Arrma Outcast 8s vs Traxxas XMAXX 8s: Skate Park Destruction
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- This is the one people have been waiting for Arrma Outcast 8s vs Traxxas XMAXX 8s destruction and durability test at the skate park
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i already know the o8 will break an arm!!
and bent chassis!!
and shock shaft
@@KevinTalbotTV hi Kev how u doing your getting closer to a million every day
surprised the arms didn't break!! be the chassis is bent tho
Aren't the arms on the outcast 8s stronger than on the kraton?
Best XMaxx vs O8 comparison I’ve seen mate, loving the content! 👊🏻 was a good day out.
Thanks, just kept it true and real, had a blast doing the filming and Jack did justice with his edit.
Personally I haven’t had any breaks or damage on my outcast. I beat on it pretty hard too. However I don’t send mine to the stratosphere either. Highest jump was about 20ft. The weight alone is a reason I personally wouldn’t beat on it as extreme as you guys. Plus I feel the shocks are angled too much. Don’t think it’s a design flaw in the shocks but more like a design flaw in the geometry. Great video! Awesome edits!
Thanks, we do like the Outcast 8s, its a great truck. Think its a combination issue really, the wide angle of the shocks gives it more stability, but then the shock shaft is to small to handle the big jumps with the angle.
Needed to have narrower shocks, but that would ruin the handling, or thicker shock shafts. The EXB now has 6mm shafts so they have addressed the issue, just a shame they didn't go to 7mm shafts.
Thank you for watching and glad you liked the video 👍
Xmaxx is better
So tru I been in the hobbie now for about 3years. I don’t understand why send something 100ft? I can even see the RC and honestly might as well just get a drone or plane😂😂🤦🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️😃. Seeing the RC is the fun part don’t u want to appreciate the it moves, speed, shock articulation, body movements etc? I do like to watch the videos there’s a lot of other good stuff on here too, also to support our community. I did upgrade my shock shafts from the getgo and never had an issue unti 2days ago. I hit metal pole doing about 50mph and that was all!🤷🏻♂️😃cheers everyone just have some fun.👊🏼✌🏼🙏🏼
You are right with the geometrie. The shocks need a steeper angle, not much, just 1cm wider on the shocktower and everything would be fine. Lifting the suspension arms a few millimeters with the droop screws would help also
Definitely the best Xmaxx outcast 8s durability test having two drivers and one camera man will be a hard combo to complete agents
Thanks Martyn, thought we would keep it as fair as we could, both car effectively stock. We did have some fun making this one as you know 😂😂
100% agreed..👍
I own both as well and really never worry about the xmaxx breaking. I was jumping the xmaxx yesterday and a few times drilled it into the dirt and it was just fine. I know the Arrma would be smoked and going home with broken shocks and arms. I love these types of videos keep up the great work guys.
Thanks - yeah we are the same, im sae to take the outcast 8s out 😂 i know they can be tough with the money spent upgrading, but the Xmaxx is just tough and durable pretty much out the box
One word.
Okay two words
Fricken LEGENDARY!
Best heads up durability test-
Much love from across the pond!
🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🤝🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎🏎💪💪💪💪💪💪💪💪☝️☝️☝️☝️☝️
Wow thanks - really glad you liked it, we certainly had a lot of fun doing this one
Now that’s a good day of testing
We just picked up the Xmaxx a few days ago & it’s awesome!
It was a great day, just very cold. You will love the Xmaxx 👍
Great action in this video. Jack I am loving your editing skills bro. Looks like you all had a good time making this one. And you all weren’t shy about airing them out. Truly HARDCORE
Thanks matye, only one issue with jack doing such good edits, makes my videos look boring 😂😂 boys had great fun sending these cars
@@HardcoreRC he does a heck of a job. The variety is nice
@@norcalrc Thanks - he must get the creative side from his mum, its not from em thats for sure 😂😂
Keep it up guys just got an xmaxx and it's thanks to channels like yours 👍 what a fun way to enjoy the outdoors !
Thanks, just like sharing what we do 👍👍 hope you love the Xmaxx as much as we do, but im sure you will, its hard not to like it 😂
THAT WAS THE ONE OF MOST CREATIVE AND EPIC REVIEWS !!!!!!!!!!!!
Many thanks, I'm glad you enjoyed it, tried to make it as fair as possible to give a good side by side review of each cars durability
Love both of them, but the xmaxx takes the durability. I'd still prefer the outcast 8s just for the handling. Not a crazy basher, most I'd change are the shock shafts and arms.
You are spot on, both great cars, whilst the O8S had this result i still love it as it does handle very well, especially for its size and weight, just need to sort the shocks out some how, then it will be on another level
@@HardcoreRC I agree with the both of use guys
@@rclunatic Thanks 👍👍
It’s official boys!! The X Maxx is the undisputed 1/5 scale basher beast of 2021.
Crazy how much higher though our beloved OurvArrma Kraton 6S can soar!
I might say if you take a size out of the equation the Arrma Kraton 6S is the dominant all time basher. Thoughts?
