I bet if you drove the Capital Beltway at 55mph, you’d get the 315 mile range number, even with elevation changes. Any test you do is a great data point to consider on range. Thanks for posting the video.
Yes, this was a test of the effect of driving at 70mph rather than a test of altitude. Air drag doubles going from 50 to 70 mph. Most of us live in cities so normal driving includes a lot of slower speeds.
I've been averaging 3.2miles/kwhr on my 2LT FWD(no super cruise) going through a mountain on HW17 from santa cruz using 1pedal driving. Last trip i disabled 1pedal and got average 3.5 miles!
Thanks for taking time to do these test. Currently you are the only you tuber posting on the Equinox EV range and charging curves. Mabey Tom Moloughney at State of Charge in NJ could help with his range test. Thought I would share my road trip average efficiency numbers for reference. Tire pressure at 44 PSI AC set to 76 Degrees Eco mode. Central FL to North GA. 552 miles Temps in the morning in the 80's to mid 90's by afternoon. Leg 1 coming out of the Orlando metro to N FL charging stop one 171 miles 12 miles metro at 45 MPH then the remainder at 70 MPH average was 3.5 Mi/KWH Leg 2 N FL to Middle GA all at 70 MPH average was 3.3 Mi/KWH (This is what I feel would be the best representation) Leg 3 Middle GA to N GA all interstate but lots of Atlanta Metro Traffic average was 3.9 Mi/KWH
Not at all bad, though I'm looking at it from the Ioniq 5 AWD unlikely to best 220-230 miles from a not-that-much-smaller pack (77.4 kWh). Definitely interested in more tests and the additional energy used for the trip, beyond the stated capacity. Thanks for the data point!
True, but the listed 77.4 kwh listed capacity is the physical battery size. For that battery, usable capacity is about 74.7kwh, when new. The equinox evs listed 85kwh capacity IS the usable one. Real physical capacity is about 93kwh. So the equinox evs battery really is substantially larger than that of the korean makes
Personally, I'm really glad you did this test in Maryland, in the hills. Being from neighboring WV all those flat range tests are completely meaningless for my real world planning. My own adaptation of those tests (and using efficiency losses comparable to our Chevy Bolt I came close to the 2.9 m/kWh but didn't want to believe it. The Equinox, even at the 319 miles for 85 kWh battery in fairly inefficient at 3.75 m/kWh as a baseline. (A Model 3 Standard @59 kWh is EPA 272 miles = 4.61, significantly better! Our Chevy Bolt is 3.98 and around town, in nicer weather we routinely average 4.5 or higher.
I appreciate you doing the real test. I'm an Uber driver, and I put about 200 miles a night on my automobile. It's sad that the automobile doesn't get what's posted on the sticker. I would be worried about returning home after finishing my route for a night.
This was at 70mph. If you average speed was 55-60mph or less you would definitely get more than this result. I would say 300+ miles. I did a “commuter” driving test for this car at an average of 40mph and got around 340 miles. Hope this helps! Range is not a static thing for EV. So many factors affect it!
Thank you for taking the time to do this and share the information! I’m curious how the Equinox performs in a 10% / 15 minute charge test like the out of spec channel does on their cars. They charge at 10% SOC and then only charge for 15 minutes (simulating a quick pit stop on a long drive) and then see how far they can drive before they’re back to 10%. I know Chevy says 70 miles range in 10 minutes… I’m curious if that pans out.
I can do it anecdotally for you! I don't want to steal their test, but it would be good data! I know that they will eventually be testing the Equinox, when I'm not sure.
First thanks for the video, it’s helping in my research. I’d be curious to see this same test at 55 mph. Yes I know that’s slow 😀. But it’s the speed I drive.
I recently did a video where I did the “commuter range” of the Equinox EV. The average speed was 40-42 mph so it’s pretty close. Maybe knock 10-20miles off tops? ruclips.net/video/sNBvCB1hSKM/видео.html
Yes. There is an exponential draw of power in relation to speed. My slight disappointment comes from the fact the Lyriq did better at the same speed. No worries thought! I think the result was fine.
