Legends Summarized: Robin Hood
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- Опубликовано: 20 фев 2020
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"You speak treason!"
"Fluently!"
Is? that? a? quote? from? something?
mimichu
Yeah. The 30’s Errol Flynn film.
Geek Week One of the best ones really, people should watch it.
So that's where Obi-Wan Kenobi got his sarcastic demeanor from.
Kenobi is Robin Hood in space.
Hm. Neat.
@@Ky-Nas Wait how?
*Maid Marian* : I want a nice guy who’s cool, charitable and respects women.
*Robin Hood* : I want a girlfriend who can not only kick my ass but would do so upon request
And yet she picked the bad boy libertarian, which is what Robin Hood actually was.
I see Robin Hood shares my tastes
Ahh, as the old anime quote goes from one of the greatest characters ever....
"I love the kind of woman who can kick my ass." -Spike
@@Fanatic_Foremem Hear, hear.
If she can't defeat you in single combat, what's the point?
I love how the joke of "Little John" being an incredibly large & burly man has seemingly remained consistent since the character's creation.
The people know a good joke when they hear it.
Underappreciated comment. That's a seven-hundred-year-old banger there.
"They call me Little John. But don't let my name fool you. In real life, I'm very big."
"I'll take your word for it."
Pipsqueak: you think my name is funny?
Aang:…it’s hilarious!
Yeah, my father named the massive dog he used to have "Little" (masculine)
@@octaviandoroteja8512Petit?
I just. I love the version of Maid Marian who's like, "Oh no my boyfriend got exiled, guess I'd better just grab my hiking boots and tramp on into the wilds to find him" and then she's like "Oh no, a recent but already well-known outlaw, guess I'll just beat his ass" and then SHE DOES. And HE LIKES IT. Between this and Little John I think Robin Hood just adores people who can wreck his shit, which, honestly, same.
If they can kick your ass and have your back, that’s about as good an ally as you can get
He just like me fr fr
@@kynan1232 CT fha. A koiaksanakaa 🎉k. K
Sounds pretty fruedian *stares intensely*
Reminds me of that one gianni matrigianno video
Wait, so you're telling me "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" is barely a hundred years old, while "Maid Marion is kind of a badass" goes back to the seventeenth century?
I mean, surprising but not too surprising. Some things are much older than people in modern times imagine(not helped that historians in certain eras(victorian era is really bad about that in general :P ) try to make things fit their own world view)
Technically there is many bandits who stealing from if not downright fighting oppressive lords help local populations (beside Rogue Hood I also know Slavic Janosik, but there is way more then that). But it rarely was due to noble values though some peasant rebellions were also morally justified. Anyway this detail become vogue during modern times, so it was simplified "stealing from the rich and giving to poor" instead more proper "stealing from nobility, what they steal from you on the fist place, but at the same time you are the poor for who you stealing it back, so it isn't also not exactly that noble itself".
Well the rich were government officials that put taxes on everything
I've tried to find cool fanart of Marion being badass, but all that comes up is the Disney version.
No, google, HUMAN, I want HUMAN MAID MARION GOOGLE, GODDAMMIT!
@@tedcomet3121 That itself wasn't a problem. Problem was that they commonly spend those taxes on luxuries, when they people starved. Incompetent rules commonly birth the rebellion.
Red: "Capitalism Sucks."
Me: Sounds about right for someone named Red.
*Soviet anthem gets louder*
Communist detected on American soil lethal force engaged!
- liberty Prime
@@doom7ish
*BETTER DEAD THEN RED!*
@@Criomorph Red Dead begs to differ.
*USSR anthem intensifies*
Fun fact: in the Disney version, the sheriff, Prince John, and Sir Hiss are all based on real Disney executives who took over the studio after Walt Disney died. These three were apparently super hated by everyone - including Disney himself back when he was alive, who declared that opening his company to investors was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Is this why Disney is the juggernaut of capitalism it is now?
Look what Disney is now.
Interesting.
@@N0VA_YT101 Yeah, just look.
Guess you learn something interesting everyday huh?
Watching this again a year later, I think we all forgot the very important factor that Robin Hood sits very comfortably in a position where he can fit into literally anyone's moral code. Religious? Robin Hood fits. Anti-Taxation or hate big government? Robin Hood fits. Don't like authority figures? Robin Hood fits. Patriotic despite the government? Robin Hood fits. I don't know a single person who dislikes Robin Hood because you can reasonably fit him into almost every world view. I've seen well thought out arguments that this dude would, in modern day, be a libertarian, a communist, a conservative, a liberal, even a monarchist or authoritarian due to his opposition to bad kings in favor of good ones. I don't think a figure exists that is so malleable he can fit into almost any world view in a positive light outside of Jesus Christ.
That is a really good point. He has been rewritten so many times from so many points of view that it really does just come down to what stories you choose to focus on.
I don't quite see how Robin Hood fits a religious moral code though.
@@wjzav1971 Robin is literally a Catholic in the most well-known stories. Also if you actually pay attention to what Jesus says in the Bible, he's very against the hoarding of wealth and says it's almost impossible for a rich person to get into Heaven. So Robin Hood fits with that angle.
How would jesus be the same, his story is super messy and incoherent, having multiple often opposite versions and morals of them with so much variety.
@@FirstLast-wk3kc Robin Hood is just like Jesus in that regard. There are literally many retellings of his story, many people admire him and thus try to fit him into THEIR world views
Red: "See Millennials, gettin' a job isn't that hard, just engage your boss in single combat-"
Me, under my breath like a hermit: "Defeat them and they'll join your party, video games have trained us for this!"
Select your weapon:
*Katana*
Special abilities: Make you look like a weeb
Drawbacks: In bad condition
*Old English Broadsword*
Special abilities: If you get one hit to the head it’s an insta-kill
Drawbacks: You require a base strength stat of 18 or above to wield this weapon.
*Plastic Lightsaber*
Special abilities: You can actually use this with your current stats. Also can compact to fit in smaller spaces.