Yes no question in my mind the is the undisputed 1/5th basher. The 6s cars can go crazy high that is for sure, our EXB hits stupid heights, think we recorded 49ft once.
But this year is going to be very interesting once we get to summer as i know of some crazy 1/5th builds that are going on right now that whilst not stock could be jumping to even greater heights.
All that said the Kraton EXB is still our favourite car
This durability test may, or may not be a fair comparison. The Outcast 8S is how much heavier than the X-Maxx? But the Outcast should at the bare minimum, last a few hard landings without bending the shock shafts. If I'm investing that kind of money on any RC over $1000 dollars, I would expect it to last me a few bashing sections, without busting an A-arm or bend some shock shafts.
Think its a fair comparison as they are both 1/5 scale monster stunt / bashing trucks, both cost roughly the same just one is made of plastic and the other is metal. Totally agree that with the amount the outcast costs it should be able to take jumps without shocks bending on good landings, if the landing were bad and something breaks then that's just RC life, but they should not bend on good landings, they were actually bent after just the second landing.
Hopefully Arrma will take this onboard and revise the design to sort out the issue
"Keep going til they break", love that!
Had to be done, its a two hour drive, no point putting it away so soon 👍👍
Xmaxx, tough like duplo. I prefer technic Lego 😂
Just awesome!! This is the best and most fair comparison I've seen yet between these 2!😎 all good landings and the same amount of jumps from the same ramp... the winner was clear and this is the last comparison video I need to see.. the Xmaxx will go perfectly alongside my kraton 6s😎😎
Glad you enjoyed it! and you will love the Xmaxx, first car we put in the boot when we go out now
@@HardcoreRC i can see why, you guys sent it to the moon😎what would be you and your boys 2nd and 3rd go to bashers?
dooood we might end up having the same setup!
When you played Silent Night at the end.
*Arrma felt that*
Hehe thanks - felt it was a great song choice 👍
My custom Mojave says hello😁
Yes, definitely expected result! O8S needs a V2 ! Come on Arrma, you can do it 💪
Indeed - or just put the EXB shocks on the RTR, its the biggest weak spot
Outcast 8s exb for the win 💪
@@jaayyboy28 With the bigger shocks for sure, dunno why they still dont put those bigger shocks on th RTR
Never seen shock shafts bend like that of course never saw a bash like that before. The music is a nice addition also keep up the good work
LOL - these cars need to be tested 😂😂 glad you liked the video and the edit - my son did this one and think he knocked it out the park 👍👍
Great comparison
Thanks - tried to keep it as fair as possible 👍👍
I prefer the Xmaxx simply for the fact that all parts can be found in any number of my local hobby shops and I don’t have to wait on shipping of parts like with most Arrma vehicle stuff. This may just be my local area but Traxxas stuff is just so easy to find day of.
Think its the same in most places, plus Traxxas parts are sooo much cheaper
That you Jackfrags? Haha awesome vid, thinking about buying my friends Xmaxx and Erevo! Really looking forward to bashing the Xmaxx!
Go for it, Xmaxx is a great RC
Shock's off! Thanks for sharing, from the states.
Your welcome, thanks for watching 👍
Bananarama - classic 😎 So pleased I went for the X-Maxx (got the 19T pinion in it but it was so cold today I didn’t get best speed) 👍
Hehe - to be fair we were pretty sure the shocks were going to bend so had that catch phrase ready to go. Xmaxx is just a great all round RC and tough as hell, also dirt cheap to fix. Yep its pretty cold right now so not much fun getting out, roll on the summer
Great comparison guys 🔥👍 Ya just can't beat a XMAXX far as durability and they have a fair amount of power straight out the box I'm more into competitive off road racing in my opinion the Outcast would make for a better race truck it's a little more stable so I would rather have the Outcast It's obvious the XMAXX is the King of bashing though ✌️
O8S is more stable, would love to see a load of O8S racing thats for sure
Nice vid fellas, if you don’t mind me asking what camera you guys use?
Currently using a GoPro Hero9 - may i ask why you ask ?
You should do the same test again with the m2c shafts in. I've just literally fitted m2c shafts to my ops just before I saw this video. One of the best xmaxx vs o8s durability test I've seen 👍🏽👍🏽
Thanks for your kind words 👍👍 i have fitted the M2C shafts and lighter oil 350cst, then we do plan to do the test again, but will leave it a few weeks so its not repeating so quick
Nice! I love how you guys drive it for it's intended purpose. Big air
Its the only way to drive, no point treating them with kid gloves 😂
Nice video lads. I’m not sold on the 8S trucks. Bit big and heavy for skate parks no? I wonder if the Kraton 6S would be a better option for most people, even that little Typhon was flying well
Thanks, Xmaxx handles skate parks well, especially for its size, but the 6s cars do jump higher and fasters thats for sure, our Kraton EXB has hit 49 feet off this ramps, and i think our Talion will likely beat that as well
That was some great testing guys 👍🏁
Thanks - glad you liked it, will be part two in the future, with M2C shafts and lighter oil
So I don’t have an Outcast 8s yet but I would have to agree XMaxx is way more durable then the Outcast 8s without a bunch of chassis upgrades. The XMaxx is really impressive and with a few fairly cheap upgrades it’s crazy 💪!!! Great video 👊👍
Thanks - really loving the Xmaxx, also love the O8S, but for what we do with the cars the Xmaxx wins - its crazy what it can take
Martyn in the background FINISH IT 🤣
LOL, Martyn was loving it, he is a bad influence 😂😂
The xmaxx is the skate park / jump king but I still prefer the outcast for everything else. Handles and looks much better.
