My only issue with Midnight's death is that there needs to be closure, but with the exception of Ashido hearing the goon that killed her being loud about sticking it to the heroes "like that UA teacher," I don't think there's been any more reference to it beyond that. I stopped reading after getting to that chapter, so I don't know if his fate gets addressed later, but so long as it's shown that SOMEBODY gets justice or at least revenge for that death I don't feel like that death was done appropriately
MHA is the living embodiment of the old writers saying, "If you find yourself constantly thinking about what your characters should do rather than their roles being obvious you probably have too damn many of them..."
Clearly you haven’t witnessed the Allegiances pages in a Warrior Cats novel because just like MHA there are too many damn characters and most of them are background characters that exist to fill up the population. The only difference is in Warriors it makes family trees stupidly complicated and some romance between characters incest .
World Trigger: Skill issue legit world trigger shows how to do massive cast of characters and still having great consistant characterization and balancing the cast properly.
It really doesn't though and none of these examples even proved how the story is actually bad or even the arc It's more opinion based than anything else.
Y'know, sometimes I wish stories like MHA and RWBY just stayed in that simple era, where there was danger and villains to fight, but it's still just a story about teenagers in high school or something. I have no problems with darker storylines or favorite characters dying, but when it's not handled well, it just sours the whole experience.
I agree. I watch RWBY and I feel that they have really lost themselves throughout the seasons. I'm fine with the dark storyline but it shows that the writers are coming up with ideas as the show goes along and doesn't really have a plan overall.
@@Mauricio0973 Exactly! Like you expect me to believe that there aren't any seniors or upperclassmen who are more qualified to work with the officials? My main problem with RWBY is that they don't really suffer any consequences for their actions. They lied to Ironwood and didn't trust him despite him helping them, they fought and defeated the ace ops with the small of amount of training that they had, and more stuff that I can't come up right now. Not only that but in MHA you have Deku gaining multiple quirks in one year and somehow he has the skills to go against the top villains? I understand that he's smart but there's no way he mastered the Black Whip in a few weeks.
I think that might not be the problem, the problem is the writing Yeah sure it can turn dark but with good writing it will still be good heck even better
1. Apples to oranges. They're both action stories with kids in a specialized school for people with superpowers, but that's where the similarities end. Consider: ruby rose does not get significantly faster or stronger throughout the series. She just gets better at her job. 2. Late rwby fucking rules. Sure, there was a bit of a dip in v4-5, but they got over that and the whole atlas arc was just amazing! Still holding out hope for a v10 greenlight 3. V3 is the community agreed upon best volume and it's the one where that "simplicity" falls to the ground and shatters into a million pieces.
I'm not surprised that Horikoshi fumbled so hard in that arc, I was fully aware of their writting issue the moment I realized that Overhaul was a much more compelling antagonist than Shigaraki and that they realized it as well so they litterally took away his arms so he could never come back into the story despite his philosophy and woes of the world being much more interesting to explore than whatever hand boy ever had.
Thank you. Shigaraki is such a terrible villain he always came off as forced, from when he was first introduced up until in the Shie Hassaikai arc it was always "pls take him seriously" and then they turned him into Goku during the war arc to make him cool, he himself doesn't have anything interesting to his character he constantly gets fed new stuff by the plot to somehow make him work wich it doesn't so they brought AFO back
@@generalkenobi1972 Exactly, not only that but getting rid of Overhaul makes me ask questions I know about the world of MHA that are never resolved imo : - Isn't Overhaul right in thinking Quirks might be a mutation and therefore not the right path for humanity ? - I think quirk discrimination would have been a very interesting subject to explore : maybe the ideas of certain quirks being considered evil or awful and people being segregated on the level of danger their quirk can be. - The heavy focus on Japan makes you wonder what happens in other part of the world ? Maybe some countries are very harsh on quirk regulation and the likes. What about other groups akin to Shigaraki's that's already active, like terrorist groups maybe ? I know the story is supposed to be Deku's (which is funny when there's an arc dedicated to the villains) but the credibility of the world seems to fall apart when there's way to much questions and ideas that could've been answered and explored.
@@chipslight738 And let's not even forget that Overhaul seems to realize that quirk singularity is an actual issue that would happen and how disastrous it would be for humanity and how removing quirks to some degree is the only solution. Which at no point is anything contradicting that shown. Like hell Quirk Singularity is both a power up for Deku and Shigaraki essentially and we see how destructive that is. Which I guess means Overhaul is right.
MHA went through several changes in themes. Horikoshi's vision changed somewhere in the middle. Tge whole point Shigaraki being finally liberated is just...pointless(?). Hori made us so invested in Shigaraki only to pull the rug under from us.
I absolutely loved this arc, but had many big issues with it, like Midnight's death and the wasted potential of the PLF. But Shigaraki being controlled by All For One was the peak of awful writing. This video hit the nail on the head. Not only did it make what All Might did pointless, but it reversed pretty much all of Shigaraki's development. It got on my nerves so much. Why do shows keep doing this? They set up this awesome young prodigy villain, only to throw in the same one dimensional guy the heroes defeated 3 seasons ago. It's just like how they made Palpatine come back instead of letting Kylo Ren be the main antagonist.
The writing was peak during the tournament and stain arcs. All Might vs AFO was good too. It sorta fumbled with Overhaul and other stuff but pulled itself back together with MVA. Now it's just a mess
Exactly... gran Torino deserved to die and his last words should have been "some people can only be saved by killing them." That would have organically pushed Deku into the dark Deku arc with so many pro heroes dead as well as a mentor's death.
@@unioneye1087it's not like it wasn't being edgy before (Midoriya's whole vigilante arc) and different understandings of what it takes to be a hero is actually relevant to the plot.
I will always take solid writing and predictable twists that make sense over the "shock twist" that comes out of nowhere that destroys the reality the author built. I will also forever be salty about how EVEN IN DEATH SCENES the ladies of MHA are sidelined and used as props for other characters. In this case, Midnight isn't even a prop since everyone forgets she even existed in the first place. C'mon, man. Do better.
Got to agree with you there. I mean, the EASIEST Character to gain development from her Death was Mineta Minoru! I mean, he got worried when Midnight was mentioned to hold the line, practically begging them to contact Midnight and see if she needed help. ...So basically, having Midnight be confirmed KIA, should have involved development for Mineta, to become a stronger person so he wouldn't lose anymore of his friends and mentors, and I can actually see him being noted to pray every now and then to those killed during the attack by the LOV, not just to midnight, but many others.
@@Victor-056 yeah but Class 1 A consists of two people and 18 cardboard cutouts. If its not Deku or Bakugo, Horikoshi doesn't care enough to write character for his characters.
man, it seems like so many superhero story authors these days forget that pure shock value impacts a reader once, while a well written plot point an attentive reader could even see coming will impact them for a LONG time.
It feels like author is rushing the story. Introducing many characters then killing them off immediately, or characters we've known for too long but no real character development. I think it would be good if the author emphasize on "academia" more. Like we get to see the gang when they are 3rd year or at least graduated to the MHA and become pro before the final war.
True it's called my hero academia and they legit leave after like 3 seasons and most of the time we only see them being in hero training and less normal life things
i also do wish they had more emphasis on hero things that aren't just fighting, like you had the USJ arc, which got interrupted by villains and then just more fighting, and then the second part in the provisional exam arc, which again, get interrupted by 'villains' and devolves into more fighting they can't seem to figure out how to make things interesting without combat
MHA for its whole entirety never had the balls to kill characters who actually matter, so thats why the ones who do die, get treated like garbage anyway
(Spoilers for pre-timeskip One Piece) A bit late but a big thing people complain about when it comes to One Piece is that nobody dies, so when Ace dies, it's absolutely shocking- in a good way. Him being freed had SO MUCH buildup, so when he dies as soon as he was freed, it's just gut-wrentching and tear-jerking. It also has an actual impact on the story too, characters all around have a reaction to it, and it leaves a lasting impact with Luffy, with him having a lasting change of attitude. Oda also managed to make Whitebeard's death impactful for somebody who was only part of that single arc, along with the small snippets you hear of him throughout the series. Both charcters are properly built up- and most importantly- have actually impactful deaths. Though they are also quite different I guess, considering when they died they were a major focus within their arc. But without them, the arc still manages to, you know, make the loss surrounding the war ACTUALLY impactful, rather than just "Oh no! People died! How sad... lets move on"
The fact midnight was effectively fridged bothers me so much, I wasn't particularly fond of her she made me uncomfortable when she was on screen but she did NOT deserve the fridging treatment
i dont think midnight was 'effectively fridged'. Fridging means that characters sole purpose is to die or be tragically abused causing the main characters to be motivated to level up or something. But there was no indication about midnight being someone important that the characters will be impacted by her death, matter of fact Hirokoshi failed to do deaths so badly. Midnight was just so-so. Ochaco, Gran Torino or heck All Might were the better choices to kill off. Those who died were just sidelined as explained by OP including Nighteye, I just forgot he even existed after his arc.
6:20 this was one of the many plot points or world building elements that Horikoshi introduced at some point but just decided that it didn't really matter. He's the anti-oda at this point. Instead of introducing a lot of elements to give us the sensation that the world is massive, he just throw shit around the arcs to make it appear that the bnha world is more interesting that it actually is.
One thing that annoyed me about this arc is the ridiculous ass-pulls when it comes to Shigaraki's power. His quirk is decay, so when he uses it, the town starts to crumble cuz he's grown in power. That makes sense to a degree. But then the show tries to tell us that while his quirks are being erased by Aizawa, he can fly through the air, take Endever's strongest attacks directly with little damage, and eventually morph his body like Akira? BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. Every time they make any progress the story gives Shigaraki some new random bullshit advantage and it's frustrating.
Eraser specifically was shown to be unable to erase mutant type quirks. We tend to associate improved durability and strength with enhancer quirks, but their continued function in this case indicates otherwise. Also, Shigaraki wasn't flying. He was just doing All Might's fake flying trick (super jumps plus punching/kicking the air hard enough to alter his trajectory). There's plenty of bad writing to criticize in this arc, but these specifically draw on stuff we've been shown earlier in the show.
@@violeth2255 Maybe. But they specify in the manga when he starts spouting massive fingers everywhere that it's not a quirk. That his body can just do that, which even if true is something I think is bullshit. Enhanced durability after going through an intense experimental treatment is reasonable, though questionable in this regard considering the amount of damage he took. But the massive body morphing going on without access to quirks is nonsense.
All they had to say is that the body naturally keeps regenerating parts that doesn't need (fingers in this case because of trauma) and he needed a self suppressing quirk to stop that from mutating him too much but since Aizawa erased all of Shigaraki's quirks now the mutations aren't suppressed anymore. A stretch? Sure but still better than "oh that's just what it does now... Because science I guess?"
Eraser;s power only works on quirks that require activation. for example one for all, todoroki's flame, bakugo's explosions. His power does not work on powers that are constantly active and are part of physiology, like froppy, that octopus dude, etc. for shiggy his changed body is operating more like one of those quirks than something that needs activation.
one thing that really set me off abt the future of this series was giving deku multiple quirks. it could probably be made decent but how is anyone expected to keep up with deku who can use over 100% and like 6 other quirks. i wish it was more about everyone having to work together with how long they had spent together as friends/classmastes.
THANK YOU. As soon as deku used black whip and they said that he would be able to use their quirks i was mad disappointed cuz he was already crazy powerful. Then it's like yeah lets just smack him with a bunch of quirks
Exactly. Even a Deku that was nearly about to drop from exhaustion, didn’t eat, fought consecutively without rest was still giving the rest of Class 1A a hard challenge. So where’s the tension if even a Deku that is severely weakened can still accomplish so much?
It was cool to see him use the six other quirks, but it never really made sense to me, both for the story and in universe. Though maybe if there was an actual downside like the rest of one for all it would've made sense.
@@silverfang8717 some random downsides due to the “stockpile power” quirk might be to have that interact with the other quirks. Maybe blackwhip can literally rip Deku’s own skin and such from overuse
That was when this series died for me. It absolutely ruined his rematch with Shinso, who busted his ass to get stronger just to lose to an asspull. It was very disrespectful.
That's one of the biggest problems with Horikoshi's story: NOBODY DIES no matter how hard they get hit, and it makes readers feel that we are just stuck and not getting anywhere.
@@Soniman001 No it really isn't. Seeing Gran Torino getting impaled by Shigaraki should've been instant death but nope he's just in the hospital chilling.
I AGREE! Midnight's death scene was BULLSHIT! Besides, she could have put them all to sleep to by time or when Vlad King should have stormed in to help her out and show us viewers his badass Blood Control Quirk moves. This could lead into a new potential ship and more.
@@RushWheeler while I do agree with you, I think it would be nice to see at least one couple come out of the copious amounts pro heroes with good chemistry with one another. Vlad and Midnight could've been that couple but alas, she got hit with the power of Off-Screen.
Yeah i completely dropped mha due to the war arc. Specifically the all for one twist. Horikoshi shit the bed in regards to that arc and it basically ruined all the most interesting parts of the story for me. All for one by himself is a boring as hell villain the most interesting thing about him was the dark inversion of all mights relationship with deku. How he was legitimately shigaraki's all might. Except it turns out he just wanted to take shigaraki's body like orochimaru. Honestly i feel like a lot of mha's concepts are half baked. The hero association breeding complacency in society, people with quirks like Toga who are put in a position to be villains due to societies inability to accommodate them, quirk marriages, etc etc. All of these flaws of the hero society are barely fleshed out and judging how shigaraki's story devolved into the most standard version of itself i have zero faith in horikoshi to do them justice.
this series only barely touched a bunch of potentially deep topics that could put it in the level of hunter x hunter or some "more mature shonen" classic like that but flopped on all of them.
@@Koraxus true, for example the revelation that certain quirks can come with influences on personality can potentially reframe Bakugo AND endeavors actions as byproducts of their quirks but as far as i know it's not even addressed. If quirks can influence the users behavior what about someone who can give others quirks like all for one? Does that mean he can change people's personalities? Does one for all influence deku at all? What if one for all was somewhat responsible for some of the solo hero tendencies of its users, like Nana shimura abandonment of her son and deku's vigilante ark. That alone could be interesting to explore.
@@mr.protagonist5639 that and the whole societal aspect of it which is mentioned lots of times but rarely ever organically developed how are other countries ran? are there dictatorships? is there some victor von doom like guy governing a dictatorship? the whole discrimination stuff also felt very hamfisted during the spinner moments
@@Koraxusthe only thing we know about other countries is star and stripe. but we all know how pointless she was to the overall story, we could excise her every appearance and nothing of value would loss. Zero impact to the story.
It's a shame because an inversion of the whole "Heroes are part of a chosen few" theme really makes for excellent food for thought. Superpowered soldiers and quirk driven war, hell people could potentially start wars over quirks. Quirk economics Discrimination based on quirks Social status effects of quirks , I mean specifically how having an overpowered quirk is the equivalent of being born as the son of a middle eastern oil baron. Quirk marriages and eugenics. Heavy regulations on the use of quirks and quirk legislation. Quirk induced personality disorders The list goes on and on but sadly we'll have to wait for someone else to make use of this theme before we see this withered tree bear fruit.
Right I feel like a bunch of kid learning to use there powers…while dealing with real world problems (at a reasonable pace) would’ve been entertaining enough without adding “only you guys can save the world as freshmen!!”
I feel a story about villians and heros would need a war arc. But it was rushed despite slow pacing. This war arc should have broken out at end of 2nd year or beginning of 3rd year that would have made more sense.
im a former manga fan and let me tell you, back when everyone was hyping the war arc up i said yo war arc is actually kinda shit, it got so bad and people got so angry at me i had to close my twt account for a while 💀💀dark times
I've been forcing myself to slog through it just because I want to know the fates of my favorite characters. But I'll legit put my phone down and walk away sometimes bc WHY!?
