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8s Kraton or X-Maxx - Which RC Car should you buy?
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"get both and be done with", or for us who don't have enough money for either: get neither and don't worry about it
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I’m an Arrma Kraton guy. I got an Xmaxx in a trade and it’s has been a solid truck. I’m in no hurry to buy the 8s Kraton. On a side note all these fan boys are getting old. These are two good 8s options Pick your poison ☠️
I agree with you Kev, Metal bends and stays while plastic flexes and returns to shape, unless its bent to far
at which point it usually breaks but if not might could STILL take a heat gun to the shit and fix it lol
Xmaxx is definitely the king when it comes to bashing 👍🏻 I seriously love mine
hmmm i’m debating on if i should get the e revo or the x maxx. Since you own an x maxx is it worth the money?
@@yuhyuhcountingz217 The Xmaxx is 100% worth it
@@zachowns1023 thanks for the feedback!
@@yuhyuhcountingz217 no problem 👍🏻
Everyone says it’s brakes or it’s defected out the box????
When kevin drives an rc car it becomes a drone and goes to the MOON
In the US, the FAA would make Kev get a drone pilot license to fly that car.
I don’t have the Kraton but I prefer how the x maxx looks
I've got neither (axial weirdooo), but from Kev's vids the 8s Kraton just looks sloooow. Bent braces and plates do it no favours, although I actually prefer the way it looks, which seems lower and sleeker and suggests better handling at speed. Ultimately though, looks like you'll have to pay at least it's stock price again in upgrades to get the same performance and durability that the Xmaxx has out of the box.
Use less video.... And it make no sense
Everyone give a like
『DW』 MiDƒAiL git gud
Midfail Hacks 🤣🤣🤣
I have the 6s Kraton I’ll definitely get an xmaxx next
Part prices! X-Max winner
I always appreciate your honesty. the other reviws all say the arrma is the best thing ever while most of them bent the chassis and support bar the first run.. keep it up.
Gus's Custom Creations xmaxx for the winnnnnnn
I dunno maybe that is an issue with the 8s but I've seen the 6s version 4.0 Kraton take it and keep on kicking.
@@kingjames104 I honestly think that some are good and some are bad. Just like the diff gears on the 6s. Some come shimmed improperly. Dont get me wrong I love the Aarmas just like the rest of my RC. just had bad luck with the 6s. OR maybe I just ran it to hard i dunno. Peace brutha
Not true I got one only bent a shock
BILLY SMITH Arrma FANBOY
I finally bought an Xmaxx I love it. It’s good out of the box in my opinion. My Kraton 6s was good too but needed heavier center diff oil and the steering servo is awful.
That review was awesome, I liked everything you said about both car’s and yes, which ever one makes you smile is the best. Great vid Kev mate. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤️
I’m confused, the video is 22 minutes long it’s been out for 20? 🗿 just messing with ya lol
Or the one that makes you cry less when it crash is the best...
Respect the honesty fella. IMO the Kraton just looks baaddaass, also its a brand new platform, mechanical & electrics where as the Xmaxx is old car. I would not replace chassis with Stock if or when needed, I would replace with custom chassis on Kraton, gear it up & Boom 💪 👊 🔥 🔥 WINNER. "That being said, as long as your enjoying yourself, doesn't matter what you own , how much money you have, as long as your happy"
Great comparison on the chassis parts cost. Staggered that in the UK the Kraton weighs in at....$371 more than the $899 it's selling for here. That's unreal! Gotta be a joke about 'dem arms somewhere in there. You've convinced me to get the Xmaxx. Broke a cup on my 4S maxx at the weekend.....huge cost to replace it.......$6 for a pair!!!! The comparison you did will help people make a decision way better than just filming them side by side on the bench. Gives me food for thought for future videos. One of your best comparison ones to date. Anyone else love the format?
dude totally this guy's very entertaining! i think also he just convinced me to get an XMaxx instead of a Kraton. just looks way more fun and they have nicer bodies for them now too.
