Guys if you are going to install drop spindles, make sure you have 16 inch wheels (some 15s fit but it varies). YOU CANNOT USE FACTORY 14" WHEELS with the drop spindles!
Hell of a video 🔥 detailed it very well 🤙🏻 I just got a 86 Nissan and plan on going to lowrider route with spokes & chrome add ons but wondering what size tire and rims you got? Ain’t trying to scrape up the white walls or spokes…
yes, 6 to 7 threads should give you enough space for alignment to be done right. Check out the belltech instructions too if you can't remember the size, it says on there as well
@@jkss007 if you don't want to spend the money for the drop spindles, just do the torsion bar method. Ride quality will suffer a bit but can get you low on the cheap and just add some blocks to the rear
Should be riding like a Cadillac I just figured you would have lowered it a little bit lower but it looks good the way it sits but then you are running a 16-in rim so it's not going to come down much more probably go to a 15 in rim 50/15 that will get you down a little bit lower
Rides way better than the Mazda that’s for sure. We like the 16s right now so we are happy with the current stance. If anything maybe it’ll be dropped an inch more in the future
@@FlakeGarage you must still have the bump stops in the Mazda I took all my bump stops out at my Nissan front and back rides like a Cadillac the Mazda should ride like a Cadillac as long as it doesn't have the bump stops but I do like to drop spindles I had that on my last mini
Yo bro,that looks bad ass and I’d never used drop spindles on my 86 1/2 I turned the torching bars but next time I’ll use the drop spindles for sure.great job guys!!!!
Turning the torsion bars is definitely the easier and cheapest way to go about it. The drop spindles helps keep your suspension geometry closer to stock and gives you a better ride vs torsions turn. If you can get some, definitely recommend it but torsions will give you the look just the same haha
I have installed the belltech lowering spindles and blocks, however I am debating on what shocks to get. How have the belltech shock you installed held up?
i installed 4inch drop, when i installed it makes this weird noise like it’s grinding, when i looked under the truck, it has metal shavings by the trans anyone know ?
Are they angled blocks? Anything bigger than a 3 inch needs to be angled for the driveshaft to line up properly and run right. If they aren’t most likely your shaft is grinding
I have a 97, and it's lowered 4 inches in the back. I was installing this and when it was all said and done, my rims are too small. They are 14s stock nissan rim, but it grinds on the bottom arm, and the tie rod
Yes, you can’t use the factory 14” wheels with this kit. We have that on the description as well. Some 15s work and some might still give you issues. A 16” for sure should clear the spindles
What do you think the challenges I'll run Into doing a 4 inch rear drop plus 2 inch in front with drop spindles (2inch more in front with torsion bars adjustment) .. gonna be running 13x7 wires..
Depending on the size of the tire you might just scrape on steep entrances and hit the axle on the frame on big dips. You'll need some better shocks as well but I think it's all very manageable
Just bought this kit but with the sway bars I seen in the comment that is best to go with 16 inch rims I have 15x8.5 forgot the offset would I still be fine
If the offset is low enough you should be good, but pay close attention when you put everything back together and move slowly at first to make sure it all clears
I would look for some nice shocks that can accommodate whatever height you have on the truck. For a smooth ride you might want to get softer shocks. Also a good tire with a good sidewall will also help your ride be smoother. Low profile tires make your ride more harsh
hey yall those headlights are fire! where did you get em from? i love the tutorials too fr fr i have a hardbody an im about to change my steering wheel out too ::) 💯great work!
