Evidence that Noah's Flood Formed the Fossil Record - Dr. Kurt Wise (The Paleontology of the Flood)
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- Опубликовано: 9 окт 2017
- The fossil record can be difficult to understand. It is, however, an extremely important witness to the results of the global flood and its aftermath in the post-flood period. During the 2017 IGH Conference, Dr. Kurt Wise explored the impact of the Flood on the earth in a series of three in-depth lectures. This lecture on the “study of fossils,” the second in the series, provides a fascinating look at the nature of the fossil record. Paleontology is actually Kurt’s specialty, having received his PhD from Harvard while studying under evolutionary paleontologist Steven J. Gould. Needless to say, Kurt understands paleontology extremely well from both perspectives.
This lecture is from our 2017 'Is Genesis History?' conference. We invited a number of scientists and scholars to teach in-depth on the Creation/Flood model. You can buy, download and watch over 70 more lectures like this at:
👉isgenesishistory.com/conference/
If you’ve not seen the documentary yet, here are ways to watch Is Genesis History featuring Kurt Wise and 12 other scientists and scholars: isgenesishistory.com/
Specific topics of “Paleontology of the Flood” include:
2:40 - Biostratigraphic Column
10:00 - Nature of Fossilization
19:45 - Footprints/Trackways
25:00 - Disparity vs. Diversity
29:00 - Organismal Change: Stasis and Abrupt Appearance
32:30 - Testing Evolutionary Claims
40:00 - Floating Forest Theory
50:00 - Explanation of Coal Layers
1:07:00 - Overview of Model
The thing he said about floating forest is logical. My grandparents used to lived in the deep jungle of Borneo Island where they told us story about land thats waving when you walk on it. Then they realized its actually a big lake underneath the ground. Sadly the forest is gone now because of oil palm plantation. The lake is also dried.
Floatong forrests across oceans with strong or moderate waves? The thing with floating mats of living vegetation is that they are always in stagnate water where gssses like methane can build up and help contribute to the buoyancy of the structure, that just cant happen over an open ocean where perturbations from wind, waves, storms, and the scale of the water column that gas would have to tracel between would destabalise such a struture within days.
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I doubt your methane assumption to be true - and for SURE no one is talking about vegetation bridges - they are talking about vegetation MATS - that can be several acres in size that raft across large bodies of water - which are OBSERVABLE today.
"Floatong forrests across oceans with strong or moderate waves? "
They need NOT bridge oceans to carry wildlife. MOST intercontinental wildlife dispersion was via landbridges.
"The thing with floating mats of living vegetation is that they are always in stagnate water "
OBSERVABLY not so.
"where gssses like methane can build up and help contribute to the buoyancy of the structure,"
WHY is that necessary or even an issue? WOOD floats without methane.
"that just cant happen over an open ocean where perturbations from wind, waves, storms, and the scale of the water column that gas would have to tracel between would destabalise such a struture within days."
YOU create several compounding strawman arguments -
1) that methane is necessary
2) that vegetation needed to form bridges and not rafts
3)The scale of the water column need not be considered as vegetation mats are NOT a deep sea phenomena.
NONE are required to RAFT species from ONE place to another.
@@paulrobinson9318 a strawman is when one makes an aesthetically similar fundimentally different argument and attack that one instead of the original argument. I never said anything about a bridge of any kind. I wasnt talking about carrying wildlife, i was talking about known floating forrests menationed by op, and explaining how they are not similar to wise's cracks.
@@nunyabisnass1141
You simply did not specify WHAT you were referring to but your INFERENCE was that you were arguing against vegetation bridges crossing deep and turbulent waters assuredly to allow animals to habitate other continents.
Sry if I assumed more that you intended but you certainly were not explicit.
I bet that jungle isn't in salt water.
Its sad to see so many people automatically being shut down by so many other people that don't even give the theory a chance. I don't even see many people actually arguing with formulated ideas or sentences, they just rudely and sarcastically reject everything these people have to say when they are actually explaining themselves in a clear way. But instead of being opposed in a clear way by people who disagree, I keep seeing blatant disrespect. People saying creationists are on drugs, crazy, unscientific, and not even giving a second thought.
They don't need to agree with creationists, Christianity, or even all these plausible theories. But that doesn't mean they should be behaving in this way.
I’m from eastern Russia, my father and grandfather, older brother were all coal miners... this man isn’t lying about coal..
I appreciate hearing you. Thanks, God bless
OhkI Ben I
are you Orthodox? Orthodoxy is the True Church :)
@@ThomasG_Nikolaj I couldn’t agree more
@@chad9990 you're a based Chad of a man God bless sir
I live in the middle of a HUGE fossilized oyster bed. My little back yard (about 15 ft. × 15 ft) has produced HUNDREDS of fossils. Many perfect and some paper thin, also in perfect condition. I have also found about four or five fan type oyster shells not fossilized in the same strata. The real amazing thing is my backyard is actually at a high point and there's a severe drop-off leading to a creek down below. I wish I wasn't handicapped, I would already be down in that creek bed!
I have frequently gone to road cuts and dug for fossils with my kids here in Texas. In two different layers probably 5 to 6 feet in depth we have regularly found fossils of the same species of sea urchin and sea biscuits.
@@joeholloway3773 I thought Seabiscuit was a horse.
@@joeholloway3773 great one on hwy 69 outside of Tyler
@@mannymistakesin8353 I'll have to come check it out.
Where is this? And how far above (the current) Sea level are you? And how far from the nearest ocean? This is FASCINATING! I can't believe there are no Christian Archaeology students, Professors, paleontology buffs who wouldn't jump at the chance to get down the climb one foot or layer at a time to "read" the whole story pleading to be read!
I grew up in West Virginia and my father allowed a piece of property we owned to be strip mined. As you described, it was very flat on the top and bottom of the vein, the vein was about 6 feet thick with soap stone below and clay above. I spent hours as a teen cracking open lumps of coal to see leaves and fern fossils. the lowermost part of the coal seemed to have the most intact material. Of course I was looking for a dinosaur bone but never found that prize.
Probably your dad is also your grandad
@Brody Massey
Paleontologist!
Hey Boom Dawg, I am a fossil hunter. Fossils found include fish, birds, more mammals than I can list quickly and dino's. Contact me and I'll take plus you can keep whatever you find.
Coal is 320 million years old. Dinosaurs are maximum 252 million years old. It would have helped if you had looked for dinosaurs in a dinosaur layer and not from the time when plants ruled the world.
@@mariocassina90 probably you need an education.
Very interesting. It seems like most of the creation stuff I see is nowhere near this detailed, but they mostly deal in the big picture, so I really appreciate the theories going over this level of detail.
Theories, easy to say but present some credible evidence.
animus apertus, you wrote, "Theories, easy to say but present some credible evidence."
Did you catch the part about the coal seam benches?
ruclips.net/video/xCdt6LjvFvA/видео.htmlm56s
Those benches appear to be impossible with the evolution model. Of course, so are polystrates, and especially those which span multiple coal seams and benches.
Dan
@@ozowen5961 Yes Epigenetic Regulation.
ozowen, you wrote, "Polystrates are not impossible under the "evolution" model. Not sure why you called a geological phenomenon and evolution model. We learned about polystrates in school in the 70's so I am always puzzled as to why creationists think they are some sort of secret 'gotcha'."
Perhaps you will explain how they were formed.
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ozowen, you wrote, "Why do you think coal seam benches are impossible? I can't see why you think it is somehow impossible under the standard geological model."
Perhaps you will explain how they were formed.
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ozowen, you wrote, "Geologists have no issue with it at all."
Geologists have plenty of issues with them. Evolutionists, on the other hand, pretend to have "no issue at all with them," but they cannot scientifically explain them.
They only assume they fit the evolutionism model.
Dan
kennyw
And your credible evidence for evolution is? You can't name one animal that changed into another. You can't name one legitimate transitional. Bring it.
What did humans evolve from again? Lucy? Bring it
Arenchymous tissue is always associated with waterlogged plants, and often with marine submerged trees, like the mangroves. This theory is plausible and well presented.
What is arench....?
Thank you for all research and hard work.
Luke 19:40 But He answered and said to them, “I tell you that if these should keep silent,the stones would immediately cry out.”
@@JB-yb4wn just cause it don’t make sense to you doesn’t mean it don’t make sense to us
Danny that was a good one!
@@rastawamebry8533 Your grammar is atrocious.
@@rastawamebry8533 - Just because it makes sense to you doesn't mean that it actually makes sense
@@JB-yb4wn there is no drug that makes you smart so you're screwed
This guy spends 30 minutes preparing you for what he is really excited share. Well done
Trouble is, it's all nonsense.
@@ozowen Your comment is nonsense and not backed by anything. Try again.
@@Flagrum3
Your comment was not backed by anything. It was nonsense.
Facts:
There was no global flood. This is not in dispute. Every marker required for such an event is missing. Worse yet, there is a plethora of evidence for all sorts of events that did happen that rule out a global flood.
7 civilisations completely failed to get wet.
The rise of civilisations after the supposed flood and their dispersal mean that the flood cannot have happened. The birth rate, maturation rate of individuals and dispersal cannot match the flood timing.
But those are easy ones.
The presence of aerial layers in a consistent pattern, including globally mean- no flood.
The fossil order- trait appearances in the fossil record- and there is a fossil record and it is robust and it is used predictively, mean no flood.
The presence of any dry formation is simply impossible in the supposed flood scenario. But there they are. There are many layers, for example, that can only form after they have dried out. But that cannot happen if they are under what creationists claim were sediments laid down in the flood.
Varves are a biennial laminae that cannot remain stable, being as they are, thin laminae (thin strata) laid down as glaciers go through summer and winter cycles. Creationists like to claim they can be laid down in storms too. Fair enough- but they cannot remain intact when hit with turbulent, roiling flood waters impacted by those nearby mountain ranges being formed- so- no flood.
So this is the equivalent of calling the video: The Palaeontology of the Middle Earth
@Atheist Deprogramming
No there was no global flood.
Aerial layers like the iridium anomaly laid down after the dust cloud encapsulated the entire planet (causing the demise of the dinosaurs), or volcanic dust layers. None of these can be anything but dispersed in a flood. The chances of a distinct layer are exactly zero.
"I suspect you're talking about layers like the Coconino sandstone"
Nope. There are layers globally caused by things like river mouths drying out. They can only be formed where the river mouth dries leaving a very particular shape and type of layer. They are everywhere on the globe and they are impossible in the flood.
"The layers you're talking about may be post-flood or they may be during the flood and simply misidentified as being from glacial activity."
Nope, they are biennial layers. There is sometimes extra formation in storms, those are distinct. They are certainly not misidentified. They are always adjacent to glacial formations- which are themselves distinct. There is no evidence for your claims- you are now obviously working backwards from your conclusion to force evidence.
"It is all-too-common for evolutionists to misidentify strata, be proven wrong, yet the myth be propagated."
This is nonsense. What you mean is that scientists do not comply to creationist assertions. (ie: non scientific assertions)
"The flood is obvious and one day you will meet the Lord."
No, the flood is not obvious. It is exactly not obvious. The evidence is non existent for it and the evidence against it is plentiful. I will insist on evidence, not preconception forcing the evidence to be shoe horned into a nonsense claim.
"When the torture starts, it never ends."
Do you have any idea how appalling that is both as a theological statement as it is a conversational argument? It's not a valid assertion and it is pretty disgusting.
Are claiming God is like a violent husband? That He will torture non compliance and that love looks like pain inflicted for poor decisions and non compliance and even for "correction"?
That's a dreadful theology.
This excellent video series provides unbiased scientific evidences for a global flood, such as:
1. Transcontinental megasequence rock layering
2. Megasequences contain graduated sediments (larger to smaller particles, bottom to top)
3 Laminate layers (very little bioturbation)
4. Little or no erosion between layers, denoting rapid layering.
5. Consistent east-to-west currents (denoting the moon holding the flood water while the earth revolves under it)
6. Sand transported across continents.
7. Rock layers folded, not fractured, denoting soft, pliable rock layering when plate tectonics began to divide the continents.
8. High and dry sea creatures (even in the Himalayan plateau)
9. Fossil graveyards everywhere (even though fossilization is a complicated, rare occurrence under normal circumstances).
Dan
777THUTH777, you wrote, "1. The flood is global so the bed should be all around the planet."
The flood didn't happen instantly, dummy.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "2. What mega sequences of graduated sediments? We find distinct layers of different kinds of rock"
The layers in each megasequence are graduated from the largest particles at the bottom, to the smallest at the top. Each megasequence is capped by micritic carbonate, formed by billions of bacteria.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "3. No, different aged sediments"
Gibberish.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "4. You don't need erosion to lay down rock layers."
Huh? LOL! More gibberish. Each layer has little or no erosion, and little or no bioturbation, denoting rapid deposition of one layer on top of the other. Otherwise, there would be evidence of erosion, and the destruction of the lamination.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "5. ''the moon holding the water'' Tides don't make distinct layers or sort fossils LOL"
Are you really that stupid?
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "6. The sand was deposited by the wind, and only across continents not world wide."
I guess you really are that stupid.
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "7. Folding of rock happens deep in the earth under heat and pressure and the rock was never soft."
Dumber than dirt! LOL!
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "8. Plate tectonics raised an ancient sea bed to make a layer of limestone on Mt. Everest. If a flood dun-it there would be shells on the top of every mountain and there isn't."
Where did you get your "geology" training, Marvel Comics?
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777THUTH777, you wrote, "9. Not all sedimentary rock is laid down by water, some fossils are found in wind deposited layers."
