Got to love that Robin is such a devout catholic he has to sneak into mass, then gets discovered because he's not so devout that he hasn't already robbed the monks of this church before.
Most of the leaders in the old timey church were devout religious folk. Mostly thirdborns that bought a slot of comfort under the name of bishop. With the disinterest and noble faffery therein.
To be fair the church was majorly corrupt and fleeced everyone amassing more wealth than any Christian should have. Besides Jesus himself said It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, so Robin was just looking out for them and trying to save their souls.
I love how the joke of "Little John" being an incredibly large & burly man has seemingly remained consistent since the character's creation. The people know a good joke when they hear it.
Fun fact: in the Disney version, the sheriff, Prince John, and Sir Hiss are all based on real Disney executives who took over the studio after Walt Disney died. These three were apparently super hated by everyone - including Disney himself back when he was alive, who declared that opening his company to investors was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Wait, so you're telling me "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" is barely a hundred years old, while "Maid Marion is kind of a badass" goes back to the seventeenth century?
I mean, surprising but not too surprising. Some things are much older than people in modern times imagine(not helped that historians in certain eras(victorian era is really bad about that in general :P ) try to make things fit their own world view)
Technically there is many bandits who stealing from if not downright fighting oppressive lords help local populations (beside Rogue Hood I also know Slavic Janosik, but there is way more then that). But it rarely was due to noble values though some peasant rebellions were also morally justified. Anyway this detail become vogue during modern times, so it was simplified "stealing from the rich and giving to poor" instead more proper "stealing from nobility, what they steal from you on the fist place, but at the same time you are the poor for who you stealing it back, so it isn't also not exactly that noble itself".
I've tried to find cool fanart of Marion being badass, but all that comes up is the Disney version. No, google, HUMAN, I want HUMAN MAID MARION GOOGLE, GODDAMMIT!
@@tedcomet3121 That itself wasn't a problem. Problem was that they commonly spend those taxes on luxuries, when they people starved. Incompetent rules commonly birth the rebellion.
As someone who does live history and is constantly trying to figure out what the average bloke lived like instead of the well documented lords and kings, I feel this quote in my soul.
Took a lit class in college exclusively about Robin Hood. We watched several of the adaptations, including Prince of Thieves. There's a scene where Robin Hood is "showering" under a waterfall and everyone is dead silent just watching the movie and one of the guys who'd never spoken all semester piped up and said: "I went 27 years without seeing Kevin Costner's ass." And even the professor lost her shit.
I just. I love the version of Maid Marian who's like, "Oh no my boyfriend got exiled, guess I'd better just grab my hiking boots and tramp on into the wilds to find him" and then she's like "Oh no, a recent but already well-known outlaw, guess I'll just beat his ass" and then SHE DOES. And HE LIKES IT. Between this and Little John I think Robin Hood just adores people who can wreck his shit, which, honestly, same.
*Maid Marian* : I want a nice guy who’s cool, charitable and respects women. *Robin Hood* : I want a girlfriend who can not only kick my ass but would do so upon request
Red: "See Millennials, gettin' a job isn't that hard, just engage your boss in single combat-" Me, under my breath like a hermit: "Defeat them and they'll join your party, video games have trained us for this!"
Select your weapon: *Katana* Special abilities: Make you look like a weeb Drawbacks: In bad condition *Old English Broadsword* Special abilities: If you get one hit to the head it’s an insta-kill Drawbacks: You require a base strength stat of 18 or above to wield this weapon. *Plastic Lightsaber* Special abilities: You can actually use this with your current stats. Also can compact to fit in smaller spaces. Drawbacks: Does 0.5 damage
And a character that sticks it to the man and helps the poor can be used in any setting. Modern day people could use him to steal from governments and big business CEOs and give to poor people on the streets.
Fun fact: shooting an arrow through another arrow that is already on the target and splitting that on-target arrow in half in the process is called Robin Hooding, kind of obvious how that name came to be but yeah, not only is he the forever dashing and cunning rogue but he is also the most stylish archery champion, so much so that the coolest way to win an archery competition is named after him.
@@khoatran-pc6tb it’s really hard to do with modern fibreglass arrow shafts and field tips, since fibreglass shatters rather than split, which is made worse by the field tip’s round, non-cutting design
@@MantraMan2077 I mean, you're not hard enough to cause the fiberglass to shatter, even if the arrow hits one of your bones. Besides, with fiberglass you don't have to worry about splinters. And also, fiberglass tends to be straighter and more flexible, so it'll be easier to extract, a wooden shaft might not be completely straight and might snap inside of you, which would make you wish you actually died from the shot than having to live through getting it extracted.
I want to see a King Arthur/Robin Hood mashup, written by Red and Blue. No, it won't make any historical sense. That's not the point, not even a little.
King Arthur comes back from his healing centuries on the isle of the fae to see that Britain is in a sorry state with robber barons and callous kings and sherrifs who care little for their people. Without his usual resources, any clue who might be descendants of his Knights and no sign of Merlin, he assembles a new circle of allies to try and knock the authority down a peg. The consistent joke is that he keeps claiming to be King Arthur but noone takes it seriously, not even his own Merry Men.
Robin Hood is a character in the "Sword in the Stone" portion of "The Once and Future King" where he's an adult while King Arthur is still a kid. He doesn't do much outside of complaining about how everyone gets his name wrong as it's really "Robin Wood".
Watching this again a year later, I think we all forgot the very important factor that Robin Hood sits very comfortably in a position where he can fit into literally anyone's moral code. Religious? Robin Hood fits. Anti-Taxation or hate big government? Robin Hood fits. Don't like authority figures? Robin Hood fits. Patriotic despite the government? Robin Hood fits. I don't know a single person who dislikes Robin Hood because you can reasonably fit him into almost every world view. I've seen well thought out arguments that this dude would, in modern day, be a libertarian, a communist, a conservative, a liberal, even a monarchist or authoritarian due to his opposition to bad kings in favor of good ones. I don't think a figure exists that is so malleable he can fit into almost any world view in a positive light outside of Jesus Christ.
That is a really good point. He has been rewritten so many times from so many points of view that it really does just come down to what stories you choose to focus on.
@@wjzav1971 Robin is literally a Catholic in the most well-known stories. Also if you actually pay attention to what Jesus says in the Bible, he's very against the hoarding of wealth and says it's almost impossible for a rich person to get into Heaven. So Robin Hood fits with that angle.
@@FirstLast-wk3kc Robin Hood is just like Jesus in that regard. There are literally many retellings of his story, many people admire him and thus try to fit him into THEIR world views
@@nicodranasien Yes, I'm watched about myth ofAtlanta and she was also strong female character who not only was a good hunter but also doesn't want to get marriage with men.
She was an adaption of some french myth solely about Marion (about the maid of the spring or whatever), so I guess she had to be proactive to live up to her earlier stories
The hilarious thing about Robin Hood's popularity is that, from the stories I've read, he really wasn't robbing in order to to give to the poor. Sure, he had a big heart, and he would often go way out of his way to help total strangers, but he was robbing the rich for money (and also because he was a restless scoundrel). It's just that he was smart enough to spread enough of that wealth around that all of the locals "super couldn't find his hideout" and "totally hadn't seen him pass through just now." Madlad.
@@vukkulvar9769 D&D is essentially the mythical equivalent of the modern video game industry, so it makes sense it would draw from classical folktales in such a big way.
Ive noticed that Robin Hood and Sun Wukong have a lot of similarities as characteristics and their respective personalities, and honestly I just love that
Honestly, I’d watch/read that. The two just doing random things, especially with Wukong’s shape shifting and duplicating. Makes for unique story beats at least
@BigJoeKnows Well... [Similarities] *Robyn Hode (Robin Hood) & Sun Wukong* 1) Both are Cunning, Mischievous & have Creative Planning 2) Both aren't against Lying, Stealing & Killing for Survival/Practicality 3) Both are Generally Unruly & Prefer/Desire Freedom 4) Both Care for Those They see as Allies/Family [Differences] *14th to 15th Century, Robyn Hode* 1) Mostly Chaotic Good 2) Has Clear Strict & Specific Morals 3) Less Rude & Apathetic Towards Others 4) Is 100% Devoted to Virgin Mary & Loyal to the (True) King *1592 Xiyouji Novel, Sun Wukong* 1) Primarily Chaotic Neutral (later on becomes Chaotic Good) 2) Morally Grey & Inconsistent (ESPECIALLY during Chapter 14 - 56) 3) More Impulsive & Boastful 4) FAR more Aggressive, Merciless & Violent! 5) Has Respect for Guanyin but isn't 100% Obedient to Her!
1st- I thought Marion as capable and fiesty was a modern addition. I am super excited to learn its not. 2nd- As usual, this is a wonderfully consise and clever summary of all reliable sources. Which is why- 3rd- I am using this to teach my cast basic background as I put on a Stage Production this summer. Thank you for the wonderful resource!
Maid Marion: *is self reliant, useful, physically capable, has personality, & has healthy supportive relationship w/ leading man* Me: *learning when Marion was created* Was this even legal-
robin hood: clever, cunning, good at trickery, portrayed as a hero, gets into sticky situations but is helped by his allies, isn’t indestructible but achieves some great victories, leader of a crew therefore robin hood = english odysseus
* all of the robins hood arguing over moral codes and methods * * absolutely loaded nobleman walks by * * arguing abruptly halts, as all robins hood mischievously grin in unison *
Gunnie I might be the one getting whooshed here, but I believe they just made a pun using the channel’s name. Perhaps it was you who missed the joke, although, I am known to be overly serious sometimes.
@@thedotintheletteri lmao I can relate to this... My teacher said jokingly that you could make your paper one word I wrote that down It was the first day I wrote one word.
"The shockingly self-reliant Maid Marian" I can remember being like 6 and noticing how much more fun Marian was in a story than most damsels I'd been exposed to at the time.
Well yeah. Need to come up with a morality story about greed and sharing for your kids and don't have anything off the top of your head? Spin some tale of Robin teaching the lesson to a peasant who stumbled into a huge windfall, boom, kids learn their lessons and there's a new Robin Hood story out there.
Having Maid Marion go out in disguise, fight Robin is a full on swordfight and actually beating him, sounds like something a modern writer would do, so imagine my surprise to find out that its from a hundreds of years old version of the story
@uncletigger you do realize I'm placing Samurai Jack first because I SAW it first, and the whole point of this comment was that the Robin Hood story, which I encountered second, reminded me of the Samurai Jack segment, which I encountered first, right?
@@Azzabackam It doesn't matter what you saw first. You do realize that the tale of Robin and John appeared 400 years before than the samurai jack knockoff ? Really, turn off the tv and read more books
Interestingly, as Maid Marian becomes more important in the stories, Robin Hood's devotion to the Virgin Mary is written out. I guess this lore isn't big enough for *two* inspiring female models for the hero.
@@samrevlej9331 Actually, I wonder if some writer heard about "his devotion to Mary" and completely misinterpreted that and as a result Maid Marion was invented. It can't be a coincidence they have such similar names.
@@JaelinBezel ... I think it's a bit of a stretch, as "devotion to Mary" would immediately have been understood to mean the Virgin Mary, since they were living in a religious society. I just think that as morals and cultural norms shifted, it became morally okay and more engaging plot-wise to give him a love interest that could temporally replace Robin's spiritual devotion to Mary.
@@samrevlej9331 Well, England did turn from Catholic to Anglican and the Anglicans were not cool with venerating Mary. I thought that’s why the spiritual devotion to Mary was cut off, considering that Robin Hood was popular among the average folk at the time.
