Pro. And I don't think saying colour grading the Action 5 Pro footage is much of an excuse for not using it. You can do one touch colour grading in the app. You literally don't have to know anything about colour grading to do it. And it really should be said, again, that Super Night Mode is for use when there is literally no light. In any other low light situation, you should be using Normal Mode
This is literally the best review on RUclips, the comparisons are justifiable not too biased and straight facts !
Love it ! Would love to see more videos on the ace pro 2 since I just bought it, I hope you make a bunch 😅
Thanks so much! I’ve got a couple of Ace Pro 2 videos coming 😊
@ looking forward to it just subbed !!
At last! A reviewer shows that other mic systems such as the Holland can be used with both these cameras with the USB TX! Bravo! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙌🏻
Depends on individual need actually.
OA5 gives you the flexibility to control the final image. Not difficult to colour grade. Matches the clips out from my OP3 and A6700 👍👍👍
AP2 basically you are stuck with what the camera decides for you which is basically a super digital, AI-ish look 😑
she literally said the ace pro 2 gives better natural footage in almost all scenarios than the OA5. You're just fooling yourself by being biased.....
@@sriramramiah5593 if i am biased, i will not be owning both this cameras myself. End of the day, we are all just consumers. What your liking might not be what is for everyone 😊
@@sriramramiah5593 If you are going for the one that gives you a more faithful picture then your choice should be GoPro hero 13, just don't use it at night.
Both AP2 and AP5 have some sort of mod to the picture that it's not as natural as should be, if both have the same issue then Ill go with 10 bit over 8 bit for longevity of the footage.
@@sriramramiah5593guess you never heard of LOG before.
J'ai beaucoup apprécié cet exposé sur les différences entre ces 2 caméras. J'ai appris des choses nouvelles. Merci et bravo Tamara 🙏🏻👍🏻
Pour ma part, je choisirais la Ace Pro 2 pour l'écran inclinable qui permet des prises de vue à raz terre, et pour la fonction zoom X2 qui est appréciable quand quelque chose est un peu éloignée.
Another great video. For me I just purchased the A5 pro. Because I have the dji pocket 3 and the mics as well so I needed something that I can multi cam. I'm new to multi cam so just wanted something within the same ecosystem...
Makes total sense! 😊
I'm kind of stuck on this idea too. I don't want to have to spend massive amounts of time to match the color of the footage in post. I'd imagine it would be far easier to match a pocket three with an action 5 than an ace pro 2.
@K9Mike Yep, much easier.
I ordered an AP2 - I had the AP1 I was reasonably happy with it did have a few issues with it like over blue the blues and sharpness on cloudy days , but with my disability having a larger touch screen is a must (I have it mounted on my wheelchair.) From what I can see from all the reviews the colours are better on AP2 than AP1 which I'm excited for.
I don’t own a vlogging action camera yet, but over the past month, I’ve been researching the market. I’m looking for something for personal use, where I can capture memories without spending much time on tweaking, post-editing, color grading, or other enhancements that turn your captured life experience into a video-product made for others. My goal is simply to preserve the 'past me' and the life I had, so that years from now, I can enjoy these moments with family.
In my opinion, the Ace Pro 2 could be the ultimate vlogging camera with its quality-of-life features and ease of use... BUT, the image indeed looks soft and out of focus ALL THE TIME in EVERY video I've watched, even after your professional tweaking and editing, so it’s a deal-breaker for me. And Insta360 is a hard skip for me until they introduce a close-focused lens. And hope it does not cost an arm and a leg.
I want a camera to capture MY life, not to shape my life AROUND the camera to do its job well.
If you don't need weather resistant, pocket 3 is a better tool for everyday life but if you need the weather proofing, action cam is the way to go.
Getting both is also an option, pocket 3 and an action cam
If you want to use it for personal memories, I would recommend the DJI Action 4. Since the Action 5 Pro came out, the Action 4 is available for a really good price. And the footage is still very good.
DJI Action 5 :) I tried both but action 5 wins for me!