Hit the nail on the head, also the O8S just looks stunning as well
Great and fun comparison! Have an XMaxx and want an Outcast next! Both beasts!
Thanks - yes they are both beats, i would suggest getting the EXB Outcast 8s though as it comes with thicker shock shafts
This video is too well done for fan boys to blame end user for lack of durability LMAO
Thanks that was our aim, have everything the same as much as possible, so no one could say it was different weather, different skate park etc etc etc. The only thing different was the drivers, but each landed every single jump perfectly on the wheels, expect strangely when they both crashed on the same run up (Xmaxx before the jump and Outcast after the jump)
you are not friends with kevin talbot are you? to me thats the same skate park as the one he goes to sometimes.
It is the same skate park, as you can see on some of our other videos we do meet up sometimes, plus this skate park is just down the road from ARC raceway. Probably the best skate park for sending the cars, certainly what we have found in the South East UK
Awesome video as usual 👏 editing and music are 👌💯
Thank you - Jack did this one, he always knocks the edit out the park, need him to edit more 👍
Great comparison video! You got a new sub from me!
Thank you, glad you enjoyed and thank you for the sub 👍
Was always going to be the xmax. It’s a beast . Great test
Thanks - the O8S did jump and handle in the air very well for its weight, but it just cant compete with the Xmaxx.
Sorry we have some problems with yt comments: some disappears from our page just after after the notification with no reason so I read only a part of your comment about lipo batteries on our channel! I can only answer here: we use dxf from two years ago so we had many of them and all we said on the video is based on our personal experience.
Thats ok - just said i like DXF packs as well for bashing, will be getting more, but wouldn't say they had good punch or lasted that long. For bashing and the price cant go wrong, but for racing, speed running, drag racing and wanting them to last lots of charges - nope deffo not for that
@@HardcoreRC we use them only for bashing, but a friend of us is a professional racer and use dxf batteries and he love them!!!
@@2040RC He may be being given better packs for racing.
As said love them for bashing as they are cheap, but for power and longevity - nope.
Did a test for DXF vs real race spec lipo - both 4s LiHv 8,000mah packs - ruclips.net/video/YRSlCRpENc4/видео.html
After just 20 charges and already have cells breaking down with high IR and not holding full charge - im not complaining as also had this happen to much more expensive lipos
Congratulations on 2k subs lads 👌
Thanks - im well shocked - the last video gave us a big boost, but with it the a fair bit of silly hate etc, but always knew it would - Fanboys will be Fanboys 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC how can they hate the truth 🤷♂️! It was a fair video and you done your upmost to keep it that way......... roll on easing of lockdown 😁
@@jaayyboy28 Thanks, we kept it as fair as we possibly could, but some people just cant handle the truth (name the film 😂😂).
Just look at some of the comments, this video will likely also have the most thumbs down, next to the other outcast vs xmaxx video we did
Hands down the best fair comparison between the xmaxx n o8s.. Just ordered an Xmaxx .. Thank you.❤️
Thanks - that was our aim to be clear and fair, plus have fun doing it of course 😂😂 hope you enjoy the Xmaxx as much as we do
@@HardcoreRC What batteries do you recommend for the xmaxx 8s?
@@kasparov937 Im running either the Turnighy Rapids 5,500mAh packs from Hobbyking hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-rapid-5500mah-4s2p-140c-hardcase-lipo-battery-pack-w-xt60-connector-roar-approved.html?affiliate_code=FASSYMTTSPUEGLJ&_asc=6060877247 or DXF 8,0000 or 8,4000mAh packs
I kinda don't fault the outcast for bending shock shafts I mean heavy 5th scale trucks arn't really made to handle that kind of impact given its weight but I'm definitely impressed with the Xmaxx. I'm hesitant to get one because every traxxas vehicle I own required A TON of upgrades just to be able to make it through 1 Lipo or pair of lipos without somthing failing . both my revo 3.3 and e revo and Emaxx were absolutely terrible ! They cost me hundreds in upgrades to actually enjoy them and I still won't jump them .
Outcast is a big heavy beast, my biggest issue is that the truck is marketed and sold to be able to do this and it cant 🤷♂️🤷♂️
This is the only Traxxas we own, although do have another Traxxas coming very soon, so cant comment on how their other car perform, but the Xmaxx is really a great RC.
It does have some weak spots that are cheap and easy to deal with:
1) Rear hubs - change out to RPM that have a much bigger bearing, also RPM have just released front hubs, but not aware of any issues with the front hubs.
2) Hinge pins can pop out as the a arms flex, just replace certain hinge pins with two packs on RPM hinge pin that come with nuts on the end.