Drawbacks: Does 0.5 damage
In Robin Hood's case it tends to be "get defeated by them" though XD And then invite them to work for you because they're so good.
Me: “skips the dialogue and goes straight to fighting the boss.”
Everyone else at the staff meeting: ....WTF?!
Idk what you guys are talking about I only played dragon quest 5
Idk what you guys are talking about I only played dragon quest 5
Red: "Why is he our go-to?"
Me: Because a character with no attached copyrights, trademarks, etc. is a hell of a lot cheaper than other characters. 😀
That's the fate of all public domain characters.
And a character that sticks it to the man and helps the poor can be used in any setting. Modern day people could use him to steal from governments and big business CEOs and give to poor people on the streets.
...so because of capitalism?
Søren Sørensen Yep, Capitalism
Not enough people are using Lupin that’s why
Fun fact: shooting an arrow through another arrow that is already on the target and splitting that on-target arrow in half in the process is called Robin Hooding, kind of obvious how that name came to be but yeah, not only is he the forever dashing and cunning rogue but he is also the most stylish archery champion, so much so that the coolest way to win an archery competition is named after him.
It really sucks during practice though, having to constantly buy new arrows
@@khoatran-pc6tb it’s really hard to do with modern fibreglass arrow shafts and field tips, since fibreglass shatters rather than split, which is made worse by the field tip’s round, non-cutting design
@@1003JustinLaw It sounds like it would suck so much more to be shot with a Fibre Glass Arrow than a Wooden one.
@@MantraMan2077 I mean, you're not hard enough to cause the fiberglass to shatter, even if the arrow hits one of your bones. Besides, with fiberglass you don't have to worry about splinters. And also, fiberglass tends to be straighter and more flexible, so it'll be easier to extract, a wooden shaft might not be completely straight and might snap inside of you, which would make you wish you actually died from the shot than having to live through getting it extracted.
@@1003JustinLaw my dad did it once years ago, it was with a crossbow so maybe that's a bit different
When you realize that Robin Hood is basically fan-fiction fodder.
Ye olde fanne fikt
Thaaaat's folk stories.
Well yeah. Need to come up with a morality story about greed and sharing for your kids and don't have anything off the top of your head? Spin some tale of Robin teaching the lesson to a peasant who stumbled into a huge windfall, boom, kids learn their lessons and there's a new Robin Hood story out there.
Are you saying that Robin Hood is the medieval Touhou Project?
Welcome to the Folklore Genre!
"Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you historical documentation." Holy cow, I love this line.
As someone who does live history and is constantly trying to figure out what the average bloke lived like instead of the well documented lords and kings, I feel this quote in my soul.
My research focuses on women and children, so same.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Yeah, I need that as a t-shirt
@Johnny Cage Medieval Europe deserves more credit than this.
Mary: “Respect women”
Robin Hood: “Hell yeah my gal!”
pewdiepie is the mother of Jesus yall
Having Maid Marion go out in disguise, fight Robin is a full on swordfight and actually beating him, sounds like something a modern writer would do, so imagine my surprise to find out that its from a hundreds of years old version of the story
@@weldonwin that writer proably wanted to play with the warrior princess archtype
respect wahmen
@@dirtypure2023 yes only tru mun respect wamen
HOT TAKE: Later versions of the story, when Robin's dedication to the Virgin Mary starts to become less important to the story now have a new character, MAID MARIAN. Virgin Mary, Maid Marian, both important women that Robin is dedicated to in the story. It all fits! (This literally popped into my head while making fajitas and I had to comment on it right away.)
"Marian" is literally the adjective for the folk religion that consists of extreme worship of the Virgin Mary ("Marian devotions"). Sooo...
Definitely makes OP's theory sound even more convincing! 😋
Robin Hood and his Merry Men / Mary's Men?
Huh. Never thought of that. That actually makes sense, especially since his homeland eventually became aggressively Anti-Catholic and thus, rebranding him was important.
How was the fajitas? Were they good?
Ive noticed that Robin Hood and Sun Wukong have a lot of similarities as characteristics and their respective personalities, and honestly I just love that
Chaotic hoodlum who constantly undermines authority has been a universal concept for as long as there has been authority to undermine
If they meet something’s crashing and burning while they laugh in the background
Honestly, I’d watch/read that. The two just doing random things, especially with Wukong’s shape shifting and duplicating. Makes for unique story beats at least
Urban fantasy crossover
Took a lit class in college exclusively about Robin Hood. We watched several of the adaptations, including Prince of Thieves. There's a scene where Robin Hood is "showering" under a waterfall and everyone is dead silent just watching the movie and one of the guys who'd never spoken all semester piped up and said: "I went 27 years without seeing Kevin Costner's ass." And even the professor lost her shit.
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Alan Rickman's (may he rest in peace) Sheriff of Nottingham was the best thing about "Prince of Thieves", period.
@@jbvader721 Gotta be honest, don't remember a single thing about that movie except the experience I described above lmao
So.... was it a good ass?
There are so many uninterrupted silences in that movie.... I couldn't imagine watching it in a semi-serious setting.
Got to love that Robin is such a devout catholic he has to sneak into mass, then gets discovered because he's not so devout that he hasn't already robbed the monks of this church before.
A lot of religious people care more about churchgoing than they do about interpersonal decency.
@@BlackCover95 And those people get robbed by Robin Hood and then get mad when he tries to take Mass.
Most of the leaders in the old timey church were devout religious folk. Mostly thirdborns that bought a slot of comfort under the name of bishop. With the disinterest and noble faffery therein.
To be fair the church was majorly corrupt and fleeced everyone amassing more wealth than any Christian should have. Besides Jesus himself said It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, so Robin was just looking out for them and trying to save their souls.
I wonder if he would be Catholic…
Or Anglican, since he’s English, and they have their own church.
I think it would be so funny to have a movie about all the different Robin Hood’s with different backstories meeting and shenanigans ensuing
Into the Robin-verse
I could see it as mostly being mostly a bottle plot of a movie and still sounds like something I'd watch.
