What is the Light Travel-Time Problem? And what about the Big Bang? - Dr. Danny Faulkner
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- Опубликовано: 23 апр 2020
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Astronomer Danny Faulkner describes his solution to the light travel-time problem, then discusses many of the issues with Big Bang cosmology. Part of the "Beyond Is Genesis History?" series.
Dr. Danny Faulkner received his PhD in astronomy from Indiana University. He is distinguished Professor Emeritus at the University of South Carolina-Lancaster, where he taught astronomy and physics for over 26 years. Since January, 2013, he has been the staff astronomer at Answers in Genesis in northern Kentucky.
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Sometimes it's hard to experience this current experience without experiencing an overwhelming experience of the miraculous.
I liked the thought that we are connected with the ancients looking at the same stars. That’s neat!
Ook goed Ken Zwetser
Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain. Psalm 104:2
Amen!!!! This was powerful!!!
Thank you for your work. 30 years ago I believed in an old earth and universe. I believed in ancient fossils. I tried to fit scripture into my world view. I mean, why would God try to fool us? Now I know that I was the fool. I had been fooled by secular “science”. I now know I must make science fit my Biblical view. Everything works better if we believe what God has told us. Thank you for revealing this too me. Ha, I used to think I was so smart....
Listen my friend i think God never had the intension to fool anybody , he just wanted from us to get to know him , respect him and anknowledge him as our creator .
On the other hand there are things we still discovering to this day and that is exactly why a channel like this is so precious , we are still learning more and more each day about our world and what occured on it . I am not saying that we shall discard the bible altogether , i am just saying it was written on another era for a different audience with different comprehension capacity than ours in such a way that the meaning was simplified for them to understand .
I am sure God could give us full tutorial of what is out there , distances , ways to travel , ways to live a better life in a single book , but i am afraid that nobody would be able to handle it so he had to give it to us with examples .
Remember Jesus was talking to people with examples all the time but they only got to believe him after he made few miracles . Now take that from another perspective for a moment ...if he was able to do miracles that means he was superior to us , both mentally and physically , he was smarter than the average person , he was calm and humbled , loved by his followers and the apostels ...was he a human ? How many people do we know able to be like that ?
Do you think you could recognize him if he was to walk among us today ? i think not but what you think personally would give away his true identity to us ?
Would you follow him blindly from the moment he appeared before you and asked you to do so the same way he asked from Peter and Paul ?
Whoever was Jesus really had extra abilities and one of them was telepathy , all the Apostels felt it within he is the real deal ...as if their instinct tells them "go with him" and we know the rest .
Now with all that been said with your mind and heart at it tell me honestly , do you think if he wanted to do so wouldn't he able to avoid been crucified ? He certainly had the intelligence and power to do so but he didn't . Why ?
The answer to that is simple to me , he knew that he was the only one who could pay the price for our sins with his blood , otherwise God would unleash his wrath upon us and wipe us from the face of the earth forever for good .
Again we get to see he was thinking in a wider scale than we do , understanding the bigger picture of humanity as a total
but also we get to see he wasn't a normal human being ...
I will live you with that material to think about . Peace
George Isaak Sorry, but I don’t see the point you’re trying to make.
As for Jesus being a human, yes, he was. Everything He did, He said, He perceived was given to Him by Our Father. We could do anything Jesus did IF we had the solid faith that Jesus had. Now I might concede that Jesus had a bit of an advantage being God’s only son and all. But the disciples, later the apostles, could do the same things. That’s because it’s the Holy Spirit that does it, not you. So, yes, Jesus was a human in every respect. He had to be else He couldn’t be a legitimate example of what is possible. He had to be in order to make the perfect sacrifice. The Bible testifies to this fact.
So, now that we have that straightened out, what was the rest of your comment intending to convey?
@@Unborn-Lives-Matter Okay ! Thank you for replying !
George Isaak Hey, no problem! It’s what I do. Well, not all that I do...
Blessings my friend.
Jajaja me too.I thought I was smart
I'm glad I found this channel. Fascinating stuff. I like the passion in these peoples eyes as they let us in on what they have learned. Brilliance. It lights things up.
What is your favorite subject on young earth creation? I can direct you to some more you may like
@@YoungEarthCreation Please show some links to your materials. I would love to learn more. God Bless!
@@teresas8690 let me know if this link works docs.google.com/document/d/1UTuACFnZvvQm9TvfraWTFQ8ZpxNUSLlImRtqxIWsVrQ/edit
@@teresas8690 ok 👌 I hope it posted. Not sure if channel allows links but I posted a doc to tons of my work. It’s an old link now so my newest books are not in it. I’ll update it today for ya
@@YoungEarthCreation Thanks for replying. I do not see any links. I just clicked on your name and it took me to your channel. Right now I'm watching: Biblical Longevity! It's a good one.
Im so glad i found this channel!! What a beautiful site to see.
@Richard Fox turn on the sirens, we got a copper on our grammer! 🤣🤣🤣
@Richard Fox 👀👀 with the eye balls. 😅🤣🤣 I think, I made this comment awile ago so I really couldn't tell ya🤣 maybe I was saying site like a web site
Chuck Missler explains this in a great way also.
He was a great man, may he rest in peace. 🙏🙏🙏
@@patldennis
I take it you have trouble believing in miracles
@@patldennis can 14.5 billion years ago be demonstrated?
@@patldennis I said years… not miles but I see it can’t. Another win for me 😉
It's very simple. There are no laws of physics during creation. Man was created to live for ever. The speed of light and the laws that govern it, began when Man sinned and brought death & decay to all of Creation.
See. Simple ... and complete.
The secret things belong to the LORD! Those that He has revealed to us belong to us.
The heavens declare His MAJESTY!
The universe isn't there to tell us where we came from but to prove to us how GREAT YAHWEH IS! He is tipping His hand to us so we are left with no excuse to deny Him
AMEN! “For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them. For the invisible things of Him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even His eternal power and Godhead; so that THEY ARE WITHOUT EXCUSE: Because that, when they knew God, they glorified Him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.” - Romans 1:18-21
Praise our Lord Jesus Christ, YHVH manifest in the flesh, who was in the world, AND THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew Him not, John 1:10. Our Lord Jesus Christ, the Word of YHVH, through whom ALL THINGS, both visible and invisible, were created. Jesus Christ is the firstborn over all creation, which does NOT mean Jesus Christ was a created being, but rather that Jesus Christ existed as the 2nd member of the Godhead, the Word, before any of creation existed. The Godhead defined in 1 John 5:7, with all 3 members present in Genesis 1, “For there are THREE who bear witness in Heaven: the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost; and THESE THREE ARE ONE”. In Genesis 1 we have the Spirit of YHVH moving over the waters, the Father creating everything through His Word, and in Genesis 1:26 the triune nature of the Godhead working together in unity to create man in the image of YHVH, “Let US make man in OUR image”, and so man is triune in nature like YHVH, being the visible body that makes our invisible soul and spirit known to others. Jesus Christ is the visible body of flesh in whom the invisible Father and invisible Holy Ghost dwell.