Recently on a 178 mile trip in upstate NY and western Mass very hilly terrain my 23 ID.4 AWD had 62 miles left on the guage. There were 4 adults plus baggage and I drove at 75 for 80% of the trip. It also started raining for the last 60 miles. Honestly the Equinox is looking less impressive especially since you were the only passenger with no luggage in a front wheel drive car.
In doing a longer roadtrip in the equinox soon. So I will be able to see what it gets on different terrain. Our ID.4 is pretty consistent. We just did a road-trip fully loaded and got 3.1 m/kWh.
I'd love to see a practical road trip range test that would mimic they way you would run an EV on a trip with multiple charging stops. The battery would start at the charge you would usually take a car up at a fast charger, I'm guessing that's 80% and you'd run it down to where your usual threshold is for a test. I'm guessing somewhere between 10% and 20%. This could tell us how long to plan for charging stops.
@@theaverageev I think Tom's average speed on the Lyriq turned out to be 65 MPH and not 70, it was a perfect day for his test but I believe he had sections of road work and traffic.
@@theaverageev I think that GM EV owners have also come to expect them to meet or exceed EPA rated ranges on these tests. The Bolt EV, HUMMER EV, LYRIQ, and Silverado EV all achieve close to their combined EPA range at 65-70 mph steady speed driving, so the Equinox EV falling short is noteworthy. I can't recall seeing the results of a Blazer EV test, though.
Wow that's awesome. 268 is not bad. Just wish it was a better charger. In my ID.4 2022 Pro S RWD, i can get 3.3 on the highway easy. But I am in very flat Florida roads. Oh 230 miles on a car that's been driven 78k in these 2 years.
The diameter is still the same for all of the cars. The wheels are different but the tires make them have the same diameter. The 21s are slightly wider but only slightly. Not likely to make a difference.
I wonder if the 19 inch wheels on the lower trims could hit 300. Seems possible. I also wonder how much the slowing and accelerating multiple times in order to loop impacts things.
They might get slightly better. While they have 19” wheels, the tires have a bigger profile so the diameter of the complete package is the same for the the 19s and 21s. But the 21s are ever so slightly wider. So that could play a factor. How much? I’m not sure.
Thanks! I'm definitely one of the ones who thinks that range result is a bit disappointing. I was able to get close to that range in the KIA EV6 RWD at 75 mph constant speed driving, and I'm not convinced that the Equinox EV's range is that much better than the Bolt EV's (maybe only 30 miles more with an additional 20 kWh of battery capacity). So maybe my disappointment is more in the efficiency than the range itself. Also, in combination with the charging profile, it's a little less excusable in my opinion. It's still a valid road tripper for a lot of folk; it's just nowhere near class leading (which we kind of knew already going into it).
GM is still in the "throw a bigger battery in it" mindset and hasn't really started to focus on efficiency. The Equinox isn't really even pacing the Bolt. The Bolt is "relatively" efficient compared to this. It is a bit disappointing. GM has been doing a decent job getting close to the EPA figures so I actually expected that would be the case here.
@@Longsnowsm The "just a bigger battery" was also used to describe the Bolt EV, until people realized that the only EVs that were more efficient were also significantly smaller (Hyundai Ioniq/Kona and Tesla Model 3). Then, when similarly sized and larger EVs started showing up with 15-20% worse efficiency than the Bolt EV, people stopped talking about it. Now that GM is putting 85 kWh and 100 kWh batteries in EVs that are getting similar efficiencies to the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and VW ID.4, suddenly it's back to "just a bigger battery."
You got a pretty good result, but a couple of other people are reporting a smidge over 300 miles at 70 mph. And one of them even has the RS with the bigger tires than yours. Wonder what the difference is?
If you are referring to Tom’s range test, we had the same 21in wheels. His test basically has no gain in elevation which led to the result. I think a realistic expectation with average elevation change is still 280-290ish miles. I’ve done one road trips and it did great.
21" or 19" inch tires? Also, I think you left Eco Air off - was that your intention? I recently drove 186 miles on 75 mph interstate in 100 degree weather and strong wind from the left front. I used 81 % of the battery which would suggest 230 miles of range under those conditions. I wouldn't expect to get close to 319 on the highway. Very possible to exceed that in city driving. Wish I had the 19" tires though.
