Brittney Hartley is my favorite post mormon/religious philosopher! She articulates her thoughts and ideas in ways I could only dream of. Thank you Brit for all you share! I’m reading your book on kindle tonight!!!
I am an ex-Mormon, from Guatemala. My family is active members of the Church and I know they are worried about me. My Mother never misses an opportunity to tell me that she prays for me or to directly ask me to return to Church. I have tried many times to either return or attend some other church, but now I read before. I research the history of the church where I intend to go. Whether it be Catholic, Evangelical, even something related to Indian religions. And I am increasingly convinced that there is no religion without corruption. None is what it claims to be. Recently I have felt the need to tell my brothers and my mother how corrupt the LDS Church is, I feel great shame because they attend, so naively give their lives and money to such a despicable thing... But I don't do it because I know it will frustrate them. The Church is a placebo but I myself can't find anything better to offer them. It's so hopeless. As human beings we need spirituality, but throughout history we have related spirituality to religion... I don't know how to help my family now.
You can help them by being authentic. That means having all the emotions that make you human. You will have to deal with their reactions. Don’t be surprised to find they’re jealous!
Growing up without religious programming and trauma is one of the greatest gifts you can give a child. My husband was fortunate enough to live that childhood and he’s amazing and helping support me as I deconstruct.
This is resonating with me. I had 2 sons die a year apart and I found my Mormon self praying to them rather than to Father. I considered that this was how catholic style Saints came into being. I interrupted this direction because of my Mormon faith. Today I feel my sons everlasting love calling me back. The kingdom of God is within. 🙌🏼😍🥰💜
How people react differently to finding out that there's nothing after death is so interesting to me. I found it incredibly relieving. I stopped living for eternity and started living for me. It removed a lot of shame from my life because I was never going to be good enough according to Mormon standards. I can just enjoy life now. Enjoy being a human.
After seeing this I realize that even though I left Mormonism over 25 years ago I have never fully deconstructed my faith. I look forward to reading the book. Thank you.
Britt makes sense out of confusing concepts in a way that is easily graspable. Grateful for her dedication and hard work. Thanks for making the scary seem not so scary.
Highly enlightening episode. I had avoided listening to this particular episode because having "spirituality" in the title caused me to have the "allergic" response that Britt spoke of. She addressed so many questions and concerns, including topics that I still need to work through, including acceptance of uncertainty (and that the certainty we HAD wasnt real), the finality of death, etc. The concept of Jesus as the scapegoat, our "sacrificial lamb," and how far back humans have placed our failings onto an animal, a virgin, an innocent child, and eventually on a man/God was something that I'd never considered. Brilliant!
Ok I did it…bought Britt’s fantastic book. I already started the kindle sample and the hard copy is on its way (cause I too am old school & like to hold a book in my hands). Exactly what I’ve been looking for & what I’ve been wanting to write for those leaving Catholicism, so thank you for the clarity & inspiration Britt & Mormon Stories for bringing this kind of important content to your audiences.
Does Brittany have a podcast/ RUclips channel? Cause she's the best speaker on these things that I've ever listened too, and I listen to several hours worth of this stuff every single day.
I am so glad I found you Brit & will be buying your book. I’m Never Mormon, I have been struggling with nihilism on and off for my whole life. I love Mormon stories because it’s confronting to hear others struggle with these questions. But you are what I’ve been looking for and your words have helped me so much. Thank you Brit!! ❤
About 200 years ago, the Universalist minister Hosea Ballou was traveling on horseback beside a Baptist minister. The Baptist said, “If I were a Universalist like you, and didn’t believe in Hell, I could hit you on the head, steal your horse, and leave you lying in the road, and have no fear of consequences.” Ballou replied, “Yes, you could. But if you were a Universalist, the idea wouldn’t occur to you.” I’ve been following this channel for about a month, as a complete outsider. I was raised by two very ethical, moral, atheist parents. I’ve ordered Britt’s book, not because her ideas are new to me, but because they’re very familiar. I’m a third-generation Unitarian. In 1961, within my lifetime, the Unitarian and Universalist denominations merged, so now I’m a Unitarian Universalist. I’ve debated about mentioning this humanist, non-Christian denomination in the comments here, because we’re pretty allergic to proselytizing: many of our members are “come-outers” who have come out of abusive religions. But after listening to Britt talking about so many things that I’ve been taught all my life, I thought I’d mention it, not to suggest that it’s for everyone, but because it’s sometimes a well-kept secret, and maybe some people reading this might find the information useful. I thought about saying more, but maybe I’ll just leave it there. Except to recommend a passage I first heard read in the pulpit at my church. Google this to find it: “You want a physicist to speak at your funeral.”
