Professional Cheaters: A History

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  • Опубликовано: 26 сен 2024
  • Hello British discount internet historian here! Are you tired of loosing in overwatch? Perhaps you want to set a new hardcore minecraft speedrun but you dont have a spare 300 hours to get perfect odds well then why not cheat? What about hacking the games files to modify the drop rates of items. What about screen cheating on the worlds stage of an esports tournament or heck what about stealing ingame houses and selling them for profit on Ebay. Anything is possible in the world of professional cheaters who can steal and break any game in existence for their advantage. So discover the fun dubious cheating stories of the fortnite pro who cheated their ways into the world championships and $50k, the dubious story of Dream the accidental Minecraft speedrun hacker and even an incredible league of legends cheat that resulted in the largest screen cheating bust.
    So sit back and watch as the spiffing brit does a deep dive into the fantastic world history of professional cheaters and how they print infinite money by exploiting game advantages for themselves!
    What you have seen here today is part of a fantastic perfectly balanced series on youtube where I go from game to game and break them with wacky exploits to gain things like unlimited gold and infinite money all in a fantastic montage. If you enjoyed this then be sure to check out more. The style is similar to RT game and callmekevin in parts. A large influence on this series has come from Valefisk and The Killian Experience.
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    Title: The History Of Professional Cheaters - Video Game Cheats Are Perfectly Balanced With No Exploits

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  • @imtoospartan1134
    @imtoospartan1134 3 года назад +16704

    Talks about dream cheating and doesn’t get dislike bombed. That’s how you know only intellectuals watch the Spiffingbrit

    • @Alexander-te2gt
      @Alexander-te2gt 3 года назад +622

      Spiff just countered it with negative dislikes

    • @dgnx1888
      @dgnx1888 3 года назад +78

      Just wait until they figured out

    • @derptyderp5287
      @derptyderp5287 3 года назад +374

      "That’s how you know only intellectuals watch..."
      I'll let myself out then...

    • @sandychen1381
      @sandychen1381 3 года назад +6

      Hi

    • @SIRJACOBSTINE
      @SIRJACOBSTINE 3 года назад +45

      Don't worry, they will be here soon. they are like the sand people. they are easily scared, but they will be back, and in greater numbers.

  • @Sephiroth5200
    @Sephiroth5200 3 года назад +5802

    I've always had a rule. Beat the game legitimately first. After that, it's a wonderful sandbox full of cheats and exploits in the name of continuing replayability that I bend to whatever diabolical whims I desire.😈

    • @larryjohnson3087
      @larryjohnson3087 3 года назад +594

      The rule is single player do what ever makes you happy. Once you join multiple don’t cheat just be bad like everyone else!

    • @DannyMexen9
      @DannyMexen9 3 года назад +54

      Just like real life... Wait, what?

    • @mathiastheapprentice
      @mathiastheapprentice 3 года назад +64

      Nothing embodies this like GTA online. Got everything on PS4 legit, switched to xbox one and have glitched tens of millions and am still going.

    • @Sephiroth5200
      @Sephiroth5200 3 года назад +48

      @@larryjohnson3087 Absolutely. I love rpg's and racing games. Fair is the name of the game in multiplayer for both. I can't say everyone is just as honorable though.

    • @pixelated_jefe
      @pixelated_jefe 3 года назад +16

      I still use that rule for my games today. Beat them first. Dump shiiii tons of mods and cheats after 😎

  • @danbaker8965
    @danbaker8965 3 года назад +2509

    Imagine using mods to make the hardest part of a speed-run, that you’ve done successfully hundreds of times, extremely easy…. and then only getting 5th.

    • @nebei3740
      @nebei3740 2 года назад +72

      Well its not the hardest part at all its just rng and its actually possible to get the drop rates he had but he messed up and had those good drop rates way to consistently therefore making it statistically impossible from his actual speed run alone its impossible to say if he cheated but he messed up by streaming or uploading (dont remember) multiple attempts

    • @crocsarethepurestformofwea3122
      @crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 2 года назад +401

      @@nebei3740 POV: Dream stan trying to say Dream didn't cheat

    • @eaglestrike6408
      @eaglestrike6408 2 года назад +41

      @@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 to be fair, I don't particularly think he did chest on purpose.
      I mean you go through the effort to hiring someone to do math, defend yourself vigorously in the public, lash out at others and also make multiple videos denying such cheating.
      That's not really something actual cheaters do.
      I mean, I've seen them. Cheaters tend to just shut up and let it go under the rug.
      This is the internet, people tend to forget shit after a week.

    • @crocsarethepurestformofwea3122
      @crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 2 года назад +346

      @@eaglestrike6408 POV: Another Dream stan defending Dream cheating

    • @eaglestrike6408
      @eaglestrike6408 2 года назад +54

      @@crocsarethepurestformofwea3122 personally, I think attacking me as a person is a poor rebuttal.
      I also don't watch Dream anyway so, it doesn't apply to me.
      Should watch Karl Jobst's video on it, it is quite fascinating.

  • @legate6680
    @legate6680 3 года назад +2697

    I don't cheat, I just inject Yorkshire Tea into my computer and I automatically win.

    • @keatonwastaken
      @keatonwastaken 3 года назад +129

      Using Yorkshire Tea as the liquid cooling is a very secret strategy.

    • @TheChillerCow
      @TheChillerCow 3 года назад +19

      Nah that isn't efficient as you need to replace it afterwards instead inject it into you blood stream and you can embrace the queen's ultimate power

    • @f1shyspace
      @f1shyspace 3 года назад +59

      @@TheChillerCow irl cheat code to become immortal

    • @thelonesculler
      @thelonesculler 3 года назад +16

      Spiffing Brit/Linus Tech Tips crossover?

