What do enormous layers of coal reveal about Noah's Flood? - Dr. Kurt Wise
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- Опубликовано: 19 авг 2024
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In this much-requested video, Del Tackett follows paleontologist Kurt Wise into the air shaft of an old coal mine in the Pocket Wilderness (Tennessee) where they discuss the origin of coal. Dr. Wise explains how the conventional model of coal formation in swamps is insufficient for explaining the coal beds we actually see. He talks about research done by Steve Austin in terms of floating log mats.
Dr. Wise earned his BA in geology from the University of Chicago, and his MA and PhD degrees in paleontology from Harvard University. He founded and directed the Center for Origins Research at Bryan College and taught biology there for 17 years. He then led the Center for Theology and Science at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary for 3 years, before founding and directing the Center for Creation Research and teaching biology at Truett McConnell University for the last 7 years.
His fieldwork has included research in early Flood rocks in the Death Valley region, late Flood rocks in Wyoming, and post-Flood caves in Tennessee.
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I’m an underground miner in the Midwest and Ive wandered for over a decade how the coal was made. Iv seen lot of things that led me to the conclusion that hydrolics “water” had to have had a big part in it and trees as well. The way the seems lay and rise up and down looked like water had moved over what was once the ground one would have stood on. Ive seen shells,trees that are so long laying rite on top of the coal in the shell and fossilized in perfect detail. Once in a while one would line up with an entry and a couple inches of stack rock would fall exposing them and it would expose its self for many brakes. On the main west travel road on 100 foot pillars 120 foot centers we had one exposed for over 8 brakes. That’s 960 feet of tree in perfect detail and we never saw a single branch or the stump nor did it narrow. That was the longest but seen many. We also had a fern leaf in an intersection on a main that measured 38 feet across. Scientist came to visit our mine more than once and we were told that it was an ancient rain forest.
The things the man said in this video makes more sense than anything Ive ever heard about coal. I’d say he’s dead on.
Nice!
@@arussell-bishop4438 A couple things I know for sure about oil is that dead dinosaurs didn’t make the oil we have like the schools teach us lol there would have had to been 9 trillion or them.
Secondly is that oil was not always considered a fossil fuel.. for a long long time it was seen to be a renewable resource and no one disagreed with that. It wasn’t untill the mid 1890’s when one of the Rockefeller’s attended the Geneva convention along with 2 scientist on his payroll that oil was deemed a fossil fuel. He convinced everyone that oil had to regulated and there for the cost must go up and he profited from this more than anyone else.
I’m not saying that it is or isn’t a fossil fuel but it seems that at the rate we burn in worldwide that we would be out by now.
Excellent discussion on your experiences in underground mines. I would ask one small favor that someone helps you to edit your story in order that all the details of your story are clear and accurate. I was intrigued by your report and I would imagine it could be used in more scholarly works and discussions.
Robert I think it came out as intended and won’t be needing any help with anything. I made it real simple to understand.
@@chadsmith9218 Please forgive me Chad, but there are obvious spelling and grammar problems that would improve your report. Words such as "Iv" should be spelled "I've" as in I have. "Seems" as seams of coal. I am not sure what you mean by "wret". As a music teacher of over 35 years, I would encourage these improvement. Your story is fantastic and needs to be heard. Just don't let spelling and grammar cloud over the truth of your report.
I have a friend in Israel who lived in the USA. There he used to work in a coal mine in Virginia. One day a clonker (petrified tree) got stuck in the machine. Under it they found a golden necklace. It was underground in an untouched coal layer.
@@willythewave there is compelling physical evidence that this is the case.
@@willythewave The word "dinosaur" wasn't coined until 1841. The scriptures and other early historic references indicate there were huge creatures roaming the earth at the same time that mankind also walked upon it. Dragons and behemoths come to mind. Some early cave paintings depict animals eerily similar to modern drawings based upon fossil records. How did people from ancient times know how to draw what we label as "dinosaurs" if they hadn't physically observed them?
Such a discovery would be an archeologic sensation. Any evidence for it, except heard from a friend who heard from a friend who heard from another?
@@lanzknecht8599 While I don't know about this specific situation, I have seen pictures unusual things that have been discovered in coal seams. Have seen pictures of fairly modern objects that have been fossilized in caves. To see examples, Google fossilized hat.
In this age, anything which doesn't enhance the popular notion of "Big Bang" and the span of millions of years, afterwards, usually gets buried on the bottom half of the last page of some obscure publication.
In 1886 England gold jewelry was found in a piece of coal & BTW what is now 'carat gold' was the same before the flood!! Also a hammer found in east Texas like a tack hammer in a piece of shale or sandstone in 1934. The metal was 96% iron, 2% sulfur & 2% chlorine & scientists are trying to figure out the use of chlorine because chlorine today is not used to allow with iron or steel. BTW the hammer never rusts/tarnishes!!
I grew up for 18 years living right next to a brickworks quarry and could clearly see the layers of coal, shales, sandstone etc.
The coal outcropped so close to surface that last year builders putting houses on field adjacent the quarry was forced to have excavators dig down 4 feet to thoroughly mix the coal and shale to forestall any possibility of a garden fire causing and underground fire scenario like in Centralia.
I once calculated that before the Flood there was probably 30 trillion large trees on Earth and at say a 15% ratio of organic material to be converted into methane, oil and coal it would give perhaps 1.5 TRILLION TONS of oil and coal.
But the figure would be far higher when all the grasses, crops, bushes, fallen leaves, humus is added and converted to oil and coal.
Then add in all the drowned humans, dinosaurs, creatures, birds, fish, insects and the total mass of gas, oil and coal under our feet is unimaginable for most people but it is certainly sufficient to keep us warm and fuelled for hundreds more years!
No wonder GOD intends to burn up this tired Earth and make a new one after Judgment Day!
My calculations are in my book: 'A Brief History of Time #2 by R White' available from Amazon.
Well, the plant life became coal but it was the ‘people’ and animals that were digested by the masses of floating bacteria and microscopic organisms that later fell to the ocean/ continental floor and became oil & gas.
Watch more of these videos for more insight… not time efficient to get it second hand from me. BUT if this knowledge had been available 60 ears ago I’d be a history teacher not a nurse.
@@appaloosa42 You should take your own advice and watch more of these videos to gain insight into how the flood buried all the animals, humans, dinosaurs etc and then covered them with sediments as the flood waters drained away, and especially my comments and then you will know the truth of the gas, oil and coal deposits.
@@appaloosa42 have you figured out how woody stuff like bark forms coal in a very short time if iron is mixed in as I posted a month ago?
ROSEWHITE: what makes you think I haven’t?
@@appaloosa42 your ridiculous reply????????????
So wonderful to see bible-believing Christians who are scientists speaking out.. finally. Thank you all who participate in making these films
Flood stories have nothing to do with Christianity. These stories are multicultural, and, as with Noah, predate Christianity.
@@SyriusStarMultimedia no. There is a version on every culture. Because it was witnessed by one family, who spread out. Moses' family. If Moses' story is true, so is Jesus' story. You can't pick and choose the truth you like. The Truth is always the Truth regardless of if you like the Truth. Repent and Believe.
AMEN to your comment Chuck....
Amen
@Steve Whalley Steve, when and why did God create Angeles and Spirits? When and why was Lucifer cast down to the earth.....why did God flood the earth? When did God devide the earth?
It is so refreshing to hear some real scientific explanations that actually make sense!
wrong video
Dr. Wise has an infectious enthusiasm that is so cool. It makes learning about rocks so interesting.
there is nothing to learn here.