HOT TAKE: Later versions of the story, when Robin's dedication to the Virgin Mary starts to become less important to the story now have a new character, MAID MARIAN. Virgin Mary, Maid Marian, both important women that Robin is dedicated to in the story. It all fits! (This literally popped into my head while making fajitas and I had to comment on it right away.)
Huh. Never thought of that. That actually makes sense, especially since his homeland eventually became aggressively Anti-Catholic and thus, rebranding him was important.
How in the ever-loving hell have we never seen a modern interpretation of Robin Hood where Marian goes undercover and kicks Robin's ass in a swordfight??
They did do something like that in Prince of Theives, she did fight him in that one, she was undercover as a personal bodyguard or a knight, I forget which.
Well...The Green Arrow is solidly based on Robin Hood and Black Canary and him occasionally skirmish with minor wins on both sides. Black Canary, as an outlaw badass, isn't hugely from Marian...so, kind of?
@@HaydenX wait, Ollie has WON one of those? I love Ollie, but Dinah kicks his ass in hand to hand without really trying. Dinah is in the top 7-8 hand to hand combatants in all of DC, only Conner Hawk, Shiva, Bruce, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon and Val Armorr being better then she is. Possibly Bronze Tiger, but that fight can go either way. She must be taking pity on Ollie's ego and letting him win a little.
That “Oh oh no” at the end feels like it was the result of realizing that Robin Hood is the narrative equivalent of a religious figurehead (Jesus, Buddha, name a god from Hindu, Egyptian, Greecoroman, Middle Eastern society). It’s kinda funny in that line of thought. A character who’s story is changed to fit the era it was written in in order to allow more people to be attached to it
Tbh I thought that that’s what the joke was, but I wasn’t completely certain so thank you for pointing it out even though it was obvious to most people.
12:53 "Very loosely defined" _This is the brilliant Legend of Zelda formula!_ The hero is more lawful good inclined, but otherwise still pretty vague (since the personally of the silent hero is somewhat thrust upon the player in a game), there is a common cast of side characters that can have various supporting casts, and a handful of common villains to choose from, or make up a new one. There is always some plot nonsense (prophecy/divine intervention) to bail the hero out of any situation (or just load save since it's a game and all). *Not to mention the green tunic!*
Now i kinda wanna see a Link who has a deep distrust of authority and always gives Zelda the evil eye during their first few encounters and is furious with himself when he realises henlikes her.
Fun fact: since that joke wouldn't work in other language dubs, they would insert another jab at Costner. For example: "Unlike other Robin Hoods, I don't dance with wolves."
I've actually realised that throughout the changes of narrative with Robin Hood, his adoration for the Virgin Mary essentially splits up into Marian and King Richard. Marian, as this fair lady that Robin has extreme respect for. While Richard, who as a monarch is appointed by God and vested with divine authority, as well as being known for reclaiming the Holy Land, is constantly seen by Robin as this symbol of God's benevolence and might.
"See Millennials, getting hired is a snap! First you engage your boss in single combat..." Red, that's Boomer talk. These days, the boss won't even deign to look at you unless you've had 5 years experience in a fighting style that has only existed for 2.
Today I learned that corporate has budgeted a job that should have 15+ man days/week with 7 to complete the work even though they have seen us extremely backed up on work when we had 14 man days/week and were pulling labor from other parts of the workplace. Meanwhile, we spend about 4 times as much for some of our supplies as we should be, and of course, the people making these decisions are micromanaging from another state without ever having worked the job and want no corners cut.
Join the armed forces and they'll teach you whatever you need to know AND get paid doing it. Imaging collage debts that pay you. It also gives you much needed connections and stand out elements to your resume and interview personality.
I wonder how “palatable” writers really needed to make Robin Hood in the early 1500s considering that the king of England (Henry VIII) at the time was a fanboy who liked to cosplay him (definitely happened in 1510 when he surprised Queen Catherine, pretty sure he was also cosplaying Robin Hood in his disastrous first meeting of Anne of Cleaves). That the “good king” role originated when Henry was king doesn’t seem coincidental though.
Later, in the 27th century: “Made by a group called DreamWorks, which was the rival animation group to Pixar, Disney’s group, which is why you’ve never heard of them.”
You know all those really bad paintings and drawings that don’t look like humans? Do you think in like 500yrs that people will see anime and think that we thought ppl looked like that?
Consider even back then cavemen used to bust nuts on a *T H I C C* Statue that looks awfully like your typical *T H I C C* waifu... Yeah they probably would.
@@magosexploratoradeon6409 ..................................................... dude..... ancient alien theorists think those statues are aliens when theyre actually cave hentai
Best Robin Hood adaptations: "Men in Tights" and the episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" where Q makes the crew act the legend. Honorable Mention: The "Doctor Who" episode where he meets him and spends the entire time trying to say he isn't real.
Men in Tights really is the best Robin Hood movie ever. "And why should the people listen to you?" "Because, unlike some other Robin Hoods... I can speak with an English accent."
I agree with “men in tights” (tIGHt tights) but personally the doctor who episode was better than the next generation episode, mainly for the sheer comedy of the arguments
Also, been watching a lot of your vids about mythology today. Seems like Robin Hood is what a lot of ancient myths were like back in the day (see: Loki, Hades and Persephone, etc), but the invention of the printing press means that the myth fossilized (to use your term, which is perfect) in that incomplete, nebulous form rather than in a more defined place.
Sheriff of Nottingham: "LOCKSLEY!!! I'm gonna cut your heart out with a SPOON!" Later... Guy of Gisborne: "Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe or--" Sheriff of Nottingham: "BECAUSE IT'S DULL, YOU TWIT! IT'LL HURT MORE!"
Actually because it's dull, it will require far more pressure to injure the one you're trying to injure than with a sharper object. It will be an essentially useless attempt that might end in failure.
"Robin hood and Lil Jon walking through the forest." "YEAH!!!" "Laughin' back and forth at what the other'ne has to say." "WHAT?" "Reminiscin' this'n'that'n havin' such a good time, oo-de-lally oo-de-lally golly what a day." "OK!"
I'm actually somewhat surprised there aren't stories of Robin Hood being an ally of King Arthur... Or if there are, they aren't more common. A well-written crossover between these old stories of medieval heroism would be a welcome piece of literature I think...
Well, apparently he does show up in The Once and Future King and helps out a young Arthur and Kay at some point, but yeah. It is a bit surprising that isn't more common.
There's a couple reasons. First, origins aside, Robin's setting has been set as during the very real 3rd crusade, and in the very real place of Nottingham. King Arthur's time frame is almost purely mythical, and his location largely undefined beyond being in Britain. Further, in Gawain and the Green knight, Camelot is described as this heaven on earth, while Robin Hood solves problem Camelot wouldn't allow to happen.
I'm actually working on/plotting a story where a gender-bent Robin is the younger sister to the Earl of Huntington, and the High King Pwyll, while Merlin is wondering around because Arthur isn't a thing yet. It's fun, though I admit I need to do a bit more research on the characters, though I'm planning on it being more light-hearted, so more along Men in Tights than Prince of Thieves, though I may throw in a "canceling Christmas" line.
While Robin Hood falls more into the proprietary of pop culture paganism than anything, I do find the interpretation of him as fae or a trickster god rather intriguing. Like, I can absolutely see that interpretation, and want to wish anyone who does place him into that role a very pleasant day. But also, why do I now want a story where he just happens upon and hangs out with Loki?
I had an idea for a version of _Robin Hood_ that has Robin and Marian meeting as young children. It was known that the Fae had taken a child with Fae blood into the forest, and some knight went in and took that child back to the human world. That child grew up to be Maid Marian, while the Fae child she had been the playmate of became Robin Hood. Except at the end of the story, it’s revealed that Marian had been a full Fae all along, and _Robin_ had been the half-fae child brought the forest for her. When Robin Hood is killed by the monk, it’s only his human half that dies, causing him to become a full Fae like Marian. The two return to Faerie for good, along with all the Merry Men who don’t feel like they belong in the human world anymore.
@@joshuahunt3032 It's an implied realization that she's become part of the problem, i.e. asking when people are going to stop making compilations of Robin Hood's life in her summarized compilation of Robin Hood's life.
Having gone back after watching some of the trope talks it's neat to see the 5 man band as a core concept for Robin Hood with only John being the one really defined into a Powerhouse/Lancer combo.
I love Robin Hood. His stories tend to be like well run, basic D&D campaigns. Group of protagonists trying to achieve something, as many losses as wins, noncomplicated yet imposing villain King, and death in the end comes from an understandable yet innocuous mistake/betrayal. Good stuff.
It's probably no coincidence that the character of Robin Hood emerged in history when he did. King John was notorious for his self-rule and detested the idea of the rule of law, even causing his own Barons to rebel. It's how we got Magna Carta, and it should come as no surprise that a folklore rebel character emerged around the same time, tolerated by the nobility. Just Rebellion was the theme of that corner of history, and giving license to tell such stories would have been a subtle way to mock the status quo. Medieval sarcasm, if you will.
lets also not forget a hundred years after King Johns reign in 1381, we would get the Peasants Revolt, a massive revolt of the peasantry in England, which may of eventually been put down, but did have a massive political impact as the lives of the peasantry improved drastically in England, with wages and freedoms increasing. Makes sense to then that people would further popularise a folk hero based around taking the rich down a peg or two during the revolt.
Even more ironic, since Magna Carta was designed to benefit the notoriously selfish and tyrannical barons first and foremost - the real oppressors of the common folk, most of the time.
Very true. People keep trying to pin Robin Hood down to the idea of him "robbing from the rich to give to the poor", but it seems more likely that he was just a vigilante, of sorts, trying to unseat corrupt leaders (like the Sheriff, and King John). Stealing money from them wasn't the only string to his bow (pun intended), but a means to an end when it came to humiliating them and striping them of power. Giving some of that stolen money to the poor was just the Christian thing to do. As for the Peasants' Revolt... that's more complicated. Basically, after the Black Death wiped out hundreds of thousands of peasants in Medieval England, there was a labour shortage. In order to get the remaining peasants to work harder, local lords started giving them better "employee benefits". The people loved it. When the king put his foot down and stopped that from happening (basically because it was bankrupting the nobility), the peasants revolted. Understandable, really, but not entirely an overreach of power on the part of the king. It's his job to look out for his nobles, too, and England wasn't ready for the rapid expansion of the middle-classes just yet. That would come a century or two later. As for the Magna Carta... yeah, it's imperfect. It wasn't even _that_ popular at the time, because it was reworked time and again over the next few years, including by the barons it was supposed to benefit. However, it was the early 13th century. England was still a long, long way from "Civil Rights" as we understand it today. Most people were still living in houses made of wood and straw, America hadn't been (properly) discovered by Europeans, glass and pepper were considered luxury goods, and people didn't wipe after taking a dump. Give them some credit for creating a legal document designed to protect "Human Rights", even if it did only apply to the upper nobility at first.
@@GaijinEncarmine Source? Establishing the idea that everyone, including the king, has to follow the law, has individual rights, and has a right to a fair trial sounds like something people in positions of authority would want to avoid, not embrace. Because it would mean they can't be jerks to whoever they want.
I like the contrast between King Arthur and Robin Hood: King Arthur: Our system is good, we must defend it! Robin Hood: Our system is bad, we must subvert it! I know they're from different eras, but it would be fun to have both parties exist together, crossover style.
@@brothertaddeus By happy coincidence I stumbled on both the Fate series and the Overly Sarcastic Prouctions episode about Cu Chulaein at roughly the same time, sparking an interest in reconnecting with the myths of my Gaelic roots.
@@brothertaddeus I really think they should have given Robin hood some kind of anty king feature in fate. That even more so than his archery skills is the center of his character and legend.