I was a pretty big fan of the series up until the end of this arc while still liking some elements and characters so I’ll go over each segments Kurogiri: i agree on pretty much every point, just wanna point out that Shirakumo had a crush on Midnight but they were never on a relationship, still pretty weird to leave her out completely, specially since there’s a 3 month timeskip between the hospital meetint and the war arc and her character never shows signs of knowing about the Kurogiri ordeal
Compress: no arguments here the entire twist was pointless and added nothing, as you mentioned, the entire reveal could have happened either on his introduction or in the my villain academia arc, i still like the character and his sacrifice but his backstory doesn’t add anything and he is pretty much ñforgotten by the remaining league members
Midnight: You are spot on, the only thing I disagree is with her being a good character to begin with as she was mostly used for fanservice and weird gags of her thirsting over the students, the lack of reaction from characters that were close to her is ridiculous
Best Jeanist: the single thing i want to point out here is that it was stablished across the series that the heroes aren’t legally allowed to kill villains, Hawks and Nagant are the only exception since they did their dirty work undercover, All Might “killing” AFO was kept a secret too and after being imprisoned they were still working on getting him the death sentence, That’s why Dabi exposing Hawks murdering Twice was meant to be a big deal i have no defense for Endeavor and Deku openly trying to murder Shigaraki though besides the situation being extremely dire and i do think Jeanist would have been extremely useful early on the war and that Hawks somehow sneaking past the PLF to revive him is hella dumb
Shigaraki: AFO coming back is the single worst thing that ever happened to this series and makes the later arcs a pain to read while retroactively destroying so many good prior moments, i HATE him so much
Council of OFA: you can definitely tell the author wanted to do a lot more with this plotline but for some reason after the war he started rushing the entire series which means potentially good plotlines and characters get flanderizes to get the plot moving as fast as possible, it’s a shame cause the saving villains aspect of the series is wonderful and could have done a lot for Deku’s and Hawks characters (who just seemingly forgets about Twice inmediately after and doesn’t even bring him up when meeting Nagant)
MHA has always been incomplete. It feels like someone came up with a basic concept, immediately started winging it, then went to trope bootcamp and learned how to create climactic moments but missed half the lessons on how to set them up. In a war arc, this is going to be especially painful as you really need to earn those climaxes due to the gravity that character death holds. Especially if, up to this point, you've killed almost no one off.
Not only was midenight killed off screen by grunts but they didnt even show her go out with a fight . I get it , in writting Sometimes you want to kill off a character suprsingly fast which would give a shock effect yet the thing is is that Midnight had fallen and taken some damage yet she didnt die . She told the kids instructions as grunts ran towards her . It'll be cool if she stood up and started to fight against maybe four or five villains and come out on top only to faint after the battle is over . As he see her on the ground , we can get a first person POV as she is laying on the ground yet still hears more villains coming . Meanwhile we can focus on a hero who gathers maybe two more other heroes to go and rescue Midnight . Its possible they heard that the teacher had fallen from gigantomachia since she was the biggest key to knocking the Giant out . Maybe they heard from kamui or maybe a hero saw her fall off yet a small extraction team of heroes would be a cool episode to see . Especially considering that most MHA heroes arent really " Avenger " levels . I dont always like to compare the two but I cant help but see so many heroes struggle against no name indivisuals . Also the plan that the detective had made wasn't necessarily bad but when he had said " lets take them out in one swoop " me and ny brother looked at each other and smirked simply because the plan was good yet the ingredients to make it work was lacking . Interesting Arc and I loved Uraraka vs Toga , Twice Death , Dabi dance and some more yet overall I saw some flaws .
Overall, if the whole avengers and guardians of the galaxy armies (especially wakandans, sorcerers and ravagers). Went in to this war, they would've handled shigaraki and machia completely perfect. As for machia they could send in scarlet witch, ant man, hulk and yondu in order to subdue him from rushing to shigaraki. However for shigaraki, they can send in captain marvel, iron man, thor, doctor strange and war machine to have a showdown against him.
@Yveltal_IX yeah just about , I have a lot of faith in those hero teams and the armies that helped out to support their respective heroes . Also with most heroes we know thier feats , what makes them tick and how they'll rise to an occasion from comic to screen . As for mha the heroes, more specifically the pro heroes haven't shown to have thier own nemesis or even have a series of fights that we could analyze enough with . Most of them are just there as other had one good fight and then a handful had maybe three and up which is more perfered . Personally I would like the war arc to show a Fatgum fight against a strong Villain . Rocklock against maybe two opponents at once yet he drops them . Kamui Woods against maybe a termite opponent who is super physically powerful and can demolish wood yet kamui struggles and wins and so on and so forth . This'll show that they aren't one trick ponies and that they too can fight against new opponents and overcome them even if it is hard . That'll also give the audience more anticipation for later arcs with the pro heroes since we saw how they handle situations without having Allmight or Endeavor to carry the weight .
I think on a fundamental level Horikoshi just can't do serious stories. He's at his best when the story was more slice of life and Deku is learning lessons in how to be a hero and control OFA. Him going to classes and doing training missions with his classmates and his interactions with characters like Ochako and Iida were the absolute peak of MHA. The low stakes stories where the plots are more light with a heavier focus on comedy and Deku's character development were better than any serious story. Whenever the story would start to get more serious I found myself snoozing because I felt no investment in the plot. Stain, for any potential he had, came in and left in a whirlwind without his hypocrisy being properly explored, All Might meeting him and expressing disdain for his evil which would absolutely change Stain, and there's no real development given for that subplot before Stain is defeated and carted off. Hell he needed to face the reality that even someone as awful as Endeavor was still saving people even if it was self interested, which is more than Stain ever did. Heck even from the beginning the entire situation with Bakugo bullying Deku and telling him to kys is never treated as seriously as it should have showing Horikoshi didn't realize just how awful he made Bakugo. Bakugo does get development later but it took numerous years for him to even get a slight bit of development from being a psychopathic bully. Most of it was treated as him being a joke but even the pro heroes would go "Wow he's so strong" and ignore how he's a nasty bully who has the behavior of a villain. It was super offputting that someone as awful as Bakugo wasn't treated seriously like it's just a silly comedy then the story would turn around and beg us to take the villains seriously as they want to kill All Might. The whiplash was unreal. I found all of the villains from the very start to be extremely dull and boring and did not care for a single one of them. I stopped reading the manga during the forest arc because the villains showed up and I could not muster even a slight care. It was just impossible for me to care about the villains and they had quickly taken over the plot as really important which made me want to just not read it. I had to take a long time to think about why I had such a repulsed reaction to the villains and I think I figured it out. Unlike in comic books or comic shows like Batman The Animated Series, we don't get proper set up or development of villains. When Poison Ivy, Riddler, or Mr. Freeze are introduced in BTAS they each get a whole episode dedicated to their introduction, motivations, abilities, and their dynamic with Batman. MHA lacks that entirely. Sure we have AFO acting as the man behind the man orchestrating everything and he's clearly set up as All Might's nemesis, but what about the other villains? It would have helped so much more if the story took longer to establish these antagonists. Let each of them get a chapter or two to show who they are and what they're about before they're all called in for the MHA equivalent of the Injustice League. Have at least some of them get set up as antagonists for the pro heroes where we can see that they've been around for a while and have a particular beef with a certain hero, or give them a proper introduction where the main characters witness a pro hero fight them to establish their threat level. Wait until much later for them to actually team up under AFO's machinations. It's rushing to get a point where I honestly don't think it ever needed to be at. The stakes never needed to be so high that main characters are killed off. I honestly told myself years ago when I picked up chapter 1 that the story felt like if any of the notable characters actually died that everything would be ruined, and I stand by that. MHA didn't need to be all that serious of a story and should have stuck to the more light hearted low stakes stories, and maybe ended the series on a slightly more serious story where AFO is finally defeated by Deku ending the main conflict between him and the line of heroes using OFA. The story should have gone MUCH slower. Others are comparing it to RWBY and that is an apt comparison. RWBY started off fine, if a bit rough, but tried to rocket past the lower stakes stories of the first two seasons into massive world ending threats in the third killing off numerous major characters and it goes off the rails from there. Now the story flops around from location to location trying to string together a paper thin plot while artificially boosting the threats by destroying cities and killing main characters. They upturned the status quo before there was even a status quo to upturn. MHA tried to dive headfirst into major stories but in order to do that it had to spam the story with a massive amount of characters, which certainly hurt the ability for people like me to stay invested. Why should I care about the villains when a dozen of them are shoved in within a small time frame, and we have 50 good guys introduced so fast I can barely remember most of them and Deku still needs to get the main focus for his development. It would have been better if we got to see Deku and the other students go through the entirety of school before graduating and then later getting as strong as some of the pro heroes. This is a problem with RWBY as well where professionals and upper classmen are not really factored in and only our protagonists seem to really matter. Hell the entire conflict of Volume 3 of RWBY should never have been a big deal with hundreds of students training at Beacon as well as a solid dozen of professionals who are there that should have taken everything down relatively easily. But they get nerfed so only our heroes must fight. If anything I think Horikoshi should have started off with a more firm outline to plan this out, and used classic superhero comics and comic adaptations that showed how you can introduce villains (and in the case of Mr. Freeze in BTAS completely reinvent the character so he's basically brand new) in a more natural manner that would make the set up for bigger stories feel more natural.
That's what I was thinking! Like there are quirks for *everything* and that organization is hunting for kids with quirks they can use. Of course they've been scooping up brainwashing quirks!
With the Kurogiri twist, Horikoshi did fail as while I for one, knew about Shirakumo/Kurogiri twist, that was because I watched a youtube video talking about it, and even then, I didn't read vigilantes so most of the impact was gone. What he should have done is have more of a presence for Shirakumo in the series, with Mic and Midnight dropping hints here and there, Aizawa having quiet movements where he thinks of his friend, maybe even having the show compare something that Mirio, Kirishima or Izuku said to something that Oboro said. Horikoshi is a Big Naruto fan, so he could have borrowed more of the dynamic of Naruto and Obito for Izuku and Oboro, espeicallty since Aizawa already pays Izuku more attention then the other students, so he'll be in a prime positiion to see how selfless Izuku can be and unknowingly compare that to his old friend who saved a little kitten when he refused to. And yeah, Midnight should have been present, or at the very least, been told as as far as we know, she was never informed of this. I can get the two not wishing to tell Oboro's parents of their son's fate, but Midnight is a fellow hero, she can handle it. The Mr. Compress twist feels like it was supposed to come out of nowhere, a means to distract the heroes while the rest of the heroes get away, but at the same time, Mr. Compress should have told the rest of the league about it beforehand, after all, they're serving under the successor to All for One, and during the My Villain Academia arc, were fighting the successor to Destro so surely he would have revealed that he too is descendent from villain royalty. The issue of Midnight's death could have been solved with one thing...time. While it's just poor writing that she dies off screen to nameless grunts while Gran Torino gets the Rengoku treatment and somehow survives, if the story had given the characters and audience time to sit and think about her death, it would have lessen that fault as we don't get to see any of them really react other then the students first finding her corpse, Mic being upset, and Aizawa being a douche about it. They could have easily used the time when Deku was out to show us how the rest of the class and their teachers reacted to it, how they mourned her passing and tried to pick up the pieces to keep fighting...but we didn't get that. With the whole thing with Jeanist, it was stupid, there is no ways about it. Hawks was being watched 24/7 by Skeptic, and he knew it so the idea that he managed to sneak into where Jeanist's body was being kept, and sneak out with said body WITHOUT help is insane and requires too much a suspension of disbelief. Jeanist being kept back till the 11th hour makes sense from a dramatic POV, but that's it, in universe, it makes as much sense as keeping eggs on a cold stove as the heroes planned the date and time of the attack, and considering that Jeanist had the means to get both the jet and the industrial sized fibers, he was very much part of the plan, so WHY hold him back? Even if his health was the reason, considering what he managed to do in his state, holding down the PLF leadership with their cloths would have been much easier. I get that it would end the series faster, or lead to a dissatisfying war arc but then your best option is to simply not include him and either have been be left out the battle as perhaps Hawks signaled to the pros where he was being kept just before the battle, so he was still being recovered...or have it that Hawks really did kill him as while Hawks would hate that he would be forced to do it, considering the stuff the HPSC had Nagant do, it wouldn't be out of character for them to decide that Jeanist life was worth the sacrifice and ordered Hawks to carry through with the League's demands to cement his place among them. It would certainly have been more interesting to hear and see how Tokoyami reacts to this as it would be one thing for his master to kill a fleeing villain to ultimately defeat the PLF, it's quite another for him to kill a fellow top pro to cement himself as thier spy within the PLF, even though without that death, he wouldn't have been able to earn their trust and enough leg room to pass on the crucial information they needed. Tokoyami, and the rest if the cast, might start to think about HOW they value life as how does Jeanist life measure more then Twice's? Why do they draw the line at one and not the other? Were the means justified by the ends? What are they willing to do to maintain order, an order they now know is very much broken? These are all very good questions which...are never addressed. Worst part is that even if Hawks did what you suspected, and faked killing him in front of a PLF grunt who could report back, considering Dabi didn't think he actually killed Jeanist when he had a body to show for it, not having one would only heighten that disbelief, so Dabi would most likely leave it out of his public announcement and used something Hawks did for the commission to dirty his name, as you know he DID if he was Nagant replacement and considering he tracked down Hawks' mom without him or the commission ever knowing, he can probably tie his name to some other bad actions which Hawks and the pros can't immediately disprove. With the whole thing with AFO and the council of OFA, it all comes down to another issue: time. Horikoshi wants the series to end this year, so he had to dumb things down and make the fight much less complicated as which one would take more time to meaningly resolve? The issue of how Shigaraki represents the decay of hero society as a whole and its many faults much like the rest of the League OR All for One just being a evil dude that wants to be an honest to God Demon Lord? With the council of OFA, same thing as I was totally expecting the 2nd and 3rd users to be reluctant to sign on for a long while, with Deku unable to use their quirks for a while...but that would take time and Horikoshi didn't feel like writing something similar to Naruto's struggle with befriend Kurama, even with shortened version, so he speed-ran it off screen. Same thing with how Deku's body suffered no blowback from overusing OFA despite the repeated reminders of its consequences. This review is long enough as is, so I'll end things here.
The issue with a lot of this isn’t that Hori didn’t feel like writing those kinds of ideas and themes, and more so has to do with his health constantly getting in the way. Villain Hunt being as short as it was? Hori was on the verge of death trying to get the arc done so he speed ran through it so he could move on to the other stuff. From what I’ve read about Hori, he seems to be a very troubled individual, as he has constant anxiety, constantly second guesses himself, and always feels like he’s failing his audience by not working on the series in a timely manner. Hori still has trauma of his two other big series, Zoo and Barrage, getting cancelled by Jump, and views taking breaks as him failing and he just refuses to buckle. Does that excuse most of the poor writing decisions, no absolutely not, but it is a reason. I would love to live in an alternate reality where Hori would just put his pen down for a while and just go on vacation, so that he could rest up and properly brainstorm and give his ideas the attention and development they need, but that’s sadly not the world we live in.
@jf4132 Honestly I wouldn't mind in 10 years time if they reboot the series. Like maybe have Hori as a supervisor so he doesn't overwork himself then someone else take the helms of writing it.
@@jf4132 Oh I know, hence why I'm not nearly as salty as I could have been as I can't fault the man when you understand the pressure he's under. If I could speak with him, I would totally advise that he take time off to relax, refill the creative tank, destress and just spend time with friends and family. Naruto proves that fans can wait since its creator told the anime to wait, with is the reason we got part 1 and then Shippuden. Plus, we fans in the 'West' have seen what happens when you rush something that people like with how much the MCU has fallen off the wagon since Endgame so if it came out that he was taking a break to take care of himself and ensure that MHA was still top tier, I can't see too many people having an issue with that.
@@Arkwinder He could pull a Fate and in a couple years, releases the series again, but retold to fix the gaps and even now include the movies into the overarching story. Though he should be wary too, as the Fate timeline is as confusing as it is vast.
I don't think Aizawa was dismissing midnight's Existence i think he just didn't want to know about it, after everything that happened daring that arc he probably just didn't want to know that he couldn't save another person That was his close friend.
Firstly, I do appreciate the politeness. But I don't agree. A. The dialogue in the scene implies Eraser already knew Midnight died, since Mic would have said something around the lines of "Dude, I hate to tell you this, but Midnight was killed." But by the dialogue in the scene, it suggested he knew before Mic brought it up. And B, even if we are charitable and say he learned it like a day ago in universe, he is still a massive dick to Mic, who is his last best friend. So at the very least, he wouldn't be so cold or at least apologize to Mic later. But we never see the latter, so no, I'm still calling this character assassination.
