Boox Mira, 13.3" E-Ink Monitor: In-Depth Review And Guide
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
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0:00:00 - Intro
0:00:38 - General Overview
0:01:43 - Specifications
0:03:30 - Price
0:04:11 - Design And Build Quality
0:09:52 - The Screen
0:10:45 - The Screen: Reflectivity
0:11:29 - Connectivity
0:13:05 - Picture Modes And Quality
0:21:05 - How I Used It
0:22:44 - Web Browsing
0:25:04 - Word Processor
0:33:56 - Excel Sheets
0:37:16 - Images Rich Content
0:40:48 - Coding
0:46:38 - Video Content
0:51:12 - Platform Support
0:52:41 - Android Support
0:54:47 - MAc (OSX)
0:56:32 - Conclusion: Cons
1:00:24 - Conclusion: Pros
1:06:30 - Conclusion: Summary
Boox Mira is a 13.3" E-Ink screen that costs $800. What is it, how does it work, how does it perform, and is this a product for you? Watch this in-depth review and guide video and see for yourself :)
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Hello! I'm happy owner of Mira. Great review, it's so nice to watch you Voja, you are the best reviewer ever born 🎉
Thank you for this in-depth review. I just bought Mira 13.3 based on this video.
Am very grateful to you voja!
Good job !!! Waiting for your In-depth review for the Mira Pro !
Excellent review! This really helped me.
Exciting tech! Looking forward to future products.
Great review! Waiting the comparison between mira and max lumi as a display. Currently want to buy max lumi 2 mainly for the purpose of wireless e-ink display, there's nothing in the web even comparable to your videos
Outstanding review - truly one of the best I've seen. Thank you for your excellent coverage of the many features of the Boox Mira. Based on this excellent presentation, I'm now subscribing to your channel.
Glad it was helpful! Thank you and welcome to the community!
Best review. Thank you a lot.
Thank you very much for your effort!
Excellent review.
Just a note:
When he says Automatic mode, it is another name for the Normal mode.
There are 4 modes: Normal, Text, Video, Slideshow.
1:00:00 His preference is the Automatic Mode coupled with the highest speed setting.
Amazing reviews
Omg! Been waiting for it!
Just started watching it so really keeping my fingers crossed that it’s an excellent product since I already ordered it 😅
How much you like it?
@@ksojoel i must say that I unfortunately don’t use it much. I had low expectations, in the sense that I wanted to use it only when I’m writing on google doc or microsoft words so my eyes relax a little. But it was still not good enough even for that …
@@lydianecyber6610 Why was it not good enough? My use case is somewhat similar.
Nice review. I'd like to see a comparison review between Dasung and Boox, that will be helpful.
You can turn off cursor blinking in system settings
Abt 54:30
Yes, this is really great idea of usage. For example, you can use that Onyx Mira when travelling, and connecting phone to it, and reading on it, which should way better if you are outside, on the sun...Thanks again for showcasing it!
With that being said, do you think it (below setup) would work?
1 | Charing the phone wirelessly , for example, if it is IPhone - use MagSafe. I guess, for Android - there are "similar" alternatives
2 | And use the Type C port of a "phone" (IPhone or Android) to stream that image to Onyx Mira
Thank you!!
Thanks for the review. Very clear explain about this interest product.
I would like to try this e-ink portable monitor, but the price is very high for me...
Hope this kind of product will be cheaper in the near future!
Cheers
Took your advice on oled monitor, I think it's way better than eink for reading tbh
Good C++ skills !!
beautiful device, I am a dasung paperlike user and this looks way better in design at least.
Great review ! What does it actually look like when it comes to browsing through the email box and writing emails ? Thanks.
28:22 Wow! You can actually see the error-diffusion dithering in action
Please make an in-depth review and guide of Kindle Paperwhite 5.
It's nice that you talk about flickering/flashing issues. Other reviewers just dont pay attention. Any recomendation of what devices doesn't have that issue. Thx in advanced and sry for my english
The device is suitable, and in general, I am satisfied with the monitor, but the product support is fragile, the software is raw. Under Ubuntu 20.04, the drivers are not working, the manufacturer said that I need to configure Udev manually, but I have been waiting for instructions for ten days. Under Windows, the situation is a little better. The software periodically closes itself. In the standard mode, when there are a lot of pictures on the screen, the image trembles very much when the mouse is moved. Sometimes on reboot, the monitor breaks in checkered stripes that disappear only after a few hours when the screen is fully updated. These are all firmware glitches, and the manufacturer is in no hurry to roll out a new one. I repeat, the monitor is cool, but for such a price - absolutely raw software, unfinished. I advise you not to rush into the purchase to save your nerves. Buy only when everyone's bugs finish!