    • @fantasypvp
      @fantasypvp 2 года назад +13

      @@thelonesculler we need this.
      linus dropping things is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits

  • @simracingsemantics9821
    @simracingsemantics9821 3 года назад +1066

    Standupmaths did a video on the odds of it being legit and (im paraphrasing) "if every single human played minecraft every single second of every single day for the entire history of humanity, it would happen exactly once"

    • @schwingedeshaehers
      @schwingedeshaehers 3 года назад +106

      I recommend the video from Karl Jobst

    • @balexbalex815
      @balexbalex815 3 года назад +81

      Oh god lads get ready for the bombardment of rage from Dream stans the second they find out someone said Dream cheated

    • @Justacidity
      @Justacidity 3 года назад +105

      @@balexbalex815 Nah they know he cheated cause he came out a bit ago and said that there was a mod that could've changed the rates slightly but they are now defending his actions. Look I like his Manhunts and stuff. They are entertaining but if he cheated then he cheated

    • @chief5002
      @chief5002 3 года назад +43

      @@Justacidity personally I don’t think he intentionally cheated like he said but he also tried to cover it up and acted like a tool which makes him a loser

    • @knowbounds
      @knowbounds 3 года назад +19

      No he said it's still magnitudes off (3 magnitudes off)

  • @jordanjamesstavrakis1683
    @jordanjamesstavrakis1683 3 года назад +962

    I remember when the whole Dream cheating scandal was going down. So many videos from different people doing the maths and showing just how ridiculous the odds were for the drop rates he had (Something like 1 in 7.5 trillion). For weeks he was just denying it, even released his own video trying to "debunk" the original claim he was cheating.
    It was a time to be sure

    • @ChiknPog
      @ChiknPog 2 года назад +90

      Still don't know how people actually supported him during that

    • @thatrandonamedrandy
      @thatrandonamedrandy 2 года назад +101

      Oh, that debunking video. Apparently the document had numerous errors, that even r/statistics basically tore it to the ground in ways that I could only laugh. That video is no longer available, but the aftermath of people basically stating the errors that were present made my day because I don't expect this stuff to reach this far.
      Dream did eventually confess to the cheating, saying it was an accident. I don't know if I believe him, because I know nothing about what he is talking about with client-side and server-side mods, and his wording continues to impress me with how he confuses even my dumb ass. That being said, feel free to decide whether you believe it or not. I personally don't care about the situation as much as his fans did, but more power to them, I guess.

    • @sword_racer185
      @sword_racer185 2 года назад +54

      @@thatrandonamedrandy it's impossible for anything to run without him giving it the ok, and even if it was an accident it's still his responsibility to make sure no mods or anything that could tamper with the run are disabled beforehand

    • @thatrandonamedrandy
      @thatrandonamedrandy 2 года назад +12

      @@sword_racer185 Yes, when you are partaking in competition, it is YOUR responsibility to make sure that you are running the vanilla game without any potential mods that could increase luck, but as I said, the apology was weirdly confusing of a read for me. Again, it's because I am stupid and don't understand Minecraft modding enough to say for certain on the idea that it was an accident.
      I'm sticking with the neutral, still. Even if it was an accident, it won't change my thoughts, though, because in competition, as you said, you always want to ensure that your game's not been modded to give yourself the advantage. Fact of the matter is, Dream had every opportunity to check his mods folder even BEFORE the streams occured, so the fact that he didn't bother to check is confusing, but then again, I guess reflexes can also be attributed to this, where he automatically assumed that the mod wasn't active or installed. I don't know, I might be busting my own 2 brain cells apart from this.
      TLDR; yea, I agree with you, but I am still confused because of my low understanding of most of this.

    • @sword_racer185
      @sword_racer185 2 года назад +51

      @@thatrandonamedrandy essentially when you boot up minecraft your taken to a launcher and you can select which version you want to play, modded versions will always come up as forge or fabric as you need either forge or fabric to run mods on minecraft. ive read his apology and watched his video. all i have to say is that dream is full of BS. im not hating to hate either, i gave dream a fair shake for a long time but when he rolled out his apology statement and how it was an accident it instantly screamed lies, the way dream is saying it is the same as alec baldwin saying that the gun fired on its own

  • @rolandholmdahl797
    @rolandholmdahl797 3 года назад +2266

    I just love how you say super casually and plainly that Dream cheated like a total Giga Chad. And that is another reason why I subscribed.

    • @Zenoferrum
      @Zenoferrum 2 года назад +120

      @@chaoslordnicky9723 dream also said himself that he cheated and told people that they should "get over it"

    • @rawn9234
      @rawn9234 2 года назад +11

      little Beta lured

    • @zaferoph
      @zaferoph 2 года назад +9

      @@Zenoferrum they never do. Nobody does on either end of it.

    • @whyiwakeup6460
      @whyiwakeup6460 2 года назад +8

      @@Zenoferrum yeah, I remember going back to a lot of the videos covering the situation like 3 months after it they were made, and have been somewhat defending him since. He did cheat, but he didn’t notice because for all/most of his manhunts and such use the modified drops. People wanted to pounce on him immediately after he did it (for good reason) but didn’t actually listen to what he had to say until he gave more of the truth. He was dealt a bad hand and he should have been trusted a bit more

    • @Zenoferrum
      @Zenoferrum 2 года назад +130

      @@whyiwakeup6460 no he shouldn't faking his manhunt drops is fine, using those same drop rate mods in official runs, claiming it to be legitimate for months and allowing his toxic fanbase to defend him by any means only to say he did actually cheat and brush it off as nothing is not only completely disrespectful to the speedrunning mod team and their time (which went through serious drama due to alot of them knowing dream) but also to other speedrunners who get faster times than him without needing mods. Dream deserves to be banned and isn't for the sole reason of his amount of clout and his fanbase who isn't shy of sending death threats and doxxing people. Anyone else who tried doing what he did would've been banned on the spot otherwise.

  • @PopeMical
    @PopeMical 3 года назад +2238

    "League is a game for very salty people to enjoy"
    Sorry Spiff I need to stop you right there. I don't normally correct you on things but I can definitely say that no one enjoys playing league, we are all just addicted instead.

    • @pinkyuri5
      @pinkyuri5 3 года назад +22

      ppl actually do enjoy it. it's ranked that salty people enjoy.

    • @silentbyte196
      @silentbyte196 2 года назад +81

      @@pinkyuri5 No

    • @dapper_cobra8319
      @dapper_cobra8319 2 года назад +29

      i hate how correct you are

    • @joshwist556
      @joshwist556 2 года назад +71

      @@pinkyuri5 No, even Casual and unranked is reeking with sweat, salt, and rage for the smallest shit.