So, in other words, Robin Hood is popular, and has managed to remain popular for so long, for roughly the same reason that Touhou Project is popular and has had such amazing staying power: We've got good framework characters, but stories that, even in-universe, are pretty loosely defined, encouraging story tellers to tell _their_ stories of the characters involved and their adventures.
"When are people going to stop trying to create a single cohesive narrative of this charact..." suddenly realizes that is exactly what she is doing "...oh".
MrSamulai you seem to not know the difference between highlighting a joke from the video and taking credit for a joke from the video. You have my pity 😏
Interestingly enough, at least in the older sources, Robin Hood was never an extraordinary combatant. Most of his skill was sneaking, ambushing, disguising, and his charisma. While he was a good archer, it wasn’t uncommon for English peasants to own and use bows.
Seeing a recent review of the Disney movie, I recalled one major issue with the Robin Hood as pro-socialism or pro-communism thing: the biggest thing Robin Hood fought against was the taxes of the time. A man opposing high taxes is in many ways more in line with capitalism than socialism or communism.
yes and no. One problem we have is how quickly we project the modern world backgrounds. A tax collector in medieval England was...not the fairest human being. Today, taxes are based on your circumstances. Back then, the tax collector did not give a fuck. Bad harvest? Too bad, pay the king. Son died fighting in the king's war? Thank you for your sacrifice, now pay the king. Medieval tax collection was closer to a mob shakedown than anything else.
Additionally, Robin Hood was a yeoman awaiting for the return of the "good" King Richard. Trying to disassociate from the government of the time as a yeoman would seems a bit too libertarian for a modern socialist to me. And being PRO-monarchy? Being against the Prince "revolutionising" how England was run up to this point with his taxes and fellow corrupt allies in the palaces and churches? That's unacceptable says the communist stooge, to the gulag with you! Robin Hood is not a socialist hero, even when you divorce him from the nobleman of Loxley background.
Pretty sure he didn't rob the rich because they were rich. He robbed the Sheriff and Archbishop because they were oppressive and overtaxing the people. He also poached the King's Deer.
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 from what I remember, he robbed them because ... 1) to humble them, you may have an honourable role but you are still accountable to the people and you should never forget that. 2) he still needs to pay his men, they aren't working for free
Meanwhile I can never abandon the feeling that Prince John got the short end of the rope. He was the guy that introduce innovation to economics, managing to fund a very costly war while reclaiming Normandy, while his brother spent his entire reign doing crusades, getting capchured (later to be bought out by John) and generally wasting his kingdom's money
But don't forget that John was the catalyst for the Magna Carta and the forerunner of rights for all people, not just the wealthy. He was that bad that both peasant and noble ganged up on him to beat him.
John didn't buy Richard's ransom, not only it would make NO SENSE, as he usurped him, he also attempted to bribe Duke Leopold to not release him with the help of King Philip II of France. His skilled administration didn't mean shit when he still alienated the nobility AND the commoners for losing very costly campaigns against France (campaigns that, btw, were meant to get back the lands HE SEIZED to Philip II) _and_ getting his ass excomunicated by the Pope (which was a VERY big deal at the time). And while Richard for all his faults was at least noted to be good-humoured and charismatic, John was considered to be a huge asshole, and cruel even for medieval standards as evidenced when he starved Maud de Braose and (depending on the version) either her husband or son to death for incurring his wrath.
(Dunno why my previous comment disappeared) Nah, you don't need to feel bad for him. First things first, you have to remember that the Magna Carta happened _for a reason_ his innovations didn't mean shit when he still got his ass kicked trying to reclaim Normandy and other french lands, the same costly wars that you mentioned in fact! So you can imagine how the people felt who had to put up with the taxes meant to fund these disastrous campaigns felt. The fact that he got excommunicated in a fiercely catholic era also didn't help matters. And by the way, John did NOT buy his brother back, I seriously wonder who invented this nonsense and why people believe in this, John USURPED him, ask yourself, why, in all that is holy and sacred, WOULD AN USURPER WANT THE RIGHTFUL HEIR THAT HE GOT RID OF, BACK?!! He and King Philip II even tried to bribe Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI in order to keep him away for more time! Also, it's not difficult to find chroniclers thinking of him as a huge prick; something that constrasts Richard, who, for all his faults, was seen as good-humoured and charismatic. John was considered to be cruel even by medieval people, which is a REAL achievement in an era where people could be punished by getting flayed alive, like Richard's murderer! Maud de Braose, a former court favorite of John, after incurring his wrath was infamously locked in a dungeon of Corfe Castle, while sources differ on whether she was with her husband or son, what is known _is that they starved to death_ the specific source that says she got locked up with her son says SHE ATE THE FLESH OF HER SON'S CHEEKS. So yeah, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him, quite the opposite!
"In your cover-letter you said you would stand firm and fight with honor, but seeing as there are more holes in you than your cv atm, tell you what, if you make it to my lunchbreak without bleeding out, the position is yours."
It took me until I was at least 10 to figure out that Robin Hood was not, in fact, originally an anthropomorphic fox voiced by Brian Bedford. Thanks Disney.
Something I think should be known, as I personally find it quite interesting... See, Robin Hood is an amazing folk tale, with an amazing set of characters... But I wanted to find out just WHO Robin Hood was. Where did his story start? What led to the creation of the character of Robin Hood? Well, I ended up learning this... From a very unlikely source. So, do you know the game "Persona 5"? In it, the main characters actually have these powers that come from these things called- well- Personas that emerge from their soul. Normally, they're based on deities, but in Persona 5, they're first based on fictional characters that were well known thieves, as that fit the theme of the game. Normally, in the games, there was this thing known as 'Awakening', where the Persona would effectively evolve, becoming something completely different. In this case, they would become deific figures who, in some way shape or form, had been to hell and got out safe and sound. Susano'o, Anat, Son Wukong (referred to by his alias, Saiten Taisei), and so on. However, in Persona 5 Royal, there were third awakenings, which not only provided remastered looks for the previous Personas, but also the original names of the characters that became the fictional thieves from before. For example, one such character uses Captain Kidd as his Persona, who eventually becomes the aforementioned Saiten Taisei, who then evolves into William, Obviously referring to the pirate William Kidd. One such character started out using the Persona of Robin Hood, and in his third awakening, the Persona becomes someone known has 'Hereward'. This interested me, so I did some digging... Appaerently, the story of Robin Hood POSSIBLY began with an Anglo-Saxon by the name of Hereward the Wake (yes, his Epithet is 'The Wake'. Do with that what you will), a nobleman who lead the resistance against the Norman Conquest of England, which lead to him becoming an outlaw in England. Now, I say POSSIBLY, because we don't actually KNOW if this is true. We just know that he is the most prominent take on the rebellious soldier in the area at that time, and what with the existence of William the Conqueror at the time, the idea isn't so farfetched.
@@colepoweredproductions6222 not quite? Thomas Crapper invented the U-bend and the floating ballcock, but not the modern toilet in form, just some improvements. Crap was already in common use before he started his company so that's not where that word comes from either. Referring to toilets by a masculine name beginning with J has a tradition at least predating Elizabeth I, as John Harrington, the inventor of the flush toilet, wrote of his new invention in 'A New Discourse of a Stale Subject, Called the Metamorphosis of Ajax' Ajax referring to the common practice at the time of calling the toilet a "Jakes"
“Man, Robin always goes out like a punk in these stories.” I know!!! My favorite is a contemplation of Robin’s stories where the meetings with his Merry Men, and then at the end; I found a version where it was like SUPER dramatic and Robin gets bled to death (per usual), but with his last bit of strength he shoots an arrow out the abbey window and then declares that wherever the arrow lands he should be buried. Up until this point in my life I had never heard that Robin actually died in any of the narratives. I always thought he was immortal or at least plot-wisely immortal; and stories just kept getting made and retold about him like cartoon characters. Or the story always got left at “happily ever after” and I never needed it to go past that. Also there was this really dramatic bit of dialogue between Robin and Little John and I cAnT- *Sobs in a corner*
There's a movie version of the story called Robin and Marian, starring Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn that has Maid Marian joining a convent while Robin went off to fight the crusades for 20 years. When he comes back, he wants to get back into the swing of things, but he's too old by this time, ends up injuring himself, and Marion does a murder/suicide poison thing so they both die. Kind of sad.
First of all: what story? I want to read it now. And second we read some Robin Hood storys in class and everyone else was like: Bluh, old English! And I was in the corner laughing myself sick because boys have barely changed in hundreds of years.Testosteron is still testosterone and makes people do stupid stuff and poschure. Then when we read Guy of Gisborn and I (a sucker for drama and power of friendship) couldn't even when Little John absolutely fliped when he though Robin was dead and it was just so sad and aaaaaaa.
WARNING!! BBC robin hood third season ends with robin dying. I've loved the serie and cried really ugly with the death scene. Sorry English is not my first language
Well in the BBC series from 2006 she is sort of her own Robin Hood and did that even before he came back from the crusade. She is just more subtle than he is in that show.
I love osp so much but as somebody who listens to them with high volume in the car so I don't miss the talking parts, I am SO GLAD there aren't as many music jump scares in the newer things.
From what i understand, Robin Hood basically tried to keep "authorities" on their toes, and victimised said authorities whenever they were victimising the common people. It's why the Sheriff of Nottingham (et al) are never mentioned by name, only by title, unlike the Merry Men. It also explains why Robin was cool with "nice" authority figures. The Robin Hood stories aren't about "proto-Communism"; they're about the idea that "with power comes responsibility".
@Frank Castle ...how? I don't believe that he's a proto-communist, but how the hell is Robin Hood a proto-Libertarian? His sole character trait is violating the NAP to redistribute wealth. Not a libertarian, but I know enough about libertarian theory to know the only reason they'd lay claim to Robin Hood is because he's popular, and they wanna be.
Robin Hood & Marian unknowingly fighting one another before realising the others' identity & bandaging one another up all lovey-dovey gives me a warm fuzzy feeling
"Robin Hood laughs in the face of all! HA HA HA!" "And do people ever punch you in the face when you do that?" "Not as yet!" "Lucky I'm here then, isn't it."
Robin Hood: One of the only times that toning him down for the kiddies made him better! Though I wish the "Maid Marian disguises herself as a dude and beats Robin in a badass swordfight" endured a little more strongly.
Paul Wagner Yeah but the climax is like 50% super uncomfortably direct and uncut Maid Marian getting sexually assaulted. :/ Guess it was just too progressive to make her handy in a fight and unvictimized.
She’s right! I love writing and I have done almost an entire story about his daughter and I literally can add any info I want because there are no sold sources! It’s AMAZING!
Basically every band is a five man band if you look at it at an angle, there's always a leader or what acts like one and always a possey of either 1 trick wonders or swiss army knives for people, the three musketeers is a three man band and sometimes 4
"He's like King Arthur in the way that his legends have persisted through time." Yes, they will be remembered all right....as cute anime girls with Noble Phantasms.
_Oh Merry Meeeeeeeen!_ (Ta da, da da da da - whoo!) _I steal from the rich and give to the needy..._ (He takes a wee percentage...) _But I'm not greedy - I rescue pretty damsels, man I'm good!_ (What a guy, ha ha, Monsieur Hood!) _Break it down..._ *Irish step dance* _I like an honest fight and a saucy little maid..._ (What he's basically saying is he likes to get...) _Paid! So, when an ogre in the bush grabs a lady by the tush, that's bad!_ (That's bad, that's bad, that's bad!) *snapping* _When a beauty's with a beast it makes me awfully mad!_ (He's mad, he's really, really mad!) _Now I'll take my blade and ram it through your heart. Keep your eyes on me, boys, 'Cause I'm about to STAAAAAAAAAAART..._
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Got to love that Robin is such a devout catholic he has to sneak into mass, then gets discovered because he's not so devout that he hasn't already robbed the monks of this church before.
