257 Weatherby Bullet Review - Accubond, TTSX, TSX, and Ballistic Tip
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Real world review of how these bullets perform on deer sized game. I've used all but the ballistic tip successfully on whitetails, mule deer, antelope, and even a large black bear at ranges from 6 to 460 yards (in the video I explain why I have not used the ballistic tip on deer). From the thick woods of Pennsylvania, the beanfields of North Carolina, the badlands and prairie of Montana and Wyoming, and even northern Alberta, you should have no fear using the 257 and its lightning fast, small bullets for your hunts.
Bullets discussed include:
110 grain Nosler Accubond
115 grain Nosler Ballistic Tip
100 grain Barnes TSX
100 grain Barnes TTSX
All of these bullets will kill deer, but they have some huge performance differences that may impact the success of your hunt. Hopefully this helps you make an informed decision.
Excellent real world experience, the best kind of video, thanks for doing this video, I use Barnes in all my rifles, no wounded animals.
Watched my Dad shoot a mule deer buck at 275 yards with his 257 Wby and 110 Accubond, he took a facing on shot with very slight angle. Entered the chest just midway between shoulder and centerline of the neck, exited the opposite rear flank. I have never seen a deer act so erratic after the shot. He made a wild 30 yard attempt to flee and ended it with a front flip. That cartridge and bullet combo has me impressed. The energy at 0-500 yards of a 257 Wby is nearly identical to a 308 Win with a 165 Accubond, or slightly higher than a 270 Win with a 130 Accubond. But that speed of the Wby is hard to look past when you consider trajectory.
The 100 grain TTSX and the 257 Weatherby were made for each other. I love ballistic tips in other calibers, but in this caliber velocities, they turn into frag grenades.
I'm surprised that there aren't a lot of Partition fans here. I think that the 115 grain Nosler Partition is hands down one of the best bullets for not just the 257 Bee, but all of the quarter bores.
I can't afford to by ammo for my 257 weatherby mag now since I've been retired. I bought 5 boxes when I bought the rifle before I retired now on a low fixed income that they cut by one third 2 months ago I can't afford to even zero it.
25/06 AI is my favorite but my dad loves the .257 Hot Tamale.!
Speed kills!
Barnes TTSX 100gr the only bullet I ever will hunt with anymore. All others are expensive hyped up junk. They stay together and absolutely kill like lightning. 257 Roy is my favorite caliber bar none. You responsibly and ethically hunt and shoot and Barnes bullets will do the rest. I'm getting 1/2in groups at 100 yds and 3/4 at 200. 3500fps. All from a Wby Vanguard 2. Absolutley incredibly accurate rifle!!!
Agree, unbeatable bullet.
I've shot around 30 deer with 100 grain ballistic tips from 100 yards to 565 yards and they do absolutely a fan job longest blood trail was 50 yards max. Most of them drop like a sack of rocks.
I love my Weatherby Outfitter 257 WeaMag with 120 grain Nosler Partitions. It performs with absolute certainty.
117 gr Sierra game king is what i shoot in my 257 wetherby for antelope ,mule deer,an elk .
Speed, an hits extremely hard an super penetration . Just drops em like a rock !
what people dont understand is, is the energy that 100 grain bullet is carrying makes up for its smaller size, sure bigger grains hit hard but bigger doesnt carry the energy of the smaller 100g does
I have been shooting the 100 grs ttsx and tsx bullet out of my 257 weatherby magnum.
I had never lost a deer or an elk using these to bullets.
I have never had any doubt on the 100grs or have any reason to go to a heavier bullet.
However I have used 115 grs and 120 grs out of my 25-06
Not because they were good because my 25-06 shoots extremely good using a heavier bullets
I had the 25-06 before the 257 weatherby magnum.
Which one I like better
I don't know.
I did loose my 25-06 to my brother
Stupid of me to let him borrow it,
He think when he borrowed something from you.
He thinks you actually gave to him.
He actually traded my rifle for two pistol.
That was my mistake and how I lost my 25-06
I’ve had mine for 11yrs now and killed MN/ND whitetails with it. The 100gr TSX and TTSX are my go to bullets. What he says about them are dead on correct. I’ve shot deer at 30yds and longest shot (steadied on a hay bale) was 386yds. Dropped in their tracks. Someone said that this caliber and the TSX line are made for each other. He’s correct.
The only other bullets I used with it are cheap factory spire points as they were $40 at the time. They worked well too.