I went back and turned it on. I double checked before I left. I noticed that too when I was editing 🤣🤣🤣 21” wheels! Yes I am aware that it is realistic to not get EPA. I was just hopeful because of the LYRIQ doing really well!!! I agree that 319 is very possible for lower speeds and city! I average my normal driving around 3.4-3.5 m/kWh which would be closer to 300!
I would love to see a "20 minute" test. Pull in at 10-20% SOC, charge for 20 minutes then see how far you can go at 70MPH. Out of Spec does a "10 minute" challenge. But based on the weight of this vehicle, 20 minutes seems more realistic. I hate to charge my Model 3 more than 20 minutes unless I'm eating lunch on a road trip.
It always seems that the actual range is 20 percent less. Especially at higher speeds. Tesla downgraded their range this year. I think due to a lawsuit.
Well kind of? The company can run which ever test they want to rate the range. It’s not standardized. So the old Taycan is rated at 220 or so and can actually get about 300 at highway speeds. So it’s hard to really gauge the range until you test it. The Lyriq best it’s EPA which was promising for the Equinox, but here we are!
The result shouldn’t be that different for AWD since the motor on spins up when needed for acceleration, which doesn’t happen often on a highway at a constant speed.
@@theaverageevI was curious because the EPA mileage rating is different for the two, but thanks for pointing out the different ways the motors work. I can see how the AWD's second motor wouldn't effect your range test by much.
One thing I wonder is just how much crosswind did you have. I found on my ioniq5 that it can take a significant bite out of economy, even if it’s like a 5 mph crosswind.
Not enough to worry about! Both are great cars! I like the seats of the. Equinox better and the infotainment is awesome as well. They both drive well and are pretty quiet for the price range. ID.4 charges way better. Those are my quick thoughts between the two. (We own both)
@@theaverageev ok, really good to know, and im going to test drive both of them again in a couple of months and will buy sometime late Fall when they start marking them down even more. Thanks so much for the videos!
Thanks for providing this information. I don't own an EV yet and am looking at the Equinox EV, Kia EV6, or Mustang Mach-e - all AWD. Not sure about the ID4, since it has the lowest published range. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Anyone know which is the most and least efficient? I am guessing the Mach-e is the least efficient.
What will the car be used for the majority of the time? If you are only occasionally going long distances I would pick the car you like the styling, driving dynamics, and comfort the most! I know people that have all of the cars you listed and love them! EV6 is the most efficient and ID.4 is next based on FuelEconomy.Gov
Great video. So, 70 mph gives about 268,5 miles for 2.9 mi/kWh it is a little low for such a big pack (85 kWh). And just for you to know, doing a loop style test, the differences in elevation are pretty much nullified.
Yes that’s why I do the loop, but I think the weight of the vehicle and lower regen didn’t help efficiency either. If there was a bit more regen it would have helped, but I was at the mercy of cruise control.
@@theaverageev I doubt the regenerative braking has much importance in a steady speed scenario. And although I agree the weight does have an impact in stop and go traffic, it is a lot less important in the steady speed scenario. The Ioniq 5 RWD is doing about 3.2 mi/kWh in the same kind of test, and I think it’s boxier than the Equinox EV at about the same weight.
Try it at 62mph. That is the best range I get on my Bolt EV. Real world 62 mph let's you draft goods tracks and 8mph is less time vs range vs driving through vs charging.
There are two draft zones on trucks. Up close which can be dangerous or at 2.5-3 length of the truck which offer less but significant drafting. 9 kW vs 13kW at 62 mph on flat roads. 69 mph is 22 kW.
What tires are on it? Different tires have different amounts of rolling resistance. Depending on the tires, The range of the same car on the same rout can vary by as much as 10%.Tire rolling resistance makes a much bigger difference in EV's than combustion, because of their high efficiency, and relatively low amounts of stored energy. I'm sure you did this, but inflation pressures make a bigger difference as well. Before setting off on a range test, check the tire pressures! Hills shouldn't make nearly as much difference in an EV, because of regenerative braking. Weight also makes less of a difference, because more energy spent accelerating or climbing, is also recovered by regenerative braking going down the other side, or when slowing down. There are huge differences in dynamics, between driving EV or combustion.