🙋🏽over 60 , was just wishing he was my teacher.
@@olivierb9716 So, what annoys you?
Did you give it a chance from start to end?
Did you see the more general presentations, too?
Are you blinded by your own paradigm of how things were?
@@olivierb9716 Plz, present your case to refute what Dr.Wise explained in this video clip or remain slient!
Maybe hearing about rocks, but learning? Not a chance.
I worked several months in underground coal mines in West Virginia. I saw several "kettle bottoms" which appear to be the bottom sections of trees.
Yeah there are several in the pocahontas exhibition coal mine. There are whole trees standing vertically in the one in Alabama.
Would really like to see one on how oil is formed. I understand now how the Coal has come about. Tell us about oil please!
When I worked at a small scale coal mine there were 3 layers of coal and the mudstone that I lifted had the imprint of what I could describe as a fern.
Yeah how old would you say that was ....I'll let you work it out.......🤦♂️
Good to see scientist doing science.
I love the energy and vibe of Dr. Kurt Wise💓
Despite his misinformation?
Engery does not make him right.
If that is true then trump is smartass person to ever live.
This Welshman comes from a traditionally coal-mining nation but none of this is taught in those extinct pits that are now museums. I challenged a tour guide who said that a piece of a fossilised tree was 300,000 years old. I asked him how he knew it was that old. He said, "That's what THEY say!" Question: who are "THEY?"
I prefer to believe the Genesis account and give all the glory to God
So did you growing up in this coal-mining society help influence your opinion on this matter? Like, did you know anyone with an anecdote who worked in coal?
Maybe you should ask someone besides a tour guide. On the other hand, no one knows who wrote genesis or when.
This is nonsense. Noah's flood wasn't universal. This guy has never seen the Scottish coalfield seams which in some areas are full of faults. I have seen seams that outcrop at severe angles. We have musselband coal where you can see a layer of mussels this is over 700 metres underground. How did that happen? Before Yahweh"s creation that we see today the earth went into turmoil where the plates must have all moved in total destruction and confusion. We know Yahweh is not the author of confusion, something must have "rebelled" or caused this catastrophe to end this prehistoric world. The creation in Genesis is the reforming of our world by the hand of Yahweh for man's dominion.
Non sequitur: tour guide can't answer question, therefore Genesis explanation must be the truth.
Tour guide can't answer question, therefore Flying Spaghetti Monster is the explanation.
"I prefer to believe" pretty much says it all.
You guys are sooo wrong on your theory abt coal seams, don’t think you have ever been in different surface or underground mining operation.
The bottom of the coal is Not always flat.
There are whole trees with roots limbs and leaves in the coal seam, plus other vegetation.
No need for a microscope to see it.
Y’all have got to get outside more.
I made it passed the 3 minute mark and had to shut it down , you shouldn’t be spreading misinformation like this.
Thanks
Coal Miner.
Now now, facts ruin their narrative. Like the fact that the whole 'Noah's flood' story is just a rewrite of the even more ancient Epic of Gilgamesh, which is another fictional tale about gods wiping out humans via flood, but one human family and their farmhands (and the local animals) survive the efforts of the gods who intended to completely kill the human race.
@@avi8r66 Well, the flood would have predated the stories but it's interesting that the story seems to be so universal almost as though it's a cultural memory dating back to a set of common ancestors who were a very small group of survivors.
@@morefiction3264 Flooding was a common cause of large scale destruction in those days. Farming required water, as do people. When they learned to pull fish from the sea they also built near salt water shore lines. But in all these locations flooding was a known risk and floods tended to be the most destructive thing they knew, entire villages would be lost, sometimes in the dead of night. So the flood was the scary monster of the era.
Genesis' version of the flood myth is a rewrite of the epic of gilgamesh, written about 2,000 years before the genesis version was written. It was rewritten around a single god vs many, and since it was just 1 god he had no other gods to betray so he leaked the story to the survivor himself. And just because it was repeated doesn't make it accurate. Even today lots of purely fictional stories are repeated and rewritten. Nothing new there.
Cultural stories are certainly a thing, but this doesn't make them factual in their content. Lots of copies, lots of manuscripts, lots of devoted followers, none of these things establish the truth of the story, just the popularity. And as we can all see even today, fiction is far more appealing than fact.
This is a great explanation. It makes it easy to understand why metal items called ooparts have been found in coal in Pennsylvania and Russia.
What kind of metal parts? Can these ooparts be from human origins? There is strong evidence of a "bell found in coal". Search this title for more details. This brass bell with a figure on top of the handle was discovered in 1940 by a ten year old boy, who was shoveling coal into the family furnace.
@@musictheoryforeveryone7938 I'm assuming that is exactly what he means by ooparts. I'm not familiar with that term but I have seen the bell you mentioned in videos about things found in coal. Also, an axe and gold chain amongst other items were found as well. Extremely interesting. These items are from a pre flood world and cannot be explained away. I can't remember all the things they found in coal, but there was a video on RUclips that showed quite a few.
@@henryottis295 ooparts is an acronym for, out of place artifacts
@@henryottis295, Then how do you explain 19th and 20th century items that are supposed to be 5000 years old?
@@davidgardner863
I have no idea what you are talking about.
I was referring to items that were pre flood found in coal deposits.
They are well-documented, so if you are looking to argue, go elsewhere.
It never ceases to amaze me how people need to think in a time frame that suits their limited perspective.
No, the truth is that we've been bombarded with evolutionist propaganda all our lives, and now we want facts. That's open mind, not closed.
@@nathanandnickSherbetImage An open mind can see that things evolve. People, societies and animals all change to adapt to the situations around them. That is the way God made it. Those changes / adaptations can be tiny or even immense. To deny that is laughable.
God made us in His image - living beings. We are not static. He wants us to be more like Him in every way as we live and grow - evolve. Who cares if we descended from apes or the earth is billions of years old - or not. What matters is that we honor God by doing the best we can to join Him in His greatness.
@@joephysics5469 no offense, but you're literally guilty of the very thing you're accusing others of. Secondly, God doesn't "evolve". He's the same yesterday today and forever more. He doesn't change because he's already perfect. Things don't evolve either(if by evolution you are talking about a change of kinds ie: fish to dogs or Apes to humans etc). Such a belief directly contradicts the Bible and what we actually observe in nature. We are not "evolving" or becoming more like God. On the contrary "All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" -Romans 3:23 However: "Being justified freely by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God set forth as a propitiation by His blood, through faith, to demonstrate His righteousness, because in His forbearance God had passed over the sins that were previously committed, to demonstrate at the present time His righteousness, that He might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus." By putting your faith in Jesus, not only are you saved from eternal damnation due to your sin, but you'll by lead by the example he set in scripture by the way he lived his life. Jesus being the true image of God; to be more Christ-like means your are trying to be more like God.
@@tylerthomas2956 Becoming more Christ like is evolution.
Thinking that you understand God is the ultimate arrogance.
It is completely possible for an individual to ascend to a higher state of spiritual enlightenment that you are capable of understanding.
@@joephysics5469 What do you mean by evolution? And when did I say I understood God? All I understand is what God made known of himself by his word through his son Jesus Christ. That's all. Also what is this "higher stage of spiritual enlightenment" . Because if this "ascension" doesn't mean being born again by repenting and putting your faith in Jesus Christ as your lord and savior, then you've been decieved. John 3:3; "Jesus answered and said to him, “Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.”
