Everyone Is Hating On Tekken 8 So I Revisted Tekken 7

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  • Опубликовано: 11 янв 2025

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  • @OddSauce
    @OddSauce День назад +38

    I think you're conflating "design" with "art style", it's not that T7 had bad design, in fact I think characters had some of the coolest redesigns in years. The problem is that the 3D models from the vanilla game (pre-console release) are ATROCIOUS. they did NOT have any budget after the disaster that was tag 2.

    • @Bagszszs
      @Bagszszs День назад +24

      Tag 2 models looked better than T7 I swear

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @@OddSauce I think both, art style and character designs could be said since both go into the same point in how the characters look haha. I also said that there are some character designs that look fine but thank you for clarifying that 💜

    • @justevolve
      @justevolve День назад +3

      Tag 2 was a great game broken but great

  • @AngeloGene
    @AngeloGene 2 дня назад +19

    5 minutes in... Miguel was introduced in Tekken 6.
    Jin bombed the place, Miguel's sister died.

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +4

      @@AngeloGene Yeah… I made sure to check everything while editing this video LOL. I put the clarification on the screen but thank you 🤝

  • @hyperstarkage3618
    @hyperstarkage3618 День назад +9

    Tekken 8 story is fun, but it doesn’t have treasure battles, no other game modes and a greedy customization and battle pass. Treasure battles gave me stuff to do and unlock. The dlc for 7 is fun, the dlc in 8 is boring for season 1

  • @JDarkAngeI
    @JDarkAngeI День назад +9

    27:17 nahh tekken 6 is the one with S tier customization

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      So I heard 😔

  • @luxerhusku2609
    @luxerhusku2609 День назад +4

    If you think Tekken 7's customization is better than 8, wait till you see 6's customization. Puts both 7 and 8 to utter shame.

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      Yeah I heard Tekken 6’s customization had the best customization ☹️

    • @SnakeInTheRain
      @SnakeInTheRain 7 часов назад

      The thing is 7's customization is worse overall. The only thing it did better was the mixing and matching of certain clothing types. But you had worse items and less customizable parts, like no default hair color change, no eye colors, no shoes, the clothes didn't fit as well, no adjustable accessory placement either

  • @HELLRAISER02
    @HELLRAISER02 День назад +8

    To my knowledge: harada and murrey are walking dead fans, and they thought hed be fitting and uh, AMC said yes so

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +2

      @@HELLRAISER02 while editing the video I researched this and saw something like this. It’s still random asl tho😭

  • @marcelluscor7917
    @marcelluscor7917 10 часов назад

    In my opinion: there should never be a point in a match where you can have a lead and get sloppy and not get absolutely humbled. And with both players having the same tools available and one blows everything early only to get uno reversed because they got complacent. I think that's good. There are still staggers, whiffs, and block frames, so it's dropping the skill floor and raising the skill ceiling at the same time

  • @nuttyspasmaloid4587
    @nuttyspasmaloid4587 День назад +5

    fun vid but a little correction, perfect electric and EWGF are really different. Perfect electric is 14f and electric is just df+2 hit simultaneously

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @@nuttyspasmaloid4587 I should’ve put more detail on that. Thank you friend ❗️

    • @nihoggr2392
      @nihoggr2392 День назад +7

      Not to be that guy but PWGF=Perfect Electric God Fist is actually 13f with the whole motion done within a single frame essentially or at least the f-df+2 if i remember right. This is only doable by Kazuya in T7. EWGF=Electric Wind God Fist is done from a crouch dash or if there's multiple of them it's called a wave dash and it's 14f with only the df+2 needing to be pressed withing a single frame. A WGF=Wind God Fist is just any df+2 input done withing a crouch or a wave dash and has no strict timing but by far is worse in every regard to the previous ones with PWGF being the same as EWGF in every effect but the fact that it comes out a single frame faster which only happens cause of Kazuya's unique mist step that he gets from inputting just f--n=Tapping forward and releasing as n= Neutral input so no buttons being pressed or held for a few frames

  • @justevolve
    @justevolve День назад +10

    Tekken 7 was way better in gameplay

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 День назад +2

      Yeah, korean backdash simulator 7 was truly the peak of fighting games.