Okay, I think ace pro2 is a better choice for me then, i enjoy ease of point and shoot haha
Got my AP2 a few days ago. Planning to use it for moto vlogs and family adventures. Haven't explored all the features yet, but low-light shots have been amazing so far. Audio's a huge plus too
For the love of God, DJI please add a toggle switch to disable HDR
I think it’s what everyone is waiting for 🙈
Set it to dlog and forget it. The gamut is rec709, gamma is wider. Don't use normal mode
YESS!
@@petrub27 does it have clouds enabled then? 🫣
And do something for blown out sky as well
I have seen many comparisons, but yours accurately highlighted how the AP2's internal mics can distort the voice, making it sound a bit robotic and phone-like. Thanks.
I’ve started following you because youre literally the only creator in this niche that talks about camera quality keeping it real. Thank you so much. I was thinking of maybe getting an ace pro 2 for some car shots, but i guess I’ll keep using my action 4 and insta360 x4 for now. Matching the footage (or at least get as close as possible) to a professional camera is an absolute must for my use case scenario. I shoot a lot of videos for clients with sony fx series cameras. The pocket 3 has become my go to gimbal camera lately (so i can run and gun everything and still have a gimbal in my pocket for some shots).
I’ve literally started a new project with a client where we need a lot of footage where he’s driving, and since we have to be as mobile as possible action cameras are exactly what we need. I’ve just tested out yesterday the 360 on the hood and the action 4 inside. Haven’t even had time to review the footage yet haha. But thank you for sharing that the ilog isn’t mature at all, highly appreciated! 🤗
No problem. Glad the video helped 😊
Awesome comparison video ❤ it!. I picked up the DJI Action 5 Pro based on your previous videos and it arrived the day the Ace Pro 2 was announced. Good to see the differences for each cam highlighted here in your video.
I’m leaning towards the Ace Pro, I’ve got an older Osmo Action, but the simplicity and features of the Ace Pro are really appealing. I use it primarily for family vacations with the kids and having something that can help me edit those videos into a nice package is a bonus. That and I like the look of the night mode on the Action two over the DJI version
Sometimes when mounting the Ace Pro 2 the flip screen is trapped and you can't see it or you may not want it up and not having a forward facing screen is a problem. It's nice being able to see the front screen and make adjustments with the DJI camera without having to remove it from my helmet. I also like having the smaller DJI camera for action sports. Nice video as always Tamara.
@@MainJet158 when using the Ace Pro 2 attached to my helmet, I use the phone as a viewer on the handlebar
I've only had my Action 4 a month having purchased new at a price I consider excellent value. I waited for the Action 5 to release and be reviewed before purchasing the Action 4. The advise Tamara gives to think about what you will use the camera for, while you could say obvious is none the less totally valid. I would add researching reviews as close to your particular use case to the list. And also keep in mind not all features you see can be combined which is not always as clear as it might be. My primary use case was to capture family cycling outings, mainly shooting my child riding ahead or behind me (opposed to a POV shot of myself riding). A quick release mounting system, to swap camera between different mounts important to me for this. I also knew I wanted to use horizon balancing so I get gimbal like level footage and any cornering angle of the rider I'm filming captured with a level horizon. I also *really* wanted to be able to shoot 4:3 (or more flexible) so I could crop to 9:16 or 16:9 in post. I failed in that last want with the Action 4. The Horizon Steady only available in 16:9. Had I gone GoPro Hero 13 I could have achieved this in 4:3 (but not 8:7). The Ace Pro and Ace Pro 2 I could have achieved horizon balancing in Freeform mode (although still not sure if in camera or post only) and note this would limit to 4K not the 8K with zoom potential. Details like this are really hard to determine, most in depth reviews don't touch on this. Nobody mentions the Action 4 doesn't have a spot metering mode for exposure. Even with extensive research I don't think you really know these cameras until you have one. Very few reviews talk much about software and apps for those that want to use the native apps the product comes with for retrieving video from the camera and simple edits. I find the Ace 2 an intriguing option though. I think I'm already too deep in DJI eco system with numerous DJI action specific mounts to change, but never say never.
@@gsbut Do you think it's worth to upgrade to A5 from A4?
You are an incredible reviewer. So thorough and engaging at the same time. Do you do all your editing and research on your own?
Thanks 😊 Yeah, I don’t have a team it’s just me.