    • @mathew4485
      @mathew4485 2 года назад +6

      incorrect i am very salty and i play league

  • @thatrandomguy8988
    @thatrandomguy8988 3 года назад +1545

    "Let's say you've millions of adoring child fans who believe you're the greatest Minecraft player ever"
    Oh damn, starting with him right off the bat. I wanna see how the Brits vs 12 year olds will go on

    • @okboomerbutitsacat8050
      @okboomerbutitsacat8050 3 года назад +78

      Except no 12 year olds will find this video, or atleast I haven't seen any

    • @ezrastewart543
      @ezrastewart543 3 года назад +16

      @@okboomerbutitsacat8050 me being 13:

    • @sillydave5544
      @sillydave5544 3 года назад +58

      @@ezrastewart543 Why it just simply means you have the brain power of a wise man!

    • @math3000
      @math3000 3 года назад +3

      Well, looks like child labor is back on the menu boys

    • @ezrastewart543
      @ezrastewart543 3 года назад +18

      @@math3000 how do we eat child labor?

  • @gellasztomania1643
    @gellasztomania1643 3 года назад +819

    "This is why we never cheat in multiplayer game"
    Tell that to the Payday 2 playerbase

    • @Kalmaggedon
      @Kalmaggedon 3 года назад +112

      Well Payday 2 is not PvP so we dont realy care about it. Let them destroy there games as much as they want.

    • @hashhashbrowns5381
      @hashhashbrowns5381 3 года назад +3

      I remember doing the / glitch in siege

    • @toko099o
      @toko099o 3 года назад +35

      Its an online fps game that is coming up on being 8 years old. I would be shocked if the people in it didn't cheat constantly. Although I find the word cheat kinda stretching what people are doing.

    • @gellasztomania1643
      @gellasztomania1643 3 года назад +51

      @@Kalmaggedon If they kept it in their own lobbies, that would be fine. The problem is, you seldom can join a cheater-free public lobby these days. This may not be a PvP game, but it's still a co-op game. If one can carry like half of Fort Knox on their shoulders while running across the map with infinite HP while spawning in minigun turrets just to fuck your shit up, that ain't fair.

    • @gellasztomania1643
      @gellasztomania1643 3 года назад +11

      @@toko099o Fair point.
      It is not the fact that there are cheaters in an online game that grinds my gears, it's how prevalent they are. Barely anyone plays loud missions on the highest difficulty nowadays, and most lobbies have some form of cheating (edited stats and/or achievements, cheat mods, trainers and paid third-party software). Really sours the experience.

  • @greenmind3488
    @greenmind3488 2 года назад +855

    With the dream thing: its also important to note that dream was claiming that his mods somehow stayed on, even after switching off of the modded profile. He claimed the mods somehow had edited the base game files...
    Impossible on so many levels to the point its painful. Yet people still accepted it as a legitimate reason. The chances of that are lower than him legitimately getting those droprates.

    • @WildBluntHickok
      @WildBluntHickok 2 года назад +37

      Actually turning off the modded profile wouldn't help because you don't need mods to change the drop rate. Just a zip file with text files in it in your world's datapack folder. You remove the file to turn it off, not restart the game with a non-modded version of minecraft. Changing loot tables has been a vanilla feature since 1.9 (2015).
      Dream just doesn't understand what mods are. He thought vanilla customization options were mods.

    • @greenmind3488
      @greenmind3488 2 года назад +93

      @@WildBluntHickok Still, datapacks have to be added to that specific world's files, you cant make a new world and it just shows up, which is what he claimed.
      Still not possible, and he failed trying to lie his way out of it

    • @qoque2737
      @qoque2737 2 года назад +24

      From his behavior, he's most likely acting in a way to save as much fans as possible from unsubbing to his channel, he knows how people think and act, especially younger peeps. I recall that he "bragged" or stated that he knew that he was gonna be famous, so yeah he probably purposely cheated.

    • @jerryteel5682
      @jerryteel5682 2 года назад +1

      You realise he probobly has thrown out 100s of runs because he wasnt lucky enough.

    • @NoPlanHan
      @NoPlanHan 2 года назад +67

      @@jerryteel5682 every speedrunner resets hundreds of times due to RNG. Weird how none have ever before or since seen the luck that Dream got.

  • @archiealanwelsh
    @archiealanwelsh 3 года назад +269

    There was an “exploit” story on a Russian competitive Dota2 scene. In 2013, during one of the tournaments, a player by the nickname “Solo” bet 100$ against his team and did everything he could to make his team lose. And so they did. He basically thought that that game didn’t mean anything in terms of their points, so he took an opportunity to make some cash.
    However his deed was found out and he was banned for life from all Valve tournaments.
    This whole situation spawned a meme “322”, because he won 322$ from his bet.

    • @rocketf20
      @rocketf20 2 года назад +25

      He wasn’t banned for life by Valve, he was banned from Starladder for a period. He is still a pro player

    • @ZorotheGallade
      @ZorotheGallade 2 года назад +1

      People going the length to get esports recognized as actual sports and then think fixing bets isn't a big deal

  • @MrGaiakid
    @MrGaiakid 3 года назад +3673

    Riot: "lets make it super easy for pro players to cheat in front of a live audience"
    Also Riot: "Whaaaaa? They cheated? How dare they! Lets punish them and not fix how they were able to cheat"
    I feel like they did that on purpose to troll people

    • @Dream0Asylum
      @Dream0Asylum 3 года назад +178

      Let's put the jumbo-tron where it faces one team only, and then blame them for looking at it. What do you mean; "We're the idiots.?"

    • @darthsidious6380
      @darthsidious6380 2 года назад +78

      They probably did that so they could remove winnings from the game when they want.