We can see and have a relationship with our Heavenly Father and the Holy Ghost only through the visible image of YHVH who is Jesus Christ, the Word made flesh. To deny Jesus Christ is God, YHVH, manifest visibly in the flesh, is to deny the Father and Holy Ghost are God. That’s why all who deny Jesus Christ is God, the I AM of Exodus 3:14, will die in their sins, John 8:24. Why the triune Godhead? Because by the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses, it shall be established, Deuteronomy 19:15, 2 Corinthians 13:1, Matthew 18:16. As 1 John 5:7 says, THESE THREE, Father, Word, and Holy Ghost, BEAR WITNESS in Heaven. When mankind stands before Jesus Christ in judgement, we will be standing before the Father and Holy Ghost IN CHRIST in judgement as well. These 3 witnesses testify to our eternal salvation at the Bema seat of Christ for those who received Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, or these 3 will testify to the eternal damnation of those who rejected Jesus Christ when the unsaved stand before Jesus Christ at the White Throne Judgement. Jesus Christ asks the same question to us all, “Who do YOU say that I am?”. For those who are born again believers in Christ, we say Christ is the visible incarnation of the Holy and eternal living God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, YHVH manifest in the flesh as the Son, the VISIBLE IMAGE, of the living God. Jesus Christ is YHVH incarnate.
God said to Moses, “Is anything too hard for the Lord” the magnitude of the heavens proves it. Wow.
Or maybe the Bible does not tell how the heavens go but how to go to heaven.
im pretty sure the verse youre quoting in deuteronomy 29:29 (or 29:28?) continues to say "and the revealed matters are for us and our children so that we can uphold all the words of this torah forever", doesnt that imply that the commandments the israelites were given were given to be kept forever? doesnt that contradict everything paul wrote?
@@Yehonatan613 I'm not sure what part of Paul's words you are referring to as contradictions. But Paul was sent to the Gentiles, who were not Israelites, not under the Torah laws. That's y the Jerusalem council decided that the law of circumcision didn't apply to the converted gentiles, only laws about blood & strangulation if I remember correctly. & theres mention about not condemning those who do not hold the same religious practices
I hope this thing stays online. I can't be up at 2AM just to watch it.
It's suppose to hit
NASA knew about it years ago and they ain't telling us
I'm watching this at 1:56am. I have to be asleep by 2am. What a coincidence.
It's still here TK
Great explanations and examples! It is important to understand the physical, but eventually you have to go back to the miraculous.
Not really weather you know the physical or not the universe will still continue to do what it’s doing weather u understand it or not so it not really important that we know anything about the universe
this is help me a lot about what i'm doing rn..so thankyou so much for the explanation.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR WORK AND INSIGHTS! Blessings!
The concept of rapid maturing discussed in this video could also be a possible way of making geology compatible with young earth creationism.
I have studied geology myself, and I know that the earth appears to be old. Which, on the other hand, of course is no proof that it actually is. But that is how it seems to be, when we study the different kinds of rock formations. The concept of rapid maturing opens up the perspective that several billion years worth of geological history could play out in just a few minutes or hours during Creation.
Just look at the Mt St. Helen eruption for an example.
There are trees standing up through "hundreds or thousands" years of strata.
The heavens declare the glory of God!
@@michaeljameson6468 Psalm 90:2
Verse Concepts
Before the mountains were born
Or You gave birth to the earth and the world,
Even from everlasting to everlasting, You are God.
The Bible says He stretches out the heavens. Red shift
@@michaeljameson6468 My friend, with respect, you are making a logical category error. God is a Supernatural Being, and it is just illogical to require a "Natural" explanation for a Supernatural being. God is *pre-existent* and He created the laws of nature (Jeremiah 33:25) including time, space, and matter itself - He needs no creator. Actually it's the atheist that has a problem here, because the atheist needs to indefinitely pass the buck backwards to some other natural cause, which contradicts the laws of nature.
*Given that there is no known physical process which can produce metaphysical laws that govern nature, how do you explain the origin of the laws of nature which suspiciously give precise mathematical order to our universe and which enable "science" in the first place?*
*"This is what the Lord says: ‘If I have not made my covenant with day and night and established the laws of heaven and earth..."* (Jeremiah 33:25)
"The evidence of God.... has been clearly seen since the beginning in all that has been created, so they will have no excuse" (Romans 1:20)
@@michaeljameson6468 My friend, this is a matter of competing worldviews over the exact same evidence, and your belief in a billions of years old universe is based on internally inconsistent and self-invalidating atheistic-Naturalist assumptions, and you can't just hide behind ""it's unexplainable, at least for now" (ie. "we just don't know yet, but atheism is still true") because that requires you to *Very Unscientifically* ignore the evidence that we do have. For example, *did you know that atheistic-Naturalists unavoidably have to invoke Supernatural phenomena in order to "naturally" (atheistically) explain our universe, most of them just aren't aware of it?*
The first law of thermodynamics doesn't allow energy to come into existence from nothing. The 2nd law of thermodynamics doesn't allow energy to remain usable forever. If the universe can't have a beginning, and if it can't last forever, then how do you "naturally" explain the beginning of the universe? Atheistic-Naturalists have no choice but to invoke *supernatural* phenomena that supersede our observable laws of nature: *Infinite* alternate universes, an *eternal self-existent* singularity, alternate *unobservable* metaphysical laws of nature, or a "quantum fluctuation" that causes entire universes to pop into existence which requires space-time to be *pre-existent* . *This is the amoral atheist God: Infinite, eternal, pre-existent, unobservable...*
The only way for nature to create itself is if nature is *pre-existent* (a Supernatural quality).
And it is on this "supernatural" foundation that atheistic-Naturalists assert that everything in the unobservable past must be "Naturally" explainable. They claim everything is only "natural" and extrapolate that assumption backwards an incredible 14 billion years, but then begin to invoke Super-Natural solutions at the foundation of their worldview. Atheistic-Naturalists invalidate their own "natural" assumptions, and therefore every theory they fabricated based on those assumptions (evolution, big bang, abiogenesis, etc.). Internal inconsistency is a sign of a faulty worldview. Internal inconsistency is an atheistic-Naturalist (evolutionist) problem, not a problem for a biblical worldview.
Supernatural God + Supernatural Creation Event = Internally Consistent, and *all of the best evidences of evolution can also be explained by Genesis 1-12.*
And you can't hide behind "we just don't know the answers yet and that's okay" - because *we do know.* The laws of nature actively point to the beginning of the universe being a "natural" impossibility, so in order to assert "we just don't know yet" you have to actively ignore the evidence in blind hope of finding a more atheist-friendly explanation later on. That's cognitive bias.
GotQuestions .org for any honest researcher who really wants honest answers to difficult Bible questions, 650k+ questions answered and counting.
@@michaeljameson6468 That's because you put your faith in the modern myth that fish evolve into philosophers, and you just ignored a lot of evidence. As for which God is correct, you have to evaluate the worldview based on criteria including internal inconsistency, can it explain what it ought to, does it have a history of radical ad-hoc readjustment, and is it existentially viable (ie. can you live it out in reality)? These are 4 clear tests for an irrational worldview - all of them are a problem for atheistic-Naturalism. None of them are a problem for a biblical worldview. For example, since you value math and science, *If it's true that the earth is billions of years old, then how do you explain the problem of the Faint Young Sun Paradox?*
Scientists measure that the sun is slowly warming up from the fusion of hydrogen into helium in the sun's core. If you extrapolate that rate backwards 3.5 billion years into the past then the sun would have been 25%-30% fainter and the average global temperature on earth would have been -2C. It is in this hostile environment that atheistic-Naturalists assert abiogenesis must have happened... life created itself from non-life in a global, dead, frozen environment.
