I think that the right to present Mitchell and Webb radio sketches on RUclips is one of the greatest expressions of democracy, and frankly denying it would but us in a situation not dissimilar from SOPA's America!
it's really bizarre how so many internet arguments quickly degenerate into one or both participants comparing the other to the biggest assholes in history.
"This one is dedicated to the force for epic stupidity that is ben stein ("darwin leads to hitler")." Actually, it's a parody of a Radio 4 programme called "The Moral Maze," hosted by Michael Burke, who used to stand next to starving Ethiopians looking sad, but now sits next to Claire Fox and Melanie Phillips and sounds cranky.
Although it hasn’t happened yet, we have similar laws here in Texas. We don’t have the "Stand your ground law" like Florida has (that’s what George Zimmerman's defense is), but we have laws that allow us to shot dead threatening people in our front yards, in our homes, & even in the street if they are approaching your property in a threatening manner. Plus, our cars are considered to be the same as our homes, so we can carry guns in our vehicles too. I LOVE OUR GUN CULTURE......
@Kington99 Unless, you are actually talking about Hitler. Hitler had other thoughts and deeds outside of his mass murdering racist tendencies. Comparing Stalin to Hitler, for example. Comparing Hitlers painting skills to someone else. Comparing Hitler's other political view points to someone else. There are many things about Hitler which one can discuss, but it helps if the topic is actually Hitler. In a moral discussion, one can also be as cold as Hitler, but to accuse someone is another issue.
I actually don't think it's that strange. History is how we learn what is and isn't a good idea. Of course the biggest moral failures of the past will figure large in any discussion of modern morality.
I wasn't invoking Godwin's Law, I was just saying that the intolerance that rises in the gorge during the act of debate, is the exact same impulse that made hitler spew his vitriol. The urge and act of debate makes us all as bad as hitler on some level, that's all I was trying to say.
Misusing the word "debate". Debate is a reasoned exchange of views. Schools and universities have debating clubs, so members can practice public speaking and logical argument.
I would think godwins law has it's basis on Hitler being a universal worse case scenario.It's universally accepted as being hard to top for being the worse. So the law might be that when the unprofessional debaters are going further and further away from common ground, it might, from a personal perspective seem that the other is metaphorically as far as Hitler to them. Also, as an argument goes far enough, people wil start admitting into things they have not thought of out of defencive stance.
"This one is dedicated to the force for epic stupidity that is ben stein ("darwin leads to hitler")." *Darwinism* leads to nazism or other horrible "survival of the fittest" socities, not Darwin. Evolution in itself does not lead to anything. Its what follows when people try make it out to be more than just science. Get it? But funny skit though.
That's it, that's every internet argument ever.
I agree with Mary.
What did she say I wasn't listening
@@romainsavioz5466 Sorry, can't answer now, I'm rather tired.
This is all arguments on the internet
Spoken like a true fascist!
Why don't you just drive down an Autobahn in your Volkswagen while you're at it?!
I'm very tired.
I think this sketch is actually more reasonable than most youtube comment threads.
wow this really sums up the political climate right now
A Communist like you would say that.
Only a Nazi would call someone a Communist.
Taking care of your children for free, like a filthy Commie!
Not adressing his arguments, instead using insults; typical behaviour of a radical socialist.
or right now (oct 2020)
This is actually the level of argument some politicians are resorting to about the EU referendum.
this is exactly what passes for real debate in america.
Yep, can confirm that. And its worse now.
I'm with Mary.
This is EXACTLY how any two extremes in any middle road normal democracy debate. Mary is the rational middle. Mary is very tired.
Oh man, that was hilarious - thanks for posting!
I think that the right to present Mitchell and Webb radio sketches on RUclips is one of the greatest expressions of democracy, and frankly denying it would but us in a situation not dissimilar from SOPA's America!
Surprisingly many discussions on the internet go that way.
"I feel very tired."
Shooting distributors sounds a bit like killing the messenger when he delivers bad news.
