Exactly what I've been looking for ! Maybe u could make a video ranking all the possible upgrades for the delonghi dedica (and how well they work) . Changing the portafilter, installing a manometer, exchanging the steam wand etc..
Dear Tom, Thanks a lot for the very helpful tutorial. I had a dripping steam wand on my Dedica and was able to fix the problem by replacing the steam wand tap with a replacement part 😀
You did that already!:) That was my idea during last month when I got 865 in really like new condition but without steam wand and water knob for couple bucks in Value Village. It also has damaged inner connectors including steam valve, probably after serious dropped crash of the machine. Just can't find time to collect all parts and realize this project yet:) Thank you for this video guide and explanations, it will very helpful for me soon:)
I will update with the Rancilio wand. This seems like a further-complicated option that at least for my model ec680 would do fine since I can buy the Rancilio wand at Amazon for a less expensive amount. It was fun to watch tough.
Hi Tom! do you know if it's possible to keep good pressure for the steam wand, in a delonghi dedica which has installed a manometer? I'm doing this project and I'm loosing some pressure by using the arte steam wand. I have also shorten the spring of the valve and the espresso keeps the presure between 8 to 9,5 bars. Thank you for the channel, very useful :)
Hi Tom, I wonder if you could let me know the diameter: - an outer hose supplying steam from the valve to the new wand (seen at 0:20). - the nipple of the old valve on which the hose of the old wand is placed (seen at 5:57). I'm thinking of using (instead of replacing the steam valve) an adapter connecting the wires of the old and new wand. I tried to connect both hoses by putting the old one on the sleeve at the end of the new wand's hose, but despite the clamp, the connection is leaky. Unfortunately, the coffee machine belongs to my daughter, and she cannot cope with such measurements. I would like to buy the appropriate parts before I go to her to fix the steam leak. I will be grateful for your help.
Inspection revealed that the leak came from the water tank's outlet rather than from the joining of those two hoses. I replaced the original spring clip with a jubilee one, though. For the record, diameters of: - stiff hose coming from the new wand is 4mm - brass sleeve is 7mm - silicone hose (old one) are 5 and 9mm, respectively internal and external - the steam valve's nozzle (old one) is 5.5mm
Hi Tom, Many thanks for the guide. It was just what I needed for my EC680. The machine is even a bit less loud now. I noticed on the website you linked to that they have a new crema valve. Would you recommend changing that too? Best regards
Sticking with a DeLonghi wand gets you a cleaner aesthetic and a cool-touch wand, but the mod is more expensive than a simple Rancilio-style wand. Considerably more so, depending on where you live. The cheapest I can get the steam valve is > €30 with shipping and unless I can find a local source for the o-ring and clip, those will add nearly €20, bringing the grand total to right around €85. Considering I can pick up a brand new EC885 (which is what my EC685 would become with this mod) for €170 right now and get not only a brand new machine with full warranty, but also a steam pitcher and a metal tamper, that seems like a very high price. In comparison, the Rancilio-style mod can be done for less than €30 with shipping where I live.
Thank you for all the great in depth videos. Do you know if this mod is possible on the ECP3630? it was pretty straight forward installing the rancillio steam wand but im wondering if I would run into an issue connecting the arte wand to this steam valve. Would love to hear your input.
Can you please convert the De'Longhi Magnifica S ECAM 22.110.B to improve its steam wand? This affordable automatic machine would greatly benefit from a steam wand upgrade.
I simply cut away the white tube with a knife and connected the existing tube like it was done with the Rancilio mod. Works without problems since five months and you don't need any extra parts.
There was somebody asking how exactly I did this. Cannot find the comment anymore, but basically I cut the white plastic tube on the newly released steam wand for the 865 directly befind the metal part and used one of Tom's previous tutorials on the Rancilo steam wand (ruclips.net/video/aQqeI2kJZJ4/видео.htmlsi=wyZEqjpym5PtZe_k) to install it.
Is there any espresso + milk frother machine that has entirely stainless steel (no plastic) components in the brew path? The water tank is okay to be plastic, I’m just concerned about the parts that get hot. Thank you!
