6.5-300 Weatherby vs 26 Nosler: The Kings of 6.5mm speed

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  • @biggusbestus551
    @biggusbestus551 3 года назад +9

    Just found your channel. Him like ! I was a western Oregon rancher and hunted with a Weatherby 300 most of those years. I replaced the stolen 300 with an Acumark R/C chambered 6.5-300. It is a tack driver for sure. Guys at the range look at me funny and give me the "over bore" talks. I just smile and tell them I am a beginner that can afford to buy more barrels ...

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      That's a nice rifle! Glad you like the 6.5 300! Thanks for watching!

  • @79brumley
    @79brumley 2 года назад +6

    I had a 26 Nosler and went through a barrel in under 860 rounds! Switched to the 6.5 PRC and I'm averaging around 2k rounds per barrel!

  • @stephenland9361
    @stephenland9361 3 года назад +5

    I have a 6.5mm rifle and I love it. It's a professionally sporterized
    Swedish Mauser M96/38 in 6.5X55mm. Mine was originally made by Husqvarna Vapenfabrik.
    The 6.5 Swedish Mauser cartridge is all you need for deer, moose, elk, caribou, mountain sheep, goats and black bear. (Damn, I love living in British Columbia!)

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      Sounds like an awesome rifle!

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 2 года назад

      Have you hunted moose with it? What bullets did you use? Did you handload beyond CIP standard pressures? Because in standard loading it is just like 6.5 Credmoor.

    • @stephenland9361
      @stephenland9361 2 года назад +2

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 I've taken about half a dozen moose with my Swedish Mauser. I hand load using 6.5mm Nosler Partition bullets. When hand loading, I work up an accurate load for my rifle and stay away from going over suggested max powder loads. A lot of early 1900's bolt action military rifles were never built to stand up to modern, higher pressures available today. It's wise to stick to recommended loads and pressures for such rifles.

    • @PaulVerhoeven2
      @PaulVerhoeven2 2 года назад

      @@stephenland9361 Nosler Partition 140gr I presume? Which loads do you use?

    • @stephenland9361
      @stephenland9361 2 года назад

      @@PaulVerhoeven2 Yes, I use the 140 gr. 6.5mm Nosler Partitions. A good load for my rifle may not be a good (accurate) load in you rifle. So I never give out my powder type and weight. There are plenty of reloading manuals to consult to get started. I start in the middle of a suggested powder's load data and load up and down by half a grain, five cartridges each. Whatever load seems most accurate I tweak by going up and down by a tenth of a grain. Best five shot group wins.

  • @AKLumps907
    @AKLumps907 3 года назад +13

    I disagree with the “it’s not big enough to kill a elk” in regards to the 6.5 comment. I’ve killed multiple moose (bigger than a elk) with a 264 win mag at various distances. From 50-200 yards. And multiple brown bears with the same 264 Win Mag.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +3

      I should have clarified on what 6.5 cartridges could kill the bigger game. I completely agree with you that the 264 Win mag can take down big game. I was more referring to the 6.5 Creedmoor. Thanks for watching!

    • @AKLumps907
      @AKLumps907 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I’m for anything 6.5 for anything in north ‘Murcia.

    • @bustabass9025
      @bustabass9025 2 года назад +2

      Actually any caliber is, "...big enough to kill an elk.", and most have. Unfortunately, it's not the size of the bullet that kills the elk, moose, etc. Rather, it is more dependent upon shot distance, and where the shooter places the bullet, that determines how the field to freezer transformation takes place. That can be anything from instant kill, tracking for hours, or never recovering the animal at all...ask me how I know. 🤔
      Having said that, and knowing that the average Joe DeerTag is probably a lot like me; prone to a sudden attack of rack fever, daydreaming about what I'm going to have for dinner after sundown, or just mostly detached after not seeing a shooter in three days...when the biggest bull you've ever seen happens up out of nowhere.
      In which case, conventional wisdom says you probably want to get that hurried shot off, with a more forgiving cartridge, (previous factors condidered of course) before he decides to take off. Something a little bit bigger than a 6.5/264 cal/dia would certainly get my vote.

