Another option: “Pigsy does something stupid” this could be used to refer to Pigsy being stupid, provoking the enemy, run away, lie, falling asleep, or any of the stuff we’ve seen him do.
That was Red's greatest meme, tbh. If only OSP would bring that back for a bit. Blue has so many opportunities to use that one in history and Red could still make good with it.
Even Monkey himself uses that trick constantly, he's about 50/50 on "I'm strong enough to throw a mountain at you" and "Every god you have ever prayed to for guidance or protection has met me and is absolutely terrified of me", Intimidation is a powerful tool even if you're not bluffing at all
@@orangeinkius7257 There's a subtle but important difference between "Listen to a list of gods that are afraid of me!" and "I know this monkey, he'll tell you a list of gods that are afraid of _him."_
Journey to the West random encounter generator: "Huge ass body of water", "Huge ass mountain", "Suspicious village", "Suspicious stranger", "Party member throwing a tantrum over trivial matter".
Maybe a trip to Cluck N' Bell on the way will help him feel better. He can bring Big Smoke with them! XD I can see their next mission now: "All you had to do was to get on the damn mountain, Monkey!"
@@loneronin6813 considering the biggest pop cultural icon based on Sun Wukong is Goku... ...he'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
@@SavageGreywolf Yeah that makes much more sense to use Goku and you did so brilliantly lol XD I couldn't remember the quotes from San Andreas hardly at all in regards to the wording of it, as you can no doubt tell, so I winged it :P
Surprising how many pets go that route. You'd think Heaven would figure that out at some point. "Missing pet? It probably turned into a demon and went to eat Tripitaka. You should invest in a leash or something."
You know, rewatching the series, it’s kinda funny and maybe purposeful that Sun is getting more mature as the journey continues. In Sun’s origin part of the story he was so irresponsible and wild but now he’s more of an underpaid babysitter.
I love rewatching this series and seeing that one of the first things he did on the journey was kill a whole bandit group then let Tripitaka sleep while a monetary burned down because he couldn't be bothered. So much growth
"Literally your whole legacy is you being impulsive and dodging responsibilities!" "Mmm-that's where you're wrong!" "That time you ate all the heavenly peaches you were meant to guard?" "That was a long time ago." "When you kept annoying everyone in the Celestial Realm?" "That's a matter of opinion." "The time you picked a fight with BUDDHA-" I'm sorry but I had to; I love that conversation and this comment reminded me of it
@@StarPichu12 Yeah, but he also has character flaws. The most massive one being how ridiculously impulsive he is, although that stands to reason seeing as he’s a monkey. Mary Sues don’t have ‘character’ flaws, in story; but that in itself constitutes a massive writing flaw. They’re absolutely perfect and can do no wrong, and any conflict they’re involved in is never their fault, because that’s how people like to imagine life. Sun Wukong may end almost every conflict with his OP nature, but he also starts his fair share of conflicts by being an impulsive dumbass.
@@StarPichu12 lemme put my point this way. Solves all the problems = overpowered Never causes any of the problems (and likely also solves them) = Mary Sue because Mary Sues are what the author wants to be, even if it’s not a straight up self insert; they may have flaws (though they probably won’t be acknowledged), because the author doesn’t even notice writing them in, but nothing that happens to them is ever their fault. It’s an enticing fantasy, not having to take responsibility for anything. For that reason, Mary Sues pretty much never experience character growth. Being overpowered is a power fantasy, which is somewhat different.
@@StarPichu12 A mary Sue implies they have no need for character growth. IIRC this entire story is wukong getting character development because he was literally a menace to everyone due to him being insanely powerful.
The entire Journey to the West is can basically be summed up as Wukong learning to get along with Tripitaka Sandy learning not to listen to Pigsy And Pigsy learning how to become not useless. XD.
@@Birthday888 If only more modern stories had character arcs like that. By which I mostly mean "significant, related to the core of the story, and not just for hero #1".
Yeah. I like how he knows when to get his head in the game. Monkey goofing around. Someone kidnaps/threatens his buddies. Monkey takes kid gloves off. Demon: "I didn't know you wear gloves." Monkey: "Most people don't find out 'til it's too late."
Someone with adhd who tries his best to get things done but is forever cursed by his inability to focus on a single thing, while also being the only capably person of the group
I like how Sun Wukongs reputation is catching up to his ego at this point. When the story began he wanted to be called Great Sage Over Heaven and thought he deserved the highest station in the celestial order. Fast forward five hundred years plus eight more, and everyone is taking him just as seriously as he wanted them to, the heavenly court answers his calls for aid and mountain spirits are acting fearfully respectful towards him. And by now he's developed enough to actually prove he IS kind of superior to them after all by being able to keep a level head on his shoulders when things don't go their way.
“And by now he’s developed enough to actually prove he IS kind of superior to them after all” *Smash cut to 508 years ago when he beat the shit out of all of heaven and the dragon kings and then went back home where all of heaven’s legions and heroes showed up at his doorstep only to get pimp slapped handily since fighting them wasn’t even that fun anymore and wukong just wanted to chill in his waterfall*
@@frenato00 technically it was never established whether they were dangerous. It was the bright light that startled heaven. No one ever really actually explains if it is a power, or if it was a side-effect of being born. Monkey never hurt anyone with it, nor has he used it more than once.
@@GlalGamingPanda Being a dragon really isn't indicative of power in Chinese mythology - keep in mind that the Dragon Kings of the Four Seas (the most powerful dragons, one of which is the horse's dad) were scared shitless by a single monkey. Honestly White Dragon is such a tiny blip on the journey power scale he might as well be a horse. Buddha does reward him at the end of the journey though!
Clearly Pigsy has never heard of the Kane’s or their shenanigans with Egyptian gods and said magic circles. (The books I’m referencing here are the Kane Chronicles)
I just love the idea of the Gods having minor figures and even pets around them That end up somehow turning into Power Hungry Demons when they enter the real world
There are no need for restrain really. Because of Pigsy's flaws he ended up in a lot of trouble and fell easily for Wukong's many pranks, so he ended up being a source of entertainment/a clown for the group.
On one hand, he’s probably also immortal On the other hand, I can see Sun Wukong being like “I got immortality to spare, I can somehow give up one of mine to give up yours”
He acts like he hasn't been in this exact same situation before. Monkey may be a loose cannon but he is actually right most of the time and Trip never learns.
“don’t follow the trail of blood into the basement.” Boy, if that didn't work wonders in my, and my friends campaign. I mean, the town got screwed, but it was a shit hole anyway.
Monkey: "Don't leave the circle, it'll keep you safe." Pigsy: "Hey guys! Let's leave the circle!" Everyone: "Okay!" Monkey: "WHAT PART ABOUT 'DON'T LEAVE THE CIRCLE' WAS UNCLEAR?!!"
“I couldn’t steal PEACHES on the clock without the Jade emperor ordering my execution! How do these guys keeping getting away with this!?” Probably a lot of incompetence on the Jade emperors part
And yes, one of the major points of Journey to the West is to make a parody of incompetent government in the form of heavenly court and the wish for all peaceful far away world in the form of Western sky/Nirvana (the destination of the journey).
I think the third slice is "Demon-infested town." Maybe it's exclusively demons, maybe it's controlled by demons, maybe demons are attacking, but it's a town and you're dealing with demons.
Fun fact: combination of Chinese characters for “mountain” (山 - "shan") and "water" (水 - "shui") literally means "landscape" ("山水" - "shanshui"). So yeah, it is pretty much mountains and rivers all the way.
