6 5 x 300 Wby
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- Randy talks about the origins of the 6.5x.300 Wby. This includes those early on, including Mary Louise DiVito, Howard Wolfe, the 6.5x300 WWH or Weatherby Wright Hoyer cartridge and others. Are they finicky, as some have reported? Are there limitations.
A bit of history on the 6.5 x 300 Wby.
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I have zero complaints about my 6.5-300. Laser beam.
Thank You Cathy for bringing us this content.
From Cathy: Awww, Thanks!
Dragsters are a lot of fun, rebuilding the engine is just part of the game.
Your velocity argument is spot on. My lowly, little 6.5 Grendels are easy to develop loads across a variety of bullets and powders. This is across several guns, both gas and bolt. That said, slinging bullets fast is still fun.
Thank you for your videos.
Thank you Randy. You are a great source of info for rifle, cartridge, and how bullets behave for both. I have a friend that I loaded for in 6.5-300 and you are absolutely right. It's a very finicky little demon. We finally settled on Retumbo and monolithic bullets and I loaded 340 rounds for him. I'll tell you, he was wise to order four barrels. This round is very destructive to barrels.
Thank you for all the wonderful content! One of the other people who watched this video asked about the 35 Whelen. Yes, please share with us all the knowledge you can about this great cartridge. Thanks!!
6.5-300 is a barrel burner is like saying you drive a Lamborghini for fuel economy
Spot on ! I have a 6.5-300wby and it was very finiky,it did not like 140gr bullets with US 869,and settled with 129gr interbonds with sub 1/2in groups!Took a Whitetail buck at 327yds with it this past season and had entry on point of left shoulder and exit just behind right shoulder,he made it about 10yds and expired! Keep up the good work Randy,enjoy you videos!
Funny mine only likes 140 grain bullets swift.. hates the 127lrx.
@@Weatherby406and mine likes everything I’ve shot in it haha! 140 gr Berger VLD and is money with the 127 LRX
Just ordered my 6.5x300 bee and should have it in my hands within a week. Ordered 5 boxes of 6.5x300 bee ammo. Its gonna be a hammer.
Also bought 500 of the 153.5 berger hybrids. Gonna be a lazer. 1-8 twist too. Perfect for this cartridge
Still love my 6.5-300wby.. been extremely accurate for me and very light recoil with the muzzle break. Barnes 127gr lrx bullets are tac drivers, and no problem dropping deer bear pigs and elk.
I have a Vanguard First Lite and with Hendershot's custom ammo Hornady 143 ELDX's it shoots under 3/4 inch at 100, for such a thin fluted barrel I thing that's pretty good.
There's 15min of my life I'll never get back. I have a Vanguard that eats 156 bergers at 750yds and then asks for more and it's a 1 in 8" twist
Randy, I always enjoy your videos and after nearly 50 years of reloading I’m still learning something new from your videos. I just saw your 6.5-300 video this morning and I’ve been away away from the computer for a few months due to health issues and trying to prepare for a Dall Sheep hunt in September. This all relates to the 6.5-300 because this is what I have chosen for my sheep hunt after my 280 Ackleys just seemed to loose their edge, at least in my hands. I have two 6.5-300’s, one with a steel action and one in Titanium which I bought secondly to save on weight and in fear that I would have the steel action rifle shot out before my trip. My load in the steel action is Peterson Brass, 215M Primer, 83.5gr N570 powder with a 140gr Accubond. Accuracy is in the 1/2 to 3/4 inch range with velocity right at 3500. As you stated in our video I am now at around 300 rounds through this rifle and the throat of this rifle looks like the hide of an alligator for about 3 inches of the throat. For now it is still has accuracy but I know its days are numbered so its sighted in for 1 inch high at 100 and 200 and hits about 3 low at 300 and I will only shoot it for hunting to save whatever accuracy it has left. The Titanium actioned rifle never had quite the same accuracy as the steel version but will shoot consistently just around an inch and since it is 3/4 a pound lighter (6lbs 12 oz) than the steel version with only about 100 rounds through it I plan on using it for my sheep trip if I’m physically able to make the trip. The load for this rifle is similar except I seem to develop pressure earlier in this rifle and I’m using 83.0 of N570 with everything else the same. What has me a bit bothered is how these groups tend to open up at 300 yards measuring 4 or maybe 5 inches. I’m sure thats still more than adequate for sheep and goats at 300 yards because that is my self imposed limit; I won’t shoot farther than 300 yards at a game animal. By the way, I also tried many other powders including 869, LRT, N568 and H1000. N568 and H1000 were in the same ball park accuracy wise as N570 but velocity was around 3250 instead of 3500. So far the throat if the Titanium actioned rifle looks OK, maybe a little bit of haze so I’m trying to baby it. I also just watched your primer video before the 6.5-300 video and maybe a primer change would tighten up the groups a bit. I do have some Rem 9 and 1/2 M’s but no Winch LRP. Do you have any thought on N570 or anything I stated here about my load. By the way both rifles have Weatherby’s light contour which I think is a #2 so maybe I’m expecting too much.