The choice is simple
Kraton
-durable diff ring gear
-great speed controller
-body shell stays on
-great on the track
X-Maxx
-it can go to the moon
I got an xmaxx and In my experience the tires, ESC, servo (plastic gears) , spur gear, stock bearings, and ring and pinion are just awful.. $700 in upgrades and it's good.
I only got my X-Maxx like 3 months ago! It still has a lot of original parts! How cant i justify getting a 8s Kraton as well??
The X-Maxx is a kite on wheels, pure bashing and jumping fun.
Yeah, you might wanna wait for the 2nd version of the Kraton (next year)👍🏿
Tbh I still say the xmaxx is the king because of the durability of it. I like that arrma is at least getting Traxxas to do more with their rc’s. But I still say the xmaxx is best
@@spike-- Improving them. Competition drives innovation.
Long live the King.. Xmaxx! Nice one Kev
I’ve had two brands of RC cars with metal chassis and have bent both brands. I’ve also had RC cars with plastic chassis and have never broken any, up until recently. But I was sending that RC like no tomorrow, and was landing on concrete.
IMO I feel like the best option, is a plastic chassis with a metal bash bar. If the plastic chassis some how finds a way to crack, the bash bar will still hold it together enough to finish your lipos.
It’s not even about brand anymore. It’s about getting the best bang for your buck.
I’ve seen 3S / 4S cars out perform 6S / 8S cars. And I’ve also seen no name off brand cars out perform all of the above.
Not everyone is bashing the same RC the same way. So it really boils down to your experience as a driver, and what your style of bashing is.
I couldn't help but notice the package of what looks like playing cards at the base of your left monitor. Lol. I can hear you winning a bet and saying, "OOOOHHH, WHA' 'APPUND?!" =D
X Maxx does it all in my opinion, and is still unrivalled. Built like a tank and actually worth the money despite the premium price tag. The Kraton 8s is just too expensive, it should be around the £800 mark. You could buy two premium Arrma Bashers and still have £100 in your pocket to spend for the price of the new Kraton.
I've tried many hobbies; Jeep, ATV, Side by side, motorcycles, competitive shooting... now I'm looing at RCs. Thinking the X-Maxx is the way to go!
Thanks for removing the Alarm! My ears are happier now. :-)
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Jack, There was a crazy loud Baaarrrpp before the COPPA warning that scared the heck out of me that is no longer there...
Oh yeah hahaha now I remember
Ps: I watch all kevs videos
HEY KEVIN GOOD REVIEW. YOU MAKE GOOD POINTS ON BOTH, BUT I THINK THE XMAXX WINS IT. I LOVE MY XMAXX. I HAVEN'T HAD ANY MAJOR ISSUES WITH IT AND IT'S JUST AN ALL AROUND TOUGH TRUCK THATS MORE FUN TO DRIVE THAN ANY THING ELSE I HAVE . I HAVE 50 YEARS IN THE RC HOBBY SO YOU CAN IMAGINE MY COLLECTION. I WAS PLAYING WITH RC CARS SINCE BEFORE ALOT OF YOU KIDS WERE BORN. THE KRATON HAS A LOWER CG SO IT DOES CORNER AND GRIP THE DIRT A LITTLE TIGHTER. BUT ONCE YOU LEARN TO CONTROL THE XMAXX YOU CAN DO MORE TRICKS WITH IT. THE XMAXX IS MY FAVORITE TRUCK IN MY COLLECTION AND PROBABLY OF ALL TIME. IT'S ALL ABOUT FUN. I HAVE FUN DRIVING ALL OF MY RC'S. BUT THE XMAXX TAKES THE FUN LEVEL OVER THE TOP FOR ME. SORRY FOR THE LONG SPEECH. TRIPLE T RC. (TTT).
WHY ARE YOU SPEAKING IN CAPS?!
I FORGOT TO TURN OFF MY CAPS LOCK TOO
From the videos i have seen so far, the X-Maxx seems to go over the terrain smoother, might be an illusion. Also might be bias from an X-Maxx owner.