*"Liquid water is generally considered a key ingredient for life. When the Sun was much fainter, the Earth with its present atmospheric composition would have been frozen solid. If the oceans were frozen, life may not have formed" (Quote: NASA).*
Secular scientists have tried to invoke a number of farfetched explanations for this. For example, they used to believe that we must have had an early methane atmosphere that caused a greenhouse warming effect, and this greenhouse warming effect miraculously dissipated in perfect inverse proportion to the gradual warming of the sun over the last 3.5 billion years... Some scientists still try to invoke a "massive atmospheric greenhouse effect" solution, such as NASA's claim that "the planet was pummeled by primordial asteroids - some larger than 100 kilometers in diameter - impacts would melt large volumes of rock, creating temporary lakes of lava..." (NASA), etc. ....but the problem is that there is *NO evidence* of an early greenhouse gas atmosphere in our geologic record that would suffice to resolve this problem, and regardless it still *would have had to dissipate in perfect inverse proportion to the warming of the sun...* two celestially separate systems working together in tandem perfectly, just warm enough, for just a long enough period of time, to accidentally just happen to create all the right conditions for life, so that life could miraculously create itself from non-life.
NASA has also tried to invoke a number of incredibly farfetched celestial solutions that miraculously warmed up the earth just enough for life to create itself, such as massive solar storms that "aided in creating molecules in Earth's atmosphere that allowed it to warm up enough to incubate life" (NASA). Another version is that 4 +/- billion years ago a bunch of giant meteors impacted the earth releasing greenhouse gases and warming up the earth. The problem is that this relatively catastrophic warming would have had to have been just right to warm it up enough to allow all the right proteins required for life to form themselves (think about that for a second) and then this warming effect would also have had to persist and slowly dissipate over the next 3.5 billion years to allow that initial "life" to continue "living." *It is a true unscientific atheistic-Naturalist miracle that a completely unrelated, separate cosmological warming mechanism occurred just for the sake of making atheistic-abiogenesis and evolution possible.* Significantly, there is NO observable evidence for any of these secular "scientific" claims.
Of course, there is another solution that atheistic-Naturalists won't even consider: the earth simply isn't billions of years old, because God said He created it approximately 6000-7000 years ago. That explains why there is no evidence for any of these secular atheistic-Naturalist "solutions," and it also resolves the problem of how life "naturally" formed itself (it didn't miraculously form itself - God created life). This worldview also better handles the evidence such as how information always has an Intelligent Source and DNA contains mass quantities of instructions in it (ie. God is the Intelligent Source for the info in DNA). This also explains why we all live as if we are meaningful, valuable human beings with "rights," "morality," and as if we deserve respect, because we were made in God's image and likeness (Genesis 1:27) - rather than living as if we are meaningless evolved protoplasm in a meaningless chemical universe with no purpose destined to die a meaningless chemical death.
"The evidence of God... has been clearly seen since the beginning in all that has been created, so they will have no excuse" (Romans 1:20).
Does anyone ever think about the fact that all the planets, stars and moon's need to have the right speed to escape Gravity and not float away or bump into each other?
Thank you for explaining this. God bless you
wowwwwww..this is so eye opening..
God Bless You
I felt the same way when I heard this back in 2008.
40 years without knowing the alternative theories.
I fully agree with scripture as written now.
Thank you for this very straightforward explanation. Bail ó Dhia ar an obair, Jim
Anyone know where the long list of scientists who oppose the Big Bang Theory that's used in this video can be found? I don't see any references for the articles mentioned in the video anywhere.
Que vídeo incrível, obrigado Dr. Faulkner, sou muito fã.
"About the times of the End, a body of men will be raised up who will turn their attention to the prophecies, and insist upon their literal interpretation, in the midst of much clamor and opposition.” - Isaac Newton
Very true! Bad lenz gives bad sight!
I love you, Dr Faulkner The way you're solving "the problem" reckons with the sensibility of miraculous REALITIES! Miracles are just as valid for the Producer to use as any other method that ONLY HE can execute! We may observe many of them, and even quantify them--but ONLY HE can do them!
15:10 What you didn't mention is, it was rejected in two ways : by Heliocentrics, but also by Tychonian Heliocentrism.
Tycho's disciple Kepler changed two things : 1) he was Heliocentric, 2) he considered the orbits more or less elliptic.
Now, what the last main Geocentric did - his name was Giovanni Battista Riccioli - was to keep Kepler's ellipses, but revert to Tychonian overall geometry.
Once all epicycles (except those of minor bodies like Io or Phobos) had the Sun as epicentre of one elliptic focus, it works (except for the quirks of Mercury, discussed by Einstein).
Does anybody knows what kind of flashlight is Dr.Faulkner using at the beginning?
Interesting picture of creation. I am reminded of the dry bones vision in Ezekiel 37. Maybe similar?
You can see the light because it has been traveling sense the expansion began. Those stars, and galaxies might not even exist anymore, but the light from them is still does, and is still arriving here. . The time problem is with the earth only being a few thousand years old. You might argue that it's only millions of years old, but even this is a stretch considering the evidence that it's billions of years old is overwhelming. . Yes!, there are problems with those that ignore all evidence to maintain an unfounded belief.
This was great. God bless
As for the plants, the ground wasn't cursed until The Fall. So before that (like during creation), the soil was perfect and blessed.
What is the Light Travel-Time Problem? It's when you can only carry one small carry on and your plane gets delayed on the tarmac for hours. With a the passenger sitting behind you two year old screaming nonstop and the old guy seated next to you spent the prior three hour hold over in the airports cocktail lounge drinking Heineken beer and JD shots while chowing down on the all-you-can-eat chili special.
My light travel time problem was - one drunk dickhead delayed our 9 hour flight to Tokyo for one extra hour and I didn't get an aisle seat, which was occupied by sleeping elderly Asian couple.
The earth became chaotic .
The speed of light has changed several times,
But none of the tests were about how fast the Light cones on. They were all about atmospheric capacitation-emmission speed of light absorption and distribution.
What telescope are you using for this video?
This is a great video! But who thinks they look uncomfortably close together? 😂
I have one question...can God speak into existence a universe exactly like the one we have today fully functioning? Can He or can’t He? He doesn’t need to gradually do anything. He can speak into existence a star, and have light appear at every edge of the universe at that same instance faster than the speed of light. He doesn’t need 6 days to do anything, or gradually take a day to make a plant. Quit trying to limit Gods ability. All you have to say God said it, I believe it. Don’t look for a reason to doubt what the Bible says. I know you have given credit to God for making the universe, just makes me mad that people try to offer an explanation for God.
When you play make-believe, you can make whatever rules you want. That is what's great about make-believe.
Yes, God can do anything in any way He sees fit. And the Bible is clear that He choose to create this world in an orderly and consistant way.
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God can choose to do anything he wants. But he is perfect and will always do things in his own timeframe.
I know that genesis says that the earth lay formless and waste...so the earth could be millions or billions of yrs old before creation started.