A lot of religious people care more about churchgoing than they do about interpersonal decency.
@@BlackCover95 And those people get robbed by Robin Hood and then get mad when he tries to take Mass.
Most of the leaders in the old timey church were devout religious folk. Mostly thirdborns that bought a slot of comfort under the name of bishop. With the disinterest and noble faffery therein.
To be fair the church was majorly corrupt and fleeced everyone amassing more wealth than any Christian should have. Besides Jesus himself said It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into the Kingdom of Heaven, so Robin was just looking out for them and trying to save their souls.
I wonder if he would be Catholic…
Or Anglican, since he’s English, and they have their own church.
I love how the joke of "Little John" being an incredibly large & burly man has seemingly remained consistent since the character's creation.
The people know a good joke when they hear it.
Underappreciated comment. That's a seven-hundred-year-old banger there.
"They call me Little John. But don't let my name fool you. In real life, I'm very big."
"I'll take your word for it."
Pipsqueak: you think my name is funny?
Aang:…it’s hilarious!
Yeah, my father named the massive dog he used to have "Little" (masculine)
@@octaviandoroteja8512Petit?
That list of Robin in media made me realize he's never really had a major game, which is surprising.
Furry Robin Hood for Kingdom Hearts IV!
There was one in the early 2000's called Legend of Sherwood that was pretty good.
Honestly suprising There was never an Assassins Creed version of Robin Hood
@@BlackFalcon269 that would make the story more dark you know "ASSASIN creed"
@@ValentinoZ999 then again, it would be assassin's creed so maybe not that dark
Fun fact: in the Disney version, the sheriff, Prince John, and Sir Hiss are all based on real Disney executives who took over the studio after Walt Disney died. These three were apparently super hated by everyone - including Disney himself back when he was alive, who declared that opening his company to investors was the biggest mistake he ever made.
Is this why Disney is the juggernaut of capitalism it is now?
Look what Disney is now.
Interesting.
@@N0VA_YT101 Yeah, just look.
Guess you learn something interesting everyday huh?
Wait, so you're telling me "Steal from the rich and give to the poor" is barely a hundred years old, while "Maid Marion is kind of a badass" goes back to the seventeenth century?
I mean, surprising but not too surprising. Some things are much older than people in modern times imagine(not helped that historians in certain eras(victorian era is really bad about that in general :P ) try to make things fit their own world view)
Technically there is many bandits who stealing from if not downright fighting oppressive lords help local populations (beside Rogue Hood I also know Slavic Janosik, but there is way more then that). But it rarely was due to noble values though some peasant rebellions were also morally justified. Anyway this detail become vogue during modern times, so it was simplified "stealing from the rich and giving to poor" instead more proper "stealing from nobility, what they steal from you on the fist place, but at the same time you are the poor for who you stealing it back, so it isn't also not exactly that noble itself".
Well the rich were government officials that put taxes on everything
I've tried to find cool fanart of Marion being badass, but all that comes up is the Disney version.
No, google, HUMAN, I want HUMAN MAID MARION GOOGLE, GODDAMMIT!
@@tedcomet3121 That itself wasn't a problem. Problem was that they commonly spend those taxes on luxuries, when they people starved. Incompetent rules commonly birth the rebellion.
"Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you historical documentation." Holy cow, I love this line.
As someone who does live history and is constantly trying to figure out what the average bloke lived like instead of the well documented lords and kings, I feel this quote in my soul.
My research focuses on women and children, so same.
The pen is mightier than the sword.
Yeah, I need that as a t-shirt
@Johnny Cage Medieval Europe deserves more credit than this.
Took a lit class in college exclusively about Robin Hood. We watched several of the adaptations, including Prince of Thieves. There's a scene where Robin Hood is "showering" under a waterfall and everyone is dead silent just watching the movie and one of the guys who'd never spoken all semester piped up and said: "I went 27 years without seeing Kevin Costner's ass." And even the professor lost her shit.
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Alan Rickman's (may he rest in peace) Sheriff of Nottingham was the best thing about "Prince of Thieves", period.
@@jbvader721 Gotta be honest, don't remember a single thing about that movie except the experience I described above lmao
So.... was it a good ass?
There are so many uninterrupted silences in that movie.... I couldn't imagine watching it in a semi-serious setting.
I just. I love the version of Maid Marian who's like, "Oh no my boyfriend got exiled, guess I'd better just grab my hiking boots and tramp on into the wilds to find him" and then she's like "Oh no, a recent but already well-known outlaw, guess I'll just beat his ass" and then SHE DOES. And HE LIKES IT. Between this and Little John I think Robin Hood just adores people who can wreck his shit, which, honestly, same.
If they can kick your ass and have your back, that’s about as good an ally as you can get
He just like me fr fr
@@kynan1232 CT fha. A koiaksanakaa 🎉k. K
Sounds pretty fruedian *stares intensely*
Reminds me of that one gianni matrigianno video
*Maid Marian* : I want a nice guy who’s cool, charitable and respects women.
*Robin Hood* : I want a girlfriend who can not only kick my ass but would do so upon request
I see Robin Hood shares my tastes
Ahh, as the old anime quote goes from one of the greatest characters ever....
"I love the kind of woman who can kick my ass." -Spike
@@Fanatic_Foremem Hear, hear.
If she can't defeat you in single combat, what's the point?
Oh masochist much? Lol
Red: "See Millennials, gettin' a job isn't that hard, just engage your boss in single combat-"
Me, under my breath like a hermit: "Defeat them and they'll join your party, video games have trained us for this!"
Select your weapon:
*Katana*
Special abilities: Make you look like a weeb
Drawbacks: In bad condition
*Old English Broadsword*
Special abilities: If you get one hit to the head it’s an insta-kill
Drawbacks: You require a base strength stat of 18 or above to wield this weapon.
*Plastic Lightsaber*
Special abilities: You can actually use this with your current stats. Also can compact to fit in smaller spaces.
Drawbacks: Does 0.5 damage
In Robin Hood's case it tends to be "get defeated by them" though XD And then invite them to work for you because they're so good.
Me: “skips the dialogue and goes straight to fighting the boss.”
Everyone else at the staff meeting: ....WTF?!
Idk what you guys are talking about I only played dragon quest 5
Idk what you guys are talking about I only played dragon quest 5
Red: "Why is he our go-to?"
Me: Because a character with no attached copyrights, trademarks, etc. is a hell of a lot cheaper than other characters. 😀
That's the fate of all public domain characters.
And a character that sticks it to the man and helps the poor can be used in any setting. Modern day people could use him to steal from governments and big business CEOs and give to poor people on the streets.
...so because of capitalism?
Søren Sørensen Yep, Capitalism
Not enough people are using Lupin that’s why
Fun fact: shooting an arrow through another arrow that is already on the target and splitting that on-target arrow in half in the process is called Robin Hooding, kind of obvious how that name came to be but yeah, not only is he the forever dashing and cunning rogue but he is also the most stylish archery champion, so much so that the coolest way to win an archery competition is named after him.
It really sucks during practice though, having to constantly buy new arrows
@@khoatran-pc6tb it’s really hard to do with modern fibreglass arrow shafts and field tips, since fibreglass shatters rather than split, which is made worse by the field tip’s round, non-cutting design
@@1003JustinLaw It sounds like it would suck so much more to be shot with a Fibre Glass Arrow than a Wooden one.
@@MantraMan2077 I mean, you're not hard enough to cause the fiberglass to shatter, even if the arrow hits one of your bones. Besides, with fiberglass you don't have to worry about splinters. And also, fiberglass tends to be straighter and more flexible, so it'll be easier to extract, a wooden shaft might not be completely straight and might snap inside of you, which would make you wish you actually died from the shot than having to live through getting it extracted.
@@1003JustinLaw my dad did it once years ago, it was with a crossbow so maybe that's a bit different
"Engage your boss in single combat"
Oooohhh, my dad wasn't telling me to shake their hand, it was BREAK their hand! Thanks for clearing that up, Red.
Wtf
And if that fails, _stake_ their hand.
So _that's_ why they always say you need a firm grip.
Well, just in case you may need to *take* their hand.
@@mleppp1546
Proposal leads to nepotism.
I want to see a King Arthur/Robin Hood mashup, written by Red and Blue.
No, it won't make any historical sense. That's not the point, not even a little.
King Arthur comes back from his healing centuries on the isle of the fae to see that Britain is in a sorry state with robber barons and callous kings and sherrifs who care little for their people. Without his usual resources, any clue who might be descendants of his Knights and no sign of Merlin, he assembles a new circle of allies to try and knock the authority down a peg. The consistent joke is that he keeps claiming to be King Arthur but noone takes it seriously, not even his own Merry Men.
Robin Hood is a character in the "Sword in the Stone" portion of "The Once and Future King" where he's an adult while King Arthur is still a kid. He doesn't do much outside of complaining about how everyone gets his name wrong as it's really "Robin Wood".
TheRealPentigan Can... can I use your blurb and write it out cuz dang...I wanna make that
Time traveling Spanish conquistadors
@@TheRealPentigan someone has to wright this
Not to mention all the characters he's inspired over the years, such as Green arrow and Link
Murraymon - And Robin from Batman.
Link was actually inspired by Peter pan, though maybe that one was inspired by Robin hood, I dunno
And a bird
Nicarem Peter Pan may have been inspired by Robin Hood?
@@linkadoodle9568 yeah totally
Watching this again a year later, I think we all forgot the very important factor that Robin Hood sits very comfortably in a position where he can fit into literally anyone's moral code. Religious? Robin Hood fits. Anti-Taxation or hate big government? Robin Hood fits. Don't like authority figures? Robin Hood fits. Patriotic despite the government? Robin Hood fits. I don't know a single person who dislikes Robin Hood because you can reasonably fit him into almost every world view. I've seen well thought out arguments that this dude would, in modern day, be a libertarian, a communist, a conservative, a liberal, even a monarchist or authoritarian due to his opposition to bad kings in favor of good ones. I don't think a figure exists that is so malleable he can fit into almost any world view in a positive light outside of Jesus Christ.
That is a really good point. He has been rewritten so many times from so many points of view that it really does just come down to what stories you choose to focus on.
I don't quite see how Robin Hood fits a religious moral code though.
@@wjzav1971 Robin is literally a Catholic in the most well-known stories. Also if you actually pay attention to what Jesus says in the Bible, he's very against the hoarding of wealth and says it's almost impossible for a rich person to get into Heaven. So Robin Hood fits with that angle.
How would jesus be the same, his story is super messy and incoherent, having multiple often opposite versions and morals of them with so much variety.
@@FirstLast-wk3kc Robin Hood is just like Jesus in that regard. There are literally many retellings of his story, many people admire him and thus try to fit him into THEIR world views
"Great core characters and almost no plot"
So it's a Slice of Life genre. . . .
Well THAT'S a realization that's gonna stick with me like a pocket full of lead.
OH. *OH*
lucky star be like
With SWORDS!
But they also rob people to keep things entertaining.
I had no idea that Maid Marian was written as pretty self sufficient this whole time. That RULES
Always refreshing to know “the strong female character” isnt just modern corporation pandering
I love a vast majority of ancient female characters that actually get mentioned because they are badass as fuck
Meh 😑...just kidding she is pretty cool 😊
@@nicodranasien Yes, I'm watched about myth ofAtlanta and she was also strong female character who not only was a good hunter but also doesn't want to get marriage with men.