@@ArkwinderAizawa was a complete dick. I was really hoping that moment would lead to Mic confronting Aizaa over his cold behaviour and cause them to fall out. But sadly we do not get that moment.
Midnight was killed just so someone could say "See! The war did have stakes!" and Gran Torino living is just a spit in the face to us. Things only got worse later on with Bakugo which made me drop the manga
It is kind of impressive that War Arc gone from having some really great stuff and pay offs devolved into hype cycle story which destroys own themes as creator wants to end it while suffering from over exhaustion. Most things after it is truly abyss fiction. The mutant plot line is not just offensively bad, it contradicts themes which were the pillars of the main story from the start and even the Vigilante Deku arc.
When i first heard about the arc years ago before i got back into mha i heard that Gran Torino died and then i saw Deku with his scarf and i thought that was Deku holding Torino close to him and having something to remember him by. The fact he survived was kinda crazy
Wow… if you’re going to kill off an important side character we knew from S1 like Midnight, at least give the kill to an established Villain we care about, not some nameless grunt. Imagine if Midnight was killed after a hard-fought battle with Dabi for example. Would’ve been leagues more impactful. And it would’ve made Dabi way more threatening.
I dropped this series two chapters before midnight died because there was just nothing that made me want to read the next chapter. it's a very important factor to me when reading manga, that I want to read the next chapter immediately otherwise I just drop it. the same happened with demon slayer, it's why I stay away from over hyped series. but I remember feeling nothing for midnight when she died, in all honesty I felt worse for Aizawa having lost another friend then I did for her. I don't even remember anything about anyone else that died either. I swear shonens just don't know how to write war arcs cuz this certainly wasn't the first time this has happened and I know it won't be the last, even a girls dress up game wrote a better war than this. it's such a shame cuz this story seemed so cool at first, at least the art looks good. I feel like if midnight hadn't died the arc would have still been just as impactful as it was, the kids still could have been traumatized from finding another heros body so besides the shock value it doesn't feel all that important. interestingly they wouldn't even need to kill off any important characters to make this arc an effective war it just needs better writing, I've been reading a phenomenal war manga recently that hasn't killed off any of the important characters on the protagonist's side whatsoever but it steel reads as a very brutal war cuz the mangaka makes any chance at survival feel completely hopeless. this was a really good video btw so keep up the good work🥰❤
I dont get the hard-on the author has for killing and crippling fan favorite characters. killing off midnight, making so that mirko loses a limb every fight, eraser as well losing a body part every fight, endeavors arm, hawks getting his wings burned off(even tho they grow again, why???) while doing fakeout deaths for other characters like gran torino and bakugo. these cheap pulls at the heartstrings honestly just makes me not care for the characters anymore, also "oh its to show the weight of the war on the characters blah blah" but the students cementoss and present mic are all lokking like they just stayed in a resort. the only one who doesnt is deku while hes on his black swordsman arc. On a separate note it would be really cool if one of the one for all predecessor had a really powerful quirk and wanted nothing more than to kill all for one, trying to take over and all that, kinda like a deku beast of darkness. but i guess it would be taking too much from berserk, even thought it would fit perfectly.
15:22 not finished watching the video yet, but the funny thing is, horikoshi knew jeanist should have arrived early to take care of machia, but held him back on purpose. even jeanist points out that he meant to arrive sooner. i'm happy you made this video bc the war arc is not only so abrupt imo but it's also just that bad lol. i hate seeing people praise it. people overhype the series for no good reason.
Funfact: Geten, aka the evil ice guy in the coat, didnt get a bonus page with like a fullbody. I am angry because a random aizawa backstory character got one. This is irrelevant but im angry about that
Fair. If you want me to be honest, I am upset that the Meta Liberation Army got sidelined during their own liberation war. I think it would have been interesting to show Hanabata’s influence on society because he was a politician or give more build-up to Skeptic to prepare him for being the remaining member of the MLA or let Re-Destro have more moments instead of being defeated off-screen because he was the main antagonist of an arc and being shown to be powerful. Geten is my favourite character and I think it would have been interesting to use him more to build Dabi’s character because of his ideology and the fact that they shared a regiment and a role as a lieutenant. This might also be me caring about unimportant side characters and rambling about nothing.
The major problems I hate about the MHA story is that despite having the money and technology to build all kinds of robots and weapon, they choose to send "child soldiers" to the war zones instead of robots or adult soldiers. Another big issue is the lack of lethal weapons used by heroes. Though some villains are bulletproof, most of the villains are just human with superpower. Heroes with guns will definitely be more useful than just bare hands.
Plus who in the right mind said that only heros need to use thier Quirks Police officers are literally doing the same thing, they also need to use thier Quirks but again this will make heros less special. It's not like they live in a world where everyone is walking time bomb and they need as many of men power to stop it. Also who had the bright idea to keep AFO alive. All might literally killed that man when they had him the second time why not just put him on acid But I guess it's too logical for advanced society
Your little montage of people failing to die should've included Mirko. Girl was all sorts of fucked up but still pulled through lol. Also how could Hawks have gotten Jeanist out of the facility? They put trackers in his wings so they could ensure he would be loyal. He had to talk to Endeavor using highlighted words in a book. They literally knew where he was at all times!
Good video! I feel like Horikoshi is burnt out like a teen writing a fanfic and not updating it for so many years. It shows in his writing and I know once BNHA is done it will be used as an example of how NOT to write a shonen, especially when it comes to handling characters. My biggest gripe is Deku. He never has any character growth. I've been told that he is more confident, but I don't see it at all. I wanted his way of thinking to be challenged. I wanted him to actually experience serious consequences for the damage he puts himself through, I want to see him actially be selfish for once because a normal 16 year old does not act like him 24/7. He basically has become a husk of the hero society that exists today in his world. But I guess thats what Horikoshi gets for making the first words his main protagonist says is being the #1 hero in the world. 😅
Not really used as an example this is how every shounen is. Something like one piece is very successful even with all these same issues. Teen fanfic is basically every shounen is, hxh, fma, yu yu hakusho, one piece all have the same fanfic vibes and dont update or mature their stories. Deku has gotten more confident look at his confrontation with bakugo, shoto and every single confrontation he has had on the story. He does challenge his world view alot his admiration for all might is constantly challenge his belief in himself and him shouldering everything. If he acted selfish it would be a character assassination.
@@baconboi4482 yeah, people often conflate development with change, a character doesn't have to be a completely different person than what they started as in the beginning, it's a decent way to show development through growth but it's not the only way to do it, and won't be effective if you just change their character without delving into character arcs and shit.
@@ginogatash4030 I'm sorry but One Piece, amongst it's great story telling, is maybe one of the worst offenders in having no character development. I would even go as far to say that the characters become *_even more one noted_* after the time skip. The only thing about them that grows, is any of the fighters getting stronger. None of them act, or make decisions differently based on the experiences they've had in the series. Luffy is the worst offender of this as well. Even after ace dies, even after the events that split the crew apart in the first place, he is still just as reckless in his decision making. The only difference being he's now stronger and can be just as reckless but with confidence.
I've never had interest with the series because i always say that i prefer him as anime batman but watching season 1 was okay and then I'm just not interested in season two, and now everyone else is seeing how bad this is
Midnight's death reminds me of GOT deaths, but executed poorly. GOT deaths work, not only because of the shock, but because character's death have a lot of impact on others characters development (I.e: Tyrion's character development in the books) and world in general (starting and ending a war). Midnight's dead could've worked if Horikoshi wasn't such an incompetent writer.
With all these revivals and weird survivings. I can't help but acknowledge how weird the series still is with it's selective damage output. Bakugou for example by all means should be done, no matter what at this point. When we go off of what Hori tried to establish as the healing limitations, to where Izuku even had his combat style turned around unless he wanted to be paralyzed for the rest of his life. The circumstances of how easily avoidable death was for Midnight compared to the characters that DID somehow survive really broke my investment for the series. Especially as someone who was actually reading Vigilantes, invested in how they'd maybe start weaving together the teachers' relationships from it at least. Though from all the really weird larger world building stuff I also heard about earlier in the series, I just genuinely feel glad I did.
I think the shigaraki twist is even worse than you think because I believe what they're doing there is building up to his eventual redemption arc. Its so dumb but I think they're really hinting at something like shigaraki teaming up with MC to fight AFO later.
Honestly, with everything that happened? I think Shigaraki was done PERFECTLY, even if All for One kinda ruined him. He carried most of the MHA story on his back, and had a satisfying end that didn't go full Naruto (Why yes let this mass murderer go free) but also stuck to most of the earlier established narrative themes (saving someone who doesn't want help, the nurturing of the next generation, every Deku and Shigaraki parallel and inversion etc)
my predictions: the villains will die, i dont know about endeavour. Eri will be the plot device that will restore everyone's quirks. Hori will make one last a$$ pull with eri. he has created her for this sole purpose
Midnights death low-key felt like fridging. I mean she was loved by the fandom but overall she wasn't super important, didn't do much for the plot like ever, and literally only two other minor characters died so her death was just there to be impactful to the audience and then literally nothing else.
Hey, hey, hey! It was a little thought out. The killer was given a gas mask to explain why she didn’t just knock him the hell out with her sleep pheromones… or however her power was suppose to work. …but yeah, she should have at least been found surrounded by the knocked out bodies of the rest of those idiots without chemical warfare defenses at the absolute least.
sometimes I want to explain why the second half of my hero is so bad, I cant even figure out how to explain it, theres so many little things that come together to make it bad
Honestly so many deaths happened and so much destruction happened all because they didn’t wanna kill him when they had the chance. Even if Best Jeanist wasn’t there during the mansion raid, Shiggy was unconscious on the floor for a moment and they just say there and watched. They could’ve clocked him out of life early right there, but they CHOSE not to. “Well, we wanted to bring him into police custody and take him to tar-“ NOOOOO
Horokoshi is fantastic artist he draw some of the best visual appealing character's, but dam he should have just stick with the art and leave writing to a professional. Midnight was not even treated as human and The "payback" was massive L
Honestly I was never sure someone would more or less have the same thoughts I had: That in isolation there are a lot of cool moments it’s just in a plot with a lot of head scratching decisions by the characters like todoroki can freeze football stadiums, why did no one think of having him freeze the mansion giving a massive advantage in the long run and plenty of other why did this happen other than the plot demanded it, that’s all fine in isolation but it does kind undermine the theme of the series: Revolutionize Heroism (or in shigirakis case) villainy through succession everyone just kinda bumbles around like action figures more than real humans leading to the near apocalypse, it just kinda feels like all might was right, that the world did need him to continually be a demi god because this clearly proves the world is thoroughly screwed without him and then the 2nd war arc is even worse, undermining more elements from the series and retroactively makes this first war feel increasingly pointless…sigh
@@3dsmaster537 Yes but not knowing it’s gonna happen is the main point, and at the very least seems much more safe than bum rush em and hope for the best with no actual tactics y’know like real wars? In this place that’s supposed to be like the real world y’know?
Although I did forget about geten so that’s still a fair point. Goes to show how much of a clusterf**k this story has been to the point where I hardly remember who’s important or what happened at various points
Mha is fun to think about but I don't fantasize over it , especially as a western hero fan . Simply because the Majority of the hero society actually can't do thier Job properly. So many excuses flood for why they can't rescue or fight properly despite thier " plus ultra " anthem . To be very honest the kids are much better than the Majority of pro heroes . Only a handful of heroes are about mid to high tier in my opinion and honestly that's ok. When I first saw the series I was like hmmm there are already too many pro heroes . The numbers are atleast in the thousands seeing massive stadiums flooded with them . For me a hero can't just be a Job you can sign up for , you need the heart of a Hero . It's with the heart that you'll push past your limits to then fight and save lives although many weren't doing that . Stain called them out which made sense as I loved this approach that Hori did in the series. But the inverse controversial topic was dropped after stains defeat . I was hoping many the recruiting and training system for heroes in MHA would be stricter and more defined yet it wasn't it was the same jolly thing . So when the heroes ran up against Chisaki only a few could handle the Situation , when the war arc came only a few could handle the situation there too and tbh it was barely a war and more like a 6 hour fight which in the context of war is a mere battle . Many fans ignore these strategies or points but it's true , without the handful of good heroes the society would be finished . Black Widow or Hawkeye don't need to be Thor but everyone carries their own weight , even simular to the incredibles in a way. But Gran Torino is cool 😎
idk if it was technically during the war arc, or later, but I'm still salty about Stars & Stripes [spoilers] appearing and dying so near instantaneously. It was like the goofy 'The Guy' player from Spy Kids 3, it's downright parodic. To pull a character out of nowhere to come in and cripple your antag just because you power creeped too far, and kill her off once she's done just feels bad to me. [tho, I still wonder if it's also stress/pressure on the mangakas at times....I know we expect the same quality on and on, but the workloads are still crazy for these creators to me...]
I would seriously yall consider reading or watching iruma kun, the series is fantastic. The characters feel their age and its about a human surviving in a demon world. The series has a measure of growth for all characters and it doesnt collapse under its own weight.😊
this video hits even harder now since we are watching the final arc implode and collapse like a dying star. I'll mourn for Tomura, he was my favorite character but was totally ruined by AfO taking over for reasons, which lets remember we still don't know his end goal or motivation.
Truthfully, this arc was actually my favorite for quite a bit of time, as it was going on and on. All my real issues with it came suddenly, one after the other - how they just brought Mirio back with literally no subtelty, how Gran Torino survived 30% of his body being punctured by Shiggy, how they "resolved" the masked homie's storyline... I consider Tartaros a next arc (well, mini-arc), but if I didn't, I'd also be devastated by how Horikoshi tried to take the wheel away from developed and much more interesting Shigaraki too. I don't know, some of these decisions just literally don't make sense when compared to writing of previous arcs. Don't get me wrong, Hori never was a top-tier storyteller, but he goes on to undermine what was already set up and just ready to serve and I just CAN NOT understand what happened. My man's crumbling - either his editors' doing, his fans' constant nagging or his own immaturity or insecurities as an author seem to be the issue here. I don't want nor like to just gang up on MHA like this. I still appreciate a lot of things about it, but I just hope Horikoshi can learn from this and come back stronger, more focused with a new manga.
Honestly you can very obviously tell that the author didn't really have a clear vision for the story anymore after the Yakuza arc. Everything past that point felt so disjointed. The School Festival and Meta Liberation Army arcs especially felt like intentional filler arcs so the author could give himself time to figure out how to actually continue the story, but after the latter it really seems like he just gave up and decided to sprint to the finish line as fast as possible.
The way I rationalize Aizawa’s reaction is basically that it’s the point that he’s being so cold. Aizawa basically had this reaction because he feels obligated to be the cook head to snap everyone out of emotional reactions. His reaction to Shirakumo was a moment of pure weakness when his guard was not only down but his hopes were up, while after the war he’s acting purely on his objective mind to get the job done so that he can help get everyone back on their feet
I understand that but Midnight was the one who suggested he become a teacher in the first place. They knew each other for 4 years. There is a time and place to grieve, and I would think Aizawa could at least give Mic a chance to mourn. Sorry, but Aizawa just comes off as a complete jackass and I really wanted a scene where Mic confronts him and punch his lights out. A conflict between those two would have been intense.
This could work if we see a scene of Aizawa even implying he feels anything. These sorts of 'I must be strong and press on' moments work when there exists at least an implication that the character in question DOES have any sort of reaction or feeling. Aizawa here comes off as literally not feeling anything whatsoever rather than setting aside his grief for the greater good. This is also why he comes off as a massive asshat to Mic, since we aren't given the idea that he's emotionally tumultuous at that moment. This scene could have been good, but there was no setup for Aizawa trying to stay focused on the war. If there were, this scene3 could have been a sort of mask off moment where we see that Aizawa isn't as unfeeling as he tries to be, being deeply affected by Midnights death to the point that he lashes out at a friend of his.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again. My Hero Academia really does seem to be one of those manga that the following statement is BRUTALLY accurate: "The Fanfiction will outlive the story." Not only because of how it's even easier than usual for an OC to be made in this universe with how prevalent random Quirk powers are, but Fanfiction can be boiled down to one simple concept BESIDES the never-ending shipping stories. "What if X, Y, and Z happened instead of what happened in the main story?" With how My Hero Academia has fumbled a LOT of stuff in the main storyline and ignored so much potential for interesting character development moments, this feels accurate. So yeah. "The Fanfiction will outlive the story."