It's now official! "Is Genesis History?" is my absolute favorite youtube channel!
no genesis isn't history...there's NO DOME over the land keeping the waters of heaven out...there's no holes in this dome that are the stars in the sky...the earth isn't flat...the universe wasn't created in 6 days and in the wrong order either...literally nothing in genesis is true and been proven to be false...YOU DON'T EVEN BELIEVE THERE'S A DOME OVER THE EARTH DO YOU?
A channel called answers in genesis is pretty darn good as well
@@mikeadams2351 actually NOTHING in the bible has been proven to be false.......still things yet to be proven true (more and more is proven true each year however) but NOTHING has been PROVEN to be false.....you obviously have been lied to and are parroting those said lies, you do t want to believe there is a creator because then you will know that you will be held accountable for your actions.......I pray that you see the truth before it's too late my friend!!
@@oldcountryboy actually there is a flood story in justa bout every civilization even ones no longer around, might wanna stop believing "information" just because it goes along with your wanted beliefs and start believing the truth even if you do want to......
@@oldcountryboy what you parrot isn't facts tho, there is most def many geological evidences for a global flood, it's also recorded in justa bout every single civilization to exist since when the flood was supposed to have occured.......may wanna stop being deceived by lies just because they say what you want to be true.....
It's nice to see such intelligent people proposing such plausible theories based on progressive science. Something that has been sadly lacking in many fields of, supposed, science.
" progressive science" WTF does that even mean? "plausible theories" Really? Nothing this shill says is even remotely plausible. "supposed, science" Oh, I see, real scientific study is "supposed", but whacky supernatural BS is "progressive". Wow, just...wow.
Plausible please say you are kidding
@@michaelcalhoun5704 We know how diamonds form. Producing them in a lab proves it. Ditto with coal.
I shared your previous video about the log mats forming beds of bark underneath the mats in a discussion about coal. I was genuinely interested to know what OTHER people knew about the formation of coal. The general hypothesis is completely incompatible with young earth creationists ideas. So I left the discussion having succeeded in at least bringing up the topic. Really interesting videos, thank you for sharing!!
Finally a intellectual presentation on RUclips that is worth listening to.
That is absolutely incredible. And to think it's also the best source for ultra clean and cheap natural gas. And literally unlimited supply of it lol all that is needed is water under pressure and a period of time and BAM you have natural gas. One example of this is in north east Wyoming. Thousands of shallow depth water wells drilled down to the coal seam. Pump out the water and the gas flows like crazy. It's drawn out by pumping stations and then pushed to a refinery. Whenever a well stops producing it is turned off and then massive amounts of water is pumped into the well and capped off. A cycle that is basically limitless. And a source of energy that is almost 100% pollution free. And yet there is still huge amount of opposition to it's production and use. Kinda proves that there is a major agenda against real environmental reform. But I digress lol
It's much cleaner than coal, but it still produces co2, which is damaging in the amount that we are producing over long periods of time. If yhwy could somehow catch the co2 and clean it out of the exhaust that would be good.
Manufactured supply and demand. Remember Peak Oil Theory. They don't want us to know energy is so abundant it's practically free.
Its interesting to know that what was discussed here is currently being witnessed and studied as a result of the Mt st helens volcanic eruption in the 1980's, a layer of treebark has sunk to the bottom of a lake, and this process is occurring now.
The more you know the more exciting it gets! Dr. Kurt Wise is a prime example of it.
That is why Wise is so boring... He is very unintelligent. Wise is just a prime example for ignorance.
@@aprilmay578 So, arguments, please.
@@chrise842 Only fools argue
@@klouis1886 Mr. Tucker present your case, not just a bold statement, if you will!
@@aprilmay578 only fools make statements they can’t back up.
We've been in that air shaft many times and didn't know all of this. Thank you!
Dr wise does such a great job of explaining all this. I just know in my heart this great Earth is not 14.5 Billion years old and we have been mislead. Thank you Dr Wise.
The earth's age is not in dispute here. It is indeed probably 14.5 billion years. No problem with that.
Oh my, Soo much power Noah's flood had. Jesus is Lord
Great explanation
The power of moving water is underrated by a massive margin by the general populace.
@@arc001 you have all the evidence necessary to believe in Jesus.
Romans 1:20 “For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:”
The Bible claims authority, it explains the flood, it explains death, it explains salvation, it explains our responsibilities to obey God's word. Don't "wait for the science" and miss God.
Name above all names
@@arc001 God has revealed Himself in his Word and through His Son Jesus.
I did not know about the catalyst before. That’s pretty awesome. Thank you kindly for sharing this.
I just want to say Thank you. I've never heard of this explanation, and since growing in my religious views after college, this is amazing to ears. God bless you and those who worked on this film series.
read matt 6:1-6 and you can truely grow in the knowledge and evil of state religions!
Believing this blinds your real faith God is a scientist he made things through a process that required time but one day of God can be thousands of our years why can't the Bible wrote by man have flaws the true meaning a message is only what needs to be right amd clear blind faith leads to blind judgement. all that praises all th his name will reap his joy only saying it is your faith casting judgement on good which is the work and will of God
@@michaelcalhoun5704 I understand what you are saying. In my opinion, that is with me having gone to college and studied Geology, Archeology and Paleontology, being taught what several universities, and museums lecture on, compared what these scientists explaining. This does make sound scientific explanation. We can not simply listen to 1 explanation, but several. I will never stop learning from others, nor will I stop making my own conclusions. I did not state that they were right nor wrong. But that I did enjoy hearing their differing opinions with their scientific research and references to what I believe to be our most accurate historical document. Have a blessed day.
During the Soviet era Czechoslovakia contained the mother load of uranium deep below the surface my uncle's were anticommunist political prisoners in those deep mines going down in open elevators through the geologic column layers of rock they would see coal seams composed of gigantic trees up to 400 ft long & forty feet in diameter!
That is interesting. Did you receive this information only in spoken form? I'd like to read about it if someone published that.
i second the guy above, i would love to hear more info on this
@@TS-jm7jm i third it.
A source would be a excellent addition to your post! Thanks for sharing your story!
Please could you point us in the direction of where this has been discussed and investigated, hopefully in English! This is fascinating 😀
would 100% agree with this having worked with coal for the last 10 years and seen numerous seam formations & if you take a good look at the topography and prevailing wind patterns here in Queensland there is a clear relationship between a receding shore line post a massive single eevent and spread over 1500km of shore line. Shore line deposits are of ocean origin and not swamp are at 3 levels and have been back filled from inland sediment deposition. Many areas have only compacted sand of around 60 m with only weak rock formation.
Have you considered that a coal seam can be up to 30 meters thick, how many trees would be required to make that seam? All in a single event? The amount of coal worldwide far exceeds the possible plant matter at the time.
yes i have and that actually came up in a study i was listening to today . So im not sure if you have researched. At 400ppm C02 the worldwide Carbon production by plant matter is 115 billion tonnes per year. around half is land based carbon. so 60 billion tonnes x 1500 years is 90 trillion tonnes ( Australia for example has 120 billion tonnes of coal and is about 5% of the worlds land mass) meaning australia has retained 0.13% of the land based carbon mass in that 1500 years. ( that is 2% of the 4.5 trillion tonnes of carbon mass produced on the continent for 1500 years. )
thanks for the comment. @@BornAgainCynic0086
I lived near a kaleechi rock pit in Texas, it has millions of sea creatures fossilized in it ..... I'm 300 miles from the ocean though.