I picked up the Ace Pro 2, but it didn't blow me away. Since I use the Pocket 3 and DJI Mic 2's, I'm thinking about returning it for the Action 5. The one thing that is keeping me from doing so is the audio quality straight out of the Ace Pro 2. I will primarily use an action cam on the beach, in or near water where I wouldn't want to bother with, nor would I have a place to clip (no shirt) a wireless mic. In this situation, I want to be able to bring 1 camera for snorkeling/water sports and also a beach vlog. I can see myself taking the wind guard off, going snorkeling, drying the camera off and putting the wind guard back on and doing a beach vlog. I may have to get over the fact that I actually like the look of the Action 5 and don't mind color grading, even though it does look a bit oversharpened.
Thanks for this comparison review. I feel like I'm leaning towards getting the Action 5 pro. In my opinion like a better all rounder for both casual and hardcore Action cam users.
Interesting as always Tamara, i love the fact that you give us your opnion too as you got great taste and knowledge when it comes to this kinda stuff
Thank you ☺️
@@TamaraGabrielUK Your welcome, gotta take my hat of to you always lol
Thank you, Tamara, you’ve been my guide in choosing my first Action Cam. It’s funny that so few people talk about GoPro these days.
I think the form factor is a big difference too. DJI actions are smaller and take less space.
Being a hiking channel in windy conditions the mic cover on the Ace Pro 2 is really appealing, the flip screen would assist with lining up the composition on tripod shots. As I have the Insta360 x4 , the colour science should be similar too. 🤔
Really don’t think your viewers will notice the difference with only being 8 bit either.
People keep saying that the internal storage is important in case you forget you memory card. Why would you remove your memory card From your camera? I transfer my videos or photos by connecting the camera straight to the computer, it’s easier than removing the memory plug it in your computer, removing it from your computer then put it in back in your camera. When you can just plug a cable from your camera to your computer. Internal Storage is important because you have more storage to shoot.
A wonderfully clear video setting out the pros and cons of both. Thank you Tamara.
Thanks for a comprehensive and informative video and most importantly you kept it interesting the whole time. A great video.
Thanks for another great video 👍. I am new to using these types of cameras. I do photography and usually in manual mode. I bought the action 5 pro a few weeks ago, mainly for making videos when I'm cycling, walking or on holiday. I haven't really used the camera yet. I always find these types of comparison videos difficult, because I haven't seen or know the environment that is being filmed myself. I bought the action 5 pro because of the internal storage, energy consumption.
Ace Pro 2. I don’t like these trumpet flares of the Action 5 pro when shooting evening/night
I have used GoPro for more than a decade to film my fishing trips, but I am looking to change to one of these two. I generally use the camera's auto settings and point-and-shoot, often from a head or chest mount, so audio straight out of the camera is important to me. The GoPro Media Mod worked fine for this. It appears the Ace Pro 2 will be my best fit for what I shoot - with my only concern being the extra size and weight ....
I’m waiting so long comparison between them! Thank you 👍🏾 you are doing a good job💯🎉
Great video! I’m getting an OA5 because it’s smaller, lighter, and I think the subject tracking is great for what I will use the camera for.
Love my Action 4. Use it on my motorcycle daily with the Mic 2. I literally just leave it on auto most of the time day and night other than just adding ND filter during the day, looks great and I always get compliments on quality.
@@Sixbagzz where do you put the mic?
@@whatthefitt inside my helmet front of mouth with magnet and I use a stick on metal thing that you use for the back of cell phones.
@@Sixbagzz Im looking for the exact same setup sir. How good are the voice commands through the DJI 2/OA5 to operate the camera in such situations? It is important decider for me. Insta360 voice commands are crap on my x4 and go3.
@ it’s good. Just get DJi.
Finally, the comparison we needed. I'm leaning toward the Acepro 2 for the overall look, but DJI is hanging in there-just not so great in low light and sharpness. Also, what's up with the DJI lens flares? I don't think Action 4 had that issue
Another excellent presentation, Tamara. I have an Action 3, and can't afford to upgrade, but were I doing so I would have been helped a lot by this, which was interesting to watch anyway.