    • @AKLumps907
      @AKLumps907 2 года назад +1

      @@bustabass9025 it’s all about shot placement. I agree with that cringy adage. 6.5mm does anything on North Amurika with less recoil. The comment is so people who don’t know can know.
      At the end of the day if you’re comfortable with a shoulder busting 30 caliber of any flavor then that’s what you carry. As long as you can take a aminal humanely as possible.

    • @bustabass9025
      @bustabass9025 2 года назад

      @@AKLumps907
      Actually, the only thing "cringy" about the "adage", is whether any of the factors mentioned are a bigger concern than caliber, when the shot, whatever that might be, presents itself. Many times they are; either in combination, or single fold. Oh, and did I mention bullet composition? Throw that one in there too.
      I've shot and hunted with high velocity rifles and cartridges bigger than 6.5 caliber in general (and the Creedmo' specifically) for better than fifty years. Trust me. They can be more forgiving. Not saying that you or anyone else for that matter should, or needs to. Incidentally, my shoulder is just fine thank you. 😉

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 8 месяцев назад +1

    I got some 156 grain bergers and some 127 grain barnes for my 6.5-300. I will do a group video in the spring.

  • @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage
    @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage 3 года назад +4

    A discussion on "barrel burner cartridges" would be a great video! I'm a fan of belted magnums. But I'm at a loss on deciding what to shoot and what to leave in the rack.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +2

      As a hunter I'm not sure you really have to worry about burning your barrel. Unless you also use it as a target gun. Even if your barrel only lasts like 800 shots.... That will still last you years and years of hunting. What cartridges are you trying to decide to hunt with?

    • @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage
      @Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I just enjoy the roar of belted magnums. I used to take my mod 70 Winchester, 300 Win Mag, into the everglades, out on the canals a couple times a month, year round. 1 to 2 boxes every time I went. I'd let them fly as fast as I could get the muzzle on target and work the bolt. Five as fast as I could, then a cool down period while shooting revolver/pistols. 458 Win Mag is a hoot to shoot!

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +1

      @@Bourbon-Canted-Ky-Windage 300 Win mag is great! I almost bought one back in March, but found my 300 Weatherby for a really good deal

    • @paulsoutbackgardenaustrali7674
      @paulsoutbackgardenaustrali7674 3 года назад +4

      Belted/unbelted don't mean shit bro..😂😎😎🇦🇺💯

    • @MarktheSharkC
      @MarktheSharkC 9 месяцев назад

      The problem is, that they don’t have a place in the Reloading Books for him to read. That’s why we won’t have a show on barrel burning!

  • @reelezoutdoors9586
    @reelezoutdoors9586 2 года назад +1

    Gotta save up for one of these, really like the look of the weatherby vangaurd sporter.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  2 года назад +2

      Weatherby makes a great rifle, you won't be disappointed.

  • @Weatherby406
    @Weatherby406 3 года назад +5

    That 127 Lrx in the 6.5-300 is lightning in a bottle...I didn’t buy it to save powder and barrels. Same reason you don’t buy a corvette to save gas and tires. Performance

  • @eatmagnumrevolver3048
    @eatmagnumrevolver3048 2 года назад +2

    If you are looking for some "vast array" of powder choices and load data for the WHBY 6.5 - 300 (and similar overbore calibers and cartridge designs) you are likely not going to find much more due to the fact that these super slow magnum rifle and .50 BMG powder speed "burn rate" propellants are about the only powders "applicable" with these "overbore" calibers.
    The great news is all the powders listed by Barnes and Weatherby work excellently with these bullet weight ranges.
    Like all handloading, the "search" is finding the bullet/primer/powder combination YOUR gun likes.....that's the real medicine here.
    Good Luck

  • @Cool-hand-hunting
    @Cool-hand-hunting 3 года назад +1

    You might want to check a bit lower on the Weatherby ammunition page on the 6.5-300 Wby... it’s got Load data for it for a bunch of projectiles and in a 26” barrel. It’ll show you the true potential of the cartridge with a lot of good info. Just scroll down a bit more and you’ll see the link. Gives a bit more of a realistic velocity idea if you’re “Reloading Weatherby”

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      Thanks, I missed that. I added the reloading link in the description.