3) Spur and pinion gears, if they go replace with Hot racing or GSD hardened steel ones.
4) Diff out drives can crack, $20 gets you output drive cup rings.
We have beat the snot out of ours, broken 1 A Arm, front bumper mount, rear diff cover (£3.15)
$930 for XMaxx, $900+ all the broken parts over and over again for the Arrma. Even the EXB's can't hold their own. Talk is cheap but parts aren't. Great demo and driving.
Thanks - cant comment on the EXB version as dont have one, but they have made the shocks better on the EXB, is it enough though
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Great vid mate....looks aweaome
Perfect spot👑
Thank, glad you enjoyed it, had to be this skate park for the test 👍
So glad I went for an XMAXX over an OC8.. Have just swapped it for a DBLXe though. Great vid guys, keep up the good work. FINISH IT!!!!!
Thanks, LOL finish it 😂😂 really like the look of the DBLX - just have to get a bigger proper car or van to carry all the bigger cars in
Xmaxx all the way. But outcast is good but just what I expected the x-maxx is the toughest in my opinion. For the most part xmax Outkast they're both really good
To be honest they are both good trucks, but the Xmaxx is just a much better and more durable basher at skate parks etc, Outcast 82 does handle on the ground better though
Great video guys! Keep up the content
Thank you and thank you for watching 👍
Loved this video good job showing the durability, you guys drive great also
Thanks - just showing it how it is, nothing stagged or hidden 👍
First 🙂love the video and how are you✌🏻who edited the video because it’s very good
I did, Thankyou Emily
@@JackLee-yk4sn no problem 👍
Thanks - first gain, Jack edited this one - im not that good 😂😂
@@HardcoreRC the music in this video is so good
@@Emily_xx5 Jack sure did pick some good tunes for this video - love the end bit as well
Awesome bashing session 👍👍👍 Greetz to you UK guys 😘
Thanks Kimberly, hopefully get to meet the Basher Queen if you come back over in the future
awesome how high they go and you guys getting some good laughs from the bent shock
That's, yeah for big rigs they do jump high, we did have a good laugh at the shocks bending - cant help laughing at Bendy Wendy 😂
What a shoot out you guys are Pros, PS play some OZZY for backgroung music he wont care.
Thanks - would love to play / add some commercial tracks, but then RUclips goes mad and you get copy rights strikes/claims flying around 😥
That was an epic watch. Enjoyed very much 👏👏👏👍👍👍
Glad you enjoyed it - thank you for the watch 👍
The stance of the shocks by the outcast are more on an angle instead of the xmaxx. A lot of energie when impact comes from the side when the shock going in. Maybe if you try to put it straight under the car it helps saving your shocks.
Cant change the stance of the shock though, its either bad design or inadequate shock shaft thickness, i suspect the latter in view the EXB now comes with 6mm shafts, shame they haven't also upgraded the RTR to 6mm shafts as well
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Thanks - there are plenty better than us, but thanks for saying we are the best, really appreciated 👍
Great video as always 👍
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
Drill bigger holes in the shock pistons and that bent shock shaft stuff will go away. The stock holes in the pistons are to small and big jumps the shocks can’t suppress fast enough and it creates the bending in the shock shafts. Awesome bash session though.
Thanks for the tips! others have said that as well, have switched to the M2C shafts and thinner oil, will re-do again once we get the O8S servo back from warranty as that packed up, also waiting for the new 7mm M2C shock system to be released
Great Video. We was there Saturday.
Thanks - love that skate park, might bump into each other one day
Heading out to bash in the snow right now. Listening in I’ll watch when I’m done driving 👊👍 this is gone be good!!!!!
Have fun bashing in the snow, we had snow today but no where near the amount they forecast 😥
@@HardcoreRC Definitely was a fun time not many jumps the snow got deep real fast. Mojave EXB first run in the snow!!!!!! Wow that thing is impressive!!!!
Outcast 8s very heavy compared with 6s version which remains the better outcast.Xmaxx very tough and looks faster in this clip compared with outcast run up???.Mr Brucie 80 percent right.Are they both using 8s lipo in them?.
Xmaxx was hitting 43mph on the run up and the outcast 40mph based on the GPS, yes both were running on 8s
Great video. I subbed. Not for just video but love the music tooo!! Hopefully more videos to that great music. Was feeling it!;)
Thanks and thanks for the Sub, my son jack did this edit, we take it in turns, but he will be very happy you liked his music as well 👍👍
You might like this one as well 😂😂 ruclips.net/video/agHXPT5eCIY/видео.html
@@HardcoreRC just watched and gave a like. Thank u. Very nice again 😊😊
Did the Xmaxx have the stock steering servo in it ? How about the stock center drive shaft ? As well as the stock spur gear ? I ask because I'd really like to get the Xmaxx but I've personally seen to many brand new out of the box trucks break as well as tons of videos after their first jump and not even close to the height of what you guys are doing .
The Xmaxx in this video was all stock except for a Max6 ESC (changed from Traxxas as i dont like to use adapters and dont have any lipos with Traxxas connectors, dont like cutting the connectors off any RTR ESC due to then losing the warranty) and the red A arm, which is still s stock A Arm just red (its not an RPM A Arm for example).