Baloney.
Dan
Erosion occurs at the top of the Precambrian (the "Great Unconformity") and at the top of the megasequences, but not between the individual layering. The lack of erosion and bioturbation indicates rapid layering.
The "Great Uniformity" is a widespread geological feature:
_"The Great Unconformity is well exposed in the Grand Canyon, but this geomorphic surface, which records the erosion and weathering of continental crust followed by sediment accumulation, can be traced across Laurentia and globally, including Gondwana, Baltica, Avalonia and Siberia, making it the most widely recognized and distinctive stratigraphic surface in the rock record." [Peters & Gaines, "Formation of the 'Great Unconformity’ as a trigger for the Cambrian explosion." Nature, 2012, 19 April, Vol 484, p.363]_
Dan
Evolutionism is a myth, based on magic! Don't ever forget that, no matter how much they try to brainwash you!
The Precambrian Layers were formed between 6,000 to 7,500 years ago when the Lord God created the earth; and it was covered first by the Cambrian Layer (which contained the Cambrian Explosion of fully-developed animals), by the world-wide flood, as written in the Holy Bible.
777THUTH777, I suspect you are too far gone, but God only knows. We will pray from your delivery from that hateful cult that has chained you.
Dan
There may be falsehood, but we must speak the truth in love, brother, and by God's grace remember to "Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse them... Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honourable in the sight of all." (Romans 12:12, 17) God bless you both, and I pray you would always be rejoicing more deeply in Christ or come to know his grace for the first time. Love and peace
@@cjson God Bless you to, I have to learn not to let anger get the better of me, the reason is I remember the exact point I lost my Faith as a child in 1981 because of the vestigial tail bone lie, I was just a ten year old it excited my mind of swinging around with my tail, it was all down hill from there, i am angry because I never would have got into Drugs and Alcohol the way I did I am off the drugs now, But I suppose it was a good thing if it never happened I wouldn't be trolling around the internet destroying evolutionist faith in evolution the way I am, I am still really angry though my life would have been a lot better without the poison of evolution infecting my mind.
*Hitler polpot Marx Stalin and Evolutionary thinking*
Hitler used the German Word for Evolution 150 times in his Book mein kampf, He used Evolution to Justify the Vile Evil he did to the Jews, because if we Believe in a Creator who Created us in his Image and Likeness All Humans have Value no matter what Color shape or Size we are, he used evolution to show that some humans are Superior and that others aren't, that some people are higher on the evolutionary tree and others are lower on the Tree of life, Stalin, Mao, Polpot all the same, When Polpot was introduced to Darwins book that is when he developed his ideas of Urban Struggle then Murdered hundreds of thousands, Stalin was in a Christian School when he was introduced to Darwins Evolutionary ideas, he developed his ideas on CRITICAL THINKING after this, then went on to kill 10's of millions of people, Mao same thing, he read Darwins book then went on to murder 60 million people, Carl Marx same thing, Karl Marx even wrote a letter to Darwin saying how wonderful he was and how much he admired him. Evolution has been responsible for taking away the idea that All Human beings have intrinsic value no matter color size or shape, Evolutionary ideas take away Moralistic values and the sense of right and wrong, because if you're just an Animal that climbed out of the slime and evolved via naturalistic processes and that its all about survival of the fittest, than there is no Right or wrong, its all about survival of the Superior ones that out compete the Weaker less worthy ones, that which is right for you may not be right for somebody else, if I feel like murdering you than that is right for me because I am superior to you, and if I eliminate you I am simply helping the Human race to become stronger by getting rid of the genetically inferior out of the Gene Pool.
this is the ultimate conclusion to evolutionary thinking, Evolution is pure evil straight from Satans mind to destroy Gods Creation, and lead us into hell. Teach people they're nothing but animals don't be surprised when they act like Animals.
*Religion starts wars*
"An interesting source of truth on the matter is Philip and Axelrod's three-volume incyclopedia of wars, which chronicles some 1763 wars that have been waged over the course of human history. Of those wars, the Authors categorize 123 as being religious in Nature, which is an astonishingly low 6.93% of all wars. However, when one subtracts out those waged in the name of Islam, (66) the percentage is cut by more than half to 3.23% "
A large portion of the wars Christian's are and were involved in were defensive not aggressive". The vast majority of wars Muslims are and were involved in, Were and are Aggressive in nature not defensive.
The cause of the vast majority of war death and suffering is, Non-religious people who think they're superior to everybody else around them who think they're more highly evolved
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ATHEISTIC COMMUNISM! Is responsible for hundreds of millions of people going to an early grave.
Thats 1763 Wars waged across human history, 123 are classed as being Religious, You Atheist Evolutionists belong to a dangerous Murderous cult called Atheism, How many people in Prison do you reckon are Religious Christians, more than 90% of violent criminals are, YES YOU GUESSED IT!! Atheists,, how many people in the violent street crime gangs are Devout religious Christians, You Atheists need to wake up, Teach people they're nothing but animals don't be surprised when they act like animals.
It is amazing to me that it is not easier to believe there is a God who created the heavens and the earth and all the things created in the earth. People have to go through serious hoops to make the theory of evolution work. Thank you for your presentation. God bless 💛
Evolution is a theory it already works.
Theories are not guesses in science
Cynthia. Hi "Serious hoops? " You mean like - an education?
@@alanthompson8515
Don't use confusing words like _education_ when addressing _creationists._ To them _education_ only means reading their _holy book._ Oddly they don't actually do that. As *_Mark Twain_* said, _The best cure for Christianity is reading the Bible._
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 so accepted dogma from textbooks and evolutionists are the way to go? Yeah ok buddy
2 Corinthians4:3,4 may answer your question Cynthia.
The state stone of Michigan is the Petoskey Stone, 43 north and above. It is a fossilized coral.
Thats because their was a huge inland see their millions of years ago ,later in the ice age it froze , the world began to warm again , and the ice which held back that inland sea broke it spilled into the Atlantic sea levels rose and their was a huge flood which created the mediterrean sea , and also the united kingdom got cut off from mainland Europe .. what noah was referring to was this flood , it happened before his time he was recounting a story from then a full 8,000 years or so prior to Christ being born
@@bonysminiatures3123 Noah wasn't referring to a flood before his time because he wasn't the one that told the story to begin with. He was just the main character that survived the flood in the story which was written by Moses. Now if u want to argue that Moses retold the Sumerian flood story then that's a whole 'nother argument. But it wasn't Noah referring to a flood before his time
@@bonysminiatures3123mediterranean sea was filled millions of years ago.. no humans where around then...
It would be great if you could show us fossils of humans who died in Noah's flood.
My thoughts exactly. There should be mass graves piled or stacked up similarly to the midwestern dinosaurs located in North America.
I've heard it explained that humans (being most intelligent) would keep moving to higher ground during the flood so a lot were probably not buried in a way that they could be fossilized , perhaps alot decomposed.
He can't humans weren't around 185-66 million years ago
Matt Smith lack of human fossils is actually a much bigger problem for evolution, it makes sense for the creation model. There may have been several million people at the time, who were smart enough to move to high ground. Their bodies likely floated away and were scavenged
@@fzr1000981that’s not a good enough explanation. All living animals would float if they drown.
In my youth (a very long time ago) I had a passion for Geology and Paleontology.
I was fasinated with your simplified geo time chart. In my non Christian mind back then, you've just covered in a few inches 4.5 billion years.
I remember collecting fossils in the middle of a London woodland.
I charted the area and found amazing shells, shark & ray teeth. Bones from turtles and crocks. They didn't even look fossilized.
In fact I still have a lot of this collection found in London Beds.
I also enjoyed a place called Lyme Regis. Sedimentary rocks of different kinds going down thousands of feet. These plains follow patterns i.e. land animals then sea creatures, then land, sea, land sea etc. And in each bedding plain you'll find completely different species.
The coal tips were a great place to collect plant fossils. Mines hundreds of feet deep with tropical palms trees turned into carbon rocks. Fascinating.
Today I am wiser. I certainly don't believe in evolution. I was anti Darwin in college.
In the field, I saw no evidence of evolution.
What I did see though is vast periods of time.
Its one area I have problems with scriptually. Our Lord is everlasting. Time is not an issue for our Lord whom has no beginning or end.
Humans have a tendency to fragment time. One day well understand what "forever" means.
You are also anti science.
Why do you see deep time in the fossil record? Much of it is stunningly well preserved, you could say flash preserved, and tissue residuals have been found inside bones. Vast imaginary eons is only somewhat supported by radio dating of rocks, but the core assumptions can't possibly be verified
While listening to Dr. Kurt’s presentation with my Bose headphones, I can only hear Brett Baier’s voice from FOX News speak of fossilized species and such and it’s messing with me because this subject is not his wheelhouse. ThankYou, for sharing this information here on RUclips. Regarding dinosaur bones and fossils, have mass human boneyards been discovered similar to the dinosaur boneyard discovered out west in North America?
No human fossils from pre flood. We wouldn't expect them either because they would go to high ground and remain at the surface of the ocean for some time, avoiding burial, even after death when that would be eaten by other creatures, or if buried at all, the sediments would be eroded and deposited in the bottoms of the oceans after the flood. One way or the other, we wouldn't expect to find any
I have several rocks in the f;ower bed in my front yard that are embedded with tiny sea shells ,I found these rocks at about 3000 feet above sea level on the top of the mountain beside my house.they was embedded in a red stone outcrop of rock on the tip of a mountain ridge when you look at the rock cliff ,you can tell at one time it was layers of mud .its only about 70 feet below the crest of the mountain top ,but I have found rocks laying right on the top of the ground that have seashells in them.
Let us know when you find a single modern species (in situ) in that red stone, alright bubs?
My dad went to Central Australia years ago and found a mud encrusted seashell while gold digging, which I begged to have.
He gave it to me and I said "here is proof of a global flood-what is a large seashell,encrusted in dried mud,doing in the middle of a dry continent as big as Australia?"
He was gobsmacked, he was a Militant Communist. It took the wind out of his sails, as he had persecuted me terribly, since I had told him I believed in God at 27yo. He was never the same, as he had found it, and not even realised its significance.
He saw it with his own eyes and had just realised that maybe,he had been wrong!
He stopped talking about Communistic Atheism after that...
Please explain why there are no rabbit fossils to be found in the Cambrian.
Please explain why dinosaur fossils are below the KT boundary.
Please explain why no modern creatures are to be found in the Burgess shale.
I was thinking the same thing.
@@cskinner0129
What an intelligent fellow you are, and handsome too, Ill warrant. HaHaHaHa.
@@patrickkelly7612 I was thinking the same thing.
The Egyptian priest said: "Solon, the memorials which your own and other nations have once had of the famous actions of mankind perish in the waters at certain periods; and the rude survivors in the mountains begin again, knowing nothing of the world before the flood. But in Egypt the traditions of our own and other lands are by us registered for ever in our temples. The genealogies which you have recited to us out of your own annals, Solon, are a mere children's story. For in the first place, you remember one deluge only, and there were many of them, and you know nothing of that fairest and noblest race of which you are a seed or remnant. The memory of them was lost, because there was no written voice among you." -Plato, Timaeus
and you know nothing of that fairest and noblest race of which you are a seed or remnant. The memory of them was lost, because there was no written voice among you. For in the times before the great flood Athens was the greatest and best of cities and did the noblest deeds and had the best constitution of any under the face of heaven. Solon marvelled, and desired to be informed of the particulars. 'You are welcome to hear them,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and for that of the city, and above all for the sake of the Goddess who is the common foundress of both our cities. Nine thousand years have elapsed since she founded yours, and eight thousand since she founded ours, as our annals record.
Quote mine Plato, much...
Kurt Wise was raised in a fundamentalist Baptist family in rural Illinois and accepted flood geology as a teenager while attending a conference for Christian youth run by Bob Jones University.
You left out Harvard University. Any particular reason? Like, do you have an agenda to try to falsely represent someone's academic record by omitting their most relevant academic accomplishment?
Your attempt at fraud actually fits in quite well with the epidemic of fraud in science over the last several decades. According to the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences (one of the most prestigious science journals in the world), fraud being committed by modern scientists over the last several decades has not just DOUBLED (although that alone would be extremely disturbing)! Nor has science fraud only TRIPLED, nor even QUADRUPLED!
The level of fraud being committed by scientists today has skyrocketed by OVER ONE-THOUSAND PERCENT!
Bildad1976
Maybe it has something to do with creatards who get legitimate degrees and then try to justify their ridiculous religious beliefs.🤔
Rami Gilneas more accurately it's indoctrinated morons like you who ignore ubiquitous evidence of recent, flash preservation of billions of dead creatures, with more tissue residuals in bone found all time, that cannot be "millions of years" old. Not just unlikely, impossible. True science (not your dogma) is not static. The amazing irony is YOU are the religious zealot, but your faith in "experts" who weren't there and don't have the slightest clue ends in your demise. Life is short
So a flood event that was violent enough to deposit large masses of vegetation, animals and sediments simultaneously, was also gentle enough to preserve footprints? Nah you have to explain that instead of simply asserting it quickly and moving on.
You have to show how a violent event can preserve delicate details both above and below those details before you can expect anyone to buy your hypothesis.
Explain how the foot prints got preserved then so we can "buy" your hypothesis.