* all of the robins hood arguing over moral codes and methods *
* absolutely loaded nobleman walks by *
* arguing abruptly halts, as all robins hood mischievously grin in unison *
@@gamertwo6263 camera pans to a very dead noblemen and very happy orphanage owners/workers
I like to imagine a Mongol horde of Robin Hoods.
"Maid Marian"
"Robin was a devout follower of the Virgin Mary"
ohhhhh
Interestingly, as Maid Marian becomes more important in the stories, Robin Hood's devotion to the Virgin Mary is written out.
I guess this lore isn't big enough for *two* inspiring female models for the hero.
@@samrevlej9331 Actually, I wonder if some writer heard about "his devotion to Mary" and completely misinterpreted that and as a result Maid Marion was invented. It can't be a coincidence they have such similar names.
@@JaelinBezel ... I think it's a bit of a stretch, as "devotion to Mary" would immediately have been understood to mean the Virgin Mary, since they were living in a religious society. I just think that as morals and cultural norms shifted, it became morally okay and more engaging plot-wise to give him a love interest that could temporally replace Robin's spiritual devotion to Mary.
@@samrevlej9331 Well, England did turn from Catholic to Anglican and the Anglicans were not cool with venerating Mary. I thought that’s why the spiritual devotion to Mary was cut off, considering that Robin Hood was popular among the average folk at the time.
"Mary got him drinking that respect women juice."
We can agree that Robin Hood men in tights is the best Robin Hood movie
Don't you mean Marian
@@Jai137 nah, it mentions him believing in the virgin Mary
Jai137 05:38
If only we could supply that to the masses
Robin Hood: All women are queens!
Sherriff of Nottingham: If she breathes shes a THOT!
*Duel of the Fates intensifies*
White knights vs incels
Thot Destroyer of Nottingham
The Common Enemy: "If she *Thots...* she's a *QUEEN!*
Hehe I just gave the 420th like
I remember reading a book when I was little that was a retelling of Robin Hood called 'The Outlaws of Sherwood'. In this one, Robin is more of a normal kid, still smart, but with really bad luck. He's an orphan and was training to be one of the king's foresters in Sherwood Forest, but some of the other guys are dicks to him and one day they head him off on the way home and challenge him to a shooting contest. In this version, Robin really isn't a great shot, (which is why they're challenging him: just so they can pick on him about losing), but he ends up winning the contest. The loser then attacks him and Robin shoots him out of self-defense, meaning to just scare him and/or wound him, but accidentally shoots him through the heart. So now he's on the run. Much and Marion help him out and they go from there. Marion is the mastermind behind all of the workings of their little village in Sherwood and she is the one that goes to the archery tournament later on and splits the arrow, disguised as Robin literally to rub it in the Sheriff's face that he hasn't caught any of them yet. It was a really good book!
He kills all of them. All 15 of them
“Stay humble America, you’ve got a lot to be embarrassed about”
Me, former history teacher: OOOOOOOH YEAH!
Also, been watching a lot of your vids about mythology today. Seems like Robin Hood is what a lot of ancient myths were like back in the day (see: Loki, Hades and Persephone, etc), but the invention of the printing press means that the myth fossilized (to use your term, which is perfect) in that incomplete, nebulous form rather than in a more defined place.
I am sadly not surprised it was my native state of Indiana that tried to ban Robin Hood.
That killed me and I'm American.
I want to see a King Arthur/Robin Hood mashup, written by Red and Blue.
No, it won't make any historical sense. That's not the point, not even a little.
King Arthur comes back from his healing centuries on the isle of the fae to see that Britain is in a sorry state with robber barons and callous kings and sherrifs who care little for their people. Without his usual resources, any clue who might be descendants of his Knights and no sign of Merlin, he assembles a new circle of allies to try and knock the authority down a peg. The consistent joke is that he keeps claiming to be King Arthur but noone takes it seriously, not even his own Merry Men.
Robin Hood is a character in the "Sword in the Stone" portion of "The Once and Future King" where he's an adult while King Arthur is still a kid. He doesn't do much outside of complaining about how everyone gets his name wrong as it's really "Robin Wood".
TheRealPentigan Can... can I use your blurb and write it out cuz dang...I wanna make that
Time traveling Spanish conquistadors
@@TheRealPentigan someone has to wright this
"My extremely subtle sarcasm..."
Oh is this Subtly Sarcastic Productions now?
She's being sarcastic about her level of sarcasm. That's some next level sarcasm there
@@pRahvi0 ikr. It's even funnier because in another video she says she's allergic to subtlety.
Overly subtle sarcastic productions
@@pRahvi0 You could almost say it's... Overly sarcastic.
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1st- I thought Marion as capable and fiesty was a modern addition. I am super excited to learn its not.
2nd- As usual, this is a wonderfully consise and clever summary of all reliable sources. Which is why-
3rd- I am using this to teach my cast basic background as I put on a Stage Production this summer. Thank you for the wonderful resource!
The strangest case of "most of the Merry Men are barely defined, so you can do with them whatever you want" that I came across was a Gargoyles fanfiction that had a time traveling Brooklyn as Will Scarlet. Also, one of the other Merry Men was secretly Puck.
I know this is a very old comment, but is there a way you can remember the title or have a link? That sounds hilarious.
okay puck as a merry man is just amazing and I want more stories with him please
Robin Hood: *gives money to poor person*
Poor Person: Wow! I'm rich!
Robin Hood: *narrows eyes* You're WHAT??
*Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, galloping through the sward...*
We could make a movie out of this •-•
Wow, Imaging copying a meme off of reddit.
@@quive5705 imagine sharing a joke?
“We’re here to steal your money to give it to the poor. But then the poor would be rich so we actually keep all the money for ourselves.”
"Engage your boss in single combat"
Oooohhh, my dad wasn't telling me to shake their hand, it was BREAK their hand! Thanks for clearing that up, Red.