Drop spindle keeps your factory suspension geometry and ride quality while lowering 2 inches. Torsion bars will affect your suspension and ride quality. Torsion bars is the cheap way to lower vs an expensive spindle
Can u explain more in depth about the brake caliper I'm doing the same kit on my 90 hardbody but the caliper bolt doesn't align with the spindle it's just a little off idk if 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder makes a huge difference but both models use the same kit so I'm most likely doing something wrong
You have to reuse the factory bolt that came out of the spindle on the old assembly. The one that held that middle cross piece on the back. Not sure if I’m explaining it well but it’s what shows up around minute 23:35
@@FlakeGarage yea I used both smaller bolts but my issue at hand is that the bracket hits the spindle itself I read on forums that have to grind a bit off where it hits but I wanna try to avoid that 🤔
Ok bro. I got my front and rear kit put in 4inch block s and 2 inch drop spindles ( got pull the torsion a little bit to get the front down more ) .. but here’s my problem. My tie rod end is rubbing the inside of my rim . Stock steely rims ( Side note ) .. so I’m thinking bigger rims is a must not going to work with the stock 14 inch rims .. but I also thought a spacer would work until I got my new rims in . So what do y’all think .. yeah I said y’all ( down south ) lol
You CANNOT use the factory 14" wheels with the new spindles. Getting some spacers might help but you definitely have to upgrade to bigger wheels to be safe. I think we missed that on the video itself but we definitely added it to the description above the tools list. 16" wheels will clear everything. Anything smaller might clear with the right specs but I'd recommend just going 16 and above
Make sure the nut is in and hit the side of the spindle hard with a hammer and it should release the ball joint. Another method would be to rent a ball joint removal tool from autozone and use that too.
Yeah you can definitely do that. Going with the spindle vs just using torsion for the 4 inch drop will make your ride smoother since you are keeping your suspension geometry almost factory
@@barrymonroy7138 Basically grab the big tie rod end and count 6 threads from the very edge that goes into the adjusting sleeve and cut those off. This will give you the extra space needed inside the sleeve to align. That's the easiest explanation I can give you. If you are still having issues, i'd recommend getting someone that knows locally to help you.
Guys if you are going to install drop spindles, make sure you have 16 inch wheels (some 15s fit but it varies). YOU CANNOT USE FACTORY 14" WHEELS with the drop spindles!
I'll b good with 18 in titan wheels?
The details you gave was amazing along with needed tools is what other channels are missing thank you 😁
thank you guys! i bought the kit and already did the front side🎉😊 you guys helped alot!
Hi I just did the job in my 94 nissan I see your videos for do the job my self hope in the alignment goes good thanks
i followed scoobie at the moment i got a 97 and im just looking for the right rims but im definitely buying this suspension upgrade kit thank u
good video brotha!!!!!!! thanks for the shout out... can't go wrong with drop spindles and belltech shocks!
You are welcome! And for sure, you can’t go wrong, rides great!
@@FlakeGarage I do the same kit the other day and it don’t drive well after lining
@galaxykode did you cut the tie rod ends?
Thank you 🙏 totally worth watching at first i was intimated now I’m going to tackle it. Thank u!!!!!
Dude nice vid very well made and straight forward
Thanks bro!
Hell of a video 🔥 detailed it very well 🤙🏻 I just got a 86 Nissan and plan on going to lowrider route with spokes & chrome add ons but wondering what size tire and rims you got? Ain’t trying to scrape up the white walls or spokes…
Good video, I appreciate the knowledge.
Nice 411 and video. will be seen this again for hits and its 6threats to cut right.
yes, 6 to 7 threads should give you enough space for alignment to be done right. Check out the belltech instructions too if you can't remember the size, it says on there as well
Right on thanks am see how to get it drop if i dont use spindles first
@@jkss007 if you don't want to spend the money for the drop spindles, just do the torsion bar method. Ride quality will suffer a bit but can get you low on the cheap and just add some blocks to the rear
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Thank you very much guys good video
down to every detail ! thanks
Hope it helps you out!
Should be riding like a Cadillac I just figured you would have lowered it a little bit lower but it looks good the way it sits but then you are running a 16-in rim so it's not going to come down much more probably go to a 15 in rim 50/15 that will get you down a little bit lower
Rides way better than the Mazda that’s for sure. We like the 16s right now so we are happy with the current stance. If anything maybe it’ll be dropped an inch more in the future
@@FlakeGarage you must still have the bump stops in the Mazda I took all my bump stops out at my Nissan front and back rides like a Cadillac the Mazda should ride like a Cadillac as long as it doesn't have the bump stops but I do like to drop spindles I had that on my last mini
Yo bro,that looks bad ass and I’d never used drop spindles on my 86 1/2 I turned the torching bars but next time I’ll use the drop spindles for sure.great job guys!!!!
Turning the torsion bars is definitely the easier and cheapest way to go about it. The drop spindles helps keep your suspension geometry closer to stock and gives you a better ride vs torsions turn. If you can get some, definitely recommend it but torsions will give you the look just the same haha
I just got my truck aligned and I ordered the drop so whenever I do this to my truck would I have to get a realignment?