Absolutely fascinating. Please do more videos like this!
Please don't. Creationists have no truth or honor. There was no flood because everything is wrong for that to have happened. Try thinking for yourself and do what god tells you not to... think. Think for yourself and ask questions. Think about what it would take for this to happen and then look at the civilizations of that time period. Look at the problems that only require magic and the suspension of the laws of the real world to have this work. AIR, inside the ark, would become poisonous with methane. It would be like walking around with a bag of feces tied to your face and that is all you could breathe. No, you can show this could not have happened if you are an honorable person.
Kurt Wise is first and foremost a creationist. He himself stated that all the evidence in the universe wouldn’t change his mind on creationism. If that doesn’t put a bias on his work, I don’t know what does. He is lying to himself and you.
Seriously, this changes everything we currently understand to be the history of the earth!
"history is the lie commonly agreed upon"
Voltaire
Yes, it changes reality to fantasy.
This makes sense as I just saw an undersea river...literally a river within the deep sea...that is undisturbed by surrounding waters...
Just amazing that we have a whole layout of logs crossing the entire world!! That is impossible to happen in any circumstance....except the Great Flood of Noahs Day.
do you have any more inflow i can look at to see more about this undersea rive
Indeed it's simply incredible
@@TS-jm7jm mexico and the black sea.
Elizabeth Jansen Thanks. Amazing
I've seen video of ancient cypress trees and river beds on the floor of the Gulf of Mexico.
So I’ve had theories about this stuff for quite a while. 2+ decades. But at this moment you’re breaking my head. Thank you. God bless you. Please keep doing what you do.
LOL! You didn't have theories, you had hypothesis. Shows how unintelligent you are about science.
Thanks for sharing. Your presentation reminds me of processes I learned from Whitcomb and Morris in the mid-1960s.
@14:28 "...here, this is cool. I just can't resist this"😄
Kurt's passion is awesome.
Thank you for all the work you've done and shared
Oh my goodness! 😲 I hadn't even finished watching to see his point. The catalyst is the *ash* 🤯
That's _amazing_ ! No wonder he was so excited 😁
I have to make a video just with that
This is so informative. It will be more interesting if you can come up with a map to show where these coal deposits were formed all over the world..... it’ll add life to everyone’s imagination.
Very good idea. Lay coal deposit maps over geographic maps
We see a lot of upside down trees penetrating the coal seams and into the rock layer eithe side, much easier to see in our open cut mines as they are exposing 40 to 100 m high walls during the blasting
get pics!!!
Brian J Pics and locations! Oh, and I'll bet all these trees are unlike any trees that we see today. I'll bet they are club-mosses and horsetails and nothing like modern deciduous trees.
And as for your weird "upside down trees", the mind boggles. I too have personal experience of coal mines - deep pit, adit and open cast - and have never seen one. Trunks fossilised in an upright position ARE common, (google: kettlebottoms) as are root systems that naturally penetrate the underlying stratum (the seat earth). I have never had a problem with the cyclothem explanation, which has served us so well and for so long., and which accounts for ALL the varied strata in coal measure deposits. Kurt Wise however is struggling. He simply hasn't got the time.
@@alanthompson8515 Pffft. We can see polystrate trees being formed in Spirit Lake, since the eruption of Mt. St. Helens. That eruption was only forty years ago.
@@sixchuterhatesgoogle3824 PFFT! to you. Spirit Lake is the oft quoted so-called example beloved by the loony literalists. Even if it was a typical example (being volcanic in origin, it isn't!) it is terrible science to base a general hypothesis upon one locality. Again, it's yet another example of creation non-scientists ignoring perfectly sensible alternatives and mangling the evidence to fit their presupposition that God Did IT.
@@alanthompson8515 The first step of the scientific method is: Observe. We can actually observe what is happening in Spirit Lake. We can't observe a process that happened in the past, therefor the cyclothem explanation is unscientific. You are yet another example of a God hater, sticking his fingers in his ears screaming "la la la I can't hear any evidence of creation". You're a child, hiding behind a facade of intellectualism. PFFFT!
In a chunk of raw coal a ritual bell made of gold was found and also at a different location a hammer with part of its handle was also found in a seam of coal. Neat thing is pictures were taken and one can come across vids of them on RUclips.
Martin Garza Fact check, please, before posting. Both your examples are PRATTs. The Upshur bell relies on anecdotal "evidence" - the 10 year old who found it failed to save the lump of coal. And it was brass, not gold. The London Hammer, partially encrusted with limy rock concretion and found in London, Texas has long been debunked. Sometimes exaggerated as having been found "embedded in solid rock", it's merely the result of dissolved sediment hardening around a hammer. SMH.
@@alanthompson8515 What do you mean Fact check? Atheist have no more facts than religion does. In fact all theories involved with evolution are no more based on fact and are themselves only hypothesized explanations for what is collectively assumed by men. At least Religion has Faith. Oh wait, you do have faith in Evolution I see.
But we have the Bibles written record from the beginning as witnessed by mankind. So what do atheist have that can even remotely compare with that? I know you will answer with some lines about Darwin, Leakey or some college Professor's literary works. But geez they also were not there to witness either.
I would have to say the fact checking and fact proving kind-of falls more on atheist ! Now that we have established that both sides are non proven. Why attack a man who follows God and has his own faith? Also he was not commenting to you at all, so why the hate? He commented to the Video and it wasn't in any way directed to you or any atheist either. And why are you even on a religious channel to begin with? Lol
@@about2mount What a strange point! I ask Martin to fact check two hoary old Points Rebutted A Thousand Times, and I guess (from his failure to respond further) that he did. Then you chip in with this weird attempt to argue the general from the particular. Again, SMH.
Where in my comment to Martin is atheism mentioned? It is simply an appeal to him to check his sources. How is this hateful?
I'll do something similar for you. Please think before posting. Your presuppositions and prejudices are clear for OP to see.
As is your lack of logic. For instance, "and why are YOU even on a religious channel to begin with?" I am not LOL, it's too sad.
@@alanthompson8515 What made it you business to knock on a mans faith?
Let me explain things in perspective and with sound
logic,,,,,first of all you cannot prove the events in the Bible did not occur any more than your ability to prove evolution. Why? Because nobody was there except for those men who wrote a written record in the Bible. Furthermore using logic you should be able to understand that all of evolution is based on Hypothetical Theories
which are not established facts. So why fact check one
way when not being able to fact check your own way?
Hypocritical yes.....People as you want everyone to
conform to your way or the highway.
And just as the Bible states---
Romans 1;18-
18 For God’s wrath is being revealed from heaven against
all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who are suppressing the truth in an unrighteous way, 19 because what may be known
about God is clearly evident among them, for God made it clear
to them. 20 For his invisible qualities are clearly seen from
the world’s creation onward, because they are perceived by
the things made, even his eternal power and Godship, so that they are inexcusable. 21 For although they knew God, they did not glorify him as God nor did they thank him, but they became empty-headed in their reasonings and their senseless hearts became darkened. 22 Although claiming they were wise, they
became foolish 23 and turned the glory of the incorruptible
God into something like the image of corruptible man and birds
and four-footed creatures and reptiles.
24 Therefore, God, in keeping with the desires of their hearts, gave them up to uncleanness, so that their bodies might be
dishonored among them. 25 They exchanged the truth of God for
the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever.