I know one thing. When they sell a Weatherby caliber rifle, they should sell a reload system with it!
I have used the TSX flat nose in a 30-30 tree stand hunting in MN. It did okay, but I think these monolithic bullets need speed to blade out and penetrate.
Arizona, Sonora Coues deer hunter here, at first used the ballistic tips, however when i opened up my deer would find the bullet in SEVERAL pieces! I switched to the Accubond and wow, big difference! My bucks at times would literally flip over and land on their backs with their legs pointing up, that bullet hits with TONS of energy. Also when i recover them they are well mushroomed and almost entirely in tact, so definitely recommend them 👍
Since I was 11 years old the .257weatherby was so exciting to me one of my favorites an I Know my cartridges and ballistics I studied every caliber lol saved in my brain love it !
I have shot the 257 WBY 115 gr. Nosler Ballistic Tip for years, have taken many deer with it. They either drop on their tracks or walk 10 steps and die. I have never had to track a single deer or loose one, all of them passtrough.
I use the 80 gr TTSX in my 250 Savage. Works perfect. I'd like to see someone use it in the 257 Wby Mag.
Favorite rifle I own. They completely shuck armadillos.. Might add I use factory 120 grain Nosler Partition on deer. Never lost a deer with it.
There are a lot of very good bullets from many manufacturers, but Barnes TTSX and TSX are at the top of my list also. Found one that went through the shoulder and found it under the hide on the other side by the hip. It still had all but one of the pellets attached. I would have never guessed it would hold together that well because those bullets are spinning 100k + rpms. It was out of a 7MM on an elk just over 300 yards. I have no idea whether that is typical because it’s the only one we have found.
I have never recovered a Barnes from any animal. Would sure like to. They just work.
My experience with TTSX is a friend shot a Caribou and it had zero expansion, found under skin.
It was a 30-06 180gr TTSX.
I was in impressed.
Me I shoot a .264 Win Mag and for 20 years or more use Nosler 120gr BT but inside 100 yards it was a bomb, almost cutting a Coyote in half. Deer or Antelope 150-500+ worked perfect.
Today I use Nosler 130gr AB works great on Caribou I shot. Clean pass through at just under 300 Yards.
If I was you I would try Swift Bullets or Nosler 120gr Partition in your .257 Weatherby.
I have had excellent accuracy with Partition in my 300 H&H Mag.
Perfectly stated. I started hunting deer in my then state, Texas, 50 years ago. For whitetail the .257 Wby Mag was awesome with a 117 - 120 gr bullet. Dynamite. Mulies & Pronghorn most often saw my .264 Win Mag used with heavier bullets; most often a 140 gr. Both killer for slightly different animals and distances.
Good review. I never was the biggest Barnes fan. But at the velocities of the 257 I am going to try the Weatherby 100 grain loads.
Do it !! You won't be sorry. I've killed 4 deer and 1 elk with my 257 Roy and the Barnes 100gr TTSX performed flawlessly, first 2 deer were with 115gr Berger,(not impressed) last 2 with Barnes 100gr TTSX, and also the elk. D R T ! YAY BARNES!!!!!!!!!
Im heading to Nebraska on Tuesday with my 257 Weatherby...im gonna use the Barnes 100 TTSX....wish me luck!
How'd it go?
I chest shot large kangaroos with 110 accubonds that are about the width of a good size deer, an found the bullet went right through them... Then they hopped off only to fall over 150 to 200 yds away.
When i switched back to conventional lead spire points kills were instantaneous.
I've used the 115 NBT in 257 roberts for many deer kills, never lost one, but as you say that was at 2800fps muzzle velocity. In my 257 Wby I use 110 NAB and 100 TSX/TTSX. For somewhere out beyond 300yds maybe use the 115 BT with the weatherby otherwise it would probably do a nasty job on the poor animal.I use the Barnes 100tsx in my 257 roberts now with good results, even does well on grouse headshots.
One thing I quite like about the Nosler ballistic tip is how easy it is to find an accurate load for. In my .300 win mag with 180 b-tips I literally just went out and shot with the first load I developed and couldn’t believe how accurate it already was, no fiddling with seating depth or anything. It wasn’t a full power load, more like a warm .30-06, but I left well enough alone after looking at the target.