Yeah it would be recommended to get the front aligned again
Great explanation man 🤙🤙
Thinking of getting the drop spindles for my 97 Nissan pick up, I’m running 15x8.5 on 225/50 do you think I will have any problems ?
Not sure, the spindle might hit on the wheels, 15s are always a bit of a coin flip, some fit fine, other rub on it and you can't use them
Love the rims
I have some 15" x 10" rims on my 94 D21, will that have any issues with the spindle?
It's a toss up with 15s. Some fit, some don't, it'll all depend on the wheel style, offset and size so I can't tell you for sure it won't or will
What size wheels are those?
I have installed the belltech lowering spindles and blocks, however I am debating on what shocks to get. How have the belltech shock you installed held up?
If you are only doing the 2/3 drop, they are perfect and have been riding great so far. They are stock like but beefier
@@FlakeGarage Thanks bro, going to order them. What size are your rims? My rims are too wide and when I drive it's rubbing.
Question i couldn't find drop kits for a 2003 nissan, I can see only for 99-00 this drops will fit
Unfortunately I haven’t worked on any 98+ Nissans so I can’t confirm if they’ll work
what wheel specs are you running on the mazda?
I own a 1998 frontier and dropped it 4 inches. are these shocks compatible for my truck? if not are there any other shocks you recommend me getting?
I believe belltech still makes shocks for your model truck 98-04 so give their website a search for the part number you need
i installed 4inch drop, when i installed it makes this weird noise like it’s grinding, when i looked under the truck, it has metal shavings by the trans anyone know ?
Are they angled blocks? Anything bigger than a 3 inch needs to be angled for the driveshaft to line up properly and run right. If they aren’t most likely your shaft is grinding
I have a 97, and it's lowered 4 inches in the back. I was installing this and when it was all said and done, my rims are too small. They are 14s stock nissan rim, but it grinds on the bottom arm, and the tie rod
Yes, you can’t use the factory 14” wheels with this kit. We have that on the description as well. Some 15s work and some might still give you issues. A 16” for sure should clear the spindles
What do you think the challenges I'll run Into doing a 4 inch rear drop plus 2 inch in front with drop spindles (2inch more in front with torsion bars adjustment) .. gonna be running 13x7 wires..
Depending on the size of the tire you might just scrape on steep entrances and hit the axle on the frame on big dips. You'll need some better shocks as well but I think it's all very manageable
Just bought this kit but with the sway bars I seen in the comment that is best to go with 16 inch rims I have 15x8.5 forgot the offset would I still be fine
If the offset is low enough you should be good, but pay close attention when you put everything back together and move slowly at first to make sure it all clears
I have a '95 2wd and I'm looking to upgrade the suspension for a smoother ride. What is your suggestion?
I would look for some nice shocks that can accommodate whatever height you have on the truck. For a smooth ride you might want to get softer shocks. Also a good tire with a good sidewall will also help your ride be smoother. Low profile tires make your ride more harsh
hey yall those headlights are fire! where did you get em from? i love the tutorials too fr fr i have a hardbody an im about to change my steering wheel out too ::) 💯great work!
We did a full video on them, check it out here ruclips.net/video/d5zSYqKfkyQ/видео.html and the link to them is in the description
I may have missed it but what’s the difference from the drop spindle and loosing the torsion bars ?
Drop spindle keeps your factory suspension geometry and ride quality while lowering 2 inches. Torsion bars will affect your suspension and ride quality. Torsion bars is the cheap way to lower vs an expensive spindle
@@FlakeGarage thank you!!!!
Can u explain more in depth about the brake caliper I'm doing the same kit on my 90 hardbody but the caliper bolt doesn't align with the spindle it's just a little off idk if 4 cylinder or 6 cylinder makes a huge difference but both models use the same kit so I'm most likely doing something wrong
You have to reuse the factory bolt that came out of the spindle on the old assembly. The one that held that middle cross piece on the back. Not sure if I’m explaining it well but it’s what shows up around minute 23:35
@@FlakeGarage yea I used both smaller bolts but my issue at hand is that the bracket hits the spindle itself I read on forums that have to grind a bit off where it hits but I wanna try to avoid that 🤔
@@bruhmantioum541 It's hard for me to picture what bracket, can you send me some pictures through instagram? that'll probably make it easier
Link takes me to Amazon app and says it does not fit my 1990 Nissan D21
That’s the kit we are using. It should fit fine on a 90s hardbody
Hi there, great video. I'm curious, what ARE the torque specs for the spindle castle nut?