  • @robertwolfe2971
    @robertwolfe2971 3 года назад +2

    Pretty good considering the weatherby has a 24 inch barrel when it should have a 26

  • @ingelri2
    @ingelri2 Год назад +1

    6.5-300 Weatherby......rifles available under $600......26 Nosler....rifles just under $2k plus. Most regular people will choose the Weatherby.

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 3 года назад +2

    I do like that 6.5 300!

  • @KevinMSmith-zf7nv
    @KevinMSmith-zf7nv 2 года назад +1

    Why are they better than the 264 Winchester Mag? I really don’t get it.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  2 года назад +2

      Better is pretty subjective. They are both faster, flatter shooting than the 264 Win mag. But barrel life is shorter

  • @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655
    @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655 2 года назад

    The 6.5x300 doesn't even come alive as a cartridge until you run it in a 30" barrel and a slow burning powder like US869. My max load caps 3800 FPS with the 127 LRX. I'd really like to know what it would do out of a 32" barrel. Lightning in a bottle is correct.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  2 года назад +1

      Wow, I figured it could be faster with a longer barrel. That's crazy velocity!

    • @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655
      @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655 2 года назад +1

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I wish RUclips allowed post pictures, I'd send ya over the string chart of 120, 130s and 140s. 140s are cooking along at 3650.

    • @Imasaint22
      @Imasaint22 2 года назад

      Which powder for that 140 at 3650 load ?

    • @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655
      @a.j.downeyrestorationscrea1655 2 года назад +1

      @@Imasaint22 Everything I've done with it has been with US869 out of a custom 30" carbon6 barrel.

  • @UngulateGuardian797
    @UngulateGuardian797 3 года назад +2

    Can you do a 7 Weatherby Mag vs. a 28 Nosler next?

  • @jamespmullin21753
    @jamespmullin21753 Год назад

    If you spray a bullet with teflon would it help barrel life?

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад

      Not sure...

    • @jackamelung8705
      @jackamelung8705 10 месяцев назад

      No. one of the most knowledgable barrel makers claimed it was not the bullet, not totally powder volume, but it was the venturi angle. He claimed the powder comes out at an angle and hits the barrel riflings and with steeper angle and volume of powder the powder acts like sand paper that is on fire. He also said it is why straight wall cartridges no matter what the volume don't suffer near as much with burning out the throat

  • @markpeever496
    @markpeever496 3 года назад

    Maybe you could do one on .338-378 WBY? I haven’t been able to find a lot of press on it.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +2

      I will have to, It's also the King of speed for 338 caliber.

  • @brianklamer3328
    @brianklamer3328 3 года назад

    Seems to me with that much case capacity Nosler should have increased the twist to 1-7.5 and throat the cartridge for the heaviest 6.5 bullets.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      Both are over bore. I think they would benefit with a longer barrel

    • @dundonrl
      @dundonrl Год назад +1

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I put a 28" bbl on my Remington 700 in 375 RUM. Getting 3200 fps out of her with 260 gr Accubonds, so these monsters could definitely use longer barrels.

  • @FernandoPerez-wr1qq
    @FernandoPerez-wr1qq 3 года назад +1

    The Roy favourite is my favourite...257.

  • @markmaynard3884
    @markmaynard3884 3 года назад +1

    Those sure are fast, but how will the bullets hold up to a within 100 yard shot? The A-frame is the only one I could see not exploding into a million pieces.

  • @Tradmark454
    @Tradmark454 2 года назад

    The 6.5 300 with the lrx/scirocco and the aframe will down any elk that walk handily. Nothing borderline whatsoever.

  • @ironDsteele
    @ironDsteele 3 года назад

    I reloaded ONE 6.5 x 505 Gibbs cartridge for a laugh and display item; it's the fastest!

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      What FPS are you getting? That sounds crazy haha

    • @ironDsteele
      @ironDsteele 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby I have no such rifle and as far as I know, one doesn't exist. The cartridge is merely a dud conversation peice I made by repeatedly necking down a .505 case..but I think the ctac and enablers are based on the .505 if I'm not mistaken?