The bible says that a thousand years with jah are a thousand years and a thousand years as one day.
It also states that on the 7th day God rested, and later in romans its says that God continues in his rest day...which shows the creation periods could have been 7000 years each.
Either way, they were not 24 hour periods. God doesn't work on earth time...the whole universe is on his time
Of course God can create the Universe in a blink of an eye. He had his reason for a 6 day creation ... which includes the Big Bang..
These guys are trying to explain the speed of light dilemma with Creation, ... when the answer far simpler.
There are no laws of physics during Creation. Man was created to live for ever. Creation was carried out by God in God's realm, with God's laws only apply.
There is no Time ... in the Spirit realm. But God chose to use 6 days to Created the Universe, Earth & mankind.
Remember, God knows man will sin, and he knews every single person that will be conceived during the 6 000 years of Man's Reign, and of the Millennium Reign before Judgement Day.
We we die ..... we leave the Physical realm with its laws of physics ... and enter the Spirit Realm where there is no Time as we know it. You actually got straight to Judgement Day in the future, when you die. This is why Jesus said, you must be prepared for his return ... as we do not know the day & time .... we will die.
Believers still alive after the Tribulation, will be called up with the Believers who had died to Heaven to be with Jesus. But Jesus is returning then for the 1000 year reign over the non believing survivors of the Tribulation. How can we join Jesus in Heaven when Jesus will be ruling the Earth for a 1000 years. Simple. There is not time in Heaven. So when we go to Heaven to be with Jesus, we going 1000 years into the future to be with him.
See how simply this explanation for the light seen from distant stars is. There are no laws of physics ... in God's Zone.
God created the Universe with the Big Bang. But God created the Earth first in a vast empty dark space ... with no laws of physics. The BB is "Let there be light" that shone immediately on the Earth ... 10's or 100's of millions on light years apart.
By the 4th day of creation, the rapidly expanding Universe reached and surrounded Earth, and then God slowed the expansion to set the Stars in the skies, then made the Sun, moon and planet to set them in their orbits.
Again. There is no time in God's realm, but he chose to create the Heavens & the Earth in 6 days. God's plan for his Creation is all making sense ... once you know the science. lol.
The Father does not require you to understand how He created everything He does not hold science test to get into heaven. It does not matter to Him if you are a flat earther or a round worlder The Father judges depending on faith and The Knowledge and practice of righteousness
That's true, but we are curious creatures and it's good to have answers to the challenges we get from non-believers especially since schools are indoctrinating our kids into believing that a belief in God is ridiculous based on the science.
True, but the Bible also says:
But sanctify the Lord God in your hearts, and always be ready to give a defense to everyone who asks you a reason for the hope that is in you, with meekness and fear. 1 Peter 3:15
For some people this will require first to let them see we don't believe in a fairytale as evolutionism tries to make it seem like.
And yes, God gave us a curious mind to search after His ways and dealings.
@@eldin0074 you just quoted 1st Peter... Everyone that asks you the reason for the hope... This doesn't seem to be saying that we need to have an answer to every question that anybody unbeliever can throw at us. Rather verse 12 says, For the eyes of the Lord are over the righteous, and his ears are open unto their prayers: but the face of the Lord is against them that do evil.
1 Peter 3:12 ... And so we are to sanctify the Lord in our hearts as verse 15 requires. So we are told what God is doing in verse 12 and we are told what we are to be doing in verse 15. The sacrifice of Jesus Christ enables us to be that which God is looking for in verse 12... And so our hope is that the sacrifice of Jesus Christ enables us to be righteous to God just like in verse 12...
The belief in flat earth or globe will matter a great deal when they tell us that "aliens" (fallen angels) have come to the earth to bring about the golden age. The globe earth is as true as evolution.
He says that when it comes down to it there's no possible way we can or ever will know all the ways of him.
But despite what people think there's a lot more there than what they realize such as saying that the circle of the earth floats upon nothing...... Israelites circumcised babies on the 8th day, why? It wasn't realized until the 20th century that the blood clotting agent and/or the vitamin k is at its highest on your eighth Day of life than it ever will be in your life. Coincidence? Or being told specifically to keep swine completely separated from bird such as chickens, well before they knew anything about the bird flu or microscopic viruses.
It describes perfectly the entire cycle of water from the oceans to the clouds to The Rivers..... And the list goes on.... In fact most inventions today are because of exactly what the Bible says, look at the amazing Creation in the world today, which is exactly what we do and we mimic it...... And it always proves to be the best solutions, whether it's aerodynamics from watching various birds, or coming up with the strongest glues by understanding muscles on Ocean rocks, to using sonar just like bats for submarines.....etc..... He's given us far more than we can imagine to prove that he is far beyond a belief, or religion, in fact he's even far beyond science as we know it.
The way I look at all things first to me it's like looking under a car hood when you rise the hood an look what it takes to make engine run correctly you will also notice that everything in an around the engine to make it run if you take a few parts out it no longer runs like it should so I know everyone thinks that crazy but to me it's simple everything everywhere needs each other to work correct like a clock
This is one of many beautiful videos produced in the series, "Beyond Is Genesis History." I bought the entire digital set about a year ago. Please don't anyone get mad at me, but I am no longer a Young Earth Creationist, but I remain a creationist - an Old Earth Creationist which is not theistic evolutionist either. Even so, I found that by far, most of the information in these videos are accepted by both YECs and OECs, and so we share far more in common than some folks want us to think. We should not divide over the age of the universe.
GEEEZE this is hilarious!!!!!!!
My thought on this is related to the Inverse Square Law. In Genesis the word says God created the greater light to rule the day and the lesser light to rule the night and the stars also.... but most people do not take into consideration the very next verse. Where it says God set them in the expanse of the heavens.... so first He made them, all there in one place, then He set them in their place. Just like the inverse square law says the further away a light source is it becomes smaller. I made my own video to talk about this - though it is crude compared to this documentary lol - but the light was already here then moved out. It moved rapidly like an instant but if you turn on a flashlight and move it far away you still see the light, it just gets smaller but you still see the light without ceasing. Even if it moves millions of lightyears away, being the source is so large and bright.
I don't wish to be rude, but your understanding of physics is poor. There is no evidence that the speed of light has change over the last 10 billion years, and (unless you believe in magic) the time it takes photons to reach us is directly related to the object's distance from us, so the ONLY way we can see an object 3 million light years away is for the universe to be at least 3 million years old to give the photons lime to get here. There are objects billions of light years away, and they show that the universe is many billions of years old, otherwise we would not, could not see them. Why can we not see objects 50 billion light years away? Answer, the universe is not old enough for photons to travel that far.....by the time they do, the expansion of space/time will leave the photons so stretched they will be radio waves, not visible light.
Great video. How great and inspiring is our G-d!
Around 6:00
When I think what the “bringing forth the light” as Danny says, and what that would look like from an Earth perspective, I can see why this would be described as stretching out the heavens in the Bible.
In my Church we have a creed. "I believe in God, the father almighty, creator of heaven and earth" And in Jesus Christ his only begotten son our Lord". So our focus is on Christ. Not how or how long creation have been around. (Thank God =) So as long as I believe God created everything, I am not a heretic. I am not required to believe on the process he chose to do it.