I'll just stick with my handloaded 257 Weatherby. I've named it Roy. I've never missed anything with it and can see that bullet hit them in the scope, and its over with. It hits em like a bolt of lightning.
I'm also interested in a 257 or the 340
i’m with you love my .257 for eastern white tails
Am loading for my friends 6.5x 300 WBY using 84 gr of WC 860 with Fed 215 and a 140 Sierra tipped game king And getting 3400 fps . Grouping 1.5 in at 200 yds ! Thanks for sharing your knowledge !……..
Randy on the subject of the muzzle pressure you are describing here in the bigger case capacity cartridges being detrimental to accuracy does longer barrels in those cartridges help with that issue........ Thanks for your time
I would love to know Randy's opinion on the 35 Whelen. Particularly for a hunter in the Appalachian mountains that rarely sees a shot beyond 150 yards. Love all of your videos. I can't thank you enough for the hours of enjoyment your content has given me.
@Gomer Pile beyond cool. A living man that knew Townsend Whelen and P. O. Ackley both should be considered a national treasure.
The 35 Whelen is way more than you need here in the Appalachians . A35 Remington will wack deer bear and in Texas hogs with ease.
@@wickedtrutharms57 I agree. I just just like the cartridge and how easy it is to reload for. Plus, it's a heritage thing. My great uncle used and still uses it to this day for black bear.
@wickedtrutharms57 is it possible for something to be too dead?
@Josh Horn possibly. But I've not seen it so far if shot placement is good.
Thank you Sir for posting your videos. I appreciate your putting your expertise on video. You have a new subscriber.
Thinking about getting one of these eventually
I’d like to see that. It would make for some great videos. Good to see you.
@Sonny Gunz yeah it's years down the line for sure. No point as he said with the 6.5 prc being a much better balanced cartridge.
An honest comparison of 6.5 PRC, .264 WinMag and 6.5-300 Weatherby would be nice to see.
@@robertneal4112 yeah I'd do it if I could borrow the guns
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Thanks for watching and God bless!
6.5-300 roys original 264 wby mag but never made it to the market back then. I own one and its amazing rifle and cartridge.
Glad that MR weatherby has it figured it out on the 6.5x300 and how to get it right.😂
Also Berger 153.5's gr are great in this cartridge. I would Never shoot a 120 to 140 gr bullets in this cartridge. What a waist that would be. Lots of people enjoying this amazing cartridge. ❤
Awesome Randy!
Thanks for your post. I have been fortunate enough to know Howard Wolfe 30x378, Mary Louise Devito 7x300, Frank Weber6.5x300 both world record holders. I also have an Al Hoyer built 6.5x300 with John Unertl 15x scope.
Own one and it’s a laser but I also own the 7mm weatherby. Would love to hear a honest review on it. No one covers it or talks about it. Mine shoots extremely well. Very fond of it.