@@Real_Genuflekt depends on the type of print. Usually its an impression made in some type of mud that drys out and gets covered later. Same thing can happen with sand, even sand under water. The trick is a gentle deposition of a top layer that would drift in from wind or moved in from small wave actions. I violent action lime storm waves would almost certainly destroy any freshly laid tracks. But it isn't even that though. Theres no clear timeline or agreed upon rate or depth for which how fast the global flood rose, so it becomes very difficult to think about why tracks all over the world can have tracks in multiple layers of sedimentary rock, meaning animals were still alive to make them at those times. So it would impossible for such a thing to occur if its even remotely as sudden as is widely accepted.
Oi your common sense and balanced thinking is not welcome here
Fantastic stuff, I've been intrigued by the floating forest hypothesis since I first encountered it (I love woods, swamps, mangroves and reefs, putting them all together is my dream biome!) Something I'd like to incorporate into my worldbuilding as an aspiring writer.
One thing I'd like to point out though, dinosaurs almost certainly didn't drag their tails unlike living reptiles. It's counterproductive to their gait, size and proportions. Almost all dinosaurs had their spines aligned in a horizontal manner, so theropods were bipedal so needed them to counterbalance everything before their hips, sauropods there necks and hadrosaurs to counter balance the weight of their foreparts. Stegosaurs and ankylosaurs had clubs and thagomizers on them so dragging them would have just led to catching their weapons in the underbrush and ceratopsians had relatively small tails for the most part anyway. It's not a big deal though, scientists each have their own particular field of expertise, and geology isn't the same as biomechanics of an animals musculoskeletal structure so no worries.
Perhaps DIY AIRCRETE....
and DIY SODIUM SILICATE
might help your biome project ?
Also... WISNERS ROCKET MASS HEATER.
The continents are covered with an average of 1,800 meters of sedimentary materials deposited by rapidly moving water which are heavily littered with rapidly buried creatures which are now fossils. This geologic fact provides overwhelming evidence of the Noaich Flood because uniformitariqanism cannot have produced the strata, it has been demonstrated scientifically that strata form rapidly and in groups together at the same time, making the strata above and below any given streata to be of no difference in age. Features of the strata which prove global catastrophism is the cause of the global strata are:
1. The mountains of the earth are comprised to a large extent of deformed strata, which cannot have become deformed by heat and pressure miles deep inside the earth, but were instead soft and moist when deformed
2. There is a nearly complete absence of erosion between any of the strata
3. There is a nearly complete absence of grass in the geologic column
4. There is a nearly complete absence of soil in the geologic column
5. The strata have fine and distinct boundaries between each other instead of gradating
6. The majority of strata possess grain-size distribution - a feature that is produced only by rapid sedimentation
7. Sand dunes formed under water litter the continents, verified by their approximately 15 degree angle of inclination. Sand dunes formed by wind have an approximately 25 degree angle of inclination.
8. Fossilization requires rapid burial - all strata in which there are fossils were deposited rapidly, regardless of other properties they may have.
9. Mountain Water Gaps exist globally - mountains which were still soft and moist after rapid uplift which were pulverized by a newly created stream of water (river) which ate through the mountain.
Water seeks the path of least resistance and could not have eaten through the side of a mountain. It would instead flow around it.
10. Dropstones are common in mountains - large rocks and boulders which have become moved into place by very fast moving water and sealed in sedimentary strata which deform around them
11. Planation Surfaces are plentiful on the earth - broad areas, sometimes hundreds or thousands of square miles which have been planed off by massive sheets of rapidly moving water as the flood waters ebated the continents during the end stage of the Noaich Flood - uniformitarianism cannot account for massive planation surfaces.
12. Percussion Marks - impact marks ranging is size from small to huge on rocks and boulders across the earth show that extremely fast moving water (up to and beyond 100 mph) has moved rocks weighing up to tons at high speed - enough speed to cause percussion marks under water when they collide with each other.
13. Massive quantities of methane hydrates lining the continents - frozen or semi-frozen methane hydrate which is buried in sediments around the edges of the continents - produced by massive volumes of plant matter ripped from the continents and buried which has now become frozen methane gas. There is so much of it that if it could be mined efficiently, it would provide enough energy for the entire world for over a century.
14. Oil and gas reserves under high pressure - the pressure could not be present after many millions of years. The gas or oil would dissipate all pressure through fissures and microfissures in the rocks. Unless the oil and gas were produced recently, it could not be under high pressure.
15. Polystrate fossils - leaves, marine fossils, trees, worms, etc. show that the strata in which they are encased were deposited rapidly, effectively eliminating all concepts of vast geologic time.
16. Massive canyons - carved out while their strata going down to 1 mile or more deep into the earth were eroded very rapidly, effectively eliminating all concepts of vast geologic time.
17. Megasequences - There are 5 major megasequences which span the majority of North America and can be found globally: 1. Sauk Megasequence, which rests upon basement granite 2. Tippecanoe Megasequence 3. Keskaskia Megasequence 4. Arrasoka Megasequence. 5. Zuni Megasequence The Navjo Sandstone covers 400,000 sq. km in the western US. comprised of grains eroded from the Appalatian Mountains. The Coconino Sandstone formation averages 315 ft. thick and covers 518,000 sq. km in the US. and sits on the Hermit Shale. The boundary between them is extremely fine. This removes the potential for long perionds of time between the Hermit Shale and Cocconino Sandstone, and verifies both were created rapidly. The Tapeats Sandstone and Redwall Limestone of Grand Canyon can be traced across the entire United States, up into Canada, and even across the Atlantic Ocean to England. The chalk beds of England (the white cliffs of Dover) can be traced across Europe into the Middle East and are also found in the Midwest of the United States and in Western Australia. Inclined (sloping) layers within the Coconino Sandstone of Grand Canyon are testimony to 10,000 cubic miles of sand being deposited by huge water currents within days. Directional sorting is often found in the fossil record. The Miffle Permian Qixia and Maikou limestone of southeast China cover 1.2 million sq. km.
18. Giant gravel deposit sheets miles wide and dozens of feet thick (such as in western Sichuan Basin, China), sometimes up to hundreds of miles from their source location, and massive rock deposites up to miles deep
19. Numerous other facts - erosion rates, geologic young age for the earth's rocks, genetic mutation rates, and many others all discredit uniformitarianism and show the Flood of Noah is a historical geological fact.
Evan Sorry but most of what you state in your post is not supported by the geologic data around the world. Specifically Point 2 in your post is simply not true. I have mapped using well logs and 2D/3D seismic data numerous cases where there is obvious erosion between rock layers, usually evidenced as angular unconformities and the pinchout of beds below the unconformity.
An excellent example of such an erosional unconformity is found at Siccar Point in Scotland a bit east of Edinburgh. If you are not able to visit this outcrop you can got here on RUclips, simply type in Siccar Point and view the videos. Obviously the lower beds were deposited, buried and lithified, uplifted and tilted, eroded and then the overlying sandstones deposited across the eroded beds. These new sediments were also buried and lithified and the uplifted and eroded to the position we see today.
These angular unconformities with erosion between beds are fairly common around the world and through the geologic column indicating the processes of deposition, burial, uplift and tilting, erosion, and new deposition has occurred on the Earth for a long, long time.
This seems to my mind as a lot of geologic processes to occur in the time that many Young Earth Creationists claim, e.g. 6000 years, since the beginning of the Earth.
@@petechimney6755 *Continental Erosion Rates.*
Australia. Most of the continent is said to be older than 0.5 billion years, while some is supposed to be older than 3.0 billion years. Orthodox geologists are surprised that very little erosion has occurred in ‘all this time, only evolutionist worker bee drones think they can explain this away, the real Creationist and evolutionary scientists realize this is a problem for evolution.
sedimentologists have researched many of the world’s rivers and calculated how fast the land is disappearing. The measurements show that some rivers are excavating their basins by more than 1,000 mm (39 inches) of height in 1,000 years, while others move only 1 mm (0.04 inches) in 1,000 years. The average height reduction for all the continents of the world is about 60 mm (2.4 inches) per 1,000 years, which equates to some 24 billion tonnes of sediment per year. That is a lot of top dressing!
On the scale of one human life-span, these rates of erosion are low. But for those who say the continents are billions of years old, the rates are staggering. A height of 150 kilometres (93 miles) of continent would have eroded in 2.5 billion years. It defies common sense. If erosion had been going on for billions of years, no continents would remain on Earth, and there would be no fossils left or very little left, we wouldn't see the great sheets of sedimentary rock about 0.5 to 1.5 miles deep running from continent to continent around the entire planet with uncountable trillions of sea creature fossils in them, Noah's flood explains this much better than the evolutionary computer model.
The mountain ranges, such as the Caledonides of western Europe and the Appalachians of eastern North America are even harder to explain because they are not as high as Everest, yet are supposed to be several hundred million years old LOL!!!. If erosion has been going on for this long, these mountains should not exist.
Erosion rates of some major rivers of the world Average lowering of the land surface within the drainage basin in mm and inches per 1000 years.17 Wei-Ho 1350 (53)
Hwang-Ho 900 (35) Ganges 560 (22) Alpine Rhine and Rhone 340 (13) San Juan (U.S.A.) 340 (13) Irrawaddy 280 (11) Tigris 260 (10) Isere 240 (9.4) Tiber 190 (7.5) Indus 180 (7.1) Yangtse 170 (6.7) Po 120 (4.7) Garonne and Colorado 100 (3.9) Amazon 71 (2.8) Adige 65 (2.6) Savannah 33 (1.3) Potomac 15 (0.59) Nile 13 (0.51) Seine 7 (0.28) Connecticut 1 (0.04)
Going by the Lowest erosion rates every continent on Earth would be Eroded away completely gone washed into the Oceans about every 10 to 18 million years let's just stick with 12 million years that's every continent gone 10 times over in Just 120 million years, That's a lot for continental uplift to account for going by evolutionary timescales, all the salt would have washed into the Oceans, the amount of salt that comes back out via Man and natural processes cannot account for the amount going in, much more salt going in than coming out bearing in mind that if all the salt on all the land masses washed into the Oceans everything would die including us, also there is a sedimentary rock layer that is around about half a mile deep to 1.5 miles deep that runs clear across this Earth that is full of trillions and trillions and trillions of fossils, these fossils are found from the tops of mountains that run right down below the Earth, we don't see these massive fossil beds forming today, if Continental uplift was accounting for the erosion rates we wouldn't see these great sheets of sedimentary rock with trillions and trillions and trillions of fossils in them running all the way across this Earth running from continent to continent. The evolutionists may be able to explain away some of this, but they cannot explain why we see all this sedimentary rock teaming with Trillions upon Trillions of fossils, mostly sea creature fossils thousands of miles inland running from the tops of mountains to the bottom of mountains and deep under the Earth everywhere, besides the Erosion rates are to high and to fast for evolutionists to account for this everywhere on all land masses, they only have theories, hypotheses and wild Assumptions and a corrupted world view to base their explanations on, anybody with any common sense at all could see this smacks evolution in the face hard, they can't account for this without invoking ridiculous fantastic Hypotheses that have no foundation in reality or science, and they can never back up their wild Assumptions claims theories and hypotheses with Scientific Peer Reviewed papers that show the problem has been solved, No usually it's a paper about more Hypotheses and theories on how the Original theory works, Never facts always wild claims with zero proof.
1. Also remember that the Evolutionists say the continents formed about 2.5 billion years ago and at the lowest erosion rate 150 kilometers of land mass would have eroded away in that time, that us a humongous amount for continental uplift to account for, not to mention if that was the case all the Great sheets of sedimentary rock 0.5 to 1.5 with Trillions of fossils in them they would have been eroded replaced with different geological layers. evolutionist fairytales are So funny :)
creation.com/eroding-ages
@@petechimney6755 Oh Yes could you tell me more about these erosion rates please, are they just isolated small areas, or does this erosion in the Strata you're talking about is it all over the Earth? Or in small areas I mean small compared to all the Strata across the hole Earth?
There is no consistent rate of erosion. Several factors are involved: erosive capability of the rock(s), amount of rainfall, topography, yearly climate. In general rocks in areas with high rainfall and softer rocks erode faster. Having said that glacial advances might scrape off a lot of rock material in a short period of time.
In general erosion of a highland will be confined to that area. Little erosion will occur along a coastal plain. During major storms such as hurricanes coastal erosion may be significant but this is erosion of soft sediment and little in the way of erosion of lithified rock. During periods of flooding there may be erosion along the edge of rivers but again this is typically soft sediment and not rock material.
In general there is no world-wide erosional surface. Not even at the top of the crystalline basement, which is usually (but not always) Precambrian age, is there a single surface of erosion.
@@petechimney6755 RUBBISH that there is no consistent erosion rate, GO look internet search the official government erosion rates Super Genius, I have looked, But you won't check it out because it goes against your satanic evolution paradigm.
I would love to see you discuss this with John Lennox.
I have great respect for Dr. Lennox, and have watched his videos and read one of his books. His area of expertise, however, is math. True, he does a lot of generalized debating versus atheists, but does not really do a deep dive into paleontology, which is Dr. Wise's area of expertise. I appreciate the unique contributions of both men!
@@obsoletevalues6209 So do I. That's why I want to lock them in the same room and film the talk. I think it would be great.
If you did a core sample of Spirit Lake near Mt. St. Helens, you would find a biostratigraphic column example that perfectly resembles the "evolutionary" column, which refutes the idea of evolution, as opposed to catastrophic-flood sediment, completely.
Are there fossils found at mt helens, and are they ordered in separate strata from simpler life forms to more complex?
@@gjorgin yes
@@nathanwofford2996 could you please proide me a link, or video? I couldnt find anywhere...
@@gjorgin No, I'm sorry I can't, and yes, I know this sounds like a cop out. It's been years since I went down this rabbit hole. The evidence is out there. I probably should have just left it alone and moved on, but I've got a little OCD and I could not, not respond to you. I wish you all the best. Peace.