Thanks, Jim. Hope you’re well 😊
FINALLY the review I was looking for.
Another great comparison. Thanks Tamara! I'm currently using a Pocket 3 and would like to complement it with an action camera due to the fixed focus and the ruggedness. Leaning towards the Action 5, but the recent update on the bitrate has me confused in this way that some report the image quality in the standard bitrate is better than the new high bitrate mode (supposedly more grainy when zoomed in). What is your experience with the update or what is your recommendation (and was this clip shot in standard or high?) thanks!
Cannot buy the ace Pro 2 in Canada through Amazon or Best buy since its release could only buy it directly from insta360 and their return policy seems to have some serious flaws because they required that it be in the box and unopened and be returned within 15 days in order to get a refund. How are we supposed to find out if we like the camera or not if we can't take it out of the box?
Does it have the ability to display time stamp of date/time during recording or playback? I really enjoy watching my old home videos from when i was a kid and seeing a date/time and would like the same as I use the camera to create my own home videos for my child. Or is there another camera you recommend for this? Ideally I’d want pause recording and timestamp display
It almost looks like the Ace Pro 2 is out of focus, when it comes to the sharpness in "selfie" situation, because the background looks sharper than the person. The camera is very close to the subject and the aperture is f/2.6, higher than Osmo, so the depth of field will be smaller/narrower than with Osmo Action. It would be interesting to show how close the Ace Pro can focus to eliminate my suspicion.
Look at 15:51, the color on the face......
Thank you for your work!
I'm still undecided because I won't do much color grading, but battery and size (and price) are what I like about the Action 5... Also I'm used to the app from my original Osmo Pocket 1. The better internal mic and the "point and shoot" settings of the Insta are why I'm still undecided. What you mentioned about the sharpness of the Insta was also very helpful.
Thank you for showing "normal" low light, such indoor scenarios are why I'm interested in that (children's birthdays and such 😅). Maybe I'll try to get a black Friday deal on an Action 4 until the HDR look has been fixed...
leaning towards the DJI. I’m using it for vlogs. i’ve been enjoying color grading and I like to travel so i want that clarity. i’ve been using the osmo pocket 2 & i want that step up in quality.
Excellent video comparing the two cameras. About two weeks ago, I purchased the Osmo Action 5 Pro. I already have the DJI mics, so it made sense to buy the Action 5. I have the Go Pro 12, but I prefer the Action 5. I most likely will give the GoPro 12 to my daughter. I used Action 5 a bit last week to record my jet-black working-line German Shepherd, which I posted on another channel.
I really enjoy your channel since your reviews are in-depth.
thanks for including the action 4 footage it was helpful and it looks good as well ....hard to choose
Nice comparison thank you! The insta 360 feels like a really good vlogging cam as well as action footage… and that flip up screen solves the problems I’m having with recording on my phone!
For the convenience of "pick up the camera and get good footage" for me being a Dad, wanting to capture those special moments of my kiddos today that I can watch later in life, the Ace Pro 2 is the clear choice for me! EXCEPT, the close up shots of people (you or potentially me with my kiddos) are more out of focus on the Ace Pro 2. Seriously, look at the comparison at 0:36. I literally love how the Ace Pro 2 looks more "natural" (to my Dad eyes), the internal audio is better, and the overall look/convenience is just... better than A5P. Except the darn out of focus! Which is super important for my wants/needs. I was ready to pull the trigger until I saw someone else comment about the "out of focus" issue so I wanted to double check for myself. Now there's not a clear winner so I'm stuck on deciding which one (any and all cameras to consider for my wants/needs) to get :(
great video. I wonder which camera will work better underwater when diving?
First of all this is one of your best videos! Well done! I like the new ace pro 2, but not fully convinced yet due to the sharpness. Still wondering what are the best settings for different situations and maybe insta360 can fix this soon with a firmware update?
Have you tried High sharpness?
Thank you ☺️ Let’s see what firmwares are released as time goes on.
I already own an OA4, and I'm planning to get another action cam, but i can't decide to get the OA5 or just get another OA4 at a discounted price. I don't see a lot of difference with the OA5, and i don't like the Ace Pro 2. Tough decision 😅
Super nice that i found you ! great videos! question: do you think the ACTION 5 PRO is good for IRL project ? thanks a lot!