How is the monitor now? Have you used Ubuntu 22.04?
@@jaunie8217 me too!
Did you ever get linux to work?
Was thinking of using eink screen for terminal usage, this seem to work ok enough for that case
Great video, but concerning platform compatibility i would love to see what about > chromebooks with touch support > Linux with touch support > samsung desk mode? Is touch transmitted?
Thank you for the review, was there any mouse lag on the highest speed modes?
Could you do a review for Onyx Boox Mira Pro, please?
Boox does make decent stuff
OK, it has been a year. Thank you Voja!! Thank you community! All the same, I have a list of unanswered questions...
Have we been able to get touch control function to work with MacOS?
Assuming that the LED lighting can be turned off completely, will the screen be viewable in bright sun?
If user opts for the large 25" Pro monitor, what would be the best webcam?
Additionally, Do we anticipate any major shortcomings (small size, low dpi, the above...anything else) will have been addressed with a new hardware or software release? Signs that the pricing will come down? Any competitors aside from Dasung?
...Finally, regarding your My Daily Organizer: Which devices is it compatible with and which do you prefer to use?
Great review. Unfortunately for Boox, in all their current (and previous years') devices, their screen contrast is not as good as the latest Kindles, (.. been there, done that ..) and it doesn't work for me. The characters, icons, images, etc., are just too washed out for my taste, compared to the Kindle (like the latest Oasis for example).
I think you can fix the ratio and resolution in Samsung dex when you connect mira to an android phone.
how does it compare with browsing and video on Boox Note Air (1 and 2)?
Thanks a lot for this review. I was interested in the product but now realise the quality of the text and the text editing experience is simply not acceptable for me. I would expect high resolution and high contrast text fur such a screen.
Is there a way to make your source screen blank to see only the e-ink screen, saving energy?
What is the size only of the display area in cm ? Without counture
Thanks for the review! Have you tried using a music DAW with it? Thinking of getting one for use with Ableton / Logic Pro and wondering if it is usable?
That sounds like a really, really bad time...
Awesome video! I'm sure you covered this somewhere in the video, but do you think this a big enough jump over using a monitor app on the Max Lumi 1? Seeing as they are the same size, I don't see a huge benefit but I'm guessing the screen is even more optimized for latency.
The Mira is not any faster unfortunately. It has some usefull features. The refresh button, the ports, the stronger frontlight, the app etc. but faster it is not. It has most likely the same display.
@@schmolck it's much faster comparing to ONYX Max3. I'm not sure how Max Lumi performs, however, Mira allows you to move mouse cursor quickly and it's matching up the speed you move on screen. That's not possbile for Max3, and I think Max Lumi can't do it well either.
@@DanielKao Maybe in a speed mode, in the high quality mode it's just as slow. The Lumi is actually faster regarding the mouse movement then the Mira, i use them side by side both at the highest quality setting.
Just ordered my Boox Mira! Can't wait. In regards to android usage, if you have a Samsung S phone, you can likely use Dex mode to get a desktop-like interface on your android apps.
How did you shutdown the device? Do you just disconnected from the laptop or is better to do another step?
Hello my guy. I was just watching your review of the mira 13.3 and I'm thinking of buying one. But I have a question I can't seem to find an answer to and was wondering if you could help me. My work does not allow software to be installed, so I have to rely on the "out-of-box" functionality of the monitor. How well does it work with no software installed on the computer?
Do you know if Onyx Boox will continue to produce displays? The 13.3 inch Mira is unavailable in their site and I sent them a DM on Twitter and they replied they have no plans to release another e-ink monitor! I guess they want to focus on readers and tablets but I think monitors are a great offering too, since it can be used with PCs and Macs...
Hello¡¡¡¡ I have a big problem with boox max lumi 2, the application Monitor is not in apps so I can not use boox max lumi 2 as a second monitor. I have already seen your videos of boox max lumi 2 and the application Monitor did not appear in your device too. So.... How can the boox max lumi 2 be use as a second monitor if the application Monitor is not appear?
Great video (as ever!), did you use the Mira for reading Kindle books (or similar)? Is it possible to hold it for extended periods just for reading?
Does it have dark mode? like dark background and white letters.. or does it show darkmode if the laptop is in darkmode?