@@gjorgin Even if we see something at Mt. St. Helens similar to what we see all over the earth in the strata, what you described is not what is found all over the earth. Extremely complex life throughout every strata, just different ecosystems being taken out over multiple mega sequences of the flood. Every strata is full of fossilized ocean life, indicating a watery catastrophe. Lots and lots more evidence billions of dead things were catastrophically buried and laid down by water in many layers at the same time all over the earth.
Love it!
How many versions of various "realities" on any number of subjects would exist if we didn't have peer review analysis on any claims I wonder...
How did kangaroos get from turkey to Australia after the flood?
Ups. First class mail.
@@juriaan13 lol... and sloths...
Now don't spoil their fun!
@@peterleadley7103 they don’t have fun.
Noah Uber
I have often wondered what lunar tides would be like without coastlines to contain them. I hypothesized a large bulge of water traveling east to west following the gravitational pull of the moon. I wonder if something like that might explain the latitudinal displacement of colonies.
Once the fountains of the deep burst forth, on the day Noah entered the Ark.
Only the creatures with the breath of life in their nostrils survived with the family.
The enormous forces exerted on the earth were unimaginable.
The hydroplate theory makes sense of all the things found buried or even on mountain tops such as oyster in the closed position.
In this video Brian Nichol gives a great understanding of Walt Browns hydroplane theory.
ruclips.net/p/PLvTah6tEcChwZjUyG6X_5_zwVDAalSJHI
The hydroplate theory wouldn't leave a habitable planet. All that heat has to go somewhere, and the atmosphere is it. You're talking several thousand degrees kelvin over the entirety of the atmosphere during such an event.
@@Keairan3 true. But your discounting that water is a much greater conductor than air. Enough water to produce the oceans of today would have more than enough effect to keep the atmosphere from cooking.
No, no it would not. Hydroplate states that all small bodies, ie, kuiper belt objects, asteroids, comets and similar objects in the solar system. The asteroid belt alone is 2.39*10^21 kilograms alone. Escape velocity for earth is 11.2 km/s. The kinetic energy to get those objects out of earth's atmosphere is 1.5 * 10^29 joules. There's about 1.26*10^22 L of water on earth. Let's be generous and say that only half of that energy went into heating up all that water. The specific heat of water is 4184 j/(kg*C). Calculating all of this gives us a water temperature increase of 1421 Kelvin. And that's being generous. Being realistic, that temperature increase at minimum doubles, and that's not counting comets, kuiper objects or non asteroid belt small solar satellites. to increase our temperature gain further. The oceans boil, the skies turn into plasma, and not even extremophiles survive that type of devastation.
Fascinating. Also explains where ancient tales of floating islands could have originated. Realities remembered by the humans who survived the great flood and told to children or recited around a fire to remember what no longer existed.
The incestuous spawn of eight people from 4000 odd years ago ? You have a fanciful imagination. Just need to get honest about what is credible. The global flood isn't.
This has been a personal. theory of mine for many years. Nice to have it explained scientifically. Thanks for the excellent video.
He explained a lot, really interesting! 👍
Unfortunatly there wasn't any science included, just mimicked.
@@kai_plays_khomus
Did you actually _expect_ any science?
@@philaypeephilippotter6532
Totally not. I watched just for amusement. Unfortunatly it seems to be different with the poster of the initial comment - and he fell victim to the manipulation tactics of pseudoscience - he seems convinced now that the video was somehow scientific.
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@@kai_plays_khomus ..... how is there no science, it’s all scientific evidence.
This is evidence from palaeontology and geological studies.
You trying to state that it’s not science is showing you to be a bit of a numpty.
In addition to the floating forest theory, what about the 1st to sink theory?
Tim Kennedy: I know who I'd like to sink first!
What about all the giant organs mud fossil university has had proven are real
@@JA-qf2du -Uhm... are you dyslexic? You might want to rewrite your comment so it is at least somewhat coherent.
@@canadianjoker5033 You can search mudfossil university in a few seconds. The mudfossil theory is the idea that certain stone formations are fossils of gigantic organisms. A notable instance is the argument that Devil's Tower in Wyoming is the stump of a huge tree. Then there are mudrocks which are sedimentary rock which originate from mud deposits, notably shales.
There is a RUclips channel called mudfossil university and some blogs or social media pages which call themselves the same. Don't expect other people to do all your work for you.
i love his lectures!!!
Yes but they are not based on fact!
@@PCB-dg7pt For you.
@@bigboreracing356
If these were based on fact he would be presenting the science demonstrating an ancient Earth, life diversifying by evolution and no global flood of Noah.
That's why this is not based on fact.
@@bigboreracing356
Feel free to demonstrate where, how and when it was wrong.
The particular interpretation of the Bible based on a particular and recently devised doctrine with zero alignment to evidence is far more likely to be wrong.
ie: Young Earth Creationism is highly unlikely to be correct.
At a level of 99.999999999% wrong.
@@bigboreracing356
Oh, a tiny one, as I noted.
But I'm into evidence. The evidence says not.
Could the "floating forest" just be more debris from continents from before the flood? Since plants and animals both increase in order of "terrestriality". I think all you have to do is look at US southwest and you see evidence of flood.
What are your thoughts on the formation of the Kansas plains and rolling hills? Also the formation of the Flint hills where the rocks seem to be laid down in rings according to elevation. Where did the flint actually originate? How would massive flood waters be responsible for depositing massive amounts of fertile soil? Evolution scientists say a giant ocean existed in Kansas millions of years ago. But do drainage patterns actually show that? What are your thoughts?
These guys have done an excellent job in laying out Earth's history..This thesis makes an lot more sense than the incoherent tale that's told in universities and schools..indeed in days of climate change and potential for global catastrophe none of which is ever envisioned in the standard text book dogma it's time we take an serious look at the flaws in the sciences or face the potential for disaster never even knowing what hit us never mind what should we do!!
Wrong. They have done an absolutely horrible job of "laying out Earth's history". What you learn in school (hopefully you went to a real school) is really what you want. When a "science" lecture begins with "Science should begin with Scripture", you're dead wrong. Period.
if incoherent tales of science are taught in schools how come we have got all this new technology , obviously someone in those incoherent universities are doing a good job ........
@@bigboreracing356
Paranoid nonsense.
Science is coherent if you can be bothered learning.
When I was a printer (decades ago) the trade was incoherent to outsiders. Measurements like "Ems" and "Ens" and picas made it incomprehensible- until you learned it.
Science has no political agenda.
Science is taught because it should be taught.
Creationism should not be taught because it is garbage.
@@bigboreracing356
More paranoid nonsense.
Do you ever actually think things through or do you always assume disagreement is about others trying to control you? (ie: paranoia)
@@bigboreracing356
This is text with no para-verbals mate. If that was supposed to be sarcasm, it was certainly missed.
Apologies if that is the case.
But sad to say, the Poe effect operates with creationists. They are often indistinguishable from parody.
Thanks. Too Del Tackett and Dr. Wise for this well produced video on this topic, which to me is very important to prove that we were all created and didn't arrive here by evolution. Thanks Again 😊
So you are a clueless American with a childish stubborn opinion, great
Thanks Dr. Kurt. I am grateful for your clear explanations, and I enjoy many of the comments.
@@jamesginty6684
Hi, thanks for your advice, but no I haven’t been diligently researching much, except to try to get familiar with my Bible and study what the original Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek really mean. It is fun to watch Dr. Kurt’s take on Biblical events.
Creationists are very good at "explaining" Genesis,chapters 6,7,8 ,&9, but have completely ignored the "In the beginning" creation of Genesis,chapter 1. Also they offer no explanation of Noah's or acknowledgement of his "bad behavior" after he got off the ark, as recorded in chapter 9. Also there is no explanation of who were the wives of the post-flood generation, the 16 sons of Shem, Ham and Japheth, Noah's grandsons, who were to repopulate the post-flood world and "overspread the earth" by which the nations were divided in the earth 🌎 after the flood. So in effect the only difference in the Evolutionists and the Creationists is how they work time into their theories. Evolutionists need millions of years to make their senseless teachings plausible, whereas the Creationists, in keeping with their interpretation of the Genesis account, need only 6,000 years to "prove" their presentations. The Flood gives the Creation geologists their one isolated "causal catastrophic event", of short historical duration, 13 months or so, to which they can devote a career to "scientifically" explain its earthly effects. And since th term "dinosaur 🦖🦕" was coined in the 19th century,they have created a pedantically biased field of study. They are in most cases pseudo-Bible students who only use Scripture to lend a thread of credence to their otherwise secular, purely scientific postulations. Nevertheless, We Love and forgive All people everywhere!
Hi, Wayne Sumner, yes love and forgiveness, thank you for your reply. I find there is a mind-boggling amount of information about all these things (which is great fun!). I feel an urgency to know the Gospel of Jesus in its entirety, which in itself is fascinating and keeps expanding its parameters, as I continue to connect the dots in the Old and New Testaments. I have been hearing teaching lately (i.e. “Fasting Brings Restoration, Living as Salt and Light, Parts 1 and 2 by Derek Prince), that the faithful have a responsibility to petition for change (fast and pray) before our country(ies) and people stumble past the point of no return. It’s all amazing, so I wish everyone could feel the same way.
@@waynesumner1829, Why is evolution over millions of years senseless? There is a massive amount of evidence to support it. The creationist alternative is super hyper evolution happening in a few years when they got off the ark and zero evidence for anything in the biblical story.
At 14:00 I think as well, the climate sedimentary coverage, put a tremendous amount of material in the water so that small things that would be decomposers were also having trouble surviving just as larger creatures were dying. One of the impacts you and others like yourself have made on me is the contemplation of the immensity of the catastrophe of the flood. When God says he will, "blot out" He meant it.
no flood
An amazingly interesting lecture👍
Shame its complete and utter nonsense.
@@tonyalan3671 You’re so proud of yourself aren’t you.
@@xTriad No not proud. Just doing my little bit to help burst these bubbles of BS
@@tonyalan3671 These bubbles are going to grow the more we learn about the deep complexity of life. The modern paradigm will not hold.
@@tonyalan3671you ain't bursting nothing lol
So he is saying there is only evidence of one flood in the whole geological record. He needs to take of those noah tinted spectacles .
1 global flood. You missed that bit Out because it didn’t fit your narrative.
And did he give a date for his one global imaginary flood. He basically contradicts himself repeatedly through out this whole shambolic fantasy!
Noah's contemporaries didn't believe him either,and mocked him until it was too late for them to take notice.
The deluge was a warning example for us today. There will be mockers who will not listen... As long as we warn others, we are fulfilling our commission as Christians.
Luke 17:26,27
2 Peter 3:3,5,6
Has a fossilization experiment ever been conducted? I’m talking getting a chicken, a really tall pipe, lots of sediment and hot water and “quick-burial”. I’d be fascinated to know if you could reverse-engineer the hydro-chemical conditions of the flood in such a manner.
Yes, many times. Many such experiments were done both on land and under water, mostly about 30 years ago.
Only know of one. A downed powerline incident. Electricity burned out living tree roots, then melted minerals in the surrounding soil, this ran into the voids, & made fossilized tree roots in less than 24 hours. They were dug out of the ground.
@@alancadieux2984 Did you hear yourself? The roots themselves were burned out (i.e. destroyed). Fossils found today have only been mineralized, but much of the original biological material remains, otherwise it would be impossible to recover collagen, blood vessels, or osteocytes.
@@Critter145 I didn't say that every situation was going to be the same.
@@alancadieux2984 Right, I realize that, but the example that you gave me, which is all I have to work with in discussions, was a type of event that is very rare and wouldn't necessarily represent the evidence of the fossil record as a whole. The evidence, in this case, being the sudden and catastrophic burial in water-deposited sediments.
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How does floating log mats get buried beneath the younger sediments always when logically the younger sediments would fall beneath the floating mats as they are floating?
@Colin Parkinson ofcourse no answer. They cant use science against science they wrote it and it what they wrote has to be re written that would be a crack in their armor(like proving science would be in a wayy better place if we used the bible as history) and an attack to their pride
Sweet, a channel that doesn't have the comments disabled.
Indeed, but an awful lot of the people who comment seem to have their brains disabled.
@@philaypeephilippotter6532 Like this speaker. There was no flood.
@@johnh383
Though I was talking about those who've commented I do completely agree with you about the _great flood._
Well those would probably be liberal leftist because they dont want to hear the truth, they dont want it discussed and they dont believe in freedom of speech. Theyd rather silence everyone and listen to bill nye..🙄
It's nice to actually be able to have and read discussion's
Is there any evidence these plants could utilize salt water?
Oceans were not salty back then.
@@TexasHoosier3118they probably were a little bit, just not nearly as much. It would be a stretch to say there wasn't any salt in the ocean. We can't know that for sure. But we can back calculate from the amount of salt added to the ocean yearly to get some kind of idea
Also The mountains arose in increments from pressure, seams all have defrent petrografics, was getting massive waters from north ,
No.
The mountains were formed in an instant.
Many thousands of days ago....
@@JB-yb4wn
There's no meteor craters....none.
So.....
No.
@@bipolatelly9806 : "Many thousands of days ago..." That's funny, good job! LOL.
@@canadianjoker5033
lol
Funny because it's true.
Pressure? Can you elaborate?
A wise man plans for his day in tbe grave a fool carries on with delusion of escaping
You keep designing your tomb sunshine. The rest of us are living the life God gave us!