Me personally I enjoyed the story but I will say I was annoyed that Midnights death wasn't more of a spectacle I know she was wounded but she was an experienced warrior she can handle nameless goons and I will say this arc does have a lot of flaws and I don't blame anyone for disliking or hating it but me personally I loved the arc despite it's flaws it made me excited and sad in moments I think Gran Torino should have died would have made Deku wearing his cape more symbolic and impactful still love the arc but man we we're robbed Edit: I have always hated Best Jeanist ....don't know why but I always have so I just tune him out With that that was my opinion whoever read this thank you and goodbye
I'm just gonna go through stuff WHILE watching. So I'm on the first part... This doesn't effect anything. The idea of Shirokumo being Kurogiri ISN'T something that needed to be explained or shown to us anymore than we see in the anime because it doesn't actually matter. All it does is give more backstory to Kurogiri and more backstory to Mic and Aizawa. We don't need to look through other media to see WHY this matters. All we need to see is that Kurogiri was apart of their life and it scarred Eraserhead seeing him die. This isn't the biggest plotpoint honestly, all it does is give an explaination for Mic and Aizawa as characters. Mic is happy go lucky to hide from the pain of losing a friend and to drive students to be stronger simply by being a good teacher while Aizawa, the one hurt more by the situation, actively cuts students he doesn't see potential in, ALWAYS puts the blame on students for issues they have with their quirks or their issues in class and why he generally sleeps through or isn't there for most normal student activities. Like the festival or even sleeping through picking a class president. We don't need to know Shirokuma as a person to see WHY Aizawa became like this. We just need to see the connection he has with him. Which is PERFECTLY show by how desperately Mic and Aizawa yell to break their friend from being a Nomu but also how DESTROYED they are when they fail. Giving a good reason as to why Aizawa was willing to rip his own leg off just to make sure no one else died because of him again. The first part of this video and already the point is mute because nothing about Shirokuma as a person actually plays into the story OR matters. All we needed to know, which is shown, is Shirokuma was their friend and it hurt them when he died and pushed them to be the people they are today. I'll do any other comments under this one (if you even read this)
Thank you very much, man. I'm happy how the video turned out. There is some stuff I wish I could change and add on, but I am proud of the work I did here. And I am happy I can finally put this arc behind me and focus on other stuff now. Thanks for your continued support! It has helped me a lot!
@@Arkwinder Hey man, it's fine if you don't like My Hero Academia, and I completely understand that. The series is not the best well written series and yeah there are problem with the anime. But hey, I respect you for putting out the flaws behind this arc. But I still think it's good. Plus, my favorite arc is the Vigilante Deku or Dark Deku Arc. Respect to you and hope you have a good day!!
@@Arkwinder No problem buddy and I will admit, the series does have problems but this arc is downright one of my favorite arcs of MHA. But yeah have a good day!! :)
The peak of the series imo was the tournament arc. The rest of it was alright (until the plf war arc), but the tournament arc is where the writing and characters really shine.
If they write a bad arc, it doesnt mean they are a bad person, it means they are a bad writer and didnt have the ending planned which is something a good writer does
I find it so strange that it escalated to this so quickly. MHA really felt like it would be a slow cook, similar to other longgoing shonens. How is it that we are in the end game? The stuff tackled here feels like it should have happened way down the line (in my opinion anyway). Now, I have no idea what happens after this (only watched the anime). But do they ever revive All Might, or does he stay the same after this? We have introduced Eri, which should be able to reverse he bodly state (unless I misunderstood something about her quirk). The short of it, this ark felt severely undercooked and shouldn't have happened yet.
Not to comment on a year old video but this once again confirms my feelings about MHA: I have never before watched a show that made me feel like I was being cucked. It constantly threatens to do something interesting and great, but never actually fucking does it.
I do think that there are some similarities between MHA's War Arc and Naruto's (filler excluded) war arc , the death of a character that doesn't get explored enough (Neji-Midnight) , the main villain getting controlled by another villain (Madara & Kaguya- Shigaraki & AFO), the fact that two final stands get their importance compketeky nullified (Might Guy's 8 gates - All Might's US smash), strategic plot holes (Black Zetsu not waiting for Madara to kill or at least weaken Team 7 - the best jeanist stuff). The reason I make these parallels is because, while both arcs are riddled with mistakes and are considered not to be very good, I believe they both serve their purpose well, they are a big battle arc and mostly that is their purpose. There are meant to be deaths (which in both cases get handled from very bad to really well) and cool moments. Essentially, they are two arcs that could have been executed way better but they do what they are meant to do which is be a huge show off of fights and characters' abilities, so I would give MHA's war arc more of a 5.5-6/10
MHA is basically newgen Naruto and it shows. Specific amazing characters, specific good parts of the story, and that's about it. A really messy and even shitty narrative whole.
Plenty of aspects. Rewrite the Jeanist, Hawks, Commission, and Dabi Stuff. Kill more heroes off or don't kill Midnight Remove Mr. Compress's stuff fully. Set up the Kurogiri stuff better in the eariler arcs. Shiggy kills AFO and becomes the main baddie. Just to name a few.
The thing with me is that the people who killed Midnight don't even need to be known, if there was just good build up to the death showing her work hard to make sure that the students don't die giving the students a reason to be alive and for her to actually die and giving a legit reason as to why she couldn't beat the grunts
I’d almost respect Mr. Compress doing that if it’d been done as a distraction. You say he should focus on the fight, but if he could draw all eyes on him with such revelations and let everyone get away, well. That’d be one thing. Wouldn’t even mind if it turned out he was lying the whole time immediately afterwards somehow. But yeah. Kind of felt like nobody cared. From what I recall. Why was he shouting about that anyway? I don’t remember what prompted him…
the midnight death in the manga is even worse if i remember they dont even show a hint of it they just show all the heros who died in the war with midnight being in there
26:55 Reznov's brainwashing made sense. He gained Mason's trust in Vorkuta, and used that trust to make the programming easier. If a prisoner in a labor camp can pull that off, then the PLF sure as hell can do it.
I want to say that concerning his different reactions from finding what happened to Shirakumo to Midnight dying, there's all the trauma from watching Shirakumo seemingly die only to find him instead as a human experiment. In comparison, he wasn't there to watch Midnight die. That, him seemingly prioritizing his students, and the writing seems to imply they used to go to school together, similar to "My friend's girlfriend" rather than "another of my close friends".
I could see that, but the problem is Eraser is still a massive dick to Mic when he doesn't need to be. If he just said something like with him crying, "Yeah...Kayama...I miss her too...but right now we have to be strong for the students." Then I would be okay with this, but Eraser just shuts down Mic and dismisses Midnight's existence. And bare in mind, she is one of Eraser's best friends. So no, Eraser is still an out of character asshole in this scene.
Personally I think the narrative more or less started its rapid collapse when the villains got a random power up. It's crappy when heroes get random power ups, it's unearned and contrived. Turns out it's even worse when villains get one, because with the villains being the driving force of the story, the entire story gets that unearned and contrived feeling instead of one resolution. It doesn't help that it also completely broke previously established world building regarding quirks.
Going to argue against one of your points: "Deku having a vigilante arc to protect his classmates" I see this arc as another "ploy" to have the audience think Deku is a cool character, as opposed too what his character would actually do after a war arc. My opinion: Imagine going through a war. Yes, you've seen many civilian casualties and so many people die (Even though off screen), BUT, literally everyone you know that went through that exact same war did NOT die. The average person would be screaming for joy and be reuniting with everyone. Eraser-Head only lost his legs (Get some prosthetics), Bakugo literally got pierced through his body but lived AND have a life-changing revelation?! All your class is still alive(EVEN MINETA)?! And this is under the pre-text of a WAR. Vigilante would be the last thing I imagine ANY sane person doing. And the adults are just as stupid for letting this all happen! I hate to say this, but Deku's "Vigilante" arc is just a poor excuse of a "cash grab" to make the main character "edgy". If more people died in the war arc (Erasure-Head, Gran Tarino, Bakugo, Class 1A members), then, yes, I can see Deku's vigilante arc being more justified. But, given what was shown, it's just childish and too cartoonish for me to follow along with lol.
The main problem was more that there was so much more they could’ve done with that arc only to be extremely rushed and underwhelming thanks to the cringe class saying we can handle it only for most of them to not handle it. And it gets worse from there
I enjoyed your perspective on the war arc and even agree in a lot of places but it would make the video a lot easier to watch if you added in subtitles as well since some things you say either get muddled behind sounds or quick speaking. Just an idea as a fellow quick talker
Togata getting his quirk back this early is a waste of both his and Eri's character development. My issue isn't that Eri gave him back is power (although I also feel like leaving him quirkless would've been a more interesting choice), but that it happened so soon. Either the war arc should've been delayed by about a year, or that particular story beat should've been saved for the final arc.
You forgot to talk about the downfall of the Nomu Remember the Usj nomu was strong enough to give All might a run for his money. The high end Nomus were said to be stronger and at the end of the day normal heros were fighting them like it was nothing.
I mean, I think the USJ nomu giving Allmight a run for his money, was more to show that almight was getting weaker. I think that in his prime almight could have taken down the nomu much faster. And it wasn’t nothing, Endevor and Mirkuo almost died to those high ends and it took Gang orca and all of his team to take down one on the beach.
@@hella-lame5407the USJ nomu had the perfect counter Quirks to all might as his melee fighter Why not spam the same Quirk combo to every other nomu and give them better Quirks idk.
@@hella-lame5407 yep but imagine if mirko kicks had no effect on them becomes of shock absorption. Hell twice was league of villians memeber they should copy Quirk and let the nomus duplicate themselves
Honestly if Shigi was ‘killed’ off and had a better last few moments before his ego death it could have been a great villain moment for All For One. It could have also bookended Shigi’s arc thematically by having a flashback to killing his father while he tries to murder his former mentor. But the execution was poorly thrown together. Also there wasn’t a particular reason to do it right then from what I remember. At least wait until the back is turned to drive in the knife, you know? Plus there were better paths to it available. Like; if he was actively bleeding out, tried to take over Shigi to escape death, mental battle, sort of fails so now the two are kind of merged and Shigi has moments of fighting his own actions and behaviors from then on. Or maybe Shigi brought a hero’s body to jump to, but they get interrupted and the transfer quirk can’t be stopped? I’m not as offended as you are by the timing because after all his growth you could make an argument that Shigi’s story was over. He achieved a peak and threw it all away for a singular goal that ultimately killed him. But the how ruins that. Honestly it is a pretty bad use of Hi-Jacked By Ganon. All For One felt like a played out remnant of an older time, he had his shot and he blew it twice. He isn’t as threatening, narratively speaking, as even Stain or Overhaul because those characters hadn’t lost before when they showed up. Part of your anger might simply be that in the story, All For One has failed repeatedly, which makes him less of a threat, while we’ve seen Shigi build and develop into a larger and larger one. And now, even if he is stronger technically, in the narrative he’s less threatening because he’s suddenly the guy who loses and fails in each of his plots going on decades now.
I genuinely believe MHA started to fall off after All Might's fight with AFO. Deku's growth felt rushed afterwards, and a lot of the really good villains (Overhaul, Shigaraki, even Gentle Criminal) were just tossed out. Midnight's death was just cheap shock value, meanwhile Gran Torino was old as balls and he survived a lethal attack from Shigaraki. Like where is the show even going anymore
gran torino surviving, midnight dying to nameless bums, but afo taking over shigaraki after peak character development was asinine
Facts brother
My only issue with Midnight's death is that there needs to be closure, but with the exception of Ashido hearing the goon that killed her being loud about sticking it to the heroes "like that UA teacher," I don't think there's been any more reference to it beyond that. I stopped reading after getting to that chapter, so I don't know if his fate gets addressed later, but so long as it's shown that SOMEBODY gets justice or at least revenge for that death I don't feel like that death was done appropriately
"Asinine" ?
@@mlgtrickzzz1014it means dumb
@@blebmp3533 oh.
I forgot midnight died
Don't worry, Hori kind of forgot too
I forgot that mha have war arc.
@@Cyberraptor14 Fan stuff is non canon, so no.
i skipped it bc it was boring
I remember Twice but Midnight is such an afterthought to me.
MHA is the living embodiment of the old writers saying, "If you find yourself constantly thinking about what your characters should do rather than their roles being obvious you probably have too damn many of them..."
Clearly you haven’t witnessed the Allegiances pages in a Warrior Cats novel because just like MHA there are too many damn characters and most of them are background characters that exist to fill up the population. The only difference is in Warriors it makes family trees stupidly complicated and some romance between characters incest .
@@magena120 Yeah, I've heard of the infamous Warriors Cats incest (Much to my dismay).
@@magena120warrior cats have a character who died twice beacuse they are so forgettable that the author that the forgot they already died.
@@iwannaseehowlongyoucanmakethis something tells me you’re referring to Heavystep because that’s the only thing I’ve seen people talk about him for .
World Trigger: Skill issue
legit world trigger shows how to do massive cast of characters and still having great consistant characterization and balancing the cast properly.
It's funny that now that Shigaraki's gotten super powerful with his decay Quirk, the story is decaying right alongside him.
i cant belive some teenagers are actually kinda winning and the pro ones be like useless and weak
His quirk is so powerful it broke the fourth wall!
@@nancydowns424the teenager that only had a few months of intense training on their first year studying to become heroes. It's insane!
Damn…just damn 😂
It really doesn't though and none of these examples even proved how the story is actually bad or even the arc It's more opinion based than anything else.
Y'know, sometimes I wish stories like MHA and RWBY just stayed in that simple era, where there was danger and villains to fight, but it's still just a story about teenagers in high school or something. I have no problems with darker storylines or favorite characters dying, but when it's not handled well, it just sours the whole experience.
I agree. I watch RWBY and I feel that they have really lost themselves throughout the seasons. I'm fine with the dark storyline but it shows that the writers are coming up with ideas as the show goes along and doesn't really have a plan overall.
The RWBY/BNHA comparison is so on point. Like, the stakes got incredibly high in both series even before they got to finish even one school year lol
@@Mauricio0973 Exactly! Like you expect me to believe that there aren't any seniors or upperclassmen who are more qualified to work with the officials? My main problem with RWBY is that they don't really suffer any consequences for their actions. They lied to Ironwood and didn't trust him despite him helping them, they fought and defeated the ace ops with the small of amount of training that they had, and more stuff that I can't come up right now. Not only that but in MHA you have Deku gaining multiple quirks in one year and somehow he has the skills to go against the top villains? I understand that he's smart but there's no way he mastered the Black Whip in a few weeks.
I think that might not be the problem, the problem is the writing
Yeah sure it can turn dark but with good writing it will still be good heck even better
1. Apples to oranges. They're both action stories with kids in a specialized school for people with superpowers, but that's where the similarities end. Consider: ruby rose does not get significantly faster or stronger throughout the series. She just gets better at her job.
2. Late rwby fucking rules. Sure, there was a bit of a dip in v4-5, but they got over that and the whole atlas arc was just amazing! Still holding out hope for a v10 greenlight
3. V3 is the community agreed upon best volume and it's the one where that "simplicity" falls to the ground and shatters into a million pieces.
I'm not surprised that Horikoshi fumbled so hard in that arc, I was fully aware of their writting issue the moment I realized that Overhaul was a much more compelling antagonist than Shigaraki and that they realized it as well so they litterally took away his arms so he could never come back into the story despite his philosophy and woes of the world being much more interesting to explore than whatever hand boy ever had.
Dude that hype build up for Season 4 was so good.
Thank you. Shigaraki is such a terrible villain he always came off as forced, from when he was first introduced up until in the Shie Hassaikai arc it was always "pls take him seriously" and then they turned him into Goku during the war arc to make him cool, he himself doesn't have anything interesting to his character he constantly gets fed new stuff by the plot to somehow make him work wich it doesn't so they brought AFO back
@@generalkenobi1972 Exactly, not only that but getting rid of Overhaul makes me ask questions I know about the world of MHA that are never resolved imo :
- Isn't Overhaul right in thinking Quirks might be a mutation and therefore not the right path for humanity ?