She was an adaption of some french myth solely about Marion (about the maid of the spring or whatever), so I guess she had to be proactive to live up to her earlier stories
The hilarious thing about Robin Hood's popularity is that, from the stories I've read, he really wasn't robbing in order to to give to the poor.
Sure, he had a big heart, and he would often go way out of his way to help total strangers, but he was robbing the rich for money (and also because he was a restless scoundrel). It's just that he was smart enough to spread enough of that wealth around that all of the locals "super couldn't find his hideout" and "totally hadn't seen him pass through just now."
Madlad.
Basically. On top of that he need supplies so he offered good prices to people. Not that he was giving them anything in literal sense.
He's a D&D adventurer !
Yes, yeeees!!! Bribe the witnesses and kill the ones that don’t cooperate!
Lol
D&d adventuring 0.1
@@vukkulvar9769 D&D is essentially the mythical equivalent of the modern video game industry, so it makes sense it would draw from classical folktales in such a big way.
Also he didn’t just steal from the rich, he specifically stole from corrupt author figures including tax collectors and bishops
Ive noticed that Robin Hood and Sun Wukong have a lot of similarities as characteristics and their respective personalities, and honestly I just love that
Chaotic hoodlum who constantly undermines authority has been a universal concept for as long as there has been authority to undermine
If they meet something’s crashing and burning while they laugh in the background
Honestly, I’d watch/read that. The two just doing random things, especially with Wukong’s shape shifting and duplicating. Makes for unique story beats at least
Urban fantasy crossover
@BigJoeKnows Well...
[Similarities]
*Robyn Hode (Robin Hood) & Sun Wukong*
1) Both are Cunning, Mischievous & have Creative Planning
2) Both aren't against Lying, Stealing & Killing for Survival/Practicality
3) Both are Generally Unruly & Prefer/Desire Freedom
4) Both Care for Those They see as Allies/Family
[Differences]
*14th to 15th Century, Robyn Hode*
1) Mostly Chaotic Good
2) Has Clear Strict & Specific Morals
3) Less Rude & Apathetic Towards Others
4) Is 100% Devoted to Virgin Mary & Loyal to the (True) King
*1592 Xiyouji Novel, Sun Wukong*
1) Primarily Chaotic Neutral (later on becomes Chaotic Good)
2) Morally Grey & Inconsistent (ESPECIALLY during Chapter 14 - 56)
3) More Impulsive & Boastful
4) FAR more Aggressive, Merciless & Violent!
5) Has Respect for Guanyin but isn't 100% Obedient to Her!
"You speak treason!"
"Fluently!"
Is? that? a? quote? from? something?
mimichu
Yeah. The 30’s Errol Flynn film.
Geek Week One of the best ones really, people should watch it.
So that's where Obi-Wan Kenobi got his sarcastic demeanor from.
Kenobi is Robin Hood in space.
Hm. Neat.
@@Ky-Nas Wait how?
Robin Hood: Rogue
Little John: Fighter
Will Scarlet: Swashbuckler
Alan-a-Dale: Bard
Much, the Miller's Son: [REDACTED]
Friar Tuck: Cleric
Uuuummmm.......
I dont like that redacted. 😟
I'd say Allan A Dale fits bard more. He is known as the traveling minstrel
sad Ranger noises
...
Just make a Fighter with a bow, it's way better!
Maid Marian?
Much is Alpharius
"My extremely subtle sarcasm..."
Oh is this Subtly Sarcastic Productions now?
She's being sarcastic about her level of sarcasm. That's some next level sarcasm there
@@pRahvi0 ikr. It's even funnier because in another video she says she's allergic to subtlety.
Overly subtle sarcastic productions
@@pRahvi0 You could almost say it's... Overly sarcastic.
👌
1st- I thought Marion as capable and fiesty was a modern addition. I am super excited to learn its not.
2nd- As usual, this is a wonderfully consise and clever summary of all reliable sources. Which is why-
3rd- I am using this to teach my cast basic background as I put on a Stage Production this summer. Thank you for the wonderful resource!
"Mary got him drinking that respect women juice."
We can agree that Robin Hood men in tights is the best Robin Hood movie
Don't you mean Marian
@@Jai137 nah, it mentions him believing in the virgin Mary
Jai137 05:38
If only we could supply that to the masses
Maid Marion: *is self reliant, useful, physically capable, has personality, & has healthy supportive relationship w/ leading man*
Me: *learning when Marion was created* Was this even legal-
To be fair, she does often flip off the law to go be an outlaw with Robin Hood so
Given that this is the story of an outlaw and his band of merry outlaws, it is safe to assume very little involved was legal.
@@eric619 I don't know yet if I hate you or want to start a long-distance relationship with you but your comment should be illegal
@@june9914 Depends: do I want to know what it means?
Freedom Fighter it’s a form of romance that’s more akin to a rivalry
robin hood: clever, cunning, good at trickery, portrayed as a hero, gets into sticky situations but is helped by his allies, isn’t indestructible but achieves some great victories, leader of a crew
therefore robin hood = english odysseus
Not quite. Robin Hood's Merry Men aren't a bunch of contrarian idiots.
@@adamloga3788 I see you are a fellow pro Aeneas and his crew type then. SPQR > Greek.
almost
robin hood isn't the only smart one
and they both have famous tales about a bow and arrow
aka the medieval spiderman
I think it would be so funny to have a movie about all the different Robin Hood’s with different backstories meeting and shenanigans ensuing
Into the Robin-verse
I could see it as mostly being mostly a bottle plot of a movie and still sounds like something I'd watch.
* all of the robins hood arguing over moral codes and methods *
* absolutely loaded nobleman walks by *
* arguing abruptly halts, as all robins hood mischievously grin in unison *
@@gamertwo6263 camera pans to a very dead noblemen and very happy orphanage owners/workers
I like to imagine a Mongol horde of Robin Hoods.
"extremely subtle sarcasm".
Came off as overly sarcastic to me really.
roll credits
Buh-dunTS!
**Seinfeld theme**
Gunnie I might be the one getting whooshed here, but I believe they just made a pun using the channel’s name. Perhaps it was you who missed the joke, although, I am known to be overly serious sometimes.
@@thedotintheletteri lmao I can relate to this...
My teacher said jokingly that you could make your paper one word
I wrote that down
It was the first day
I wrote one word.
Red: "Capitalism Sucks."
Me: Sounds about right for someone named Red.
*Soviet anthem gets louder*
Communist detected on American soil lethal force engaged!
- liberty Prime
@@doom7ish
*BETTER DEAD THEN RED!*
@@The_Crimson_Fucker Red Dead begs to differ.
*USSR anthem intensifies*
"The shockingly self-reliant Maid Marian"
I can remember being like 6 and noticing how much more fun Marian was in a story than most damsels I'd been exposed to at the time.
That's good, though I myself like a good damsel in distress.
@gliese 581c ew gliese 581c
@gliese 581c grow up
@gliese 581c your loss
@@kingofcards9 *schizophrenia*
When you realize that Robin Hood is basically fan-fiction fodder.
Ye olde fanne fikt
Thaaaat's folk stories.
Well yeah. Need to come up with a morality story about greed and sharing for your kids and don't have anything off the top of your head? Spin some tale of Robin teaching the lesson to a peasant who stumbled into a huge windfall, boom, kids learn their lessons and there's a new Robin Hood story out there.
Are you saying that Robin Hood is the medieval Touhou Project?
Welcome to the Folklore Genre!
Mary: “Respect women”
Robin Hood: “Hell yeah my gal!”
pewdiepie is the mother of Jesus yall
Having Maid Marion go out in disguise, fight Robin is a full on swordfight and actually beating him, sounds like something a modern writer would do, so imagine my surprise to find out that its from a hundreds of years old version of the story
@@weldonwin that writer proably wanted to play with the warrior princess archtype
respect wahmen
@@dirtypure2023 yes only tru mun respect wamen
"So, Robin and John meet in the middle of a bridge."
Huh, kinda like Samurai Ja-
*that exact clip from Samurai Jack*
OOOOH SHE DID THE THING GUYS!
*Insert TFS Hellsing Reference here*
And now I'm wondering if Little John actually did have a set of bagpipes originally and that was also brought along in the Samurai Jack episode.
Partigrade Cannon
Nah they just played bloody knuckles.
Wait that was men in tights. Never mind.
@uncletigger you do realize I'm placing Samurai Jack first because I SAW it first, and the whole point of this comment was that the Robin Hood story, which I encountered second, reminded me of the Samurai Jack segment, which I encountered first, right?
@@Azzabackam It doesn't matter what you saw first. You do realize that the tale of Robin and John appeared 400 years before than the samurai jack knockoff ? Really, turn off the tv and read more books
The end was her realizing she is being a hypocrite
-she is fine
Correction: AMAZING AWSOME INCREDIBLE
Ahhh, thanks for that. I was confused by the ending.
that explains a lot, thanks
Yeah.
Yeah that wasn't really clear to me.
I don’t think it’s really hypocrisy, more just irony.
"Maid Marian"
"Robin was a devout follower of the Virgin Mary"
ohhhhh
Interestingly, as Maid Marian becomes more important in the stories, Robin Hood's devotion to the Virgin Mary is written out.
I guess this lore isn't big enough for *two* inspiring female models for the hero.
@@samrevlej9331 Actually, I wonder if some writer heard about "his devotion to Mary" and completely misinterpreted that and as a result Maid Marion was invented. It can't be a coincidence they have such similar names.
@@JaelinBezel ... I think it's a bit of a stretch, as "devotion to Mary" would immediately have been understood to mean the Virgin Mary, since they were living in a religious society. I just think that as morals and cultural norms shifted, it became morally okay and more engaging plot-wise to give him a love interest that could temporally replace Robin's spiritual devotion to Mary.
@@samrevlej9331 Well, England did turn from Catholic to Anglican and the Anglicans were not cool with venerating Mary. I thought that’s why the spiritual devotion to Mary was cut off, considering that Robin Hood was popular among the average folk at the time.
King Arthur & his knights: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers.
Robin Hood & the Merry Men: LADS! LADS! LADS!
The Virgin Round Table Knights vs the Chad Merry Men
Me and the lads robbing the rich and giving to the poor
So robin hood and the merry men are bros while king Arthur and his knights are civilized
@@ajaycease6542 I don't think the knights could bd called "civilized"
Pretty sure the We Happy Few quote was from Henry V not Knights of the Round Table
HOT TAKE: Later versions of the story, when Robin's dedication to the Virgin Mary starts to become less important to the story now have a new character, MAID MARIAN. Virgin Mary, Maid Marian, both important women that Robin is dedicated to in the story. It all fits! (This literally popped into my head while making fajitas and I had to comment on it right away.)
"Marian" is literally the adjective for the folk religion that consists of extreme worship of the Virgin Mary ("Marian devotions"). Sooo...
Definitely makes OP's theory sound even more convincing! 😋
Robin Hood and his Merry Men / Mary's Men?
Huh. Never thought of that. That actually makes sense, especially since his homeland eventually became aggressively Anti-Catholic and thus, rebranding him was important.
How was the fajitas? Were they good?
How in the ever-loving hell have we never seen a modern interpretation of Robin Hood where Marian goes undercover and kicks Robin's ass in a swordfight??
Because the writers are cowards who got beaten up by girls in elementary school.
They did do something like that in Prince of Theives, she did fight him in that one, she was undercover as a personal bodyguard or a knight, I forget which.
Because... Patriarchy :)
Well...The Green Arrow is solidly based on Robin Hood and Black Canary and him occasionally skirmish with minor wins on both sides. Black Canary, as an outlaw badass, isn't hugely from Marian...so, kind of?