Wtf
And if that fails, _stake_ their hand.
So _that's_ why they always say you need a firm grip.
Well, just in case you may need to *take* their hand.
@@mleppp1546
Proposal leads to nepotism.
12:53 "Very loosely defined" _This is the brilliant Legend of Zelda formula!_ The hero is more lawful good inclined, but otherwise still pretty vague (since the personally of the silent hero is somewhat thrust upon the player in a game), there is a common cast of side characters that can have various supporting casts, and a handful of common villains to choose from, or make up a new one. There is always some plot nonsense (prophecy/divine intervention) to bail the hero out of any situation (or just load save since it's a game and all). *Not to mention the green tunic!*
That “Oh oh no” at the end feels like it was the result of realizing that Robin Hood is the narrative equivalent of a religious figurehead (Jesus, Buddha, name a god from Hindu, Egyptian, Greecoroman, Middle Eastern society). It’s kinda funny in that line of thought. A character who’s story is changed to fit the era it was written in in order to allow more people to be attached to it
More that she realized she is criticizing exactly what she's doing in this video
@@swashhustler1326so that makes her a prophet
@@swashhustler1326 That's just how Red is, and her being herself is what we are here for
Not to mention all the characters he's inspired over the years, such as Green arrow and Link
Murraymon - And Robin from Batman.
Link was actually inspired by Peter pan, though maybe that one was inspired by Robin hood, I dunno
And a bird
Nicarem Peter Pan may have been inspired by Robin Hood?
@@linkadoodle9568 yeah totally
"And why should the people listen to you?"
"Because unlike some other robin hoods, I can speak with english accent."
That's the best Robin Hood movie ever
@@Oracle_
And the disney version, the final heist in that is so damn good,
@@Oracle_the end credits love balad had no business being as good as it was
9:18 "Robin and little john meet on a bridge, neither want to move and robin stabs johns bagpipes."
THAT SAMURAI JACK EPISODE WAS BASED OFF ROBIN HOOD!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
APPARENTLY YES
I've actually realised that throughout the changes of narrative with Robin Hood, his adoration for the Virgin Mary essentially splits up into Marian and King Richard. Marian, as this fair lady that Robin has extreme respect for. While Richard, who as a monarch is appointed by God and vested with divine authority, as well as being known for reclaiming the Holy Land, is constantly seen by Robin as this symbol of God's benevolence and might.
"Great core characters and almost no plot"
So it's a Slice of Life genre. . . .
Well THAT'S a realization that's gonna stick with me like a pocket full of lead.
OH. *OH*
lucky star be like
With SWORDS!
But they also rob people to keep things entertaining.
"extremely subtle sarcasm".
Came off as overly sarcastic to me really.
roll credits
Buh-dunTS!
**Seinfeld theme**
Gunnie I might be the one getting whooshed here, but I believe they just made a pun using the channel’s name. Perhaps it was you who missed the joke, although, I am known to be overly serious sometimes.
@@thedotintheletteri lmao I can relate to this...
My teacher said jokingly that you could make your paper one word
I wrote that down
It was the first day
I wrote one word.
I think an interesting thing that could have been mentioned in this video is: the lore surrounding robin hood may _still_ be changing, several of the newer adaptations (movies/TV series) include robin having fought in the crusades himself (this usually being the reason for his loyalty to lionheart), sometimes leading to a new character we see more and more often: a saracen ends up joining the merry men
I wonder how “palatable” writers really needed to make Robin Hood in the early 1500s considering that the king of England (Henry VIII) at the time was a fanboy who liked to cosplay him (definitely happened in 1510 when he surprised Queen Catherine, pretty sure he was also cosplaying Robin Hood in his disastrous first meeting of Anne of Cleaves). That the “good king” role originated when Henry was king doesn’t seem coincidental though.
So what you're saying is that it's popular because it's prime fanfic material
Yes.
We are making Robin hood fanfic since the XIth century.
I'm kind proud.
You got it in one
Some of our most popular culture can be derived from fanfiction. After all, you can't make something from nothing.
Dark_Tail
For example, Lancelot was someone’s OC do not steal
"See Millennials, getting hired is a snap! First you engage your boss in single combat..."
Red, that's Boomer talk. These days, the boss won't even deign to look at you unless you've had 5 years experience in a fighting style that has only existed for 2.
I see you, too, work in software!
In my experience, I can't afford regulation gloves to slap my prospective boss across the face and so he just ignores me.
Today I learned that corporate has budgeted a job that should have 15+ man days/week with 7 to complete the work even though they have seen us extremely backed up on work when we had 14 man days/week and were pulling labor from other parts of the workplace.
Meanwhile, we spend about 4 times as much for some of our supplies as we should be, and of course, the people making these decisions are micromanaging from another state without ever having worked the job and want no corners cut.
Join the armed forces and they'll teach you whatever you need to know AND get paid doing it. Imaging collage debts that pay you.
It also gives you much needed connections and stand out elements to your resume and interview personality.
Are you kidding? I'll hire you as long as you're capable of doing the work and actually WANT to work! Nobody wants to work!
While Robin Hood falls more into the proprietary of pop culture paganism than anything, I do find the interpretation of him as fae or a trickster god rather intriguing. Like, I can absolutely see that interpretation, and want to wish anyone who does place him into that role a very pleasant day.
But also, why do I now want a story where he just happens upon and hangs out with Loki?
I had an idea for a version of _Robin Hood_ that has Robin and Marian meeting as young children. It was known that the Fae had taken a child with Fae blood into the forest, and some knight went in and took that child back to the human world. That child grew up to be Maid Marian, while the Fae child she had been the playmate of became Robin Hood.
Except at the end of the story, it’s revealed that Marian had been a full Fae all along, and _Robin_ had been the half-fae child brought the forest for her. When Robin Hood is killed by the monk, it’s only his human half that dies, causing him to become a full Fae like Marian. The two return to Faerie for good, along with all the Merry Men who don’t feel like they belong in the human world anymore.