    • @corymcdowell191
      @corymcdowell191 3 года назад

      @@ironDsteele what do you call it? 6.5 Eargespliten Loudenboomer

  • @jackdundon2261
    @jackdundon2261 Год назад +2

    Figure 2000-2500 rounds before the barrel is gone.
    If you buy a Ferrari, you don't buy it for a "sit in traffic" (commuter) car.
    If you want to go fast, buy, it, have fun, life is short. If you want a gun to last, go buy a 30-06. CHEEP, and good enough.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад

      I've heard barrel life is much shorter than that. But I agree with you!

    • @jackdundon2261
      @jackdundon2261 Год назад

      @Reloading Weatherby I read, two guys have 2000 rounds out of their nosler, but, one guy is coming up on 2500, and starting to lose accuracy. -- I am sure they let it cool between shots. I am sure you could burn one out in 300 rounds in 1 day too if you tried.

  • @claytonirlbeck8668
    @claytonirlbeck8668 Месяц назад

    Reloading to weatherby book stats my 6.5-300 with 140gr bergers screams at 3,450fps average. 88.3gr of US869

  • @ChronicalsofAl
    @ChronicalsofAl 2 месяца назад

    Check out the Berger 156

  • @MarktheSharkC
    @MarktheSharkC 9 месяцев назад +1

    Another great video of reloading books! lol!

  • @thewoodboss5647
    @thewoodboss5647 3 года назад

    What about 6.5 RPM Weatherby Elk cartridge or not?

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      6.5 Weatherby RPM can definitely take an elk. It will shoot a 140 grain bullet almost 3100 FPS. With that being said I would still prefer a bigger caliber for elk hunting.

  • @ckiefner715
    @ckiefner715 3 года назад

    I think the 140 grain Accubond fps is off. Should be around 3400 fps.

    • @ckiefner715
      @ckiefner715 3 года назад

      For the 6.5-300

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      I took it straight from the Weatherby site. But if you hand load the accubond you can get 3400 FPS

  • @shannonnunn
    @shannonnunn 3 года назад

    I am pushing a 195 grain berger in a 7mm weatherby wildcat at 2950... The case capacity is at 91 grain h20 compared to 99 grains in either case you were comparing...
    The energy I am producing is much higher and retains it's energy and velocity much better the longer the distance extends... It has over 1500 ft lbs at 1,000 yards... A BC 1 of .755
    You will burn those barrels out before you find a good load...
    Those are shit cartridges!!
    Roy made awesome magnum cases with so much volume when 4350 was the slowest powder you could find so a long throat and case was the best way to hot rod a rifle... He was an innovator and a brilliant man. The kids that took over his business pale in comparison to him in innovation and ingenuity. The 6.5/300 is a testament to that... The family has created some new lightweight rifles after following market trends but they have yet to lead the market in innovation. I was kicked off their forum years ago, for stating as much. Lol
    Roy will always be a hero of mine, and I still love weatherby rifles. They have the best actions you can get!!

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      What case are you using for your 7mm wildcat? Is it the 300 WBY case? I think Adam Weatherby is interested in innovation. Weatherby should be revealing a new cartridge soon. I guess we will see how innovative it is.

    • @shannonnunn
      @shannonnunn 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby no it is the 7mm weatherby blown out with a 35 degree shoulder...

    • @joshlower1
      @joshlower1 2 года назад +1

      well why dont you get your wonder cartridge saami speced so all they rest of us can experience what constitutes not a "shit cartridge" in your own words.

    • @joshlower1
      @joshlower1 2 года назад +1

      @@shannonnunn you do know that the 7mm wby mag does use a .300 wby mag case yes?

  • @gunman-6646
    @gunman-6646 3 года назад

    Love it!

  • @bradhartmeister2717
    @bradhartmeister2717 2 года назад

    They are almost identical..... closer than the 308 vs 30-06 argument.....