Amen. 26 That is why God gave them over to disgraceful sexual
passion, for their females changed the natural use of themselves
into one contrary to nature; 27 likewise also the males left the
natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their
lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene
and receiving in themselves the full penalty, which was due for their error. 28 Just as they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave
them over to a disapproved mental state, to do the things not
fitting. 29 And they were filled with all unrighteousness, wickedness, greed, and badness, being full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, and malice, being whisperers, 30 backbiters,
haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, schemers of what is
harmful, disobedient to parents, 31 without understanding,
false to agreements, having no natural affection, and merciless.
32 Although these know full well the righteous decree of God-that those practicing such things are deserving of death -they not only keep on doing them but also approve of those practicing them.
It was in Arkansas or Missouri back in the 1920s, a sledge hammer broke open a big piece of coal at a power plant & out came that brass bell & that hammer was found in east TX in 1934
Coal deposits are literally millions of years old, what does a story written a thousand years ago have to do with the formation of coal?
They also have to explain how dry desert sand deposits were deposited in the middle of the flood. There are rock layers that were clearly deposited in a desert environment, like the Sahara or Namib. Their explanation might be something like, clearly the flood dried up, allowed deserts to spread, depositing those layers, only for the flood to start up again.
They'd also have to explain how whales and dolphins survived, since the Bible said that everything with the breath of life outside the Ark died. Guess whales and dolphins don't have it, since the Bible says they're actually fish, literally fish. Yeah, no. The Bible for me is mostly just fairy tales.
Nothing, lol. Absolutely nothing. These creationists are cherry picking through their confirmation bias to make them feel better about their fantasies.
@@jemmapellemma8185
It reminds me of the kind of reality denial I get from flat earthers, they both treat demonstrable science like it’s someone’s opinion, it’s so embarrassing
@@quantumrobin4627 the only thing I got to check out about the flat earth theory is to get a lazer and shoot it across a body of water that should have a curvature. I've seen videos about it and I won't say either way until I do my own experiment.
The flood... I have to ask what did the tigers eat upon being released from the ark. Just two tigers could have extincted other species.
@@sigisoltau6073
Yea the Bible is 99% unoriginal myth from much older traditions
This theory works well with another theory that trees were much much larger pre-flood.
Trees were much much larger just 200 years ago. My great grandfather logged pine trees in South Mississippi that a dozen men joined hand-to-hand couldn't reach all the way around. Now a single person can hug a "mature" tree.
Everything was larger preflood, atmospheric conditions were slot different. There was 50% more oxygen preflood and things lived longer, that's how the dinosaurs got so big and we're able to survive and also how they died out after the flood bcuz the atmospheric conditions were no longer the same.
@@christinapomponio6452 I agree. We essentially lived in a hyperbaric chamber in those times. That also contributed to the incredulous lifespan of people like Methuselah and Enoch, Adam and so on.
@@congressisevil9229 Actually both of you are right. Methuselah almost lived a millennia. And trees were bigger by substantial amounts. Not just because of the oxygen/essentially a hyperbaric chamber that we lived in back then Created by the shielding. But because of the amount of larger creatures that regularly roam the earth that dwarfed modern day elephants Putting out all that additional carbon dioxide. You know cow farts and all that ridiculousness. And yes I know cows we’re not around back then. Yes bug’s as well where bigger. But also because there has never been a city upon the scale’s that we have now nor the frequency that we have now. Nor the continual Deforestation and logging on the grand scale that we have and have had sense.
@@oldcountryboy and the sphinx statue sitting outside the pyramids shows excessive water erosion. And it’s been proven multiple times by multiple archaeologists and geologist that the sphinx is considerably older than the pyramids.
The size of the coal seams/layers stretching across continents is interesting to compare to the Hydroplate Theory by Walt Brown!
It stretches across a vast area because it is the body of a dragon that is the blood or that dragon.
Truth is something people seek but have no room for it once they get it.
The earth thar we call land is a humongous graveyard of Gigantuous creatures that died during the flood.
Now you are in the spotlight like a deer !
Walt Brown is a joke, he’s found the Ark like 6 times🤣
just where are these coals seams/layers stretching across continents at? which continents would that be? aren't you ashamed to believe in such obvious crap?
@@mikeadams2351 he just named the extent of it here in the video with the same fossils, including pollen.
I'm keeping an open mind and this is making a lot of sense, not that there can't be extremely old coal layers, too. I love learning new things. I will say overturning 'facts' that are hundreds of years old doesn't bother me, while overturning modern 'facts' is somewhat unsettling.
I love the proofs for Noahs Ark. Thanks to public school system it took years for me to un educate the lies out of my brain and put the truth in. Thanks great job!
Nupuqi Om-Re Khonectics
Chamber 45 plus degree
The degree of Noah Ark (NU), NOAH residence 10 days (Nitrogen,Oxygen,Argon, Helium) concentrate = 40 days.
Exo 9 Thermo 9 Iono 9 Mesos 9 Ozone ( The Ark ) 9 Strato 9 Tropo
I am , { MAI (I AM , MA , HYDROGEN) gaseous oxidized duat ( OBATAALLAH, Anubis, God , Allah, Atum -re , Re - cessive genes < trinity going to bring floodwaters H20 ( ICE , WATER , CLOUDS) on the earth to destroy all life (non biogenic) under the heavens , every creature that has the breath of life in it. Everything on earth will perish. Wis-om , the born 9 ADAM( Argon .934 concentrate ) lived 930 years ! This was the formation of Qi still in Argonic form which later becomes Organic (Oxygen Dominated ) . Out of NITROGEN, OXYGEN, ARGON, HELIUM came order NOAH ! O ( Oxygen , Your Genesis ) wants to destroy A ( Argon ) because A was given dominion over Qi. O (Oxygen, Satan, The devil, Woman ) was expelled from Nu ( The heavens ) to earth and given rulership over the descendants of (Adam). But I will establish my oxidized molecule with you (Ozone , Formation of water) and you will enter the ark , you and your sons and wife and your son's wives with you (Genesis). ATEN 19 You are to bring into the Ark (Nu) 2 ( pair, H2, 2 ATOMS ) of all living creatures ( Biogenic, Organic ) .
This is wis-om of the BiBle / BioBle ( BiBi ) !
@@oldcountryboy Why these otherwise intelligent men pursue this Noah's Arc lunacy is beyond me!
Its so obviously just a myth. Even a 12-year old can see its fatal flaws.
How did the flightless New Zealand Kiwi get to and from the arc? A trip of some 7,000 miles across oceans and continents.
What an enormous waste of human endeavour that could be used for better things.
Exactly. I don't even want to watch History Channel, National Geographic, etc when it relates to history of world geography etc. I love this series of talks! Finally! Yea!!!
At least u discovered the truth of the matter and accepted it.
None of this proves anything from the bible. Nothing but wild guess to attempt to prove a belief.
Any chance of you guys putting together a short computer generated movie of a more truthful look at the earth pre flood based on all the evidence???
That would be awesome to see.
God has three attributes
Omniscient - all knowing.
Omnipotent - all powerful.