Fun fact 1: Kuanyin is pissed not at her pet goldfish missing, but for some reason that her enlightenment speech didn't enlighten it but instead turned it into a demon (maybe its too boring) Fun fact 2: Buddha did not directly say Lao tsu because Lao tsu is the head of all Taoists, you could say the only person that rivals in power with the buddha, so they are kinda rivals in a sense (religious beliefs rivals ya know)
I am... Not entirely sure they are depicted as equal in power in this story. Given, y'know, their respective track records dealing with Enormous Fuck You Monkey Demon Gods That Can Kill Dragons.
Isn''t that literally the whole point? The undisciplined human mind (in the form of Sun Wukong) becoming constrained and directed through spiritual power (in the form of a magic headache spell) wielded by the Superego/forebrain/maybe I wanna say Yang(?) (in the form of Tripataka). Of course he's becoming self-aware, that has to be part of growing towards enlightenment, yeah?
@@guggelguggel7491 I haven't looked it up at all, I'm just going off of the idea that Monkey's symbolism is incredibly blatant, with that in mind, the magic seal being religion or spirituality holding the power to rebuke and restrain the otherwise feral and uncivilized psyche of the unenlightened mind is equally apparent. From that, what Tripataka represents can only be the answer to the question "what aspect of human psychology is it that is empowered by spirituality to control the base aspects of psychology". The reason why I think Tripataka must represent some aspect of the human mind/spirit/humanity in general is that everyone else does. Red previously stated in iirc episode 1 (I binged the whole series recently) that the horse represents human will, so if the horse is human will, the pig is gluttonous hedonism, Monkey is the undisciplined and atavistic base drives, so that leaves Tripataka as the most spiritual and high-minded parts of the human psyche. But not a totally enlightened being in himself, because enlightenment is all about balance. You can't represent only a part of what a person is and also be a truly complete and spiritually fulfilled person in and of yourself. The other point I'd like to point out is how Monkey keeps recognizing dangers that Tripataka fails to. Which I find extremely interesting and incredibly important, because enlightenment is not pure Superego. Tripataka is virtuous, but he is not the end point of this journey, and Monkey learning and growing to become more like Tripataka is not a one-way street. There is value in those base instincts that Monkey is so in touch with. Not just combat ability, but as an aspect of being a complete person. If Tripataka were meant to represent someone who already has enlightenment, then the message doesn't make sense to me. It seems clear in the story that Tripataka is also in need of growth, and in need of life lessons. Why would he be going on this journey if the thing he represents were the endpoint of the journey? And just as an aside, I have no idea how to phrase this without resorting to Freudian terminology. It fits incredibly well, and it blows my mind that it could line up so perfectly across thousands of years and totally different cultures. I'm sure the ancient Chinese had their own terminology, which I'm only assuming at an educated guess probably related to Yin and Yang somehow, but to my Eurocentric brain, I look at this and all I'm seeing is Id and Superego. And of course, all this is just my own interpretation. I haven't even read the original story, let alone researched it at all. I could be off-base on this. It's even possible that I am misunderstanding what the phrase "pure enlightened heart" is meant to imply. I can agree with the "pure" part at least. If someone more familiar with Buddhist/Taoist/Confucian spirituality tells me that I just don't understand what "enlightened" means, then I guess maybe I do agree with that description and what I'm arguing over is just me not understanding the exact terminology.
So basically every arc since they started the journey is -Gang shows up to a village -Big demon is in village -Pigsy does some stupid shit -Tripitaka gets captured -Monkey fights demon -Monkey goes to heaven and talks to the gods -Random god who is related to demon comes down and instantly defeats demon -Tripitaka is rescued and they continue the journey (Optional, Sandy does something)
"What took you so long bringing these scriptures back?" "Well, it was a rough journey, we had to go over all those mountains, cross all those rivers, fight all those demons..." "Wait, you mean you didn't just take the Silk Road?" "The what road?"
Tripitaka: It's been 8 years since this started, I just wanna go home... Sun, stuck under a mountain for 500 years: OH BOO HOO, POOR THING. ALLOW ME TO CRY TEARS AT YOUR SUFFERING. Tripitaka: You're quintuple immortal, you terrify basically everyone, you beat the shit out of the entire army of Heaven and several of the most powerful beings in existence are your buddies; I'm constantly in danger of being eaten for something I have no control over. Who's got it worse again? Sun: Ok yes fair enough but also s h u t
any Undertale character: *-laughs in was (possibly) stuck under a mountain for like 1,000 years-* Aang from Avatar: *-laughs in stuck in ice for years and years-* (I forget the amount of time*
Yeah, like the other commenter said, it's because they are going at Tripitaka's pace. It's also an example of the journey being what causes the needed character development, and what they go through on the way to their destination is what really matters. Just look at Monkey this episode, he's already improved a lot as a person and has become more aware of his flaws, only because of all the trials they have gone through on the journey itself. It is really funny though that it took Monkey about 5 minutes to get to the Buddha.
@@ilikethecokev2 Also maybe some Force style "evil gets power faster but it's a shortcut, so it doesn't help the individuals outside of raw power" type shenanigans.
@@Farrie13 Even if Flower Fruit Mountain, Master Subodhi's place, and Five Phases Mountain (the only places on Earth that he's ever really lingered as far as I know) are too temperate for snow, he did travel for a decade to find Master Subodhi, and he's been traveling for a few years with Tripitaka already, so he's probably found snowy places before. Might still be a rare sight for him.
Nobody tell Pigsy (and red) but the journey to the west actually lasts 14 YEARS LONG. But at the end of it they all end up becoming pretty OP (yes even pigsy)
@@mxn1948 It's like the Foot Clan from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. If they're actual people, go easy on them. But if they're robots, GO FRIGGIN' NUTS!
@@noahkarpinski1824 Simple version: Some species of shrimp are able to see a much wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum than us humans. So transforming into a shrimp would basically allow you to suddenly see colors we literally can't even imagine.
I laughed my ass off so hard at the fact Monkey literally drew a circle around them knowing exactly what they were gonna do as soon as he left that a family member came upstairs to check on me.
thats essentially what he does on this trip. one of the theories is that he knows they are heavenly animals plus the monk needs to come into danger to complete his quest , and thats why he seems weaker on the trip than when he fought heaven, hes holding back because he doesnt actually want to killed the god's pets and he can just go ask around for the real owner to come collect their pet. like the whole water thing, the reason given why hes weak in water is because he has to keep up a anti-water spell with one hand, so hes literally fighting with one hand tied any time hes in water, but like na zha, he has a massive 3 headed war form, and more importantly, it comes with 6 arms, allowing him to keep up extra spells making him literally invulnerable to all attacks in nearly all environments, not to mention even unarmed he can one punch mountains out of existent, so losing a staff isn't going to stop him really.
I'm almost in awe of how absolutely correct this is and mad at myself for not making that connection sooner. GM pitches a story about bringing his GM-NPC, a Buddhist monk named Tripataka, to India. The first player runs a super immortal Monkey with a billion powers, the second runs a dumb pig man that uses a rake as his main weapon. The GM has no choice but to meet madness with madness.
It’s amazing how the author managed to make monkey so overpowered but not a mary sue since his enemies challenge him in ways that he can’t easily solve. Even though he’s really powerful, he very rarely uses brute force to solve the problems, often preferring to find creative solutions and getting allies to help him out.
Admittedly 50% of all of his problems are solved by flying to Guan Yin or the Buddha and complain. Frankly, those two should just permanently join the fellowship so Monkey can save on airfare expenses.