I bought a weatherby in 6.5-300. very finicky is right! Honest accuracy is about 1.75.....find myself never using is because of that...great video!
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Excellent video. Thank you
I’m sorry but I have to disagree with this video. I have a 6.5x300 weatherby and have had tremendous success with it. I’m a big time believer in the 7mm club and own most of them, but this 6.5x300 weatherby is awesome. I’m using the 127 gr Barnes LRX. So far the longest shot was 571 yards and shortest was 37 yards and all were one and done. 98%DRT’s with one going 37 feet. Extremely easy to tune with Retumbo powder. 1/8 twist rate. I mostly agree with your views but this one I’m gonna have to call BS!! Sorry.
What is wrong with using the .264 win mag?
Nothing get yourself 2 of them or more.
According to the nosler reloading manual the 264 would be the original 6.5 . Now we got the 6.5 Creedmoor and a whole Lotta new cartridges. Nothing is new under the sun. Just more new gimmicks and marketing. I have a old 264. Love it.
The biggest problem was the original 264 was the barrel twists. They were too slow, 1-9 twist isn’t enough. Needs to be a 1-8
@@wickedtrutharms57 i do believe that the 6.5 swede has the honor of being the original 6.5. It was created in the very early 1890’s.
@@Dave-cf2ng that’s odd, I have zero issues with a 9 twist in my 264 Winchester.
Randy I agree with 100% probably 98% of the time! Your experience while vastly larger numbers for your experience as a professional tracks with my experience as a hunter and competitive shooter! Smart is smart, practical is practical, common sense is not common, and math and engineering do not lie unless a liar is trying to sell you something. Too many internet experts on various internet forums have skin in the game and are out to sell people on what it is they have to sell. The truth is not in them! It is an up hill fight all the way. I am glad you are who you are and that you speak the truth! God Bless!
Thanks @buckaroobonsai555.
This is Cathy, the Real Gunsmith's Wife with a request. On the 6.5 x .300 Wby video you gave a great response to @piercer3715 but it is held for review. The reason is for the links shared. I had to hold and have all comments with links removed, after some very innocuous and "valid" looking links that some twerps posted in comments, actually led to porn sites. Therefore, no links are permitted. You can edit your reply, if you would, please, to mention the sites, even by name, but not with the .com etc.
Thanks for taking the time to not only watch but to respond. We truly appreciate it!
I have one in a mark v weather mark it shoots awesome with scirroco 2
Mr. Selby i loved the video on 6.5x300 Weatherby .And I would like to hear your thoughts on a very often over looked but never forgotten .264 Winchester Magnum loaded properly. I'm going to build one any information would be greatly appreciated as always thank you for the awesome content God bless and take care sir.
Thanks for watching. The .264 must be throated for a 140 seated length of neck. H4831, RL 25, RL 22 and WLR primer. Good shooting.
Sir I do appreciate you and your time and thank very much for your advice I have Nosler brass Federal magnum primers the powders you mentioned and IMR 7828sc H1000 for bullets I have Nosler 142 grain Accubond and Partition 140 grain I'm hoping to be finished with it some time soon and have ready for deer next season Lord willing. Mr. Selby thank again and look forward to you videos keep up the great work Sir.
What happened to the 7WSM? I miss the 7 WSM. I had one, and RL19 powder and 150, 162 grn bullets worked great, and had 2000ish round barrel life.
It was dicontinued, like most flash in the pan rounds that come out, and more will be as time goes on.
Thanks for watching.
Great round,have one and love it!
Get a Sherman SS or Max if you liked the 7 wsm.
Good brass always available
Love mine saving the barrel maybe 120 rounds in it. Love the fact it loves 140grain partitions 140 ttsx barnes and 140 VLD Bergers and I don’t have to change zero
Dont have one yet but every animal shot by a Weatherby that I’ve seen acts like it gets hit by lightning
I have one and I can back that up! 3 whitetail, a black bear, and a mountain goat down beautifully
I suppose 6.5 X 300 wby would be a good candidate for copper solid bullets.