Hi Norm, salvation is fundamental. And you can be saved and believe in billions of years (I don't deny that), but if we take scripture as it is written, the billions of years do not fit the Biblical and Creation account. Also these secular scientists are not there to help us. Why try to incorporate what they believe (the wisdom of this world which is foolishness)... we don't need their approval... through the trash out.
@@opindras.bangerh129 You are automatically assuming the billions year universe is wrong. There wasn't even a agreement with jews on what we now call a old testament today around Christ's time. Most people agree that the "Days" in Genesis was not literal days but long eras. If you think about it, how could there be "days" before "days" were ever created? So you have to re-think your thinking and read scripture again. Everything in Scripture is about Christ. Who cares about about the length of the creation periods?
Well said.
@The Study When I go to Lk. Michigan and fish out a beautiful rock with fossils in it. I know things have been around more them 6000 years. The fossils are sea fossils. Not fresh water. It has been a long time ago the area was ocean. It took a very long time for those fossils to be laid down. It took a long time for those slabs of rock to break apart. It took a long time for them to be polished round and beautiful.
Nobody said your are.
Six day creation with a solid firmament vault holding back the heavenly ocean psalm 148:4
Actually, "firmamanet" is a terrible translation. A much better translation is "expanse." This speaks of both the invisible expanse of our atmosphere, above which are the clouds (waters above the heavens) and also the invisible expanse of outer space, in the midst of which are the sun, moon, and stars (God placed them in the expanse of the heavens). The Biblical text does not contradict scientific truths if it is translated correctly.
@@zachh5431 Very well said that is the proper translation
The earth is a sphere and hangs in the heavens on nothing you must have missed this in the bible
@@zachh5431 it's scientific truth we came from a monkey...
@@samurai90519 🤣🤣
Go back to the jungle then
Any one have the link to those signatures?
There is no dilation of measurable time or distance without first the formation of matter.
Kenny Rogers was into astronomy ?
Yep. He knew when to hold them and when to fold them.
@@rbtjgonzalez he took advice from a man, who could not afford one swig of whiskey nor one cigarette.....hmmm...
For any Human to try and understand or explain How God Created is like expecting an Ant to try and explain How an Airplane works. That is why Faith is so important. Faith is that which is hoped for without the evidence that it is true. Here we are, tiny individual Humans who can't even explain ourselves yet some believe they know How Creation worked in only six days? In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was God. God said it, I believe it. I'll have eternity to come to an understanding when God shows me Himself after the Second Coming and the Resurrection. That's good enough for me. In the meantime, I look with my Telescope as the Heavens declare the Glory of God and on this Earth, the Firmament Sheweth His handywork.
well said
what a balanced, sober comment.
the best explanation so far
I have a question. How is the distance to these stars measured.
very beautiful presentation, thank you!
i may add that even tho i tend to believe another creationist model that explains the light travel time problem, i find Danny's arguments compelling
Which do you find compelling?
@@eldin0074 where he says that perhaps this needs a miraculous explanation, because it is dealing with a creation event
@@stefan-rarescrisan5116 i mean which other you find compelling
@@eldin0074 the White Hole Theory, somewhat the opposite of a Black Hole
@@stefan-rarescrisan5116 Ah yeah, read about that I find it a bit far fetched. If you;re interested you should check out the videos by Barry Setterfield about his plasma cosmology and exponential increasing ZPE. I think he has a very profound balance between the supernatural interventions by God, which are evident, and complying to factual science because God has ordered the laws of physics into existence and He would construct these laws to work according to His premeditated will, also during creation as soon as a law of physics was called to the scene. God bless you!
6:55 then why have any science if everything can just be some kind of miracle?
You didn't listen carefully or maybe at all.
@coleen mitchell Nobody said the universe came from nothing. Scientists just agree that we currently don't know what happened before the Big Bang.
Occam's Razor leans to a universe without God starting it because God just adds another layer to the question since then you have to question where God came from. If God didn't need a start, why does the universe?
@@rbtjgonzalez I believe you dont understand what Occam's Razor entails? It means the solution with the least number of required entities AND the least number of ASSUMPTIONS that explains a fenomenon EQUALLY.
Well, the secular solution entails an ever growing number of assumptions and it's getting worse in explaining anything as more facts become known...
@coleen mitchell It doesn't take more faith to believe in the science taught today. The problem is that not all that's being taught as Science is real testable, repeatable, falsifiable, empirical Science. It is masquerading as Science. Speculation and conjecture by scientists is too often accepted as proven fact when indeed, as you know, it too often is NOT.
There is a difference between empirical experimental science and sensational speculation and conjecture which cannot be empirically tested. It is this latter which I.D. proponents expose. Have you noticed that I.D. proponents never question Science which has been rigorously tested and has passed the tests of repeatability and falsifiability, the hallmarks of the empirical, true Scientific process.
I.D. is not "anti-science" as those who obfuscate would have you believe. I.D. are calling out those who take license beyond that which is scientifically determinable.
Is the interpretation of 6 actual days of creation vs. 6 symbolic days the problem for YECS? Couldn't the 6 to 7 thousands year timeline start on the seventh day of creation, right after Adam and Eve. Who may have been created at the very end of day 6.
The light travel time problem has been troubling me for some time (no pun intended). Like many others I have sought for a physical explanation. The most popular one I have come across is the solution offered by Dr. Russ Humphrey’s. However, you basically need a Ph.D. in physics to understand it. I for one cannot visualize 4 dimensional space-time. Thankfully you touched on something in this video that got me to thinking. If God created things via rapid physical process could it be that the speed of light was much faster in the past? Could light from distant objects have traveled faster to us than light from nearby objects? Could this provide insight into the redshift patterns we see from distant galaxies? I would love to get your input. Thanks!
I favored Dr. Humphries model for many years after reading his 1994 book "Starlight and Time." My recall of tensor calculus was a little rusty, but I was able to basically follow his equations. Unfortunately, Dr. Jason Lisle dismisses Dr. Humphries' model for reasons I have yet to learn. Dr. Lisle (correctly, I believe) dismisses other proposed solutions as well, such as the created light path, a variable speed of light, and the great galactic distances being merely illusory. I have great respect for both of these men and Dr. Faulkner as well. Dr. Lisle's proposed solution is centered around the lack of a measurement for the one-way speed of light. Laboratory measurements of the speed of light involve measuring the "round-trip" time to cover a known distance, so technically, we only know the average speed. So his proposed solution hangs on the very, very thin thread of the idea that light travels at 299,752 km/s in one direction and has infinite velocity in the other. I find it difficult to believe that he might actually believe this to be possible, because so many known constants and equations in physics depend on this very precise speed of light that if it were very much different - in any direction - atomic structures would disintegrate and the universe would be a very, very strange place - not to mention that life would not exist for us to even consider this question. So, unless some other satisfactory solution is discovered, it seems that the distant starlight problem is fatal to the young universe model. That does not mean that one must adopt Darwinian evolution as an alternative to special creation, as there are many Christian scholars and scientists (in fact the majority of them) who reject Darwin, in spite of believing the the universe is billions of years old. A good resource to explore is Reasons To Believe. This ministry has a RUclips channel as well as a website.