It’s amazing how JttW has one of the most over powered characters ever conceived but is usually facing a river demon, evenly matched, or is given a hard time in these chosen examples. Basically the opposite of a over powered character. Also gives the point of no matter how strong one is, wit and strategy can win mostly any fight
and monkey is just that one person who figured out how to break the system, made a really broken character out of it, and now the gm is disregarding the rulebook in order to stop him from breaking the entire campaign
I remember first seeing this series when I was a scrub getting my master’s degree. Now I am married, got a job and have a 9 month old kid, and praise the Buddha I saw this pop into my feed today. The nostalgia and joy is overwhelming. And I hope to see this series conclude before my death 50 years from now. Please keep up the good work. Best wishes from China.
“But Goldfish already knows 4 moves! Should it forget one?” > Yes “Congratulations! Goldfish learned CRIMES and forgot GUAN YIN IS A BADASS DON’T MESS WITH HER DEAR BUDDHA, DID YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM RED BOY!!”
I kinda wanna know if the part where Monk gets mad at Monkey (again) and throws him out while Monkey sits in the woods crying and writing poetry has happened yet. If it has i'm shocked Red didn't cover it since it's hysterical, if not then i look forward to seeing that animated ^^
If you don’t mind me asking - what version did you read or would recommend of JTTW?? I want to get it myself but have found that there a bunch of different versions so I wanna know what the best or most common are
Conclusion, Sun’s character development is holding on strong, Pigsy got his ass handed to him by a goldfish, and there is now a very small wheel that is spun to determine random encounters for the group like a game of dnd. Spoiler alert: most of them involve a form of demon.
Let's be honest, that IS the earliest D&D group. Sun Wukong is (pardon the pun)the Skill Monkey-Rogue/Fighter Multiclass, Tripitaka is a Monk/Cleric with the Way of Pacifist, Pigsy is obviously a Bard, Sandy is the groups Warlock(rather competent but his power has pitiful uses) and the Dragon-Horse is obviously a Druid, who has way to much fun staying in Wildshape to actually do something useful
5:05 Monkey: runs into the bamboo grove and sees her looking like she was awake for 3-days straight. Me: Laughing so hard at Monkey’s look of extreme surprise and awkwardness right now.🤣
Honestly I’d be pretty surprised to if I was one of guan yin’s worshippers or sun himself, seeing her as disheveled as she is when she’s supposedly a compassionate god with rather little emotions other than that, and she’s so composed and all that crap. But yeah it was kinda funny seeing her look like someone who woke up with a migraine or a hangover
From what I've learned binge watching this series I know at least 3 things must happen. 1. A mountain or river must always appear in the path of our heroes. 2. Demons are behind everything. 3. Tripitaka must always, ALWAYS get kidnapped.
pretty sure mountains and rivers are allegories for challenges/problems. And the super warriors (Sun, sandy and pigsy) are the various facets of the human psyche. Sun wukong being the raw human mind (iirc) being OP and solving everything when he sets out for it, makes for an interesting dynamic.
"Next time on Journey to the West..." See you all in a decade folks! Jokes aside, I can only imagine how time-consuming this kind of video can be for all involved, especially when you're also juggling work on other more frequently updated series of videos in a timely manner in addition to just life in general. I greatly appreciate the work and passion that goes into these and thank you Red and Blue for all that you do. This video was a wonderful addition to this joyous holiday! :D Merry Christmas to you both or whichever equivalent holiday you find most fitting :)
@@Mazaroth HAHAHA I know that kind of pain given I'm a huge Berserk fan XD I just hope both of them finish their respective magnum opuses at some point. In both cases I don't really mind the wait as long as I get to read/see them in my lifetime. I'm currently 28, so I've (hopefully) got time lol
@@loneronin6813 I'm turning 29 soon and i've been a struggler for the past 10 of those years, i recently re-read berserk in a marathon and realised that i had just consumed 30 years of one mans life's work in 30 hours.
@@Mazaroth Still, I think that's a thirty hours well spent when it comes to creative works. Berserk is really something special and to be honest, I consider it one of my most favorite written works, and I don't mean just among manga or comics.
The wheel has three options; river, mountain, and the tiniest sliver labeled “Monkey Has a Nice Day”
What about village and palace?
@@maximaldinotrap Add the prefixes "demon", "tyranically ruled" or "tyranically ruled by demons"
Monkey pulls an alucard and "goes for a walk"
Another option: “Pigsy does something stupid” this could be used to refer to Pigsy being stupid, provoking the enemy, run away, lie, falling asleep, or any of the stuff we’ve seen him do.
It looks like silver, but it's actually a magnet. It's the same polarity as the arrow.
“KUAN YIN! THERE’S A DEMON THAT KIDNAPPED TRIPATAKA!”
“So *THAT’S* where my goldfish went!”
*Guan/Kuan Yin, but yes.
@@bobjones2959 fixed!
@@Grim_Sister still wrong. Check again.
This: Comes out on Christmas
Me: TRULY A VICTORY FOR THE FORCES OF JUSTICE!
Justice has finally been served!
The timing was crucial
That was Red's greatest meme, tbh. If only OSP would bring that back for a bit. Blue has so many opportunities to use that one in history and Red could still make good with it.
@@ashildrdorchadon3258 yeah especially with all of blues conquesting videos
As someone from the forces of evil. this ain't just your victory, we like this stuf too
i love that pigsy's most threatening combat technique is saying he knows monkey.
Using your connections wisely
I can see exactly why Akira Toriyama made him into Oolong in Dragonball.
He must be related to Sakura
Even Monkey himself uses that trick constantly, he's about 50/50 on "I'm strong enough to throw a mountain at you" and "Every god you have ever prayed to for guidance or protection has met me and is absolutely terrified of me", Intimidation is a powerful tool even if you're not bluffing at all
@@orangeinkius7257 There's a subtle but important difference between "Listen to a list of gods that are afraid of me!" and "I know this monkey, he'll tell you a list of gods that are afraid of _him."_
The goldfish: "I am no longer baby, I want power"
Congratulations! Goldfish has evolved into HUGE MEGA DEMON WITH GWEEN RING
Lol
Mother i crave violence
Have you seen a goldfish with a gun
Vergil but fish
Journey to the West random encounter generator: "Huge ass body of water", "Huge ass mountain", "Suspicious village", "Suspicious stranger", "Party member throwing a tantrum over trivial matter".
This made me actually want a Journey to the West tabletop game
And pets turning into demons
@@flowerheit4512 thats just called having a lazy dm
You may as well change “Party member” to Pigsy at this point, it’s almost _always_ him.
You forgot the "suspicious village on a huge ass mountain with a body of water."
Tripitaka: It’s been 8 years I want to go hooooome
Monkey: *laughs in 500 years under a mountain
He should probably have remarked how unvirtuous it is for a monk to be so impatient.
And the funny thing is, Monkey is STILL kind of impatient even after being trapped under a mountain for 5 centuries.
@@spencermanning9994 After waiting for so long, I wouldn't want to wait for anything ever again.
@@journey9641 SAME!
Tripitaka: “Yeah, but you’re immortal. 500 years is like a weekend to you.”
"GOLDFISH learned CRIMES!"
And
"ARRESTED FOR FISH CRIMES AND ALSO MURDER"
Both have wonderful energy
And beautifully done :D
I want this merch
What are the odds that the goldfish and Loki are one and the same? I’m just saying, we never saw them in the same place at the same time….
The way Guanyin is just deadpanning her pet while holding him by his tail! 🤣
Hmm you know if think about it, this must have also inspired Skyrim based on 5r number of times I was arrested for fish murder.
“...y’know, that strategy they’ve tried twice that has literally _never_ worked.”
Holy shit they ARE a DnD party
Why let something as negligible as impracticality get in the way of a perfectly good idea.
Seriously it's basically canon at this point lol
But they're all monks... and one peace cleric, who the DM gives no XP to, because he's such a wuss.
@@samcreed9951 And sandy and pigsy are like lvl 20 and wu kong is at least lvl 30. Also the dm doesnt understand plot progression.