Each week in my UU church, we say these words together: "Love is the spirit of this church and service is its law. This is our great covenant: to dwell together in peace, to seek the truth in love, and to help one another." - James Vila Blake I've been thinking how John might appreciate Unitarian Universalism. It gives me a place where I can explore questions of morality, ethics, and values, a place to create and engage in rituals, a place where reason and science are valued, a place where we gather each week to build the beloved community. When John talks about the good that Mormons get from their church, especially the community aspect, I just want to hug him and remind him that you can get all of those good things and more without the religious trauma. For me, I get them from my UU community. I think "Spirituality: No Faith Required" could be a slogan for UUs. 😊
For the death deal, I tell ppl that there was a lot of time before I was born, and I’m none the worse for not having been conscious for it. I figure when I’m gone, it will be like that. Stoic philosophy is good for this also.
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.” Mark Twain
This is exceptionally good! I've listened to it 3 times now. Britt has clearly done the work and is so eloquent - I kept thinking how perfectly she phrased something that I had experienced. And I really appreciated Margi and John's input too from their own experiences, each so unique to them. Will definitely be buying the book when I get my next paycheck 😂
Aww. I look forward to this so much. I’m a nevermo. But, I am deconstructing from Christianity. I was hurt so badly from organized religion, but I still believe strongly in a spiritual world. I feel best when I am not just a physical, intellectual and emotional person, but a spiritual person. I want to be in alignment with my true self and am figuring out what that means. I’ve realized that I am nervous about anything litigious, judgmental or rule based. I, personally, support critical thinking and each person’s ability to decide their own beliefs about this topic. I do miss church and community, but also don’t want to turn off my brain. Looking forward to hearing her story and getting her book on audible.
Excited for this episode, 33 years out of the church and recently discovered spirituality. I guess all my deconstruction has been worked through already though so not so much of a religious brain anymore. What I love about spirituality is there is no one path, everyone is on their own journey and what resonates for me might not resonate for you. Its okay to hold conflicting things at the same time, it's okay not to know if one of those ideas is right, all of them are right or none of them are right. The important thing is you are growing and expanding. What I will say is beware of spirituality meeting dogma, they are opposite sides of the same coin where spirituality is open and dogma closed. It is very easy to treat spirituality as dogma and I think that is one of the reasons there is a certain court case going on in idaho at the moment.
i've got a huge test this Friday, but I just bought the book on amazon! I'm so excited to read this! thanks for the work you're all doing in this space.
Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm was a psychology book choice for a college class. It opened my eyes to the fact that most of us would rather someone else make the decisions.
Outstanding program., getting people to stop believing people can be possessed by evil spirits..one step at a time. It is a process that takes time and so much thinking things through all the way to the end, to know that there are no such thing as evil spirits, except in one's own imagination.
I used to be terrified that I would be dead some day! Even when as a member of the church! I am connected to everything. No longer terrified. Trying to be present everyday! I get to be part of the ripple effect of humanity! I hope there’s something after but I don’t know! Only know what’s in front of me! AND….It’s fucking awesome!!!
fear of freedom was the hardest for me. having to learn what it is to really live when your whole life before was dedicated to service to others and it was your whole sense of worth...
I thought I would die on the hill of reading only physical copies of books but I recently started doing audiobooks and it is so much easier for me with my busy lifestyle. I can multi-task even. It is so hard for me to just sit down and read a book nowadays. TBH, I am more likely to fall asleep reading too. 😂😂 Audiobook is needed.
I often call chat GPT, therapy GPT. It is so so helpful as things pop up. It’s similar to talking to a hero or “my enlightened self” or a loved one in heaven, as it helps you connect with how you are feeling, how you perceive the world and what your true self feels.
Years ago an early Fidonet Exmormon philosopher Matt Berry wrote three small books on a similar subject. Self Behaviorism, A Human Strategy: Towards a genuine spirituality, and Deliberate Belief: Diary of a Religious Crisis. Theses were my anchors, when leaving the church. No internet at the time, just the Fidonet lists. But that is where I read Matt's insightful reasoning about leaving the Mormon church.