That range is admittedly a little short for what I expect from GM. They have been pretty good with the Bolt getting very close to it's rated range when new. And the few tests I had seen of the Blazer it appeared GM was fairly close to meeting the rated range. Not overly efficient, but GM is still in the "throw a bigger battery in it" mentality. The Equinox range you are getting is a little disappointing all things considered. First poor charging curve and speeds, now coming up fairly substantially below the rated range when new... Not a good look for GM.
I don't recommend loaning your car to other drivers for road trip tests. It's a disaster waiting to happen. There nothing wrong with your real world testing. You don't need to scientifically prove an EV's perfect range.
From the data on the lyric and your test the reason the lyric did better than its rating is because GM wants the numbers at 300 miles and with a 104 kwh pack on the lyric it will easily hit 300 miles so they weren't trying to stretch it. The 89 kwh pack on the equinox won't hit 300 miles without going slower. The lyric should not get it's EPA range at 70 mph because the EPA is based on a blend of city and highway. So they low balled the numbers because of the big pack. They can't low ball the smaller pack and hit the target 300 miles at all highway speeds. And both battery packs are bigger than what's claimed. Put another 15 kwh on your pack and you will hit 300 miles at 70 mph
I’d be interested in seeing someone do a test with the AWD to see if there is any difference. Been driving the wife’s car around the city and at about 60 mph on side roads and it seems pretty good. The jump from 60 to 70 mph could be a huge difference in mileage.
Yes and we have the 2LT AWD on 19” so i would be interesting if we would get close to your results. I dont want to put myself thru what you have done but thanks for doing the test for us
I’d bet 90% of people don’t drive more than 60 miles per day. EV’s would be just fine. People manage to plug their phones in and always have a cell phone, why can’t they charge their car?
I don't understand. How would elevation impact an electric vehicle's milage?, Elevation would impact ICE vehicles because of combustion and lack of oxygen density.
If I am spending thirty or forty thousand on an automobile and it states the car gets three hundred miles to the gallon or range. When you get in and go, you should not be on pins and needles about your speed. You don't drive 45 mph all the time, and you don't drive 70 or 75 mph. Roads have different speed limits. I certainly think it should get what it states. If not, it is a deception. Again, T.Y.V.M. for your toad test.
Love that you’re out there taking everything on. Keep up the great work!
I bet if you drove the Capital Beltway at 55mph, you’d get the 315 mile range number, even with elevation changes. Any test you do is a great data point to consider on range. Thanks for posting the video.
Yes, this was a test of the effect of driving at 70mph rather than a test of altitude. Air drag doubles going from 50 to 70 mph. Most of us live in cities so normal driving includes a lot of slower speeds.
You'd have to start your drive around the Capitol Beltway around 2am and end by 4:30am to avoid the rush hour traffic LOL!
@@TheyCallMeJayCarter True, but science requires these kinds of sacrifice, lol.
Car and Driver had performed their 75 mph highway range test on two different Equinox variants and achieved 260 miles, so 260 miles is pretty good.
Hwy the eAWD and FWD have the same energy mileage.
I've been averaging 3.2miles/kwhr on my 2LT FWD(no super cruise) going through a mountain on HW17 from santa cruz using 1pedal driving. Last trip i disabled 1pedal and got average 3.5 miles!
Thanks for taking time to do these test. Currently you are the only you tuber posting on the Equinox EV range and charging curves.
Mabey Tom Moloughney at State of Charge in NJ could help with his range test.
Thought I would share my road trip average efficiency numbers for reference.
Tire pressure at 44 PSI AC set to 76 Degrees Eco mode. Central FL to North GA. 552 miles Temps in the morning in the 80's to mid 90's by afternoon.
Leg 1 coming out of the Orlando metro to N FL charging stop one 171 miles 12 miles metro at 45 MPH then the remainder at 70 MPH average was 3.5 Mi/KWH
Leg 2 N FL to Middle GA all at 70 MPH average was 3.3 Mi/KWH (This is what I feel would be the best representation)
Leg 3 Middle GA to N GA all interstate but lots of Atlanta Metro Traffic average was 3.9 Mi/KWH
Thanks for all the data!!! 3.3m/kWh sound right for less hilly terrain.