Omnipresent - present in all places all the time. If you have been born again, not of flesh and blood, but of God's Holy spirit, then you will know that because God is omniscient, He wrote your name down in the Lamb's Book of Life way back in eternity past, before anything material was ever created, before Angels and Spirits were ever created. Now in one of the beginnings Created God the Heavens and the Earth. And the Earth, she had become formless and void. And Spirit God went out morning/suffering/brooding over the faces of the earth because it was in turmoil. Now we know that in Ezekiel 28 and Isaiah 14, Satan rebelled against God and was cast down to the earth and the earth was catastrophically destroyed, thats why we have an abundance of fossil fuels and fossalised remains of animals, fish and plants that existed before Lucifer rebelled. We know from Genesis chapter one, that God restored the earth over a period of six days, placing Adam in the Eden which is a throne room. Now God created the heavens and Earth a long time ago, but He created Man about six to ten thousand years ago. According to the Septugent when Jesus was born, that was about the eight thousandth year since God made Man in His Image. The Jews believed the Messiah would come in the end of seven thousand years and rule in the eighth thousandth year. The Jews had different chronological times to those who today push the young earth theory. Then we had Augustine and the founders of Christiandom (not Christianity), who propogated their ideas of replacement theology where Christiandom replaces Israel. (Which is not in accordance with the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants). Augustine was a great student of Plato, he Platonised the interpretation of the Bible. If you can't understand these things now, stick them under your hat and take them out later. The Bible says that heaven is directly up above the north pole and that hell or hades or sheol is down under the earth. According to the Bible there are three Heavens, (Mohammed has seven). Above the earth we have the atmosphe with clouds, wind and oxygen, and that's the first heaven and above that we have all the galaxies with all the space between them, called the cosmos, and that's the second heaven. The Bible in Genesis 1 says when God created the heavens and the earth, the earth had a bubble around it (uplifted waters), there really was an ocean in the sky surrounding the earth, protecing Earth from the suns rays. The Earth used to be all earth with a bubble of water surroundig it. Shortly after the great flood in the days of Peleg, God devided the land because had not gone out and multiplied, but instead built a tower way up into the sky and were worshiping pagan gods, Nimrod and his mother (the first madonna). The Bible says you go to the north part of the Earth and assend straigh up to the third heaven and thats where God is. Now the Bible says in Genesis 3:15 that God is going to send His son, the seed of a woman. Not one drop of blood from the mother goes into the child (research). Now the Hebrew Bible says that God formed man from the same element that He formed the Earth. God didn't make man from the Earth, man is a primary creation, not a secondary creation. Eve is a secondary creation, because she was made from the bone's of Adam's bone's and the fleshes of Adam's fleshes, taken from all of Adams sides. Top side, bottom side, front side, back side, left side and right side.
@Darth Quantum The evidence is there, it requires eyes that are open to see it.
@Darth Quantum
There is tons of data on a global flood. IF you want answers you will find them but you seem to have your mind made up already irregardless of data.
Darth Quantum refute their arguments one by one. Don’t just make a declaration.
I find this facinating enabling me to praise our Creator for His infinite wisdom. Can you explain the formation of oil, underground gas, the pitch that Noah used to seal the ark?
I have watched a docu about trees that were miles wide preflood......they show satellite photos of what they consider evidence of this. So my thought is maybe the ark was curved out of a single log, a large fallen mighty oak would do.......maybe even burn the inside core out of the tree......anyway super interesting, if we only knew! God is great and i also think we as humans were capable of so much more preflood. My guess with the gas is it would be similar to the garbage dumps where you have all the methane (i believe) being produced by all the microbes, the tubes coming up from the dump are vent stacks releasing the gas from what i understand......hey keep searching and learning, i love it......good day!
What was the flooding 12000 years ago?
"Persian Gulf Flood (24,000 to 14,000 years ago, or 12000 to 10000 years ago) Flooding of this area scattered peoples to both sides of the Gulf depression. It was an area fed by four rivers". This flood just scattered people not killed everyone. The flood of the bible is a story and nothing more.
@Rex Bettencourt in point of fact, it's at least 219 separate stories, from that many completely separate ancient cultures, and it was always treated as history rather than allegory or fiction by the people who passed along or recorded it in writing. We aren't disrespectful toward established scientific work when we make (very reasonable) claims like these. Those recent "scientists" are being disrespectful to every set of ancestors they have.
Another great video! I can't believe you are putting them out so fast. Keep them coming!
What about salt content in the marine mud? Anybody studied that? I'd be curious to know how much is there. There is also coal shale in the American west that's been strip mined for decades.
You are right on point about the mines and salts.
You would be freaked out to know what the salt mines really are.
The flood water's was fresh water , ask yourself why are the oceans salty???
Where did the salt come from ???
Mind blowing answers
@@NOTTHASAME so where did all the salt come from then,I'm not arguing I'm asking .I thought it was released when water washes over certain ground
@@jamesfaedtke2914 I believe it is pulled out of volcanic rock.
@@kyle18934 IF THE SALT WAS PUT THERE BY VOLCANIC ROCK, WHY ARE THE SALT FLATS AROUND THE WORLD SO FLAT ?
@@studygodsword5937 UNDERGROUND SALT FLATS ARE NOT ROUND, THEY ARE LIKE LARGE BUBBLES OF SALT FLOATING UP TO THE SURFACE.
See I can shout to. Yes the salt lakes are created from the flood, but salt is also pulled up from volcanic rock and the mantle. How do you think the oceans are so salty
Has anyone mentioned the man made objects found inside coal seems over the last century? Dolls, bells, iron bowls, chariot wheels...its amazing
Yes. John Mackay of Creation Research has documented this in his research, citing coalification is a process and not time related.
Petrifaction of wood with non-organic material imbedded within it is the ore-coalification stage.
@@klouis1886
You’re opinionated reply does not equate to fact.
unless you have proof and not wive's tales i'm calling you a liar...
@@mikeadams2351
Oooo, thems fightin’ words Yosemite Sam.
There are hundreds of pictures and articles detailing man-made artefacts embedded in coal and petrified wood.
How about you open a web browser and see for yourself. Well documented.
That is because the gigantuous dragon ate humans on the spot.
This is more than you can handle, truth must have room to form but you might have been indoctrinated by academia too much to make room.
The dragons were thousands of miles long and it was part of the reason for the flood.
Kill those that were destroying the planet.
You might have questions
It would be interesting to compare the coal structure in more remote countries such as Zimbabwe and South Africa, are these deposits from the biblical flood, or a different event?
Excellent ideas, thanks for sharing. I spent' 10 years mining in Wales so I can agree with much in this video. The one thing I can't understand from your model is how did the seat earth form?
So amazing I wish I had him for science ! I might have actually enjoyed it and been able to have a career in it!!! Instead everyone slept thru it lol
Yes, can’t beat a good teacher to bring a subject to life.
@@oldcountryboy - oh really, you traced back 100,000 years, pray tell.
" Instead everyone slept thru it lol" Yes, we know that sad fact. It is why so many of you are here believing this crap now.
@@masada2828 No, a whole lot of very learned people have documented this fact. Look. It. Up.
If you had him as a teacher you wouldn't be learning science.
Amazing series, and wonderful to see the unbridled passion of the scientists as they explain their specialties, giving glory to King Jesus.
It happened very quickly. The layers of bark and mud are from the tidal waves continuing around the globe from the major catastrophe. This catastrophe probably happened over a short period of time ie;weeks,months. These layers didn’t develope over millions of years. The coal seams may have been in place for millions of years, but the layers were created rather quickly.
5 easy steps to reading the Bible literally.
1:Study Koine Greek. A lot. Like until you’re so fluent that people who lived 2000 years ago would think you’re a native.
2: Do the same for Hebrew, only now you need to convince people who lived 3000 years ago.
3: Add Aramaic to your list of classes. Cultivate a Galilean accent.
4:Now study 3000 year old ancient cultures. Religions, politics, economics, biology and zoology for a region stretching from the headwaters of the Nile to the Fertile Crescent.