This video has been great help lowering my D21.
That’s a good question, we couldn’t find a specific setting for it so we just went with what we thought was enough
Did you take out the front bump stops?
We did not take out the bump stops with this because nothing is really changing as far as the travel on the control arm
Ok bro. I got my front and rear kit put in 4inch block s and 2 inch drop spindles ( got pull the torsion a little bit to get the front down more ) .. but here’s my problem. My tie rod end is rubbing the inside of my rim . Stock steely rims ( Side note ) .. so I’m thinking bigger rims is a must not going to work with the stock 14 inch rims .. but I also thought a spacer would work until I got my new rims in . So what do y’all think .. yeah I said y’all ( down south ) lol
You CANNOT use the factory 14" wheels with the new spindles. Getting some spacers might help but you definitely have to upgrade to bigger wheels to be safe. I think we missed that on the video itself but we definitely added it to the description above the tools list. 16" wheels will clear everything. Anything smaller might clear with the right specs but I'd recommend just going 16 and above
Ibought headlight like your but mine is there is moisture inside it is normal??
That’s not normal. The headlight might not be sealed properly. I’d try to return/exchange them if you can or find where the water is getting in
thanks bro im using it to my nissan hardbody double cab
I have no idea how you removed the spindle from the ball joints, I can’t prey them off of each other
Make sure the nut is in and hit the side of the spindle hard with a hammer and it should release the ball joint. Another method would be to rent a ball joint removal tool from autozone and use that too.
@@FlakeGarage OK going to try that, thanks!
It looks good 👍 I want to do mine. Do you have to use the drop spindles? Is there another way to drop the front?
You can reindex your torsion bars and get lower but your ride will suffer as well. It’s cheap to do tho
@@FlakeGarage ok good. Just a little intimidating I guess but I'm the type of person that if I take it apart,I can put it back together. Thanks bro
like bro
And what was done to the rear to match ?
Lowering blocks, video in our channel
Will this lowering kit belltech fit a 1987 Mazda b2000?
No!
@@FlakeGarage thxs brother
Awesome video! Has this improved handling?
The truck feels a bit more planted but I wouldn’t say is a night and day difference. Definitely more looks than anything
Niceeee wat kind rims and specs r they??
Can you let me know where you got those headlights at I' like those
You can grab a set here amzn.to/35iAvmn
What did you use to cut the threads?
Just a grinder and with taped up what we didn’t want to cut
SO CUT 6 THREDS OR 8 ?
Do 7 to be on the safe side
Size . On tires???
Where you buy the drop kit
Links in description
Why do you need to replace the drop spindles?
We are replacing factory spindles for drop spindles. You get a 2" drop with the new spindles.
@@FlakeGarage I need 4 inches down. Can I used the drop spindles for 2 inches and 2 inches by losing the torsion bars?
Yeah you can definitely do that. Going with the spindle vs just using torsion for the 4 inch drop will make your ride smoother since you are keeping your suspension geometry almost factory
Will this work for a 96?
Yes it should work the same on a 96
What size are the rims?
16x8 -5 offset
I wish you could of showed 😕us the process of cutting the tie rod ends...
Count 6 threads on the tie rod and cut it, we taped the threads we needed to cut with bright tape to see it. It's right at 21:50
Yeah that really doesn't really help.
@@barrymonroy7138 Basically grab the big tie rod end and count 6 threads from the very edge that goes into the adjusting sleeve and cut those off. This will give you the extra space needed inside the sleeve to align. That's the easiest explanation I can give you. If you are still having issues, i'd recommend getting someone that knows locally to help you.
Thi kit fit in b2600? Nice video!
This kit will not fit the Mazda b2600
Yo sick rims what rims is that
They are Ion Alloy 171 in 16x8 0 offset. You can find them here amzn.to/3gnLHBn
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Hi ,bro i want some parts for my truck ,here in dubai,you can share your watsap no pls?
You’ll have to find a local auto parts store to get them. Good luck 👍🏼
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What size are those tires?
Do these drop kits for front & back fit a 94?
Yes, from 84 to 97 hardbodies!