Not at all bad, though I'm looking at it from the Ioniq 5 AWD unlikely to best 220-230 miles from a not-that-much-smaller pack (77.4 kWh). Definitely interested in more tests and the additional energy used for the trip, beyond the stated capacity. Thanks for the data point!
True, but the listed 77.4 kwh listed capacity is the physical battery size. For that battery, usable capacity is about 74.7kwh, when new.
The equinox evs listed 85kwh capacity IS the usable one. Real physical capacity is about 93kwh.
So the equinox evs battery really is substantially larger than that of the korean makes
Personally, I'm really glad you did this test in Maryland, in the hills. Being from neighboring WV all those flat range tests are completely meaningless for my real world planning. My own adaptation of those tests (and using efficiency losses comparable to our Chevy Bolt I came close to the 2.9 m/kWh but didn't want to believe it. The Equinox, even at the 319 miles for 85 kWh battery in fairly inefficient at 3.75 m/kWh as a baseline. (A Model 3 Standard @59 kWh is EPA 272 miles = 4.61, significantly better! Our Chevy Bolt is 3.98 and around town, in nicer weather we routinely average 4.5 or higher.
I appreciate you doing the real test. I'm an Uber driver, and I put about 200 miles a night on my automobile.
It's sad that the automobile doesn't get what's posted on the sticker. I would be worried about returning home after finishing my route for a night.
This was at 70mph. If you average speed was 55-60mph or less you would definitely get more than this result. I would say 300+ miles. I did a “commuter” driving test for this car at an average of 40mph and got around 340 miles. Hope this helps! Range is not a static thing for EV. So many factors affect it!
Thank you for taking the time to do this and share the information! I’m curious how the Equinox performs in a 10% / 15 minute charge test like the out of spec channel does on their cars. They charge at 10% SOC and then only charge for 15 minutes (simulating a quick pit stop on a long drive) and then see how far they can drive before they’re back to 10%. I know Chevy says 70 miles range in 10 minutes… I’m curious if that pans out.
I can do it anecdotally for you! I don't want to steal their test, but it would be good data! I know that they will eventually be testing the Equinox, when I'm not sure.
My Blazer EV RS RWD got over 350 miles twice on our vacation trip with a 62mph average overall with cruise set to 73 when possible
Where were you driving? What temperatureish ? That is the bigger battery too, correct? Thanks!
First thanks for the video, it’s helping in my research. I’d be curious to see this same test at 55 mph. Yes I know that’s slow 😀. But it’s the speed I drive.
I recently did a video where I did the “commuter range” of the Equinox EV. The average speed was 40-42 mph so it’s pretty close. Maybe knock 10-20miles off tops?
ruclips.net/video/sNBvCB1hSKM/видео.html
Wow and I thought I was being overly pessimistic when I guessed 268 on your live stream.
Yeah… 😬
That's an ok if not amazing result. Definitely better than my Bolt which would be around 220-230 in similar conditions
Not considering the EPA is 315. A OOS 70 mph test on the EUV was 234, EPA is 247. Not sure why the Equinox is so far off its EPA.
Remember fellows - speed is the king. Many have no clue about it. There is a juge diff between 55 ws 85 for instance.
Yes. There is an exponential draw of power in relation to speed. My slight disappointment comes from the fact the Lyriq did better at the same speed. No worries thought! I think the result was fine.
Recently on a 178 mile trip in upstate NY and western Mass very hilly terrain my 23 ID.4 AWD had 62 miles left on the guage. There were 4 adults plus baggage and I drove at 75 for 80% of the trip. It also started raining for the last 60 miles. Honestly the Equinox is looking less impressive especially since you were the only passenger with no luggage in a front wheel drive car.
In doing a longer roadtrip in the equinox soon. So I will be able to see what it gets on different terrain. Our ID.4 is pretty consistent. We just did a road-trip fully loaded and got 3.1 m/kWh.
I'd love to see a practical road trip range test that would mimic they way you would run an EV on a trip with multiple charging stops. The battery would start at the charge you would usually take a car up at a fast charger, I'm guessing that's 80% and you'd run it down to where your usual threshold is for a test. I'm guessing somewhere between 10% and 20%. This could tell us how long to plan for charging stops.