- I think quirk discrimination would have been a very interesting subject to explore : maybe the ideas of certain quirks being considered evil or awful and people being segregated on the level of danger their quirk can be.
- The heavy focus on Japan makes you wonder what happens in other part of the world ? Maybe some countries are very harsh on quirk regulation and the likes. What about other groups akin to Shigaraki's that's already active, like terrorist groups maybe ?
I know the story is supposed to be Deku's (which is funny when there's an arc dedicated to the villains) but the credibility of the world seems to fall apart when there's way to much questions and ideas that could've been answered and explored.
@@chipslight738 And let's not even forget that Overhaul seems to realize that quirk singularity is an actual issue that would happen and how disastrous it would be for humanity and how removing quirks to some degree is the only solution. Which at no point is anything contradicting that shown. Like hell Quirk Singularity is both a power up for Deku and Shigaraki essentially and we see how destructive that is. Which I guess means Overhaul is right.
@@zygimantassilobritas6034 Let's reform the Shie Hassaikai
MHA went through several changes in themes.
Horikoshi's vision changed somewhere in the middle. Tge whole point Shigaraki being finally liberated is just...pointless(?).
Hori made us so invested in Shigaraki only to pull the rug under from us.
My man was done dirty big time.
@Arkwinder I'm still wondering what the whole point of mva was
I absolutely loved this arc, but had many big issues with it, like Midnight's death and the wasted potential of the PLF.
But Shigaraki being controlled by All For One was the peak of awful writing. This video hit the nail on the head. Not only did it make what All Might did pointless, but it reversed pretty much all of Shigaraki's development. It got on my nerves so much. Why do shows keep doing this? They set up this awesome young prodigy villain, only to throw in the same one dimensional guy the heroes defeated 3 seasons ago.
It's just like how they made Palpatine come back instead of letting Kylo Ren be the main antagonist.
I mean not really since in the manga actually I won’t spoil
The writing was peak during the tournament and stain arcs. All Might vs AFO was good too. It sorta fumbled with Overhaul and other stuff but pulled itself back together with MVA. Now it's just a mess
Exactly... gran Torino deserved to die and his last words should have been "some people can only be saved by killing them."
That would have organically pushed Deku into the dark Deku arc with so many pro heroes dead as well as a mentor's death.
You are kind of cooking here, I won't lie.
Just souunds edgy ngl
Also, he’s old it was bound to happen anyways
@@unioneye1087it's not like it wasn't being edgy before (Midoriya's whole vigilante arc) and different understandings of what it takes to be a hero is actually relevant to the plot.
@@unioneye1087 with the amount of shit that shigaraki did i think killing him will be the best option to the story
I will always take solid writing and predictable twists that make sense over the "shock twist" that comes out of nowhere that destroys the reality the author built.
I will also forever be salty about how EVEN IN DEATH SCENES the ladies of MHA are sidelined and used as props for other characters. In this case, Midnight isn't even a prop since everyone forgets she even existed in the first place. C'mon, man. Do better.
Got to agree with you there.
I mean, the EASIEST Character to gain development from her Death was Mineta Minoru! I mean, he got worried when Midnight was mentioned to hold the line, practically begging them to contact Midnight and see if she needed help.
...So basically, having Midnight be confirmed KIA, should have involved development for Mineta, to become a stronger person so he wouldn't lose anymore of his friends and mentors, and I can actually see him being noted to pray every now and then to those killed during the attack by the LOV, not just to midnight, but many others.
@@Victor-056 yeah but Class 1 A consists of two people and 18 cardboard cutouts. If its not Deku or Bakugo, Horikoshi doesn't care enough to write character for his characters.
this do really be a fridge moment
@@dogf421I'm certain it's called:
The lady in the fridge
This is what i call legendary level fridging
it always feels like some of the best stories get totally ruined because they cant afford having characters with brains or common sense :l
Fr.
Soft magic system moment
@@h_worship9846 hard magic system moment is when author goes high and comment on own work within story.
Welcome to the Matrix😎💀
you are saying as if mha has even a good story to begin with
And the biggest sin of them all: replacing Chainsaw Man with Handsaw Lad.
Fr
The biggest villains were the Copyrights
They cut out Spiderman, Devilman, Superman, Ultraman, Moon Knight, Spawn
Sawarms boy
Lamo imagine war arc happening and fucking darksied had mood to run a fade with Superman@@krajicsek13
man, it seems like so many superhero story authors these days forget that pure shock value impacts a reader once, while a well written plot point an attentive reader could even see coming will impact them for a LONG time.
It feels like author is rushing the story. Introducing many characters then killing them off immediately, or characters we've known for too long but no real character development. I think it would be good if the author emphasize on "academia" more. Like we get to see the gang when they are 3rd year or at least graduated to the MHA and become pro before the final war.
didnt momo had a new teacher that died nmediatly?
Yeah like building up more tension for example
True it's called my hero academia and they legit leave after like 3 seasons and most of the time we only see them being in hero training and less normal life things
Yeah, they should have at least finished school before a giant war breaks out.
i also do wish they had more emphasis on hero things that aren't just fighting, like you had the USJ arc, which got interrupted by villains and then just more fighting, and then the second part in the provisional exam arc, which again, get interrupted by 'villains' and devolves into more fighting
they can't seem to figure out how to make things interesting without combat
I agree, midnights death would have been fine if the show actually ever killed other characters, but now it’s just weird
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MHA for its whole entirety never had the balls to kill characters who actually matter, so thats why the ones who do die, get treated like garbage anyway
(Spoilers for pre-timeskip One Piece)
A bit late but a big thing people complain about when it comes to One Piece is that nobody dies, so when Ace dies, it's absolutely shocking- in a good way. Him being freed had SO MUCH buildup, so when he dies as soon as he was freed, it's just gut-wrentching and tear-jerking. It also has an actual impact on the story too, characters all around have a reaction to it, and it leaves a lasting impact with Luffy, with him having a lasting change of attitude. Oda also managed to make Whitebeard's death impactful for somebody who was only part of that single arc, along with the small snippets you hear of him throughout the series. Both charcters are properly built up- and most importantly- have actually impactful deaths. Though they are also quite different I guess, considering when they died they were a major focus within their arc. But without them, the arc still manages to, you know, make the loss surrounding the war ACTUALLY impactful, rather than just "Oh no! People died! How sad... lets move on"
The fact midnight was effectively fridged bothers me so much, I wasn't particularly fond of her she made me uncomfortable when she was on screen but she did NOT deserve the fridging treatment
You don’t know what fridging means
i dont think midnight was 'effectively fridged'. Fridging means that characters sole purpose is to die or be tragically abused causing the main characters to be motivated to level up or something. But there was no indication about midnight being someone important that the characters will be impacted by her death, matter of fact Hirokoshi failed to do deaths so badly. Midnight was just so-so. Ochaco, Gran Torino or heck All Might were the better choices to kill off. Those who died were just sidelined as explained by OP including Nighteye, I just forgot he even existed after his arc.
6:20 this was one of the many plot points or world building elements that Horikoshi introduced at some point but just decided that it didn't really matter. He's the anti-oda at this point. Instead of introducing a lot of elements to give us the sensation that the world is massive, he just throw shit around the arcs to make it appear that the bnha world is more interesting that it actually is.
hori being "anti-oda" has to be one of the best depictions one has made about him lmao
@@artangel16 quite ironic since oda was a big inspiration for him
One thing that annoyed me about this arc is the ridiculous ass-pulls when it comes to Shigaraki's power. His quirk is decay, so when he uses it, the town starts to crumble cuz he's grown in power. That makes sense to a degree. But then the show tries to tell us that while his quirks are being erased by Aizawa, he can fly through the air, take Endever's strongest attacks directly with little damage, and eventually morph his body like Akira? BULL. FUCKING. SHIT. Every time they make any progress the story gives Shigaraki some new random bullshit advantage and it's frustrating.
Eraser specifically was shown to be unable to erase mutant type quirks. We tend to associate improved durability and strength with enhancer quirks, but their continued function in this case indicates otherwise.
Also, Shigaraki wasn't flying. He was just doing All Might's fake flying trick (super jumps plus punching/kicking the air hard enough to alter his trajectory).
There's plenty of bad writing to criticize in this arc, but these specifically draw on stuff we've been shown earlier in the show.
@@violeth2255 Maybe. But they specify in the manga when he starts spouting massive fingers everywhere that it's not a quirk. That his body can just do that, which even if true is something I think is bullshit. Enhanced durability after going through an intense experimental treatment is reasonable, though questionable in this regard considering the amount of damage he took. But the massive body morphing going on without access to quirks is nonsense.
@@Ultima1134 Oh, no disagreement there. I didn't object to that particular criticism for a reason.
All they had to say is that the body naturally keeps regenerating parts that doesn't need (fingers in this case because of trauma) and he needed a self suppressing quirk to stop that from mutating him too much but since Aizawa erased all of Shigaraki's quirks now the mutations aren't suppressed anymore. A stretch? Sure but still better than "oh that's just what it does now... Because science I guess?"
Eraser;s power only works on quirks that require activation. for example one for all, todoroki's flame, bakugo's explosions.
His power does not work on powers that are constantly active and are part of physiology, like froppy, that octopus dude, etc. for shiggy his changed body is operating more like one of those quirks than something that needs activation.
one thing that really set me off abt the future of this series was giving deku multiple quirks. it could probably be made decent but how is anyone expected to keep up with deku who can use over 100% and like 6 other quirks. i wish it was more about everyone having to work together with how long they had spent together as friends/classmastes.
THANK YOU. As soon as deku used black whip and they said that he would be able to use their quirks i was mad disappointed cuz he was already crazy powerful. Then it's like yeah lets just smack him with a bunch of quirks
Exactly. Even a Deku that was nearly about to drop from exhaustion, didn’t eat, fought consecutively without rest was still giving the rest of Class 1A a hard challenge. So where’s the tension if even a Deku that is severely weakened can still accomplish so much?
It was cool to see him use the six other quirks, but it never really made sense to me, both for the story and in universe. Though maybe if there was an actual downside like the rest of one for all it would've made sense.
@@silverfang8717 some random downsides due to the “stockpile power” quirk might be to have that interact with the other quirks. Maybe blackwhip can literally rip Deku’s own skin and such from overuse
That was when this series died for me. It absolutely ruined his rematch with Shinso, who busted his ass to get stronger just to lose to an asspull. It was very disrespectful.
That's one of the biggest problems with Horikoshi's story: NOBODY DIES no matter how hard they get hit, and it makes readers feel that we are just stuck and not getting anywhere.
Exactly. There's no consequences, no stakes
@@Mr_Mistah”there’s only stakes if a character dies” is like preschool level media comprehension
@@Soniman001 No it really isn't. Seeing Gran Torino getting impaled by Shigaraki should've been instant death but nope he's just in the hospital chilling.
I AGREE! Midnight's death scene was BULLSHIT! Besides, she could have put them all to sleep to by time or when Vlad King should have stormed in to help her out and show us viewers his badass Blood Control Quirk moves. This could lead into a new potential ship and more.
That would require Horikoshi to write something good after S3.
No we don't need any more ships
@@UncleAsmos2005😂
@@RushWheeler while I do agree with you, I think it would be nice to see at least one couple come out of the copious amounts pro heroes with good chemistry with one another. Vlad and Midnight could've been that couple but alas, she got hit with the power of Off-Screen.
The last thing we need are more ships lmao
Yeah i completely dropped mha due to the war arc. Specifically the all for one twist. Horikoshi shit the bed in regards to that arc and it basically ruined all the most interesting parts of the story for me. All for one by himself is a boring as hell villain the most interesting thing about him was the dark inversion of all mights relationship with deku. How he was legitimately shigaraki's all might. Except it turns out he just wanted to take shigaraki's body like orochimaru. Honestly i feel like a lot of mha's concepts are half baked. The hero association breeding complacency in society, people with quirks like Toga who are put in a position to be villains due to societies inability to accommodate them, quirk marriages, etc etc. All of these flaws of the hero society are barely fleshed out and judging how shigaraki's story devolved into the most standard version of itself i have zero faith in horikoshi to do them justice.
this series only barely touched a bunch of potentially deep topics that could put it in the level of hunter x hunter or some "more mature shonen" classic like that but flopped on all of them.
@@Koraxus true, for example the revelation that certain quirks can come with influences on personality can potentially reframe Bakugo AND endeavors actions as byproducts of their quirks but as far as i know it's not even addressed. If quirks can influence the users behavior what about someone who can give others quirks like all for one? Does that mean he can change people's personalities? Does one for all influence deku at all? What if one for all was somewhat responsible for some of the solo hero tendencies of its users, like Nana shimura abandonment of her son and deku's vigilante ark. That alone could be interesting to explore.
@@mr.protagonist5639 that and the whole societal aspect of it which is mentioned lots of times but rarely ever organically developed
how are other countries ran? are there dictatorships? is there some victor von doom like guy governing a dictatorship?
the whole discrimination stuff also felt very hamfisted during the spinner moments
@@Koraxusthe only thing we know about other countries is star and stripe. but we all know how pointless she was to the overall story, we could excise her every appearance and nothing of value would loss. Zero impact to the story.
It's a shame because an inversion of the whole "Heroes are part of a chosen few" theme really makes for excellent food for thought.
Superpowered soldiers and quirk driven war, hell people could potentially start wars over quirks.
Quirk economics
Discrimination based on quirks
Social status effects of quirks , I mean specifically how having an overpowered quirk is the equivalent of being born as the son of a middle eastern oil baron.
Quirk marriages and eugenics.
Heavy regulations on the use of quirks and quirk legislation.
Quirk induced personality disorders
The list goes on and on but sadly we'll have to wait for someone else to make use of this theme before we see this withered tree bear fruit.
Not every story needs a war arc.
More authors should find creative ways to end their stories.
imagine if my hero have ended with a batman vs superman moment? i dunno, i think that would be cool
It's a very common writing issue in superhero stories. They always feel compelled to have a world domination/world ending disaster to up the stakes.
Right I feel like a bunch of kid learning to use there powers…while dealing with real world problems (at a reasonable pace) would’ve been entertaining enough without adding “only you guys can save the world as freshmen!!”
I feel a story about villians and heros would need a war arc. But it was rushed despite slow pacing. This war arc should have broken out at end of 2nd year or beginning of 3rd year that would have made more sense.
So hilarious how all the manga readers were hella hyping this arc up for years and then it happened and they all went into hiding.
im a former manga fan and let me tell you, back when everyone was hyping the war arc up i said yo war arc is actually kinda shit, it got so bad and people got so angry at me i had to close my twt account for a while 💀💀dark times
@@everyonethinksimgay6685💀
I remember being anxious because I thought half the class was gonna get offd😂 but no just midnight and some nameless heros
Oh brother this final arc in the manga would literally kill you 😭
I've been forcing myself to slog through it just because I want to know the fates of my favorite characters. But I'll legit put my phone down and walk away sometimes bc WHY!?