Aren't you gonna be surprised. If we are just clumps of cells why do we have good and evil? Love and hate? Where did intellegence come from? From an intellegent designer. You believe we came from a rock eroded in to oceans of a primordial soup.
A true fool goes out of his way to waste time, watching things he doesn’t believe in when he believes he only has one life with no soul.
@@j_jones_ Priceless rebuttal. Makes sense to me. Why do these people come and try to refute God.
The best thing to do in finding more fossils is to explore to the area where the lowest elevation on face of the earth is located.
Water is driven by the force of gravity for it to flow towards the lowest point on earth first. Water never flow towards the highest elevation on earth but yet there are few areas in the world where water flows upward unworthy to be explored in finding fossils.
As water during the great flood accumulated, it flows first to the lowest part of the earth then stop as soon as the highest elevation is reached making water to be in zero degree level with respect to the horizontal curvature of the earth.
Dead living things will float on the water after few days being dead because of the gas that fills up the hallow space in the stomach, like a balloon floats on the air when oxygen is introduced.
Having said all that therefore; dead living things will be carried away by the flow of water, deposited and buried them to the lowest part of the earth. This is the point where more fossils were buried more than anywhere else.
The greatest challenge for this theory is how to find the original elevations in a particular geographical area of the earth during the time of Noah, as elevation changes when erosion takes place.
I don't believe that the science of geodetic engineering existed yet during the time of the great flood.
Geodetic engineering is the science that studies the measurement of the earth's surface that includes the ff: horizontal bearing angle of specific point, curvature of the earth with respect to its x-axis or horizontal axis and the declination of the North magnetic angle.
There is no better place to find more fossils than within the lowest part of the earth.
It is technically wrong for the fossil explorers to randomly pick a site for their studies without considering which part of the earth that has the highest and lowest elevations first.
The fossils found in the midst between the lowest and highest elevations on earth are not necessarily the fossils produced by the great flood during the time of Noah. Thanks for the video it is indeed very educational, as God said "share your knowledge to everyone."
I absolutely enjoyed your informed comments. I've heard Steve Austin several times when he covered his research in this and the nautiloids covering much of the western U.S.. The fishopods may take a little thought, but it was all very interesting. I know of a fish variety or two that mimic walking for a short period, but I wouldn't think of them as being in any way transitional. If God did create such, they are original sea life, created on the fifth day. Is this what you were saying? God bless.
Evolution describes these transitional species that move from water to land, evolution is constantly occurring throughout nature and yes you do know of a fish that is in a transitional stage, several varieties exist and it is a clear modern demonstration of an evolutionary step, it will however 'if the species survives' take hundreds of thousands of yrs to transition to a land living species, this is not a transition that we can view, we can only use fossil records and genetic sequencing to provide the evidence and species links.
@Tim Webb It's not imagination, just look at the mudskipper fish, it uses its fins to walk on, it has rudimentary lungs to allow it to breath out of water, this is a transition stage and it can be shown in its biological make-up, a frog however is a amphibian a totally different kind of species not a fish so your comparison is misguided.
@Tim Webb I think you are confusing progressive theory with established theory, one of the biggest gaffes that those who deny science make... the mudskipper is a fish, it can be demonstrated genetically and lives and functions like a fish but it has been venturing for 10's to 100's of thousands of years onto land with which it has through mutation and survival of the fittest managed to adapt and develop the ability to breath in air as well as support it full weight on it fins and adapt its muscles to allow it to use them to walk, this is not just some random scientism having a whim, we can genetically decode the mudskipper and see how and why it can do what it does as well as confirm it still is a fish and not some other form like an amphibian.
Your comment on the coelacanth - please expand on that, to my knowledge there is no embarrassment at all and I suspect it is simply a misguided argument on some kind of evolution denier site why you think it is.
I am sorry if you are not educated in the sciences and specifically genetics and biology but just because you cannot understand it and its complexities does not mean it has to have a simpler explanation to allow you to understand it and accept it, nature doesn't work that way.
@Tim Webb The insults are a bit childish, let me know if you find adult debate a bit grown up for you (patronising intended) -
if you want to deny what science has established and proven then present a paper for peer revue or cite me someone that has and had it accepted that shows otherwise, until then I go with what science has established and accepted and can be shown and demonstrated.
Yes you are correct in a sense that it is exploiting the land/water interface but for it to do that it must adapt and evolution allows it to do so, this is why your goldfish would die if you tried it take it out of the water for a few minutes and why the mudskipper doesn't, this is not a quick transition, there is 10's of thousands of yrs to get to this stage from its ancestors.
The fins are still fins and they are biologically still fish in every other way except for adaption of a air bladder and gills to allow for air storage pocket like a basic lung, you can look at other animals like seals etc who are much further on in transition and have fully developed lungs and have lost all gill function but they still biologically have genetic remnants of a gill system, seals however keep their fins as oppose to adapting with feet etc because they rely on the sea for food and efficient mobility to catch it so any mutation of their fins that would benefit land movement would more than likely be negative to mobility in the sea and we see survival of the fittest take over. To be noted it is not fated for any living thing in transition to make the completion, environmental, food and predators all have a large influence to evolutionary development and as these can change so can the direction evolution has already taken.
As for the coelacanth - I really have no clue where you got this idea it's an embarrassment to science, it isn't and never was, the fish was discovered in 1938 if I recall and was thought to have been extinct for 65million yrs as we had only ever seen fossils of a similar fish, if you can appreciate that we have only explored 5% of the oceans so it is no surprise really to find new species or ones we thought long extinct, with regards to this fish we now have studied it extensively for several decades and we now know and can trace its family tree and history also its body shape has been found to be much more diverse than thought and explains the initial confusion, at no point however from its discovery to today has the claim this is the extinct 65million year old fish, at most we have suggested it is an ancestor for which now with genetic coding we can establish to be correct... no embarrassment at all and if you believe it is then cite me where you get your info from so I can proof read it for accuracy.
To deny evolution is to not understand it, no one in 170 yrs has successfully provided any papers for peer review that demonstrate evolution to be wrong, unfortunately opinions and the bible are not evidence.
@@bigboreracing356 The science!
The fact that it is the most solid accepted scientific theory ever, it is supported by several unrelated fields of science and the fact we can watch it happen in real time in a lab, take covid for example, there are thousands of variants of it of which a few take hold and spread widely, the virus has evolved.
When people often argue against evolution they use false arguments like macro and micro, they simple do not understand what evolution is to start with and are using a warped version usually pushed by the church which totally misrepresents the real version, Darwin's original ideas was the foundation, our modern understanding of evolution is based on his but very different, the confirmation that secured that last nail in the coffin was when we were able to genetically unravel any surviving piece of DNA from any living thing, the very instruction book that showed the relationship of all living things as we know and how they are linked and where they sit on that evolutionary tree.
Kurt, could you kindly confirm that you once said / wrote the following ....." Although there are scientific reasons for accepting a young earth, I am a young-age creationist because that is my understanding of the Scripture. As I shared with my professors years ago when I was in college, if all the evidence in the universe turns against creationism, I would be the first to admit it, but I would still be a creationist because that is what the Word of God seems to indicate. Here I must stand."
The type who would reject a video of Jesus himself if Jesus said anything that goes against his view on Jesus. Incurable hypocrisy. Bending reality to their perception of it and ignoring everything that shows they are wrong. You cannot argue with that type.
question: like the flat lines of coal...there are repeated flat lines of black flint in Ein Avdat canyon in Israel. How was that formed--in light of the Flood. I was intrigued by it when I saw it.
The Colorado river has meandered, and changed direction in many place. If a vey large body of water where to break over the river at the time of the "flood", why would this huge volume of water change direction in the same way the Colorado river has done over millions of years. Would this water not just travel more or less in a straight path, destroying the shape of the river we see today.
Rivers did not run up hill not even millions of years ago the flood is how the river formed
Utah used to be under water, and several other states, an enormous lake. Up on the mountains are benches, former seashore of an ancient inland sea, high above sea level, there are even seashells there. Eventually a weak spot allowed the water to break through and carved the Grand Canyon in a matter of days. There are oral traditions among Native Americans, of a time when this inland sea existed and the great fishing, it all changed in an instant of geologic time. That it is still remembered, means it was not that long ago. What was left slowly dried up to form the salt flats of western Utah, and the Salt Lake.
Does your hose trickle run in a straight line when you leave it on for several minutes? No. The dam break explanation is supported by such things as incised meanders
The surface area of the lake was about 10000 sq. Mi. ,2500 cu.mi. of water.@@dongray4064
This presentation is an outstanding analysis of the evidence using knowledge of nature, natural science, mater, and it's motion through space and time. By using physics and a clear understanding of natural processes like decay, Dr. Wise establishes a compelling theory. It is very encouraging to see this paradigm shift in scientific thought.
Wrong!
@@chrism3845 Elaborate!
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Lol still waiting.
Floating log mat theory works as well.
Why do you need a localized floating forest to explain the fossil record?
Maybe the North-Atlantic marine region did have an abundance of these now extinct ecosystems,
But the pre-Flood earth could easily have incorporated the now extinct ecosystems on a more global scale.
Since the Flood was a global event, it would have brought plants from all ecosystems.
But you have to remember that the actual flooding of the earth was also a gradual process; it didn't happen in one moment, but over the course of 40 days.
Naturally, the ecosystems closer to the shoreline would have succumbed to the rising sea level first, and then followed by increasingly terrestrial ecosystems.
Another thing I'd like to point out is that the climate of pre-Flood earth would have been significantly different from what we have today.
Why? Because before the Flood there was a water canopy surrounding the earth - something that we don't have now.
The basis for the canopy is in Genesis 1:6-8 and in the Hebrew wording of Genesis 6:17.
Notice that "the Heavens" are sandwiched between waters "beneath" and "above" it,
and that it specifically was the waters _"beneath"_ the "expanse", or the "Heavens", that were collected to form seas so that dry land could appear.
Also, the word "deluge" of Genesis 6:17, basically means "heavenly ocean" in Hebrew.
This "heavenly ocean", or water canopy, would have created a much stronger greenhouse effect than we have now,
it would have shielded the earth from cosmic radiation significantly better (causing radiocarbon dating methods for anything older than the Flood to be highly inaccurate),
and it would also have housed much of the water that God used to cause a global Flood - as is also explicitly described in Gen 6:17.
Some ecosystems that are now extinct might very well have required that specific climate to survive.
Now, the climate is not a constant thing; it changes through cycles over the course of centuries and millennia.
But the pre-Flood climate must have been so radically different from any climate extreme humans have experienced after the Flood.
A very interesting and compelling presentation.
Hahaha No
nope lol its pure nonsense in the purest form of nonsense
@@bonysminiatures3123 Yepp… just like your hollow brain 😗👉👈
@@janeleen7 if mines is holllow god knows what your is...
@@bonysminiatures3123 I pity you and your comment doesn’t make any difference.. I’m still a Christian because I’m smart. Though there is A LOT of evidence that God is real, I’m not going to be wasting my time proving it to anyone, on judgment day all angry atheists will know the truth, and they’re going to be scared poopless. I hope you will not be part of it. 😣
Could the various levels of species be caused in part by the specific gravity for any one specie . So in a flood the drown animal floats at a specific level under the water due to weight, natural buoyancy, and trapped gasses. As mud flows cover areas of floating animals they are buried relative to the levels that the various dead animals were floating.
vel wheel No. Too many variables.
And too many animals of similar or identical buoyancy on different layers.
The flood scenario makes no sense for any observation in the geological column and the fossil record.
@@kai_plays_khomus Agreed! Float n bloat is not an exact process. And your second point cannot be repeated often enough.
Kai Schiller the geological column has little continuity throughout the world. Several things can be said about it. Millions of plants and animals were rapidly deposited in various soils and aggregate which preserved each specimen. Because this event happened world wide a worldwide flood is implied. Further, binding agents converted the deposits to rock. Logically the binding agents came from extensive volcanic release which coincided with the flooding and massive geologic upheaval. To think fossils were formed worldwide peace meal makes no sense. How is my logic wrong?
@@velwheel3135 What is this "geologic column" you keep on about? The GC I know is simply a summary of the present knowledge of world stratigraphy. It's a bit like the league table for a sport, basically the same but constantly being updated. By definition, it does possess "continuity throughout the world" by jig-sawing and daisy-chaining.
However, there are very few places where the (expected) worldwide deposits of your weird "Flood Model"can be observed. None in fact. Go on, name one.
Your logic isn't wrong, it's non-existent.
I used to live about an hour from the Desert View Entrance to Grand Canyon NP
I have spent over 100 nights solo hiking the backcountry of GCNP
I have respectfully been to the Hopi Sipapu
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The indigenous people of the area have no record of a " global flood "
@Poltermann nope
@@bonysminiatures3123 prove him wrong and ill take the L
Disparity vs diversity, very interesting.
I'm keeping that for future conversations with evolutionists.
For sure.
@@smoraptor well you see the bible has been doctored and changed, the Torah and Quran are both in their entirety still so maybe as a ABRAHAMIC follower you should look into both of these texts rather than just reading the bible.
@@smoraptor what? Do you disbelieve in the Torah and Quran yet follow the bible? You choose to follow the bible which has been acknowledge to not be the original text yet discount the TWO other ABRAHAMIC religions which have their original texts intact? Interesting...
@@smoraptor sorry that you only follow ONE book of the THREE abrahamic religions, nothing more cringe than religious people who refuse to acknowledge other texts relatable to their faith... or are you one of those christians that belive in the holy TRINITY and don't actually believe there is ONE god?