I just find it funny that an entire generation's image of Robin Hood is an anthropomortic fox.
An anthropomorphic fox that they want to @$&#.
That list of Robin in media made me realize he's never really had a major game, which is surprising.
Furry Robin Hood for Kingdom Hearts IV!
There was one in the early 2000's called Legend of Sherwood that was pretty good.
Honestly suprising There was never an Assassins Creed version of Robin Hood
@@BlackFalcon269 that would make the story more dark you know "ASSASIN creed"
@@ValentinoZ999 then again, it would be assassin's creed so maybe not that dark
I had no idea that Maid Marian was written as pretty self sufficient this whole time. That RULES
Always refreshing to know “the strong female character” isnt just modern corporation pandering
I love a vast majority of ancient female characters that actually get mentioned because they are badass as fuck
Meh 😑...just kidding she is pretty cool 😊
@@nicodranasien Yes, I'm watched about myth ofAtlanta and she was also strong female character who not only was a good hunter but also doesn't want to get marriage with men.
She was an adaption of some french myth solely about Marion (about the maid of the spring or whatever), so I guess she had to be proactive to live up to her earlier stories
"Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you historical documentation."
Every Notary Public nods.
So, in other words, Robin Hood is popular, and has managed to remain popular for so long, for roughly the same reason that Touhou Project is popular and has had such amazing staying power: We've got good framework characters, but stories that, even in-universe, are pretty loosely defined, encouraging story tellers to tell _their_ stories of the characters involved and their adventures.
Red: When is everyone going to stop making a compilation of Robin hood's life...Oh no.
Me: That was when Red realized, she screwed up.
MrWarriorace I’m out of the loop. Is she just implying that compilations of Robin Hood’s life might go on forever?
No, it's what she just did.
bump
I think it's because that's what this video did.
@@joshuahunt3032 It's an implied realization that she's become part of the problem, i.e. asking when people are going to stop making compilations of Robin Hood's life in her summarized compilation of Robin Hood's life.
robin hood: clever, cunning, good at trickery, portrayed as a hero, gets into sticky situations but is helped by his allies, isn’t indestructible but achieves some great victories, leader of a crew
therefore robin hood = english odysseus
Not quite. Robin Hood's Merry Men aren't a bunch of contrarian idiots.
@@adamloga3788 I see you are a fellow pro Aeneas and his crew type then. SPQR > Greek.
almost
robin hood isn't the only smart one
and they both have famous tales about a bow and arrow
aka the medieval spiderman
Having gone back after watching some of the trope talks it's neat to see the 5 man band as a core concept for Robin Hood with only John being the one really defined into a Powerhouse/Lancer combo.
Meanwhile I can never abandon the feeling that Prince John got the short end of the rope. He was the guy that introduce innovation to economics, managing to fund a very costly war while reclaiming Normandy, while his brother spent his entire reign doing crusades, getting capchured (later to be bought out by John) and generally wasting his kingdom's money
But don't forget that John was the catalyst for the Magna Carta and the forerunner of rights for all people, not just the wealthy. He was that bad that both peasant and noble ganged up on him to beat him.
John didn't buy Richard's ransom, not only it would make NO SENSE, as he usurped him, he also attempted to bribe Duke Leopold to not release him with the help of King Philip II of France. His skilled administration didn't mean shit when he still alienated the nobility AND the commoners for losing very costly campaigns against France (campaigns that, btw, were meant to get back the lands HE SEIZED to Philip II) _and_ getting his ass excomunicated by the Pope (which was a VERY big deal at the time). And while Richard for all his faults was at least noted to be good-humoured and charismatic, John was considered to be a huge asshole, and cruel even for medieval standards as evidenced when he starved Maud de Braose and (depending on the version) either her husband or son to death for incurring his wrath.
(Dunno why my previous comment disappeared) Nah, you don't need to feel bad for him. First things first, you have to remember that the Magna Carta happened _for a reason_ his innovations didn't mean shit when he still got his ass kicked trying to reclaim Normandy and other french lands, the same costly wars that you mentioned in fact! So you can imagine how the people felt who had to put up with the taxes meant to fund these disastrous campaigns felt. The fact that he got excommunicated in a fiercely catholic era also didn't help matters.
And by the way, John did NOT buy his brother, I seriously wonder who invented this nonsense and why people believe in this, John USURPED him, ask yourself, why, in all that is holy and sacred, WOULD AN USURPER WANT THE RIGHTFUL HEIR THAT HE GOT RID OF, BACK?!! He and King Philip II even tried to bribe Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI in order to keep him away for more time!
Also, it's not difficult to find chroniclers thinking of him as a huge prick; something that constrasts Richard, who, for all his faults, was seen as good-humoured and charismatic. John was considered to be cruel even by medieval people, which is a REAL achievement in an era where people could be punished by getting flayed alive, like Richard's murderer! Maud de Braose, a former court favorite of John, after incurring his wrath was infamously locked in a dungeon of Corfe Castle, while sources differ on whether she was with her husband or son, what is known _is that they starved to death_ the specific source that says she got locked up with her son says SHE ATE THE FLESH OF HER SON'S CHEEKS. So yeah, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him, quite the opposite!
Maid Marion: *is self reliant, useful, physically capable, has personality, & has healthy supportive relationship w/ leading man*
Me: *learning when Marion was created* Was this even legal-
To be fair, she does often flip off the law to go be an outlaw with Robin Hood so
Given that this is the story of an outlaw and his band of merry outlaws, it is safe to assume very little involved was legal.
@@eric619 I don't know yet if I hate you or want to start a long-distance relationship with you but your comment should be illegal
@@june9914 Depends: do I want to know what it means?
Freedom Fighter it’s a form of romance that’s more akin to a rivalry
How in the ever-loving hell have we never seen a modern interpretation of Robin Hood where Marian goes undercover and kicks Robin's ass in a swordfight??
Because the writers are cowards who got beaten up by girls in elementary school.