    • @justevolve
      @justevolve День назад +5

      @arpadszabo661 ig heat smash 50/50 simulator is better lol? Laughable

    • @Hexifying1
      @Hexifying1 18 часов назад +4

      @@justevolve saying T8 is a true 50/50 simulator is pure conjecture. Better player will almost always win sets in T8. & true 50/50 aren’t as common as people act like they are.

    • @SnakeInTheRain
      @SnakeInTheRain 7 часов назад +1

      The gameplay is almost the same except you had worse sidesteps, no heat, and way too many counter hit launchers. Excluding the what system, tekken 8's gameplay is better across the board, as well as everything else about the game

  • @SwipeGuy
    @SwipeGuy День назад +4

    I play fighting games on my channel. Tekken 7 was a lot of fun. I was a lili main, then zafina and then anna , then kasumi, lidia, katarina. It was fun. Had some issues but not as bad as tekken 8. They made a lot of things easier in tekken 8 for example jin is prime example. You actually had to have skill to play jin whereas now everything so easy on top of extra moves to make him more broken. And this game had infinite stages which is awesome. Why tekken 8 doesnt i have no idea

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@SwipeGuy imma check your channel out. And yeah Jin is top tier in Tekken 8 and is wayyy too easy to play LOL. Theres only 1 infinite stage in Tekken 8 😂😂😂. They meant it when they said that they wanted the game to be more aggressive 😀

  • @Brealfrank25
    @Brealfrank25 День назад +7

    Its the heat for me. Yoshimitsu is ridiculous

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +2

      @@Brealfrank25 yeah Yoshi is insane 😭

    • @deanbrooks7297
      @deanbrooks7297 19 часов назад +1

      So is Lydia, Nina and now Clive

  • @ShadowBlade79
    @ShadowBlade79 6 часов назад

    I gotta say it. Sidestepping in T7 is pretty trash.......especially compared to previous entries. It means you had to know a helluva lot more about who you're fighting in order to defend properly. You're right about Rage Arts versus Rage Drives though. The Drive had more utility across a majority of the cast.
    But I would honestly take that over what we have now in T8.

  • @Superfoodcookie
    @Superfoodcookie 21 час назад +5

    The "everyone is leaving tekken 8" is a very small yet loud af reddit community. End of the day after 1 year in it holds an average of 7-8k players on steam. Meanwhile tekken 7 held 3k its performing 2x better in player retension. The 10% tekken community who think their opinion represents the 90% is hilarious. They have this weird toxic relationship with the game where they hate the game yet cant stop playing it.

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  17 часов назад

      Sounds like a Fortnite relationship 😭

    • @itzrezo8621
      @itzrezo8621 15 часов назад

      @@Zoom7k or overwatch

    • @iTzJay0
      @iTzJay0 8 часов назад

      and you can tell by the tekken 7 player numbers atm too lol

    • @Czulki
      @Czulki 8 часов назад

      My guy, Tekken 8 now has less active players than Tekken 7 had in its fourth year.

    • @Superfoodcookie
      @Superfoodcookie 3 часа назад

      @Czulki what bs reddit news is this lol. On steam alone it holds an average 7-8k players. Meanwhile tekken 7 had around 3k after 1 year? It's doing just fine. Problem is, this very small yet very very loud reddit community who hate the game yet cant stop playing it. They think that their small 10% opinion represent the 90% majority, they don't. The majority dont even pay attention to the toxicity. They just play and enjoy the game. Player count alone it's holding better player retension.