I have a 6.5-300 and I recently purchased a neat custom built Flaigs Mauser 264 win mag I shot the 264 and love the thing it’s more pleasant to shoot than the 6.5-300 and cheaper too, I’m actually not really liking the 6.5-300 much it’s not that pleasant to shoot mine is a vanguard badlands model but it’s just got tremendous muzzle blast
I love shooting in Pa. Some of my funniest matches were there!
I couldn’t agree with you more Randy. I think the 7-300 is a much better cartridge than the 6.5-300; and I was surprised that Weatherby didn’t go that way. I’d love to get a good deal on a shot out 6.5-300 and put a 27’ 1 in 9 Heart barrel on it chambered for the 7-300. It just make so much sense to go that way.
Just get a 28 nosler
@@jmgates09yes the 28 is a awesome caliber I'd love to own one
@@bradkiewiet4268 price cases for any Nosler calibers before buying. The calibers are very good but not economical for loading
@@davidsignor7931 The price of the cartridge means nothing when you have a 6 x 6 Bull Elk in the crosshairs !…….
@thomasdaum1927 that's not the only cartridge to ever kill a Elk
Someone commented he has a 257 Weatherby named Roy, well the man that designed that Weatherby himself tried that cartridge on elk,when he could not track his wounded elk,he never picked up a 257 Weatherby again.
I enjoy your videos a lot.
I am trying to decide on a 6.5
I’m torn between the 6.5 RPM. And the 6.5 PRC. I here the PRC is hard to reload for due to the very tight tolerances. So resizing the case is difficult.
I like the performance of the RPM. But weatherby doesn’t build a sub MOA rifle.
They build a MOA rifle.
Have you had much experience with the 6.5 PRC
Thank you for your time.
Cheers
Not to be a jerk, but by the Real Gun Smiths logic, a 220 swift is too fast, overbore and finicky, or the 22-250… I didn’t realize a 264 caliber projectile was maxed out at 140 grain projectile. You can’t over stabilize a projectile.
It's not so much over stabilization it is too high of a rotational speed for the composition of the bullet. I have seen it happen several times on a 22-250 and on a 204 ruger.
@@joshuawooledge6945 so using a hunting bullet in a high twist meant for a high BC, pretty much like the gunsmith complained about?
@piercer3715 not all hunting bullets. It just depends on how they are constructed and what they are constructed of.
You do not think the 130gr Scirroco would be adequate medium game bullet at appropriate ranges?
I d say it definitely is adequate
This awesome man made me keep my 222 and never go 223 :)
👍- 100% spot on for "high speed" cartridges. While I loved the 220 Swift when I had one, I discovered that my friend's 22-250 was accurate for many more rounds. Just a "little bit slower" resulted in longer accuracy life for the rifle. And I've heard about "disintegrating bullets" before. Faster twist speed REQUIRES tougher bullets.
Id love to see the 150 accubond tested
why does a 140 gr going 2700 fps make a good elk cartridge people shoot it very accurately because it dosent kick being a excellent shot trumps almost all the factors
Love my 300 Weatherby Magnum, they can remove that rifle from hands when I am DEAD…….. Mine shoots Weatherby factory rounds to .40 of an inch at 100 yards……Awesome……
Good info, Sir. I was thinking of getting a 6.5-300 Wty for a couple months now. I had kinda the same thoughts as yours. That its just to fast if using soft-point projectile.
My second choice in the .264 family is the 6.5 PRC. It runs a slower than the 6.5-300 Wty but a lil quicker than the 6.5CM. What are your thoughts on the 6.5 PRC on Whitetails/Hogs? And what bullet selection would you use on deer/hogs at ranges of 100yds inward, basically woods hunting?
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
What’s your opinion on the.277x300 wby.