I'm going to read this book for sure ❤ I'm finding it difficult to deconstruct while keeping my spiritual beliefs and not going full on atheist, I know atheism is logical but I still want to keep a door open for possibilities while also trying to debunk everything (cause that's how science works 😂)
As a Survivor of 2 Near Death Experiences, Now you are Speaking My Language, Ever a Deep Seeker of Spiritual Truths and Higher Consciousness, but ever Distrustful of Man-made Organized 'Religions', withIn which Predator$ and Wolves in proverbial '$heep'$ 'clothing' often hide, ....from the Bottom of my Heart , I Thank you for this Episode !
I've been in several near death experiences. I'm still here because I have so many goals and dreams and God knows that so I'm still here until my karma is done completely
This was one of my favorite shows. I just watched it though it probably was posted months ago. I was not raised in a religious household but this all made sense to me but I do have my own beliefs:) she’s very insightful:) Loved it:)
This book really sounds like the next thing in the normalizing of atheism. We've run the other direction of tossing it all. Now it's time for a rational look at the ubiquity of religion, take what we can learn from it, and take it to the next level for a more compassionate cooperative humanity.
I wonder how many others had it like one parent was fundamentalist and the other was just negative about mysticism. It’s liberating to find yourself after that if you know the confusion of that too.
I just started the episode and I was wondering if anybody knows if this book is on audio? Injury leaves me with a very difficult time understanding what I read. Thank you. Hope it’s on audio.
44:49 Hi Britt or podcast hosts or audiences. Can you please answer this question? If a person pray to themselves, would this be considered narcissism? Or would this be an exception to rule, and this narcissism of praying to ourselves be okay? Then again is some narcissism okay or is all narcissism bad?
I try not to judge a book by its cover... I want to buy this book, but having a hard time with the cover. Can you rxplain the cover art so perhaps I can wrap my head around it...
1:39:28 Wellness as a religion? Are any of you following Bryan Johnson, the ex-Mormon who has made it his goal to defeat death through healthful eating?
So many views of reality to choose from. The two most common are: non-theistic in which all of creation is coincidental and without intention (science as religion), AND diety that is amorphous without passion condemning some and saving others. Then there's the view of a loving God as Heavenly parents who organized a noncompulsary means to progression in perpetuity. No matter which view you ascribe to, you run the risk of disappointment and humiliation in the here and now. And ALL of them demand some form of mental gymnastics.
John refers to someone who made some curriculum. Who is it. Where is it. I can’t find the reference anymore. Britt refers to it saying rather than re create it I’ll refer people to it..
Praise be to the Lord the great Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pray unto him in the name of Christopher Hitchens having faith in evolution & he will have the cosmic teapot pour out spiritual chamomile upon thy soul forevermore!
John always makes sure he is not against people having faith. He does not bashes the Mormons as a cult. So it would be nice if you don’t use it the Lord but lord. Like lord of the rings, don’t disrespect others faith, not even if it is a cult. Many people as we can see find their own ways and wind up living, but that is very personal. Peace!
@@laurenmay2098 Millions have witness flying spaghetti in school cafeterias! What evidence do you have for your God? 😜🙏😜 Don't moch the one & only assended being, the ancient of spices!
@@laurenmay2098 Seriously, why should respect for your god or anyone else's gods trump respect for my God? I actually have evidence for sauces, Italian seasoning, spicy meatballs, noodles, parmesan & sharp cheddar. I have personally witnessed flying spaghetti in a food fight vision. The number of people who have witnessed flying spaghetti is far greater than the number of Mormons. Why should your faith trump ours? That's very disrespectful. Have you ever asked yourself, what if I'm wrong? Do you really want to risk no Italian seasoning in the next life? Jesus himself said, judge not that ye be not judged, for with the same judgement that ye judge ye shall be judged. Ramen 🍜 & Ramen 🍜🍜🍜
Hey hope your good Also sometimes I share this, the Bible says that GOD loves us so much that he sent his son JESUS CHRIST to this earth and HE lived a perfect sinless life.And JESUS went to a cross and gave HIS life for us.And rose again in 3 days and who ever will receive JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOR AND ASK HIM TO COME INTO THEIR HEART AND FORGIVE THEIR SINS,HE WILL TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN.