  • @KazakTheGamingVagabond
    @KazakTheGamingVagabond 2 дня назад +9

    Tbh, this was actually a tough question because I use to not like Tekken 7 but after playing Tekken 8, I appreciate it T7 a little more.
    One of the things I really hate in Tekken 8 is the trash microtransactions practices. We shouldn't have to pay for costumes like Jin's T4 hoodie. Especially when the customization in Tekken 8 is really lacking. I get having DLC content in the game but it's execution is not good.
    Gameplay wise, Tekken 7 feels more fulfilling than Tekken 8. Like I enjoy Tekken 8 but there's no denying that the learning curve in the game is way easier.
    The only things I would give Tekken 8 props for is the story mode, content, and visuals. As much as I enjoy Tekken 7 but I can't lie, the visuals just look rough in my opinion. Overall great video bro! 🔥🔥

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  2 дня назад +1

      Thank you for the in depth response on my video bro I appreciate you. Definitely agree with you on your points💜❗️

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 День назад +1

      Eh, Tekken 7 costumization was already pretty garbage with quantity over quality with most of the pants and shirts being copypastes with different logos or colors, even the full body costumes were just different color (normal, silver, gold) and they called it a day. Tekken 8 on release had more customization variety than that and most things look good. I just don’t know why some of the hairs are noticably lower quality than the others. I take paying a few dollars for the few pieces i like over free recolors. Old costumes shouldn’t be payed dlc though, that’s just disrespectful to their own franchise. But at least we are only buying cosmetics now, unlike Tekken 7, where we had to buy frame data for practice mode as dlc. To this day they didn’t come up with a bigger bs than that. The battlepass is bs though, i can only excuse it because they are not raising its price and i just bought it one time and i can buy it again with the currency it gives back.
      Tekken 7’s gameplay is more fulfilling if you take your time to get good, they just went the SF6 route with appealing to casuals. Tekken 7 was around 2k players after a month and stayed there until the end with the exception of Noctis release. While 8 still has around 6-8k after a year. Of course these are just steam numbers so we don’t know the whole story. But their tactic seems to be working.
      Both Capcom and Bandai seems to be going for the “screw the old players, they whined about all our games when they were current anyway so lets bring in new people with accessibility and visuals” route.

  • @evilmudkip73
    @evilmudkip73 День назад +2

    Great video, but I believe it’s WAY too soon to compare both games. Tekken 8 came out not too long ago and we’re just wrapping up season 1. Maybe after we get through the future seasons, we’ll see. Still, good work

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @@evilmudkip73 Thank you brother 💜and yeah it is a little too early to compare the games especially with all the dlc not being out (that’s why I didn’t really criticize the dlc roster to it’s entirety) but we could definitely compare the gameplay and the overall game in its totality. God bless you❗️

  • @dominiclacroix9489
    @dominiclacroix9489 День назад +2

    i always loved the tekken serie but as a casual, bought 2-3 and 5. I never found it THAT appealing to take it seriously so i played Mortal Kombat and DBFZ. Tekken 8 is the first one where the gameplay balance is where i wanted to take it seriously. To me, other tekken were too slow and thats why i also cant get into street fighter, i prefer the adrenaline rush pace. Tekken 8 is the first tekken i play online, im about 700 hours played and im tekken king, i had to learn a shit ton to get tehre

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +2

      @@dominiclacroix9489 dang 700 hours is crazy. I’m glad you was able to find your game❗️

  • @sebastianmoscoso9404
    @sebastianmoscoso9404 День назад +1

    imo the production of the stories was better in t8, but the actual STORY although lackluster is actually better in t7, simple yet no over the top anime shit or shit that just doesn't make any sense and is completely forced lol. final battle kazuya vs heihachi cannot be topped

  • @larrywoolfolk8224
    @larrywoolfolk8224 2 дня назад +2

    Not saying that dlc should pay to win, but lets keep it a buck i dont think anyone would fork over money for "low tier fan favorite that 3 people in the world play"

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @@larrywoolfolk8224 You right I can’t lie LOL. It’s just crazy that they go that route tho😔

    • @larrywoolfolk8224
      @larrywoolfolk8224 День назад

      @@Zoom7k The main issue is that you should pay to use them but should be able to fight them for free for MU knowledge

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @ That’s very true❗️ but we know dang well they not gonna do that 😭

    • @Dhampire1976
      @Dhampire1976 День назад

      Base roster had Akuma Kazuya and Steve so this game wasn't pay to win. You paid for the game to win lmao

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 День назад +1

      To be fair, Tekken 8 is doing okay with the balancing of their dlc’s so far. Of course they overtuned Clive on purpose to please the FF devs, just like with Noctis, but he’ll get nerfed soon anyway. Eddy, Lidia, Heihachi were nicely balanced. At least none of them were broken. My only issue is how utterly braindead they made Eddy.