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I believe that the Cambrian Explosion looks more like an extinction event than proof of an explosion of new life. The principles of entropy would lend itself to an ecosystem that does begin with a vast diversity of life that steadily reduces over time with the occational mass extinction. I'm not stating this as fact but rather my opinion and an opportunity for discussion. Feel free to disagree and tell me why. God Bless.
The cabrian explosion happened over several million years as creatures began dibersifying into different niches. There was an extinction event yes, but life resists entropy for its abilty to seek out energy sources as well as discarding genetic traits become detrimental to survival.
Excellent presentation!! 👍👍
If this was true you would find extant species with the dinosaurs.
we do
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You sir are a liar. Shame on you.
@@yuron8210 Bearing false witness is breaking one of God's Holy commandments.
@@theTavis01 You don't even care about God. You suck and you're lame.
@@yuron8210 That's a good trick! Mind reading, I mean. Go on. Try it out on me too.
Could they create fossils in the lab in a short observable time?
Yes we can, we are able to create fossils in labs in 24hrs, this process requires high temperatures and pressures that mimic how real fossils are created but the lab conditions are not the same as those in the real world so no a young earth cannot do what the lab achieves.
genome616 what about the fossilised boot found in an American swamp? A boot that could be traced to an early 20th century brand... ? So fossils being millions of years old... is a flawed presumption. I mean if you can fossilise something in the modern day in a few years. It bring all the dating into question. If you care about observation, science, truth.
@@cwingate4780 LOL - it was a hoax, seriously it was exposed and deunked yrs ago, are people still believing this crap, get your head out of the sand.
@@genome616 seems that being able to recreate something in a short period of time actually is what demonstrable proof is. Since it did happen fast and can be created fast.. sounds like a duck, looks like a duck
@@tomastavlov1168 not really, we are able to do it because we can recreate extreme conditions, conditions that are not found on Earth, using your kind of logic is flawed, I suggest you read up on the methods used - you do understand we can replicate conditions which are found at the centre of the sun through our advances in technology, this is been used to further our understanding of and create a viable source of fusion power... these conditions do not occur naturally on Earth.
I can list you example after example but will leave you with one, because we can not only mimic but go well beyond the pressures and temperatures found on Earth in a Lab we are able to grow Diamonds in a commercially viable timeframe, we have a whole industry doing this and these 'industrial diamonds' are often found in cutting equipment where we need to cut really tough material, the natural process of producing diamonds takes over 1billion yrs hence they are so rare and expensive.
Your 'sounds like a duck looks like a duck' comment only shows your own ignorance, just because something is beyond your understanding does not mean it must be wrong hence your flawed logic.
Check out the new discoveries in fossils- viable soft tissue!!
Yes, please check it out. It refutes the belief in a young Earth.
@@TheJimtanker soft tissue backs up young Earth. How backwards can you be?
@@brbrbuckeye According to Mary Schweitzer, the author of the paper and an evangelical Christian, it does not. Are you refuting the author?
TheJimtanker
Yes of course. Got any proof?
Bring it
Joel Smith
He can't. He's got nothing.
It's not odd to not find tail tracks. Most animals have their tails lifted and suspended as a counter balance for their body weight when walking and running. However, you might expect tail drags from animals lower to the ground, such as a crocodile or a duckbill platypus.
Regardless, that fact doesn't change anything.
Dr Wise. Im in Abbeville SC and see evidence of a catastrophic event in my area . My thoughts were the asteroid that hit the Yucatan may have caused a tidal wave that stirred up strange stuff in my area.
@Tim Webb You're an idiot. Core drillings prove an asteroid strike. Of course you'll deny because you're a science illiterate.
Bill, it's possible. You may want to ask a paleontologist or research fossils in your area.
@@hovind-1921 there is continuing debate among researchers as to whether or not an object hit there, but there is no debate about the much larger impact that created the Gulf of St Lawrence
@@JB-yb4wn Actually Abbeville was spared. Several rumors abound as to why.. despite supposedly being the birth place of the Confederacy.. my heavily wooded land has huge stepped mounds and gullies 100' deep exposing all sorts of things from native artifacts to contorted rock formations.. specifically there are house size boulders randomly sitting in the woods whose stratification lines are turned 180° from how the sediment was laid down..you expect sediment to form and crystalize pretty much to the horizontal.. these are megaton sized boulders that appear to be thrown across the landscape..as far as I know they wouldn't be drop stones from glaciers... unless they advanced much further than scientist think. Whatever is responsible had to have massive kinetic energy to scatter these things.
Excellent presentation. Tracks before bodies. Bio-layering sequence. Coal seams. Very clearly presented. Well done.
Coal is not fossilised.
@@bipolatelly9806 It would be an excellent presentation if there wasn't so many error in it and false claims, seems like scientific evidence is been manipulated and misrepresented for a ideological agenda, any one educated in this field of science can see this for what it really is BS!
@@genome616 Those are some bold claims you're making right there. Are you suggesting that a person who's following a moral code to be honest would falsify evidence? Aren't you the one jumping to conclusions? And that education you mentioned, how do you know you can trust in it? How do you know that education hasn't been manipulated to draw people away from any notion of trust in the Bible? Are you assuming that the people behind the institutions responsible for establishing scientific educations are interested in spreading truth? You should know that education might as well be indoctrination if what's being taught isn't trustworthy. Maybe you should study the Bible to see for yourself if it is trustworthy or not before you make such claims?
Excellent presentation really? So when did this flood occur? Give a rough estimate date.
@@willmo8238 - 2345 BC.. Springtime.
1:07:30 This guy sounds like he's gone mad
I don’t know anything about it, but this videos seems to have very consistent scientific information from decades ago, so why do we still have the mainstream theory in our schools?
Because it's not a mainstream theory, i heard i a lot of theories like this one but they are not mainstream or valid.
An ice age ending seems like a good source of water
Lol keep ignoring the truth...
@@JohnDoe-mv6sh lol - live by your own advice 😂😂😂 - God Squad
How would the so called “ice age” ending cause a worldwide flood? How would the dry land reappear? The oldest Giant Sequoias are about 4,000 years old, but there are none that are older than 5,000 years, so how did all of the Giant Sequoia seeds get planted & start growing just 4,000 years ago? If the earth was billions of years old, and life has existed for hundreds of millions of years, then there should be plenty of fossilized/petrified Giant Sequoia trees that are 10,000+ years old! The fact that there are no Giant Sequoias older than 5,000 years means some type of event just over 4,000 years ago killed every Giant Sequoia on earth, but their seeds sprouted again and have been growing ever since! The Holy Bible says God destroyed all life on earth 4,500 years ago in the Great Flood, that’s why there’s no Giant Sequoias older than 4,500 years!!!
How would sea level change if all glaciers melted?
USGS
There is still some uncertainty about the full volume of glaciers and ice caps on Earth, but if all of them were to melt, global sea level would rise approximately 70 meters (approximately 230 feet), flooding every coastal city on the planet.
@@JohnDoe-mv6sh FACT ice age created a flood 10k years ago and more
Watching this make me hungry lol
I think that C.S. Lewis describes these floating vegetation mats in "out of the silent planet"
Tony Myers Um, and that was a science textbook too, was it? Just like Kurt's bible?
No! It was a work of fiction. Just like Kurt's bible.
@@alanthompson8515 I wasn't trying to be rude. I just thought it was cool.
@@tonymyers1798 Hi. Nor was I. I was just pointing out that you were using a work of the human imagination as "cool" back up for Kurt Wise's equally imaginative re-interpretation of palaeontology.
@@alanthompson8515 If its not true for you it is not true. If it is not true, which it is, it certainly is not hurting anyone that they hold this belief. It makes absolutely no sense for you to try and "convince" someone that this belief is untrue. However if you understood the implications of not believing the Bible for your soul it makes perfect sense for a believer to convince you that it is true. You WERE being rude. You made your point in a very condescending way which is generally considered RUDE in today's culture. Have a nice day, and in the future please try to think before you speak. Thank you.
@@Real_Genuflekt So you're offended by my choice of words? You see invisible rudeness and condescension? And then have the chutzpah to get involved with a real example of said rudeness and condescension. Oh the irony!
BTW Wise is peddling lies. He has the academic background to know this, but prefers to live (somehow!) with the cognitive dissonance. Perhaps he can switch off his rational faculties during these "lectures", so that better biblical science can shine through (that's sarcasm fyi) but he still knows.
Dr. Wise, At ~24:00 minutes you discuss footprints before fossils. Is is correct to think that conventional scientific thinking (millions of years), both footprints and fossils should be found at the same strata? Thanks
Here is my version of what might have caused the great flood.
Picture the Earth at sometime in the past. A giant object drops out of the sky and hits it, not hard enough to knock it out of orbit but hard enough to twist it thirty degrees or so off of its axis.
Where Siberia and Peru were at that that time at the same latitude and had a pleasant climate, suddenly Siberia finds itself 1300 miles further North than it was before the strike. Peru finds itself 1300 miles further south than it was before the object struck, say the Yucatan. In addition to earthquakes, volcanoes, and temperature changes, what kind of winds would a something like that generate? Grazing animals in Siberia who had just eaten lunch would be flash frozen on the spot. It would be no surprise if people in Peru found their stone cities, so carefully built to withstand any disaster, coming down around their heads.
The shock of sudden movement caused by that impact would have caught every drop of water on the earth by surprise, The invisible hand that pushes the driver back in his seat when he hammers the gas digging out from a light or at a drag race.
There is a lag as the earth's water rears back , pushed by the earth's forward movement, AND THEN, here comes the water, the bible talked about, over the land, in waves so high that they expose the ocean floor clear down to its deepest trenches. These waves last a while as the water rocks back and forth back, and forth, smaller and smaller; slower and slower until at last it becomes the sea we know again, and the earth, or at least what is left of it, is the earth again. ONLY! any civilization even ones advanced enough to have had Ships, Planes, and Automobiles would be gone,
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James Nice story, but where's the backup evidence?
BTW re: your last sentence. I'm pretty sure the ancient Chinese didn't have planes and cars, but they did have ships and (very inconveniently for your story) did not vanish. Unless, that is, your fiction is based way back in pre-biblical times.
@@alanthompson8515 !) Something like that would pretty much wipe out a world wide civilization no matter how advanced. 2) it would explain things like how buildings as big and well built as those in Peru might be destroyed, as well as how mammoths like those in Siberia might be frozen solid with undigested food still in their stomachs. WE have to remember, though, that time has come and gone. Whatever happened, happened. We can only speculate.
@@jameswood9556 1) Please name ONE "world wide civilization". There's a problem for you, right from the start. Even with our modern technology, we are nowhere near such an uninviting (?) political set up, so it seems highly unlikely that past generations could have managed it. Is the problem perhaps the dogmatic insistence on "global" and "world wide"? BTW this is an additional point, not back up evidence.
2) Despite what you claim about the latitude of Peru and Siberia once being the same (which is a claim still lacking any evidence, I note), no comet induced catastrophe is needed.
Peru is in the Andes, a fold mountain range formed by Plate Tectonic activity. Occam's Razor suggests earthquakes could so much more easily account for any destruction of construction.
Siberia is a high latitude region, and therefore one of the last to lose glacial conditions. While again it takes little imagination to speculate that a odd mammoth or two died in a meltwater flood and were frozen beneath the debris, it stretches the imagination to speculate an almost instantaneous transmutation of 1300 miles which only killed a handful of mammals ALL OF WHICH were well adapted to arctic conditions, AND otherwise left no trace in the rock record.
For instance, here in the UK, which is en route between Yucatan and Siberia, NOTHING. (And don't think OP haven't looked. Modern geology was pioneered in Britain by "natural philosophers" who were all creationists!)
Your speculation re: Yucatan is equally problematic. Here, the impact evidence is found buried to a depth of almost 1,000 m (3,300 ft) by layers of marl and limestone. Now, please tell me how limestone is a flood deposit.
3) Your: "We can only speculate". NO. We can make inferences based upon observation. It's called science.
@@alanthompson8515 Here's a little list of things that are around Peru: Puma Punku, Cities on top of mountains made of large stones, walls made with stones some of which are so large we couldn't move them today even if we wanted to, some signs of the same type of walls in Siberian, along with Mammoths frozen so fast there is still undigested food in their stomachs when we found them. in and around India all kinds of temples Archeologist's put a 1000Ad time on but I don't believe them. Then there is astronomical knowledge, Mathematical concepts and even knowledge of the human body, Acupuncture that they couldn't have known. There are signs everywhere , That there was a world wide civilization here long before this civilization. I don't remember what my comment was. Was it my comment on what the great flood we read so much about actually might have been? If that's it I've saved in WORD. I'll Paste it on this.
' Don’t believe a, rain driven; flood could cover the whole earth with Water; never mind wipe out any sign of a civilized society. Tell you how it might be done, though.
There are ancient ruins all over the earth. They are places where you will find whale bones in the middle of the Sahara desert. There are mountain ranges that were once at the bottom of the sea. The Andes and Himalayas come to mind, but I’m thinking of a high civilization existing all over the earth probably, but certainly in places like India, Peru, and Siberia.
I’m thinking of Peru with all of its impossibly perfect walls and stone-work, and Siberia with all those mommoths being dug out of the permafrost flash frozen so fast there may still be undigested food in their stomachs, or recently they found one with some blood that was still liquid. There will be some cloning going on.
In those days The (real) North Pole was somewhere else. I don’t know where, but Siberia was about twenty or more degrees further south and Peru was roughly on the same Latitude.