Yes, either camera would.
I was hoping you would also talk about the phone apps. Seems like the ace is easier. I'm leaning toward the ace
Great video!! Since latest firmware, does Action5 (or any GoPro infact) have pause recording feature like insta360 ace pro?
Nope
@@TamaraGabrielUK thanks for the reply!
Nice comparison. I got the A5P and I’m wondering what’s better to use, hlg or dlog m? Also with dlog m, do you use color recovery on or off. And on the Mimo app there is a color recovery button, is that the official DJI Lut for the color profile? As for as color grading I’m willing to do a 1 click but nothing more, that’s why I’m asking. Thanks in advance, keep up the great work.
With D-Log M, the colour recovery in the camera doesn’t bake the conversion into the footage, it’s just giving you an idea of what the footage will look like when converted. In the Mimo app though when editing (not while previewing the footage during recording) DJI does have a conversion LUT that you can apply to the footage, so that could work for you if you mainly edit in the Mimo app. But if you also edit in a desktop editor you can download DJI’s conversion LUT as a quick conversion too.
@@TamaraGabrielUKthank you so much I couldn’t find this answer anywhere else.
My favorite thing about the Action 5 is that I can quickly convert and edit Dlog footage right in the Mimo app and it looks great and it’s fun to tweak. Same on my pocket 3. I can get the footage to almost match and it’s a breeze. The action 5 and pocket 3 are an awesome combo.
Ace Pro 2 is a bit chunky for things like a hat mount for fishing, but the OA5 Pro is darn near perfect if size is an issue 😁
Perfect example of how one camera will work well for one situation over another 🙌🏾 I can imagine having the AP2 on my motorcycle helmet will feel weightier than the OA5, but for holding the camera and vlogging, it’s pretty much negligible. It just depends on use case.
Nice video, thank you. I got the Ace Pro 2 and love it. Watching from Arizona. Btw, back in the day I used to live in Swindon 😊
What happens if Insta360 enables i-Log at 10-bit?😁👍
Great video Tamara! Can you tell me what mic that is you are using with the Ace pro 2 at 5:40?
Thanks! It’s this mic ruclips.net/video/xLgKIuNdqNU/видео.htmlsi=1lI3-l-eTm970yi7
Best review I’ve seen along with DC. Really interesting and let me know as an audience member which is best for me, thanks!
Thanks! I'm glad it was helpful! 😊
At 0:33 you can already see that the Ace Pro is a bit out of focus!! Even at medium sharpness 19:34
I agree
Yes. seen it a lot on others reviews, but no1 say anything. Payed off.
And total hollywood color profile
Hey, just wanted to say love your video,s so informative and with the right level of detail. Thanks.
Very thorough review.
The pause recording and discard recording features on the Ace Pro 2 are nice. The latter I would use. I don't like the look of the Ace Pro 2 footage, but it's way better than the weirdness from the Action 5. Of the two I would go Ace Pro 2. Free choice I would save £100 and buy the Action 4.
Thanks so much for the video, have already order insta360 ace pro 2 and dji mic 2 but I'm not sure I will get clean audio sounds when doing asmr video
Better have flat look than blown highlight. At least in flat look, it still prioritize the face exposure
Great compariso video. I was wondering which action camera would fit my use case the best which is mostly me running and biking in picturesque places with only about 10% walking vlogs. Would a 360 degree camera be a better fit instead?
That would depend on whether you would want to spend the time reframing your shots in the edit from a 360 camera, or if you want to edit as easily as possible with the quickest workflow possible.
@@TamaraGabrielUK That's a fair point to consider with 360 degree cameras, guess an action camera will work better for me ..cheers!
Great in depth review
The only thing holding me back from AP2 is the Osmo 5's great battery life. Its a bit hard to swap batteries or do external powerbank when its mounted to a motorcycle helmet and using gloves mid ride.
I think that on the AP2, the white balance needs to be adjusted before filming.