Even after this video we are still running the stock servo, still on same center drive shaft, although we did bend it at the last BMX video, but then on another jump bent it back 😂😂
All RC's will break if they land bad, but the Xmaxx has had some really hard bad hits and just taken it. in this one it takes some big hits, its also where the A Amr broke, jack said RPM but it wasnt, it was a stock red arm: ruclips.net/video/GrX8uUUCNZk/видео.html
Always said i would never own an Xmaxx, but boy was i wrong and now wish we got one way sooner.
Something off with the geometry for the shafts to all be bending like that.
It was all stock and no way to change the geometry, but your right the angle is too wide for the thickness of the shafts, hence why the went to 6mm shafts on the EXB but still left the RTR at 5mm shafts
Great video!!!! Love my X Maxx and love making videos of it in action!! 👍🏻👍🏻
Thank - love our Xmaxx as well, just a great RC all round 👍👍
mmhh very interessting. I jump hig and had no bending except when I landed side ways. Also the xmaxx is not stock and weights less then the outcast. But on the other hand I dont jump when its cold.
Many people have had this very issue with the shocks, hence why M2C brought our tougher shafts and also Arrma have beefed them up to 6mm shafts on the EXB, both cars jumping on same day so temperature had zero to do with it. Why do you say the Xmaxx wasnt stock ?
Hey question for you I watch yours, Kevs and Clairs videos all the time. And it seems like it’s either ready to rain or has just rained. Do you guys get to see the sun much or is it always dark and gloomy weather over there?? It just seems like everything is always wet in the videos 😆
LOL, lets just say the weather has been dark and gloomy for a while now 😂 but at least RC's and the gang make the days out all light and fun 👍
Seems like another traxxas fan boy video lol I’ve had both brands and for sure out the box Arrma took the win for me every time. I’ve had to mod my traxxas rigs way more to make them anywhere close to being tough as my Arrma rigs!
Hardly a Traxxas fan boy, out of the 15 cars we own 13 of them are Arrma, one Traxxas and one Proline. No Arrma car out the box has been as tough as the Xmaxx, but thats not to say all Traxxas cars are good - dont know as dont onw any others, however, i can say we have bent every single 6s cars chassis we own - even both our Kraton EXB chassis.
Arrma 3s cars are super tough out the box, 6s cars need a lot spent to make them tough, EXB is the best that Arrma do, but still needs better hinger pins, hinge pin holders and chassis (they never made it wider at the back so still bends far to easy).
8s cars - well you saw the result from this video.
I highly doubt your xmaxx in this video was bone stock like the outcast you can see you already switched out the of the a arms on the xmaxx ;) but you can keep your opinion from what I’ve owned out the box Arrma is far better and takes way less mods out the box but run what you like out the box I’ll stick with my Arrma rigs!
@@gsxrfun7774 its got a stock red A Arm on it. the only other item changed i the ESC, i put a max6 in as had issues with the adapters, but the ESC doesnt add or take anything away.
If you want to send me 4 stock shock shafts i will be happy to change the ESC back to the traxxas one and do this all over again, the result will be the same.
As said im no fan boy (i used to be, but then i saw the light), but the way you are commenting and acting would highly suggest you are a Arrma fan boy 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Both Arrma and Traxxas make good and bad RC's - i think that Arrma make the best and toughest 1/10 cars, but when it comes to 1/5th scale the Xmaxx wins.
Lol I’ve dealt with an xmaxx before multiple of them and even from my local hobby shop I’ve seen multiple fail esc and motors and the drivetrains is junk have had them fail within a few runs so add it up :) I’ve had the best bang for the buck with Arrma out the box. Compare the a arms or shock shafts prices wise send me an esc for the price of an a arm or shock shaft ;)
@@gsxrfun7774 it is clear from the footage the xmaxx is the much better car, this being it durability and so on, they are both good cars but xmaxx is a clear winner by a mile, even if the outcast is good. The xmaxx is 10000x better. As hardcore said, the arrma 1/10th is the best arrma cars and for the price. But the metal arrmas need a lot of upgrades before they compare to and stock traxxas
Outcast 8s just isn’t a basher can’t even rotate well in the air either. Surprised ur rear camber arm or what ever it called didn’t strip the plastic threads. I do love my o8s but it can’t compare to xmaxx
It actually handled really well in the air, especially for its weight, didnt think the boys would be able to back flip it. Seems that people who have both he cars totally get this video, but some that only have the Arrma just cant get their heads around it or accept the result 🤷♂️🤷♂️
Great video guy's.. 😎.. really stepped up the game with this one..👍
Thanks, i just did the filming, the boys did the driving and Jack did the editing - team effort all round 👍
That was an epic comparison. Xmaxx is King! Awesome vid 👍
Thanks, die hard Arrma fans boys are not happy though 😂😂
The winner isn't just durability. It's up front cost, maintenance, repair cost, run time, repair time and requirements ( aka parts availability in your regional area). Can you do an update with this comparison please. You could be the first to truly show a winner.