Xmaxx is worth it guys!! I love mine. I bought a slightly used X-Maxx 8S, and it’s so reliable! Servo already upgraded to a 2085X, Spool in the rear diff “Locked rear axle” and I have beadlock belted badlands. The truck is just a beast! My stock shocks are pretty smooth right how they are. One thing I do want is the Pro-line shock shafts and pro-line delrin cartridges.
I love the cracking whip, perfectly timed with his finger snap!
👍👍 I've already been leaning towards an X maxx finally and This video just gave me something I hadn't thought of. Price of parts.
Steve Ryder xmaxx all day
Best content on RUclips
Definitely!!!!
@@slomango7927 Dude just let the man be,Honesly his finger snap puts a smile on my face and also hes just trying to help people get money. The only thing i dont like about the intro is that he covers that awesome monster truck clip xD but other than that his intro is just fine
@@slomango7927 ain't bull if it works ehh..
I just bought a new XMAXX. I had the K8s on pre-order but I cancelled, The main reason I did not buy the Kraton 8s is because last time I placed a pre-order for the Arrma Typhon 3s it took Arrma 6 months or longer to even have parts available for the vehicle once I had it. And I was told the Arrma is on a promo price right now of $899 but will go up to $999 after the pre-orders are shipped.
I definitely love the truggy look but for what I want to do smash across my property and smash over everything the xmaxx is for me!! They are both bad ass!! I'm definitely buying the x maxx first then I will save for the armma!! Great review & break down of everything!🤩👍🍻
Are you going to drive this Kraton into the block that the xmaxx was driven into that will show which is stronger
I was going to say that lol. I want to see that too
Kraton can't take it... it's alot heavier than xmaxxx and that will make the drops alot bad for kraton
BIGBROTHERBASH lol, god only knows what would happen to the chassis😂 Kev says the xmaxx is better and he bashes rcs more than anyone
I'll call it too... Kraton will die... Dare say the rebuild cost will run into the hundreds of pounds sterling... X-Maxx just needed a few things... mind blowing stuff hey!!
Im so glad you do a fantastic job at reviewing these RC's in the great detail that you do, you really do a fantastic job explaining the differences. Thank you
Ok I lost the fight... I'm not a fan boy of either brand, but parts are cheaper for the X-Maxx if you shop around.... Having 1/8th buggies and racing them..back in the day, I'm kinda over setting them up to handle like scalpels at 80kph...
I'm 3 days into a 8s X-Maxx ownership and can VERY much see why this car is loved so much. Mind you I've only run it on 6s... still waiting for my twin 4s 6000mah 60c lipos.
Man this thing even on stock gearing, running twin 3S 3700mah 35c Lipos out of my edf jets is a weapon!!
Thank You Kev for beating the living hell out of your X-Maxx... You have a way of selling them hey!! Hahahaa
This video alone should easily sell the X-Maxx... Just hope she's in production for many years to come!!!
I agree get them both, if you can👍🏿
When the body mount on the xmaxx pops off, it could be a design feature to keep the body intact longer
maybe, but i dont like it!
Me either
I have already owned the xmaxx but definitely gonna buy the arrma Kraton 8s. Does come with a 2 yr warranty but I will buy a mc2 chassis as the first upgrade. Then slap a 23t pinion and ready for business
yeh better chassis is a must in you wanna bash
I like the Kraton. I just adjusted the shocks so it would stand as high as possible.
I watch your videos and I see the way you jump the trucks,you beat the shit out of them and you jump them so far and so high.Most of us would never attempt to jump them like you do for fear of breaking them.I like your honest review and I wanted to buy one of these trucks and after watching your review it only makes me think x max.I have seen one reviewer bash the kraton 8S and he was honest in his review and he said the truck was not worth the money where as the 6s was.Some youtubers who get the truck for free will probably never tell you the truth because of sponsorship and fear of never getting a free or discounted product where you can afford to buy it yourself and break it,modify it etc.Keep up the great work.