    • @Xenomorphin1
      @Xenomorphin1 2 года назад +79

      Why the fuck don't they switch the giant ass screen around, so the opponent is looking at their own screen when they glance up? Having to turn and look up behind you is a way more of a cheater move, and is more noticeable than just lifting your eyes to see everything

    • @GuitarListen
      @GuitarListen 2 года назад +3

      @@Xenomorphin1 bro this incident is 10+ years old. chill out

    • @Xenomorphin1
      @Xenomorphin1 2 года назад +62

      @@GuitarListen so? Who cares if it's 10 years old if a random person on the internet can solve it by not even thinking about it? Also duck off with your "chill out"

  • @losingluke
    @losingluke 2 года назад +499

    cheating is ok in a singleplayer setting or in a game that is incredibly unfair and requires microtransactions to have fun

    • @SuperSlick1996
      @SuperSlick1996 2 года назад +43

      I feel bad cheating in Skyrim until I get soft locked..you know how it be

    • @LegoLordPro
      @LegoLordPro 2 года назад +85

      Any EA game deserves to be exploited to be honest.

    • @corradoalamanni179
      @corradoalamanni179 2 года назад

      In the last is also gine to sail the high seas

    • @Godviahh
      @Godviahh 2 года назад +52

      cheating is okay IN GENERAL in singleplayer games. its singleplayer, it doesnt matter

    • @papercamera2989
      @papercamera2989 2 года назад

      @@LegoLordPro As in games the publish or games they develop?

  • @TOSkwar22
    @TOSkwar22 3 года назад +137

    Man, there's so much more history of cheaters you could go into, all the way back to arcade gaming days.

    • @callmeriggy
      @callmeriggy 3 года назад +20

      I don't think he wants to get sued by Billy Mitchell.

    • @TOSkwar22
      @TOSkwar22 3 года назад +13

      @@callmeriggy True, have to worry about whiny little losers who lied and cheated coming to sue you if you want to talk about the real facts of what happened.

    • @BizarePlayer
      @BizarePlayer 3 года назад +4

      Billy Mitchell and Todd Rogers are legendary cheaters at this point. How long they have tried to deny it, 30+ years?

  • @antonioloma2327
    @antonioloma2327 3 года назад +97

    11:18 Spiffing Brit exploiting the Roman Numbers (XIV -> eleven).

    • @tylerbrown9631
      @tylerbrown9631 3 года назад +10

      All a clever ploy to get extra comments, of course! That spiffing Brit has exploited us all!

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 3 года назад +2

      FF11 was right. FF11 would later turn to FF14 after they decide to kill the world and start from scratch.

    • @jianzen
      @jianzen 3 года назад +8

      @@belisarius6949 Not quite. FFXI and FFXIV are entirely separate games. FFXIV did go through an entire shutdown and relaunch as ‘A Realm Reborn’, but that is entirely separate to FFXI.

    • @Kokuyous3ki
      @Kokuyous3ki 3 года назад

      Main point is, he has shown the FFXIV logo so yea...

  • @Strohkopfs
    @Strohkopfs 3 года назад +657

    Spiff: We cant use exploits in MMO's.
    Also Spiff: Exploits RUclips multiple times for real money^^

  • @ExplosiveCherry
    @ExplosiveCherry 3 года назад +366

    Have you considered that they just had RGB lights in the corners of their rooms

    • @sandychen1381
      @sandychen1381 3 года назад +3

      No

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 3 года назад

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

    • @jan-lukas
      @jan-lukas 3 года назад

      THEY JUST HAVE AN RGB GAMING CHAIR FINALLY I KNOW HOW TO BE GOOD AT GAMES

    • @thatrandonamedrandy
      @thatrandonamedrandy 2 года назад

      Why hello there, would you care to see my RGB lighting? I spent three thousand dollars.
      Ok, don't ask why I said that, I felt like saying it for fun.

  • @100Peterll
    @100Peterll 3 года назад +261

    Ah yes, this reminds me of professional players casually "charging their phones" on tournaments which is also a clear sign that they are definitely not cheating...

    • @colby1398
      @colby1398 3 года назад +39

      Right? It's like these esport organizations don't understand that plugging your phone into the computer means you can run code stored on the phone lol

    • @TracinyaLachance
      @TracinyaLachance 3 года назад +8

      Why are esport organizers THIS stupid? If I even had my phone on me at an exam at Uni, I'd be immediately disqualified. It's like cheating 101.

    • @thatrandonamedrandy
      @thatrandonamedrandy 2 года назад

      Alright, you peaked my interest, please explain this.

    • @nachoferrari240
      @nachoferrari240 2 года назад

      @@thatrandonamedrandy I want to know too

    • @LethalMonarch
      @LethalMonarch 2 года назад +6

      @@thatrandonamedrandy my best guess is they connect their phone to their computer in order to charge it, but their phone has a program on it that injects cheats into the game

  • @mastercrazyyyd7699
    @mastercrazyyyd7699 2 года назад +81

    The only time I've ever "cheat" in a game is when playing a single player game just to try out some crazy stuff or a game in private lobbies with friends just to dick around with each other for the heck of it

  • @jsparrow115
    @jsparrow115 3 года назад +469

    I hate Blizzard because of their mod policy. Basically when you mod a Blizzard game, they own all your ideas and are free to steal them. (I think they're mad they don't own DOTA.)

    • @DarkAuraLord
      @DarkAuraLord 3 года назад +87

      Blizzard is a joke, I don't touch anything associated with their name.

    • @colby1398
      @colby1398 3 года назад +99

      They're big mad that they don't own DOTA. They even tried to make their own that flopped.

    • @teedeegremlin
      @teedeegremlin 3 года назад +8

      It really be a Valve moment

    • @sanctionh2993
      @sanctionh2993 3 года назад +5

      Ultima Online did this. Many ideas from private servers made their way to the main game.
      And frankly, it's their IP, why shouldn't they own any work done with it? It's theirs, it isn't open source.

    • @burp2019
      @burp2019 3 года назад +24

      @@sanctionh2993 that's like saying nintendo should own a game just because it has a nintendo character in it, doesn't make sense

  • @Midori-Ge
    @Midori-Ge 3 года назад +77

    "What does this cheat us?"
    That's an interesting, but not surprising slip, man.

    • @tianamaycry
      @tianamaycry 3 года назад

      Truth. lol

    • @Foreststrike
      @Foreststrike 3 года назад +5

      Teaching is an anagram for cheating.
      Amazing, isn't it?