This jargon just boils down to religion vs science. I'd rather keep my faith (not necessarily religion) than believe in nothing exists outside of myself.
So Britt, what is your conversion story to Mormons in the first place? Didn't you 'pray' about some part of their religion to know it was right??? I mean... something persuade d you to join, right?
I am in favor of you deciding when you are older. But many will be from birth. This is basically how life is, period. Try to go to India and talk about the sacrificing themselves in the river for a god cow or snake? Is not going to happen. You can’t stopped a person that is in the river coming what I see suicide and dedicating their death to this entity. I could not wrap my mind around this. Today I am okay with that, with some sorrow some times, but your life is your, do as you wish. Do not kill others, but your life is your to do whatever. Be free, freedom is the best.
Cool. But from loyalist to atheist?? A Me-ist? Mormonism to Meism?? No allegiance to anyone but your own self?? No standing the line between good and evil if there's a risk you could get hurt or even killed because no one's life if more important than yours?? No standing the line of freedom because you could get hurt or killed?? Let someone else fight for freedom?? That makes you proud, huh?
Don't be deceived by the spinning pizza monster of Hell's Kitchen, or you could become a Son of Pepperoni. The lord the great FSM is the one & only true spicy meatball delight. Ramen
...authoritarian Jesus??? You people really need to learn the parable of the Talents and pray, ponder and pray some more to understand which servant you are and work to become the other two.
Maybe you need to listen to the podcast again. More objectively. They talked about their years of dedication and prayer. Maybe you should stop telling people how they should and shouldn't have a relationship with God or Jesus
🐦🔥❤ i noticed all religions really are one & the same! They Honestly realky say all the same thing: "If you turn from "us" & Jesus (their Jesus) to another path, you have fallen to the evil w*cked ways of the world!" I found this is honestly in all beliefs, all religions! Honestly, it doesn't matter. I agree! All these believers & religions do n0t care if you heal on your own time or not, they're all just want #s & I find if you don't heal first before finding another "faith" it honestly really does cause more h*rm & d*m*ge, than help to heal. The one who saved me when no one else was there for me 10+ years ago: A white wiccan witch. The others were in nonsense! I acknowledge a higher power in my own way because i have no choice, but I'm so blessed not to follow crowds! ❤
Brittney Hartley is my favorite post mormon/religious philosopher! She articulates her thoughts and ideas in ways I could only dream of. Thank you Brit for all you share! I’m reading your book on kindle tonight!!!
I am an ex-Mormon, from Guatemala.
My family is active members of the Church and I know they are worried about me.
My Mother never misses an opportunity to tell me that she prays for me or to directly ask me to return to Church.
I have tried many times to either return or attend some other church, but now I read before.
I research the history of the church where I intend to go. Whether it be Catholic, Evangelical, even something related to Indian religions.
And I am increasingly convinced that there is no religion without corruption. None is what it claims to be.
Recently I have felt the need to tell my brothers and my mother how corrupt the LDS Church is, I feel great shame because they attend, so naively give their lives and money to such a despicable thing...
But I don't do it because I know it will frustrate them. The Church is a placebo but I myself can't find anything better to offer them.
It's so hopeless.
As human beings we need spirituality, but throughout history we have related spirituality to religion...
I don't know how to help my family now.
You can help them by being authentic. That means having all the emotions that make you human. You will have to deal with their reactions. Don’t be surprised to find they’re jealous!
Growing up without religious programming and trauma is one of the greatest gifts you can give a child. My husband was fortunate enough to live that childhood and he’s amazing and helping support me as I deconstruct.
This is resonating with me. I had 2 sons die a year apart and I found my Mormon self praying to them rather than to Father. I considered that this was how catholic style Saints came into being. I interrupted this direction because of my Mormon faith. Today I feel my sons everlasting love calling me back. The kingdom of God is within. 🙌🏼😍🥰💜
How people react differently to finding out that there's nothing after death is so interesting to me. I found it incredibly relieving. I stopped living for eternity and started living for me. It removed a lot of shame from my life because I was never going to be good enough according to Mormon standards. I can just enjoy life now. Enjoy being a human.
After seeing this I realize that even though I left Mormonism over 25 years ago I have never fully deconstructed my faith. I look forward to reading the book. Thank you.
Amazing Podcast! Thank you all. Brit Hartley has helped me in so many ways. I've been an ex Morman for 25 years and I'm still dealing with it.