    • @Imasaint22
      @Imasaint22 2 года назад

      Or the 7 mag 280 AI, 300 win 300 wsm,

  • @kerrypurcell6022
    @kerrypurcell6022 3 года назад

    now with the new heavy 270 bullets, the 6.5s will collect dust on the shelves,,,,,a heavy 25 caliber cartridge is needed using the same bullet weights as the 6.5s,,,, i am a 6.5 fan,, i have six rifles chambered for 6.5 cartridges,,,,,but the writing is on the wall,

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      I would love for the 270 caliber to get more popular

    • @14goldmedals
      @14goldmedals 3 года назад +2

      Reloading Weatherby I'm a happy 300RUM user in Northern Alberta where animals have large bodies compared to southern animals of the same species. If I had to switch to a 270Wby Mag I would be just fine with that. Weatherby's 257, 270, and 340 magnums are incredible rounds. My "big boy" in my collection is a gorgeous left handed Mark V 378 Wby Mag if you want to talk about over kill! Blows the doors off the 375 H&H.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +1

      @@14goldmedals 300 RUM is great! That 378 Weatherby sounds like a monster, I would love to shoot one someday. Thanks for watching!

    • @14goldmedals
      @14goldmedals 3 года назад

      Reloading Weatherby think about a 300 grain bullet at 3000 fps. My 338 Lapua can’t quite hit 3000 fps with a 300 grain OTM bullet but it has a muzzle brake and a heavy long barrel. The Weatherby is a hunting profile barrel and is about 10 lbs with the scope. The recoil is punishing.

    • @sancharino4672
      @sancharino4672 2 года назад +1

      I am in the process of bulding a 257 -6.5rpm. Improved. With a 7.5 twist to shoot the new bergers and some monos. Should easily get 3300 with 133. With 90-100 grain monos.(plenty for deer) I am expecting 3800 fps plus

  • @mrthebeaudry
    @mrthebeaudry 3 года назад

    Good info 👍🏽

  • @kirkmartin2223
    @kirkmartin2223 3 года назад

    Nice video 👍👍

  • @brettmakoviney7120
    @brettmakoviney7120 7 месяцев назад

    Can bullets even make 4000 fps and more before disintegrating 🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @AKLumps907
    @AKLumps907 3 года назад

    I also know of multiple moose taken at out to 300 yards with 6.5 creedmore. And not dumping bullets in it. 1-3 shots. (A child shooting it)

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад +1

      I know the 6.5 Creedmoor can kill big game.... but it's not my first choice

    • @AKLumps907
      @AKLumps907 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby but that’s not what you said. You said, “it’s not big enough,”

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      @@AKLumps907 I still stand by that. You can kill a moose and elk with a 243 Win.... doesn't mean you should. I think the 6.5 Creedmoor is great for target shooting and for deer. It's just my opinion that you shouldn't use it on bigger game like elk and moose.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  3 года назад

      What I actually said was that you should stay away from using the slower 6.5 cartridges on elk. I never said it couldn't kill them.

    • @AKLumps907
      @AKLumps907 3 года назад

      @@ReloadingWeatherby this is the internet. When the average anyone hears, “you shouldn’t,” what they hear is, “don’t,”
      By the way I haven’t watched this in quite some time soo I don’t remember if you’re biased towards 30 caliber like everyone who talks about 6.5 like they use the caliber.

  • @sancharino4672
    @sancharino4672 2 года назад

    Well i will agree. But there are dozens of older cartridges that you can say the same about. 7 mauser, 30-96, 308. While not as old 7mm-08. 260. The list goes on and on and on. These boomers are just that. Boomers. There for guys that either just love rifles. And have lots of them. Or for the guy that reads magazines and really doesnt know much. Or someone who wants the flattest shooting thing he can get. For max point blank range performance. I am if the opinion i love them all. But really have no use for something that burns 90 grains of powder.

  • @plowmaster1206
    @plowmaster1206 3 года назад

    Can't hear anything

  • @Hunting_Grt_whiteNorth
    @Hunting_Grt_whiteNorth Год назад

    So 🙏 disregard this comment sent in error 😳.

    • @ReloadingWeatherby
      @ReloadingWeatherby  Год назад

      Great ideas... however I don't work for Weatherby. I doubt Adam will see this message