Front offices leak information to Woj/Shams in return for goodwill to use in the future or immediate info on what other teams are doing. If Leon Rose calls up Danny Ainge and proposes a trade, but Danny demands a higher offer because other teams are also asking for that player, Leon can go to Shams or Woj and ask if those other offers are actually real. And like you said if everyone else is speeding by 10 over the limit then you’re unlikely to be the one who gets singled out and caught for doing it. Every team wants to know what other teams are doing, and journalists want to know what every team is doing anyway for their own job. So every team talks to Woj, and Woj wants to know what every team is doing, and every team wants to know what everyone else is doing, but the communication is all roadblocked by Woj/Shams. Teams have to go through Woj/Shama because he’s the only party involved that teams have access to that knows what’s up, but they also have to reward him with info about their own team in order to get info out of him.
@@whatslaps Rather than secrecy it's about ambiguity, by speaking through a third party they make themselves seem less involved than they actually are. They have an easier time preparing, amending and wiggling their way out of minor infringements. There's this grey ambiguous area where these NBA teams can pretend like they sorta regret cheating because they were never given an opportunity to comment on it, and once they do have an opportunity to speak on the matter at hand the information has already been out there for a while so they have ample time to prepare an appropriate response.
glad to be a part of the community, loving the content (the entirety, (almost throught it all, a bit sad about it shrinking)) p.s. tryin' to be good to mom and enjoyin' being smart in front of dad!! shoutout from zadar croatia
Video idea: "What make the jump-ball fair?" or "Are jump-balls fair?" i.e: What makes jump-balls less luck-based than just flipping a coin or playing RPS for first ball/possession. I think this would be pretty interesting to discuss, if purely for looking at a 'Jump-balls won/lost' statistic, lol. I don't think a stat like that even gets tracked anywhere, but I think it'd be pretty easy to do so. It would also give you the opportunity to evaluate what actually makes a "good" jump-ball toss from an official, a "clean" jump-ball from players and the actual 'skills and knowledge' that determine how to win jump-balls consistently.
Lowkey a trade speculation vid might be kinda interesting, going over trades that people thought were gonna happen but didn’t Yesterday we learned there’s some internal discussions about getting Marcus smart on the Knicks and that would cause a solid shakeup in the East against Boston
You should make video about the raptors and how the nba has skewed them over (couldn’t have a first overall pick in the first couple years) and just there overall history from Vince to Bosh and how they were irrelevant till the one year and just how they are a forgotten team
cheating is bad and all but the astros thing is just funny. they were banging a TRASH CAN. it’s so colossally dumb and obvious that the entire league deserves flack for not being able to figure it out. like the astros weren’t using secret headphones in their baseball caps, they were using a trash can
happy monday whatslaps do you play any videogames? i find the similarities and differences in the cheating conversation between that and sports really interesting
Can you do a video rating all the big signings/trades this offseason and rating them? Also do you think we will ever see someone like barry bonds in the nba in terms of using steroids?
first question: checkout my other channel @whatshorts I did it over there. second question: I don't. Basketball doesn't really benefit as much from steroid use imo.
I think it's really interesting how Astros fans are always so incredibly angry whenever you bring up 2017-19. Almost like they know they don't have anything legitimate to celebrate.
@@whatslaps It is so hard to find the line with cheating vs ethical rule bending. This was such an awesome video and such a good exploration of the topic, I really appreciate you putting it all together like this.
I could imagine a give and take relationship where woj or shams in return for getting news early will put out false info to help teams. I.e. "hawks looking to trade Young multiple teams interested" when only the lakers are calling to get a better deal for the hawks.
I just realized... as a supporter point of the flopping coming from football countries... Steven Adams is for most players the toughest and strongest, he's from NZ, Rugby country
I hope the knicks and celtics are healthy this year, im a celtics fan and think the knicks have the only 5 man lineup that is even comparable when healthy in terms of talent
Instead of confirmatory I think you should have just gone with confirmed. The evidence used to establish a confirmation is confirmatory but that isn't how you were using it. It's not a total failure because you can use confirmatory I just think it would be better not to.
The best teams and players in any sport have meta exploits to either cheat or abuse the system/rules....some exploits start a trend and some get nerfed by new rules to keep the game balanced and entertaining for fans.