Thats an easy one then, Xamxx wins that hands down, upfront cost is about the same, parts are way cheaper and more available for the Xmaxx, and the Xmaxx is way easier to work on, for example break and A Arm and its 3 screws to replace it
Also, that is the most mangled shock shaft I've ever seen 😂👍👍
LOL - they were pretty bad, going to have fun getting that bad one out to fix it 😂😂
Great video guys. Loved the walk of shame lol
Thanks - still love the silent night track at the end
Great video guys!
Thanks for watching, glad you enjoyed it 👍
Outcast shocks are more angled than the xmaxx shocks, so yes, it will allow the xmaxx jump higher, but try to corner with xmaxx at more then 30 mph, then try it with outcast and you will understand the difference in the shock design.
Outcast is wider, heaver and lower center of gravity is why it corners better, but im pretty sure the Outcast isnt designed for racing, its supposed to be a stunt truck capable of doing big jumps and back flips etc. Dont get me wrong i still love the O8S, and its the best looking RC we have, but out the box for the price it cant keep up with the Xmaxx for doing what it was built to do - be a stunt truck.
Also forgot to add - the Xmaxx didnt jump higher, they jumped the exact same higher being 36 ft
@@HardcoreRC as you said, the outcast is wider and heavier than the xmaxx, and it’s less flexible due to the aluminum chassis, so no way it can jump as high as xmaxx.
If all you want is to jump as high as you can, or drive straightly, definitely go for xmaxx. If you want all around basher which can jump (i don’t think it was meant to jump 34 ft), do nice backflip, and even compete very nicely with any other 1/5 truggy(which xmaxx just cant do) , def go for outcast.
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Thanks for the sub and glad you liked the video 👍
Yah the outcast shock shafts are definitely A massive weak spot.. the reason the xmaxx shocks are lasting is because they are much longer so they have more compression to handle how tall The xmaxx is compared to the outcast... but yah in general outcast is also heavier...If I was to choose from both I would get A xmaxx chassi and put the kraton 8s shell on it with A hobbywing max5 combo, Belt Driven With A Set Of Jims Bearings All Around... Also would change the stock radio because I don't really like the feeling of the Tqi...
Issue with the Outcast shocks is the angle they are at to make is handle better, plus they are just too thin for the car, hence why the EXB K8 now has 6mm shafts and M2C are working on 7mm version. Problem with going Max5 combo is the extra weight you would be adding, more weight means more things break easier 👍
But agree the TQI does suck a bit, will likely get round to changing to our Flysky NB4's
Nice video review bud love both them trucks just subscribed to your channel love Whot your doing I bet you break both um out bashing looks like the same place wear kev films bro 🙏😎
Thanks for the kind words and subscribing. Outcast doesn't come out much if im honest, to scared to bash it hard and have huge repair bills 😂😂 Xmaxx just takes so much abuse and is cheap to fix. It is one of the locations Kev bashes at yes, do do go out with him on occasions so you likely seen me and the boys in some of his videos
Yer I’ve got the notorious first day out brock it an day 2 3 4 till I upgraded it all now it a beast of a truck 🙏😎
Great video guys, loving the xmaxx 👍
Thanks, Xmaxx is just the jumping, skate park bashing big RC king stock out the box
Great durability test!! Like you said they both had the same usage and punishment. Xmaxx hails as King Basher yet again!! I have both also. The Outcast breaks every usage where the Xmaxx would have drove away.
Thanks - dont think it can be laid out any other way, also still love our Outcast 8s, but stock it just doesnt bash as well as the Xmaxx
K6s beats xmaxx 100x.
@@benphillips1149 K6 jumps higher true, but again stock K6 would not have survived the slam into the ramp when the jump when wrong, the chassis would have bent, i know as done it a few times with our V4 K6 and 2 EXB Kratons (bent the chassis on all of them).
Also what is the relevance of brining the K6 into this ? this is matching up two cars in the same class, both 1/5th scale 8s monster/stunt trucks, K6 vs ERevo 2.0 would be where the K6 would come in. Its a bit like someone doing a real car review of a Lamborghini Urus and you saying but a Lamborghini Huracan is x100 time better - its totally and utterly irrelevant
Wait till the exb outcast comes out. Xmaxx has been out for awhile now. When xmaxx first came out it was a 6s and slow as a terd. Wait till they come out with new versions of arrma. Kraton exb is a beast.
I did have high hopes for the Kraton 8s EXB, it was on my shopping list, but already seen quite a few bent chassis sadly, so looks like it still needs an M2C chassis. In the USA i can see the Kraton 8s EXB makes sense, but its just to expensive in the UK at $1,033 just for the roller. Dont see Arrma releasing an EXB 8s Outcast either, if they were going to why not release it at same time as the K8 EXB ? after all its the same except for the chassis, front shocks and body
I seen it up close. The beefed up the shock rods and ends. Also control arms are 1mm thicker in the front and 2mm thicker in the rear. Only thing I'm seeing is a mc2 chassis instead. I'm gonna wait for the rear shocks to become available and put them on my outcast. I just bought an xmaxx 2 weeks ago and the shock cap broke without a jump. Just flip over end. The 2nd time out I broke an a-arm. Just noticed I have a bad bearing as well. But they all break. Arrma has a 2 yr warranty and ya cant beat that.