There is a high civilization on the earth. Suddenly they see an asteroid or comet of immense size. They are High Tech, but not high Tech enough to destroy or even divert a Planet Killer from its projected target. So they do their thing. They hide in caves thinking it will hit the land, Go to high places on the chance it might come down in the sea, or build an Arc in an attempt to cover all the bases
Whether by themselves or with others, having protected themselves in any way they could they waited ready to meet their maker as we all must; each of us alone. The Comet or Asteroid hits. Where, Greenland, The ocean off the Yucatan? Who knows?
@@jameswood9556 Oh dear. Your: "Archeologist's put a 1000Ad time on but I don't believe them" SMH. Of course, what you believe is up to you, but RUclips is a debate forum where views come under scrutiny. Just saying something doesn't make it true (or even acceptable to OP). You need to give reasons. And "Coz I don't like it" isn't a reason.
To date, you have listed a few unconnected observations about Peru and Siberia and have asked us to accept them as evidence that a world wide civilisation was destroyed by a catastrophic world wide flood caused by some kind of bolide impact. These are exceptional claims and, as they say: "exceptional claims require exceptional evidence"
The evidence provided by the various disciplines, like archaeology, that employ methodological naturalism (aka science) strongly suggest (i) that a world wide "high" civilisation has never existed, or, if it ever did, it was so far in the past that it has left no trace, and (ii) that an incoming object from space of a size that would cause a world wide flood also never happened in the time scale suggested (the last few thousand years). Again, if it had happened, you need to explain the observed fact that it left no trace in the surface deposits. BTW this last fact applies to any hypothesis that attempts to justify a global flood.
Your sad lack of knowledge regarding things scientific is evident throughout but most noticeably in your: "you will find whale bones in the middle of the Sahara desert." The clear implication is that these are the remains of flood victims. They are not. They are stone bones aka fossils. No amount of special pleading can account for the fact that "bones" from the lower (therefore older) layers of rock are of whales with legs, and that these leg bones get smaller and smaller in the fossils from the higher (younger) layers. Whatever timescale is envisaged, that's quite a difficult trick to achieve with one flood. Try: evolution.berkeley.edu/evolibrary/article/evograms_03
I note that you have either not read or have ignored my earlier comments. You certainly have not addressed any of the points raised. That's a little rude, but not unexpected. You should write a book about it. There are plenty of publishers of children's fiction.
I just opened the Masonic apron symbol on my phone and the message read ...
"He failed science" .
lol what?
The world was once a very beautiful creation.
still is and will continue to ...evovle
@@bonysminiatures3123 You have no idea.
I was searching for incontinence pants and RUclips got me here. I sat through the whole video and it’s very interesting. Now I have soiled myself... BTW why do you give a lecture in your kitchen ?
Looks like a lab to me.
Lab
@@Kenniii3 Lab? XD
@@mikeydcjr Laboratory? Based on the BS content, I'd replace "bor" with "v".
@@alanthompson8515 prove its “BS”
I have a very simple question to ask. Since te flood covered all the mountains, where all that water came from ? It seems that the water need was much more than the water actually present on Earth at that time. Where did come the extra needed to cover everything ?
I would say GOD took care of creating the water and also removing it. It had to go somewhere in the end.
@@lloydbraun6026 OK... Since God can create everything at will, there cannot be any alternative answers. But how can water be create from nothing ?
That's just another problem. Where did the water come from, then where did it go? Then why hide that evidence but leave so many other quandaries?
@@garudel this is the get out clause for the zealots. "God can do anything!" Absolutely no refuting that. Try proving he can't, try proving he doesn't exist. Not possible. Logic and physics have no place in the zealots mind, only dogma passed down from the Bronze Age.
Space, then evaporation and glaciers?
Excelente explanação! Muito obrigado!
There's never been a world wide flood, there isn't enough water on this planet for that to happen.
You are on another level..
@Michael Fritsche The evidence points to the contrary.
if the flood was due to a large metor a roming flood would accure mening the high waters being miles and miles long and hige would floow in one direction then leving areas behind without water being heated by the sun from a riped ozone layer hardaning fast with the life that was bared in the mud fasalized in it look at a inpact zone at the westen side of africa that then has a falling trale thowe the caribean as it slowed and was samurged in to the malten core caseing the land mass abouve to fall it came in from the north east burning plant life thowe chila rusa than got closer to planet and burned wider path thowe uper africa and medataranein than plunged right off cost line this would have created a masseve romeing flood and the fasels and corel to be moved this is how god flood the planent and why it rained for so long from the amont of evaperated water and the tare in ozon caseing sastand moster to evapert agine then the roming flood comeing around and around till it disapated the distruction of numberus ancent structers also would be from same event
@Michael Fritsche i can see why you strugle with proof of god on any words that bring prof to his exsistence you obvesly understood my word but was not a kind enough person to see past the puncaation and errore isn speeling to see truth on the words
@Michael Fritsche and same to you sir you are on a video about proff of a biblical flood and creataon saying your belifes or i should say disbeleifs that is why it is called faith and if ther isent a god or is the grateest truth told in all religons is that to be human and a member of humanty carys a bemurden and that burden is to love care for all humanaty and that all truth will be learnt eventualy for truth is unaversal
Where's all the body's of the humans remains after flood??
I am loving these videos. I wish that I had had access to this when I was a youth pastor. I do have one question though. How does the uniqueness of the animals of Australia fit in to this?
@@JB-yb4wn Actually the lack of predators would explain it. Marsupial species were probably eradicated on other continents through predation. We know kangaroos, for example, were in Asia also.
@@stevegreen7520
Do we know kangaroos were in asia? Where did you get that info?
Were they macropods or were they an ancient ancestor to the roo?
To make the claim you just made I think you'd need fossil evidence.
There was an ancient marsupial line in Africa indicating that they were present before the continents split. North America retained the oppossum from that lineage and a few marsupials are found in asia.
But roos anywhere else?
@@ozowen I read it in a scientific post. They have found them in South America, Asia, and Africa.
@@ozowen CNN actually had a story on it a while back
@@stevegreen7520
I looked and didn't find anything. I suspect the find was the ancient ancestor to the roo. They were a carnivore and didn't hop (as I recall). Big as a truck too.
Dr. Wise, thank you for this very methodical explanation!
Beautifully done Dr. Wise.
what? This is science?
It’s not. These opinions where selective to fit a narrative.
Due to hogging and sagging, the practical limit on the length of a wooden-hulled ship is about 300 feet. The actual history of the longest wooden ships bears testament to this limit. The Wyoming was 329.5 feet (100.4 m) long and 50 ft 1 in (15.27 m) wide, the largest wooden schooner ever built.
By the time you get into dimensions suggested for Noah's Ark, you really would need Divine intervention to keep i in one piece. Naval architecture, never mind the other sciences would disprove the whole issue of Noah's Ark.
Actually....the Blue Whale is the biggest creature to have ever lived.....
Well theres 2 things to that. The first is that we get barely any description of the ark. It is not said to have been a boat of any kind. Only that it was made to stay afloat and keep everything on it from drowning. The idea of it being a boat is added post scripture because that's what anyone thinks of when you talk about a thing you make to float on water.
The second is that the dimensions are obfuscated to say the best.
The physical writer of genesis uses what language he has available to him. The measurement of the ark is given by cubits. Which we know about today from ancient texts, and can convert to any modern measurement. A cubit was a primitive measurement that was anywhere from 14to 20 inches it was the measurement from ones elbow to hand. And since the cubit is the word used. That's what we measure by. But in genesis theres a few verses after the flood begins that states something to the effect of.
"And the water rose 15 cubits, and covered the mountains"
Obviously 15 cubits as we understand them wouldnt cover mountains. So it stands to reason that the "cubit" used in genesis is just a stand in term for "unit of measurment"
If you were to take 15 of that measurement that "covers mountains" and apply that same scale to the measurement of cubits given for the ark, the thing would have been magnitudes more expansive then we think of now as its standard measurement.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 Good thinking and observation. Which verses give the mountains as 15 cubits etc,?
The trouble I find in the Biblical descriptions is that they are all to often vague and imprecise, as though written by someone who has no first hand knowledge of what was actually going on. It then becomes hard to figure the situation out (e.g. the cubits) or it all becomes so vague as to be unintelligible.
I also find it odd that when the Bible says something that IS (relatively) easy to understand, the zealots always seem to turn it into some akin to a miracle.
I suppose translation errors and misinterpretations have a lot to answer for, but why, for example, tell us the Israelites spent 40 years wandering in the desert? Why not say the were nomads, or settled there, or whatever, why get so poetic? Why is there so much controversy about the Red Sea Crossing the Mountain of God or what happened to Jesus at the Crucifixion?
Places have names, people have eyes; but still we get obscurities.
@@peterleadley7103 well in regards to the places names people eyes thing. Stuff isn't always called, or described the same thing through time. And if any written cypher for it is lost. Such as losing all the info in the buring of Alexandria, then problems arise. As far as the 40 years thing. It isnt that they were searching for 40 years. It's that God punished them for disobeying him so only their children were allowed to enter the promised land. They had to wander until all the generation who disobeyed died off.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 I grant you that names change, but the loss of the library in Alexandria didn't mean all the scriptures were lost, far from it. I get the impression from reading the Bible and visiting the places it mentions, that the number of people involved in the Exodus was a relatively small number. Maybe just a few hundred. If that was the case, then it was such a small event in relationship to the world around it that it went virtually unnoticed and undocumented. It was no doubt a big deal to the Israelites, but I don't think the numbers involved would have warranted a Pharaoh sending his entire army after them. They were, after all, just escaped slaves, A couple of hundred men and a few chariots could have wiped them out easily.
There is coral in the Bighorn mountains of Montana above Lodge grass massive chunks and in some places it like your walking on an oceans floor really neat stuff and on the other of Ft Smith Montana there are large blocks of salt sticking out of the clay
Montana was inundated with salt water during the time of the Western Interior Seaway.
this makes more since then the 12 years ive learned in grade school, middle school, and high school, i was confused but this video cleared it all up and i thank you, God Bless
Excellent!
Why are there no present day animal species in the fossil record next to a dinosaur?
there are tons. we've found ducks underneath dinosaur bones
I find that hard to believe there is no way that Noah’s so-called flood could’ve done this I will not except the idea that the Bible literature is history
He was known as Stone and Coal Steve Austin.
Yeah. There's no way. Fossils take a long long time to form. Not 2k years people.! 👌
There are fossils of hard hats found in mines. You telling me that hard hat is 10,000 plus years old?
@@wesmurphy9725 Permineralization is the term you are looking for in that case. 👌 There are different types of Fossilozation. Also you have to specify what type of a hard hat. In the beginning hard hats were made of leather. They were actually made of organic material. Animal skin. In some cases the material can become rapidly fossilized based on the material and the sediments where they get buried. There are a lot of different factors when it comes to fossilization. There are also many different ways to date the fossils based on carbon dating and geographical sediment layers. The proposition that all the fossils that you see came from the biblical Noah's flood is absolutely ridiculous. There is no scientific evidence that would suggest that the planet was covered in water 2,000 years ago. Stop reading the Bible and pick up a scientific journal.
@@Allworldsk1 The bible claims Jesus lived around 2,000 years ago. The flood on the other hand was much earlier and could have occured anywhere from around 6,000 to 13,000 years ago.
@@Rabbit_Person exactly. Doesn't fit. 👌🏻👌🏻
"1min 20':
"we got to make sure that what we are postulating about fossils is consistent with the biblical account"
This means: Only accepting theories [and observations] which are in line with the flood theory.
Oh dear, I don't know which kind of PhD he got, but if it is in science his title should be withdrawn.
God created him one, end of
I am a little confused about the sequence of coal formation. Was this bark dropping, and the forest rolling there and back, supposed to be happening in pre-Flood days, when it was a living forest, or after the Flood, when it had been torn apart and was now a floating log mat? And if the latter, how could the log mat be over what is now the eastern U.S., Europe, and Russia? I understand from Dr. Baumgardner's model that "continental sprint" had already happened by then, driving these land masses apart.
Hello @NeanderthalWoman-ou8ev,
Coal can be found throughout the geologic record. However, it is most prevelant in Carboniferous rock layers, which is what Dr. Wise is discussing here. Carboniferous coal beds were likely formed in the earlier stages of the Flood, predating the Pangaea supercontinent's fragmentation. As the floodwaters surged across the continents, they also transported the floating forest(s) inland. Subsequent turbulent waves progressively disintegrated the forest from its periphery inward, leading to the deposition of vegetative debris across Eastern United States, Europe, and Russia.
@@IsGenesisHistory Thanks!
Amazing! I never knew how difficult it was to become a fossil this really helps my faith!
It shouldn't. this video denies scholarship, so completely loses credibility
@@peterleadley7103 Because scholarship is indoctrination. Sorry to break it to you but yes, indeed your entire school life is a lie when it comes to origins science.
@@peterleadley7103 scholarship? All of your science is a theory just like ours loooooool
@@peterleadley7103 science only becomes credible and factual when it's observable. Can't none of this be observed, so all we got is theories.
@@peterleadley7103
Muh schoolars
Muh human authority
'Floating Forest Theory' ~ inspirational
ozowen
There you are again chump. That's all you do is talk. What did humans evolve from again? Bring it. You have nothing. Keep talking out your ass.
Michael Fritsche
Except you have no proof. Fiction.