@@Chazd1949 So do you now reject Humphries’ solution and believe in billions of years? I read the book and his answer seems plausible. However, the math is too complicated for me. I like the idea that the speed of light was much faster during creation week, but that’s just pure speculation. Given the weakness of the other theories it seems the Humphries’ model (or something similar) is currently the best scientific option. Although the more I analyze the problem the more I tend to regard it as a miracle and accept it by faith. For example, there is no way you can scientifically explain how Moses parted the Red Sea, how Jesus turned water into wine, or how Lazarus was raised from the dead. Perhaps no scientific explanation is needed.
Danny Faulkner is great! He was a great addition to the Creation Guy's videos about the flat earth movement and Genesis: Paradise Lost.
Look at Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. 2. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. Please specifically notice that God’s very first creative words on the first “day” of the seven-day Creation Week do not begin until Genesis 1:3. There is nothing in this verse about God creating the earth or the Universe on the first day. In Job 38, God is speaking to an afflicted man named Job about many aspects of what God did when He first created the earth and the entire Universe. He says to Job: “Where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth?…Who laid the measures thereof?…Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? Or who laid the corner stone thereof; when the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy?” God speaks of making the clouds in verse 9, setting the boundaries of the oceans in verses 8-12, and there is a reference to polar icecaps in verses 29-30 where the “waters” of “the deep” are “frozen.” In verse 33, God asks Job if he knows about the “ordinances” (laws) of heaven? In other words, God asks Job if he knows about the laws of the Universe which govern its movements and its composition. It is very important to note that God Himself said that when he first created the earth, he made it NOT “in vain,” and that he formed it to “be inhabited.” Job 38’s account indicates that when the earth was created, it was so beautiful the “morning stars” sang and the “sons of God” shouted for joy! Whoever the “morning stars” and “sons of God” were, would they have sung and shouted for joy if the earth was originally created as a dark, flooded, lifeless place as Genesis 1:2?
So fascinating.
I truly want to understand this
..can someone explain what is light years and how the light years is connected to how we can determine how old the universe can be... please
A light year is a measure of distance. The distance light travels in one earth year is 5,878,625,370,000 miles.
I believe God made everything and God made it look old or mature. Humor my examples. Hypo 1 Assume Adam died two days after his creation. CSI Eden is called. The body is examined. The report would say adult male, not two day old infant male. Hypo 2 Adam cuts a large oak tree down (again - humor me). Does the tree have no rings? 1 ring? multiple rings? If Adam was created old, if trees were created older, then why be surprised that the Universe looks older too.
Very reasonable thoughts.......one thing to remember regarding the stars and light is that the speed of light is slowing down and quite likely was MANY times faster at the time of creation.
Hmmmmm...... interesting......
Could it be more about Godless, fake arsed $cience.....?
@AlienLifeForms1
Irony from someone called AlienLifeForms.
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imho there are two kind of scientific fields:
- applied science: chemistry, engines, computers, etc
and theoretic sciences which in part are just beating around the bush , giving all kind of theories that , oh no,conveniently change every some years or so, with lots of phd's getting paid a lot ...
@@ahope4u2 Who told you light is slowing down? They were mistaken.
Whoever is reading this no matter how bad the situation looks like. God is always with you. Have faith in God alone. He will rescue you from the health condition, financial issues, depression and loss
@AlienLifeForms1 Yes, God is omnipresent and sees everything and your conclusion is childish and perverted. Lying about God's character in a sophomoric attempt to appear clever or funny is the mark of a corrupted intellect.
@@TheMickeymental ...not to be confused with an omnipotent, omniscient being that has an ego problem so he makes everybody worship him so that he can reaffirm to himself he is worth it. For an all-powerful being, he sure has some inferiority complex issues.
@@rbtjgonzalez What you have stated is not possible. It is not ever the topic if you wish to seek revenge talk to a different person. Thank you.
@@rbtjgonzalez so if God is the source of everything, then He is the only source to sustain everything, so then we'd only be able to exist when we are connected to Him. This is what we call "worship Him"... Please explain what is egocentric about that?
@@eldin0074 I created my son but it would be pretty presumptuous and egotistical to force him to worship me and then punishing him with unspeakable malice if he didn't. DCFS would take him away in a second - and deservedly so.
9:08 sth to 13:00 sth - excellent work Danny, no quibbles about this one.
After 15:10 up to 19:35, no quibbles except the distance to Orion just mentioned as if certain.
Space, they say, is constantly expanding, so Andromeda might be 200M light years away now, but it wasn't when the light left it. It didn't have to travel the whole distance. It's like if you throw a baseball out of a car that is 10 feet away from a target it hits, and then 5 minutes later, the car is a mile away, the baseball didn't have to travel a mile. It started it's journey to the target when the car was still 10 feet away. (Flawed analogy but good enough.)
Since light is a continuous stream, this causes a red-shift, as the expansion of the space stretches out the wavelengths. I don't know if this solves or significantly mitigates the problem. It may not be enough to get the calculations to fit into the desired 6k year time frame. But it's a thought.
There wouldn't be an appreciable difference in the distance to Andromeda in 6000 years, unless you want if redshifted into invisibility.
Man, that "Bucking the big bang" article is impressive and a great example of how so many "suppress the truth". Romans 1 21 says "they became futile in their thinking". Lord, open the eyes.
The speed of light could have been infinite prior to Adam's fall.
Infinite, or irrelevant. When God works miracles time is no longer part of the equation. (wine created in an instant instead of months) Which would mean the days of creation are symbolic, as creation was a miracle!
The question to which i have yet to get an answer: in terms of temporal mechanics, what happens to light at the speed of light?
@@HallofFamerMichael Light remains light even when it is not travelling at the speed of 300 thousand km per second (like when it travels through some medium like glass, not through vacuum) :)
No it couldn't because that doesn't make sense. Infinity isn't a number or measurement.
@@scentylion5347 thats not exactly true either. Light can only travel at the speed of light. When its said that a material slows the speed of light, its actually a delay of its projected path from absorption and reemission of that material. Its like moving at a constant velocity in your car and accelerating instantly to your original speed everytime the traffic light turns green, but you come to a complete stop when its red. The delay in your travel time is completely dependent on the cycle of the light.
The biggest problem with trying to establish the age of the earth and the heavens (universe) as only 6000 to 7000 years, is that it leaves a big issue totally unanswered. WHEN was the time period of Lucifer's rule, before his rebellion and fall, becoming Satan? This is discussed in Isaiah 14:12-15 and Ezek 28:11-19.
Gen 1:2 says that the earth was without form and void. Isaiah 45:18 says that God did not create the earth in vain (without form), he formed it to be inhabited. If there is no conflict between scriptures, then logically it BECAME without form and void sometime after it was originally created. Was can mean became.
If a farmer says "there WAS grain in my field", does he mean it was there forever, or that it BECAME there when he planted it?
If God created the earth perfectly, to be inhabited, and Lucifer dwelt there until his rebellion brought ruin, then Genesis describes a restoration of earth for man to be created upon it. This also solves the age of dinosaurs much better than claiming they coexisted with man.
Without form and void could be applied to a lot of other initial states in which the universe was created. I'm currently looking into tge plasma cosmology of Barry Setterfield where the matter of the universe was initially created as water in the state of plasma. Plasma can be described as "without form and void". From that God formed the universe as we know it today, partially by supernatural intervention, partially by letting the laws of physics work out as they were intended once God ordered them into existence.