Americans were the original floppers tbh : Reggie Miller, Mahorn, Rodman, Laimbeer, Cooper, Jordan (yes, Jordan, acting like he was hit by a truck on offensive “fouls” lol)
Tampering usually seems like a bit a of a subjective thing, the league kinda picks and chooses when it wants to crack down on certain things/times. But sometimes a person/organization does something so heinous/grievous that it is unavoidable that something needs to be done to teach a lesson and show that there are limits to that kind of stuff. Good point that PED's only get a certain level of attention based upon who is getting penalized for it, lesser names seems to mostly go unnoticed and things just move right along. Kinda too bad that Manu was such a prevalent flopper, seemed like a good player/person, but that kind of thing sorta mar's his reputation (to me at least). Also too bad about Stockton too I guess, a guy who was otherwise an outstanding player, tarishes his "good name" by doing stuff that he shouldn't, and becoming known for dirty play, not a great look. That Joe Smith situation is also messed up, doing risky stuff like that I don't think is advisable, but of course it seems teams and players will try and do what they can to work out favorably for themselves that they think they can get away with. *shrug* I guess that type of thing is always going to be part of the sauce, oh well. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, don't do the crime if you can't do the time, etc. Thanks again broski, your vids always one of my favorite parts of the week. Keep doin you. Appreciate you homedawg.
Sometimes I wish we had more scandals in the NBA. I didn't care about baseball until I heard about the Astros sign stealing scandal and watched a doc on BALCO. Also I highly recommend the Lance Armstrong 30 for 30 doc. I like stupid games and I really love stupid prizes. Poor Joe Smith I guess he spent all his money too. Didn't know any better, but I hear he's doing well now. Glad you're still enjoying the content, brother!
I wonder why the bad boy pistons didn't get the mention. I know that their behavior led to the creation of technical fouls but still, trying to injure somebody to win at the price of a meaningless foul it's pretty much cheating. Still great vid keep it up my like and share are well earned. ❤❤❤
whatslaps did you watch the recent danuel house jr interview where he tells the story of the leagues accusations of having a girl in his room during the covid bubble playoffs
It’s not that people don’t respect passing point guards. It’s because many point guards now are pretty good scorers. The team’s best wing players are SG and forwards who are the primary playmakers. If you got a LeBron, Luka, and Jokic, then you wouldn’t really need a passing-only point guard. But, to John’s credit, he was a versatile point guard, beyond passing. He could play off ball, shoot with efficiency; and play defense.
could you do/have you done a video about how wnba players get paid, merch, and how they usually have to play overseas in the offseason to make a living
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I mean Tony Parker definitely knows how to cheat if you get what I mean...
ooohhhhhh. I do.
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@@thetwiggamingchannel9578 wild😭
Derrick Fisher too lmao
That’s why I like him off the court hate him on the court
Do the Knicks hiring half of Jalen Brunson's family count lmao
if they were in talks before he became a free agent. definitely. (of course they were.)
@@whatslaps FaceTime type shit lol
Front offices leak information to Woj/Shams in return for goodwill to use in the future or immediate info on what other teams are doing. If Leon Rose calls up Danny Ainge and proposes a trade, but Danny demands a higher offer because other teams are also asking for that player, Leon can go to Shams or Woj and ask if those other offers are actually real. And like you said if everyone else is speeding by 10 over the limit then you’re unlikely to be the one who gets singled out and caught for doing it. Every team wants to know what other teams are doing, and journalists want to know what every team is doing anyway for their own job. So every team talks to Woj, and Woj wants to know what every team is doing, and every team wants to know what everyone else is doing, but the communication is all roadblocked by Woj/Shams. Teams have to go through Woj/Shama because he’s the only party involved that teams have access to that knows what’s up, but they also have to reward him with info about their own team in order to get info out of him.
Doesn't it all feel like high school drama? Like why be so secretive?
@@whatslaps Rather than secrecy it's about ambiguity, by speaking through a third party they make themselves seem less involved than they actually are. They have an easier time preparing, amending and wiggling their way out of minor infringements. There's this grey ambiguous area where these NBA teams can pretend like they sorta regret cheating because they were never given an opportunity to comment on it, and once they do have an opportunity to speak on the matter at hand the information has already been out there for a while so they have ample time to prepare an appropriate response.
glad to be a part of the community, loving the content (the entirety, (almost throught it all, a bit sad about it shrinking))
p.s. tryin' to be good to mom and enjoyin' being smart in front of dad!! shoutout from zadar croatia
that's youtube. it's up and down. I gotta hit Croatia sometime, looks gorgeous.