  • @I_will_defeat_everyone
    @I_will_defeat_everyone 3 года назад +2507

    No one ever cheated...
    They just have a good gaming chair

    • @SirFlooberis
      @SirFlooberis 3 года назад +17

      @Low Tier God cool but I don’t think anyone ask😯

    • @Error_451
      @Error_451 3 года назад

      @@kupicx nice

    • @hapwn
      @hapwn 3 года назад +6

      Respect the skill - hiding cheats is an art in itself! 😎

    • @SmokeSAS
      @SmokeSAS 3 года назад +11

      @@SirFlooberis what are you? An 8 yr old redditor? “Dude no one asked smh” no one asks for anything INCLUDING your little brain comment, go back to your lego StarWars because I guarantee you didn’t 100% it scrub.
      Imagine not 100%ing lego starwars smh
      Edit: Tried white knighting and defended the wrong person lol I’m dumb, accept my apology by me not deleting this comment forever.

    • @TurlasThe6
      @TurlasThe6 3 года назад +4

      @@SmokeSAS LTG, stop switching accounts. We know its you.

  • @LTBLACKCOAT
    @LTBLACKCOAT 3 года назад +81

    I find it hilarius that "screen looking" (Or "screen cheating") became an actual thing in competitive sport.

    • @toxic_shr00m
      @toxic_shr00m 2 года назад +1

      Whom tf calls it "screen looking"?

    • @ferrucyon9149
      @ferrucyon9149 2 года назад +12

      Who tf says “whom”

    • @toxic_shr00m
      @toxic_shr00m 2 года назад +1

      @@ferrucyon9149 People that use the English language properly

    • @airenlee7084
      @airenlee7084 2 года назад +9

      @@toxic_shr00m "whom the fuck" doesnt even make sense LMAO

    • @Bubbly_Dragon
      @Bubbly_Dragon 2 года назад +2

      @@toxic_shr00m Imagine trying to dunk on someone for proper grammar and not even knowing how to use whom lmao

  • @justinbuddy56
    @justinbuddy56 3 года назад +588

    Still find it funny that Dream refused to hand the speedrun board mods his mod folder for weeks, until he deleted everything that proved he cheated out of it. Also his fans sent people death threats for believing he cheated, but immediately switched to “oh we all make mistakes, it’s not his fault” as soon as he confirmed he cheated.
    Edit made a mistake: Dream didn’t hand over his mod folder, but if I remember correctly he made his “mod folder” open to the public in his apology video. This “mod folder” I believe had things removed, but I’m not entirely sure.

    • @pzyqux6641
      @pzyqux6641 3 года назад +81

      Dream does not seem to understand what a stan is, since he is positive to people being way too obsessed with him.
      Slight correction because i care about details: He did not refuse to send his mod folder and then after a few weeks send it after deleting the incriminating details, he never sent his mod folder to the mods at all because he said he had deleted it.

    • @Silverlined_69
      @Silverlined_69 3 года назад +14

      @@pzyqux6641 ummm. The mods never asked for it when they first asked for some files. It wasn't until the mods asked again, specifically asking for the mod folder, that dream told them he deleted it

    • @Laszer271
      @Laszer271 3 года назад +39

      @@pzyqux6641 That's because mods didn't want his mod folder when he offered. And even if he did send it, what would it prove? He could easily send other mod folder than the one he was using and claim that's the one.

    • @pzyqux6641
      @pzyqux6641 3 года назад +2

      @@Silverlined_69 I know, what i said does not conflict with this.

    • @pzyqux6641
      @pzyqux6641 3 года назад +5

      @@Laszer271 I know this, saw Karl Jobst video.

  • @merijnfluitman5761
    @merijnfluitman5761 3 года назад +271

    What about Daniel Abt? The professional race driver who hired a professional sim racer when Formula E resorted to e-racing during the first lockdown. He got caught and lost his job racing for Audi.

    • @colby1398
      @colby1398 3 года назад +21

      Ah yes, because people in separate cars were such a danger to each other lmao.

    • @the_algorithm
      @the_algorithm 3 года назад +62

      @@colby1398 I get the sarcasm, but pit crews and event organizers etc. etc. etc.
      There is a LOT behind the scenes just to get the car on the track.

    • @barryemery9494
      @barryemery9494 3 года назад +22

      @@colby1398 ahh yes because the only one who maters is the driver

    • @freedustin
      @freedustin 3 года назад +9

      @@barryemery9494 nah the only one who maters is me...Tow Mater!

    • @kevinduliesco5468
      @kevinduliesco5468 3 года назад +2

      Ooh that's hard,sheesh btw 101 like

  • @keegan1948
    @keegan1948 3 года назад +11

    Imagine having your cool little house from Ultima stolen from you just to turn around and see the guy who took your land create a full-time business meant to help gaming companies prevent cheaters from doing exactly what he did all with the money stolen from you without any repercussions at all

  • @HurrpyDurrDerp
    @HurrpyDurrDerp 3 года назад +377

    You're gonna put Internet Historian out of work Spiff!

    • @magustrigger9195
      @magustrigger9195 3 года назад +30

      Thats a bold claim
      IH has like 7 channels and is much spicer.
      Spiff is a nice cup of tea but IH is a hot hot plate of curry

    • @girrrrrrr2
      @girrrrrrr2 3 года назад +4

      He did that himself.

    • @VRDejaVu
      @VRDejaVu 3 года назад +6

      considering he used the exact same footage that Historian used for the LoL cheaters... yes, probably XD

    • @kouron
      @kouron 3 года назад

      not in 15 minutes

    • @ickaruus4909
      @ickaruus4909 3 года назад +1

      Not even close. The editing is like a hundredth of what internet historian does

  • @squalho5190
    @squalho5190 3 года назад +18

    Manfred's story is amazing, he hacked games for 20 years, and his hacks were very technically complex. If you want to know more there are 2 episodes of Darknet Diaries podcast dedicated to him, he narrates in person most of the stories. Look it up!

  • @tbxvividos
    @tbxvividos 2 года назад +21

    *talks about Dream for 4 and a half minutes
    4:34 "lets talk about actual professionals instead"
    LOL sick burn XD

  • @LenkyLad
    @LenkyLad 3 года назад +28

    Each video like this puts him closer and closer to collaborating with Internet Historian.