Looking at getting a 257 Weatherby mag, sold my 300 Weatherby mag, used the 165 bst ammo. Shot my elk at 600 yards, elk went down. Hit it right behind the shoulder. It destroyed the shoulders and rib cage. The bullet was like shooting a grenade in the animal and detonating inside of it. Shot deer with it as well, just as well used a 50 cal on them. They didn’t run, they just fell. Think I missed one shot but it died anyways. Heart attack probably. Lol.
i shot a cape buffalo on the 12 aug 2020 with my .300 weatherby and it was loaded with 200gr barns x and it expand beautifully ,it was about 50 meters away i use barns x because i have shot many kudu, waterbuck on my farm with weatherby ammo and was not impressed with the nosler that it was loaded with , many times it was completely out of the coper jacked . the buffalo was shot from the front and found the bullet in the ribcage . from now i will use only barns x on my .300 weatherby . good video
I shoot 100 grain nosler ballistic tip from my 2506. Very good deer bullet complete pass through from 100 to 500 yards
Never use boat tailed bullets for hunting. I use the Sierra 117 grain Pro Hunter bullets with complete pass through performance everytime, and hits the ground like a ton of brick.
Great video. Real world experience. I enjoyed it. I have settled on the 100 Grn tsx but the 110 accubond shoots just as well
I'm using 120 grain Nosler Partition and have no complaints at all. One shot one kill every time. Thought about loading some Barnes LRX but am wondering if the 1 in 10 twist will handle this.
I’ve been using the 80 gr TTSX with remarkable results!!!
I have 100 gr also but haven’t worked up a load for them yet
I really like the 80gr TTSX too, but I worry a bit about barrel life. Muzzle velocity is very high.
I've never had factory ammo pollute the barrel of my 257. But, I've loaded and shot all the 25 cal weights available. I highly recommend a good lead core, and at the 117/120 gr weight, for game loads. I don't recommend partitions, especially with lighter bullets,,,, I've seen the "devastation" they create if your shot is not spot on.
Very satisfactory results using factory 100 gr. Soft point on whitetail, hogs and coyotes.
110g accubond in my 257 and very,very effective killer at long range (600 metres )on Himalayan bull tahr here in NZ.
To be honest they will kill any animal,anywhere actually.
Shot placement is the key and Roy Weatherby shot all African game with 257 Wtby.
just got a 257 weatherby love it first hog boar 265 pound at 85 yards suppressed i have never heard a bullet hit animal that hard before im sold and no recoil shot him with a hornaday ELDX but will be useing barns x from now on the hornaday is loaded light 3200
Also changed.all my hunting bullets to Barns TTSX they get the job done thanks
Me to , all calibers about ten years ago. Can’t be beat.
I have been a professional hunting guide since 1976 with this is my only income.
I have found the exact same results with the Nosler Ballistic tips and Accubonds blowing up and very little penetration the bullets have on deer and larger game.
Many of the game shot by my clients using the ballistic tips & accubonds end up a massive pain looking for the animals after shot and they run off then die.
I had a client shoot a black tail buck using a 338 win mag shooting 200 grain Accubond bullet that the bullet blew up then we found fragments of lead and copper and the bullets base in the deer.
My experience on the Nosler Accubond it is a gimmick by Nosler to charge more money for the same type of bullets as the Ballistic tips.
When I am guiding in Alaska the clients are required to bring not less than a 338 win mag and to bring ammunition loaded with Barns TSX bullets or other brands of copper expanding bullets and absolutely NO bullets with lead cores are allowed in my hunting camps.
I've used the 115BT bullet to take several deer but with a 257 Roberts at 2800fps. None ever ran off, shots up to about 275yds. At 3200fps in my Weatherby I'm not too sure how they will perform, probably a bit more violently. But that is what I'll be using this year. Used the 110AB in the past in WBY with pass through results. I consider the WBY a flat shooting cartridge and not necessarily a long range cartridge in stock configurations. Certainly if you change barrel to a 7.5 twist and shoot ~130g bullets it could be a very good long range cartridge.
Not sure I'm following your point. I have handloaded and used all three of these bullets in various weights in my 257 Wby. Each deer or pronghorn shot ranged from fifty to 250 yards. In every case they either dropped in their tracks, or staggered off about twenty, twenty-yards before going antlers over azsholes and piling up into a venison ready heap. They all performed flawlessly. I've never asked for anything more than that in any hunting situation. Am I missing something here?