As I African, it's been a full pleasure to keep enjoying this channel, I have a Playlist with all those videos even from 2022
Glad you like the channel! I appreciate the international support!
@@whatslaps u make my day with that reply, but dude you forgot the glasses for this latest show
can you do a video on how the hall of fame works??
like all of that probability idk pls
i really like that idea couse these % just seems made up most of the time
this is a great topic idea!
u got it
Now we talking
the perfect channel as someone who is getting back into the NBA
glad you're finding it helpful. welcome back!
WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT AN UNPROVEN CONSPIRACY VIDEO IS EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT COUSIN
haha, I know. I'll save them all for another video.
@@whatslaps i await with bated breath
Video idea: "What make the jump-ball fair?" or "Are jump-balls fair?" i.e: What makes jump-balls less luck-based than just flipping a coin or playing RPS for first ball/possession. I think this would be pretty interesting to discuss, if purely for looking at a 'Jump-balls won/lost' statistic, lol. I don't think a stat like that even gets tracked anywhere, but I think it'd be pretty easy to do so. It would also give you the opportunity to evaluate what actually makes a "good" jump-ball toss from an official, a "clean" jump-ball from players and the actual 'skills and knowledge' that determine how to win jump-balls consistently.
interesting. I could work that into a larger topic for sure.
I always think of the old Al Davis former Raiders owner quote “if you ain’t cheatin, you ain’t tryin.”
not much to respect about Al Davis, but he had an ethos.
Lowkey a trade speculation vid might be kinda interesting, going over trades that people thought were gonna happen but didn’t
Yesterday we learned there’s some internal discussions about getting Marcus smart on the Knicks and that would cause a solid shakeup in the East against Boston
Who did you hear this Smart speculation from?
@@whatslaps Kris Pursianien, guy who’s been pretty active around the Knicks and also said that Mitchell Robinson was gonna get possibly traded
You should make video about the raptors and how the nba has skewed them over (couldn’t have a first overall pick in the first couple years) and just there overall history from Vince to Bosh and how they were irrelevant till the one year and just how they are a forgotten team
Are you sure YOU don't want to make that video? ;)
Another banger. Had no idea about the Joe Smith story
I knew about it, but didn't know the details til I did the research.
Don’t forget magic publicly trying to recruit PG13 on the tonight show with jimmy kimmel when he was in okc ☠️
that's true. Adam Silver actually reference that in the clip before I started it.
Thanks!
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Good quality as always, but man what do you mean nobody likes the gossip 😂😂
just being sarcastic. All I do is gossip haha
@@whatslaps LOL I get it, basketball gossip is the best thing about the sport before the season starts
I’m still confused how you don’t have a million subscribers
It's kind of niche page if you think about it. more commentary than news. not for everyone, just the ones who dig it.
@@whatslapsI dig it brother😊
The greatest cheating scandal was when the Moron Mountain bball team stole talent from NBA players
that was a wild day indeed. legend has it Charles Barkley still doesn't have all of his talent.
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you should see it in IMAX
cheating is bad and all but the astros thing is just funny. they were banging a TRASH CAN. it’s so colossally dumb and obvious that the entire league deserves flack for not being able to figure it out. like the astros weren’t using secret headphones in their baseball caps, they were using a trash can
I agreed. I loved the story and I'm a dodgers fan.
“Leave the key under the doormat for lebron” is crazy by pat
he knew what he was doing.
Remember what James Harden said "Darryl Morey is a liar"
I'll never forget.
happy monday whatslaps
do you play any videogames? i find the similarities and differences in the cheating conversation between that and sports really interesting
Not so much anymore. I used to play Halo with a guy who would watch people's screens. We stopped playing with him after a while.
Happy Monday!
wake up whatslaps, babe uploaded
babe was at the club last night wildin'. I saw it. It was brazy.
Dropped less then 10 minutes ago & I’m already tapped in🏄🏿♂️
🏄🏿♂️surfs up baby
Can you do a video rating all the big signings/trades this offseason and rating them? Also do you think we will ever see someone like barry bonds in the nba in terms of using steroids?
first question: checkout my other channel @whatshorts I did it over there.
second question: I don't. Basketball doesn't really benefit as much from steroid use imo.
I think it's really interesting how Astros fans are always so incredibly angry whenever you bring up 2017-19. Almost like they know they don't have anything legitimate to celebrate.