    • @strikervx4435
      @strikervx4435 3 года назад +2

      But one uploads and one doesn't

  • @tacticalwookiee7476
    @tacticalwookiee7476 3 года назад +220

    Damn Clara is a world traveler! Going around delivering hacks like Santa.

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE 3 года назад +2

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎

  • @lye1035
    @lye1035 2 года назад +32

    You forgot the time where a league of legends team playing in the world championship modded their computers so that their maps had no fog of war. They absolutely annihilated.

  • @shaun138
    @shaun138 3 года назад +14

    Was hoping for Spiff to mention Riolu who was one of the top Trackmania players in the world. Turns out he played the game in slow motion and fell from grace harder than the devil himself.

  • @bobbobigson9205
    @bobbobigson9205 3 года назад +35

    Well, all of them wouldn't need to cheat, if they just drank Yorkshire Gold Tea

    • @Vugtis_El_VillaVODS
      @Vugtis_El_VillaVODS 3 года назад +2

      They would WANT to cheat. I mean, look at Spiff. He has built his career in circumventing the rules

  • @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad
    @solgerWhyIsThereAnAtItLooksBad 2 года назад +12

    Fun fact: the fortnite cheaters hiding spot was destroyed by a giant monster soon after. It was also the only thing the monster actually destroyed

  • @scarletjester7831
    @scarletjester7831 2 года назад +7

    "I'll never cheat again" really means "I'll (try to) never (get caught) cheat(ing) again"

  • @DryVice
    @DryVice 3 года назад +4

    I have to admit, when I saw the title, I was expecting you to touch on Runescape's 'Falador Massacre' from '06. Great video as always!

  • @doom2alien
    @doom2alien 2 года назад +5

    oh shoot i forgot to turn off the 0.5 speed from watching that other spiffing brit video about 0.5 speed

  • @Nikosstamos42
    @Nikosstamos42 3 года назад +98

    When spif calls you an idiot for hacking/exploiting a game or audience you know you have taken it too far

  • @bahamutbbob
    @bahamutbbob 3 года назад +41

    Spiff, there has always been a raid lockout in WoW. You had to wait 7 days to do a raid again. The issue was that, they skipped a bunch of challenging fights to get straight to C'thun. They literally only had to fight the first and last bosses.

    • @chaoslordnicky9723
      @chaoslordnicky9723 2 года назад

      But all the bosses drop valueable loot wouldnt that had not been as helpful to skip 8 whole mini bosses

    • @Deamia
      @Deamia 2 года назад +5

      @@chaoslordnicky9723 C'thun dropped higher ilevel loot then the rest of the raid, some of it comparable or equal to Naxx 40 ilevels. I think they did the skip when Naxx was live, and they didn't feel like clearing an entire very long raid just for loot from a single boss.

  • @Reveeeey
    @Reveeeey 3 года назад +13

    Im loving these non-typical Spiff videos, very interesting and entertaining!

  • @Theribus
    @Theribus 3 года назад +48

    HOLY SHIT! I was actually a part of Overrated's main raiding group during WoTLK Icecrown! I played a resto druid. WTF! I had no idea that this happened!! O_O

  • @namename5336
    @namename5336 3 года назад +2

    *We need to see a collab between Spiff and Josh from Let's game it out*

  • @StrangelyIronic
    @StrangelyIronic 3 года назад +15

    Spiff made me feel old by using Halo as a reference for screen looking...You're supposed to use Golden Eye so I don't have to ask myself why I'm watching a British man talking about video games whilst knocking on 30's door. Now I need to go hear Lewis make a reference that makes even me feel young.

  • @LegoEngineer003
    @LegoEngineer003 3 года назад +148

    For anyone looking for a really thorough investigation on the Dream issue, Karl Jobst has a 1:15:00 video going into every aspect of it

    • @pancakes4391
      @pancakes4391 2 года назад +10

      Thank you, I was waiting for someone to mention it

    • @andrewli8900
      @andrewli8900 2 года назад +11

      This video's comment section is full of misinformation that Karl's video just outright explains or answers.

    • @ZeroPC1
      @ZeroPC1 2 года назад +9

      Sadly the masses to this day still believe that Dream had every intention of being a shitty person.
      I just wish people would watch Karl's video. Man is 100% unbiased and looks at nearly every angle of the situation

    • @mewmeister8650
      @mewmeister8650 2 года назад +21

      @@ZeroPC1 Eh, while I agree that Dream didn't set out to cheat that day, he absolutely went on to handle the incident in a dickish way, unintentional at first before going into full damage control.

    • @gassug2
      @gassug2 2 года назад +6

      @@ZeroPC1 it's funny because i think a majority watched karl's first video about it, but then ignored the second video to fit their narrative.
      people really let their biases take control. feels over reals, as they say

  • @andyzhu523
    @andyzhu523 3 года назад +5

    I loved the, “I can’t show mmo exploits cuz you’ll all get banned and it’ll be my fault.” Lmao me thinking back to my solo player bannerlord experience after watching your vids

  • @Rufio20008
    @Rufio20008 3 года назад +1

    SPIFF: "Including Final Fantasy 11..."
    *Shows final fantasy 14*
    Love you man.

  • @JSS31M
    @JSS31M 3 года назад +25

    Some days ago I tried yorkshire tea for the first time, it was quite good

  • @silkhenge
    @silkhenge 3 года назад +9

    Can you show more cheater histories like this? This was a fun watch

  • @TheRaptorsClaw
    @TheRaptorsClaw 3 года назад +1

    This video was just barely too early for the incredible Titanfall hacker drama that's been revealed in the last couple days

  • @corruptedplayer
    @corruptedplayer 3 года назад +17

    11:18 "including Final Fantasy eleven" *shows FF14*

    • @linceaerian
      @linceaerian 3 года назад +3

      came here searching for this comment 😂

    • @roftone
      @roftone 3 года назад +1

      @@linceaerian Glad that I wasn't the only one.

    • @belisarius6949
      @belisarius6949 3 года назад

      But FF11 IS FF14...Are you guys daft?
      It only became FF14 in like 2010 when Realm Reborn revamped the game.

    • @roftone
      @roftone 3 года назад

      @@belisarius6949 Nope, you are mistaken. FF11 still exists and receives regular content. It did not become FF14.