Would be funny if I didn't meet people who argue like this regularly.
it's really bizarre how so many internet arguments quickly degenerate into one or both participants comparing the other to the biggest assholes in history.
4 people feel very tired.
oh, you were serious.
Fry and Laurie reference?
Twitter in a nutshell...
"This one is dedicated to the force for epic stupidity that is ben stein ("darwin leads to hitler")."
Actually, it's a parody of a Radio 4 programme called "The Moral Maze," hosted by Michael Burke, who used to stand next to starving Ethiopians looking sad, but now sits next to Claire Fox and Melanie Phillips and sounds cranky.
@sheepwshotguns thats try as hell having argument with christen fundamentalist it went straight to hitler
@Kington99 , ahhh a fan of QI? love that show too
Although it hasn’t happened yet, we have similar laws here in Texas. We don’t have the "Stand your ground law" like Florida has (that’s what George Zimmerman's defense is), but we have laws that allow us to shot dead threatening people in our front yards, in our homes, & even in the street if they are approaching your property in a threatening manner. Plus, our cars are considered to be the same as our homes, so we can carry guns in our vehicles too. I LOVE OUR GUN CULTURE......
OMG, I love killing without consequence as well!
this is genius
Sounded just like American Politics through the Media Filter at the time Now life mirrors art ...
everybody should watch QI, just my humble opinion, but i think many would agree
@Kington99
With, of course, the caveat, "unless the argument in question is actually about Nazi Germany"
:)
reminds me of godwin's law
Prussia vs Russia ft.England and America
aka, Hetalia brought me here xD
@kinggod654 Indeed.
@666satanification666
And they then immediately lose by doing so, as Godwin's Law states
Actually, all of those statements are more sensible than anything Melanie Phillips has ever said. Satire pales in comparison.
@Kington99 Unless, you are actually talking about Hitler. Hitler had other thoughts and deeds outside of his mass murdering racist tendencies. Comparing Stalin to Hitler, for example. Comparing Hitlers painting skills to someone else. Comparing Hitler's other political view points to someone else. There are many things about Hitler which one can discuss, but it helps if the topic is actually Hitler. In a moral discussion, one can also be as cold as Hitler, but to accuse someone is another issue.
scared the crap out of me when he said "angus" my name, caught me unawares. i wonder when i will get desensitized to hearing my own name...
@adzug Sadly
Except for the fact that they got a warning letter. You should watch QI.
I actually don't think it's that strange. History is how we learn what is and isn't a good idea. Of course the biggest moral failures of the past will figure large in any discussion of modern morality.
I wasn't invoking Godwin's Law, I was just saying that the intolerance that rises in the gorge during the act of debate, is the exact same impulse that made hitler spew his vitriol.
The urge and act of debate makes us all as bad as hitler on some level, that's all I was trying to say.
Misusing the word "debate". Debate is a reasoned exchange of views. Schools and universities have debating clubs, so members can practice public speaking and logical argument.
Funny that people still compare the worst man in history to the man that beat him
Only no one mentioned communism.
So, I'm curious, what about my comment offended you?
Hmm, videos not working for me, can only hear the audio
That's a shame, I can both hear and see the audio.
Lol spot on
I would think godwins law has it's basis on Hitler being a universal worse case scenario.It's universally accepted as being hard to top for being the worse. So the law might be that when the unprofessional debaters are going further and further away from common ground, it might, from a personal perspective seem that the other is metaphorically as far as Hitler to them. Also, as an argument goes far enough, people wil start admitting into things they have not thought of out of defencive stance.
"This one is dedicated to the force for epic stupidity that is ben stein ("darwin leads to hitler")."
*Darwinism* leads to nazism or other horrible "survival of the fittest" socities, not Darwin. Evolution in itself does not lead to anything. Its what follows when people try make it out to be more than just science. Get it?
But funny skit though.
well that's just the level of argument that we've come to expect from the fascists...
;)
i feel it should be the other way around, with the pro-gun side on the right.
Typical communist dribble...