@@NA-AN so does that make all their foes lvl 25 but with a certain gimmick so they can survive the lvl 30 monkey king?
Mountains and rivers: exist
Tripitaka: *Ah shi, here we go again*
Maybe a trip to Cluck N' Bell on the way will help him feel better. He can bring Big Smoke with them! XD I can see their next mission now: "All you had to do was to get on the damn mountain, Monkey!"
@@loneronin6813 considering the biggest pop cultural icon based on Sun Wukong is Goku...
...he'll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.
@@SavageGreywolf Yeah that makes much more sense to use Goku and you did so brilliantly lol XD I couldn't remember the quotes from San Andreas hardly at all in regards to the wording of it, as you can no doubt tell, so I winged it :P
Moral of the story: Don't let your pets become evil Tripitaka eating demons
Give this guy a medal
Lmaooo
True
Surprising how many pets go that route. You'd think Heaven would figure that out at some point. "Missing pet? It probably turned into a demon and went to eat Tripitaka. You should invest in a leash or something."
Instructions unclear, my cat has read the art of war, and officially become a great demon general..... next step consume the flesh of Tripitaka.
You know, rewatching the series, it’s kinda funny and maybe purposeful that Sun is getting more mature as the journey continues. In Sun’s origin part of the story he was so irresponsible and wild but now he’s more of an underpaid babysitter.
For our Monk Lad and Pigsy
But Sandy is the most Mature
I love rewatching this series and seeing that one of the first things he did on the journey was kill a whole bandit group then let Tripitaka sleep while a monetary burned down because he couldn't be bothered. So much growth
Monkey is getting paid?!
@@Pikepaw Well, he's getting paid with his freedom... but that's probably not even enough at this point.
"Literally your whole legacy is you being impulsive and dodging responsibilities!"
"Mmm-that's where you're wrong!"
"That time you ate all the heavenly peaches you were meant to guard?"
"That was a long time ago."
"When you kept annoying everyone in the Celestial Realm?"
"That's a matter of opinion."
"The time you picked a fight with BUDDHA-"
I'm sorry but I had to; I love that conversation and this comment reminded me of it
I love how monkey is the main character and the story doesn’t even pretend it’s Tripitaka
And even though he is technically a mary sue Wukong still has character growth.
@@StarPichu12 nah Sun is overpowered not a Mary Sue - there is a bit of a difference
@@StarPichu12 Yeah, but he also has character flaws. The most massive one being how ridiculously impulsive he is, although that stands to reason seeing as he’s a monkey. Mary Sues don’t have ‘character’ flaws, in story; but that in itself constitutes a massive writing flaw. They’re absolutely perfect and can do no wrong, and any conflict they’re involved in is never their fault, because that’s how people like to imagine life. Sun Wukong may end almost every conflict with his OP nature, but he also starts his fair share of conflicts by being an impulsive dumbass.
@@StarPichu12 lemme put my point this way.
Solves all the problems = overpowered
Never causes any of the problems (and likely also solves them) = Mary Sue
because Mary Sues are what the author wants to be, even if it’s not a straight up self insert; they may have flaws (though they probably won’t be acknowledged), because the author doesn’t even notice writing them in, but nothing that happens to them is ever their fault. It’s an enticing fantasy, not having to take responsibility for anything. For that reason, Mary Sues pretty much never experience character growth. Being overpowered is a power fantasy, which is somewhat different.
@@StarPichu12 A mary Sue implies they have no need for character growth. IIRC this entire story is wukong getting character development because he was literally a menace to everyone due to him being insanely powerful.
This episode is basically “Monkey slowly becoming self-aware of him and his situation and is not pleased.”
Yeah, I think that's possibly the point of this. It's not just a trip to get the Scriptures, it's Son Wukong's own journey to be a better person.
Monkey: “Oh god, is this....self-reflection?! Gross!”
He's having character development!
The entire Journey to the West is can basically be summed up as
Wukong learning to get along with Tripitaka
Sandy learning not to listen to Pigsy
And Pigsy learning how to become not useless. XD.
@@Birthday888 If only more modern stories had character arcs like that. By which I mostly mean "significant, related to the core of the story, and not just for hero #1".
My favorite thing about Monkey is that he is simultaneously the most irresponsible and most reliable character so far.
My preferred state of being
Yeah. I like how he knows when to get his head in the game.
Monkey goofing around.
Someone kidnaps/threatens his buddies.
Monkey takes kid gloves off.
Demon: "I didn't know you wear gloves."
Monkey: "Most people don't find out 'til it's too late."
@@themostdangerousnoodle My default state of being is confuzlment (confusion)
Someone with adhd who tries his best to get things done but is forever cursed by his inability to focus on a single thing, while also being the only capably person of the group
@@themushroominside6540 This is me in a nutshell
I love how Tripitaka is so damsel-ed to the point of becoming a mcguffin. It's just so funny to me that he's supposed to be the protagonist lol.
In the mcguffin trope talk red says that you have to be impressively useless to be sentient AND a mcguffin
The real life counterpart was a Badass tho
@@marisstaff7019 That's Tripitaka to a tee
@@quinnholloway5400 What he do irl?
@@concept5631 I forgot honestly :(
I like how Sun Wukongs reputation is catching up to his ego at this point. When the story began he wanted to be called Great Sage Over Heaven and thought he deserved the highest station in the celestial order. Fast forward five hundred years plus eight more, and everyone is taking him just as seriously as he wanted them to, the heavenly court answers his calls for aid and mountain spirits are acting fearfully respectful towards him. And by now he's developed enough to actually prove he IS kind of superior to them after all by being able to keep a level head on his shoulders when things don't go their way.
Unfortunately he got nerfed
“And by now he’s developed enough to actually prove he IS kind of superior to them after all”
*Smash cut to 508 years ago when he beat the shit out of all of heaven and the dragon kings and then went back home where all of heaven’s legions and heroes showed up at his doorstep only to get pimp slapped handily since fighting them wasn’t even that fun anymore and wukong just wanted to chill in his waterfall*
@@thelordandsaviorgigachadrr888 remember the laser eyes, his very first power, neither does Monkey cause he doesn't seem to use them anymore.
@@frenato00 technically it was never established whether they were dangerous. It was the bright light that startled heaven. No one ever really actually explains if it is a power, or if it was a side-effect of being born. Monkey never hurt anyone with it, nor has he used it more than once.
Not to mention how many times he’s been the voice of reason 😂😂
Oh boy we are heading to Gerudo Town! See you next year!
Main difference is that here if you don't marry the women, they dismember you and stuff you into some pillows for makeup.
Wait, what?! 😱
@@rowenamillicent9250 read the book
Pigsy gets pregnant from drinking water
The crossover we were all waiting for
“I’m hungry. Are you hungry?”
“Eight years we’ve known each other. How *dare* you ask me that”
That was a wonderful line.
This could be a line straight out of TFS, and there are so many characters who would say it.
@@AnakinTheWeird Man, it's almost like DB took major inspiration from Journey to the West and the characters can all be paralled to ones in the other.
This is a parody of JttW, TFS made a parody of DBZ, makes sense.
Vincent Rando
Now I’m imagining Goku and Vegeta saying this, in that order.
@@enlongjones2394 I would like to see Vegeta's reaction in reading journey to the west
I love how monkey is simultaneously just a force of shear fucking chaos and also the only voice of reason half the time
This just feels like my life...
@@evobrand1210 same lol 😆
That's how it feels to have ADHD
He’s the living embodiment of ADHD.
@@thehandsomeone8369 Me, an Autistic Person: "ADHD?🤔"
Even Red has forgotten that the horse is actually a dragon at this point.