I’ll be doing a “boomerang” challenge where I try to optimize the charging as best I can. I think that will be very telling and helpful!
We all have to realize is the 319 epa is highway/city combined. Straight 70 down a freeway is different
Yes, but when the Lyriq out performs the EPA it is very curious why Equinox didn’t perform a little better.
@@theaverageev good question
@@theaverageev I think Tom's average speed on the Lyriq turned out to be 65 MPH and not 70, it was a perfect day for his test but I believe he had sections of road work and traffic.
@@theaverageev I think that GM EV owners have also come to expect them to meet or exceed EPA rated ranges on these tests. The Bolt EV, HUMMER EV, LYRIQ, and Silverado EV all achieve close to their combined EPA range at 65-70 mph steady speed driving, so the Equinox EV falling short is noteworthy. I can't recall seeing the results of a Blazer EV test, though.
Bolt EUV 70 mph. 234. EPA is 247. Why is the Equinox so far off its EPA?
Kyle O'Connor. Out of Spec. Does Excellent Range Test
Wow that's awesome. 268 is not bad. Just wish it was a better charger. In my ID.4 2022 Pro S RWD, i can get 3.3 on the highway easy. But I am in very flat Florida roads. Oh 230 miles on a car that's been driven 78k in these 2 years.
I'm truthfully not that upset, but because of the Lyriq I definitely had high hopes. It is an extremely workable range for me on a roadtrip.
I still don’t understand why Chevy doesn’t give a range hit for the 21” wheels and tires. I have the 2RS with 21’s.
The diameter is still the same for all of the cars. The wheels are different but the tires make them have the same diameter. The 21s are slightly wider but only slightly. Not likely to make a difference.
Consumer reports is doing constant 70mph loops on their EV range tests. I’ll be curious to see how your number compares to theirs.
I am also interested!
I wonder if the 19 inch wheels on the lower trims could hit 300. Seems possible. I also wonder how much the slowing and accelerating multiple times in order to loop impacts things.
They might get slightly better. While they have 19” wheels, the tires have a bigger profile so the diameter of the complete package is the same for the the 19s and 21s. But the 21s are ever so slightly wider. So that could play a factor. How much? I’m not sure.
Thanks! I'm definitely one of the ones who thinks that range result is a bit disappointing. I was able to get close to that range in the KIA EV6 RWD at 75 mph constant speed driving, and I'm not convinced that the Equinox EV's range is that much better than the Bolt EV's (maybe only 30 miles more with an additional 20 kWh of battery capacity). So maybe my disappointment is more in the efficiency than the range itself. Also, in combination with the charging profile, it's a little less excusable in my opinion. It's still a valid road tripper for a lot of folk; it's just nowhere near class leading (which we kind of knew already going into it).
GM is still in the "throw a bigger battery in it" mindset and hasn't really started to focus on efficiency. The Equinox isn't really even pacing the Bolt. The Bolt is "relatively" efficient compared to this. It is a bit disappointing. GM has been doing a decent job getting close to the EPA figures so I actually expected that would be the case here.
@@Longsnowsm The "just a bigger battery" was also used to describe the Bolt EV, until people realized that the only EVs that were more efficient were also significantly smaller (Hyundai Ioniq/Kona and Tesla Model 3). Then, when similarly sized and larger EVs started showing up with 15-20% worse efficiency than the Bolt EV, people stopped talking about it.
Now that GM is putting 85 kWh and 100 kWh batteries in EVs that are getting similar efficiencies to the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Tesla Model Y, and VW ID.4, suddenly it's back to "just a bigger battery."
You got a pretty good result, but a couple of other people are reporting a smidge over 300 miles at 70 mph. And one of them even has the RS with the bigger tires than yours. Wonder what the difference is?
If you are referring to Tom’s range test, we had the same 21in wheels. His test basically has no gain in elevation which led to the result. I think a realistic expectation with average elevation change is still 280-290ish miles. I’ve done one road trips and it did great.