@@HaydenX wait, Ollie has WON one of those? I love Ollie, but Dinah kicks his ass in hand to hand without really trying. Dinah is in the top 7-8 hand to hand combatants in all of DC, only Conner Hawk, Shiva, Bruce, Cassandra Cain, Richard Dragon and Val Armorr being better then she is. Possibly Bronze Tiger, but that fight can go either way.
She must be taking pity on Ollie's ego and letting him win a little.
That “Oh oh no” at the end feels like it was the result of realizing that Robin Hood is the narrative equivalent of a religious figurehead (Jesus, Buddha, name a god from Hindu, Egyptian, Greecoroman, Middle Eastern society). It’s kinda funny in that line of thought. A character who’s story is changed to fit the era it was written in in order to allow more people to be attached to it
More that she realized she is criticizing exactly what she's doing in this video
@@swashhustler1326so that makes her a prophet
@@swashhustler1326 That's just how Red is, and her being herself is what we are here for
"Oh. Oh no" When you realise you're doing the exact thing you're saying people need to stop doing
Yes, this was the joke. Nothing gets by you
@@RandomZydeco Nothing gets past me. I would catch it.
Thanks! I didn't get it at first :D
Tbh I thought that that’s what the joke was, but I wasn’t completely certain so thank you for pointing it out even though it was obvious to most people.
Oh ok, i got confused at the end there.
what i got out of this: robin hood is basically fan fiction now
With no copyright! *runs off to write the female reboot of Robin Hood!*
@@IliyaMoroumetz do it.... or just give the idea to DW so we can have a female Robin hood or Maid Marion in FGO
@@thesymbiotenation.4552 They already have Robin Hood in game. Looks kinda mediocre, truth be told.
@@IliyaMoroumetz we know, we want Servant versions of Robin Hood's Merry men
Has been since his inception
So what you're saying is that it's popular because it's prime fanfic material
Yes.
We are making Robin hood fanfic since the XIth century.
I'm kind proud.
You got it in one
Some of our most popular culture can be derived from fanfiction. After all, you can't make something from nothing.
Dark_Tail
For example, Lancelot was someone’s OC do not steal
12:53 "Very loosely defined" _This is the brilliant Legend of Zelda formula!_ The hero is more lawful good inclined, but otherwise still pretty vague (since the personally of the silent hero is somewhat thrust upon the player in a game), there is a common cast of side characters that can have various supporting casts, and a handful of common villains to choose from, or make up a new one. There is always some plot nonsense (prophecy/divine intervention) to bail the hero out of any situation (or just load save since it's a game and all). *Not to mention the green tunic!*
Now i kinda wanna see a Link who has a deep distrust of authority and always gives Zelda the evil eye during their first few encounters and is furious with himself when he realises henlikes her.
"And why should the people listen to you?"
"Because unlike some other robin hoods, I can speak with english accent."
That's the best Robin Hood movie ever
@@Oracle_
And the disney version, the final heist in that is so damn good,
@@Oracle_the end credits love balad had no business being as good as it was
Fun fact: since that joke wouldn't work in other language dubs, they would insert another jab at Costner. For example: "Unlike other Robin Hoods, I don't dance with wolves."
@@Oracle_ Which one is it?I don't recognise the reference.
The fact that red realized that throughout history we have been writing fanfiction and will continue to do so till the end of time☺️🤣
Before copyright was invented, they just called it fiction. ;)
I gave this a lot of thought on her videos about Greek Mythology. It really is just fan-canon, headcanon, constructed stories, etc.
*Every piece of religious art is fan art. *
In other words:
Professionals. Have. Standards.
Be polite
Be efficient.
And have a plan to kill everyone you meet!
dad...dad!...put...put mum on the phone.
James P says the guy that throws jars of piss. Lol. Don’t hate me, snipers my favorite character in tf2.
I've actually realised that throughout the changes of narrative with Robin Hood, his adoration for the Virgin Mary essentially splits up into Marian and King Richard. Marian, as this fair lady that Robin has extreme respect for. While Richard, who as a monarch is appointed by God and vested with divine authority, as well as being known for reclaiming the Holy Land, is constantly seen by Robin as this symbol of God's benevolence and might.
"He steals from the rich and gives to the needy. He takes a percentage, but he's not greedy" (Shrek)
He rescues pretty damsels, man he's good!
What a guy, Monsieur Hooooooood
break it down.
@@kayleighbrown459 He likes an honest fight and a saucy little maid.
“But he’s basically saying that he likes to get...”
Paid!
Robin Hood: *gives money to poor person*
Poor Person: Wow! I'm rich!
Robin Hood: *narrows eyes* You're WHAT??
*Dennis Moore, Dennis Moore, galloping through the sward...*
We could make a movie out of this •-•
Wow, Imaging copying a meme off of reddit.
@@quive5705 imagine sharing a joke?
“We’re here to steal your money to give it to the poor. But then the poor would be rich so we actually keep all the money for ourselves.”
"See Millennials, getting hired is a snap! First you engage your boss in single combat..."
Red, that's Boomer talk. These days, the boss won't even deign to look at you unless you've had 5 years experience in a fighting style that has only existed for 2.
I see you, too, work in software!
In my experience, I can't afford regulation gloves to slap my prospective boss across the face and so he just ignores me.
Today I learned that corporate has budgeted a job that should have 15+ man days/week with 7 to complete the work even though they have seen us extremely backed up on work when we had 14 man days/week and were pulling labor from other parts of the workplace.
Meanwhile, we spend about 4 times as much for some of our supplies as we should be, and of course, the people making these decisions are micromanaging from another state without ever having worked the job and want no corners cut.
Join the armed forces and they'll teach you whatever you need to know AND get paid doing it. Imaging collage debts that pay you.
It also gives you much needed connections and stand out elements to your resume and interview personality.
Are you kidding? I'll hire you as long as you're capable of doing the work and actually WANT to work! Nobody wants to work!
I wonder how “palatable” writers really needed to make Robin Hood in the early 1500s considering that the king of England (Henry VIII) at the time was a fanboy who liked to cosplay him (definitely happened in 1510 when he surprised Queen Catherine, pretty sure he was also cosplaying Robin Hood in his disastrous first meeting of Anne of Cleaves). That the “good king” role originated when Henry was king doesn’t seem coincidental though.
Later, in the 27th century:
“Made by a group called DreamWorks, which was the rival animation group to Pixar, Disney’s group, which is why you’ve never heard of them.”
😂lmao
That's almost perfect. Unfortunately, Shrek.
How do they explain Shrek?
For those of you asking about Shrek, it’s already on its way out of popularity.
@@SchneeflockeMonsoon No, Shrek is experiencing a surge of popularity
You know all those really bad paintings and drawings that don’t look like humans? Do you think in like 500yrs that people will see anime and think that we thought ppl looked like that?
Consider even back then cavemen used to bust nuts on a *T H I C C* Statue that looks awfully like your typical *T H I C C* waifu... Yeah they probably would.
@@magosexploratoradeon6409 ..................................................... dude..... ancient alien theorists think those statues are aliens when theyre actually cave hentai
LordOfThe Flightless omg are you serious
we’ll all be dead in half a millennia, so, no.
@@batvaleska what are you talking about
Best Robin Hood adaptations: "Men in Tights" and the episode of "Star Trek: The Next Generation" where Q makes the crew act the legend.
Honorable Mention: The "Doctor Who" episode where he meets him and spends the entire time trying to say he isn't real.
Men in Tights really is the best Robin Hood movie ever.
"And why should the people listen to you?"
"Because, unlike some other Robin Hoods... I can speak with an English accent."
I AM NOT A MERRY MAN!
I agree with “men in tights” (tIGHt tights) but personally the doctor who episode was better than the next generation episode, mainly for the sheer comedy of the arguments
@@grahamkristensen9301 *Twang-twang-twang-twang-twang-twang-twang...*
*TUNGK!*
"Sorry."
"Every time they make a Robin Hood movie they burn our village down!"
"LEAVE US ALONE, MEL BROOKS!!!"
“Stay humble America, you’ve got a lot to be embarrassed about”
Me, former history teacher: OOOOOOOH YEAH!
Also, been watching a lot of your vids about mythology today. Seems like Robin Hood is what a lot of ancient myths were like back in the day (see: Loki, Hades and Persephone, etc), but the invention of the printing press means that the myth fossilized (to use your term, which is perfect) in that incomplete, nebulous form rather than in a more defined place.
I am sadly not surprised it was my native state of Indiana that tried to ban Robin Hood.
That killed me and I'm American.
Sheriff of Nottingham: "LOCKSLEY!!! I'm gonna cut your heart out with a SPOON!"
Later...
Guy of Gisborne: "Why a spoon, cousin? Why not an axe or--"
Sheriff of Nottingham: "BECAUSE IT'S DULL, YOU TWIT! IT'LL HURT MORE!"
Mitch Neu RIP Alan Rickman
That reminds me of the spoon killer trailer
Best line delivery ever
Points for creativity.
Actually because it's dull, it will require far more pressure to injure the one you're trying to injure than with a sharper object. It will be an essentially useless attempt that might end in failure.
"Robin hood and Lil Jon walking through the forest."
"YEAH!!!"
"Laughin' back and forth at what the other'ne has to say."
"WHAT?"
"Reminiscin' this'n'that'n havin' such a good time, oo-de-lally oo-de-lally golly what a day."
"OK!"
Lil Jon... I get it.
Bless you for this.
Quality Comment 😂
@@daniellemhall1358 Took me a while, thanks for your comment.
Ah, see what you did there.
I'm actually somewhat surprised there aren't stories of Robin Hood being an ally of King Arthur... Or if there are, they aren't more common. A well-written crossover between these old stories of medieval heroism would be a welcome piece of literature I think...
Well, apparently he does show up in The Once and Future King and helps out a young Arthur and Kay at some point, but yeah. It is a bit surprising that isn't more common.
There's a couple reasons. First, origins aside, Robin's setting has been set as during the very real 3rd crusade, and in the very real place of Nottingham. King Arthur's time frame is almost purely mythical, and his location largely undefined beyond being in Britain. Further, in Gawain and the Green knight, Camelot is described as this heaven on earth, while Robin Hood solves problem Camelot wouldn't allow to happen.
I'm actually working on/plotting a story where a gender-bent Robin is the younger sister to the Earl of Huntington, and the High King Pwyll, while Merlin is wondering around because Arthur isn't a thing yet. It's fun, though I admit I need to do a bit more research on the characters, though I'm planning on it being more light-hearted, so more along Men in Tights than Prince of Thieves, though I may throw in a "canceling Christmas" line.
@@Rainears129 watch out, if your robin is too attractive type-moon might hire you.
@@chukyuniqul never have I been so offended by something I 100% agree with
While Robin Hood falls more into the proprietary of pop culture paganism than anything, I do find the interpretation of him as fae or a trickster god rather intriguing. Like, I can absolutely see that interpretation, and want to wish anyone who does place him into that role a very pleasant day.
But also, why do I now want a story where he just happens upon and hangs out with Loki?
I had an idea for a version of _Robin Hood_ that has Robin and Marian meeting as young children. It was known that the Fae had taken a child with Fae blood into the forest, and some knight went in and took that child back to the human world. That child grew up to be Maid Marian, while the Fae child she had been the playmate of became Robin Hood.
Except at the end of the story, it’s revealed that Marian had been a full Fae all along, and _Robin_ had been the half-fae child brought the forest for her. When Robin Hood is killed by the monk, it’s only his human half that dies, causing him to become a full Fae like Marian. The two return to Faerie for good, along with all the Merry Men who don’t feel like they belong in the human world anymore.
Robin Hood: Here have some money
Peasant: I am rich!