Britt makes sense out of confusing concepts in a way that is easily graspable. Grateful for her dedication and hard work. Thanks for making the scary seem not so scary.
Highly enlightening episode. I had avoided listening to this particular episode because having "spirituality" in the title caused me to have the "allergic" response that Britt spoke of. She addressed so many questions and concerns, including topics that I still need to work through, including acceptance of uncertainty (and that the certainty we HAD wasnt real), the finality of death, etc. The concept of Jesus as the scapegoat, our "sacrificial lamb," and how far back humans have placed our failings onto an animal, a virgin, an innocent child, and eventually on a man/God was something that I'd never considered. Brilliant!
Ok I did it…bought Britt’s fantastic book. I already started the kindle sample and the hard copy is on its way (cause I too am old school & like to hold a book in my hands). Exactly what I’ve been looking for & what I’ve been wanting to write for those leaving Catholicism, so thank you for the clarity & inspiration Britt & Mormon Stories for bringing this kind of important content to your audiences.
Been watching Britt on TikTok and glad to see her making the rounds and having written a book, which I bought.
Britt I'm sending money over!! You are such an amazing resource to all of us in this deconstruction world! Bravo!
Britt is a gift. Thank you Britt for sharing your insight and wisdom with the world!!
Britt is a gem and a treasure of knowledge and insight
I’ve been a “seeker” my whole life. This. This is what I’ve been looking for. These ideas. Resonates so deeply. Can’t wait to read this book.
Brit- I played one of your tik toks to my friend. It was existential loneliness. And it mattered in ways I can’t say here in this space .
❤. Thankyou Britt, John and Margi. This has been so helpful valuable for me.
Does Brittany have a podcast/ RUclips channel? Cause she's the best speaker on these things that I've ever listened too, and I listen to several hours worth of this stuff every single day.
I am so glad I found you Brit & will be buying your book.
I’m Never Mormon, I have been struggling with nihilism on and off for my whole life. I love Mormon stories because it’s confronting to hear others struggle with these questions.
But you are what I’ve been looking for and your words have helped me so much. Thank you Brit!! ❤
About 200 years ago, the Universalist minister Hosea Ballou was traveling on horseback beside a Baptist minister. The Baptist said, “If I were a Universalist like you, and didn’t believe in Hell, I could hit you on the head, steal your horse, and leave you lying in the road, and have no fear of consequences.” Ballou replied, “Yes, you could. But if you were a Universalist, the idea wouldn’t occur to you.”
I’ve been following this channel for about a month, as a complete outsider. I was raised by two very ethical, moral, atheist parents. I’ve ordered Britt’s book, not because her ideas are new to me, but because they’re very familiar.
I’m a third-generation Unitarian. In 1961, within my lifetime, the Unitarian and Universalist denominations merged, so now I’m a Unitarian Universalist. I’ve debated about mentioning this humanist, non-Christian denomination in the comments here, because we’re pretty allergic to proselytizing: many of our members are “come-outers” who have come out of abusive religions.
But after listening to Britt talking about so many things that I’ve been taught all my life, I thought I’d mention it, not to suggest that it’s for everyone, but because it’s sometimes a well-kept secret, and maybe some people reading this might find the information useful. I thought about saying more, but maybe I’ll just leave it there.
Except to recommend a passage I first heard read in the pulpit at my church. Google this to find it: “You want a physicist to speak at your funeral.”
Each week in my UU church, we say these words together: "Love is the spirit of this church and service is its law. This is our great covenant: to dwell together in peace, to seek the truth in love, and to help one another." - James Vila Blake
I've been thinking how John might appreciate Unitarian Universalism. It gives me a place where I can explore questions of morality, ethics, and values, a place to create and engage in rituals, a place where reason and science are valued, a place where we gather each week to build the beloved community.
When John talks about the good that Mormons get from their church, especially the community aspect, I just want to hug him and remind him that you can get all of those good things and more without the religious trauma. For me, I get them from my UU community.
I think "Spirituality: No Faith Required" could be a slogan for UUs. 😊
@@MichellePeterson1989 We say those words too
For the death deal, I tell ppl that there was a lot of time before I was born, and I’m none the worse for not having been conscious for it. I figure when I’m gone, it will be like that. Stoic philosophy is good for this also.
“I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it.”