21" or 19" inch tires? Also, I think you left Eco Air off - was that your intention? I recently drove 186 miles on 75 mph interstate in 100 degree weather and strong wind from the left front. I used 81 % of the battery which would suggest 230 miles of range under those conditions. I wouldn't expect to get close to 319 on the highway. Very possible to exceed that in city driving. Wish I had the 19" tires though.
I went back and turned it on. I double checked before I left. I noticed that too when I was editing 🤣🤣🤣
21” wheels!
Yes I am aware that it is realistic to not get EPA. I was just hopeful because of the LYRIQ doing really well!!!
I agree that 319 is very possible for lower speeds and city! I average my normal driving around 3.4-3.5 m/kWh which would be closer to 300!
How have the charging sessions been? About the same as the previous videos?
I have a few videos out now. Every session has been different. I have noticed better charging in mild temperatures.
I would love to see a "20 minute" test. Pull in at 10-20% SOC, charge for 20 minutes then see how far you can go at 70MPH. Out of Spec does a "10 minute" challenge. But based on the weight of this vehicle, 20 minutes seems more realistic. I hate to charge my Model 3 more than 20 minutes unless I'm eating lunch on a road trip.
It always seems that the actual range is 20 percent less. Especially at higher speeds. Tesla downgraded their range this year. I think due to a lawsuit.
I mean, the range they quoted is for mixed driving, right?
Well kind of? The company can run which ever test they want to rate the range. It’s not standardized. So the old Taycan is rated at 220 or so and can actually get about 300 at highway speeds. So it’s hard to really gauge the range until you test it. The Lyriq best it’s EPA which was promising for the Equinox, but here we are!
Did you mention whether you had a dual or single motor? I must have missed it if you did.
I don’t recall if I did. This was the FWD 3LT!
The result shouldn’t be that different for AWD since the motor on spins up when needed for acceleration, which doesn’t happen often on a highway at a constant speed.
@@theaverageevI was curious because the EPA mileage rating is different for the two, but thanks for pointing out the different ways the motors work. I can see how the AWD's second motor wouldn't effect your range test by much.
One thing I wonder is just how much crosswind did you have. I found on my ioniq5 that it can take a significant bite out of economy, even if it’s like a 5 mph crosswind.
5mph
The first attempt had a 5 mph head and tail wind.
430 km for the rest of the planet. But I've seen some do a lot more in their equinox.
Can you send me that info or links?
@theaverageev it's from someone on Facebook who did a road trip on chevrolet equinox ev - quebec
Would using the Super Cruise cause a drain on the battery as well? Im new to EV's and have been looking at either the Equinox or the ID4.
Not enough to worry about! Both are great cars!
I like the seats of the. Equinox better and the infotainment is awesome as well.
They both drive well and are pretty quiet for the price range.
ID.4 charges way better.
Those are my quick thoughts between the two. (We own both)
@@theaverageev ok, really good to know, and im going to test drive both of them again in a couple of months and will buy sometime late Fall when they start marking them down even more. Thanks so much for the videos!
How was the wind the night of this test?
Edit: NVM I see the answer below in another comment.
Thanks for providing this information. I don't own an EV yet and am looking at the Equinox EV, Kia EV6, or Mustang Mach-e - all AWD. Not sure about the ID4, since it has the lowest published range. Anyone have any thoughts on this? Anyone know which is the most and least efficient? I am guessing the Mach-e is the least efficient.
What will the car be used for the majority of the time? If you are only occasionally going long distances I would pick the car you like the styling, driving dynamics, and comfort the most!
I know people that have all of the cars you listed and love them!
EV6 is the most efficient and ID.4 is next based on FuelEconomy.Gov
@@theaverageev Thanks, seems like sound advice since we only drive 200 miles round trip less than once per month on average.
Dumb question but are the Tires at the correct PSI spec?
They were for the test, yes! 42 PSI
Great video. So, 70 mph gives about 268,5 miles for 2.9 mi/kWh it is a little low for such a big pack (85 kWh).
And just for you to know, doing a loop style test, the differences in elevation are pretty much nullified.
Yes that’s why I do the loop, but I think the weight of the vehicle and lower regen didn’t help efficiency either. If there was a bit more regen it would have helped, but I was at the mercy of cruise control.