They did do something like that in Prince of Theives, she did fight him in that one, she was undercover as a personal bodyguard or a knight, I forget which.
Because... Patriarchy :)
Well...The Green Arrow is solidly based on Robin Hood and Black Canary and him occasionally skirmish with minor wins on both sides. Black Canary, as an outlaw badass, isn't hugely from Marian...so, kind of?
@@HaydenX wait, Ollie has WON one of those? I love Ollie, but Dinah kicks his ass in hand to hand without really trying. Dinah is in the top 7-8 hand to hand combatants in all of DC, only Conner Hawk, Shiva, Bruce, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon and Val Armorr being better then she is. Possibly Bronze Tiger, but that fight can go either way.
She must be taking pity on Ollie's ego and letting him win a little.
Seeing a recent review of the Disney movie, I recalled one major issue with the Robin Hood as pro-socialism or pro-communism thing: the biggest thing Robin Hood fought against was the taxes of the time. A man opposing high taxes is in many ways more in line with capitalism than socialism or communism.
yes and no. One problem we have is how quickly we project the modern world backgrounds. A tax collector in medieval England was...not the fairest human being. Today, taxes are based on your circumstances. Back then, the tax collector did not give a fuck. Bad harvest? Too bad, pay the king. Son died fighting in the king's war? Thank you for your sacrifice, now pay the king. Medieval tax collection was closer to a mob shakedown than anything else.
Additionally, Robin Hood was a yeoman awaiting for the return of the "good" King Richard. Trying to disassociate from the government of the time as a yeoman would seems a bit too libertarian for a modern socialist to me. And being PRO-monarchy? Being against the Prince "revolutionising" how England was run up to this point with his taxes and fellow corrupt allies in the palaces and churches? That's unacceptable says the communist stooge, to the gulag with you!
Robin Hood is not a socialist hero, even when you divorce him from the nobleman of Loxley background.
This is just making me think Robin Hood is just someone’s OC in a DnD campaign with his buddies
The hilarious thing about Robin Hood's popularity is that, from the stories I've read, he really wasn't robbing in order to to give to the poor.
Sure, he had a big heart, and he would often go way out of his way to help total strangers, but he was robbing the rich for money (and also because he was a restless scoundrel). It's just that he was smart enough to spread enough of that wealth around that all of the locals "super couldn't find his hideout" and "totally hadn't seen him pass through just now."
Madlad.
Basically. On top of that he need supplies so he offered good prices to people. Not that he was giving them anything in literal sense.
He's a D&D adventurer !
Yes, yeeees!!! Bribe the witnesses and kill the ones that don’t cooperate!
Lol
D&d adventuring 0.1
@@vukkulvar9769 D&D is essentially the mythical equivalent of the modern video game industry, so it makes sense it would draw from classical folktales in such a big way.
Also he didn’t just steal from the rich, he specifically stole from corrupt author figures including tax collectors and bishops
Robinhood: *gives a stolen fortune to his poor friends*
Friend: "wow thanks! I'm rich!"
Robinhood: *narrows eyes* "you're what?"
"Am I just a joke to you..."
"I'm rich in the good wa- wait, why are you pulling out your bow? It's only the two of us here...Wait, Robin? ROBIN?!"
"What I meant to say is that I'm a good king, and you're pardon. haha don't kill me."
Communism at its finest.
@@lego007guym8 lol no
Something I think should be known, as I personally find it quite interesting...
See, Robin Hood is an amazing folk tale, with an amazing set of characters... But I wanted to find out just WHO Robin Hood was. Where did his story start? What led to the creation of the character of Robin Hood? Well, I ended up learning this... From a very unlikely source.
So, do you know the game "Persona 5"? In it, the main characters actually have these powers that come from these things called- well- Personas that emerge from their soul. Normally, they're based on deities, but in Persona 5, they're first based on fictional characters that were well known thieves, as that fit the theme of the game. Normally, in the games, there was this thing known as 'Awakening', where the Persona would effectively evolve, becoming something completely different. In this case, they would become deific figures who, in some way shape or form, had been to hell and got out safe and sound. Susano'o, Anat, Son Wukong (referred to by his alias, Saiten Taisei), and so on.
However, in Persona 5 Royal, there were third awakenings, which not only provided remastered looks for the previous Personas, but also the original names of the characters that became the fictional thieves from before. For example, one such character uses Captain Kidd as his Persona, who eventually becomes the aforementioned Saiten Taisei, who then evolves into William, Obviously referring to the pirate William Kidd. One such character started out using the Persona of Robin Hood, and in his third awakening, the Persona becomes someone known has 'Hereward'. This interested me, so I did some digging...
Appaerently, the story of Robin Hood POSSIBLY began with an Anglo-Saxon by the name of Hereward the Wake (yes, his Epithet is 'The Wake'. Do with that what you will), a nobleman who lead the resistance against the Norman Conquest of England, which lead to him becoming an outlaw in England. Now, I say POSSIBLY, because we don't actually KNOW if this is true. We just know that he is the most prominent take on the rebellious soldier in the area at that time, and what with the existence of William the Conqueror at the time, the idea isn't so farfetched.
The flexibility of RH's character and the stories that have sprung therefrom reminds of a very cheap film about (the now elderly) Robin Hood's child with Maid Marian, who must rescue him from one final attempt at vengeance by the disgraced, former Sheriff of Nottingham. It was a bad movie, but there was one scene in it I absolutely loved.
The ex-Sheriff has Robin on the rack, torturing him for the sheer thrill of it. Robin remains stoically silent, refusing to give him the satisfaction. At one point, he starts croaking incoherently. The Sheriff leans closer, gleefully expecting Robin to beg for his life.
Robin instead whispers, "You have egg in your beard."
So, you're telling me Robin Hood made most of his friends by losing in a fight? Is he the anti-anime protagonist then?
Omg midoria from mha. I didnt realize
Shut up kokichi
Interestingly enough, at least in the older sources, Robin Hood was never an extraordinary combatant. Most of his skill was sneaking, ambushing, disguising, and his charisma. While he was a good archer, it wasn’t uncommon for English peasants to own and use bows.