@@joshdunbar9721 Arrma warranty is good, there is not question on that, were as Traxxas warranty is as much use as a chocolate teapot 😂
The new 6mm shock shafts do look good, just hope they are thick enough for the weight and the angle, just wish they had gone to at least 7mm, shock rod ends are a very good upgrade as well.
Presume you mean A Arms when you say control arms ? they are the same as the RTR no difference what so ever.
Yes they all break, just we have found the Xmaxx takes way more abuse and is far far far cheaper to fix in the UK, plus parts are more available.
This video was staged or set up, we made it as fair as possible and the results were the results, we are going to be doing round two with M2C shock shafts and thinner oil
The geometry on the OutCast seems a bit off from watching this. However, you did jump it 36ft high😂 and it weighs a bit more than the XMAXX. #M2C definitely needs to be onboard for even a slight chance of survival. Great video. Keep it guys.
Geometry is all stock, just the stock shocks cant take the weight, Arrma really should address it and put better tool steel shafts on as standard. It did handle very well in the air though
@@HardcoreRC Mainly what I meant is they have the Geometry off. Because if the rods don't bend they break the arms. You can use #M2C and it helps a lot. It also seems that in the videos I watched, the arms start to give up instead. Idk...just saying that's the appearance from this video and many more I have seen.
i think the problem with arenas geometry is the shocks pound outward too much, while the xmaxx shocks are more straight up and down. luckily, arrma listens and they will probably find a way to fix this in the v2 or something
@@levistewart5610 Gives them a reason to make a V2 and then sell it to people that already bought a V1 😂😂 i don't get how this got past any type of testing
@@HardcoreRC they probably don’t send their cars 36 feet for the test lol 😂
Cant believe you guys are sending them that hard! My XMAXX is still my baby, haha
Hehe - have to send them to see what they can do 😂 have to live up to our name as well 👍
i’ve had my xmaxx for just under a month and i broke the rear hub, bent 2 shock shafts. and blew a tire out and i didn’t even send it nearly as close to what you guys did in this video lol but i’d pick my xmaxx over anything,
@@agoogleuser5771 Rear hubs are weaker area deffo upgrade to the RPM rear hubs, tires cover up the inner hole with tape, that normally helps.
Shocks dont know as never bent them yet.
It is a great truck
I worked love to get an XMAXX, but Traxxas doesn't stand behind it the way they should. Too many broken ones right out of the box and when you ship it back to them it's all out of pocket. God forbid you drive it for a few minutes and find out there's something wrong with it. There's no refund or partial refund. Screw that!
What country are you in to have such bad service ? if anything wrong with anything in the UK its dealt with by the retailer we bought it from, we don't deal direct with the manufactures.
Great video guys
Thanks - glad you enjoyed it, thanks for watching 👍
Love it lads well done!
Thanks - round two will be coming soon, with M2C shock shafts and thinner oil
It’s really hard for me to take durability tests to heart, in general I mean. Everyone has a different experience, I’ve only had one shock shaft bend in any of my 3 arrma cars and it was because I hit a telephone pole going nearly max speed. There was much more damage than just the shock shaft lol but point is sometimes people have good experience with cars most online would say are bad and bad experiences with ones most would say are good. I know Rc are expensive but at the end of the day you’ll never know how a car will do under your driving style/skill level until you buy one and drive it yourself.
Oh course there is the odd lemon here or there and most manufacturers are great at sending replacements.
That is true to a degree, the 6s and 3s cars the shocks are ok, yes we have bent them but under extreme conditions, but for general every day use they are deffo up for the job. The Outcast 8s the shocks were just not up to the job for the size and weight of the car, Arrma knew this as well which is why they made the shafts thicker for the EXB version, but never updated the standard version, all fairly mutt now as the old RTR has now been discontinued.
Also would really call this a durability test, just normal heavy bashing, both cars were put through the same jumps, yet all four shafts bent on the Outcast.
Thanks for watching
Awesome.
Thank you! Cheers!
Lighter shock fluid?
Lighter shock oil and better shafts - have the M2C ones to put in, but that's not the point, this was to see what they could do basically stock - the Outcast failed badly
Wow !!!!
It's a great video.
Thank you for sharing great information and great videos.
Always be healthy and happy. 😉👍👍👍👍😉
Thanks Dude, hope you are keeping well 👍👍
That is why I am waiting for 2021 releases from Arrma and TRX as at the moment there is no as good builds as x-maxx. I love O8S look but durability is still on TRX side. Guys, are You going to repeat this test with fully upgraded Outcast? I am very interesting if that expensive upgrades can bit x-maxx 😁 awesome video Guys, thanks a lot for clarifying my doubts 👍👍👍
Will be interesting to see what comes out in 2021, seen some leaked pics of a Kraton 8s EXB, that could be interesting. No plans currently to sink a load of money into the O8S, if we do it will likely be to change it into a hybrid O/K8S. But the O8S does look stunning
@@HardcoreRC wow, that souds interesting. Can You explain what are the benefits from adding some (and which) parts from K8S to O8S?