@@theaverageev I doubt the regenerative braking has much importance in a steady speed scenario. And although I agree the weight does have an impact in stop and go traffic, it is a lot less important in the steady speed scenario. The Ioniq 5 RWD is doing about 3.2 mi/kWh in the same kind of test, and I think it’s boxier than the Equinox EV at about the same weight.
Try it at 62mph. That is the best range I get on my Bolt EV. Real world 62 mph let's you draft goods tracks and 8mph is less time vs range vs driving through vs charging.
There are two draft zones on trucks. Up close which can be dangerous or at 2.5-3 length of the truck which offer less but significant drafting.
9 kW vs 13kW at 62 mph on flat roads. 69 mph is 22 kW.
19" or 21" Wheels? FWD or AWD?
I put that in the description! Sorry!
3LT FWD. Comes standard with 21” Wheels.
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What tires are on it? Different tires have different amounts of rolling resistance. Depending on the tires, The range of the same car on the same rout can vary by as much as 10%.Tire rolling resistance makes a much bigger difference in EV's than combustion, because of their high efficiency, and relatively low amounts of stored energy. I'm sure you did this, but inflation pressures make a bigger difference as well. Before setting off on a range test, check the tire pressures! Hills shouldn't make nearly as much difference in an EV, because of regenerative braking. Weight also makes less of a difference, because more energy spent accelerating or climbing, is also recovered by regenerative braking going down the other side, or when slowing down. There are huge differences in dynamics, between driving EV or combustion.
Yup tire pressures were set.
These were the OEMs tires.
That range is admittedly a little short for what I expect from GM. They have been pretty good with the Bolt getting very close to it's rated range when new. And the few tests I had seen of the Blazer it appeared GM was fairly close to meeting the rated range. Not overly efficient, but GM is still in the "throw a bigger battery in it" mentality. The Equinox range you are getting is a little disappointing all things considered. First poor charging curve and speeds, now coming up fairly substantially below the rated range when new... Not a good look for GM.
I don't recommend loaning your car to other drivers for road trip tests. It's a disaster waiting to happen. There nothing wrong with your real world testing. You don't need to scientifically prove an EV's perfect range.
I appreciate that, I would be very selective, but you are right.
It seems as though you didn't actually have it in Eco climate mode because it didn't register when you pressed it
I did, I went back and fixed it before I left. No worries.
From the data on the lyric and your test the reason the lyric did better than its rating is because GM wants the numbers at 300 miles and with a 104 kwh pack on the lyric it will easily hit 300 miles so they weren't trying to stretch it. The 89 kwh pack on the equinox won't hit 300 miles without going slower. The lyric should not get it's EPA range at 70 mph because the EPA is based on a blend of city and highway. So they low balled the numbers because of the big pack. They can't low ball the smaller pack and hit the target 300 miles at all highway speeds.
And both battery packs are bigger than what's claimed. Put another 15 kwh on your pack and you will hit 300 miles at 70 mph
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
I’d be interested in seeing someone do a test with the AWD to see if there is any difference. Been driving the wife’s car around the city and at about 60 mph on side roads and it seems pretty good. The jump from 60 to 70 mph could be a huge difference in mileage.
10mph makes a huge difference!
Yes and we have the 2LT AWD on 19” so i would be interesting if we would get close to your results. I dont want to put myself thru what you have done but thanks for doing the test for us
Meteor or UFO at 2:35?...you decide
I think if you drove at 60 mph your range would have been substantially more 1:33
Most definitely!!!
I’d bet 90% of people don’t drive more than 60 miles per day. EV’s would be just fine. People manage to plug their phones in and always have a cell phone, why can’t they charge their car?
Nothing like a good old walmart parking lot.
I don't understand. How would elevation impact an electric vehicle's milage?, Elevation would impact ICE vehicles because of combustion and lack of oxygen density.
Increased power output on inclines.
It does recoup a lot on decline.
If I am spending thirty or forty thousand on an automobile and it states the car gets three hundred miles to the gallon or range. When you get in and go, you should not be on pins and needles about your speed. You don't drive 45 mph all the time, and you don't drive 70 or 75 mph. Roads have different speed limits. I certainly think it should get what it states. If not, it is a deception.
Again, T.Y.V.M. for your toad test.