I don't doubt you had great results with several different bullets from your 257 - this review wasn't about which bullets you need to "kill" deer from a 257... just about anything will do. This was more about the difference in how these bullets do the job.
The 115 grain ballistic tip is a good shot on deer at short range if you shoot heart shots or high shoulder shots near the spine to drop them on the spot...
I only take broadside shots on deer though. It is more ethical... Solids should always be shoulder shots, best high shoulder.....
Rapid expansion / rapid fragmentation is king. Pass through is not necessary. BERGER, ELDM for me.
NOTHING compares to rapid expansion/fragmenting bullets.
Pass through is not necessary, but it wins the day if you want to be prepared for all shot angles, not just broadside. Rapid expansion can be devastating, but not in every situation. A tight quartering away shot with rapid expansion / fragmenting bullet will likely be a gut shot. With a TSX / TTSX or something similar that bullet will end up going through the chest cavity if you did your part.
@NCMirage257 I personally only take good shots, or I just pass. Not into bad shots angles or bad angles. Quarter to quarter away. Zero hard quartering away shots where guts are in its path.i don't consider that a good angle. I never had an angle with a rifle i wasn't able to get a good shot angle. I'll never do a Texas heart shot. Unless it's on a wounded animal.
But there is shank left with rapid expansion bullets anyway. Many times, more often than not,there is an exit. That's the misconception that gets passed around. Many many videos on line verifying that rapid expansion bullets have much more internal damage to organs. Also before you bring up fragments all through the meat is also mostly not true. Those tiny fragments have extremely small and light so don't or can't penetrate more than a few inches outside it's path. Of course if there is a large chunk, things happen.
But I love this topic and have put more time into it than a lot. Great talking to ya. You do you and enjoy yourself out there. Be safe and have a great day
Good to know. Getting ready to order a wby 257 accuguard. I will for sure look into these
Got one; haven't shot it yet but aesthetically it looks nice and the bolt moves smoothly. Only thing I noticed is that the barrel is not 100% centered in the forearm space being slightly offset to the left (it is a free floated barrel). Hopefully it won't make contact with the forearm negating the free floating intended effect.
257 Weatherby is one he'll of a good cartridge, But have you seen the price of a box of Weatherby ammo?
Agreed 115 ballistic tips blow up on impact. In nosler the 120 partition is my choice.
Good video, I’ve been trying to decide between the 257 wby and 6.5-300 wby. I’ve got a 6.5 Creedmoor and 6.5 prc now so I’m leaning toward the 257, I just haven’t seen a lot of videos on it.
Depends what you want to do with it. The nice thing about the 257 is it's the flattest non-wildcat rifle you can get to about 500 yards, and the recoil is very modest. But, due to the relatively stubby bullets it's not really an ultra-long range gun (500+ yards) as it really starts losing steam way out there. It's an ideal deer / antelope gun if your hunting style may have you shooting out to about 500 yards, but not much more. If you want to go beyond that, or use it for elk, then you should go with the 6.5-300 wby.
@@NCMirage257 I’m looking at the 6.5-284 norma also. And it will be a hunting rifle out to 500-600 at the most
@@bartowpd342 If you want something that's actually different than what you have then the 257 or 6.5-300 will step you into the "not efficient but really fun" zone. Just for comparison, if you have the 6.5-300, 257, 6.5-284, and 6.5 Creedmoor all zeroed for 100 yards with their most suitable bullets (100 gr for 257 and 127-ish for the 6.5's), the drop at 400 yards in the order I listed them is like this: -16.52", -17.66", -22.8", and -29.2". As you can see the 257 and 6.5-300 are within an inch of each other, the 6.5-284 drops over 5" more than the 257, and the creedmoor drops another 6.4" more than the 6.5-284. If you're planning to take it mainly for deer the 257 is light recoiling and super flat. PLUS, if you want to shoot elk someday, it gives you an excuse to get the 6.5-300 later (that's my current plan...)
I use Norma 100gr sp. 75--300 yards. Devistating! Rare to get a pass through. Not much blood trail but never need to trail one yet. None have went more than 20 yards, most drop straight down. The 100gr sp turns the inside into soup!! If a bullet goes all the way through, you are loosing energy into the dirt on the other side. JMHO. And just my experience with the 257 weatherby.
Barnes triple shock is the best bullet
Thank you Sir, you opened my eyes 👍
I've killed over 40 deer with the 100 grain ballistic tip & 257 mag. Point blank to 500yds. 90 percent never moved. 1 large buck ran 250 yds but it was a 30 yd shot. Hate the barnes. One of my favorite in 257 & 280 Ackley is a Sierra gameking. Affordable, accurate & inexpensive.