"Dr. Menton earned a Ph.D. in cell biology from Brown University. He also served as an associate professor of anatomy at Washington University School of Medicine (St Louis). Dr. Menton is also featured in a video titled, Lucy, She’s No Lady, that demolishes any notion that Lucy walked humanly upright and he clearly explains why Lucy was fully ape. Ape to human evolution is nothing more than pseudo-scientific fantasy"
+@Michael Fritsche
Scientifically IMPOSSIBLE -
"@anthony james humans evolved from hominids. That is a Scientific fact. "
There is NOT a stitch of EVIDENCE that anything ever evolved into anything else - EVERYTHING found in the fossil record shows up abruptly, remains unchanged as long as there are sample of it and IF it is NOT extinct - is unchanged today.
AS Patterson, Gould, Eldridge and so many others have admitted - the POTENTIAL examples for evolution would all fit on a coffee table. NONE are confirmed.
OF the 5 intermediates in the "whale evolution" mythology - three are NOW admitted to be frauds based on nothing factual.
There is NOT a stitch of EVIDENCE that ties mankind to primates. There is about as much similarity between daffodils and primates (~50%) as between primates and humans (~75%).
The MYTH of 98% similarity was NEVER proposed by any scientist based on EVIDENCE - and has never been supported by a single fact.
The MORE Science unravels - the greater the gap between them becomes. A couple years ago it stood about 84% - BUT now that they have been able to actually compare FULL genomes via massive computers - JUST in the last year or so - that is way lower.
You need to keep up on science before making silly comments.
+@Michael Fritscheits JUST as appropriate for me to point out "personal opinion has zero bearing on the subject."; that YOUR personal opinion (and your educational brainwashing) is also irrelevant.
I dd NOT express mine - I expressed the STATEMENTS of three of the worlds LEADING paleontologists - that is HARDLY MY opinion.
I NOTE you cited EXACTLY ZERO evidence for YOUR personal and anti-scientific opinion.
That said - Please inform me of WHAT "the overwhelming Scientific evidence supporting Evolution has shown us. " is and where I can find it. After 50 years of searching -INCLUDING three years in a national museum - I join with Patterson of the British Museum to ask - WHAT ONE FACT of EVOLUTION do you know to be true? AS recorded by him, the answer is NOTHING, and it ought NOT be taught in SCHOOLS.
YOU do NOT get a more exalted spokesman for Evolution that Patterson.Eldridge and Gould say the same thing . .
SO where is your EVIDENCE that EVOLUTION is:
1) POSSIBLE - science tells us it is NOT and that OBSERVED "change over time" is always entropic - leading to EXTINCTION, never better or more advanced life forms.
2) OBSERVED: There is NO such thing as transitional fossils - hence NO record of anything becoming something else. EVER.
3) PROVEN - for it has NEVER been and cannot ever be. EVERY "pillar of Evolution" ever presented has ended up being exposed as fraud or irrelevant - there is NO long-lasting evidence for EVOLUTION.
Proof of the deliberate frauds of evolution include recapitulation, Monera , Piltdown man and all the other fake men allegedly transitional - the whale evolution sequence - which is now an admitted fraud by its "discoverers" and the list goes on.
NOT a single example can be given to answer Patterson's question: What one thing do you know from your area of expertise about evolution that is TRUE.
The answer 40 years ago was NOTHING - the answer today is NOTHING.
Your statement: "the overwhelming Scientific evidence supporting Evolution has shown us. " is 100% false.
+@Michael Fritsche
Again you display alarming gullibility.
Peer review is a JOKE - computer gibberish signed by a well known name passed without question - one firm had to retract several HUNDRED peer reviewed papers - and peer reviewed papers that are excellent have been rejected but later accepted - Its a joke. And it says NOTHING good about SCIENCE.
Piltdown man was UNIVERSALLY endorsed by peer review . . .
And the fact they will NOT accept any CREATIONIST material for peer review makes it even MORE dishonest.
In fact Creationists have their OWN peer review publications - and they OFTEN take the time to point out the SCIENTIFIC errors and FLAWS in the "peer reviewed " material YOU count among your fictitious number.
Many papers have been WITHDRAWN because CREATIONISTS pointed out it was NOT scientifically reliable.
"‘But unbeknownst to the media, the journals at the top got there because of herd behavior by researchers, not because they are better than lower-tier journals at vetting research quality. Here’s why: Researchers submit their best work to the top journals, which can therefore afford to maintain their prestige by rejecting, not publishing, many high quality papers. That’s brand creation-not science. Most of their editorial effort goes into deciding which submitted papers are sufficiently newsworthy. Anonymous peer review by jealous competitors has its merits, but it has a tendency to select for fashionable if relatively unoriginal and inoffensive papers … although these reports often do not substantively advance scientific knowledge, and many subsequently are invalidated.’5 "
Stossel, T., Mere Magazines, The Wall Street Journal, 30 December 2005.
creation.com/creationism-science-and-peer-review
creation.com/nature-peer-review
SO there's THAT . . .
And when a PEER REVIEWED article comes even CLOSE to supporting CREATION - even by mentioning DESIGN - all hell breaks loose:
creation.com/hand-design-peer-review
" and many other fields of science supporting it. "
NOT a single field of Science supports EVOLUTION - NOT even Evolutionary Biology.
BUT every field of Science support the CREATION story to a higher degree than Evolution.
YOU are simply brainwashed NOT to ask questions and NOT to look at the overwhelming flaws in your religion.
"Just accept it and shut up," they say . . .
"WE don't have any PROOF - BUT accept it anyway . . ."
Is there sound evidence of a global flood in "the days of Noah" ?(Matt 24:37-39 in the Bible) Consider these details: Many frozen mammoths have been found in Siberia, in the permafrost. One such mammoth (Berezovka mammoth that was shipped back to St Petersburg, Russia, some 3,700 miles away from where it was located) was found in 1900 with "green" buttercups in it's mouth and stomach, thus indicating that it was frozen while still grazing in a warm climate.
Another example of the global deluge is that over 500 fossilized giant oysters, some with a circumference of up to 11 feet [3.5 m] and weighing up to 650 pounds [300 kg], were found in Acostambo, Peru, at an elevation of 12,300 feet [3,750 m] above sea level in 2001 in the Andes mountains.(newspaper El Comercio)
Paleontologist Arturo Vildozola found the oysters just a few meters from a highway that runs between the towns of Pampas and Colcabama, but nobody paid any attention to them. Thus, what was once under water became a mountain because of the global flood, whereby God buckled the mantle of the earth so that mountains rose and valleys descended, allowing land to be above the "waters".(see Ps 104:5-9)
So, where did all the water come from that completely covered the earth for a period of about one year ? At Genesis 1:2, it says that "the earth was formless and desolate, and there was darkness upon the surface of the watery deep, and God’s active force was moving about over the surface of the waters."(Note: God's personal name is Jehovah, Isa 26:4)
Before the creation of life on the earth, the earth was covered with water. Then, at Genesis 1:6-8, as the earth was being prepared for life, it says: "Then God said: “Let there be an expanse (or atmosphere) between the waters, and let there be a division between the waters and the waters.” Then God went on to make the expanse and divided the waters beneath the expanse from the waters above the expanse. And it was so. God called the expanse Heaven. And there was evening and there was morning, a second day."
So, Jehovah God lifted the massive amount of water that covered the earth above the "expanse" or heaven, being like a thermal blanket that would make the entire earth comfortably warm year round, so that the waters would have been placed as a layer of the atmosphere as a barrier, like the the windows of a car rolled up on a sunny day, so that heat would be retained and not lost, or like a hothouse that traps the sun's heat, keeping the temperature warm even when cold outside.
So, from the end of the 2nd "creative" day till 1,656 years into the 7th "creative" or Jehovah's "rest" day, the waters were suspended above the earth, or for some 36,000 years ago.(Note: each "creative" day was not 24 hours that the churches of Christendom have taught, but were about 7,000 years long, see Heb 4:1-5, whereby the apostle Paul shows that the 7th "creative" day was still ongoing some 4,000 years after it began)
Being that most of the "waters" that completely covered the earth were lifted above the earth (with the exception of those left remaining to be the Seas, Gen 1:10) to act like a warm blanket or "hot house", this kept in the warmth of the sun so that green plants grew everywhere on the earth, even in what is now called the polar regions.
Fossilized pollen and spores have been recovered from seabed sediment in Antarctica that reveals that it once supported palms and near-tropical forests, showing that temperatures at the poles were not vastly different from those at the equator, and in 2019, through a microscope, University of Vermont scientist Andrew Christ looked at twigs and leaves from seabed sediment from almost a mile deep drilling in Greenland [that had been drilled by the US Army and stored in a freezer since 1966], showing that it was once covered with forests.(Note: though the "waters" were massive in amount [and are what now constitutes the oceans], the "waters" could easily be seen through because they were in a hot vaporous state)
Ivan T. Sanderson (1911-73 C.E.) a biologist and writer born in Edinburgh, Scotland, having a Masters of Arts degree in botany and ethnology, in the The Saturday Evening Post of January 16, 1960, observed concerning the Berezovka mammoth: "The list of animals that have been thawed out of this mess (in Siberia) would cover several pages.........And there is where we get back to quick-freezing mammoths, for frozen-food experts have pointed out that to do this (or freeze an animal while alive, so that it is well preserved), starting with a healthy specimen, you would have to drop the temperature of the air surrounding it down to a point of well below minus - 150 degrees Fahrenheit (-101.1 degrees Celsius)", almost instantly.
And this is exactly what happened when the Global Deluge occurred, and in which Genesis 7:11 said that "in the 600th year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the 17th day of the month, on that day all the springs of the vast watery deep burst open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened."
The massive watery vapor that surrounded the earth (perhaps in the thermosphere, where temperatures can be over 4,000 degrees F.) was now condensed, congealed, and turned to sheets of rain, and in which the "floodwaters" at Genesis 6:17 literally can be rendered as "heavenly ocean" or in Hebrew., ham·mab·bul´, and remains to this day as our oceans.
Temperatures plunged so rapidly at or near the poles (or within the Arctic Circle) animals became frozen almost instantly, that what was once a temperate zone where animals of all types thrived in lush forests now suddenly became frozen.(Gen 7:6)
Yes most of these videos do touch on what you say.
There's still the question as to did all the gigantic dinosaurs walk among humans & did the flood cause their extinction & not a comet.
Was earth all one continent?
It's fascinating because I wonder how long it took for animals to repopulate the globe. Take the Amazon rainforest for example. All those animals must have walked or somehow had help to get from the ark to south America. God said we could eat meat. They must've reproduced fast before meat became the common human diet.
Still just so many unanswered questions
@@charlesloftin8768
Geologic strata or rock layers containing human fossils consistently occur above those layers containing dinosaur fossils. Because of this, scientists generally conclude that humans came on the earthly scene later. In this regard, the book Palaeontology (pub in 1973), by James Scott, states: “Even the earliest species of Homo sapiens (man) lived long after the disappearance of the dinosaurs . . . After tilting (through earth movement) has been allowed for, rocks containing fossil men consistently occur above those preserving the bones of the great dinosaur reptiles and it follows that the latter belong to an earlier age than the human remains.”
In the Red Deer River valley (in Saskatchewan, Canada), there is a layer of sedimentary rock that contains dinosaur bones. Just above this, there is a purplish-brown layer that follows the contour of the hillside. On top of the purplish-brown layer is a layer of brownish siltstone containing fossils of subtropical ferns, indicating a hot climate. Above this, there are several layers of coal. Farther up the hillside are coarser-grained layers of earth. There are no dinosaur bones in any of the higher layers.
The book A Vanished World: The Dinosaurs of Western Canada (pub in 1977 by Dale A. Russell) states that “all of the 11 major kinds of dinosaurs . . . ceased to exist in the western interior at about the same time.” This, and the fact that human bones have not been found with dinosaur bones, is why most scientists conclude that the Age of Dinosaurs ended before humans came on the scene.
However, it should be noted that there are some who say that dinosaur bones and human bones are not found together because dinosaurs did not live in areas of human habitation. Such differing views demonstrate that the fossil record does not yield its secrets so easily and that no one on earth today really knows all the answers.
Upon Noah leaving the ark in 2369 B.C.E., God (whose name is Jehovah, see Isa 12:2 KJV) gave man the right to eat meat and thus changed the instinctive desire of some creatures, like cats (or feline family), bears, dogs and some other animals to crave for raw meat, to have a taste for blood, to kill (or fight feverishly), that would protect themselves from being easy prey to man's yearning for meat, and with the addition that man was not to ' eat the blood ', but must "pour it out on the ground".(Gen 9:1-4; Lev 17:13)
When Jehovah God gave the Mosaic Law covenant in 1513 B.C.E. to the newly formed nation of Israel, he stipulated what kinds of animals that they could and could not eat.(see Leviticus chapter 11) And yes, there are many unanswered questions, but which some have no real merit for gaining everlasting life on a paradise earth, for Jesus said this in prayer to Jehovah God: "This means everlasting life, their coming to know you, the only true God, and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ."(John 17:3)
@tim haley. Thank you for your detailed explanation of our history. Praise the lord he has blessed you with knowledge to understand how he created everything including us. God bless you.
@@charlesloftin8768 what is this sense you are coming out with it's not welcome in these parts lol
How come we don’t find dinosaurs and mammoth fossils together?
Sedimention weight maybe??? Good question
Because witches weigh the same as a duck because they are made of wood.
@@nunyabisnass1141 😂😂🤣
Brian Randal says: *How come we don’t find dinosaurs and mammoth fossils together?*
Because mammoths were most likely established as a species after all the dinosaurs became extinct, if that is the case then you wouldn't find them together because mammoths wouldn't have been around during the flood, but they would've had a surviving ancestor onboard the Ark which would've allowed the mammoth species to come into existence via descending from that ancestor that was on the Ark.
cos they lived millions of years apart