I was a pretty big fan of the series up until the end of this arc while still liking some elements and characters so I’ll go over each segments
Kurogiri: i agree on pretty much every point, just wanna point out that Shirakumo had a crush on Midnight but they were never on a relationship, still pretty weird to leave her out completely, specially since there’s a 3 month timeskip between the hospital meetint and the war arc and her character never shows signs of knowing about the Kurogiri ordeal
Compress: no arguments here the entire twist was pointless and added nothing, as you mentioned, the entire reveal could have happened either on his introduction or in the my villain academia arc, i still like the character and his sacrifice but his backstory doesn’t add anything and he is pretty much ñforgotten by the remaining league members
Midnight: You are spot on, the only thing I disagree is with her being a good character to begin with as she was mostly used for fanservice and weird gags of her thirsting over the students, the lack of reaction from characters that were close to her is ridiculous
Best Jeanist: the single thing i want to point out here is that it was stablished across the series that the heroes aren’t legally allowed to kill villains, Hawks and Nagant are the only exception since they did their dirty work undercover, All Might “killing” AFO was kept a secret too and after being imprisoned they were still working on getting him the death sentence,
That’s why Dabi exposing Hawks murdering Twice was meant to be a big deal
i have no defense for Endeavor and Deku openly trying to murder Shigaraki though besides the situation being extremely dire and i do think Jeanist would have been extremely useful early on the war and that Hawks somehow sneaking past the PLF to revive him is hella dumb
Shigaraki: AFO coming back is the single worst thing that ever happened to this series and makes the later arcs a pain to read while retroactively destroying so many good prior moments, i HATE him so much
Council of OFA: you can definitely tell the author wanted to do a lot more with this plotline but for some reason after the war he started rushing the entire series which means potentially good plotlines and characters get flanderizes to get the plot moving as fast as possible, it’s a shame cause the saving villains aspect of the series is wonderful and could have done a lot for Deku’s and Hawks characters (who just seemingly forgets about Twice inmediately after and doesn’t even bring him up when meeting Nagant)
MHA has always been incomplete. It feels like someone came up with a basic concept, immediately started winging it, then went to trope bootcamp and learned how to create climactic moments but missed half the lessons on how to set them up. In a war arc, this is going to be especially painful as you really need to earn those climaxes due to the gravity that character death holds. Especially if, up to this point, you've killed almost no one off.
bro after america girl showed up for 2 seconds after not being in the entire series i dropped it bro i caaant
The definition of pointless really
Not only was midenight killed off screen by grunts but they didnt even show her go out with a fight .
I get it , in writting Sometimes you want to kill off a character suprsingly fast which would give a shock effect yet the thing is is that Midnight had fallen and taken some damage yet she didnt die . She told the kids instructions as grunts ran towards her .
It'll be cool if she stood up and started to fight against maybe four or five villains and come out on top only to faint after the battle is over .
As he see her on the ground , we can get a first person POV as she is laying on the ground yet still hears more villains coming .
Meanwhile we can focus on a hero who gathers maybe two more other heroes to go and rescue Midnight . Its possible they heard that the teacher had fallen from gigantomachia since she was the biggest key to knocking the Giant out . Maybe they heard from kamui or maybe a hero saw her fall off yet a small extraction team of heroes would be a cool episode to see .
Especially considering that most MHA heroes arent really " Avenger " levels . I dont always like to compare the two but I cant help but see so many heroes struggle against no name indivisuals .
Also the plan that the detective had made wasn't necessarily bad but when he had said " lets take them out in one swoop " me and ny brother looked at each other and smirked simply because the plan was good yet the ingredients to make it work was lacking .
Interesting Arc and I loved Uraraka vs Toga , Twice Death , Dabi dance and some more yet overall I saw some flaws .
Overall, if the whole avengers and guardians of the galaxy armies (especially wakandans, sorcerers and ravagers). Went in to this war, they would've handled shigaraki and machia completely perfect.
As for machia they could send in scarlet witch, ant man, hulk and yondu in order to subdue him from rushing to shigaraki.
However for shigaraki, they can send in captain marvel, iron man, thor, doctor strange and war machine to have a showdown against him.
@Yveltal_IX yeah just about , I have a lot of faith in those hero teams and the armies that helped out to support their respective heroes . Also with most heroes we know thier feats , what makes them tick and how they'll rise to an occasion from comic to screen .
As for mha the heroes, more specifically the pro heroes haven't shown to have thier own nemesis or even have a series of fights that we could analyze enough with . Most of them are just there as other had one good fight and then a handful had maybe three and up which is more perfered .
Personally I would like the war arc to show a Fatgum fight against a strong Villain .
Rocklock against maybe two opponents at once yet he drops them .
Kamui Woods against maybe a termite opponent who is super physically powerful and can demolish wood yet kamui struggles and wins and so on and so forth .
This'll show that they aren't one trick ponies and that they too can fight against new opponents and overcome them even if it is hard . That'll also give the audience more anticipation for later arcs with the pro heroes since we saw how they handle situations without having Allmight or Endeavor to carry the weight .
killed off screen after being horribly exhausted helping defeat one of the most powerufl beings in universe.
@@BabyShinobu. your comment remind me of a time when mha fans ahs the audacity to say that mha story is better than Marvel and DC.
I think on a fundamental level Horikoshi just can't do serious stories. He's at his best when the story was more slice of life and Deku is learning lessons in how to be a hero and control OFA. Him going to classes and doing training missions with his classmates and his interactions with characters like Ochako and Iida were the absolute peak of MHA. The low stakes stories where the plots are more light with a heavier focus on comedy and Deku's character development were better than any serious story. Whenever the story would start to get more serious I found myself snoozing because I felt no investment in the plot. Stain, for any potential he had, came in and left in a whirlwind without his hypocrisy being properly explored, All Might meeting him and expressing disdain for his evil which would absolutely change Stain, and there's no real development given for that subplot before Stain is defeated and carted off. Hell he needed to face the reality that even someone as awful as Endeavor was still saving people even if it was self interested, which is more than Stain ever did. Heck even from the beginning the entire situation with Bakugo bullying Deku and telling him to kys is never treated as seriously as it should have showing Horikoshi didn't realize just how awful he made Bakugo. Bakugo does get development later but it took numerous years for him to even get a slight bit of development from being a psychopathic bully. Most of it was treated as him being a joke but even the pro heroes would go "Wow he's so strong" and ignore how he's a nasty bully who has the behavior of a villain. It was super offputting that someone as awful as Bakugo wasn't treated seriously like it's just a silly comedy then the story would turn around and beg us to take the villains seriously as they want to kill All Might. The whiplash was unreal.
I found all of the villains from the very start to be extremely dull and boring and did not care for a single one of them. I stopped reading the manga during the forest arc because the villains showed up and I could not muster even a slight care. It was just impossible for me to care about the villains and they had quickly taken over the plot as really important which made me want to just not read it. I had to take a long time to think about why I had such a repulsed reaction to the villains and I think I figured it out. Unlike in comic books or comic shows like Batman The Animated Series, we don't get proper set up or development of villains. When Poison Ivy, Riddler, or Mr. Freeze are introduced in BTAS they each get a whole episode dedicated to their introduction, motivations, abilities, and their dynamic with Batman. MHA lacks that entirely. Sure we have AFO acting as the man behind the man orchestrating everything and he's clearly set up as All Might's nemesis, but what about the other villains? It would have helped so much more if the story took longer to establish these antagonists. Let each of them get a chapter or two to show who they are and what they're about before they're all called in for the MHA equivalent of the Injustice League.
Have at least some of them get set up as antagonists for the pro heroes where we can see that they've been around for a while and have a particular beef with a certain hero, or give them a proper introduction where the main characters witness a pro hero fight them to establish their threat level. Wait until much later for them to actually team up under AFO's machinations. It's rushing to get a point where I honestly don't think it ever needed to be at. The stakes never needed to be so high that main characters are killed off. I honestly told myself years ago when I picked up chapter 1 that the story felt like if any of the notable characters actually died that everything would be ruined, and I stand by that. MHA didn't need to be all that serious of a story and should have stuck to the more light hearted low stakes stories, and maybe ended the series on a slightly more serious story where AFO is finally defeated by Deku ending the main conflict between him and the line of heroes using OFA.
The story should have gone MUCH slower. Others are comparing it to RWBY and that is an apt comparison. RWBY started off fine, if a bit rough, but tried to rocket past the lower stakes stories of the first two seasons into massive world ending threats in the third killing off numerous major characters and it goes off the rails from there. Now the story flops around from location to location trying to string together a paper thin plot while artificially boosting the threats by destroying cities and killing main characters. They upturned the status quo before there was even a status quo to upturn. MHA tried to dive headfirst into major stories but in order to do that it had to spam the story with a massive amount of characters, which certainly hurt the ability for people like me to stay invested. Why should I care about the villains when a dozen of them are shoved in within a small time frame, and we have 50 good guys introduced so fast I can barely remember most of them and Deku still needs to get the main focus for his development. It would have been better if we got to see Deku and the other students go through the entirety of school before graduating and then later getting as strong as some of the pro heroes. This is a problem with RWBY as well where professionals and upper classmen are not really factored in and only our protagonists seem to really matter. Hell the entire conflict of Volume 3 of RWBY should never have been a big deal with hundreds of students training at Beacon as well as a solid dozen of professionals who are there that should have taken everything down relatively easily. But they get nerfed so only our heroes must fight.
If anything I think Horikoshi should have started off with a more firm outline to plan this out, and used classic superhero comics and comic adaptations that showed how you can introduce villains (and in the case of Mr. Freeze in BTAS completely reinvent the character so he's basically brand new) in a more natural manner that would make the set up for bigger stories feel more natural.
You keep talking about brainwashing when they literally have a student with a brainwashing quirk. That makes your criticism even more funny. Great vid
That's what I was thinking! Like there are quirks for *everything* and that organization is hunting for kids with quirks they can use. Of course they've been scooping up brainwashing quirks!
With the Kurogiri twist, Horikoshi did fail as while I for one, knew about Shirakumo/Kurogiri twist, that was because I watched a youtube video talking about it, and even then, I didn't read vigilantes so most of the impact was gone. What he should have done is have more of a presence for Shirakumo in the series, with Mic and Midnight dropping hints here and there, Aizawa having quiet movements where he thinks of his friend, maybe even having the show compare something that Mirio, Kirishima or Izuku said to something that Oboro said.
Horikoshi is a Big Naruto fan, so he could have borrowed more of the dynamic of Naruto and Obito for Izuku and Oboro, espeicallty since Aizawa already pays Izuku more attention then the other students, so he'll be in a prime positiion to see how selfless Izuku can be and unknowingly compare that to his old friend who saved a little kitten when he refused to. And yeah, Midnight should have been present, or at the very least, been told as as far as we know, she was never informed of this. I can get the two not wishing to tell Oboro's parents of their son's fate, but Midnight is a fellow hero, she can handle it.
The Mr. Compress twist feels like it was supposed to come out of nowhere, a means to distract the heroes while the rest of the heroes get away, but at the same time, Mr. Compress should have told the rest of the league about it beforehand, after all, they're serving under the successor to All for One, and during the My Villain Academia arc, were fighting the successor to Destro so surely he would have revealed that he too is descendent from villain royalty.
The issue of Midnight's death could have been solved with one thing...time. While it's just poor writing that she dies off screen to nameless grunts while Gran Torino gets the Rengoku treatment and somehow survives, if the story had given the characters and audience time to sit and think about her death, it would have lessen that fault as we don't get to see any of them really react other then the students first finding her corpse, Mic being upset, and Aizawa being a douche about it. They could have easily used the time when Deku was out to show us how the rest of the class and their teachers reacted to it, how they mourned her passing and tried to pick up the pieces to keep fighting...but we didn't get that.
With the whole thing with Jeanist, it was stupid, there is no ways about it. Hawks was being watched 24/7 by Skeptic, and he knew it so the idea that he managed to sneak into where Jeanist's body was being kept, and sneak out with said body WITHOUT help is insane and requires too much a suspension of disbelief. Jeanist being kept back till the 11th hour makes sense from a dramatic POV, but that's it, in universe, it makes as much sense as keeping eggs on a cold stove as the heroes planned the date and time of the attack, and considering that Jeanist had the means to get both the jet and the industrial sized fibers, he was very much part of the plan, so WHY hold him back? Even if his health was the reason, considering what he managed to do in his state, holding down the PLF leadership with their cloths would have been much easier.
I get that it would end the series faster, or lead to a dissatisfying war arc but then your best option is to simply not include him and either have been be left out the battle as perhaps Hawks signaled to the pros where he was being kept just before the battle, so he was still being recovered...or have it that Hawks really did kill him as while Hawks would hate that he would be forced to do it, considering the stuff the HPSC had Nagant do, it wouldn't be out of character for them to decide that Jeanist life was worth the sacrifice and ordered Hawks to carry through with the League's demands to cement his place among them. It would certainly have been more interesting to hear and see how Tokoyami reacts to this as it would be one thing for his master to kill a fleeing villain to ultimately defeat the PLF, it's quite another for him to kill a fellow top pro to cement himself as thier spy within the PLF, even though without that death, he wouldn't have been able to earn their trust and enough leg room to pass on the crucial information they needed.
Tokoyami, and the rest if the cast, might start to think about HOW they value life as how does Jeanist life measure more then Twice's? Why do they draw the line at one and not the other? Were the means justified by the ends? What are they willing to do to maintain order, an order they now know is very much broken? These are all very good questions which...are never addressed.
Worst part is that even if Hawks did what you suspected, and faked killing him in front of a PLF grunt who could report back, considering Dabi didn't think he actually killed Jeanist when he had a body to show for it, not having one would only heighten that disbelief, so Dabi would most likely leave it out of his public announcement and used something Hawks did for the commission to dirty his name, as you know he DID if he was Nagant replacement and considering he tracked down Hawks' mom without him or the commission ever knowing, he can probably tie his name to some other bad actions which Hawks and the pros can't immediately disprove.
With the whole thing with AFO and the council of OFA, it all comes down to another issue: time. Horikoshi wants the series to end this year, so he had to dumb things down and make the fight much less complicated as which one would take more time to meaningly resolve? The issue of how Shigaraki represents the decay of hero society as a whole and its many faults much like the rest of the League OR All for One just being a evil dude that wants to be an honest to God Demon Lord? With the council of OFA, same thing as I was totally expecting the 2nd and 3rd users to be reluctant to sign on for a long while, with Deku unable to use their quirks for a while...but that would take time and Horikoshi didn't feel like writing something similar to Naruto's struggle with befriend Kurama, even with shortened version, so he speed-ran it off screen. Same thing with how Deku's body suffered no blowback from overusing OFA despite the repeated reminders of its consequences.
This review is long enough as is, so I'll end things here.
Honestly, you could have kept on going. You were cooking good.
The issue with a lot of this isn’t that Hori didn’t feel like writing those kinds of ideas and themes, and more so has to do with his health constantly getting in the way. Villain Hunt being as short as it was? Hori was on the verge of death trying to get the arc done so he speed ran through it so he could move on to the other stuff. From what I’ve read about Hori, he seems to be a very troubled individual, as he has constant anxiety, constantly second guesses himself, and always feels like he’s failing his audience by not working on the series in a timely manner. Hori still has trauma of his two other big series, Zoo and Barrage, getting cancelled by Jump, and views taking breaks as him failing and he just refuses to buckle. Does that excuse most of the poor writing decisions, no absolutely not, but it is a reason. I would love to live in an alternate reality where Hori would just put his pen down for a while and just go on vacation, so that he could rest up and properly brainstorm and give his ideas the attention and development they need, but that’s sadly not the world we live in.
@jf4132 Honestly I wouldn't mind in 10 years time if they reboot the series. Like maybe have Hori as a supervisor so he doesn't overwork himself then someone else take the helms of writing it.
@@jf4132 Oh I know, hence why I'm not nearly as salty as I could have been as I can't fault the man when you understand the pressure he's under. If I could speak with him, I would totally advise that he take time off to relax, refill the creative tank, destress and just spend time with friends and family. Naruto proves that fans can wait since its creator told the anime to wait, with is the reason we got part 1 and then Shippuden. Plus, we fans in the 'West' have seen what happens when you rush something that people like with how much the MCU has fallen off the wagon since Endgame so if it came out that he was taking a break to take care of himself and ensure that MHA was still top tier, I can't see too many people having an issue with that.
@@Arkwinder He could pull a Fate and in a couple years, releases the series again, but retold to fix the gaps and even now include the movies into the overarching story. Though he should be wary too, as the Fate timeline is as confusing as it is vast.
I don't think Aizawa was dismissing midnight's Existence i think he just didn't want to know about it, after everything that happened daring that arc he probably just didn't want to know that he couldn't save another person That was his close friend.
Firstly, I do appreciate the politeness. But I don't agree.
A. The dialogue in the scene implies Eraser already knew Midnight died, since Mic would have said something around the lines of "Dude, I hate to tell you this, but Midnight was killed."
But by the dialogue in the scene, it suggested he knew before Mic brought it up.
And B, even if we are charitable and say he learned it like a day ago in universe, he is still a massive dick to Mic, who is his last best friend. So at the very least, he wouldn't be so cold or at least apologize to Mic later. But we never see the latter, so no, I'm still calling this character assassination.