Mark Twain
This is exceptionally good! I've listened to it 3 times now. Britt has clearly done the work and is so eloquent - I kept thinking how perfectly she phrased something that I had experienced. And I really appreciated Margi and John's input too from their own experiences, each so unique to them. Will definitely be buying the book when I get my next paycheck 😂
It makes such a difference in health once you reclaim spirituality for yourself.
Aww. I look forward to this so much. I’m a nevermo. But, I am deconstructing from Christianity. I was hurt so badly from organized religion, but I still believe strongly in a spiritual world. I feel best when I am not just a physical, intellectual and emotional person, but a spiritual person. I want to be in alignment with my true self and am figuring out what that means.
I’ve realized that I am nervous about anything litigious, judgmental or rule based. I, personally, support critical thinking and each person’s ability to decide their own beliefs about this topic.
I do miss church and community, but also don’t want to turn off my brain. Looking forward to hearing her story and getting her book on audible.
Excited for this episode, 33 years out of the church and recently discovered spirituality. I guess all my deconstruction has been worked through already though so not so much of a religious brain anymore. What I love about spirituality is there is no one path, everyone is on their own journey and what resonates for me might not resonate for you. Its okay to hold conflicting things at the same time, it's okay not to know if one of those ideas is right, all of them are right or none of them are right. The important thing is you are growing and expanding. What I will say is beware of spirituality meeting dogma, they are opposite sides of the same coin where spirituality is open and dogma closed. It is very easy to treat spirituality as dogma and I think that is one of the reasons there is a certain court case going on in idaho at the moment.
"There is no one path". Thank you for the re-assurance. I'm ex-mormon trying to make sense of so much fwd.
i've got a huge test this Friday, but I just bought the book on amazon! I'm so excited to read this! thanks for the work you're all doing in this space.
Escape From Freedom by Erich Fromm was a psychology book choice for a college class.
It opened my eyes to the fact that most of us would rather someone else make the decisions.
I’m so emotional 🥹 and excited already for this video and I’ve only been watching for a few minutes 😭😁
So much wisdom in this conversation. Thank you.
I am so enjoying this video and I just bought the book! Thank you for all you do!
Hands down your best guest!!! ❤❤❤
Outstanding program., getting people to stop believing people can be possessed by evil spirits..one step at a time. It is a process that takes time and so much thinking things through all the way to the end, to know that there are no such thing as evil spirits, except in one's own imagination.
I used to be terrified that I would be dead some day! Even when as a member of the church! I am connected to everything. No longer terrified. Trying to be present everyday! I get to be part of the ripple effect of humanity! I hope there’s something after but I don’t know! Only know what’s in front of me! AND….It’s fucking awesome!!!
fear of freedom was the hardest for me. having to learn what it is to really live when your whole life before was dedicated to service to others and it was your whole sense of worth...
Another excellent conversation with Brittney. Thank you!
Great conversation!
Excellent. Getting the book. Thank you Brittany.
I thought I would die on the hill of reading only physical copies of books but I recently started doing audiobooks and it is so much easier for me with my busy lifestyle. I can multi-task even. It is so hard for me to just sit down and read a book nowadays. TBH, I am more likely to fall asleep reading too. 😂😂 Audiobook is needed.
This is one of the most impactful interviews I’ve watched on this channel ❤
I often call chat GPT, therapy GPT. It is so so helpful as things pop up. It’s similar to talking to a hero or “my enlightened self” or a loved one in heaven, as it helps you connect with how you are feeling, how you perceive the world and what your true self feels.
Years ago an early Fidonet Exmormon philosopher Matt Berry wrote three small books on a similar subject. Self Behaviorism, A Human Strategy: Towards a genuine spirituality, and Deliberate Belief: Diary of a Religious Crisis. Theses were my anchors, when leaving the church. No internet at the time, just the Fidonet lists. But that is where I read Matt's insightful reasoning about leaving the Mormon church.
I'm going to read this book for sure ❤ I'm finding it difficult to deconstruct while keeping my spiritual beliefs and not going full on atheist, I know atheism is logical but I still want to keep a door open for possibilities while also trying to debunk everything (cause that's how science works 😂)
As a Survivor of 2 Near Death Experiences, Now you are Speaking My Language, Ever a Deep Seeker of Spiritual Truths and Higher Consciousness, but ever Distrustful of Man-made Organized 'Religions', withIn which Predator$ and Wolves in proverbial '$heep'$ 'clothing' often hide, ....from the Bottom of my Heart , I Thank you for this Episode !