If it triggers you, there might be some truth to it.
@@whatslaps It is so hard to find the line with cheating vs ethical rule bending. This was such an awesome video and such a good exploration of the topic, I really appreciate you putting it all together like this.
@@whatslaps Especially as it pertains to something like sign stealing with your eyes vs with a camera.
Whatslaps with the baseball knowledge. I see you 🔥
I see you baby
You should do how to spot a player due for a breakout season!
haha, if I only knew how to spot it
I could imagine a give and take relationship where woj or shams in return for getting news early will put out false info to help teams. I.e. "hawks looking to trade Young multiple teams interested" when only the lakers are calling to get a better deal for the hawks.
that's a good point, but then you have to assume they're sowing misinformation from other teams too.
@whatslaps true, but as a gm, would you take the risk that they are bluffing, or would you trade away another pick or two for a star
The diuretic thing is kind of bogus. You would be surprised how many substances are diuretics... even dandelions are diuretic.
Deandre Ayton out here grazin' on dandelions? ;)
Maybe you can talk about the discrepancies in players height. There is no way KD ain't a a 7 footer
yeah, I could do a video on height in general. that could work.
even with roids, andre "frustr-ayton" ayton is still soft as charmin
"frustr-ayton" is gold
You just earned a new sub my guy! Good content.
thanks for the sub, man! glad you like the content!
Drew Eubanks was totally worth that penalty for suuurreeee
For a guy like Drew, you gotta take some risks.
I just realized... as a supporter point of the flopping coming from football countries... Steven Adams is for most players the toughest and strongest, he's from NZ, Rugby country
exactly. Basketball players from Dagestan refuse to accept foul calls.
@@whatslaps They learned to play with bears
I hope the knicks and celtics are healthy this year, im a celtics fan and think the knicks have the only 5 man lineup that is even comparable when healthy in terms of talent
I hope they match up in the ECF. it'd be good for the game.
Ime Udoka drew up a whole playbook on how to cheat
oh dang for real?
Instead of confirmatory I think you should have just gone with confirmed. The evidence used to establish a confirmation is confirmatory but that isn't how you were using it. It's not a total failure because you can use confirmatory I just think it would be better not to.
I tried googling the opposite of inconclusive. The adjective that would describes a successful investigation. What do detectives call that?
@@whatslaps that could be affirmative? You could also use affirmatory though that word is not used all that often.
@@whatslaps also if you're looking for the opposite of inconclusive you might want to just go with conclusive. 😆
I do think woj and shams have a place if done correctly. Like this last offseason with The lakers coaching job.
Yeah, from what I gather most front offices are heavily influenced by information and misinformation they hear about other teams.
Do you know where the fined 2nd round picks go?
they just disappear. Some drafts only have 56-57 picks
7:04 not 20 years. 30 years later brother 😳
my b my b
you should talk about expansions on a future video, it seems the nba is working towards one
The first video I ever did that got traction was about the expansion. might be time to revisit it though.
@@whatslaps will definitely take a look!
The best teams and players in any sport have meta exploits to either cheat or abuse the system/rules....some exploits start a trend and some get nerfed by new rules to keep the game balanced and entertaining for fans.
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Americans were the original floppers tbh : Reggie Miller, Mahorn, Rodman, Laimbeer, Cooper, Jordan (yes, Jordan, acting like he was hit by a truck on offensive “fouls” lol)
oh dang you might actually be right!
Tampering usually seems like a bit a of a subjective thing, the league kinda picks and chooses when it wants to crack down on certain things/times. But sometimes a person/organization does something so heinous/grievous that it is unavoidable that something needs to be done to teach a lesson and show that there are limits to that kind of stuff. Good point that PED's only get a certain level of attention based upon who is getting penalized for it, lesser names seems to mostly go unnoticed and things just move right along. Kinda too bad that Manu was such a prevalent flopper, seemed like a good player/person, but that kind of thing sorta mar's his reputation (to me at least). Also too bad about Stockton too I guess, a guy who was otherwise an outstanding player, tarishes his "good name" by doing stuff that he shouldn't, and becoming known for dirty play, not a great look. That Joe Smith situation is also messed up, doing risky stuff like that I don't think is advisable, but of course it seems teams and players will try and do what they can to work out favorably for themselves that they think they can get away with. *shrug* I guess that type of thing is always going to be part of the sauce, oh well. Play stupid games win stupid prizes, don't do the crime if you can't do the time, etc. Thanks again broski, your vids always one of my favorite parts of the week. Keep doin you. Appreciate you homedawg.