It honestly seems like the author forgot that fact like a quarter of the way through haha
@@GlalGamingPanda Being a dragon really isn't indicative of power in Chinese mythology - keep in mind that the Dragon Kings of the Four Seas (the most powerful dragons, one of which is the horse's dad) were scared shitless by a single monkey. Honestly White Dragon is such a tiny blip on the journey power scale he might as well be a horse. Buddha does reward him at the end of the journey though!
journey to the west is essentially jojo
@@TheBBDodo spoilers!
@@piratecheese13 Which part
"Steve"
"Frank"
Fucking killed me lmao
@NARASIMAAN SHAMIKSHA LAKSHMI 11:28 It's a visual gag.
Pigsy: "How can a circle drawn on the ground protect us from anything?"
Me: "Clearly Pigsy has never heard of a Sea Bear."
it would of also protected them from sea rhinoceros
@@brasswing2681 no no no thats stupid
You need the right underwear for the sea rhinos
God bless this comment thread
Clearly Pigsy has never heard of the Kane’s or their shenanigans with Egyptian gods and said magic circles. (The books I’m referencing here are the Kane Chronicles)
@@moonwatcher4047 im not sure there are any nomes in china, are there?
I suppose if there are some in russia....
Gotta love how the stories in this video are: "My pet escaped, what do you mean they're trying to eat a monk!!??"
I just love the idea of the Gods having minor figures and even pets around them
That end up somehow turning into Power Hungry Demons when they enter the real world
First Kain-Yin’s goldfish and now Laou-Tsu’s buffalo
(Correct me if I spelt anything wrong! Chinese isn’t my first language)
isekai title
Slight spoilers : Its gonna happen again. Almost every demon in this story is just some deity's pet/disciple/relative 💀
Don't worry, there will be more escaped pets trying to eat the monk in this story
I think we can safely consider Monkey to also be the origin of the “somehow makes all his former enemies into bros” shonen trope
It's the classic: "If you can't beat them, join them."
@@DomenBremecXCVI or as the English would say "Once you beat them, make them join you." (But more fun and with slightly less slavery.)
Kinda but the difference is Wukong want to kill them all.
Well, he's who's Goku is based on.
As ThePaganSun said Goku is based on Wukong and DB is the quintessential shonen
“Will Piggsy stop being the inviting incident every time?”
No.
*Lmao*
Will Tripitaka _ever_ learn that random villages are ruled by demons?
Character development is for the weak !!!
@@TheFiresloth yeah!
@@vaughnjohnson8767 no. XD
Is it just me, or is Monkey starting to character-develop his way into less of a reckless musclehead?
That's what I thought too.
That whole point of his suffering
It's worse. He's becoming self-aware.
And the world is poorer for it...we need our obnoxious meathead that can totally back-up his bragging
Doesn't he represent the mind ?? ,very strong yet with reckless tendency.
I am insanely impressed that Sun has been dealing with Pigsy for 8 years and hadn't killed him. I did not think he would have that kind of restraint
There are no need for restrain really. Because of Pigsy's flaws he ended up in a lot of trouble and fell easily for Wukong's many pranks, so he ended up being a source of entertainment/a clown for the group.
On one hand, he’s probably also immortal
On the other hand, I can see Sun Wukong being like “I got immortality to spare, I can somehow give up one of mine to give up yours”
"In our defense, my disciple is an idiot"
Think I found a new merch quote
He acts like he hasn't been in this exact same situation before. Monkey may be a loose cannon but he is actually right most of the time and Trip never learns.
We truly need this quote on a shirt.
I'd buy it
"we trained him incorrectly, as a joke."
@@LtDavidB312 amen
“Don’t wander out of your protective circle into a demon-infested village” is right up there with “don’t follow the trail of blood into the basement.”
Horror movie tropes are even older than Cthulhu
monkey was only trying to protect them from sea bears
And if you must, go full Doomslayer.
“don’t follow the trail of blood into the basement.”
Boy, if that didn't work wonders in my, and my friends campaign. I mean, the town got screwed, but it was a shit hole anyway.
Monkey: "Don't leave the circle, it'll keep you safe."
Pigsy: "Hey guys! Let's leave the circle!"
Everyone: "Okay!"
Monkey: "WHAT PART ABOUT 'DON'T LEAVE THE CIRCLE' WAS UNCLEAR?!!"
Best part of that was they were almost entirely defeated by a demon/buffalo *wielding a circle*
@@slayinderp7501 Until Lao Tzu appears and the buffalo straight up freaks out.
It is never good when Monkey is the voice of reason. Also somewhat unexpected so I can't blame them
At this point, Pigsy needs a migraine headband like Monkey’s that zaps him every time he does something stupid
Probably the "don't" part
“He’s becoming self aware!”
That one got me. Everyone run away the mokey king is starting to realize how dumb he is he may get smarter.
Hosently I don't think Wukong was ever dumb. He's just impulsive.
@@tavoknaza7086and reckless. Depending on the situation
8:58
“I couldn’t steal PEACHES on the clock without the Jade emperor ordering my execution! How do these guys keeping getting away with this!?”
Probably a lot of incompetence on the Jade emperors part
And yes, one of the major points of Journey to the West is to make a parody of incompetent government in the form of heavenly court and the wish for all peaceful far away world in the form of Western sky/Nirvana (the destination of the journey).
Bureaucracies tend to have this weakness, especially if abused from the inside.
The rest of the universe:
"...no.....stop....dont..."
To be fair, those were pretty special peaches
@@brianweaver327 more reason to have them better guarded
I like to imagine that wheel Red spins only has “river” and “mountain”
Add a third slice: literally anything
And village/palace which is either owned or bothered by a demon
I think the third slice is "Demon-infested town." Maybe it's exclusively demons, maybe it's controlled by demons, maybe demons are attacking, but it's a town and you're dealing with demons.
River, mountain, castle and village. We saw 3/4 here, but she promised the fourth next time.
Fun fact: combination of Chinese characters for “mountain” (山 - "shan") and "water" (水 - "shui") literally means "landscape" ("山水" - "shanshui").
So yeah, it is pretty much mountains and rivers all the way.
'Do you still have that sassy 12 year old?' is the best question anyone asked before requesting help.
10:28
Fun fact 1: Kuanyin is pissed not at her pet goldfish missing, but for some reason that her enlightenment speech didn't enlighten it but instead turned it into a demon (maybe its too boring)
Fun fact 2: Buddha did not directly say Lao tsu because Lao tsu is the head of all Taoists, you could say the only person that rivals in power with the buddha, so they are kinda rivals in a sense (religious beliefs rivals ya know)
They still friends tho
@@quinnholloway5400yea they chill with each other
So that entire adventure could be considered filler
And Monkey is the link between both of them. The ultimate Taoist and the ultimate Buddhist 😂
I am... Not entirely sure they are depicted as equal in power in this story. Given, y'know, their respective track records dealing with Enormous Fuck You Monkey Demon Gods That Can Kill Dragons.
“He’s learning.”
“He’s becoming self aware”
Oh no!
He’s a neural net processor a learning computer
Isn''t that literally the whole point? The undisciplined human mind (in the form of Sun Wukong) becoming constrained and directed through spiritual power (in the form of a magic headache spell) wielded by the Superego/forebrain/maybe I wanna say Yang(?) (in the form of Tripataka). Of course he's becoming self-aware, that has to be part of growing towards enlightenment, yeah?
@@TheDrCN I thought Tripataka was supposed to be the pure enlighted heart? Idk, some time since I looked this up.
@@guggelguggel7491 I haven't looked it up at all, I'm just going off of the idea that Monkey's symbolism is incredibly blatant, with that in mind, the magic seal being religion or spirituality holding the power to rebuke and restrain the otherwise feral and uncivilized psyche of the unenlightened mind is equally apparent. From that, what Tripataka represents can only be the answer to the question "what aspect of human psychology is it that is empowered by spirituality to control the base aspects of psychology".