  • @Dhampire1976
    @Dhampire1976 День назад

    Tekken 8 had the better story,graphics and ost,but man they fell off so hard in every other way from roster,redesigns to gameplay itself. This was the last "true" Tekken,the one I played online and at locals with competitively and dedicated so many hours to learning Tekken.

  • @nick2cut
    @nick2cut День назад

    Personally I can’t decide bc I haven’t spent much time with 7 but I will say 8 has been a lot of fun and I feel people overlook the gameplay with the aggression stuff. My own experience I can play with a plan and be defense or offensive if needed. You can mash but you’ll get eaten up. I do understand the game is easier in some aspects but for me it doesn’t take away from the experience. That’s just me tho

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  18 часов назад

      Valid opinion 💯❗️

  • @Chris_7366
    @Chris_7366 6 часов назад

    Both games have their own bs but I prefer T8 over CH city T7. Everything CH launched and some characters had 11f-12f CH magic 4s, infinite wall travel, engage/ disengage gameplay, sidestepping sucked. I get nobody likes 50/50’s in T8 but aside from that there’s more quick decision making and more interaction

  • @TheMockingjay74
    @TheMockingjay74 День назад +1

    FINALLY A PROPER VID ON THIS

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@TheMockingjay74 I appreciate you💜❗️

  • @SnakeInTheRain
    @SnakeInTheRain 7 часов назад

    For me 7 is one of the worst tekken games in the series despite being the most successful and a good fighting game overall. It's just missing that love and care most tekken games tend to have and everything about it felt watered down. 8 brought some of the love back but its held back by the over aggression. For me its Tag 2 > Tekken 8 > then tekken 7 as far as recent games go

  • @christiandelacruz7634
    @christiandelacruz7634 4 часа назад

    Tekken 2 and 3 goated. 8 brought me into the game.

  • @patrickguynn8900
    @patrickguynn8900 19 часов назад

    Tekken 8 is easy at spamming. However, Tekken 8 is not easy while defending. In a weird way, tekken 8 has made me a better player since I have to learn to deal with all the annoying spamming of moves.

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  18 часов назад

      @@patrickguynn8900 oh wow that’s interesting. That’s a valid perspective.

  • @KDOGG55
    @KDOGG55 День назад

    Did Harda really say Chloes not coming back?

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@KDOGG55 It’s possible lol. I don’t think he wants to deal with the twitter ppl lol

    • @KDOGG55
      @KDOGG55 День назад

      @@Zoom7k I wouldn't want to either lol

  • @NateBiggsby
    @NateBiggsby День назад +4

    T8 is way better than T7 💯

    • @ibuki5353
      @ibuki5353 12 часов назад

      Naw

    • @Liliderochefort
      @Liliderochefort Час назад

      Shut up, it's true bc the graphics are better, and customization ​@ibuki5353

  • @TheGreatAustino
    @TheGreatAustino 9 часов назад

    19:08 lars looks like bryan lmao

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  9 часов назад

      @@TheGreatAustino 😂😂

  • @neytracg308
    @neytracg308 18 часов назад

    30:57 LEGIT FACTS!!

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  17 часов назад

      ☹️💯

  • @Ameer0204
    @Ameer0204 3 дня назад

    The homie!!!

  • @writerartist6306
    @writerartist6306 День назад +3

    Tekken 7 has Akuma so it's automatically better 😂 and their Akuma was better than SF6 Akuma

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад +1

      @@writerartist6306 that’s crazy 😂😂😂

  • @KoufalKoufax
    @KoufalKoufax День назад +3

    only the losers and casual are hating on tekken 8 LOL

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@KoufalKoufax 😂

    • @arpadszabo661
      @arpadszabo661 День назад +1

      I wouldn’t say casuals do. Tekken 8 exists to please them. Its the old Tekken players who refuse to accept that time moves on and Bandai wasn’t going to rerelease Tekken 7’s gameplay when the community clowned on it for almost a decade for being too defensive and not rewarding engagement which is why it was called korean backdash simulator.