Later, in the 27th century:
“Made by a group called DreamWorks, which was the rival animation group to Pixar, Disney’s group, which is why you’ve never heard of them.”
😂lmao
That's almost perfect. Unfortunately, Shrek.
How do they explain Shrek?
For those of you asking about Shrek, it’s already on its way out of popularity.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon No, Shrek is experiencing a surge of popularity
Speaking of the movies about Robin Hood, the animated version is will forever have a place in my heart
Red: "Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you historical documentation"
LOL true that.
Robin Hood: Here have some money
Peasant: I am rich!
Robin Hood: This is a robery.
Lmao
"Blimey, this redistribution of wealth business is trickier than I thought!"
You'd think he'd at least give them a 5 min. head start.
He’s got a system
Boom orange juice that’s life !
You know all those really bad paintings and drawings that don’t look like humans? Do you think in like 500yrs that people will see anime and think that we thought ppl looked like that?
Consider even back then cavemen used to bust nuts on a *T H I C C* Statue that looks awfully like your typical *T H I C C* waifu... Yeah they probably would.
@@magosexploratoradeon6409 ..................................................... dude..... ancient alien theorists think those statues are aliens when theyre actually cave hentai
LordOfThe Flightless omg are you serious
we’ll all be dead in half a millennia, so, no.
@@batvaleska what are you talking about
That “oh...oh no” at the end. Just gonna say it, that’s the highlight for me!
I love osp so much but as somebody who listens to them with high volume in the car so I don't miss the talking parts, I am SO GLAD there aren't as many music jump scares in the newer things.
"So, Robin and John meet in the middle of a bridge."
Huh, kinda like Samurai Ja-
*that exact clip from Samurai Jack*
OOOOH SHE DID THE THING GUYS!
*Insert TFS Hellsing Reference here*
And now I'm wondering if Little John actually did have a set of bagpipes originally and that was also brought along in the Samurai Jack episode.
Partigrade Cannon
Nah they just played bloody knuckles.
Wait that was men in tights. Never mind.
@uncletigger you do realize I'm placing Samurai Jack first because I SAW it first, and the whole point of this comment was that the Robin Hood story, which I encountered second, reminded me of the Samurai Jack segment, which I encountered first, right?
@@Azzabackam It doesn't matter what you saw first. You do realize that the tale of Robin and John appeared 400 years before than the samurai jack knockoff ? Really, turn off the tv and read more books
"Oh. Oh no" When you realise you're doing the exact thing you're saying people need to stop doing
Yes, this was the joke. Nothing gets by you
@@RandomZydeco Nothing gets past me. I would catch it.
Thanks! I didn't get it at first :D
Tbh I thought that that’s what the joke was, but I wasn’t completely certain so thank you for pointing it out even though it was obvious to most people.
Oh ok, i got confused at the end there.
Red: *Uses Ghost Love Story as her Sectional music*
Me: "Ah, an egghead of culture."
That’s what it is! It’s been driving me crazy trying to work out which Nightwish song it was.
"And then maybe Robin dies."
So, maybe he's still alive somewhere?
King Arthur & his knights: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
Robin Hood & the Merry Men: LADS! LADS! LADS!
The Virgin Round Table Knights vs the Chad Merry Men
Me and the lads robbing the rich and giving to the poor
So robin hood and the merry men are bros while king Arthur and his knights are civilized
@@ajaycease6542 I don't think the knights could bd called "civilized"
Pretty sure the We Happy Few quote was from Henry V not Knights of the Round Table
The fact that red realized that throughout history we have been writing fanfiction and will continue to do so till the end of time☺️🤣
Before copyright was invented, they just called it fiction. ;)
I gave this a lot of thought on her videos about Greek Mythology. It really is just fan-canon, headcanon, constructed stories, etc.
*Every piece of religious art is fan art. *
I think one of my favourite renditions of Robin Hood in all the media I know of/have consumed is the way he is in the Fate series, mostly because thing where no one knows the true definitive story about him is a BIG THING for his character. When "Robin Hood" is summoned into the modern world, the character that is gotten is just some guy who fit the description (wears green, good at archery, veigly British) and went by the name "Robin Hood" for a certain period of time. This Robin Hood doesn't have anything to do with the Sheriff of Nottingham or any of the allies that Robin is known for having, all because the concept of Robin Hood is so ingrained in british culture that any green-cloaked thief who lives in the woods and is a good archer was just called Robin Hood.
They made five versions of this folktale in the first decade of silent films being a thing?? That's incredible! It feels like a slightly more indepth note on WHY the story seemed so popular/relatable at that time would have been super interesting...?
“Steal from the rich and give to the poor”
Robin Hood: “Well I AM poor”
Pretty sure he didn't rob the rich because they were rich. He robbed the Sheriff and Archbishop because they were oppressive and overtaxing the people. He also poached the King's Deer.
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 from what I remember, he robbed them because ...
1) to humble them, you may have an honourable role but you are still accountable to the people and you should never forget that.
2) he still needs to pay his men, they aren't working for free
Robin hood: Here's the money from the rich!
The poor: Wow, we are rich!
Robin hood:... Wait!
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 THANK YOU!!!
Sheriff of Nottingham: "LOCKSLEY!!! I'm gonna cut your heart out with a SPOON!"
Later...
Guy of Gisborne: "Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe or--"
Sheriff of Nottingham: "BECAUSE IT'S DULL, YOU TWIT! IT'LL HURT MORE!"
Mitch Neu RIP Alan Rickman
That reminds me of the spoon killer trailer
Best line delivery ever
Points for creativity.
Actually because it's dull, it will require far more pressure to injure the one you're trying to injure than with a sharper object. It will be an essentially useless attempt that might end in failure.
I love robin hood retellings, some of my favorites are:
Scarlet series- Main character is Will Scarlet who just happens to be Maid Miriam.