The reason why I think Tripataka must represent some aspect of the human mind/spirit/humanity in general is that everyone else does. Red previously stated in iirc episode 1 (I binged the whole series recently) that the horse represents human will, so if the horse is human will, the pig is gluttonous hedonism, Monkey is the undisciplined and atavistic base drives, so that leaves Tripataka as the most spiritual and high-minded parts of the human psyche. But not a totally enlightened being in himself, because enlightenment is all about balance. You can't represent only a part of what a person is and also be a truly complete and spiritually fulfilled person in and of yourself.
The other point I'd like to point out is how Monkey keeps recognizing dangers that Tripataka fails to. Which I find extremely interesting and incredibly important, because enlightenment is not pure Superego. Tripataka is virtuous, but he is not the end point of this journey, and Monkey learning and growing to become more like Tripataka is not a one-way street. There is value in those base instincts that Monkey is so in touch with. Not just combat ability, but as an aspect of being a complete person. If Tripataka were meant to represent someone who already has enlightenment, then the message doesn't make sense to me. It seems clear in the story that Tripataka is also in need of growth, and in need of life lessons. Why would he be going on this journey if the thing he represents were the endpoint of the journey?
And just as an aside, I have no idea how to phrase this without resorting to Freudian terminology. It fits incredibly well, and it blows my mind that it could line up so perfectly across thousands of years and totally different cultures. I'm sure the ancient Chinese had their own terminology, which I'm only assuming at an educated guess probably related to Yin and Yang somehow, but to my Eurocentric brain, I look at this and all I'm seeing is Id and Superego.
And of course, all this is just my own interpretation. I haven't even read the original story, let alone researched it at all. I could be off-base on this.
It's even possible that I am misunderstanding what the phrase "pure enlightened heart" is meant to imply. I can agree with the "pure" part at least. If someone more familiar with Buddhist/Taoist/Confucian spirituality tells me that I just don't understand what "enlightened" means, then I guess maybe I do agree with that description and what I'm arguing over is just me not understanding the exact terminology.
"I couldn’t even steal PEACHES on the clock without the Jade Emperor ordering my execution! How do these guys keep getting away with this?!" 🤣
When
To be fair, it was, like, a lot of peaches
@Elijah Smith And that they only grow once every 500 to 1000 years or so. Which can make someone immortal.
@@RandomPerson-cm2wg But isn’t 500years on earth like, 500 days in the heavens?
@@forbiddenchannel4901 I think he meant in heavenly time not earthly time.
"Do you still have that really sassy 12 year-old?" Freaking KILLED me
He kinda reminds me of Nezha
That is Nezha
y e s
Also known as... A 12 year-old
@@rickjones7444 Prince Nata IS Prince Nezha
So basically every arc since they started the journey is
-Gang shows up to a village
-Big demon is in village
-Pigsy does some stupid shit
-Tripitaka gets captured
-Monkey fights demon
-Monkey goes to heaven and talks to the gods
-Random god who is related to demon comes down and instantly defeats demon
-Tripitaka is rescued and they continue the journey
(Optional, Sandy does something)
And the dragon horse does absolutely nothing.
Even more optional, the Dragon Horse does something
Ok but the times Sandy does something are REALLY COOL!
sometimes it's a mountain instead of a village
@@bloodstoneore4630 sometimes its big body of water
Sun: "Man, I'm hungry. Are you hungry?"
Pigsy: "Eight years we've known each other. How dare you ask me that?"
Best interaction of the video.
@GABRIEL GONZALEZ 2:02
"how should we stop Tripitaka on his journey?"
"mountains and demons"
"I love it!"
dpnt forget the rivers!! gotta keep it spicy
mountains are tight!
to be fair, what's west of most of China is mostly mountains and rivers sooo...
@@barryallen2240 "They're super easy, barely an inconvenience!"
"What took you so long bringing these scriptures back?"
"Well, it was a rough journey, we had to go over all those mountains, cross all those rivers, fight all those demons..."
"Wait, you mean you didn't just take the Silk Road?"
"The what road?"
The Journey to the West...
*leans back, puffing a cigarette* Now that's a name I haven't heard in a *long* time
Lmfao mood
Don’t smoke, kids.
*Puffs a carrot*
Tripitaka: It's been 8 years since this started, I just wanna go home...
Sun, stuck under a mountain for 500 years: OH BOO HOO, POOR THING. ALLOW ME TO CRY TEARS AT YOUR SUFFERING.
Tripitaka: You're quintuple immortal, you terrify basically everyone, you beat the shit out of the entire army of Heaven and several of the most powerful beings in existence are your buddies; I'm constantly in danger of being eaten for something I have no control over. Who's got it worse again?
Sun: Ok yes fair enough but also s h u t
I absolutely love how you used the term "allow me" as if he's asking him permission to cry lol 😆
The final "s h u t" tipped me over the fucking edge.
This is their relationship
any Undertale character: *-laughs in was (possibly) stuck under a mountain for like 1,000 years-*
Aang from Avatar: *-laughs in stuck in ice for years and years-* (I forget the amount of time*
@@rynasienna it was 100 years lol
It's a Christmas miracle. Now we just have to wait another year for part IX.
Oh. That's a lot of time...
Santa (red) came down and blessed us all
Or million
Lmao
Oof...
Now everyone say “thank you Red, merry Christmas to you too”
Thank you Red-sama, Marry Christmas to you too, my queen.
Thank you, Red, merry Christmas to you too.
Merry Chrysler 🎄💖
Thank u red
Thank you, Red, merry Christmas to you too.
Why is traveling the world so hard, but the monkey can casually go to heaven as if it was your local grocery store?
Because he has to drag a powerless monk who smells like roasted chicken to demon around.
Yeah, like the other commenter said, it's because they are going at Tripitaka's pace. It's also an example of the journey being what causes the needed character development, and what they go through on the way to their destination is what really matters. Just look at Monkey this episode, he's already improved a lot as a person and has become more aware of his flaws, only because of all the trials they have gone through on the journey itself.
It is really funny though that it took Monkey about 5 minutes to get to the Buddha.
Also, why is every demon on equal power with Monkey while the monke basically trashed all of heaven except the Buddha?
Plot convenience
@@ilikethecokev2 Also maybe some Force style "evil gets power faster but it's a shortcut, so it doesn't help the individuals outside of raw power" type shenanigans.
Can we just talk about how cute Sun Wukong's reaction to the snowstorm is?
He might just be the cutest murder machine ever.
maybe Sun Wukong is the progenitor of the cute Yandere trope?
Im not sure hes ever even seen snow? But maybe he’s just a little murdering toddler who really likes snow
@@Farrie13 Even if Flower Fruit Mountain, Master Subodhi's place, and Five Phases Mountain (the only places on Earth that he's ever really lingered as far as I know) are too temperate for snow, he did travel for a decade to find Master Subodhi, and he's been traveling for a few years with Tripitaka already, so he's probably found snowy places before. Might still be a rare sight for him.
@@xRAINxOFxBLOODxmakes sense he’s just a snow lovin murder machine
@@xRAINxOFxBLOODxalso, in episode 10 red says that monkey can recognize the seasons.
Ya know, this whole "Journey to the West" bit is beginning to look like a plot to get Sun Wukong to clean up Heaven's messes.
shit man you got a point
Every second villain is some guy who escaped from heaven
@@witoldtadeusz The fact that so many people are escaping from heaven makes it sound like it’s a terrible place to be
Man, arkham has better security then this place...