    • @linceaerian
      @linceaerian 3 года назад

      @@belisarius6949 :O Didn't know about FF11 being a MMO, hence the joke by @The Sipffing Brit, 14 being similar to 11... It was "rebranded" before 2010 thought, the original version that was reworked into "A realm reborn" was already tagged FF14

  • @Ryu_D
    @Ryu_D 3 года назад +5

    My family has a rule about screen watching in split screen games: It's not cheating, it's a feature. We just make it clear that everyone's allowed to do it, and have fun. Really, why worry about whether someone cheated or not when we can just declare that it's a part of the game? That way, you can't complain that they're screen watching, just that they're doing it better than you are. XP

    • @Ryu_D
      @Ryu_D 2 года назад

      @Lurch7861 Nostalgia. Also distracting the nieces and nephews when they come over. I get to be the cool uncle with all the mysterious ancient technology and games that their friends have never seen. (Or, at least that's how I like to think about it.) XP

  • @kevinduliesco5468
    @kevinduliesco5468 3 года назад +8

    A good gaming chair and a cup of tea to increase your stats while maintaining your perfectly balanced state

  • @ianwagner4281
    @ianwagner4281 3 года назад +6

    Just rang that bell, this is my first time tuning into a premiere (if you can call it that). Keep up the good work, you’ve got one of those rare gaming channels that’s actually special.

  • @Reac2
    @Reac2 3 года назад +5

    I like these essay like videos of your Spiff. You can only have so many Perfectly Balanced videos before your life becomes unbalanced, so I think one of these every now and then is very cool.

  • @tachyon8317
    @tachyon8317 3 года назад +1

    I've been dealing with "screen hoppers" since Super Mario Kart on the SNES, and later in GoldenEye64. To paraphrase Jesus-allegory Lion - "Do not speak of the deep magic to me, wizard. I was there when it was written".

  • @seriousspikesam7770
    @seriousspikesam7770 3 года назад +6

    The last one reminds me of Runescape and Deadman mode tournaments. Clans had mules to give gear and supplies to their best players, killed all the other players and died so that only the marked players remained alive.
    I think they got disqualified in the end, but it was still a bad day for normal players out there. Well, that and people being randomly teleported to instakill zones.

  • @astruh9788
    @astruh9788 2 года назад +4

    I just watched your broken RUclips video on 0.5 and jumped on this one and was confused why you sounded so slow 🤣

  • @cridow
    @cridow 2 года назад +1

    "because otherwise you'd all get banned and it would be my fault"the way he said that is actually so sweet lmao spiff is looking out for us

  • @iljk
    @iljk 2 года назад +3

    Mmmmm the good old Star Wars Battlefron on the ps splitscreen

  • @TakedaIesyu
    @TakedaIesyu 3 года назад +5

    Thank you for making another one of these videos! Hope to see more in the future!!

  • @Ro_Gaming
    @Ro_Gaming 3 года назад +2

    Money Spiff Uses: £
    Money Spiff Talks About: $
    Money Spiff Shows: €

  • @garliccc3695
    @garliccc3695 3 года назад +161

    Single-player game? Looks like a free opportunity to cheat.

    • @AxxLAfriku
      @AxxLAfriku 3 года назад +1

      I have fewer than 1 friend in the World. That's right. Everybody disses me for making bad videos. I think they are perfect though. Who is right? My dissers or me? Which side are you on, dear na

    • @thaias9654
      @thaias9654 3 года назад +8

      @@AxxLAfriku guess you must’ve cheated in the multiplayer game called life, and the devs removed your friends list function.

    • @colby1398
      @colby1398 3 года назад +3

      @@AxxLAfriku why do you have hundreds of terrible videos on your channel?

  • @Kite403
    @Kite403 3 года назад +10

    I'm really enjoying these minor history lessons, Spif!

  • @Boodikii
    @Boodikii 3 года назад +1

    15 minutes exactly? Aesthetically pleasing.

  • @kees0313
    @kees0313 3 года назад +8

    By far one of my favorite spiff videos on the planet - glad to have you back online so I could watch this :>

  • @el_pepe_1500
    @el_pepe_1500 3 года назад +4

    i love this kind of videos spiff, excelent work, thank you

  • @koopalovetoast2409
    @koopalovetoast2409 3 года назад +2

    Oh I hope there's a second part coming some day! Great video keep up the great work!

  • @chloemccarthy2297
    @chloemccarthy2297 3 года назад +3

    1:09 You know, I am fully willing to believe this is truthful and not just a joke knowing how things are over the Atlantic

  • @TheBigLou13
    @TheBigLou13 3 года назад +11

    Exploiting ≠ Cheating ≠ Hacking
    *Exploiting* is usage of unintended ways within the official boundaries. *Cheating* oversteps these boundaries in intended but hidden ways while *hacking* creates unintended ways outside the boundaries.

  • @bobmanperson599
    @bobmanperson599 3 года назад +9

    I like this video. It doesn't pull any punches when describing how truly unfair to any fair and competitive players these situations are.
    I would like more videos if you find more cheaters on a professional scale.

  • @spike35540
    @spike35540 3 года назад +28

    I feel educated in the history of cheating. Thank you, Sir Spiff.

  • @hunterof2846
    @hunterof2846 3 года назад +5

    Hmm, maybe a sequel to this video on irl cheaters? My man Tigran "Pipi in your pampers" Petrosyan should have a spot

  • @バラタァンズ
    @バラタァンズ 3 года назад +19

    Single Player game: *exists*
    Spiff: "It's free real estate"

  • @alexanderthemandd569
    @alexanderthemandd569 3 года назад +22

    Let’s gooo history time with spiffing Brit! (*Relevant history time)

  • @jrauch6
    @jrauch6 3 года назад +18

    I think my fav cheating moment was forsaken trying to delete his hacks live on stage during a CSGO tournament as admins are trying to check his computer

  • @840fahim
    @840fahim 3 года назад +2

    All hail Lord Spiff of House Yorkshire tea, breaker of games, developers pain, may he forever reign.

  • @afilthy6digit839
    @afilthy6digit839 3 года назад +97

    OH NO HE'S ANGERED THE DREAM STANS RIGHT OFF THE BAT

  • @orpheala
    @orpheala 3 года назад +5

    Very interesting, would love to see you do more of this kind of content!