NDE are fascinating. Im glad you’re still with us. How are you doing with the “coming back” twice?
I've been in several near death experiences. I'm still here because I have so many goals and dreams and God knows that so I'm still here until my karma is done completely
I love this. Thank you. I've witnessed the partial fall of patriarchy during my life time and the partial fall of its religions is gratifying.
This was one of my favorite shows. I just watched it though it probably was posted months ago. I was not raised in a religious household but this all made sense to me but I do have my own beliefs:) she’s very insightful:) Loved it:)
A great interview with a great individual. Much enjoyed the conversation. Very insightful and true. All the best. Book on order.
Ordered!
This book really sounds like the next thing in the normalizing of atheism. We've run the other direction of tossing it all. Now it's time for a rational look at the ubiquity of religion, take what we can learn from it, and take it to the next level for a more compassionate cooperative humanity.
I love your work, Britt!! Can't wait to read the book!! Thank you!! ❤❤
I tried to keep the Bible. After a few months…it all fell away
❤ same after a few years & recently I recently saw its all control of the mind, but i allow people to believe whatever they want.
Loved her MS, so happy to see this and wish her all the happiness, prosperity and success !
Religion makes people into finding letter of the law so you know how close to step to the line.
I love your bee analogy about finding meaning and purpose because you are in the world.
All I have left is Jesus! That’s all I have, iam heart broken, this podcast is so interesting and I have learned so much. Thank you
This was so good! so good!!!!
I wonder how many others had it like one parent was fundamentalist and the other was just negative about mysticism. It’s liberating to find yourself after that if you know the confusion of that too.
I just started the episode and I was wondering if anybody knows if this book is on audio? Injury leaves me with a very difficult time understanding what I read. Thank you. Hope it’s on audio.
We discussed! Coming later.
Great interview.
This is so helpful!
44:49 Hi Britt or podcast hosts or audiences. Can you please answer this question? If a person pray to themselves, would this be considered narcissism? Or would this be an exception to rule, and this narcissism of praying to ourselves be okay? Then again is some narcissism okay or is all narcissism bad?
I'm going to try the talk to your hero in your head thing.
my favorite person!!!!
Soo grateful for Britt! 😊😊😊
I try not to judge a book by its cover... I want to buy this book, but having a hard time with the cover. Can you rxplain the cover art so perhaps I can wrap my head around it...
This church is very confusing to me and I can’t visit my own family of there control
1:39:28 Wellness as a religion? Are any of you following Bryan Johnson, the ex-Mormon who has made it his goal to defeat death through healthful eating?
purchased!
I can’t find Brits other interview on Mormon stories 😢 I see shorts but not the full video. What’s the date?
It's under the 3 dots in the upper right hand corner & go to description & it'll have the episode # there!
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So helpful, Britt
So many views of reality to choose from. The two most common are: non-theistic in which all of creation is coincidental and without intention (science as religion), AND diety that is amorphous without passion condemning some and saving others. Then there's the view of a loving God as Heavenly parents who organized a noncompulsary means to progression in perpetuity. No matter which view you ascribe to, you run the risk of disappointment and humiliation in the here and now. And ALL of them demand some form of mental gymnastics.
Oh my goodness. I’m commenting again. But the comment about this being a religion built on blood sacrifice and how we can do better. Sheesh! Def
John refers to someone who made some curriculum. Who is it. Where is it. I can’t find the reference anymore.
Britt refers to it saying rather than re create it I’ll refer people to it..
What was the name of the podcast she recommended ?
If you don't know right from wrong you lack empathy not religion
Praise be to the Lord the great Flying Spaghetti Monster. Pray unto him in the name of Christopher Hitchens having faith in evolution & he will have the cosmic teapot pour out spiritual chamomile upon thy soul forevermore!
Ramen.
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John always makes sure he is not against people having faith. He does not bashes the Mormons as a cult. So it would be nice if you don’t use it the Lord but lord. Like lord of the rings, don’t disrespect others faith, not even if it is a cult. Many people as we can see find their own ways and wind up living, but that is very personal. Peace!
@@laurenmay2098 Millions have witness flying spaghetti in school cafeterias! What evidence do you have for your God? 😜🙏😜 Don't moch the one & only assended being, the ancient of spices!