@@caltheuntitled8021 well author is Buddhist so I think he did use his power as much as possible
Kuan Yin getting all disheveled and distraught for losing her pet, only to learn it has wrecked untold havoc elsewhere, is a big mood.
*Kuan Yin* :I’m too tired for this shit at least it’s not a problem Monkey himself caused.
When Monkey is the voice of reason, it truly is a bad omen.
Nobody tell Pigsy (and red) but the journey to the west actually lasts 14 YEARS LONG. But at the end of it they all end up becoming pretty OP (yes even pigsy)
I find it hilarious that you think Red doesn't know.
@@Getsugaru lol oh yeah it took Red 6-7 years to read half of the book 😂
Is infinite left overs really that op
Even the Horse?
Also that means Sandy does win some fights
So standard shonen anime?
Monkey: Dude! These colors!
Me: Unlike any seen on on Earth!
I get that reference.
wait minute have i heard this somewhere
@@morijin3589 the Lovecraft video.
@@VyceofMataMertha I know
@@VyceofMataMertha r/whoooosh
Is anyone else disappointed that red didn’t say “a giant fuck you dragon”.
Yes, yes we did
Profanity
No
æ
yeah
"The best series to ever exist"
- everyone
"What? A trap?"
*Zoom onto Pigsy's face*
"I can't believe it"
The delivery of that line was absolute gold
"What was that thing about an empire of only women?"
MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY.
Inspiration for Gerudo Town?
Saaaame XD
yes that part where the rabbit demon seduces tripitaka then 1v1 wukong, but not before stripping
@@noodlesmaster69420 Thought it was a scorpion
im fairly certain its the scorpion demon who tries to seduce tripitaka and when it doesnt work she decides to try and eat him
I know he's super powerful and has definitely murdered a ton of people, but I swear Monkey looks more adorable every time Red draws him.
he doesnt kill people for the most part. demons and heavenly soldiers though....
YES exactly
What is thos?
@@mxn1948 It's like the Foot Clan from Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. If they're actual people, go easy on them. But if they're robots, GO FRIGGIN' NUTS!
Monkey as a shrimp: DUDE THESE COLORS!!!
As a biology nerd, this brought joy to my soul!
I dont get it
@@noahkarpinski1824 Simple version: Some species of shrimp are able to see a much wider range of the electromagnetic spectrum than us humans. So transforming into a shrimp would basically allow you to suddenly see colors we literally can't even imagine.
@@starfishhugger6232 "Strange colors, unlike any seen on earth..."
@@dwell7315 WHAT MIGHT THEY BE CAPABLE OF!?!?!
Cool, thanks for the info.
This episode was all about how celestial pets can turn into strong demons. I love it.
I laughed my ass off so hard at the fact Monkey literally drew a circle around them knowing exactly what they were gonna do as soon as he left that a family member came upstairs to check on me.
Lol XD Gold Comedy!!
I see Horse has forgotten about being a river dragon again.
THATS WHAT I WAS THINKING
Horse has been chilling as a horse for 7 YEARS I'd forget tbh lol
This Episode should be called “The One Where Monkey is Animal Control For Heavenly Run Away Pets”
Great Pest Control Equal to Heaven
Well he WAS pi-ma-wen before (sorry if I wrote that wrong)
He was actually in control of Heavenly Animals 500 years ago, with his position!
@@anniemeridian270 except they weren't running away
thats essentially what he does on this trip. one of the theories is that he knows they are heavenly animals plus the monk needs to come into danger to complete his quest , and thats why he seems weaker on the trip than when he fought heaven, hes holding back because he doesnt actually want to killed the god's pets and he can just go ask around for the real owner to come collect their pet. like the whole water thing, the reason given why hes weak in water is because he has to keep up a anti-water spell with one hand, so hes literally fighting with one hand tied any time hes in water, but like na zha, he has a massive 3 headed war form, and more importantly, it comes with 6 arms, allowing him to keep up extra spells making him literally invulnerable to all attacks in nearly all environments, not to mention even unarmed he can one punch mountains out of existent, so losing a staff isn't going to stop him really.
9:05 I love how red doest even mention that sun takes out the imps, it's just implied at this point
"Ho dude, do you still have that sassy 12 year old!" has to be the best anime like line of all time.
Dude if ONLY this could be animated with this art style and this comedic writing!
@@Zarastro54 And red voicing every character
Monkey acting restraint and patience?
Why, if it isn't a Christmas Miracle!
Sun Wukong is a being of impulse and instinct, which includes the survival instincts, hence being able to see otherwise hidden dangers.
The journey to the west is just the DM rolling a lot of random encounters
I would absolutely watch a live play d&d podcast based on Journey to the West.
It’s just a tired DM trying to disguise his one table encounter set-up
I'm almost in awe of how absolutely correct this is and mad at myself for not making that connection sooner.
GM pitches a story about bringing his GM-NPC, a Buddhist monk named Tripataka, to India. The first player runs a super immortal Monkey with a billion powers, the second runs a dumb pig man that uses a rake as his main weapon. The GM has no choice but to meet madness with madness.
With a d4 deciding the location. Mountain, river, mountain city, river city
@@CatComixzStudios Sandy strikes me as an old RPG veteran who has an very capable character but allows other people to act first.
7:04 "Careful, he's learning..." **giggles*
8:54 "He's becoming self-aware." **laughs my ass off*
It’s amazing how the author managed to make monkey so overpowered but not a mary sue since his enemies challenge him in ways that he can’t easily solve. Even though he’s really powerful, he very rarely uses brute force to solve the problems, often preferring to find creative solutions and getting allies to help him out.
Also his weakness of fighting in water makes sense since he literally drops like a rock because he is one
his no.1 solution is call his buddies at heaven
@@duxhunt oh shit I never considered that. Makes sense
Admittedly 50% of all of his problems are solved by flying to Guan Yin or the Buddha and complain. Frankly, those two should just permanently join the fellowship so Monkey can save on airfare expenses.
@@yiklongtay6029 probably because they wanted to promote Buddhism by showing "even the mighty monkey king needs buddhism"
Can we acknowledge that this entire part was because 2 celestial beings lost their pets
Heaven really needs to learn to hire pet watchers.
It not gonna be last time
Thank god none of these gods have like a cat.... right?
@@kiryu11111 If that was the case I would estimate that there was a 80-90% chance of a Sehkmet style situation
@@KarishmaChanglani Remember when heaven tried to hire monkey to be their pet (horse) watcher? Good times.
This series is the ultimate
‘We can’t go over it,
We can’t go under it,
So we have to go through it.’
“Why we can’t go around it”
“Shut up nerd”
“₽uck we in trouble”
It’s amazing how JttW has one of the most over powered characters ever conceived but is usually facing a river demon, evenly matched, or is given a hard time in these chosen examples. Basically the opposite of a over powered character.
Also gives the point of no matter how strong one is, wit and strategy can win mostly any fight
Actually, not a lot of demons can win sun by combat. It’s just they always have some killer weapons or just live under water
@@xahbal yep that’s what I meant by “usually facing a river demon, evenly matched” and “is given a hard time”
Nah, it's "THE POWER OF LOVE AND FRIENDSHIP"
He's *just* powerful enough to beat everything in a fair fight, but never gets a fair fight.
Or maybe hes holding back to not kill his opponents. Like superman
Basically Just a ancient D&D campaign now, where the win condition is someone in your party you have to escort.
DM keeps campaign going because he can throw whatever he wants at the party and not get accused of railroading. 😅😆
and monkey is just that one person who figured out how to break the system, made a really broken character out of it, and now the gm is disregarding the rulebook in order to stop him from breaking the entire campaign
And monkey proves that even with all the power in the world escort missions still suck. :/
And Pigsy is either the Chaotic Stupid one or keeps rolling Nat 1's on any intelligence-related rolls...or both.