  • @wakebreaker
    @wakebreaker 2 года назад +1

    “LoL, a game for the saltiest beings on the planet to enjoy.” One of the most accurate descriptions of this game I’ve ever heard. XD

  • @tigrecito48
    @tigrecito48 3 года назад +18

    spiffing brit is amazing and im on the dark side of the coffee

    • @garygordle5146
      @garygordle5146 3 года назад +1

      heresy

    • @tigrecito48
      @tigrecito48 3 года назад +4

      @@garygordle5146 heresy is Ovaltine im more of a heathen than a heretic

    • @callmeriggy
      @callmeriggy 3 года назад

      @@tigrecito48 Ovaltine is fucking gross.

  • @fantaboy1589
    @fantaboy1589 3 года назад +24

    Man he should’ve covered Riolu, he cheated hundreds of trackmania speedruns and didn’t get caught until a couple months ago due to new anti-cheat technology being discovered almost accidentally

  • @Papierflugzeug95
    @Papierflugzeug95 3 года назад +1

    Another good example: Riolu. Cheated in Trackmania speedruns for the better part of a decade.

  • @22yhjjjj
    @22yhjjjj 3 года назад +7

    One time I was playing TF2, and more than half of the enemy team was in a group and cheating.
    I did manage to get a headshot kill on one of them, which I'm still proud of to this day.

    • @teedeegremlin
      @teedeegremlin 3 года назад

      Man, TF2 cheaters these days feel rare when there's bots everywhere.
      I'm still scared at the fact that bots are turning into other classes than Sniper. Imagine if they learned to make a full perfectly-optimized team

    • @MrJoeyWheeler
      @MrJoeyWheeler 3 года назад +1

      @@teedeegremlin You shouldn't be, non-spy bots are incredibly ineffective compared to Sniper. Except maybe Ambi spies, but only at close range these days. Most other guns in the game are shotguns, meaning they have a wide area so the crit-hacks don't do a lot.

    • @teedeegremlin
      @teedeegremlin 3 года назад

      @@MrJoeyWheeler That IS true. For now.

  • @giftedfox4748
    @giftedfox4748 3 года назад +46

    I remember when Dream cheated, a lot of his fans were guarding and protecting him while real speed runners and people not sub to him were going for his head. Good times...

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 2 года назад +1

      Prob didnt cheat knowingly though

    • @AhmedEx1.
      @AhmedEx1. 2 года назад +22

      @@emptyptr9401 yeah, he definitely didn't have a very specific mod to increase the odds for dropping a single item in the game, nothing else
      Definitely accidental

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 2 года назад +1

      @@AhmedEx1. Have you seen the hole explanation of why he had that kind of code installed? Bc while it might be a lie, it would not be an unbelievable one, according to multiple independent sources. Have you seen Karl Jobst's video where he does a >1h deep dive into the hole situation? I know its easier to believe that he "just cheated" but that hole thing is far more complex than that.

    • @tastyneck
      @tastyneck 2 года назад +4

      @@emptyptr9401 It's 'whole', FFS.

    • @emptyptr9401
      @emptyptr9401 2 года назад

      @@tastyneck Always those non-native speakers. Am I right? Fuck those guys...

  • @tapioperala3010
    @tapioperala3010 2 года назад +1

    I'd love to watch a proper series on this topic. Great video!

  • @ReallyRealColby
    @ReallyRealColby 2 года назад +4

    Just watched the 0.5x speed video. Haven't turned it off yet...

  • @Durhn
    @Durhn 3 года назад +20

    Imagine NOT pirating Nintendo games using tinfoil*cough*

  • @leovbernardo
    @leovbernardo 3 года назад

    "Up, Up, Down, Down, Left, Right, Left, Right, B, A"
    Don't worry buddy, those are just dance moves!

  • @scottwatson5851
    @scottwatson5851 3 года назад +17

    I love this gentleman's video's, they are amazing

  • @montypython1042
    @montypython1042 3 года назад +13

    This was actually really fun to watch especially learning that dream was hacking that clears anything up

    • @TrueREAL
      @TrueREAL 2 года назад +5

      Dream not only cheated the mob drops in an official speedrun, but also staged a lot of his stunts in manhunt.

    • @frenchempire9471
      @frenchempire9471 2 года назад

      @@TrueREAL everyone knows the manhunts are staged, but ok

  • @kelly4187
    @kelly4187 2 года назад +1

    I love how professional mathematician Matt Parker even got involved with the Dream debacle, and utterly dismantled his claims. It was super entertaining.

  • @H1KE
    @H1KE 3 года назад +4

    Would love to see more of this style please Spiff!

  • @ojotabe3
    @ojotabe3 2 года назад +3

    The whole Dream situation is just so sad because the guy is actually a fantastically skilled player, but will be forever stained by this

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 года назад +16

      shouldn't have cheated ig

    • @datboy038
      @datboy038 2 года назад +1

      Yes i guess you could say he was “gifted” mentally as well xD

    • @NeoVers3
      @NeoVers3 2 года назад

      A lot of people discredit dream achievement just because he cheated on a speedrun that doesn't have to do in some things he had done, some people go far enough to discredit dream donating to charities by saying "happy to see the cheating money is putting to good use" or something along those lines

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 года назад +1

      @@NeoVers3 doesn't matter, one q cheater always a cheater, on top of that almost all of his newer videos are obviously scripted

    • @incomplet1396
      @incomplet1396 2 года назад

      @@NeoVers3 it does? he cheats in his videos, whats the point of a man hunt of the hunters aren't supposed to kill him?

  • @moritzkorsch9029
    @moritzkorsch9029 2 года назад +1

    Manfred not being convicted of anything is actually mind-blowing.

  • @yoshikagekira3710
    @yoshikagekira3710 2 года назад +14

    Why isn’t my girlfriend on the list

  • @coolconner1029
    @coolconner1029 3 года назад +11

    Hijacked and Terminal are the best map in Call of Duty

  • @Just_Another_Gravemind
    @Just_Another_Gravemind 2 года назад +3

    Oof when you use a drop rate cheat and still lose to four vanilla dudes