After running a few battery packs through the xmaxx 8s Kraton 8s and Outcast 8s I can definitely say that the xmaxx is more forgiving when it comes to bad landings. I jump my rigs 12-15 ft off my ramps into grass and dirt. I've broken a couple of wing mounts and two sets of bolts that hold the steering knuckle to the steering links on both 8s Arrma trucks. Also the Kraton is so much heavier than the O8S that it also bends the driveshafts easily like a banana on bad landings. I'm actually going to sell the K8S for that reason alone. The Outcast is staying to play with the xmaxx.
Quickest review ever. Just buy both.👍😂
haha
Haha Matt Biggs
Looking at the facts overall as someone new to RC for me the X Maxx is the one I would choose parts prices is one reason and reliability is another one and I prefer the X Maxx shape but that’s my limited opinion
Thank you for addressing the chassis.
The One That Brings the Biggest Smile Is the Right One 👍👍👍 Im new to the RC world and Im glad I found your Channel .. Thanks for sharing 😁😁😁
My wife says to get the Xmaxx, therefore I shall buy the Xmaxx
Great video!
It's not just the cost of parts but also the availability.
I made the mistake of getting a yeti XL. It's a great truck and I love it but now parts in Australia are almost non existent as it's a discontinued model.
I don't want it to become a shelf queen but I am scared about breaking it now.
My slash 4x4 on the other hand parts are a dime a dozen and can be found everywhere.
did the exact same as you, its so strong only broke my servo arm in 4 years of having it, its sat on my shelf for a year and only just pulled it out yesterday... i hit a little jump n got scared lol...
Heck ya just get both, thats what I did! LOL picking my 8s Kraton this weekend
STEVO D 313 I prefer two Xmaxxes 😂😂😂
Wish I was that rich😞😂
You just have to put the same center diff oil in the Arrma as the Traxxas and it will wheelie and be just as crazy as the Xmaxx 👍 I got a Kraton 6s as my first truck and LOVE it!
Cant compare 6s kraton and 8s
Props to Ian
I broke a cup on my 6S outcast 3 minutes into my last bash session with it. Landed relatively hard on a left or right (can't recall which) rear arm. Also bent the hinge pin and destroyed both hinge pin retainers. First one in the year and 4 months I've had it. My biggest issue with the 6S line of arrma's are the diff ring/pinion. The input pinion is just too stinking small (too many revolutions per revolution of the ring gear) and teeth are too shallow for what's asked of them. I'm on my 5th or 6th diff. Hope the 8S stuff holds up better for those that have the truck.
Have you tried shimming your ring and pinion gear?
@@jmurr357 Always. Every single diff has been dismantled, cleaned, shimmed internally when dry for best mesh, filled up to the top of the x bars with oil, then shimmed the ring and pinion as close as possible without binding, then grease applied to the ring/pinion. Used to use typical axle grease, but this last diff got some lucas red-n-tacky instead as it seems to adhere better and doesn't just get a path cut through it.
Emaxx or Rustler VXL gang.
If you own one tell me the mods. My rustler runs all rpm a arms, shock towers, steel drive shafts, 6s setup, proline trenchers LP, proline sand paws, and a battery tray expansion kit.
Emaxx has 8 new shocks, erevo 2.0 tires, steel rollcage, rpm bulkheads, steel traxxas driveshafts, and will have a Hobbywing Max8 motor and esc soon.
Still the x max looking at getting one for x ma's they look amazing epic vids
XMAXX is the best
@ 0:47 🤣🤣🤣 an XMAXX killer they say... just makes the XMAXX look more appealing tbh. How does that saying go? "Often imitated never duplicated"
Very interesting this comparaison between price parts, between this 2 rc car! thank you Kevin!
Your review was very fair and balanced. You took into consideration your 4 years of living with the X-Maxx when comparing the two cars. Well done!
I think that if Arrma comes out with an 8s MT, to compete with the X-Maxx, they'll have to build it on plastic chassis.