I own 3 257 Wby Mags. Best bullet I have found is 115 Nosler Partition.
Absolutely. Copper bullets suck if they are heavy for caliber out of a non magnum. Get them screaming like your case, different story.
Nice bucks thanks for sharing your experience. Try the partitions and the set. Light and heavy trying alot of things if you hunt that much it be a full time hobby right.
I shoot 110 accubonds with rl25 powder. I’ve killed everything from prairie dogs to elk with that bullet and nothing has made it more than 20 yrds after getting hit
Nice video but my .257 doesn't shoot the 100grain tsx worth a crap. Sure I killed 3 doe with those bullets in two years I never had an exit wound. Just reloaded 120 grain Speer boatails at around 2950fps for this year. All in all I love the caliber
Mine doesn't like the ttsx or the spires. Loves the 115 gr. BTs but I have read a few horror stories about them blowing up on game so I swapped to a 115 Berger VLD. Its a killer combo.
I am looking into a new rifle and am stuck between 2 cartridges 257 weatherby mag or the 280 ackley would love some input
Really depends what you want to hunt with it / how you want to use it. The 257 is ideal if you want the flattest shooting deer / antelope specialty gun for 500yds and less - much further and the light bullet with mediocre BC really loses steam (I use mine specifically for this purpose). If you plan on shooting bigger stuff, and you're not as concerned with losing a few inches on the ballistics chart, the 280 will give you more flexibility because of the bullets available.
Thanks for the reply I think I will do the 257👍🏼👍🏼
How do you think the 100 grain spitzers would do on deer?
I think they will kill them, but they're really going to splat due to the very high velocities - even the Accubonds really explode at closer ranges with a 257. I'd recommend something tougher so you know you'll get penetration at short ranges / high velocities - something like a TSX, TTSX, or partition. Remember, you'll be pushing that 100 gr bullet in excess of 3,500 fps. Good luck!
My neighbor has killed several deer close and one at about 200 yards with the Spitzers. All but one was a pass thru. That was a frontal shot and bullet was just in front of the hip. Seeing the killing power of the 100 grain Spitzers I would highly recommend them also.
TY, very informative.
120 grain swift A frame.
Hi sir I never heard what powder you are running and why you chose 100gr over the 80 ttxs and the 115txs.
Using IMR4831. I've not seen a 115 gr option in the TTSX for 257. The 100 gr is already somewhat stubby, and the 80 gr would be even worse downrange, so that's why I chose the 100.
How is barrel fouling using the ttsx at super high velocity 3350fps-3450fps?
I haven't had any issues, but I'm also not shooting a ton of rounds through it either. Worst thing with the 257 is that barrel gets hot QUICK!
Wonderful video!
Thank you for that info
I use the round nose out to and including 300 yards .does fine.past that I would chamber the others.the round nose comes to the same point of impact as the others to 300 yards.
I want to get a 257 Weatherby but i need to know a little more. I know its intended for long range flat shooting needs and will dust deer at 300 an 400 yards which is definitely in my wheel house. But sometimes I shoot them as close as 30 and 50 yards. Will the 257 Weatherby have outstanding performance on a very close deer or does the speed actually hurt it in close situations? I generally shoot a 30-06 which takes care of business near and far. I'm just really interested in the 257...... Thanks!
Yes, as long as you use a tough bullet like the TSX or TTSX. I've shot them as close as 6 yards with my 257 with no issues whatsoever. I see very little difference in bullet performance close or far with the TTSX, they pass through either way with tremendous hydrostatic shock. On the other hand I shot a nice buck with the 110 accubond at about 25 yards. It only went 10 yards and died but the bullet just about disintegrated in the chest cavity with no exit.
Does anyone have experience with the Weatherby select plus, with the 110gr Hornady ELDX projectile? My rifle shoots them extremely well but the last two whitetails killed with them have not had an exit wound. Both deer only made it 15-20yds after the shot. But we have some very thick, overgrown cutdowns. In the event that the animal made it into the cutdown, it would be extremely difficult to track.
I have not but that's not a very sturdy bullet design so I'm not surprised that you had it happen with 257 velocities - assuming it was fairly close range.
That’s correct. Both deer were inside 100yds. Considering that this video was posted a while ago. Have you changed your bullet setup?