Robin Hood: This is a robery.
Lmao
"Blimey, this redistribution of wealth business is trickier than I thought!"
You'd think he'd at least give them a 5 min. head start.
He’s got a system
Boom orange juice that’s life !
I really really like the tale where Marian kicks his ass in swords and then they live happily ever after. You could say I have a type
Are you familiar with the T.V show Maid Marian And Her Merry Men?
“I like a girl that could kick my ass”
Does that make Marian a shounen protagonist?
Emperor Flick Imagine a shounen series about Marian 👌
@@bananasinfrench Somebody should write it.
Red: When is everyone going to stop making a compilation of Robin hood's life...Oh no.
Me: That was when Red realized, she screwed up.
MrWarriorace I’m out of the loop. Is she just implying that compilations of Robin Hood’s life might go on forever?
No, it's what she just did.
bump
I think it's because that's what this video did.
@@joshuahunt3032 It's an implied realization that she's become part of the problem, i.e. asking when people are going to stop making compilations of Robin Hood's life in her summarized compilation of Robin Hood's life.
Having gone back after watching some of the trope talks it's neat to see the 5 man band as a core concept for Robin Hood with only John being the one really defined into a Powerhouse/Lancer combo.
I love Robin Hood. His stories tend to be like well run, basic D&D campaigns. Group of protagonists trying to achieve something, as many losses as wins, noncomplicated yet imposing villain King, and death in the end comes from an understandable yet innocuous mistake/betrayal. Good stuff.
It's probably no coincidence that the character of Robin Hood emerged in history when he did. King John was notorious for his self-rule and detested the idea of the rule of law, even causing his own Barons to rebel. It's how we got Magna Carta, and it should come as no surprise that a folklore rebel character emerged around the same time, tolerated by the nobility. Just Rebellion was the theme of that corner of history, and giving license to tell such stories would have been a subtle way to mock the status quo. Medieval sarcasm, if you will.
lets also not forget a hundred years after King Johns reign in 1381, we would get the Peasants Revolt, a massive revolt of the peasantry in England, which may of eventually been put down, but did have a massive political impact as the lives of the peasantry improved drastically in England, with wages and freedoms increasing. Makes sense to then that people would further popularise a folk hero based around taking the rich down a peg or two during the revolt.
Even more ironic, since Magna Carta was designed to benefit the notoriously selfish and tyrannical barons first and foremost - the real oppressors of the common folk, most of the time.
Very true. People keep trying to pin Robin Hood down to the idea of him "robbing from the rich to give to the poor", but it seems more likely that he was just a vigilante, of sorts, trying to unseat corrupt leaders (like the Sheriff, and King John). Stealing money from them wasn't the only string to his bow (pun intended), but a means to an end when it came to humiliating them and striping them of power. Giving some of that stolen money to the poor was just the Christian thing to do.
As for the Peasants' Revolt... that's more complicated. Basically, after the Black Death wiped out hundreds of thousands of peasants in Medieval England, there was a labour shortage. In order to get the remaining peasants to work harder, local lords started giving them better "employee benefits". The people loved it. When the king put his foot down and stopped that from happening (basically because it was bankrupting the nobility), the peasants revolted. Understandable, really, but not entirely an overreach of power on the part of the king. It's his job to look out for his nobles, too, and England wasn't ready for the rapid expansion of the middle-classes just yet. That would come a century or two later.
As for the Magna Carta... yeah, it's imperfect. It wasn't even _that_ popular at the time, because it was reworked time and again over the next few years, including by the barons it was supposed to benefit.
However, it was the early 13th century. England was still a long, long way from "Civil Rights" as we understand it today. Most people were still living in houses made of wood and straw, America hadn't been (properly) discovered by Europeans, glass and pepper were considered luxury goods, and people didn't wipe after taking a dump. Give them some credit for creating a legal document designed to protect "Human Rights", even if it did only apply to the upper nobility at first.
-insert intellect comment here.
@@GaijinEncarmine Source? Establishing the idea that everyone, including the king, has to follow the law, has individual rights, and has a right to a fair trial sounds like something people in positions of authority would want to avoid, not embrace. Because it would mean they can't be jerks to whoever they want.
I like the contrast between King Arthur and Robin Hood:
King Arthur: Our system is good, we must defend it!
Robin Hood: Our system is bad, we must subvert it!
I know they're from different eras, but it would be fun to have both parties exist together, crossover style.
Now I'm sad that I can't remember Robin Hood and King Arthur ever interacting with each other in Fate.
@@brothertaddeus the closest we get is both being playable characters in Fate/Extella.
@@brothertaddeus By happy coincidence I stumbled on both the Fate series and the Overly Sarcastic Prouctions episode about Cu Chulaein at roughly the same time, sparking an interest in reconnecting with the myths of my Gaelic roots.
@@brothertaddeus I really think they should have given Robin hood some kind of anty king feature in fate. That even more so than his archery skills is the center of his character and legend.
@@brothertaddeus I don't even recall him having much to say about Nero being an Emperor even.
So, in other words, Robin Hood is popular, and has managed to remain popular for so long, for roughly the same reason that Touhou Project is popular and has had such amazing staying power: We've got good framework characters, but stories that, even in-universe, are pretty loosely defined, encouraging story tellers to tell _their_ stories of the characters involved and their adventures.
I'm seeing a disturbing lack of talk about the greatest robin hood movie: Robin Hood Men in Tights.
Right!?
YAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Cause he can speak with an English accent
That's the worst misspelling of the TNG episode "Qpid"I've ever read.
C9R9D yes my good sir or madam
"When are people going to stop trying to create a single cohesive narrative of this charact..."
suddenly realizes that is exactly what she is doing
"...oh".
Notices a joke in the video
Thinks he came up with it himself
Posts it in the comments
Is a Comedy Man
now it's 5
I was scrolling through the comments looking for what that "ohhh" meant thank you
Owen DeCarlo you weren’t the only one who missed it, this has been an incredibly helpful comment
MrSamulai you seem to not know the difference between highlighting a joke from the video and taking credit for a joke from the video. You have my pity 😏
So, you're telling me Robin Hood made most of his friends by losing in a fight? Is he the anti-anime protagonist then?
Omg midoria from mha. I didnt realize
Shut up kokichi
Interestingly enough, at least in the older sources, Robin Hood was never an extraordinary combatant. Most of his skill was sneaking, ambushing, disguising, and his charisma. While he was a good archer, it wasn’t uncommon for English peasants to own and use bows.
Seeing a recent review of the Disney movie, I recalled one major issue with the Robin Hood as pro-socialism or pro-communism thing: the biggest thing Robin Hood fought against was the taxes of the time. A man opposing high taxes is in many ways more in line with capitalism than socialism or communism.
yes and no. One problem we have is how quickly we project the modern world backgrounds. A tax collector in medieval England was...not the fairest human being. Today, taxes are based on your circumstances. Back then, the tax collector did not give a fuck. Bad harvest? Too bad, pay the king. Son died fighting in the king's war? Thank you for your sacrifice, now pay the king. Medieval tax collection was closer to a mob shakedown than anything else.
Additionally, Robin Hood was a yeoman awaiting for the return of the "good" King Richard. Trying to disassociate from the government of the time as a yeoman would seems a bit too libertarian for a modern socialist to me. And being PRO-monarchy? Being against the Prince "revolutionising" how England was run up to this point with his taxes and fellow corrupt allies in the palaces and churches? That's unacceptable says the communist stooge, to the gulag with you!
Robin Hood is not a socialist hero, even when you divorce him from the nobleman of Loxley background.
All depends where those taxes were going, what they were spent on.
9:30 "see melenials jetting a job is easy just challenge your boss to single combat"
I would absolutely prefer that to the normal way to get a job
Well hey, itll get you free food and lodgings. Jail sounds nice when you put it that way.
@@TheCinderfang As they say in Monopoly: "No rent in jail"
It would certainly be an argument for taking early retirement
The wall of HR is impenetrable
@@TheCinderfang/videos And, in the event that you lose, you won't have to worry about food and lodgings. ;)
“Steal from the rich and give to the poor”
Robin Hood: “Well I AM poor”
Pretty sure he didn't rob the rich because they were rich. He robbed the Sheriff and Archbishop because they were oppressive and overtaxing the people. He also poached the King's Deer.
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 from what I remember, he robbed them because ...
1) to humble them, you may have an honourable role but you are still accountable to the people and you should never forget that.
2) he still needs to pay his men, they aren't working for free
Robin hood: Here's the money from the rich!
The poor: Wow, we are rich!
Robin hood:... Wait!
@@bumblingbureaucrat6110 THANK YOU!!!
Robin Hood: All women are queens!
Sherriff of Nottingham: If she breathes shes a THOT!
*Duel of the Fates intensifies*
White knights vs incels
Thot Destroyer of Nottingham
The Common Enemy: "If she *Thots...* she's a *QUEEN!*
Hehe I just gave the 420th like
Meanwhile I can never abandon the feeling that Prince John got the short end of the rope. He was the guy that introduce innovation to economics, managing to fund a very costly war while reclaiming Normandy, while his brother spent his entire reign doing crusades, getting capchured (later to be bought out by John) and generally wasting his kingdom's money
But don't forget that John was the catalyst for the Magna Carta and the forerunner of rights for all people, not just the wealthy. He was that bad that both peasant and noble ganged up on him to beat him.
John didn't buy Richard's ransom, not only it would make NO SENSE, as he usurped him, he also attempted to bribe Duke Leopold to not release him with the help of King Philip II of France. His skilled administration didn't mean shit when he still alienated the nobility AND the commoners for losing very costly campaigns against France (campaigns that, btw, were meant to get back the lands HE SEIZED to Philip II) _and_ getting his ass excomunicated by the Pope (which was a VERY big deal at the time). And while Richard for all his faults was at least noted to be good-humoured and charismatic, John was considered to be a huge asshole, and cruel even for medieval standards as evidenced when he starved Maud de Braose and (depending on the version) either her husband or son to death for incurring his wrath.
(Dunno why my previous comment disappeared) Nah, you don't need to feel bad for him. First things first, you have to remember that the Magna Carta happened _for a reason_ his innovations didn't mean shit when he still got his ass kicked trying to reclaim Normandy and other french lands, the same costly wars that you mentioned in fact! So you can imagine how the people felt who had to put up with the taxes meant to fund these disastrous campaigns felt. The fact that he got excommunicated in a fiercely catholic era also didn't help matters.
And by the way, John did NOT buy his brother back, I seriously wonder who invented this nonsense and why people believe in this, John USURPED him, ask yourself, why, in all that is holy and sacred, WOULD AN USURPER WANT THE RIGHTFUL HEIR THAT HE GOT RID OF, BACK?!! He and King Philip II even tried to bribe Holy Roman Emperor Henry VI in order to keep him away for more time!
Also, it's not difficult to find chroniclers thinking of him as a huge prick; something that constrasts Richard, who, for all his faults, was seen as good-humoured and charismatic. John was considered to be cruel even by medieval people, which is a REAL achievement in an era where people could be punished by getting flayed alive, like Richard's murderer! Maud de Braose, a former court favorite of John, after incurring his wrath was infamously locked in a dungeon of Corfe Castle, while sources differ on whether she was with her husband or son, what is known _is that they starved to death_ the specific source that says she got locked up with her son says SHE ATE THE FLESH OF HER SON'S CHEEKS. So yeah, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for him, quite the opposite!
Robinhood: *gives a stolen fortune to his poor friends*
Friend: "wow thanks! I'm rich!"
Robinhood: *narrows eyes* "you're what?"
"Am I just a joke to you..."