5: Then do the same for all the areas occupied by the Roman Empire 2000 years ago. The entire north coast of Africa, the Iberian peninsula, southern Europe and all of what is now known as the Middle East.
You don’t have to be able to speak Latin, but it would help to be able to read it.
If you follow these 5 easy steps you will be able to read the Bible literally.
( Maybe)
Looking for information back up a theory is fine as long as you don't distort the search to include what you want to back up that theory.
Who did that?@
I remember on my Grandfather's strip mine, you could see the seams of coal just as described by this gentleman.
Seams of coal this flood took place more than once?
@@modracer33 Don't understand your question. Could you please clarify?
These guys must piss themselves laughing when the cameras are not filming.
No kidding!! Having a beer laughing the whole time.
@@mikeprice4103 Question,... What was the time interval required for making the beer you drank?
@@larrymbouche Huh? Must be upset at me for laughing at your type of fools, LOL
Very interesting! This makes a lot of sense. I've always found it hard to believe that the local coal mine, being a mountain range, could have been a bog to produce all of this coal that we've been digging up for over 80 years
The Flood that laid down the coal, oil & peat was the world wide flood of the 1st EarthAge that lasted for millions of years covering all landmass until
Genesis 1:8-10
Even the gatekeepers of modern academia admit all the coal was laid down at once only they say it was "ago millions of years ago". They cannot even deny it was all laid down at once. When you look at the geologic record you need to make an enormous effort to ignore the very apparent fact that there was a global flood that reshaped the planet a few thousand years ago.
Thank you! I'm glad I found this. I live in Illinois near St. Louis and I find these anomalies all the time while I'm creek walking. I learned a lot from Randell Carlson and am very excited to find your channel too that supports Noah's flood taking place largely over North America.
@@klouis1886 not true at all
@@klouis1886 I live near St. Louis Mo. And just north of Alton on Rt 3 in Illinois is the confluence of the Mississippi, Illinois and Missouri rivers where you can see 100-150 tall bluffs with water Eddys carved out all the way to the top. That's crystal clear evidence the of melt waters from the end of the ice age being so massive they could have caused the global flood. That kind of evidence can be found from Washington state all the way to Ohio. Believe what you want, I'll believe what I can see and touch for myself.
The only thing is carlson isnt a follower of Christ
@@mississippibottoms206 the glaciers and whatnot resulted after the flood, but their melt waters are what carved and created most of the formations we see on the land of the US today!!
@@diychad7268 Carlson could follow any of the messiahs that history has given us and that wouldn't change my opinion of his research. What facts do you have to back up that the iceage was caused by the global flood and not the other way around? If your theory is correct based solely on who you worship then the bible is admittedly incorrect when it states the earth 10,000 years old.
I just love this guys energy and passion
My, this is impressive !
It is refreshing to get closer to the truth, at last. What a wonderful work you're doing ! Thank you so much
Coal could have only formed in catastrophic conditions such as a massive flood or "tsunami"...the "swamp formation" theory would require the trees to die, then get buried, then trees to grow again, and so on over and over until a thick layer of coal would be formed...Immanuel Velikovsky ("Earth in Upheaval", "Worlds in Collision" ) explained this (and many other mysteries) VERY WELL 50 years ago..his work is well worth reading...
Hi i asked steve this question about a year ago, but got no answer ?
Hi Steve, i used to work down a coal mine in England, the coal seam was 5ft to 10ft thick and there was coal seams at 612 meters. 912 meters and 1062 meters down with mostly lime stone and shale in between !
can you please explain this as in regards to a world wide flood ? there were many fern type leaf fossils either side of the coal seams too !
Gaz we see that here in queensland also and spread over huge distances (1500km) and typically it is in 3 layers. The highest of these in elevation is typically low grade anthrocite which is almost charcoal like when compared to the hard coking coal layers down lower. It has a distinct line usually further inland, then there is a mored dense midde layer which is also the most abundant and it is not far above the bottom layer. Looking at where they are and how they look the best theory I can come up with is 1 layer was the initial inrush as water pushed trees into an area & that was then covered with material as the water receded & then the next two were receding layers 1 being the heavy shoreline material & the other being the deposition of bark from the log matts. It is also interesting to fly over these areas and note how the hilss and valley reflect how sand moves with the tides, & when you think how soft these hills were post flood it fits well. i dont see long term erosion as these area now are so dry with almost no water flows
Yeah, I don't think they ever respond to comments here. I'm not an expert, so take this with a grain of salt, but the standard flood scenario has the earth covered with water and multiple waves of different types of material (imagine continent-wide tsunamis of mud or organic matter) being deposited in layers at different times as massive flood currents circulate around the earth. I would speculate that in your example, a layer of organic material was deposited then covered with a wave of sediment, then another layer of organic material followed by another wave of sediment, and so forth. There was also a lot of post-flood activity as the waters subsided.
Exactly I'm glad I found your reply I was going to do the same but didn't have to . again I agree
Thanks for the answers, seams plausible all of the shale limestone in-between had fossilized plants when you cracked the rock open, my dad was working a new tunnel and when they were cutting the floor, deeper than the shale limestone floor at this particular point there was a flattened out tree going across the tunnel roadway, so they dug around it with picks and shovels, it was 5 foot wide and about 4 inches deep, you could see the ribs on the bark, a section of it was cut out and sent out of the pit on a flat bed truck and I think it went to a museum !
ahhhhhh another cliff hangin episode of the Coal Files W/ Del and Dr. Wise!!!! I can handle it only if ya promise to keep the story going- other than that im going to have to request another full length doc be made hahaha...Keep up "the good work". Your collective ministry, your brilliant minds and engaging personalities were totally bestowed upon you for such a time as this...I see no other source of truth education such as this, yet I know you can't be the only folks in your fields to engage in such vigorous truth seeking/finding.If only the cause would ignite a larger movement in the scientific community,, a paradigm shift of dare I say, biblical proportions... but He has given us free will, there is no changing that(?) so opinions, reasonings, findings, conclusions will be what they will accordingly. We seem to be so caught up in believing whatever we fancy, when we fancy it, then dropping it as soon as we don't and picking up another belief to fill the void that actual facts don't even come into the decision making process at times- we just construct explanations based on personal or societal opinion, call it factual and roll on with it writing and rewriting the narrative as we go in a feeble attempt to "create" our personalized happy ending or our acceptable version of how we got here, why we are here, if there's anything before here, after here or outside of here...out there....And all the while our great adversary laughs....I believe..Laughs at how easily we are distracted and manipulated, misdirected, blinded and made deaf. Mmmmm.....oh, but i've wandered myself throughout the body of this comment!
it began, and was meant to be a praise and thank you note, that I turned into a soap box and I apologize. i get too wound up and then ramble far too long on topics unrelated...Time now to travel on and rant in another comment box down the rabbit hole that is youtube...cu there ;D
So you refuse to consider the evidence in any case? Disturbs your ideology and that too precious to be endangered by facts?
Amazing how the log mats got accumulated and then got all these other rock layers piled on top.
Once again I've learned something new! Thank you.
@@oldcountryboy stop it with real history...next you'll be saying the exodus never happened and really freak these guys out...
yes you may have learnt something new,,,,,, but not true,,,, just another "lets design the world to fit the myths of some crusty old book".