@@ArkwinderAizawa was a complete dick. I was really hoping that moment would lead to Mic confronting Aizaa over his cold behaviour and cause them to fall out. But sadly we do not get that moment.
@@Arkwinderhow is anything you said character assassination seems like it is inline with his character? You may not like it but it is in line.
@@zemox2534what would that solve? Aizawa has always been cold and mic knows that.
Very true, it's weird that that's a complaint.
Midnight was killed just so someone could say "See! The war did have stakes!" and Gran Torino living is just a spit in the face to us. Things only got worse later on with Bakugo which made me drop the manga
It is kind of impressive that War Arc gone from having some really great stuff and pay offs devolved into hype cycle story which destroys own themes as creator wants to end it while suffering from over exhaustion. Most things after it is truly abyss fiction. The mutant plot line is not just offensively bad, it contradicts themes which were the pillars of the main story from the start and even the Vigilante Deku arc.
When i first heard about the arc years ago before i got back into mha i heard that Gran Torino died and then i saw Deku with his scarf and i thought that was Deku holding Torino close to him and having something to remember him by. The fact he survived was kinda crazy
Wow… if you’re going to kill off an important side character we knew from S1 like Midnight, at least give the kill to an established Villain we care about, not some nameless grunt. Imagine if Midnight was killed after a hard-fought battle with Dabi for example. Would’ve been leagues more impactful. And it would’ve made Dabi way more threatening.
I dropped this series two chapters before midnight died because there was just nothing that made me want to read the next chapter. it's a very important factor to me when reading manga, that I want to read the next chapter immediately otherwise I just drop it. the same happened with demon slayer, it's why I stay away from over hyped series. but I remember feeling nothing for midnight when she died, in all honesty I felt worse for Aizawa having lost another friend then I did for her. I don't even remember anything about anyone else that died either. I swear shonens just don't know how to write war arcs cuz this certainly wasn't the first time this has happened and I know it won't be the last, even a girls dress up game wrote a better war than this.
it's such a shame cuz this story seemed so cool at first, at least the art looks good. I feel like if midnight hadn't died the arc would have still been just as impactful as it was, the kids still could have been traumatized from finding another heros body so besides the shock value it doesn't feel all that important.
interestingly they wouldn't even need to kill off any important characters to make this arc an effective war it just needs better writing, I've been reading a phenomenal war manga recently that hasn't killed off any of the important characters on the protagonist's side whatsoever but it steel reads as a very brutal war cuz the mangaka makes any chance at survival feel completely hopeless.
this was a really good video btw so keep up the good work🥰❤
Thank you! ^^
Wait back up, did you just say a dress up girls game??💀
@@arkenbulkxd3889 yep the love Nikki game got pretty wild for a dress up game, though the next in the series shining Nikki somehow got crazier.
I dont get the hard-on the author has for killing and crippling fan favorite characters. killing off midnight, making so that mirko loses a limb every fight, eraser as well losing a body part every fight, endeavors arm, hawks getting his wings burned off(even tho they grow again, why???) while doing fakeout deaths for other characters like gran torino and bakugo. these cheap pulls at the heartstrings honestly just makes me not care for the characters anymore, also "oh its to show the weight of the war on the characters blah blah" but the students cementoss and present mic are all lokking like they just stayed in a resort. the only one who doesnt is deku while hes on his black swordsman arc.
On a separate note it would be really cool if one of the one for all predecessor had a really powerful quirk and wanted nothing more than to kill all for one, trying to take over and all that, kinda like a deku beast of darkness. but i guess it would be taking too much from berserk, even thought it would fit perfectly.
15:22 not finished watching the video yet, but the funny thing is, horikoshi knew jeanist should have arrived early to take care of machia, but held him back on purpose. even jeanist points out that he meant to arrive sooner.
i'm happy you made this video bc the war arc is not only so abrupt imo but it's also just that bad lol. i hate seeing people praise it. people overhype the series for no good reason.
it's should've sets off alarm bells when even the author says its stupid. and he's the guy that writes it😂
Funfact: Geten, aka the evil ice guy in the coat, didnt get a bonus page with like a fullbody. I am angry because a random aizawa backstory character got one. This is irrelevant but im angry about that
Fair. If you want me to be honest, I am upset that the Meta Liberation Army got sidelined during their own liberation war. I think it would have been interesting to show Hanabata’s influence on society because he was a politician or give more build-up to Skeptic to prepare him for being the remaining member of the MLA or let Re-Destro have more moments instead of being defeated off-screen because he was the main antagonist of an arc and being shown to be powerful. Geten is my favourite character and I think it would have been interesting to use him more to build Dabi’s character because of his ideology and the fact that they shared a regiment and a role as a lieutenant. This might also be me caring about unimportant side characters and rambling about nothing.
The major problems I hate about the MHA story is that despite having the money and technology to build all kinds of robots and weapon, they choose to send "child soldiers" to the war zones instead of robots or adult soldiers.
Another big issue is the lack of lethal weapons used by heroes. Though some villains are bulletproof, most of the villains are just human with superpower.
Heroes with guns will definitely be more useful than just bare hands.
Plus who in the right mind said that only heros need to use thier Quirks
Police officers are literally doing the same thing, they also need to use thier Quirks but again this will make heros less special.
It's not like they live in a world where everyone is walking time bomb and they need as many of men power to stop it.
Also who had the bright idea to keep AFO alive. All might literally killed that man when they had him the second time why not just put him on acid
But I guess it's too logical for advanced society
Your little montage of people failing to die should've included Mirko. Girl was all sorts of fucked up but still pulled through lol. Also how could Hawks have gotten Jeanist out of the facility? They put trackers in his wings so they could ensure he would be loyal. He had to talk to Endeavor using highlighted words in a book. They literally knew where he was at all times!
True. But Mirko is built different so I'll let that slide lmao.
Mirko is a whole different breed
To be honest, this critical review isn't even overly unfair. This is spot on.
Good video! I feel like Horikoshi is burnt out like a teen writing a fanfic and not updating it for so many years. It shows in his writing and I know once BNHA is done it will be used as an example of how NOT to write a shonen, especially when it comes to handling characters.
My biggest gripe is Deku. He never has any character growth. I've been told that he is more confident, but I don't see it at all. I wanted his way of thinking to be challenged. I wanted him to actually experience serious consequences for the damage he puts himself through, I want to see him actially be selfish for once because a normal 16 year old does not act like him 24/7. He basically has become a husk of the hero society that exists today in his world. But I guess thats what Horikoshi gets for making the first words his main protagonist says is being the #1 hero in the world. 😅
Not really used as an example this is how every shounen is. Something like one piece is very successful even with all these same issues. Teen fanfic is basically every shounen is, hxh, fma, yu yu hakusho, one piece all have the same fanfic vibes and dont update or mature their stories.
Deku has gotten more confident look at his confrontation with bakugo, shoto and every single confrontation he has had on the story. He does challenge his world view alot his admiration for all might is constantly challenge his belief in himself and him shouldering everything. If he acted selfish it would be a character assassination.
@@blimbaily5133I mean if you talk about one piece and no character development you haven’t read one piece
@@baconboi4482 yeah, people often conflate development with change, a character doesn't have to be a completely different person than what they started as in the beginning, it's a decent way to show development through growth but it's not the only way to do it, and won't be effective if you just change their character without delving into character arcs and shit.
@@ginogatash4030 I'm sorry but One Piece, amongst it's great story telling, is maybe one of the worst offenders in having no character development. I would even go as far to say that the characters become *_even more one noted_* after the time skip. The only thing about them that grows, is any of the fighters getting stronger. None of them act, or make decisions differently based on the experiences they've had in the series. Luffy is the worst offender of this as well. Even after ace dies, even after the events that split the crew apart in the first place, he is still just as reckless in his decision making. The only difference being he's now stronger and can be just as reckless but with confidence.
I've never had interest with the series because i always say that i prefer him as anime batman but watching season 1 was okay and then I'm just not interested in season two, and now everyone else is seeing how bad this is
Midnight's death reminds me of GOT deaths, but executed poorly. GOT deaths work, not only because of the shock, but because character's death have a lot of impact on others characters development (I.e: Tyrion's character development in the books) and world in general (starting and ending a war). Midnight's dead could've worked if Horikoshi wasn't such an incompetent writer.
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who thought how bad midnights death was
My main problem is that this arc has been going on for WAAAAAAAAAAAY too long.
With all these revivals and weird survivings. I can't help but acknowledge how weird the series still is with it's selective damage output. Bakugou for example by all means should be done, no matter what at this point. When we go off of what Hori tried to establish as the healing limitations, to where Izuku even had his combat style turned around unless he wanted to be paralyzed for the rest of his life. The circumstances of how easily avoidable death was for Midnight compared to the characters that DID somehow survive really broke my investment for the series. Especially as someone who was actually reading Vigilantes, invested in how they'd maybe start weaving together the teachers' relationships from it at least.
Though from all the really weird larger world building stuff I also heard about earlier in the series, I just genuinely feel glad I did.
Just to point out something, Bakugo was going to die, but a few people actually killed them selves over it
ik but wouldnt it make more since to kill him off to make the real people realize they killed themselves over nothing
That's hilarious lmao
That is just sad.
Source: It came to me in a dream
And....
He is back at it. The manga is bad now dear god
I think the shigaraki twist is even worse than you think because I believe what they're doing there is building up to his eventual redemption arc. Its so dumb but I think they're really hinting at something like shigaraki teaming up with MC to fight AFO later.
Honestly, with everything that happened? I think Shigaraki was done PERFECTLY, even if All for One kinda ruined him. He carried most of the MHA story on his back, and had a satisfying end that didn't go full Naruto (Why yes let this mass murderer go free) but also stuck to most of the earlier established narrative themes (saving someone who doesn't want help, the nurturing of the next generation, every Deku and Shigaraki parallel and inversion etc)
my predictions: the villains will die, i dont know about endeavour. Eri will be the plot device that will restore everyone's quirks. Hori will make one last a$$ pull with eri. he has created her for this sole purpose
Im from the future and i Fucking hate how acurate This coment is
@@gustavogutierrez6568wait eri brought everyone’s quirks back?
Midnights death low-key felt like fridging. I mean she was loved by the fandom but overall she wasn't super important, didn't do much for the plot like ever, and literally only two other minor characters died so her death was just there to be impactful to the audience and then literally nothing else.
aint nobody loved midnight don't revise history, after like the second populairty poll she aint nowhere to be seen plus she was like 30th
@@cahrles2687 30th to the Japanese audience who can vote in those polls. That says nothing about the Western audience
@@teathie8224 there is a US one you know
I'm putting anime on punishment: no more war arcs for 5 years. I hope you learned your lesson. 😤
Hey, hey, hey! It was a little thought out.
The killer was given a gas mask to explain why she didn’t just knock him the hell out with her sleep pheromones… or however her power was suppose to work.
…but yeah, she should have at least been found surrounded by the knocked out bodies of the rest of those idiots without chemical warfare defenses at the absolute least.
Yeah, I dropped the series at this arc, now I am just waiting for the series to end so I can go read the last chapter for time investment closure.
sometimes I want to explain why the second half of my hero is so bad, I cant even figure out how to explain it, theres so many little things that come together to make it bad
Honestly so many deaths happened and so much destruction happened all because they didn’t wanna kill him when they had the chance. Even if Best Jeanist wasn’t there during the mansion raid, Shiggy was unconscious on the floor for a moment and they just say there and watched. They could’ve clocked him out of life early right there, but they CHOSE not to. “Well, we wanted to bring him into police custody and take him to tar-“ NOOOOO
They did this with AFO despite All might murdering him the first time.
Horikoshi forgot one of the most important rules of writing: Never fridge your characters.
i will never forgive horikoshi for what he did to my girl midnight
Horokoshi is fantastic artist he draw some of the best visual appealing character's, but dam he should have just stick with the art and leave writing to a professional.
Midnight was not even treated as human and The "payback" was massive L
Honestly I was never sure someone would more or less have the same thoughts I had: That in isolation there are a lot of cool moments it’s just in a plot with a lot of head scratching decisions by the characters like todoroki can freeze football stadiums, why did no one think of having him freeze the mansion giving a massive advantage in the long run and plenty of other why did this happen other than the plot demanded it, that’s all fine in isolation but it does kind undermine the theme of the series: Revolutionize Heroism (or in shigirakis case) villainy through succession everyone just kinda bumbles around like action figures more than real humans leading to the near apocalypse, it just kinda feels like all might was right, that the world did need him to continually be a demi god because this clearly proves the world is thoroughly screwed without him and then the 2nd war arc is even worse, undermining more elements from the series and retroactively makes this first war feel increasingly pointless…sigh
Well... There is a literal cyrokinesis quirk user there, so having Todoroki at the mansion is the worst play ever
@@3dsmaster537 Yes but not knowing it’s gonna happen is the main point, and at the very least seems much more safe than bum rush em and hope for the best with no actual tactics y’know like real wars? In this place that’s supposed to be like the real world y’know?
Although I did forget about geten so that’s still a fair point. Goes to show how much of a clusterf**k this story has been to the point where I hardly remember who’s important or what happened at various points
you know i relate good one but imma leave and just listen to some dark academia music cuz this anime is like butter just slipping
Mha is fun to think about but I don't fantasize over it , especially as a western hero fan . Simply because the Majority of the hero society actually can't do thier Job properly. So many excuses flood for why they can't rescue or fight properly despite thier " plus ultra " anthem .
To be very honest the kids are much better than the Majority of pro heroes . Only a handful of heroes are about mid to high tier in my opinion and honestly that's ok.
When I first saw the series I was like hmmm there are already too many pro heroes .
The numbers are atleast in the thousands seeing massive stadiums flooded with them . For me a hero can't just be a Job you can sign up for , you need the heart of a Hero . It's with the heart that you'll push past your limits to then fight and save lives although many weren't doing that .
Stain called them out which made sense as I loved this approach that Hori did in the series. But the inverse controversial topic was dropped after stains defeat .
I was hoping many the recruiting and training system for heroes in MHA would be stricter and more defined yet it wasn't it was the same jolly thing .
So when the heroes ran up against Chisaki only a few could handle the Situation , when the war arc came only a few could handle the situation there too and tbh it was barely a war and more like a 6 hour fight which in the context of war is a mere battle .
Many fans ignore these strategies or points but it's true , without the handful of good heroes the society would be finished .
Black Widow or Hawkeye don't need to be Thor but everyone carries their own weight , even simular to the incredibles in a way.
But Gran Torino is cool 😎
idk if it was technically during the war arc, or later, but I'm still salty about Stars & Stripes
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appearing and dying so near instantaneously.
It was like the goofy 'The Guy' player from Spy Kids 3, it's downright parodic.
To pull a character out of nowhere to come in and cripple your antag just because you power creeped too far, and kill her off once she's done just feels bad to me.
[tho, I still wonder if it's also stress/pressure on the mangakas at times....I know we expect the same quality on and on, but the workloads are still crazy for these creators to me...]
"Cake..."
I would seriously yall consider reading or watching iruma kun, the series is fantastic. The characters feel their age and its about a human surviving in a demon world. The series has a measure of growth for all characters and it doesnt collapse under its own weight.😊
Plus, it's not perverted like MHA.
Iruma kun is so good 😂
Is one of the few shows with a BIG cast that actually makes good use of them. The comedy is on point too
also the MC looks like deku
this video hits even harder now since we are watching the final arc implode and collapse like a dying star. I'll mourn for Tomura, he was my favorite character but was totally ruined by AfO taking over for reasons, which lets remember we still don't know his end goal or motivation.
Truthfully, this arc was actually my favorite for quite a bit of time, as it was going on and on. All my real issues with it came suddenly, one after the other - how they just brought Mirio back with literally no subtelty, how Gran Torino survived 30% of his body being punctured by Shiggy, how they "resolved" the masked homie's storyline... I consider Tartaros a next arc (well, mini-arc), but if I didn't, I'd also be devastated by how Horikoshi tried to take the wheel away from developed and much more interesting Shigaraki too.
I don't know, some of these decisions just literally don't make sense when compared to writing of previous arcs. Don't get me wrong, Hori never was a top-tier storyteller, but he goes on to undermine what was already set up and just ready to serve and I just CAN NOT understand what happened. My man's crumbling - either his editors' doing, his fans' constant nagging or his own immaturity or insecurities as an author seem to be the issue here.