X-MAX It bent so I bashed it some more and it fixed itself LOOL
I think the same way, for jumping lighter trucky is better (x-maxx), but racing a little weight is better to hold the chassis down. Kevin great video you have all the times, I like it all. I just wish one day I can jump like you guy, high to the sky.😉
Xmaxx is still KING!! 👑 I think a trip to the moon with the kraton would result in structural failure on re-entry 💥
I absolutely love your channel Kevin! In fact I love it so much I gotta come meet you one day 🙏🏻
I'm more of a monster truck lover so I have TWO XMAXX 8S trucks ✌️👍😂
Just get both ! I was thinking that too , you can’t limit yourself. You can always switch the electronics inside !! My maxx has a mamba X 1/8 with 2200kv motor and my Xmaxx has a hobby wing max6 with stock motor. Now I want to try Arrma !! I’m a basher !!
I got the xmaxx after wanting one for years. I would probably get a Kraton if it was cheap enough.
Hey Kev, have you ever tried the belt drive for the xmaxx. I was curious on durability and what not.
Thank you the name, don’t mater. It’s what you get your moneys worth. What last and what works. We like to jump, race, bash around. So what works best for that. Even speed runs to come into play and the Xmaxx to as of now still. And my outcast 4s
My drone spends less time in the air!
Great video. Love you long time!
This review Kevin was realy GOOD. As a former arrma user, i know the parts are real costy, spec chassi,diffs..the chassi is the same as a 6s line ( read bending instant )
Good one 👊
Love this video Bud..love your channel..I have a xmaxx and agree with you it's still the king of Basher
Hi Kevin. We finaly scored a used xmaxx Green one came with 2x 4s 6750 gens. light kit, extra spur, that bluetooth thingy in the transmitter, a busted lower suspension arm for ehm 805Gbp ish.
if we bought it new with the extra items it would cost me 1356Gbp ish in my local market. ITS AMAZING! we jumped at full speed crashed into tree only a suspension arm broken.
already ordered Max 6. were gonna mount an AK Airsoft rifle and a 4 camera FPV system on it...... thanks for all the tips and guides on it. love from just4fun
I have a lot more clarity choosing on what to get between the 2 monstrous vehicles. Thank you for the review!
thanks kevin for the advice
Yoooo! Lol! Your voice reminds me of the mandarins voice from iron man. Awesome 👏🏾 video bro. I just bought the xmaxx a few days ago and absolutely love it. Went ahead and upgraded a few needed areas for reliability and performance. I was going to buy a keystone today just to have another dynamic. But, this video convinced me it’s not worth it. The XMaXX is supreme in my opinion. Especially if you aren’t tracking your truck/truggy on the regular. Thanks
I’m was a traxxas guy having the hoss vxl and the slash 4x4, then got an arrma felony 6s and liked the build. Was going to look at an outcast but now I’m looking at the Xmaxx
No wonder you have gained 15 thousand subs in less than a month kev great footage and info
Xmaxx definitely the winner 🏆 👍👍
So Xmaxx rules 👍...thanks Kev for this comparo 🤘🤘🤘
I have not had either of them, but the xmaxx seems a little more towards my taste, but what do i know? The only real "monster truck" (although i would personally more consider it a truggy) is the redcat volcano i got for Christmas in 2017.
X-maxx to the Maxx😁
Get the x-maxx it is more durable and can be configured to run multiple types of courses were the Kraton cannot.
If you can gear up the 1/5 kraton won’t it be easier to bend the Chasity? They should of just want plastic being that long and heavier
That Bending wasn't because of the gearing, it was cause of jumps. You can jump with a 13 teeth as well as with 17 teeth ^^
ParRagon - what I said is what I said about it going much faster. Make it much easier to bend. More speed with the weight, boom. If can bend already with this light use, it’s definitely not 900 is all I can say. XMAXX
@@ThatsToughTV yeah but like I said u can bend the chassis with that jump that Talbot made with low gearing or high gearing ^^
Kev, get a 1/16 Slash. you've gotta see it. the motor is the Titan 12 turn 550 can size brushed (with Velineon 370 brushless option). also try the LaTrax Teton. you WILL break the servo though.
I mainly stick with Arrma stuff, but for this case, I'd pick the X-Maxx.
Kev, I have to agree with you on everything you've stated about the X Max and kraton 8s. I almost feel like the kraton 8s isn't in the same category as the x-max, . Definitely more like a truggy.