Nope. I use tipped TSX now in my 257 WBY, 243 and 7mm-08. They're just so consistent and reliable.
i can tell you from experience that using the ballistic tip out of a 270 weatherby was a recipe for disaster and took me the loss of two deer before I realized it was the bullet.
Sorry bud, but have to vehemently disagree with your take on the 115 gr NBT. Between the wife and I, we've shot at least 40 mature whitetails with that bullet in both a Wby Vanguard and a Rem 700 CDL. We shoot for MEAT. Every shot is standing broadside and our object is to tuck the bullet behind the mid shoulder for a low double lung or heart. We've shot them as close as 40 yds and as far as 460 yds. Most shots are from 100 to 150. All deer are processed by me personally and never have I seen an instance where the bullet failed to exit. Neither of us have ever missed with that round. We always come away with four whole perfect quarters, the backstaps, and tenderloins. Yeah, you lose a little rib meat, but never had a hole big enough to fit a golf ball. Who cares? Stop trying to shoot deer in the shoulders. Bullets do crazy shit when you hit heavy bone. Speed kills, period. Kinetic energy/shock is more than enough though the ribs. You get horrendous and laughably short blood trails. Absolutely 100% trust that setup. Most of the time we get a bang flop. Nothing has every gone more than 20 yds. Most of you armchair ballistcians are very quick to write off a ballistic tip with out ever having tried it yourself.. It kills like a 7MM and kicks like a .243. I literally load and shoot less than 10 rounds a year. I verify zero, wife shoots it 2-3 times, and we put all the rest through deer. I don't give two shits about barrel life. It's not a cartridge intended for anything else other than taking game.. Shoots ultra flat and kills like lightning. What more can you ask for?
What you're saying is no different than what I said. If you wait for a perfect broadside shot and hit the deer through the ribs just about any bullet will do. I've killed a bunch with ballistic tips myself. My comment was if you have situations where the deer isn't posing just the way you'd like, other bullets will give you more reliable performance and a better chance of killing the deer. A severe quartering away shot is a good example, with a good bullet it's an absolutely devastating and fatal shot, but with a b-tip you risk a gut shot because the bullet may not reach the vitals.
I know this video is 3 years old. If you want great penetration, try the Nosler E-tips.
Shoot n 110gr accubond out of my 257 Bob.
So the original accubond is rated at 3200, your 257 was probably pushing 3400 even at 150 yards.
Quick question.
I just purchased my first Weatherby .257 mag
I’m not a long range shooter but have always wanted one of these rifles.
Do you think the 100g Hornady Interlock will be good enough for whitetail hunting or should i spend the extra money on the 100g TTSX? My longest shot probably wouldn’t be more than 200 yards where i hunt. Thanks for your advice.
It will kill the deer but at sub-200 yd ranges it will definitely splat! If they shoot good for you I'd use them and see what the results are. You can then decide if you want to spend more on the TSX type bullets.
@@NCMirage257 Me again! Need more advice. I had my rifle bore sighted. Within just a few shots at 25 yards I was dead on. Moved out to 100 yards and completely missed an 8" paper target. I'm using a lead sled gun vise and shooting the 100g TTSX. Any advice is appreciated. Thanks
So from your comment I can't tell if you have no idea where it's hitting at 100 yards or if you were just surprised it missed the paper. Anyway, if you were on at 25 but have no idea where it went at 100, try 50 to get it dialed closer before going to 100 (or use a big piece of cardboard at 100 so you can see impact). Also, I wouldn't use a lead sled or vise for the 257, I'd use sand bags and shoot it like you would in a hunting situation. Using sleds and vises can change point of impact slightly as compared to how you would hold the rifle while hunting (anything touching the barrel or even impacting how the rifle recoils into your body changes harmonics from how you would "normally" hold the rifle - consistency is key). This isn't why you're not hitting at 100 yards, but just what I'd recommend to get ready for hunting. Good luck.
Have you tried the LRX 101 Gr. Yet?
If your rifle likes the 115 grain but you don't want the ballistic tip you should try the 115 Berger VLD.
jeffery lorsung thats a good idea if you want to chase your deer. Berger’s are for punching paper,not hunting! Barnes all day long!