I don't want nor like to just gang up on MHA like this. I still appreciate a lot of things about it, but I just hope Horikoshi can learn from this and come back stronger, more focused with a new manga.
Honestly you can very obviously tell that the author didn't really have a clear vision for the story anymore after the Yakuza arc. Everything past that point felt so disjointed. The School Festival and Meta Liberation Army arcs especially felt like intentional filler arcs so the author could give himself time to figure out how to actually continue the story, but after the latter it really seems like he just gave up and decided to sprint to the finish line as fast as possible.
Horikoshi should just stick to what he does best: drawing 10/10 women on the daily basis
The way I rationalize Aizawa’s reaction is basically that it’s the point that he’s being so cold. Aizawa basically had this reaction because he feels obligated to be the cook head to snap everyone out of emotional reactions. His reaction to Shirakumo was a moment of pure weakness when his guard was not only down but his hopes were up, while after the war he’s acting purely on his objective mind to get the job done so that he can help get everyone back on their feet
I understand that but Midnight was the one who suggested he become a teacher in the first place. They knew each other for 4 years. There is a time and place to grieve, and I would think Aizawa could at least give Mic a chance to mourn. Sorry, but Aizawa just comes off as a complete jackass and I really wanted a scene where Mic confronts him and punch his lights out. A conflict between those two would have been intense.
This could work if we see a scene of Aizawa even implying he feels anything. These sorts of 'I must be strong and press on' moments work when there exists at least an implication that the character in question DOES have any sort of reaction or feeling. Aizawa here comes off as literally not feeling anything whatsoever rather than setting aside his grief for the greater good. This is also why he comes off as a massive asshat to Mic, since we aren't given the idea that he's emotionally tumultuous at that moment. This scene could have been good, but there was no setup for Aizawa trying to stay focused on the war. If there were, this scene3 could have been a sort of mask off moment where we see that Aizawa isn't as unfeeling as he tries to be, being deeply affected by Midnights death to the point that he lashes out at a friend of his.
I’ve just read the last manga and I wanted to watch something like this. Not only I agree with everything you say, I’m STUNNED by your edition, Oscar worthy, tbh. So well done, so smooth… Instant subscribe. Wow, I’m really amazed by your work, so, so good!!
I've said it before and I'll say it again. My Hero Academia really does seem to be one of those manga that the following statement is BRUTALLY accurate:
"The Fanfiction will outlive the story."
Not only because of how it's even easier than usual for an OC to be made in this universe with how prevalent random Quirk powers are, but Fanfiction can be boiled down to one simple concept BESIDES the never-ending shipping stories.
"What if X, Y, and Z happened instead of what happened in the main story?"
With how My Hero Academia has fumbled a LOT of stuff in the main storyline and ignored so much potential for interesting character development moments, this feels accurate.
So yeah. "The Fanfiction will outlive the story."
Me personally I enjoyed the story but I will say I was annoyed that Midnights death wasn't more of a spectacle I know she was wounded but she was an experienced warrior she can handle nameless goons and I will say this arc does have a lot of flaws and I don't blame anyone for disliking or hating it but me personally I loved the arc despite it's flaws it made me excited and sad in moments I think Gran Torino should have died would have made Deku wearing his cape more symbolic and impactful still love the arc but man we we're robbed
Edit: I have always hated Best Jeanist ....don't know why but I always have so I just tune him out
With that that was my opinion whoever read this thank you and goodbye
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When Mr. Compress suddenly whipped out his backstory I was like "Cool, I DON'T give a shit. Shut up. Move on."
Not even the fandom gave a fuck when it was first shown in the manga, all the attention was about how hot he was 😂
I'm just gonna go through stuff WHILE watching. So I'm on the first part... This doesn't effect anything. The idea of Shirokumo being Kurogiri ISN'T something that needed to be explained or shown to us anymore than we see in the anime because it doesn't actually matter. All it does is give more backstory to Kurogiri and more backstory to Mic and Aizawa. We don't need to look through other media to see WHY this matters.
All we need to see is that Kurogiri was apart of their life and it scarred Eraserhead seeing him die. This isn't the biggest plotpoint honestly, all it does is give an explaination for Mic and Aizawa as characters. Mic is happy go lucky to hide from the pain of losing a friend and to drive students to be stronger simply by being a good teacher while Aizawa, the one hurt more by the situation, actively cuts students he doesn't see potential in, ALWAYS puts the blame on students for issues they have with their quirks or their issues in class and why he generally sleeps through or isn't there for most normal student activities. Like the festival or even sleeping through picking a class president.
We don't need to know Shirokuma as a person to see WHY Aizawa became like this. We just need to see the connection he has with him. Which is PERFECTLY show by how desperately Mic and Aizawa yell to break their friend from being a Nomu but also how DESTROYED they are when they fail. Giving a good reason as to why Aizawa was willing to rip his own leg off just to make sure no one else died because of him again. The first part of this video and already the point is mute because nothing about Shirokuma as a person actually plays into the story OR matters. All we needed to know, which is shown, is Shirokuma was their friend and it hurt them when he died and pushed them to be the people they are today.
I'll do any other comments under this one (if you even read this)
This was well worth the wait. You made a lot of good points on the arc. The arc had a great start, but fumbled in a lot of other areas.
Thank you very much, man. I'm happy how the video turned out. There is some stuff I wish I could change and add on, but I am proud of the work I did here. And I am happy I can finally put this arc behind me and focus on other stuff now.
Thanks for your continued support! It has helped me a lot!
@@Arkwinder Hey man, it's fine if you don't like My Hero Academia, and I completely understand that. The series is not the best well written series and yeah there are problem with the anime. But hey, I respect you for putting out the flaws behind this arc. But I still think it's good. Plus, my favorite arc is the Vigilante Deku or Dark Deku Arc. Respect to you and hope you have a good day!!
@@darkwinter2009 I do like the series, I said so in the concluding section, I just mention there are flaws within in. But thanks for being polite.
@@Arkwinder No problem buddy and I will admit, the series does have problems but this arc is downright one of my favorite arcs of MHA. But yeah have a good day!! :)
@@darkwinter2009 If you at least watched my video and you have different standards than me, then I can respect that.
The peak of the series imo was the tournament arc. The rest of it was alright (until the plf war arc), but the tournament arc is where the writing and characters really shine.
If they write a bad arc, it doesnt mean they are a bad person, it means they are a bad writer and didnt have the ending planned which is something a good writer does
I find it so strange that it escalated to this so quickly. MHA really felt like it would be a slow cook, similar to other longgoing shonens. How is it that we are in the end game? The stuff tackled here feels like it should have happened way down the line (in my opinion anyway).
Now, I have no idea what happens after this (only watched the anime). But do they ever revive All Might, or does he stay the same after this? We have introduced Eri, which should be able to reverse he bodly state (unless I misunderstood something about her quirk).
The short of it, this ark felt severely undercooked and shouldn't have happened yet.
I like how Vest Jeanist is concidered as Jesus in the captions concidering he came back to life after AFO attacked.
Not to comment on a year old video but this once again confirms my feelings about MHA: I have never before watched a show that made me feel like I was being cucked. It constantly threatens to do something interesting and great, but never actually fucking does it.
We like call that feeling getting blue ball'd
I do think that there are some similarities between MHA's War Arc and Naruto's (filler excluded) war arc , the death of a character that doesn't get explored enough (Neji-Midnight) , the main villain getting controlled by another villain (Madara & Kaguya- Shigaraki & AFO), the fact that two final stands get their importance compketeky nullified (Might Guy's 8 gates - All Might's US smash), strategic plot holes (Black Zetsu not waiting for Madara to kill or at least weaken Team 7 - the best jeanist stuff). The reason I make these parallels is because, while both arcs are riddled with mistakes and are considered not to be very good, I believe they both serve their purpose well, they are a big battle arc and mostly that is their purpose. There are meant to be deaths (which in both cases get handled from very bad to really well) and cool moments. Essentially, they are two arcs that could have been executed way better but they do what they are meant to do which is be a huge show off of fights and characters' abilities, so I would give MHA's war arc more of a 5.5-6/10
MHA is basically newgen Naruto and it shows. Specific amazing characters, specific good parts of the story, and that's about it. A really messy and even shitty narrative whole.
if you could rewrite this arc what would you change
Plenty of aspects.
Rewrite the Jeanist, Hawks, Commission, and Dabi Stuff.
Kill more heroes off or don't kill Midnight
Remove Mr. Compress's stuff fully.
Set up the Kurogiri stuff better in the eariler arcs.
Shiggy kills AFO and becomes the main baddie.
Just to name a few.
@@Arkwinder Why didn't it occur to me sooner omg Shigaraki killing AFO would have been literally so perfect, you're so right with that one.
@@kubikim Hell yeah, main baddie Shiggy would have been pure perfection.
The thing with me is that the people who killed Midnight don't even need to be known, if there was just good build up to the death showing her work hard to make sure that the students don't die giving the students a reason to be alive and for her to actually die and giving a legit reason as to why she couldn't beat the grunts
Shigaraki went from being a mid-tier villain to being an awesome fucking character to now he needs to be saved by Izuku???????
I’d almost respect Mr. Compress doing that if it’d been done as a distraction. You say he should focus on the fight, but if he could draw all eyes on him with such revelations and let everyone get away, well. That’d be one thing. Wouldn’t even mind if it turned out he was lying the whole time immediately afterwards somehow.
But yeah. Kind of felt like nobody cared. From what I recall. Why was he shouting about that anyway? I don’t remember what prompted him…
That would have been _so_ in character for him too!
the midnight death in the manga is even worse if i remember they dont even show a hint of it they just show all the heros who died in the war with midnight being in there
This made me realize how good the voice acting is in mha
26:55 Reznov's brainwashing made sense. He gained Mason's trust in Vorkuta, and used that trust to make the programming easier.
If a prisoner in a labor camp can pull that off, then the PLF sure as hell can do it.
Almight or Gran Torino should have died. Instead Horikoshi keeps killing off random characters in the dumbest ways.
Exactly
Almight should of been gone
I want to say that concerning his different reactions from finding what happened to Shirakumo to Midnight dying, there's all the trauma from watching Shirakumo seemingly die only to find him instead as a human experiment. In comparison, he wasn't there to watch Midnight die. That, him seemingly prioritizing his students, and the writing seems to imply they used to go to school together, similar to "My friend's girlfriend" rather than "another of my close friends".
13:30 tbf i think that scene was made to show that Eraser cares a lot about his students but that didnt go well
I could see that, but the problem is Eraser is still a massive dick to Mic when he doesn't need to be.
If he just said something like with him crying, "Yeah...Kayama...I miss her too...but right now we have to be strong for the students."
Then I would be okay with this, but Eraser just shuts down Mic and dismisses Midnight's existence. And bare in mind, she is one of Eraser's best friends.
So no, Eraser is still an out of character asshole in this scene.
Personally I think the narrative more or less started its rapid collapse when the villains got a random power up. It's crappy when heroes get random power ups, it's unearned and contrived. Turns out it's even worse when villains get one, because with the villains being the driving force of the story, the entire story gets that unearned and contrived feeling instead of one resolution. It doesn't help that it also completely broke previously established world building regarding quirks.
I’m just glad they didn’t write themselves into such a corner that they bring in aliens, unlike something else…
He wasn't backed into a corner writing aliens. He did that to give his upcoming sequel a lift in more potential big bads.
Going to argue against one of your points: "Deku having a vigilante arc to protect his classmates"
I see this arc as another "ploy" to have the audience think Deku is a cool character, as opposed too what his character would actually do after a war arc.
My opinion: Imagine going through a war. Yes, you've seen many civilian casualties and so many people die (Even though off screen), BUT, literally everyone you know that went through that exact same war did NOT die. The average person would be screaming for joy and be reuniting with everyone. Eraser-Head only lost his legs (Get some prosthetics), Bakugo literally got pierced through his body but lived AND have a life-changing revelation?! All your class is still alive(EVEN MINETA)?! And this is under the pre-text of a WAR.
Vigilante would be the last thing I imagine ANY sane person doing. And the adults are just as stupid for letting this all happen!
I hate to say this, but Deku's "Vigilante" arc is just a poor excuse of a "cash grab" to make the main character "edgy".
If more people died in the war arc (Erasure-Head, Gran Tarino, Bakugo, Class 1A members), then, yes, I can see Deku's vigilante arc being more justified. But, given what was shown, it's just childish and too cartoonish for me to follow along with lol.
The main problem was more that there was so much more they could’ve done with that arc only to be extremely rushed and underwhelming thanks to the cringe class saying we can handle it only for most of them to not handle it. And it gets worse from there
I enjoyed your perspective on the war arc and even agree in a lot of places but it would make the video a lot easier to watch if you added in subtitles as well since some things you say either get muddled behind sounds or quick speaking. Just an idea as a fellow quick talker
Togata getting his quirk back this early is a waste of both his and Eri's character development.
My issue isn't that Eri gave him back is power (although I also feel like leaving him quirkless would've been a more interesting choice), but that it happened so soon.
Either the war arc should've been delayed by about a year, or that particular story beat should've been saved for the final arc.
You forgot to talk about the downfall of the Nomu
Remember the Usj nomu was strong enough to give All might a run for his money. The high end Nomus were said to be stronger and at the end of the day normal heros were fighting them like it was nothing.
I mean, I think the USJ nomu giving Allmight a run for his money, was more to show that almight was getting weaker. I think that in his prime almight could have taken down the nomu much faster. And it wasn’t nothing, Endevor and Mirkuo almost died to those high ends and it took Gang orca and all of his team to take down one on the beach.
@@hella-lame5407the USJ nomu had the perfect counter Quirks to all might as his melee fighter
Why not spam the same Quirk combo to every other nomu and give them better Quirks idk.
@@Mrsmile-by3oi I don’t think the Nomu were that different, most of them had regen and super speed
@@hella-lame5407 yep but imagine if mirko kicks had no effect on them becomes of shock absorption.
Hell twice was league of villians memeber they should copy Quirk and let the nomus duplicate themselves
@@hella-lame5407 imagine Hgh end nomus like hood had twice Quirk , Endeavor would be dead
Honestly if Shigi was ‘killed’ off and had a better last few moments before his ego death it could have been a great villain moment for All For One. It could have also bookended Shigi’s arc thematically by having a flashback to killing his father while he tries to murder his former mentor.
But the execution was poorly thrown together. Also there wasn’t a particular reason to do it right then from what I remember. At least wait until the back is turned to drive in the knife, you know?
Plus there were better paths to it available.
Like; if he was actively bleeding out, tried to take over Shigi to escape death, mental battle, sort of fails so now the two are kind of merged and Shigi has moments of fighting his own actions and behaviors from then on. Or maybe Shigi brought a hero’s body to jump to, but they get interrupted and the transfer quirk can’t be stopped?
I’m not as offended as you are by the timing because after all his growth you could make an argument that Shigi’s story was over. He achieved a peak and threw it all away for a singular goal that ultimately killed him. But the how ruins that.
Honestly it is a pretty bad use of Hi-Jacked By Ganon. All For One felt like a played out remnant of an older time, he had his shot and he blew it twice. He isn’t as threatening, narratively speaking, as even Stain or Overhaul because those characters hadn’t lost before when they showed up.
Part of your anger might simply be that in the story, All For One has failed repeatedly, which makes him less of a threat, while we’ve seen Shigi build and develop into a larger and larger one. And now, even if he is stronger technically, in the narrative he’s less threatening because he’s suddenly the guy who loses and fails in each of his plots going on decades now.
midnight's death was so bad that i was sure that it would be a fakeout
I genuinely believe MHA started to fall off after All Might's fight with AFO. Deku's growth felt rushed afterwards, and a lot of the really good villains (Overhaul, Shigaraki, even Gentle Criminal) were just tossed out. Midnight's death was just cheap shock value, meanwhile Gran Torino was old as balls and he survived a lethal attack from Shigaraki. Like where is the show even going anymore
The author even forgot Deku's main quirk of getting injured whenever he used OFA. Suddenly he could wield it at 100% without breaking a finger.
All the issues mha went through is the same thing Game Of Thrones did