There's a really cool alternative invade strategy that my challenger coach mentioned to me a while ago that wasn't on here. It goes something like this.. If you are the blue team and you'd start by invading the enemy red warding raptors before you finish it, do krugs, then path back to your blue. This will have the enemy jungler arriving to his raptors when you're doing blue, they will then likely do them, realize their camps are gone and 9 times out of 10 they will gank top or mid. With knowing this in mind you go to counter gank whatever lane they try to gank at, and if they do a 3 camp into gank you can pivot into clearing down. Severely limits the enemies options and most of the time has them play right into your hand. Good map and lane state awareness is required for this path to work so a bit of practice and skill will be necessary for optimal results.
In a team match this won’t provide you with a lead. You will have someone in position to see the invade and the other jungler should just match the blue side red jungle quadrant. In this case you’re just initiating a vertical clear. Which works really well if you want to apply all your pressure to the top side of the map and dive top. GM+ players will know what to do in this situation, but I’ve seen diamond and even master junglers make mistakes in these scenarios so it does work in lower elo.
IT's jungler here, I got a cool one Rogue. Late invade raptors against champs that like to start at that camp. The idea is a lot of the champs that like to start raptors are usually weak early so you can push them off easily putting them massive behind. You've probably seen it in some of our games.
Enemy raptors -> gank mid -> your raptors -> your red. Wokrs on champions with very strong lvl2 ganks great in low elos, could be good in high elo. Note, for you to hit lvl 3 from red you need to tax 3 meelee minions of xp(ranged minions give half as much xp) Enemy raptors -> killing enemy jungler on buff. Works only in low elo, but should br very good. and you can do the same thing with wolves and blue. Your champion needs to clear wolves faster than they clear the buff
Your game knowledge and tutorials are superb! I just subscribed to your Patreon! I'm aiming for Grandmaster on ADC this year and those kind of videos is just what I was looking for
5:55 Important obscure detail on the 2nd clear, the raptor super clear. It's actually counterproductive to use smite on the respawned krugs and clear them too quickly. Here, Broxah kills the big krug at ~4:29, but your jg pet treat 'spawns' at ~4:31. Because he misses this treat before recalling, he's down an extra 20g and has to wait an extra 10 seconds for his classic dark seal + fated ashes purchase. So rather than speed up his path, the smite actually slowed him down overall. For pretty much every applicable champ on this clear, I recommend learning it with the first smite on the red buff, not krugs, for optimal overall speed, and then dont use smite on the respawned krugs. This way you should secure that extra treat gold (its possible to still clear too fast on diana and udyr, so careful of that), and you should still be able to reach your respawned wolves about right on time, without that extra smite use.
This s*** is pure gold! It doesn't mention my favorite clear though which would specifically be done in solo queue. The top side two camp invade. I find this invade works really well because a lot of junglers will path bot side to their first camp and some top laners are either lazy or their matchup favors them camping top immediately. You can steal their buff and one camp then do your own full clear, doing the scuttle crab right after your wolves / raptors. Upside you steal away two of their camps and out level for neutral objectives. Downside, enemy will gank top and possibly mid. They usually also end up wasting a lot of their time walking to check their camps and your topside camps.
Red -> raptors -> gromp -> for a fast lvl 3 with red buff. This takes 2 minor caps of the map, instead of only one in a normal x2 buff+gromp clear. If there is no gank available, you can start a reverse clear.
@@CoachRogue Also it is the fastest lvl 3 with red buff clear. Good for when you really need to gank early. But I find getting to level 4 is a bit awkward compared to other clears, so I would only do it on junglers that don't like krugs any way and want to do a lot of fighting/ganking at level 3 instead of farming. Another plus for the clear is that the raptors are off the map, which is the easiest camp to counter jungle. So you remove that option for the enemy jungler when you are on the other side of the map fighting
Know where enemy jg starts, go to his other side and take all camps, then return to the side closer to his or if its high elo to your opposite side to prevent invades, then end with your last remaining side.
Ye can also plop a wars in river as youre leaving his quadrant. You can use pings to let your solo laners know if/when a counterinvade is coming so they can pick up a free kill even if they dont have hard prio.
i actually like starting bot red and take just that. the enemy starts blue and pass gromp and go to wolves. what i do is take only red and go blast cone in his face while he has half hp on wolves, if he get away he wastes so much time recalling cause if not he might die to the chickens hahaha ez kill. p.s. where the panth went? i saw him on the map when viego invaded
I watched your video on timers. It cut off at 30 min saying “macro doesn’t matter”. Can you please make a video about what to do after 30 minutes (for all roles)?