@@danielnoname8352 Really waiting to see what the K8 EXB is going to have on it. But the main difference between the K8 and O8 is the chassis length and shock length / travel.
O8S has the same size shocks all round, being the rear K8 shocks. So my hybrid would be K8 chassis (Not Arrma 😂😂) with same length shocks all the way round, 800kv motor, then lots of other upgrades, but not ready to sink that sort of money into it currently
@@HardcoreRC can not wait for it with similar durability test. I saw today an interesting upgrade, rovan shocks, 10mm thickness, that looks good 😁
@@danielnoname8352 Sound similar to the 30 degree north shocks that i believe have 8mm shafts and are as cheap as chips to replace
Very enjoyable video!!
Thanks glad you liked it, we certainly had fun making this one 👍
Awesome video I have a x maxx and love it great job
Awesome! Thank you!
Love your videos guys.
I’ve got a Kraton Exb and I smashed the shock rod ends, but can’t find any in stock, can you recommend any others that would fit please?
Glad you like our videos. if its just the shock rod end then use these, far better than the stock ones www.modelsport.co.uk/index.php?product_id=371122
Yes it stays for Traxxas but they fit the Arrma 6s cars and better than the Arrma ones 😂
Cheers for that Dave, I will get some of them on order. Well I was thinking of buying an Outcast 8s but after watching your video I think I will buy the XMaxx!😉
Glad I bought the Xmaxx 8s 😇
Xmaxx is without doubt the current 1/5th scale bashing king 👍
What a video. Awesome.
Thanks, glad you liked it 👍
Is it just me or does the xmaxx look very “childlike” compared to the arrma? The xmaxx (and many other traxxas cars) have the look of a cheap kids rc car from walmart. The Arrma trucks actually look like serious rc cars that arent for kids.
true, or you could look at it like Arrma are fiats with Ferrari body and Xmaxx if Fiat body with Ferrari engine
I can get a $79 rc at Walmart and throw it 46 feet in the air and it prolly won't break because all plastic TOYS are much lighter....the heavier vehicle is experiencing greater forces than the lighter vehicle does not mean that its actually more durable.
I can promise you that if you buy a $79 rc car at walmart and throw it in the air 46 ft it will break. The point is Arrma market the Outcast 8s as i quote "OUTRAGEOUS SIZE, OUTRAGEOUS POWER, OUTRAGEOUS TOUGHNESS" "THE BIGGEST STUNT TRUCK BY FAR" "OUTLAST THE COMPETITION WITH THE ARRMA OUTCAST 8S" the last quote is clearly the biggest laugh, cause it sure didnt outlast the Xmaxx
None of the landing were bad to cause the Outcast the need to retire. In actual fact both cars hit at a terminal velocity of 14.683 m/s and the Outcast has a kenitic energy of 1185J and the Xmaxx 933.5J so not that great a difference
@@HardcoreRC so much for an unbiased review after reading this response, I've seen the xmaxx body crack in half on this skate park on a bad landing, i think it was one of your videos too ... big roll eyes, if xmaxx is so great why only 30 days warranty while arrma offers two years? last month I was at a local store and saw someone with an xmaxx what a beast, well turned out to be that both motor and esc failed after two months only, past warranty, with a 900 dollar repair, he was one unhappy customer
@@przemekgreszata2810 the Xmaxx you saw crack in half was already broken, oh and that cost a whole £23 to fix 😂😂, our review was unbiased in as much as we didn't care which care came out on top, both were put through the exact same jumps, on the exact same day, both jumped the same height and simple facts are the Outcast couldnt not handle what the Xmaxx did, check out tomorrow video as well, you will see various Xmaxx's taking a serious amount of abuse and then see what happens to the Outcast 8s on one jump.
In the UK Traxxas come with 1 year warranty, but length of warranty doesnt equate to a good or bad product, every single one of our Arrma cars the servo has died, i have had to return 6 ESC's, the Notorious for example is on its 3rd ESC after a replacement one died after just 2 runs, Hobbywing only give a 6 month warranty, but their ESC are far better than Spektrum ones that are made by Hobbywing to a lower standard and spec.
Not sure were you got a $900 repair for failed motor and esc - new the ESC is only $249 and $161 for the Motor, or buy from Jennys RC for $278 all in for both. Of course best thing he could have done was take the junk ESC out and put a Max6 in 😂😂
Simple fact is that the Outcast can not take the abuse the Xmaxx can, yes it does handle better, and if the stock shocks were not an issue then why did they upgrade them for the EXB ?
@@HardcoreRC nice prices I'm out of Canada the price was based on 500 usd to cdn plus for service came near to 900, warranty when buying from here is 30 days not one year.
@@HardcoreRC Arrma's servos aren't that great I know, although I only had to replace it once, I really don't like the spectrums
Wow yall did send it...nice videos..
Thanks for watching, had a lot of fun making this one