In my opinion, making eNote as an external monitor could have been done as a software feature even today on devices that have USB C connection plus on-screen refresh/brightness/contrast control. It doesn't make a lot of sense to have an external ePaper monitor at this price point.
Voya thanks so much for this and all your reviews. 1st thing I'm sad on is the problem with darkmode. Why is it not recommended as you said? Will it wreck the monitor, or will it just not be very good? When looking your Safari browser in dark mode @55:50 it seemed it was a bit grey, and some extreme ghosting. Was this what you found?
2nd is it possible to use with a stylus for note taking? Have you ever tried this?
Looks like a great unit otherwise. 🙂
Yeah, the dark mode causes so much ghosting that it becomes borderline unusable, most of e-Ink screens behave like that when they need to exhibit some kind of performance and not have a full screen refresh per screen change.
As for the pen input, it doesn't have a Wacom layer, so it's not EMR pen compatible.
@@MyDeepGuide Hi Voya, just about to buy one of these (I think). Thanks for your help with your videos. 😍👍 But I came across something I don't understand on the Onyx Boox Mira page, there is a table in specificatons that says MacOS "suggested" resolution is 1600 x 1200, and Windows "suggested" is 1400 x 1050. Yet the actual screen res as you mention is 2200 x 1650. Can you explain why they would have a lesser suggested res than the actual display res? Interestingly, they have the identical low "suggested" res for the much bigger 25.3" Mira Pro too. 🤔
I d like to know, i m surprised you didnt raise that question, can you write on the screen, if yes with what e-Pen? Thanx
If you check the first chapter and the specifications, you will see that I have mentioned that it can't.
Does someone know if the Mira monitors work with a Mac Mini M2?
Wow, the idea to use this Onyx Boox Mira display is great. Thanks for this review. I was searching for something like this (review).
Would you still recommend to buy this display now, July 2024? For these requirements: use a second display, for MacOS, primarily for reading text, coding in VSCode, heavily using Terminal (black background and white characters) ? Thanks in advance.
Another question: it seems like this display is "versatile", is it possible to "take notes on it" with stylus ? (would it be efficient/precise + productive/responsive?)
Ou, at 40:52 - "for coding I tend to use Dark Theme, but it is not recommended"
Makes sense. So, for the terminal usage, I would need to set the tab background to the "white" and characters should be "black".
Hello, two questions concerning Windows platform are bugging me and I was hoping that you could have an answer to them:
1. Using a laptop, does Mira extend or duplicate the laptop display?
As a programmer, I would probably require two displays of this size, one for the code, one for previews, one for the console... Which leads me to the second question -
2. Have you tried plugging in multiple miras? If so, does the touch functionality work, is the latency still good?
Another use case would be plugging them into a docking station, which we also expect to work for modern displays...
Your reviews are great, I do thank you for them!
Hi!
1. Orientation is set in Windows under the display panel, so you can set it to portrait or landscape, like any other screen.
2. I only ever had 1 unit on loan as a review unit, so I never had a chance to test two of them, but I see no reason why a number of them would be affected? They are just displays, as long as your GPU can support the number of displays and total pixels drawn, you'll be good, although, I wouldn't feed two screens with power from a laptop, 5hay can damage the battery.
Ultimately, these are just displays, so they'll work like any other display, as long as you feed the the right type of signal and power to keep em happy.
Thanks for watching!
@@MyDeepGuide Thank you very much for answering.
Worth noting perhaps that the software app allows much finer control of the front lights. The hardware controls for this are basically useless for me because even ‘1’ is too bright in most lighting conditions. There are 26 levels available in the app before hardware level 1 is reached.
how do you like it so far? I have the most sensitive eyes to light. Is it worthe the $800+ or would you get something else comparable. Thanks
@@Truehoon I really like it. As far as I’m aware there is nothing else comparable in the market yet.
Thank you!
I am using Mira monitor on a daily basis.
I also have Android 11 but nothing happened after connecting it to Mira (via supplied USB-C cable).
How did you set up you smartphone so that it works fine for you ?
Nothing at all. I simply plugged it in and it worked. Have you tried supplying it with external power? Maybe your device can't supply enough power to the screen.
@@MyDeepGuide Thank You for answering.
Google Pixel 4 should have enough power.
Nevertheless, I tried with external power but without any success :(
I was wondering what USB settings you are using on your smartphone - meaning: File Transfer / USB Tethering / Midi / PTP ?
I found out what was causing the problem : Google Pixel doesn't support "Desktop Mode".
Enabling "Force desktop mode" in "Developer options" does nothing.