"I'm rich in the good wa- wait, why are you pulling out your bow? It's only the two of us here...Wait, Robin? ROBIN?!"
"What I meant to say is that I'm a good king, and you're pardon. haha don't kill me."
Communism at its finest.
@@lego007guym8 lol no
"Just engage your boss in single combat-"
Thanks Red! I knew I was missing something in my interviews.
all you need is some class strugle and you're on the highway to getting the dream job of your life.
"In your cover-letter you said you would stand firm and fight with honor,
but seeing as there are more holes in you than your cv atm,
tell you what,
if you make it to my lunchbreak without bleeding out,
the position is yours."
"So what can you offer this company?"
*Applicant stands and draws a sword.*
"I see..." *Interviewer also stands and draws a sword.*
Send your cv via an arrow! That'll be sure to get their attention!
Interviwer: sorry we cant take you
Me: I demand trail by combat!
Interviewer already reachimg for his sword: you utter fool
It took me until I was at least 10 to figure out that Robin Hood was not, in fact, originally an anthropomorphic fox voiced by Brian Bedford. Thanks Disney.
And what a disappointing realization that was
How about (names basically every Disney plot ever)?
Same haha
I mean, that's arguably the best version of Robin Hood there is
Same. I will forever live that version though, and the film it's from.
Something I think should be known, as I personally find it quite interesting...
See, Robin Hood is an amazing folk tale, with an amazing set of characters... But I wanted to find out just WHO Robin Hood was. Where did his story start? What led to the creation of the character of Robin Hood? Well, I ended up learning this... From a very unlikely source.
So, do you know the game "Persona 5"? In it, the main characters actually have these powers that come from these things called- well- Personas that emerge from their soul. Normally, they're based on deities, but in Persona 5, they're first based on fictional characters that were well known thieves, as that fit the theme of the game. Normally, in the games, there was this thing known as 'Awakening', where the Persona would effectively evolve, becoming something completely different. In this case, they would become deific figures who, in some way shape or form, had been to hell and got out safe and sound. Susano'o, Anat, Son Wukong (referred to by his alias, Saiten Taisei), and so on.
However, in Persona 5 Royal, there were third awakenings, which not only provided remastered looks for the previous Personas, but also the original names of the characters that became the fictional thieves from before. For example, one such character uses Captain Kidd as his Persona, who eventually becomes the aforementioned Saiten Taisei, who then evolves into William, Obviously referring to the pirate William Kidd. One such character started out using the Persona of Robin Hood, and in his third awakening, the Persona becomes someone known has 'Hereward'. This interested me, so I did some digging...
Appaerently, the story of Robin Hood POSSIBLY began with an Anglo-Saxon by the name of Hereward the Wake (yes, his Epithet is 'The Wake'. Do with that what you will), a nobleman who lead the resistance against the Norman Conquest of England, which lead to him becoming an outlaw in England. Now, I say POSSIBLY, because we don't actually KNOW if this is true. We just know that he is the most prominent take on the rebellious soldier in the area at that time, and what with the existence of William the Conqueror at the time, the idea isn't so farfetched.
RUclips about to demonetize this video:
Red hiding everything wrong: All is good *in the robin hood*
"And people do... a lot!"
Flashbacks to Robin Hood fighting robots in Dr Who...
"Just remember, Doctor, I'm as real as you are."
thinks about Robin Hood's characterization in Once Upon A Time
I'm SORRY????
King Richard: From this day forth, all the toilets in this kingdom shall be known as "johns"!
the modern toilet was actually invented by one John Crapper. Hence the slang
“TAKE HIM TO THE TOWER OF LONDON! Make him part of the tour!”
@@dylanchouinard6141 Noooooo!
@@davidmillerstavroulakis1421 yeeeesssss
@@colepoweredproductions6222 not quite? Thomas Crapper invented the U-bend and the floating ballcock, but not the modern toilet in form, just some improvements. Crap was already in common use before he started his company so that's not where that word comes from either. Referring to toilets by a masculine name beginning with J has a tradition at least predating Elizabeth I, as John Harrington, the inventor of the flush toilet, wrote of his new invention in 'A New Discourse of a Stale Subject, Called the Metamorphosis of Ajax' Ajax referring to the common practice at the time of calling the toilet a "Jakes"
I just find it funny that an entire generation's image of Robin Hood is an anthropomortic fox.
An anthropomorphic fox that they want to @$&#.
"First you just engage your boss in single comba... "
Yes. Please. Yes.
Josh Mitt T posed on my boss, he T posed back but because my T was larger, I won
Ah yes, the Klingons preferred way for Promotions.
@@KumaoftheForest tell me about I just figured out why I kept getting passed up for promotions. Time to bulk up!
“Man, Robin always goes out like a punk in these stories.”
I know!!! My favorite is a contemplation of Robin’s stories where the meetings with his Merry Men, and then at the end; I found a version where it was like SUPER dramatic and Robin gets bled to death (per usual), but with his last bit of strength he shoots an arrow out the abbey window and then declares that wherever the arrow lands he should be buried.
Up until this point in my life I had never heard that Robin actually died in any of the narratives. I always thought he was immortal or at least plot-wisely immortal; and stories just kept getting made and retold about him like cartoon characters. Or the story always got left at “happily ever after” and I never needed it to go past that.
Also there was this really dramatic bit of dialogue between Robin and Little John and I cAnT- *Sobs in a corner*
Oh wow, I'd somehow forgotten that particular melodramatic scene... Ach...
There's a movie version of the story called Robin and Marian, starring Sean Connery and Audrey Hepburn that has Maid Marian joining a convent while Robin went off to fight the crusades for 20 years. When he comes back, he wants to get back into the swing of things, but he's too old by this time, ends up injuring himself, and Marion does a murder/suicide poison thing so they both die. Kind of sad.
First of all: what story? I want to read it now. And second we read some Robin Hood storys in class and everyone else was like: Bluh, old English! And I was in the corner laughing myself sick because boys have barely changed in hundreds of years.Testosteron is still testosterone and makes people do stupid stuff and poschure. Then when we read Guy of Gisborn and I (a sucker for drama and power of friendship) couldn't even when Little John absolutely fliped when he though Robin was dead and it was just so sad and aaaaaaa.
WARNING!! BBC robin hood third season ends with robin dying. I've loved the serie and cried really ugly with the death scene. Sorry English is not my first language
Man, I sure hope that arrow didn't hit anybody.
I've never heard the story of Marian going solo and being a badass. Now that story is all I want in ANY future Robin Hood story XD
I actually read a book similar to that where she's a falconer.
@@amyvillanueva3442 Neat :)
Well in the BBC series from 2006 she is sort of her own Robin Hood and did that even before he came back from the crusade. She is just more subtle than he is in that show.
There actually is a movie about her in the works starring Margot Robbie.
It's been a while but I'm pretty sure she's pretty badass in Robin McKinley's _The Outlaws of Sherwood_
I love osp so much but as somebody who listens to them with high volume in the car so I don't miss the talking parts, I am SO GLAD there aren't as many music jump scares in the newer things.
From what i understand, Robin Hood basically tried to keep "authorities" on their toes, and victimised said authorities whenever they were victimising the common people. It's why the Sheriff of Nottingham (et al) are never mentioned by name, only by title, unlike the Merry Men. It also explains why Robin was cool with "nice" authority figures.
The Robin Hood stories aren't about "proto-Communism"; they're about the idea that "with power comes responsibility".
Yeah the "rich" were politicians who actually stole from the poor.
@Frank Castle ...how?
I don't believe that he's a proto-communist, but how the hell is Robin Hood a proto-Libertarian? His sole character trait is violating the NAP to redistribute wealth.
Not a libertarian, but I know enough about libertarian theory to know the only reason they'd lay claim to Robin Hood is because he's popular, and they wanna be.
@Frank Castlemaybe Im mistaken, but I have never seen a libertarian argue for redistribution of wealth.
“With power comes responsibility.”
Are you trying to tell me that Robin Hood is Spider-Man?
@@geekweek9673 ... No. [sweats nervously]
“See, Millennials, getting hired is a snap! First you just engage your boss in single comba-“ The cutoff made that even funnier.
Red has the BEST comedic timing I love it XD
@@Verity58 Yup, one of the many reasons this is my favourite youtube channel. XD
Robin Hood & Marian unknowingly fighting one another before realising the others' identity & bandaging one another up all lovey-dovey gives me a warm fuzzy feeling
Like Lion King
"Money can't buy you love, but it can buy you historical documentation."
Every Notary Public nods.
"The forrests be infested by them robbin' hood."
"Robin Hood you say? Hmmm."
"Robin Hood laughs in the face of all! HA HA HA!"
"And do people ever punch you in the face when you do that?"
"Not as yet!"
"Lucky I'm here then, isn't it."
And this is my spoon. En garde!
ah doctor who i loved their interaction with each other
"Wow, if you were real with this many diseases you would be dead."
"But I am real."
"Goodbye."
i love that episodee
Honestly one of 12s best dynamics
Robin Hood: One of the only times that toning him down for the kiddies made him better!
Though I wish the "Maid Marian disguises herself as a dude and beats Robin in a badass swordfight" endured a little more strongly.
Right? I'd never even heard that version and now I WANT IT
Kevin Costner's movie had a version of that swordfight.
Paul Wagner Yeah but the climax is like 50% super uncomfortably direct and uncut Maid Marian getting sexually assaulted. :/ Guess it was just too progressive to make her handy in a fight and unvictimized.
@@opheliapurple True. And even in the fight Robin has to win instead of the other way around.
She’s right! I love writing and I have done almost an entire story about his daughter and I literally can add any info I want because there are no sold sources! It’s AMAZING!
13:25
that moment when you realize that robin hoods gang is a five man band
Oh. 😮
😎
Robin Hood: Leader
Little John: Lancer/Big Guy
Allenidale: The Heart
Will Scarlet: The Smart Guy
Maid Marian: A very competent The Chick
Actually there’s usually a lot more Merry Men. It’s simply that few are named.
Basically every band is a five man band if you look at it at an angle, there's always a leader or what acts like one and always a possey of either 1 trick wonders or swiss army knives for people, the three musketeers is a three man band and sometimes 4
"He's like King Arthur in the way that his legends have persisted through time."
Yes, they will be remembered all right....as cute anime girls with Noble Phantasms.
except Robin Hood is still a guy in Fate
@@xyndraxyndra9645 Wait there are male character in fate?
@@xyndraxyndra9645 And best boi too. He's been my archer since day 1
@@shadowofdimentio4618 Robin Hood best boi. Remember to treasure Robin Hood boyos.
@@Giorgakis96 Ever saw big boy Iskandar?
_Oh Merry Meeeeeeeen!_ (Ta da, da da da da - whoo!) _I steal from the rich and give to the needy..._ (He takes a wee percentage...) _But I'm not greedy - I rescue pretty damsels, man I'm good!_ (What a guy, ha ha, Monsieur Hood!) _Break it down..._ *Irish step dance* _I like an honest fight and a saucy little maid..._ (What he's basically saying is he likes to get...) _Paid! So, when an ogre in the bush grabs a lady by the tush, that's bad!_ (That's bad, that's bad, that's bad!) *snapping* _When a beauty's with a beast it makes me awfully mad!_ (He's mad, he's really, really mad!) _Now I'll take my blade and ram it through your heart. Keep your eyes on me, boys, 'Cause I'm about to STAAAAAAAAAAART..._
ROFL. awesome!
*I CAN LITERALLY HEAR THIS*
*KICK TO THE FACE!*
A person of culture I see...
I think this is the most-forgotten part of Shrek.
Speaking of the movies about Robin Hood, the animated version is will forever have a place in my heart