Faster to get to blue than gromp, especially with the wall jump, plus sequencing the camps respawn more quickly isn't necessary as I'll be spending time on enemy raptors and will be late to respawns as a result anyway
beginner shyvana main here, currently bronze 2, i'll try out the dragon clear if i remember to and let you know! it'll be at least a day before i play another game tho
What i love about Rogue's videos is that he keeps it realistic. Saying downsides, and even showing examples where the 1 in a million event somehow happens when it's the only way for your plan to not work.
Path 4 is inverted grub clear from when they first launched, Phylaris was the first place many of us learned about it: ruclips.net/video/f8dQQvW124c/видео.html
3:04 okay I'll do this in my games !! You have been slain !! WHAT THE **** that video SUCKS !! BRO YOU LOST ME 82 LP !! Bro: what rank are you? Me: ... Iron 3 *Bro has left the chat*
There's a really cool alternative invade strategy that my challenger coach mentioned to me a while ago that wasn't on here. It goes something like this.. If you are the blue team and you'd start by invading the enemy red warding raptors before you finish it, do krugs, then path back to your blue. This will have the enemy jungler arriving to his raptors when you're doing blue, they will then likely do them, realize their camps are gone and 9 times out of 10 they will gank top or mid. With knowing this in mind you go to counter gank whatever lane they try to gank at, and if they do a 3 camp into gank you can pivot into clearing down. Severely limits the enemies options and most of the time has them play right into your hand. Good map and lane state awareness is required for this path to work so a bit of practice and skill will be necessary for optimal results.
this is the reason why you are supposed to ward the opposite buff every game.. this is where it come from
In a team match this won’t provide you with a lead. You will have someone in position to see the invade and the other jungler should just match the blue side red jungle quadrant.
In this case you’re just initiating a vertical clear. Which works really well if you want to apply all your pressure to the top side of the map and dive top.
GM+ players will know what to do in this situation, but I’ve seen diamond and even master junglers make mistakes in these scenarios so it does work in lower elo.
That is indeed the dream. Only works if the enemy lets you start on their jungle and has no information about it tho
IT's jungler here, I got a cool one Rogue. Late invade raptors against champs that like to start at that camp. The idea is a lot of the champs that like to start raptors are usually weak early so you can push them off easily putting them massive behind. You've probably seen it in some of our games.
I love when the lvl 1 raptors fiesta turns into an all out brawl haha.
I didn't think to include it since late invading raptors isn't really a 'path'
@@CoachRogue lol yeah can't forget the 10 men raptors start. But that's fair point it isn't really a path but a cheese maybe?
Enemy raptors -> gank mid -> your raptors -> your red. Wokrs on champions with very strong lvl2 ganks great in low elos, could be good in high elo. Note, for you to hit lvl 3 from red you need to tax 3 meelee minions of xp(ranged minions give half as much xp)
Enemy raptors -> killing enemy jungler on buff. Works only in low elo, but should br very good. and you can do the same thing with wolves and blue. Your champion needs to clear wolves faster than they clear the buff
Your game knowledge and tutorials are superb! I just subscribed to your Patreon! I'm aiming for Grandmaster on ADC this year and those kind of videos is just what I was looking for
5:55 Important obscure detail on the 2nd clear, the raptor super clear. It's actually counterproductive to use smite on the respawned krugs and clear them too quickly. Here, Broxah kills the big krug at ~4:29, but your jg pet treat 'spawns' at ~4:31. Because he misses this treat before recalling, he's down an extra 20g and has to wait an extra 10 seconds for his classic dark seal + fated ashes purchase. So rather than speed up his path, the smite actually slowed him down overall.
For pretty much every applicable champ on this clear, I recommend learning it with the first smite on the red buff, not krugs, for optimal overall speed, and then dont use smite on the respawned krugs. This way you should secure that extra treat gold (its possible to still clear too fast on diana and udyr, so careful of that), and you should still be able to reach your respawned wolves about right on time, without that extra smite use.
Absolutely phenomenal video im saving this for future reference
Very interested in adding the Razork Invade to my possible opens, thanks for the video
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Such a great comprehensive guide. I can't wait to try some of these paths.
Amazing vid, loved the detail and breakdown of the reasoning behind each clear besides just throwing it up!