No Good Dead- Time travel is involved and the main character is a female Robin Hood.
Forest Queen- A lot of gender roles get swapped and some characters are not even human(They are owls)
Hood- Probably my favorite, Main character is the daughter of Maid Miriam and Robin Hood, focuses on the second generation.
Ooh, I may have to check these out, they sound very interesting! I read an adaptation where Will Scarlet was the main character (I think it was literally called "Will in Scarlet" but it's been a very long time, so don't quote me on that, lol), and I've been intrigued by Robin Hood adaptations ever since.
Archeologists years from now will dig up robin hood texts and talk abt how we worshiped Robinhood as a deity so much snd even though his story changed the jist and the fact that he was the god of foolery will never change
The end was her realizing she is being a hypocrite
-she is fine
Correction: AMAZING AWSOME INCREDIBLE
Ahhh, thanks for that. I was confused by the ending.
that explains a lot, thanks
Yeah.
Yeah that wasn't really clear to me.
I don’t think it’s really hypocrisy, more just irony.
"Robin hood and Lil Jon walking through the forest."
"YEAH!!!"
"Laughin' back and forth at what the other'ne has to say."
"WHAT?"
"Reminiscin' this'n'that'n havin' such a good time, oo-de-lally oo-de-lally golly what a day."
"OK!"
Lil Jon... I get it.
Bless you for this.
Quality Comment 😂
@@daniellemhall1358 Took me a while, thanks for your comment.
Ah, see what you did there.
I've put this video in my "Advice" playlist mainly as a reminder 'cause dang! I never Robin Hood is a folklore model for writers to draw inspiration from and even just appreciate. I'm really glad that you made this video! 🤩
She’s right! I love writing and I have done almost an entire story about his daughter and I literally can add any info I want because there are no sold sources! It’s AMAZING!
Robin Hood: Rogue
Little John: Fighter
Will Scarlet: Swashbuckler
Alan-a-Dale: Bard
Much, the Miller's Son: [REDACTED]
Friar Tuck: Cleric
Uuuummmm.......
I dont like that redacted. 😟
I'd say Allan A Dale fits bard more. He is known as the traveling minstrel
sad Ranger noises
...
Just make a Fighter with a bow, it's way better!
Maid Marian?
Much is Alpharius
"When are people going to stop trying to create a single cohesive narrative of this charact..."
suddenly realizes that is exactly what she is doing
"...oh".
Notices a joke in the video
Thinks he came up with it himself
Posts it in the comments
Is a Comedy Man
now it's 5
I was scrolling through the comments looking for what that "ohhh" meant thank you
Owen DeCarlo you weren’t the only one who missed it, this has been an incredibly helpful comment
MrSamulai you seem to not know the difference between highlighting a joke from the video and taking credit for a joke from the video. You have my pity 😏
Leverage really is a modern adaption of Robin Hood, isn’t it? Not just with the ‘steal from the rich’ thing, but Nate coming from the elite originally only to leave when they failed him and bringing the whole team together. Sophie is Marian, Elliot is Little John, Hardinson is Alan-A-Del, and Parker is Will Scarlet (or maybe Much as she’s kinda childish). And Stirling pretty much plays the role of the sheriff
I’ve watched this several times, but the “oh no” at the end is so perfect it still gets me
In other words:
Professionals. Have. Standards.
Be polite
Be efficient.
And have a plan to kill everyone you meet!
dad...dad!...put...put mum on the phone.
James P says the guy that throws jars of piss. Lol. Don’t hate me, snipers my favorite character in tf2.
what i got out of this: robin hood is basically fan fiction now
With no copyright! *runs off to write the female reboot of Robin Hood!*
@@IliyaMoroumetz do it.... or just give the idea to DW so we can have a female Robin hood or Maid Marion in FGO
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 They already have Robin Hood in game. Looks kinda mediocre, truth be told.
@@IliyaMoroumetz we know, we want Servant versions of Robin Hood's Merry men
Has been since his inception
Let's not overlook the obvious: part of the fun of Robin Hood is that he's really really really good at a cool skill. That also explains the appeal of Hawkeye and Green Arrow, who have the additional coolness factor of being really really really good at an OBSOLETE skill and still besting people with modern weaponry.
All this "getting a job is so easy," but it's circular. I need to fight my boss in hand-to-hand combat to get a job, but I need a job to have a boss to combat!
I really really like the tale where Marian kicks his ass in swords and then they live happily ever after. You could say I have a type
Are you familiar with the T.V show Maid Marian And Her Merry Men?
“I like a girl that could kick my ass”
Does that make Marian a shounen protagonist?
Emperor Flick Imagine a shounen series about Marian 👌
@@bananasinfrench Somebody should write it.
“See, Millennials, getting hired is a snap! First you just engage your boss in single comba-“ The cutoff made that even funnier.
Red has the BEST comedic timing I love it XD
@@Verity58 Yup, one of the many reasons this is my favourite youtube channel. XD
the irony of the "pull yourself up with your bootstraps" phrase is its supposed to show how impossible it is to get out of poverty since lifting yourself up with yourself is impossible
Tell that to Baron Munchausen. He did it by his hair.
My mom works at a college library and she sends books to other places in the world. A while ago she got a request from a college in Notre dam for a book called “Robin Hood and Friar Tuck: Zombie Killers”
*bill wurtz voice*
"you could make a religion out of th-" "no dont."
You can make a government system out of th- no don't
How bout i do anyway
*USSR* falls apart
"He steals from the rich and gives to the needy. He takes a percentage, but he's not greedy" (Shrek)
He rescues pretty damsels, man he's good!
What a guy, Monsieur Hooooooood
break it down.
@@kayleighbrown459 He likes an honest fight and a saucy little maid.
“But he’s basically saying that he likes to get...”
Paid!
I love combining Beowulf, Arthurian legends, and Robin hood stories like they are part of the same universe haha
Wait, are they not?!
15:10 Nice subtle use of Kissed By a Rose. Leitmotif!!