I shoot a 270x300 Wby. Much better than the 6.5x300. It is a top performer with 140-160 gr, 10" twist; 165-175 with 9" twist.
Thanks for watching.
Absolutely fascinating as always Randy, I learn something new and useful every time I watch you, just out of interest, do you have a favourite power for the .25-06? Thanks for all you do, all the best Sir.
Thank you! IMR 7828, Retumbo. See what your particular rifle likes the best.
Thanks for watching.
I would like your take.On the 6.5 weatherby necked down to shoot the 130 grain hunting bullets.the one without the belt Roy's grandson Adam built.Howa hs precision stalk.
Burning a barrel in this cartridge is alot due to folks chasing consistent velocities cuz that is a hick up in that cartridge is getting consistent velocities out of it
270 wby with faster twist barrel would have been better to me
Let me guess…all it is, is a necked down 300 WBY…brilliant
Those overbore rounds need loong barrels. 28-30”. Makes no sense in 24-26” hunting lengths
If 7mm was as popular as the 6.5 right now Weatherby marketing would say, make a 7mmx300 Weatherby.
Howdy sir, if your looking for a video idea could you discuss how the Berger bullets are different and what ones are best. I’m personally interested in the 140 Grain 277 Caliber Classic Hunter. I shoot a 270 Winchester short magnum thanks.
I have talked on this in several videos and an upcoming one touches on it again. Berger are thin jacketed bullets blowing up, wounding game. Use 140 gr Barnes TSX BT, 140 gr Nosler AB, 140 Nosler Partition, real game bullets.
Thanks for watching.
Perfect antelope rd
Barrel metallurgy and manufacturing processes are superior today.
Is there a really over bore 6.5? Wonder what a 6.5- 378 could do?
Do i want one no but just curious lol
Any barrel can be over bore.
Can "Muzzle pressure" be mitigated with slower twist rate and a longer barrel?
Not really. Velocity and pressure dictate muzzle pressure, as well as bore size and case volume.
Thanks for watching.
That is fast and the barrel will burnout just as fast.
Wonder how a 7mm-378 Weatherby mag would do?
Too large. The 7x300 Wby is the best.
Thanks for watching.
What is the current fastest production 7mm? I’ve had great results using 160 and 175’s in my 7STW. I’ve had 140’s fragment close range.
I love mine 9x gr of us869 under 130gr Sierra tmk. Is a killing machine
270-300 weatherby ?
Exactly what are you asking. Use a full sentence, please, so I know what information you want @702havingfun
Isn’t a 7 mm x 300 a 7 mm Weatherby?
No. It is a .300 Wby necked to 7mm.
Thanks for watching.
Weatherby and glock. The 2 greatest inventions in the history of the world!! better then electricity and the wheel!!
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Earl Etter
What load 270 remg 700 24in. Barrel
huh?
Buy a reloading manual and try some loads for your self. No such thing as a universal load each rifle and barrel will like a different load. Asking someone like Randy a question like this is just lazy and rude!
Well, thank you @buckaroobonsi555! And thanks for watching. ;)
@buckaroobonsi555 😂😂 wow! Stop being a crybaby azz poosie!
Yah I hear nothing but complaints from Weatherby 6.5x300 owners on bullets disintegrating..../sarcasm off. C'mon, another Randy pisses on new rifle videos.
In 1963 Randy was probably complaining that the 300 Winchester Magnum had to short of a neck, and would never kill Elk like weatherby cartridge, oh....and that new Winchester model 70 won't catch on either. Jesus, this guy can't help himself.
I know the subject was the 6.5x 300, but I have a question off topic. I figured since you’ve been in the game for a while you’d be the guy to ask. It’s about the Drummond line of rounds based on Weatherby brass. Bodies were blown out as much as possible. Necks were short and the shoulder was an almost flat 60 degrees. I was looking for information on them or anybody shooting one. I’d just like a couple cases for my collection. I know the originated in Pennsylvania. Any info would be appreciated. Thank you.