The epicycle explanations failing as well as people trying to explain how wine was miraculously made at Cana are great points.
Earth is flat!
Dome shaped
or these stars aren’t millions of light years away
@Morne Terblanche Yes they do know, and a scientific theory is not just a glorified hypothesis.
The stars within our galaxy are mostly less then 40000 light years away (the ones we can see at least). The local group is less than 10 million light years away. The other galaxies are mostly billions of light years away. We've got a couple of standard candles that can measure distance. We can use parallax within our galaxy. We've developed models for how distant objects are, so we have a very good understanding on how big the universe is. It does not fit young earth creationist view though, because it would make earth 4.5 billion years old. What a coincidence just the same age as radiometric decay, geology and and the age of the sun, wonder how come.
@tsimahei That is because no one except you understand what you mean. Dimly said, dimly thought.
That you don't understand is obvious, but people at least with college degree can actually learn. You need to go back to primary school if you want to be any wiser.
@Morne Terblanche You simpleton have no clue on what you are talking about. Show me one peer reviewed scientific paper that has debunked evolution. Just because you don't understand does not mean it is debunked.
A) Yes
B) You are wrong, you have nothing scientific supporting this claim
C) Lies are only on the creationist side
D) You have no clue on what you are talking about and are simply parroting what you have been told. It is 100% wrong.
E) I am in my right mind, not brainwashed as you and I don't *believe* in evolution, evolution is a fact.
F) You have no clue on what you are talking about and are simply parroting what you have been told. You are 100% wrong. C in vacuum is constant, C cannot change, since it is is connected to the electromagnetic force. If C was 4% off atoms could not form. I know this is above your head, but with some deprogramming you might be able to learn in the far future.
No peer reviewed paper has been written about the flaws of evolution.
I think the key to faster than light travel should be found in quantum field vortice creation -quantum entanglement research, pretty sure that's part of the equation. Must get around relativity and reduce energy requirements . It can be done.
I so enjoy this, I really do. My faith in God is strong and true. I once had no faith in anything. I in fact hated the idea of religion and faith. I thought that a man must be weak if he needs a Bible and an (Oh I hope this disclosure doesn't damage my soul, but I feel the need to share!) imaginary friend. See, we are definately products of the environment in which we were raised. My particular environment, my formative years was based around alcohol drinking parents, violence at school and then self sustaining via hard work. I worked in the oil patch for a long time and wow what a lot of devils there are there! I was negatively influenced and I drank a lot and yes I did get into trouble. But that was then and this is now.
I was in a lot of foster homes because of alcoholic parents and for the longest time I had trouble believing in God and Jesus because one foster home in particular, well the dad there was a preacher in church and he was an awfully violent man. He was physically very big and terribly strong and he not only beat on us foster children but he also beat up on his very own children and his wife, my foster mom and she was so sweet and kind... I do miss her, she's gone now and I wish she could have seen this better me, this believing me, a new man of faith.
God Bless you scientists, I follow you with deep interest!
He could have created the stars near and pulled them away. Job 9:8 He stretches out the heavens.."
Everything is by God’s power. NOTHING is able to make or order itself. Energy can’t even make or order itself.
Which god are you referring to? And how do you know what NOTHING is able to do? Can you please demonstrate a "nothing" for me??
Love it!
Fiction is lovable indeed.
Awesome ✅🎯
*the bible said that god stretched out the heaven, this was time space dilation, this also explains why halton arp debunked red and blue shift of star light, the galaxies their position was altered in a rapid fashion(hours or minutes)*
@AlienLifeForms1 Hyper/transdimensional physics. Any sufficiently advanced technology will seem as majik to the unedified.
Roth, God created an old universe and evolution (theistic evolution). Don't be such a Modern Pharisee. Would God create the aftermaths of collisions that never occurred? Your "theory" runs aground with the fact that galaxies -- dozens of them -- show evidence of hundreds of millions of years of approach, passage, and gravitational distortion. Suddenly, the variable light velocity ad hoc theory is made moot by momentum, inertia, velocity, distance and large chunks of required time.
@@htos1av Well, yes it would seem like magic. But actual spiritual action (rare these days) actually is "magic." Experiments have been done replicating miracles dozens of times. What makes it spiritual technology instead of physical technology is that the source of the effects is itself non-physical, intelligent intention.
This is very simple. When God said, "Let there be light," there was light instantly everywhere from 10 trillion billion zillion miles away from us. I believe that light filled all space at once and I believe that's why we can see stars and galaxies from trillions of miles away. Awesome!
@David Anewman And in Genesis, it says lights were put in the heavens to give light on Earth, meaning one could see the all the stars instantly! I just wish I had a Cosmic Microwave in my kitchen!
@Randy Zed It is my belief that light was omnipresent, and all that God created was instantaneous. I do not think that trees were created with an accelerated growth rate where they went from nut to full growth in minutes or hours - I believe that tress were created with the nuts and fruits on them instantaneous -(Genesis 1:12) - just like the light. I believe that God is beyond physics and time. Hope that clarifies my statement.
@Randy Zed Can you say more about "God-ordained principles?" Thanks.
There were no laws of physics during creation. The speed of light applies only to the Universe after Mankind sinned.
It was the big bang that provided the light in Genesis 1. Earth & the Universe began billions upon billions of kms apart in the emptiness of ... God's space.
ON the 4th day of creation ... the expanding Universe had finally reached Earth. God then slowed the expansion during creation, otherwise the stars will be clearly seen to be moving.
@@abelincoln8885 I would agree there that were no laws of physics during creation, but what is your evidence that the speed of light changed after the first sin? I believe that the speed of light became constant after God was finished creating on Day 6. Also, the galaxies are still spinning, but we are too far away to notice the changes. Isaiah 45:12 - "I handcrafted the skies
and direct all the constellations in their turnings." MSG I also have my own video on my channel, Big Bang vs God that answers a lot of these questions as well. This is good conversation!
With space expanding ... at tremendous rate ... this move stars away from each other ...
Could the Big Bang Theory be Day 4? As stated in the video: When God created the Stars is was sort of like time lapse or rapid expansion.
God when he creates the stars he doesn’t have to wait for the light to make it to earth. He creates the stars and their light at the same time. The same with the sun. He said, “Let there be light.” And there was light. He didn’t have to create the sun and then wait for eight minutes for the light to arrive. The light was there instantly. The source for that light could be created later.
So He intentionally fooled us? There is a better explanation.
@Richard Fox could you possibly show me two gases coming together in a vacuum and creating a star? I can’t wait!
@Richard Fox gas doesn’t clump together , gas moves away from one another , even under gravity, in fact , no two gasses come together but move away from one another. Plus even with gravity , there’s no density in a vacuum which would make stars forming on there own impossible. GOD made the stars but you believe this sci-fi science that has never been proven. Here’s some advice, stay out the comment section with your vain reasoning and pick up your Bible. You’re welcome.
So God created scientific laws and then created starlight that would create an issue with the Genesis account....too fool us?
If the light was stretched as claimed in this video it would be red shifted into oblivion. Very simple physics.