@@MarktheSharkC agreed. My buddy just lost a good buck shooting Bergers, and he made a good shot. Nosler Partitions for me all the way
I have mixed results with 115 eld"s. Shot 1 buck at 60yds broad side, DRT ! Made a frontal shot on a buck, bullet went in and deflected and came out behind the ribs and destroyed a hind quarter. Deer ran off for the next county. Chased him down and killed him with a broadside shot at 150yds. Will not use Berger bullets again! Barnes bullets would have floored him. Just my opinion.
Ballistic Tips have no place in the hunting world with fast rifles such as 25-06 and 257 wby period!
Just read your message without watching the whole vid yet, I’m going to take a guess but is it because at the speed they’re going, they expand almost at impact not penetrating enough to cause damage?
Yes. That being said I've never had one cause a superficial wound due to that, but I've had situations where the penetration was less than optimal.
A clarification. Don’t confuse “Ballistic Tips” with ballistic tips, which are nearly standard in almost all premium hunting bullets. A ballistic tip isn’t a bad thing and has only minimal impact on overall bullet construction and terminal performance. But, Nosler Ballistic Tips are generally considered varmint bullets, which are very thinly jacketed and come with “explosive” results.
I disagree , you weren't trained right. I use ""Soft points""" A deer ain't a moose , or ox or bear . I killed maybe 20 deer with a 22 l.r. when I was a kid. at 14 I knew exactly which rifle I wanted. 257 Mark 5 deluxe . And I got it. Nothing was safe with me in the woods. The 257 will kill anything in the U.S. or Canada and with about any bullet , if you know where to shoot them =all animals . There's nothing fancy about hunting , there are no fashion labels , it's about putting food in the freezer . And the 257 Roy is all you need. I hear people talk about the 338 , 260 ,30-06 ,7 mm , etc etc . I can take a single barrel 12 ga. shotgun and kill anything in N.America. Anything. And there's nothing exciting about a single barrel shotgun . Don't get lost in the hype. It isn't about Records , or trophy's with most of us. Peace.
Interesting reply Big Fellar, I agree one of us probably hasn't been trained right. And I'd venture to guess it's the one that was allowed to shoot "maybe 20" deer with a rimfire as a kid. Anyway, I never said soft points won't kill deer... killed a ton with them. Moose and black bear aren't tough to kill either. But if you're a meat hunter as you claim to say, I have no idea why you want to splat a deer with a soft point from your 257 that I know from experience can destroy a whole shoulder / neck area and will leave pulverized lead throughout - I've cut tons of blood-shot meat from deer shot with B-tips and the like and can tell you for a fact that you will destroy MUCH less meat with something like the TSX or TTSX. Have you ever weighed one of the recovered mushrooms from one of the soft points? Wonder where that "missing" material went? Have you ever compared a skinned deer shot with a TSX type bullet with one shot with a soft point and looked at the difference in wasted meat? And perhaps you've shot every one of your deer perfectly broadside, but in case you didn't, I guarantee the tougher bullet will do a much better job not wounding the deer. So what is important to you?
4-500 fps second faster??? Think you are a little optimistic.
Even with a 24 inch barrel the Wby factory load 100 gr TSX chronographed at over 3,550. Compare that to standard 270 win 130 grain velocities.
6 yards with a .257? lol
Yeah... I wasn't about to chase it off for a longer shot!
@@NCMirage257 I'm torn between 257 & 25-06. What do you think?? I hunt deer in southern Missouri. What's the recoil like on the 257???? Thank you, Chris
Recoil is very modest, lighter than my 270 or 7mm-08. The wby will cost you more in ammo and not as "efficient", but it's just like getting a sports car, not practical but fun. If you're not planning to shoot 300+ yards fairly regularly, you don't need the wby.
@@NCMirage257 thanks, I bought a 25-06 in a Remington 700
Hi. Have you any plans to try the 80 grain TTSX? The velocity from the Weatherby would be scorching. I have picked up a box to try in my 25-06.
I've used the 80 grain TTSX in a 243 and it works great for whitetails and mule deer. I have not tried it in the 257, IMO the 100gr is plenty fast in that caliber already!
I loaded 20 rounds of 80 gr. TTSX in my 257 Accumark during load development, it was my most accurate and fastest, 3850 FPS. I was surprised. I haven't hunted with it yet but It would be an excellent Pronghorn cartridge. I also had great accuracy with 90 gr. Absolute Hammer bullets going over 3800 fps and very accurate.
The downside of the lighter bullets is the wind drift but I love the speed and accuracy on a calm day.