    • @KoufalKoufax
      @KoufalKoufax День назад

      @@arpadszabo661 nahh

  • @inyalgaico1563
    @inyalgaico1563 День назад

    Yes. You can do mix its not one button into 50/50

  • @RealKame
    @RealKame День назад

    😂 loved it

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@RealKame thank you friend 💜❗️

  • @axdbrlover
    @axdbrlover 22 часа назад

    IMO, the problem with T8 is not the gameplay or Heat, the problem is: Greedy monetization (dude, it's a F2P monetization in a full price game), boring and actually pointless battle passes and terrible DLC (I know T7 had Frame Data Visualizer being sold as DLC, but the characters were pretty cool, they were popular to sell DLC, but not popular enough to be mandatory presences in the base game, like Julia or Lei). In general, I think T8 is a much better game both gameplay and content-wise, but the support the game is receiving is just... I'd rather not say. I didn't liked T7, the game looked awful, the characters didn't were charismatic and the game in general lacked on any personality, also, let's remember T7 only had Treasure Battle to play offline and a HORRIBLE netcode to play online (atleast here where I live).

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  17 часов назад +1

      I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT CRAZY FRAME DATA DLC IN TEKKEN 7. I was literally looking for the frame data and I went to the setting and saw it was locked and I had to pay for it. That was absolutely crazy. But thank you for your comment friend 💜❗️

  • @staraider3982
    @staraider3982 2 дня назад

    Crazy how much better visually T8 is from T7 😅 i remember T7 dropped & i thought them graphics was groundbreaking 😂

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  2 дня назад +1

      @staraider3982 that’s what I’m saying. The visuals in Tekken 7 was absolutely scary😭

    • @MagnaLynx21
      @MagnaLynx21 2 дня назад +3

      That said, Tekken 7's graphics makes it easier to see whats going on in a match

  • @F1stcmgetsum
    @F1stcmgetsum 23 часа назад

    Tekken 7 was more difficult because it was so defensive. It was boring at times honestly and ive played all the tekken games. Tekken 8 has better combos by a longshot. Theres not as many characters which is a good thing. Yes you can rushdown people mostly and you dont have to use all the "tools" like 7. But when you get to tekken king thats where literally all of those tools you have to be using so its still there. People do sidestep even at the lower ranks like at red. Tekken 7 was good but i like tekken 8 better honestly minus clive just because it should have been a different character

  • @crushsarili
    @crushsarili День назад

    no tekken game is perfect
    heck i will wait for another next tekken 9 game
    and people are going to use the internet with their smelly farts opinion and say
    tekken 9 is better than tekken 8
    heck even people back even say tag 2 is better than 7 back in my days

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  День назад

      @@crushsariliJust the reality of gaming and having sequels 😀

    • @Tain_edReaper
      @Tain_edReaper День назад

      Not really. Sequels can be better/ receive less hate if they are good. Or if they please 90% of the player base. Halo 3 did that. Gears of wars 3 did that. Baldurs gate 3 did that. Diablo didn't, gears of war 5 didn't, same for Tekken 8. Stop conflating.

    • @Tain_edReaper
      @Tain_edReaper День назад

      ​@@Zoom7knot really the reality. When a sequel is good, you won't have the reaction of expecting hate from the player base. The ratio of hate was low for Tekken 7 when it was released because fundamentally it was good/ok in most people's eyes. Tekken 8 has 30-40% of the player base disliking it. Mostly the people who have played since Tekken 6. And of the People from Tekken 6, those who thought Tekken 7 was mid but ok, 90% hates Tekken 8

  • @nyotengu4893
    @nyotengu4893 17 часов назад

    Facts 😎

    • @Zoom7k
      @Zoom7k  17 часов назад

      💜❗️