These videos are an absolute joke. In science you start with an observation and your conclusion flows from that. Faulkner starts with his conclusion and misrepresents observation to prove his conclusion.
Are you joking? You are one starting with idea that stars "created themselves" out in space and light had reach you. God separated light and darkness. There probably is red shift you just assume that means universe expanding into "nothing".
"In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day."- Genesis chapter 1 verses 1 to 5.
This was BEFORE stars and firmament!
@@MichaelAChristian1 ...because goat herders knew more about astronomy than current astronomers. Yep, makes perfect sense.
He told you about why the starlight is not so old. You fooled yourself.
@@rbtjgonzalez Your logic is asinine.
Science, particularly Biology, philosophically abandoned the Scientific Method decades ago. There’s zero evidence for evolution yet they base their entire field on the a priori assumption that it’s true.
If time is relative based on the observation point of the observer then why wouldn’t lights speed be relative as well?
Psalm 104:2 and Job 9:8 mention the stretching out of the heavens. Would that explain why there are millions of light years out there when the earth is only 6,000 years old ?
GOD said let there be and BANG there it was.
Huh, I've heard of the "Big Bang" theory, but never the "God Bang" theory. Sounds blasphemous. Oh wait, do you believe in an almighty "Big"?
If God clapped His hands, would there be a big bang or is that just a theory ?
That's diplomatic 😊
It is good to be honest about things you don’t know or don’t fit in your model. I wish everybody would be this honest as it would make science much more trustworthy. Lately even science is suffering from ideological propaganda.
In the big bang theory the speed of light gets a boost of a factor 68 to make it work, but this is not well known. Still some people state that this is how things started.
Let’s get honest about what we know and what we interpret from what we know.
How do you get order out of the big bang theory?
Awesome.
Young earth creationists really bum me out because there is no question the earth I s very old. God doesn’t experience what we call time.
Does not that go both ways?
If the Earth is old there is no question that the "stable" ecliptic path would be impossible to maintain for so long.
@@robertmcspadden1791 The first 6 days of Genesis 1 were zero time in length. God's day of rest is currently about 13.8 billion years long. If you've ever performed miracles, you might know this. "Resting" gives creation (miracles) persistence.
References:
*_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom_*
*_Proof of God_*
*_The Science of Miracles_*
Digital, yet we can forgive YEC'ers for their ignorance. Their problem is that they have copied the behavior of the Pharisees -- taking the Bible literally and missing the spirit of it all.
You're absolutely right about God not experiencing time, for He is non-physical. And physical reality consists of space, time, energy and mass.
In fact, the first 6 days of creation occurred in *_zero_* time. After several years experimenting with miracles (including replication) and analyzing the results, this fact is quite evident. And God's day of rest currently stands at 13.8 billion years old.
If only the biblical literalists would learn that God created the Bible to be *_DIFFICULT!_* Why? To force the arrogant to become humble so they can see the *_SPIRIT_* of scripture, instead of the letter, for the letter leads to death, and the spirit leads to everlasting life (2 Cor. 3:6).
References:
*_The Science of Miracles_*
*_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom_*
*_Proof of God_*
Rod Martin, Jr. forgiveness is the hardest thing for me to master, one of the most important things to practice all the time. Very difficult for me.
I'm not entirely convinced that those objects out there are of a physical nature.
What do you think they are? I've often joked that it's just wall paper, but I generally accept that they are real.
I'm not dogmatic on most things , the stars could be just a fancy light show ! . . . . .
All the heavenly bodies will dissolve. The skies will roll up like a scroll, and their stars will all wither as leaves wither on the vine, and foliage on the fig tree.
Isaiah 34:4 HCSB
Well, for starters, the Michelson-Morley Experiment, which supported the idea of the Aether rather than a pure vacuum surrounding our atmosphere, has never been disproved, it has actually been supported by experiments set out to disprove it. In recent decades, experiments in sono-luminescence uncannily produced what appeared to be stars in a laboratory, on a small scale of course. Its a well-known phenomenon that planets and stars each emit a unique radio frequency, sometimes referred to as the music of the spheres. I really think they could be the heavenly host, i.e. conscious entities that dwell in the heavenly realm. I know its quite a leap from what we're taught in school. I used to be really interested in astronomy and studied it as much as possible on my own time, but in the past several years I've realized that much of what we are taught about space is a close representation of occult ideology taught in the mystical sects of many ancient semetic religions. A few years ago I was really taken in by a channel called "the truth is stranger than fiction" and I've had some major problems with NASA and the entire accepted cosmological paradigm ever since. I'm not saying I couldn't have been mislead, but if you cast aside the influence of the current scientific conventions over your beliefs about space, it is not difficult to imagine the cosmos being completely different from what it is portrayed to be. The images we are presented with are all officially admitted to be artistic representations anyway.
Well if stars were light years away then how come you can zoom in so close you can see all their details,, and when they move across the sky they move all at the same speed and with no parallax view and the moon is the same speed as stars
Can you see details in stars? Amazing! I guess you mean planets, which are light minutes away.
The moon the same speed as stars? Look up at night.
Ridiculous.
Also time is relative the speed of time could have been totally different back than maybe caused by the speed of the expansion of the universe? Also even the constant speed of light is now known is not so constant. Even the speed of light is slowing down.
Cosmicly speaking we are so tiny and utterly insignificant. And yet Christ died for us.
Two grown up men talking about fairytales. America in a nutshell.
I've never questioned this. God stretched out the heavens. It seems to me that we are look at the light as it was stretched from here to there. So the light was here already.we are looking at the light in real time in my opinion.
I have a hunch that we will see a rapid process again soon. I’m only speculating, but I wonder if there will be a severe and swift geological and meteorological event that changes the earth’s dynamic complexity, a coming “tribulation” that demonstrates God’s existence and power and necessarily reorders the status quo and foundations of the world.
I do believe the universe had to be created mature, meaning the distant light was present through out the universe upon creation. The problem I see with the thought that things grew out of the ground as vegetation does today but grew quickly and applying it to the whole creation creates another set of problems. Adam and other mammals had to be created mature since they need to be nursed if created as babies. Even a non-nursing hen still shows her chicks to scratch the ground and where and how to roost in a tree. Just my two cents worth of thought, thanks for the videos, I really enjoy them.
Beautiful
Scientific answers are available. Check out Berry Setterfield and his discussion of ZPE and its significance concerning the speed of light past and present. It also gives evidence of the 6 day creation.
Uniformitarianism versus catastrophism
This is the question that needs addressing more in public education
I have to disagree with this answer but it is a good hypothesis.
All I can say is “WOW”!
WOW exactly ... its hard to believe someone can be so stup!d
ok. finally an answer.
Have you considered the implication of Isaiah 42:5 and Isaiah 45:12 - 42:5 "So says Jehovah God, He who created the heavens and stretched them out, spreading out the earth and its offspring; He who gives breath to the people on it and spirit to those who walk in it" and 45:12 "I have made the earth, and created man on it; I with My hands have stretched out the heavens; and all their host have I commanded?" Does it not solve the time problem if the heavens were created in a "central spot / the point of observation" and then God spread it all out in all directions. In such a case, would we not observe a red (doppler) shift, and would the implication not therefore be that the "oldest" light would be at the central observation point from the moment it all started?