I cracked up at the part where he said coal takes the longest to form, like forever.. It takes three to four weeks😂😂😂
It's crazy how coal takes the longest to form as how the conventional paradigm theorizes😂
Yes, but he did say it was at 100 degrees C , and probably under high pressure. The temperature of the seas would not have been 100 deg C , as they would have killed all the fish and evaporated away. It would be good to know how long it takes to turn bark to coal at normal ambient temperatures and moderate pressures.
And just so you know, 100 degrees Celsius is 212 degrees Fahrenheit, Water boils at 200F. Did the seas boil for 40 days and 40 nights?
Love learning new things about this place we call home!
nothing new about these two lying..but you missed that lesson...
...and in the next video we'll explain how all the marsupials were able to share an Uber from Mt. Ararat to Sydney.
Fantastic! Thank you so much!
yes Genesis is history
You gentlemen have been doing a great job with geology. Is it possible for you to look into Noah's ark that Ron Wyatt brought to light? Your expettise would be very useful in backing up the makeup of the materials in the object claimed as the ark. Thank you.
The one thing I don't understand is the flat bottom everywhere that coal formed. Can someone explain that?
They covered that. Coal layers are flat on the top and bottom because water is flat on its top. Its one of their best jokes.
Young Earth Creation Wins The Day Everyday!! This channel has been very helpful in understanding that.
It has not. Not even once. Isn't lying a sin?
More than just logs. All living material in a floating sinking mat.
You never really know the true origins of the world, but lets just appreciate the gifts of the present.
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
what an amazing series. I hope you get translators to make subtitles in more languages on it
@Is Genesis history? I would like you to address what are the reasons behind dinosaur footprints on the ceilings of coal seams! I've seen videos of coal mines with these footprints on the ceilings.
In Grande Cache Alberta, there are , in the information centre foot prints of dinosaurs that were vertical . Earth moves and that how mountains are formed .
If frogs had wings they wouldn't have to bump their asses every time they hopped.
This is a great documentary.
ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make sense to me,I always thought scientist were way off on how old rock are ,and how long it takes to form them I'll be taking a look into your other videos
Not quite. The measurements and ages are fairly accurate. Sure they can't put the exact day and time it formed, but the age is still accurate. If a rock is dated to be 50 million years old, then there's going to be a difference of a few hundred years either way.
He already proved this theory in washington state from the mount st hellen blast the lake below has proven this
We tend to forget that the moon was still out there creating a worldwide Tidel surge that must have been massive.. sweeping around the Earth ..All that muddy water creating hundreds of layers of sediment If Noah's flood lasted a year 2 high tides to low tides every day
Good point indeed, massive tidal surges
You guys will be very interested in what is noted on the Sumerian clay tablet's, it elaborates much more about the deluge (great flood). If remember correctly the ocean was raging for a1000 years.
I know of a blind spot in the education of geologists. They tell us that our planet Earth has the most to fear from an asteroid impact or volcano eruptions. But when we look at the many horizontal layers that we find everywhere on our planet, we clearly see the effect of a repeating cataclysm. These disasters are mentioned in ancient books like the Mahabharata from India and the Popol Vuh from the Maya but also in the Bible. They tell us about a cycle of seven disasters that separate the world eras. Certainly, regularly recurring global disasters cannot be caused by asteroid impacts or volcanic eruptions. The only possible cause is another celestial body, a planet, orbiting our sun in an eccentric orbit. Then it is close to the sun for a short period and after the crossing at a very high speed it disappears into the universe for a long time. These disasters cause a huge tidal wave of seawater that washes over land "above the highest mountains." At the end it covers the earth with a layer of wet mud, a mixture of sand, clay, lime, fossils of marine and terrestrial animals and small and larger meteorites. Forests that existed are flattened and because of the pressure from the layers on top the wood is changed into coal. These disasters also create a cycle of civilizations. To learn much more about the recurring flood cycle, the re-creation of civilizations and its chronology and ancient high technology, read the e-book: "Planet 9 = Nibiru". It can be read on any computer, tablet or smartphone. Search: invisible nibiru 9
Those Penguins had a heck of a trek to get on that ark and back
They are aquatic and didn't have to be on the ark. They could've stayed in the water, as long as two survived, it's all good. But, maybe they made that trek, God would've seen them thru
Shows how many double backflips it takes when you begin with your conclusion. For example - a literal interpretation of genesis.
Your comment shows you understood NOTHING in this video
no other interpretation is permitted, the apostles and christ himself spoke of this account as real so it is, you deny one part of the bible you deny the whole thing
@Steve Whalley to stretch or to vex them?
@@TS-jm7jm yes
This is not an argument. What, exactly, did you disagree with? Explain your reasoning.
Very interesting, and coherently argued.
It's so cool to learn that what they taught us in school was only a scratch on the surface of the world.
it's cool to learn they'll never teach this BS in schools...because of things like real archeaology that has put the lie to the exodus story...ask some eygptians if they ever had ten plagues including dying first borns...what a crock...
@@mikeadams2351 What are you talking about?
God is a great planner.
Yep, that's why he has to constantly come back and clean it all up.
Very True, God sees the future , So he already knows how its going to happen !! Amazing !!
Dr. Wise, these videos are so informative and enlightening. Have you ever considered compressing the key points into factual outlines, booklet form? for educational and evangelism tool?
The formation of coal and why it all formed in a relatively short period of time is well understood.
Why are these guys inventing different convoluted explanations?
I am not sure if your videos discuss the fact that many different history of people's and tribes and nations all talk about either there having been a flood, or that 8 people were saved by building a ship, or that there was some divine warning given.
In fact the Chinese symbol for boat is a combination of the words 8. People. Boat.
Interesting that in the ancient past something happened that was so indeled in people's mind that they al had some type of account of it.
Yet today people prefer not to remember that history.
I feel like the underlying concepts in this film touch on providing an understanding of how Adam and his posterity were each able to live several hundred years. After the flood, and more specifically after the division of the earth (Peleg), the years of life of began to diminish to what they currently are today. Interesting to consider the differences in the plant life antediluvian and post (whereas man breathes the same "air" as those plants, perhaps clues to that longevity of life pre-division?). It would maybe seem that the atmosphere (firmament) changed significantly when the massive "earth-division" event happened (identifying the differences in the plants). Just a thought...
The earth testifies of the flood, pure science and pure religion are one in the same.
I asked a guy from a university who was digging in some strata how he could tell from what period the layer he was digging was from he said they noted what fossils were in the layer. I saw another guy digging and asked him how he dated the fossils he was digging he said they dated them by what strata they were found in LMAO!!!!!!!
Yea, the "circular reasoning" of the "experts".
I'm a geologists and this you stated is true, well true that that's how dating occurs anyways, straight nonsense and guesses at best!! The bible LITERALLY is true
@@diychad7268 You my friend are clearly lying. smh But I expect nothing less from someone who believes the Bible is literally true.
@@michaelbradley7529 you seem so sure of yourself. I’d like to know what you believe to be true?
@@cc3775 I believe to be true that which is supported by evidence and comports with the reality we all live in. The difference between what I believe and those who rely on an ancient book that says a thing, is that my belief can and must change with new evidence. I have a higher standard of truth based on facts and evidence than those who's only standard is faith.
Seems like whenever artifacts are found in coal indicating past technology, the mine is shut down, usually around 90meters in depth
The only thing he left out of the equation for making: coal in 3 to 4 weeks in a lab was how much pressure they used. Naturally occurring layers at the bottom of a lake would not have intense pressure on them.
Good point….
Water depth adds massive pressure.
@@qbeard1 not that massive really….1 bar (14.7psi) per 10 metres ,or 30 feet …… not really that intense.