Kevin what part do break/replace the most on a xmaxx
bought my 1st arrma the other day, wanted to try something other than traxxas. the battery retention system is awful. the power is weak, no wheelies at all. but the arrmas look cooler.
I prefer the arrma waiting on rpm, voltage hobbies, just bash it rc or hr to jump all over this truck with upgrades
I want xmaxx due to reliability, kraton for looks. I got maxx already, dont know which one should be next
I'm keen to see if Traxxas bring out a new rc like the xmaxx or just bring out a new upgraded version of the 8s Xmaxx(maybe 12s🤷♂️🤞).
No company will be coming out with a 12s anytime.
@@thatmarred_mustang maybe ,maybe not as I'm sure you can now buy the raminator as a roller and they have an electric kit for it which is capable of 12s im pretty sure. Regardless somebody gonna release an rc with 12s sooner or later and when they do you know it's going to be EPPIC.👍👍
Arrma is a good brand but. The Kraton 8s is their worst vehicle. Great review Kevin!!!
I absolutely loved my xmaxx. The esc set on fire one day in the house near my wife and 5 year old while calibrating the steering. now i dont own an xmaxx. 😟
@Dave Iauco yeah, I pulled the battery leads straight away so it was short. It wasn't a huge issue for me other than disappointment with traxxas, stinking the house out for a week and having to buy a new esc even though it was only a few week old and traxxas didn't want to know. It didn't go down well at all with my wife and son though. Other than that and a few bearings and bodys that xmaxx was bombproof, a blast to drive at my local mtb park.
As a NON Arrma or Traxxas Fanboy. (Love them both...Thank You for the epic cars we can choose from guys!!!) I own lots of very old school 1/8th buggies.. Look up the Thunder Tiger Silver Fox Gold Edition !!AAAnnd, the 1993 GV Warrior 1/8th .21 buggy.. Epic race car.. till the parts ran out.. metal gears/diffs/driveshafts, bearings everywhere, twin disc brakes... Tuned pipe.. mated with the O.S RX.B .21... absolute weapon... to this day!!.. she holds her own with other nitros... Though I keep her at 15% nitro nowadays....
God I hate waffling... Always seem to do it on Kevin's Videos... Want V's need... I love the WLToys 12428.. and especially the 144001... amazingly capable cars..... but... XMaxx.... Not that the 8s Kraton is a bad car... the Xmaxx just.... does... everything..... please...???
Sorry guys... Just practicing the begging I'll need to do with the missus to be able to buy another RC car... Would love the Arrma Typhon V4 6s and the 8s XMaxx... gotta run it by the Chief Financial Officer... of she'll kill me....
lol... says the guy with a 1580mm Twin engined MiG-29 OVT on the dining table.... ha... ha... sigh... yep... she'll kill me....
haha you waffle away! yeh 1/8 nitro buggies are a blast i must get one again
@@KevinTalbotTV I was only practicing the begging I need to do to be able to purchase an Xmaxx... relationship hardships brother hahahaha... (*Cough* Cough*... single life is easier though....)
Keep up the good work brother...
Thanks for the information about the trucks iam getting the Xmaxx
Good video Kev. Feels like you put a lot into making this as unbiased as possible. Pretty fair and straightforward comparison in my opinion, although I'm sure everyone wont see it that way lol
PS, great clip Kev! Thanks for a all the constant hard work you put in. Very entertaining channel.
Easy : buy BOTH 😂. Why choose? Hehehe. Thanks for the video. On a smaller scale, I have the Kraton 6s and Outcast 6s and prefer the Outcast for the "tricks" when I'm off road. When I want to go fast on the pavement, then I go for a Kraton. So you need both 👍
X-Maxx ,all the way!😍
Took a friend over to our local rc shop the other day and they brought out both of them, he went for the Kraton 8s because it looked more expensive
Just from what I've seen the Xmaxx for me.
Can't wait till I get my XMAXX. I won't treat it like that, but I will have fun with it in the snow.
I've literally just decided on which one I'm getting first. Wow. That shit is resilient AF!