Very informative. Just I was looking for. Thanks
This s*** is pure gold!
It doesn't mention my favorite clear though which would specifically be done in solo queue. The top side two camp invade. I find this invade works really well because a lot of junglers will path bot side to their first camp and some top laners are either lazy or their matchup favors them camping top immediately.
You can steal their buff and one camp then do your own full clear, doing the scuttle crab right after your wolves / raptors. Upside you steal away two of their camps and out level for neutral objectives. Downside, enemy will gank top and possibly mid.
They usually also end up wasting a lot of their time walking to check their camps and your topside camps.
Red -> raptors -> gromp -> for a fast lvl 3 with red buff. This takes 2 minor caps of the map, instead of only one in a normal x2 buff+gromp clear.
If there is no gank available, you can start a reverse clear.
This is both a 3 camp gank, and super clear at the same time god dayum
@@CoachRogue Also it is the fastest lvl 3 with red buff clear. Good for when you really need to gank early. But I find getting to level 4 is a bit awkward compared to other clears, so I would only do it on junglers that don't like krugs any way and want to do a lot of fighting/ganking at level 3 instead of farming. Another plus for the clear is that the raptors are off the map, which is the easiest camp to counter jungle. So you remove that option for the enemy jungler when you are on the other side of the map fighting
love your videos, because you often talk about things that I wouldn't have thought about
Know where enemy jg starts, go to his other side and take all camps, then return to the side closer to his or if its high elo to your opposite side to prevent invades, then end with your last remaining side.
Or even recall before taking your last side, then you check it and if its not stolen you do it, if it is you invade his side camps into a gank
Ye can also plop a wars in river as youre leaving his quadrant. You can use pings to let your solo laners know if/when a counterinvade is coming so they can pick up a free kill even if they dont have hard prio.
It made me smile when you started reading what is better on lvl 2 kha'zix
LMFAO I've been exposed
a kayn taking a blue and gromp :D rofl these clips were gold
Fantastic vid. I hope it doesn't become useless next season XD
i actually like starting bot red and take just that. the enemy starts blue and pass gromp and go to wolves. what i do is take only red and go blast cone in his face while he has half hp on wolves, if he get away he wastes so much time recalling cause if not he might die to the chickens hahaha ez kill.
p.s. where the panth went? i saw him on the map when viego invaded
I also sometimes like to start at raptors or wolves clear one quadrant and then base and pick up a darkseal into an instant gank
This used to be really popular but for a Doran's blade when it was buffed! Not a huge fan of the clean anymore tho
I watched your video on timers. It cut off at 30 min saying “macro doesn’t matter”. Can you please make a video about what to do after 30 minutes (for all roles)?
what jungle clear do you think works best for ekko?
You're a genius! I feel like I have the intellect of a challenger player but stuck in bronze HAHAHAHAHA
Why did you do blue before gromp in path 3?
Faster to get to blue than gromp, especially with the wall jump, plus sequencing the camps respawn more quickly isn't necessary as I'll be spending time on enemy raptors and will be late to respawns as a result anyway
Awesome video
Would Vi work well on Razork Invade??
beginner shyvana main here, currently bronze 2, i'll try out the dragon clear if i remember to and let you know! it'll be at least a day before i play another game tho
update: first game went badly because i started wolves on red side only realizing halfway through that i'd finish on grubs once i was done
What i love about Rogue's videos is that he keeps it realistic. Saying downsides, and even showing examples where the 1 in a million event somehow happens when it's the only way for your plan to not work.
Path 4 is inverted grub clear from when they first launched, Phylaris was the first place many of us learned about it: ruclips.net/video/f8dQQvW124c/видео.html
don't remember the video exactly, but there was a time when you did only one grub for the xp...funny times
I have no idea if it only applies to smurfing, but I never do drakes in low elo, because I can do better stuff in this time and snowball
Nice
Then autofill jungler gank lvl 2 and mid afk
3:04 okay I'll do this in my games !!
You have been slain !!
WHAT THE **** that video SUCKS !!
BRO YOU LOST ME 82 LP !!
Bro: what rank are you?
Me: ... Iron 3
*Bro has left the chat*
What even is the point of grading the paths when almost all of them are "amazing"? Some of them are definitely stronger than others
Best path? Uninstalling league
No. It’s dedicating all your free time to league and destroying your relationship with friends and family for league. All hail the league of legends.