@@laurenmay2098 Seriously, why should respect for your god or anyone else's gods trump respect for my God? I actually have evidence for sauces, Italian seasoning, spicy meatballs, noodles, parmesan & sharp cheddar. I have personally witnessed flying spaghetti in a food fight vision. The number of people who have witnessed flying spaghetti is far greater than the number of Mormons. Why should your faith trump ours? That's very disrespectful. Have you ever asked yourself, what if I'm wrong? Do you really want to risk no Italian seasoning in the next life? Jesus himself said, judge not that ye be not judged, for with the same judgement that ye judge ye shall be judged. Ramen 🍜 & Ramen 🍜🍜🍜
Audiobook?
Coming later!!!
Audible please, sweet person
Yes, was just going to request this ❤
Thank you for pointing out the horrible history of waging war from presidents on all sides of the spectrum.
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Hey hope your good Also sometimes I share this, the Bible says that GOD loves us so much that he sent his son JESUS CHRIST to this earth and HE lived a perfect sinless life.And JESUS went to a cross and gave HIS life for us.And rose again in 3 days and who ever will receive JESUS AS THEIR SAVIOR AND ASK HIM TO COME INTO THEIR HEART AND FORGIVE THEIR SINS,HE WILL TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN.
Animals face death all the time, without religion and seem to accept it.
There was a pandemic!! No one was ‘warring’!!
This jargon just boils down to religion vs science. I'd rather keep my faith (not necessarily religion) than believe in nothing exists outside of myself.
So Britt, what is your conversion story to Mormons in the first place? Didn't you 'pray' about some part of their religion to know it was right??? I mean... something persuade d you to join, right?
She was born into the cult. She was indoctrinated as a child.
Some do not have a choice. Some of us joined when we were little children with parents & to please parents & others are born into it.
I am in favor of you deciding when you are older. But many will be from birth. This is basically how life is, period. Try to go to India and talk about the sacrificing themselves in the river for a god cow or snake? Is not going to happen. You can’t stopped a person that is in the river coming what I see suicide and dedicating their death to this entity. I could not wrap my mind around this. Today I am okay with that, with some sorrow some times, but your life is your, do as you wish. Do not kill others, but your life is your to do whatever. Be free, freedom is the best.
Cool. But from loyalist to atheist?? A Me-ist? Mormonism to Meism?? No allegiance to anyone but your own self?? No standing the line between good and evil if there's a risk you could get hurt or even killed because no one's life if more important than yours?? No standing the line of freedom because you could get hurt or killed?? Let someone else fight for freedom?? That makes you proud, huh?
Don't be deceived by the spinning pizza monster of Hell's Kitchen, or you could become a Son of Pepperoni. The lord the great FSM is the one & only true spicy meatball delight. Ramen
Is she a claimed psychic?
Ah. The devil's playground...
Because xtianity is as mythical as Mormonism
No religion, no God, no priesthood power, more teachings of man with no need to be humble, or sacrifice for growth? BAHAHAHAHAHAH
The statement makes no sense. Try again.
You mentioned humility.... and then you laughed in caps at other peoples ideas
REVELATION 3:10,, THE TEST HOUR, SHALOM
REVELATION 18:4, COME OUT OF HER !!! SHALOM
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...authoritarian Jesus??? You people really need to learn the parable of the Talents and pray, ponder and pray some more to understand which servant you are and work to become the other two.
Maybe you need to listen to the podcast again. More objectively. They talked about their years of dedication and prayer. Maybe you should stop telling people how they should and shouldn't have a relationship with God or Jesus
Pay no heed to the jesus troll. They cant understand the depth.
🐦🔥❤ i noticed all religions really are one & the same! They Honestly realky say all the same thing:
"If you turn from "us" & Jesus (their Jesus) to another path, you have fallen to the evil w*cked ways of the world!" I found this is honestly in all beliefs, all religions! Honestly, it doesn't matter.
I agree! All these believers & religions do n0t care if you heal on your own time or not, they're all just want #s & I find if you don't heal first before finding another "faith" it honestly really does cause more h*rm & d*m*ge, than help to heal. The one who saved me when no one else was there for me 10+ years ago:
A white wiccan witch. The others were in nonsense! I acknowledge a higher power in my own way because i have no choice, but I'm so blessed not to follow crowds! ❤
Religious brain response
Yay for all of us who are no longer servants 😊❤