Next time, I will think twice before buying Google products !
What I've read from the other threads is that there has been observed some "flickering issue when connecting to the MacBook M1, for example" ? Is it?
Correct me, if I am wrong, the flickering is related/specific to the displaying the images/videos content. But, for example, if using Terminal application, and using text mode or other, the flickering should not be there, if specifically displaying the terminal on Onyx Mira?
Thanks for the videos, they are very interesting. I need a device to watch videos on youtube and they are auditory videos I don't need to see landscapes or colors they are explanatory videos and to search for information and read articles on google. Can someone advise me whether to buy this device and use it with the tablet and the cable or buy the lumi 2 directly? I would also use it to send emails and to read in bed. Thanks.
Hello, I just received it, and realized I need an usb-C - USB cable for my computer... does any Usb-C/USB cable works ?
Same question if someone tested it with mini USB to USB C cable.... (old smartphone, wanted to test with it)
You have to make sure that the cable supports both data transfer and video signal, as there are cables that support only charging, or only charging and limited data transfer, and neither of those will give you a video signal.
Hello , I like your video. Please an info: is it compatible with ANY android phone? thanks if you can reply quickly
Hello. I don't know if it will work with any Android phone as there are far too many different types and there is no way to know that. I have tried with 3 different Android devices, and it worked fine, but that is not a guarantee that it will work with any Android phone.
@@MyDeepGuide @My Deep Guide thank you for your quick reply and congrats on a very interesting review. Well, I read on the site that only a bunch of smartphones were compatible but with your experiment I should assume it should work with recent phones! I was a yotaphone user, searching to buy a new smartphone, there is hardly something interesting, and so I'm looking for an alternative. So with a smartphone with a good camera, I could ditch the e-ink display wish I had. Have a nice day
There's a lot of ghosting...Maybe it's amplified by YT compression and watching this video on a 48" TV but this is a bit worrying
Hey, I have a quick question.
I have a Boox Mira, I saw the specifications, and it seems it is a multi-touch device.
However, I can't use that functionality when I use it on Mac OS X.
Do you know how I could enable it?
That will only work on Type C connection. If you're connecting over HDMI it will only be a display.
@@VishnuVardhanS Thank you for your response. However, this is not correct, as I am using a Type-C connection and it still doesn't work. It seems to be a compatibility issue with multitouch on Mac OS X. Currently, only single touch is functioning. Can someone else confirm if they were able to set up multitouch on Mac OS X?
I can't seem to use the touchscreen function. Why is that? How do I do that?
Touch functionality is transferred via the USB cable, so usb connection must be established with your device. HDMI can't transfer touch information.
@@MyDeepGuide Thanks. Looks like older models of laptops without type-c ports don't support this function.
It doesn't work well with Mac with Apple Silicon. I'm on MBP 14" M1 Pro and the flickering problem is really annoying. All the greyish area (which's a lot) is flickering. This problem doesn't occur with Intel-based Mac or PC, I tested. Boox had released an update on August 2021 trying to address this problem but I didn't see any improvements, to be honest.
Thank you for the update on the newer platforms. If there isn't a way to force the source platform to display pure white, yeah, that will degrade the image quality by quite a margine. Have you tried increasing the whiteness to tuen the gray into white? Is it possible, or will it just explode the rest of the constant too much?
@@MyDeepGuide well, it's flickering on "all" of the grey areas which are currently displaying on the screen, whenever you're moving a cursor, or there's something (even it's just a little) animated on the screen. On PC or Intel-based Mac, the grey area will be flickering specifically where or around the cursor, not the whole screen. Boox seemed to be aware of this issue so they released the v1 firmware addressing on the 'jitter problem on Mac with M1 chip' and introduced "Anti-shake Automatically" option. But I don't think that helps much.
Turning the grey areas into black, as in Text Mode, or exploding them into white does getting rid of the problem as it's only specific to shades of grey - but, well, you can only work with Text only in this kind of settings. The Video Mode doesn't have that flickering problem too, but the overall resolution is really degraded.
@@panin.s Hello, does this happen using hdmi (with hdmi adapter connected to MAC) Or just usb-c cable direct connection? Also in all screen modes and resolutions (besides b&w text mode)? Any chance you could make a video to show the issue? I'm considering this display but the issue could be a dealbreaker if it is unpleasant to watch. I don't care about videos, rather typing various things and browsing web (rather slow content), but the black and white text mode may not be suitable fix for me...