Im actually confused of choosing a simple but cinematic with wide angle cam
My contenders are:
Insta360 x4
Ace pro 2
Dji action 5 pro
Dji pocket 3
My usage are
1. Cinematic real estate indoor videos
2. Travel
3. eveyday use for architectures project
What i need:
- smooth stabilization, indoor some low light situation
- great hdr sensor cuz low light room with bright window usually the case
- super wide angle for indoor use
What i think it can work for me
- so EIS usually works bad in low light situation but i found using gyroflow with my avata 2 can work great cuz it uses motion data
Thats why im thinking of dji action 5 or ace pro 2; they both can use gyroflow
- im actually also interested in X4 360 camera cuz it has WIDE angle lens= better EIS
But it dosent able to use gyroflow and bad lowlight sensor and not too great for making cinematic
- it got me thinking! What if i use gyroflow with dji action 5 pro / ace pro 2 so i can get better stabilization, no jerky EIS in low light, wnd also wider angle
Please help me on this 😁
If I was shooting indoor real estate videos, I’d go with the Pocket 3 because it has the best quality out of all of the cameras you mentioned even if the fov is narrower. But realistically, I’d actually go with a different camera entirely like the Sony ZV-1 M2 (if budget is a factor), and then get the Action 5, Ace Pro 2 or X4 for travel.
@TamaraGabrielUK the pocket 3 it's just not wide enough for me. Would you recommend the ace pro 2 or the dji action 5? Is the 8 bit vs 10 bit really that different ?
: Is it overall, that the Acepro2 has issue with image quality ( if compared with A5 ).....or only the front facing camera when vlogging...?
Hopefully you can do a Water Use/Underwater and Night/Indoor use ... Both "Low Light" footage looks good, But I wanna see Night/Dark Indoor footage... Thanks for your Awesome Review!!!! !!! I just Subscribed!
Best comparison I’ve watched! Thank you 🙏🏻
Thanks for watching ☺️
What about if you're using these cameras for what they're actually built for? As action cameras. Motorcycle riding, snowboarding, racing, diving, etc? Too much of this sphere of tech is about ego boosting and having one's face in a camera and not about capturing action. What about the accessories, the warranty, the service, etc?
If you want to know about services and the warranty, you can read about all that on the website. I'm interested about showing people how a camera actually performs when they USE it. I vlog, other people vlog, the cameras can be used for vlogging. You sound salty.
i have both except dji mic, but why audio quality on OA5 with dji mic is better than AP2 with dji mic?
maybe i should swicth to another mic like rode
For SOOC video, which one would you prefer? The OA4, OA5 or ACE 2? Many thanks.
Hi Tamara, I am still thinking about choosing one of these. It is a bummer to see the DJI5 doesn't show the clouds natural. My question to you , do you know if there is a different option for the DJI5 to make the clouds as detailed as the AcePro 2 ?
Great video. Any big difference in audio quality between Action 4 and Action 5 when using DJI Mic 2?
Thanks 😊 Not when using the Mic 2.
What are the best settings for the A5 Pro so that my video quality doesn't come out so muddy. My videos make me look like I am a painting or something, and it looks so awful. Even in a well lit room, I look muddy. If you could please let me know, i would really appreciate it! Amazing content as always!
Are you shooting in the Normal colour profile?
@TamaraGabrielUK so currently, I am in the Normal 10Bit, and at other times, I am in D-Log M 10Bit.
Yeah, as I mentioned, I personally won’t be using the Normal colour profile because it just doesn’t look right. I’d only shoot in D-Log M for now.
@TamaraGabrielUK thank you so much for your help and guidance 🙏🏾 keep up the amazing work😊
It's all about settings, understanding lighting, and in most cases to get the perfect shot you have to practice out in the field to understand what works and what does not work. The Ace Pro 2 seems solid enough! No professional camera, mobile camera, or action camera will shoot a perfect video out of the box. Learn lighting and, most of all, settings to adapt to any environment or situation. Otherwise, you will be stuck with the auto settings, and they always are terrible!
Why ever take out card. You do not get faster uploading. maybe pr 1tb you save 5min max. But use time remove and put back, so 2min, then risk forgetting it.
Just drag drop by usb. It's build for it.