Sometimes I wish we had more scandals in the NBA. I didn't care about baseball until I heard about the Astros sign stealing scandal and watched a doc on BALCO. Also I highly recommend the Lance Armstrong 30 for 30 doc. I like stupid games and I really love stupid prizes. Poor Joe Smith I guess he spent all his money too. Didn't know any better, but I hear he's doing well now. Glad you're still enjoying the content, brother!
No corndog for me this week I’m watching my figure
save the calories for something better
Why do the teams not just wait more than 5 minutes if the player is already practically signed?
I say give it till the end of they day. a reasonable amount of time, but not enough time for another team to come with a deal
We do not fw John Stockton 📢
Why?
Catholicism?
I wonder why the bad boy pistons didn't get the mention. I know that their behavior led to the creation of technical fouls but still, trying to injure somebody to win at the price of a meaningless foul it's pretty much cheating. Still great vid keep it up my like and share are well earned. ❤❤❤
that would have been good. Maybe I'll do a part 2. talk about donagy a bit too.
Aren't journalists get there information from the players agent's?
that's what people are sayin.
The answer to the dirtiest player is Bill Laimbeer anyway
My favourite basketball player of all time, no joke
I know, but I couldn't talk about the bad boys two weeks in a row.
another great video im surprised u didnt mention lebron he seems like a flopper😊
I threw a couple gifs of him in there.
@@whatslaps nice job
whatslaps did you watch the recent danuel house jr interview where he tells the story of the leagues accusations of having a girl in his room during the covid bubble playoffs
he had a girl up in there.
stockton is not a top 5 pg unfortunately
6?
I think you should lower the volume of your theme music
I dialed it back one decibel but I'll do one more.
The thumbnail for steroid should have been Lebron
or for flopping
@@whatslaps or tampering as well. Bro done everything and got away with most
Didn’t Robert Sarver get fined 10m for his shenanigans
I don't know. Maybe it didn't come up because he was fined personally?
Manu's my personal favorite player of all time and yes I do think flopping is very cool
Vlade is the true king of the flop in retrospect.
Hey man you gotta light up your face somehow I can’t see half of it
I got scars on the other side.
Top 5 best and worst trades in NBA history?
that might be good. do more historical stuff while the offseason lasts
@@whatslaps exacly and the terms of best and worst can vary a lot. Like the KD Nets trade, in the end was good for the Nets
Come on man!!
An episode of weird conspiracys would be lit!!!
Even though no one likes the gossip😅
it's coming, don't worry.
@@whatslaps so much win
Video on best non American players of all time
I might do that on the other channel sometime.
@@whatslaps good thing I’m subscribed to the other channel.
Bro, can u do a vid on JUST defensive centres , ie rudy, dikembe (rip) ben wallace mark eaton etc
maybe. in a way I think I've already done it in a few of my vids. RIP Dikembe
Nice mustache!
thanks dad! you ever consider one?
John Stockton isn't in my top 20 PG Id take bones hyland over him lmao
nobody respects a passing guard anymore
woah I'm shook!
@@whatslaps Stockton would average 5 points in todays game
It’s not that people don’t respect passing point guards. It’s because many point guards now are pretty good scorers. The team’s best wing players are SG and forwards who are the primary playmakers. If you got a LeBron, Luka, and Jokic, then you wouldn’t really need a passing-only point guard.
But, to John’s credit, he was a versatile point guard, beyond passing. He could play off ball, shoot with efficiency; and play defense.
@@pluto545 very true
commenting for da algorithm
juice me
I always comment for the algo
How are you
spiritually empty tbh
@@whatslaps what u mean bro? No connection with "God" or yourself?
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love u back ❤❤❤❤
I love u goat
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Take it easy on the sound effects boss
Thanks brother!
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jesus christ guys, stop simping brands
how on earth is this cheating?
Big simpin spendin cheese
What do you mean no one likes a gossip?? We LOVE a theorist baby lets go spill the tea
I'm just playing. xoxo - gossip girl
could you do/have you done a video about how wnba players get paid, merch, and how they usually have to play overseas in the offseason to make a living
I might do one enitrely on the WNBA and its relationship with the NBA as an org. that will def come up.