@@yoba1450 It also happens on HDMI connection. The video mode is the only one that's working fine, however, this mode is only good for video, all the texts are barely readable. I even tried casting a screen from my Mac to dongles (Airplay, Chromecast) connected with Mira via HDMI but the flickering is still there.
My recommendation is that, for Mac M1 users, you cannot use Boox Mira as your main screen involving shuffling with various Apps, because there’s a high chance you’ll be annoyed with the flickering on Apps with dark colors. BUT, if your intention is to use Boox Mira for a specific app, it might works, because you can adjust the App’s UI (couple with settings on Mira) to wash out all the dark colors as much as possible to avoid flickering.
Here’re the videos demonstrating the flickering issue, https -> THTH dot TO / boox-mira
@@panin.s Thanks a lot for the description and videos. This is unfortunately not really acceptable for me for the money. I have to switch between various apps during my work. It's really mind boggling that the same happens via dongles too, they should have the same output for any wireless source 🤔
Can any of the other Boox devices such as the Tab Ultra or Lumi be used as a connected e-ink monitor? I suppose not...
Lumi 1 yes, as it has a mini HDMI port (if I recall correctly), all other devices can be used as wireless monitors, if you use an appropriate app, such as SpaceDesk or Super Monitor.
@@MyDeepGuide Oh wow, thank you! Because of eye strain I had been thinking of getting an e-ink monitor but they are very expensive. But if a 13 inch Boox Tab X or Lumi tablet can do the job as well, then the propodition becomes more palatable.
I would love to see you do a video on the possibilities.
(Thanks to your video, we ended up getting a Tab Utra C for my kids)
This is covered in in-depth reviews of the respective devices, so you can already see that in various videos on my channel, including comparing the Drasung, Mira, and Lumi side to side :)
@@MyDeepGuide Thank you very much. That's brilliant. Going to look at those videos now.
Purchased for use at work, unfortunately the mira software is not windows certified/trusted and is blocked by IT, have written to boox but no reply yet. kindly highlight that in your future reviews. Thank you.
If you can choose where to install the software, try install in "users" directory. Normally this is less restricted.
@@ketmunojenfrin583 as soon as I double click windows restriction box comes up, so no joy, have emailed boox support ages ago but no response.
Do you know is Mira works with Lenovo Thinkpad T-series, which have display port, not HDMI ?
With a simple adapter cable, the ThinkPad display ports put out HDMI.
@@thewheelieguy Thank you for the reply. I bought Mira before one week. It is very good product, but for limitation useage - mainly reading and typing text. There is ghostiong, but it is not annoying.
... in android phone or tablet
No, but some displays support the function of retaining the last image when you press their power button. So effectively they turn off, and keep the last image displayed, even when disconnected.
reviews for greyscale displays are easier to understand if presented in a greyscale video
Or you could desaturate your display if that's your specific preference.
test with smartphone screen off - press power button
Don’t buy this guys.
It works for MacOS with Intel fine but it does not mirror my iPad/iPhone as they had advertised on their website.
Yes, I was using the original Apple Lightning AV adapter and connected USB C as additional power, etc. all kinds of permutation nothing happens similar to someone else in this comments section saying he can’t connect his Android.
I thought this thing would have many practical uses but no. The price is now glaringly steep for my use case.
Only buy it if you’re using it for MacOS running Intel chip.
Edit:
I got it to work with iPhone / iPad. Use the cables they provided. It is a bit tricky here. You need to ensure the iOS device is powered up first before connecting the device otherwise it wont mirror. What I mean is connect the Boox to a dedicated power source first via USB-C. Then iPhone/iPad has to make use of the HDMI cable and a third party adapter.
Thanks for this. I have a 2013 MacBook. What cable would I need to get in order to connect to the Mira?
@@darellmoodley2141 The Boox come with a HDMI-to-mini-HDMI cable. The mini end connects to Boox and the standard goes to the Mac.
The Boox also comes with USB-C-to USB-C cable that could be used as an alternative connection method.
Just want to correct my statement.
I could now use the Boox with iPhone/iPad.
Great setup just cumbersome with the wires. You could open PDFs and read them on the Boox.
You could just end up with a phone and Boox. Connect a wireless keyboard and mouse to your phone to have that perfect setup
What a lie, that supplied cable is not supplied to normal clients, you need to buy a specific fast transfer cable your self, normal usb c cable dont work to transfer and use the onyx mira 13"3
man you talk a lot. the first 15 minutes could have been 45 seconds.
Good job at enriching our lives with this bit of info, we are eternally grateful! 🌞