@@reyonXIII pigsy: "1 in 20 chance of a Nat 20 is still a chance!"
I remember first seeing this series when I was a scrub getting my master’s degree. Now I am married, got a job and have a 9 month old kid, and praise the Buddha I saw this pop into my feed today. The nostalgia and joy is overwhelming. And I hope to see this series conclude before my death 50 years from now. Please keep up the good work. Best wishes from China.
Woah
@@stevethepaidintern196 Woah is right
Goddamn, W O W
Man, you really went through a training arc.
Dang that’s epic
"and Monkey finds himself living out his worst nightmare of being the voice of reason" lmfao, that made my day xD
I love Quan "I woke up like this" Yin so much I hope we get merch of her when ever the next episode comes out
“Goldfish learned CRIMES!”
“But Goldfish already knows 4 moves! Should it forget one?”
> Yes
“Congratulations! Goldfish learned CRIMES and forgot GUAN YIN IS A BADASS DON’T MESS WITH HER DEAR BUDDHA, DID YOU LEARN NOTHING FROM RED BOY!!”
"Would _you_ want to give you bad news?" needs to be on a shirt.
I would so buy that shirt!
@@JessTheReader I’ll take a 12-pack if you have it!
Agreed! More JttW Merch!
If in 7 years of traveling Tripitaka still thinks it's a good idea to listen to Pigsy, I don't think he'll ever learn
I kinda wanna know if the part where Monk gets mad at Monkey (again) and throws him out while Monkey sits in the woods crying and writing poetry has happened yet. If it has i'm shocked Red didn't cover it since it's hysterical, if not then i look forward to seeing that animated ^^
Wait. WHAT
do you know what chapter it is?
@@Bailey_Blues unfortunately, i don't. I haven't read it in years. All i remember is laughing my ass off at the situation
@@SolarBlyze XD it's fine! Maybe i'll find it some other time.
If you don’t mind me asking - what version did you read or would recommend of JTTW?? I want to get it myself but have found that there a bunch of different versions so I wanna know what the best or most common are
Conclusion, Sun’s character development is holding on strong, Pigsy got his ass handed to him by a goldfish, and there is now a very small wheel that is spun to determine random encounters for the group like a game of dnd. Spoiler alert: most of them involve a form of demon.
Let's be honest, that IS the earliest D&D group. Sun Wukong is (pardon the pun)the Skill Monkey-Rogue/Fighter Multiclass, Tripitaka is a Monk/Cleric with the Way of Pacifist, Pigsy is obviously a Bard, Sandy is the groups Warlock(rather competent but his power has pitiful uses) and the Dragon-Horse is obviously a Druid, who has way to much fun staying in Wildshape to actually do something useful
"So everyone's a bit on edge."
Ha.
I see what you did there.
9:36 "But turns out this is what the demon was waiting for"
God, this really is an anime
This inspired those cartoons.
It is the origin of anime and d&d
5:05
Monkey: runs into the bamboo grove and sees her looking like she was awake for 3-days straight.
Me: Laughing so hard at Monkey’s look of extreme surprise and awkwardness right now.🤣
Honestly I’d be pretty surprised to if I was one of guan yin’s worshippers or sun himself, seeing her as disheveled as she is when she’s supposedly a compassionate god with rather little emotions other than that, and she’s so composed and all that crap. But yeah it was kinda funny seeing her look like someone who woke up with a migraine or a hangover
We all wanna call out Monkey for just dropping in on the Buddha but that horse IS STILL A WHOLE DAMN DRAGON
Jade ring is gonna suck up the whole damn horse or something
EVERYONE DOED
I forgot that the horse was a dragon.
@@lunaguy1195 I think the "horse" has forgotten too.
Why does monkey just fly Tripitaka to buda
I was having a pretty bad Christmas but this made me happy.
I hope it gets better. Merry Christmas, Nicole.
Same
Same since work called me in, this turned my frown upside-down
Merry Christmas! I hope it will get better
Merry Christmas 🎄
Between the self-awareness jokes on Monkey's behalf, and the "Do you still have that sassy 12 year old??" I'm absolutely cackling.
"I'm _five hundred and_ twelve now, you prick!"
"Why do you still look twelve?"
"Shut up!"
I'm just surprised that 12 year old isn't a she
I always thought he was a she
Must be the hair and those Chun Lee looking things on his head
6:10 I guess being a bodhisattva has it's perks. Even on your worst day people will still think you are inherently awesome when they see you.
"But clearly the demon is not actually _that_ interested in fighting fair"
what a shocker
Petition to have Quan "I woke up like this" Yin on a t-shirt
I’d wear it.
Yessssss
@@guitarsurfer15 As would i
YES
INVEST
“Gold Fish learned crime” is the best quote I have heard all year
Gold fish had evolved into platinum fish
gold fish has evolved into goldados
Just what 2020 needs, the Goldfish Mob.
Magikarp evolved. 😂
“Dude these COLORS” Nearly snorted my drink
CoLOrs uNLikE AnY seEN oN EaRTh
"Will Tripataka's luck with mountains and rivers finally improve?"
Probably not.
This aged like wine.
What else is there in the 5 kingdoms?
"careful, he's learning" "he's becoming self-aware"
I love these little tidbits.
Me too
From what I've learned binge watching this series I know at least 3 things must happen.
1. A mountain or river must always appear in the path of our heroes.
2. Demons are behind everything.
3. Tripitaka must always, ALWAYS get kidnapped.
And 4. Pigsy has to make things difficult
5. the horse does nothing
pretty sure mountains and rivers are allegories for challenges/problems. And the super warriors (Sun, sandy and pigsy) are the various facets of the human psyche.
Sun wukong being the raw human mind (iirc) being OP and solving everything when he sets out for it, makes for an interesting dynamic.
@@cherrybomb1130 6. Tripitaka believes Pigsy/ignores Monkey.
@@michaeldora9068 7. Kuanyin or Buddha some how get involved
At this point I am amazed that tripitaka doesn't have a phobia of rivers and water... he has so much river trauma
"Next time on Journey to the West..."
See you all in a decade folks!
Jokes aside, I can only imagine how time-consuming this kind of video can be for all involved, especially when you're also juggling work on other more frequently updated series of videos in a timely manner in addition to just life in general.
I greatly appreciate the work and passion that goes into these and thank you Red and Blue for all that you do. This video was a wonderful addition to this joyous holiday! :D Merry Christmas to you both or whichever equivalent holiday you find most fitting :)
PLOT TWIST: Red is actually Kentaro Miura.
@@Mazaroth HAHAHA I know that kind of pain given I'm a huge Berserk fan XD I just hope both of them finish their respective magnum opuses at some point. In both cases I don't really mind the wait as long as I get to read/see them in my lifetime. I'm currently 28, so I've (hopefully) got time lol
@@loneronin6813 I'm turning 29 soon and i've been a struggler for the past 10 of those years, i recently re-read berserk in a marathon and realised that i had just consumed 30 years of one mans life's work in 30 hours.
@@Mazaroth Still, I think that's a thirty hours well spent when it comes to creative works. Berserk is really something special and to be honest, I consider it one of my most favorite written works, and I don't mean just among manga or comics.
@@loneronin6813 I do agree that it's amazing, not only due to its visuals but the story and themes too.
BEST CHRISTMAS PRESENT ANYONE COULD EVER ASK FOR!
LITERALLY
YES!!!
YEEEEEESSSSSSS!
YESSSS
I 100% agree.
Welcome to another episode of "GOD DAMN IT PIGSY"
Between episodes all he does is keep asking "are we there yet?"
"He's becomming self aware" well good job