I was waiting for the Ace pro 2 and will get it, I love the free frame mode in my go3s. Sold my Osmo Pocket 3, just did not use it as much. So I guess the AP2 is a better companion for the funny Go3s. And I also don’t have to much time to edit so with the insta360 app everything is much easier 😜
And also do not really vlog… use it more for hikes, night stars timelaps and pets, so I guess I’m fine with my choise 😊
You sold your pocket 3? I love mine so much I’m selling my ZV1 to buy another Pocket! Whatever makes you happy though, the Go3S is awesome.
@@babyboy1971 yes I did, I just did not use it that much. And I guess the OP3 will be happier with the new owner.
I just love the free frame mode so much that having to film everything twice was not for me… I am kind of lazy that way 😜🤣
@iangel23 It’s not laziness, it’s convenience 😉
@@TamaraGabrielUK exactly!!! 👍 👏
@Fishycomics mentioned the action 5 pro C-type door was loose. It opens when you push it without pressing the button. The same thing happened on my dji 5. Do you also have such a problem? I wanted to ask if it could be a chronic problem.
I want to buy action cam, usually I use it for Moto vlogging. Which one do you suggest I can go with Action5 pro or Ace pro 2
Please tell me which video editor software you use to edit your videos?
Final Cut Pro
@@TamaraGabrielUK thank you
i hope dji will release an update soon that might improve the quality of the supernight mode since winter is coming
Exactly like what I was thinking, actually every action camera is great, for certain features and depends on what your style is. It feels not fair to compare each pro & cons and diminishing the other, it kills the market. For me, (my 1 cent opinion)
Ace = vlogging,
DJI = underwater & hiking,
Gopro = extreme sports such MTB, skateboard, surfing,
Gopro 4K & Pocket 3 = socmed content
I'm having the OA4 & GP4K2024 and not even a youtuber, a vlogger, a reviewer, or a "cinematic filmmaker". Just a normal dad recording his son growing up. Give a boring people like me the chance to enjoy videography without the setting headaches 😂
Is there a new Osmo Action 5 firmware update? I got an email from DJI implying there is. I’d be very interested in your thoughts on the new features.
Agree with your conclusions and would lean towards the OA5... but ridiculous appearance of the clouds I think is a deal-breaker! Does this also happen in D-log M?
Yeah, from what I’ve seen across my footage it does still seem to do that with the sky in D-Log M in some scenes as it would if shooting in Normal.
The Osmo Action 4 looks so much better than the Osmo Action 5 in standard mode. Wish it had the same night mode capabilities as the Action 5. I will be skipping this version and maybe upgrade on the OA6 or OA7 if they don't mess up the colors on those ones too.
3:34 action 4 is just an amazing action camera ❤❤ thank me later
Hi Tamara, just wondered if you have had any indication from Insta 360 about firmware updates for the Ace Pro 2 to add extra features or fix some of the issues various reviews are highlighting?
The 50% that the ace pro offers did make a difference
Ohh also love your work fact that you take your time and provide such details is refreshing & educational 😊
This is great info and insights , thanks and we appreciate it Tam. 😎👍
Both of these are great camera's. Great comparison, and you probably can't go work with either of them. Thanks for sharing.
You’re welcome 😊
I love my Action 5 Pro and I find it to be a perfect companion to my Osmo Pocket 3, but after testing it pretty rigorously for two weeks I find it very irritating that I have to manually tweak a lot of settings order to get it to look right. In D-Log M, it looks perfect. In normal 10 bit color, it’s stuck in PERMANENT HDR. This was a problem with the OG Ace Pro and they fixed it in firmware with a simple toggle.
HDR ON or HDR OFF.
Please, DJI, give us this in the next firmware update and soon. The last firmware update gave us high bitrate and other improvements (including a Super Night Mode that’s noticeably better). Now it’s time to give us that HDR toggle.
Why do you need both?
@ you mean the pocket 3 and the Action 5? Totally different cameras.
I really wanna know what camera you use for filming yourself at home
Sony A7s III with Sony 16-35mm f/2.8 GM. Shot in Slog3, graded with FilmConvert Nitrate.
Which onboard mic do you find to be better quality? Audio is a huge deal to me as well. Bigger than image quality.
Ace Pro 2
@@TamaraGabrielUK thank you! and great video!