Thanks for the review. My 12 year old nespresso machine has died, and now I'm debating on getting either another convenient nespresso machine or an espresso machine of a similar price (below £200). I'm sure I would eventuality buy a non pressurised portafilter, but I would still like to know iff this machine will produce nicer coffee using the included portafilter than a nespresso machine? (I have a decent grinder) Also, do you really have to weigh the coffee every time, as that looks a pain, especially if your making espresso's for 2, 3 or 4 people? Lastly; will a non pressurised portafilter be able to pour coffee into two cups at once? And is the drip tray wide enough for those two cups? Thank you.
wait a minute, I just had a fight with my Dedica to change the steam wand with your video from years ago and just now you show us another upgrade! just kidding, I love your DIY videos
Hi Tom, another great video! Will you be reviewing the clip on steam nozzle for EC680/685 by CittaLalage. I came across it recently but couldn't find any review videos on it.
The upgraded DeLonghi wand is a "cool touch" wand, meaning that the outer metal doesn't get hot enough to burn your fingers or cause the milk to stick. The latter makes cleaning a bit easier. In terms of steaming performance, there is no difference. It's basically just a Rancilio-style wand with an extra outer casing thermally isolated from the inner metal tube.
Hi Tom, I just did this mod on my ec685 and when I'm working the milk the noise from the wand is 20 times louder than the default wand. Is this normal?.
Bonjour Tom, j'espère que mon message sera correctement traduit. J'ai une Delonghi dédica arte depuis 11 mois, avec filtre simple ( bec et botomless). Je l'ai récemment associée à un moulin nuova simonelli grinta. Auriez-vous un plan pour changer le porte tasse, créer quelque chose comme les machines expresso pro ou on a la contenance pour bien rincer sa machine. Avec un porte tasse avec un grillage ? Merci pour toutes vos vidéos. Un passionné d'expresso, café turc et autres
Recently I have a problem with my dedica. It doesn't have strong enough steam pressure to create a vortex in the milk. The milk comes out warm with no microfoam What could be the cause of this?
Good Video but I'd rather buy the 885 instead, because I dont think I would manage to do this kind of technical upgrade by myself. Unfortunatly, the 885 doesnt come in black, which is my color of choice so I currently stick with the 685 and use the cable tie hack.
Thanks, Tom. I did not watch the review of EC680 model. I imagine the steam wand was terrible. Why not add a 60 seconds clip with original wand to demonstrate the gain? I found this previous video of yours to help others like me understand the gain: ruclips.net/video/G-GeZ9fbajw/видео.html
Tom is using the wand in the "beginner" mode in that video. The very first EC680 didn't have the "hot milk" setting, only the "cappuccino" setting. The latter pulls in lots of air and makes steaming milk simpler, but you get horrible results. If you switch to the "hot milk" setting (which the machine in his video has, but he isn't using it), the extra air intake is blocked and the steaming works like a "real" wand, just a bit weak because the hole that the steam comes out of is too large. There is just enough power to get a vortex going, so you can do perfectly textured steamed milk with it.
@@kniels2856 Thanks for added info on EC680 versions. The video I referenced also makes the demonstration of an "advanced" mode with a hacked wand: ruclips.net/video/G-GeZ9fbajw/видео.html
Thank you for your feedback. It probably would’ve made this video better to have included a before and after, you are right about that. This has been a highly requested video, ever since the EC885 came out. But I guess I might have overestimated how many people know what the difference will be between the stock wand and this one. You can see it however in the basic mode of the review I did on the EC 685.
@@jeanletourneau9642 Yeah, the problem with removing the outer wand and just using the silicone spout is that the fit is not entirely consistent across machines. On some (including mine, but not my parents'), it will pop off while steaming. I have seen some people solve this problem by using a cable tie, but that is just more ugly than I am willing to accept in my kitchen. Also, the "hot milk" setting really does work very well. It does take a little bit more practice to get a good vortex going, but for standard pitcher sizes, it's fine and can produce perfectly textured milk.
Hı, I have a Kingrinder k6 grinder, at what setting, how many grams of coffee should I use for espresso, my machine is dedica ec885, double nonpressure basket and bottomless portafilter.
Hi, I've got a Kingrinder K6 and a Dedica as well and my Espresso setting is inbetween 0.28 and 0.32 clicks and 16 gram of coffee in a double nonpressure basket. My ratio is mostly 16 in and 40 out
Hi there, I have the exact same setup. Setting depends on the beans you are using. For me and the beans that I've used in the past I range anywhere from 38 to 48 clicks for espresso using a bottomless portafilter (so not a pressurised basket). You can then test from there
I also have a k-6. Mine (and probably all of them) go about 10 clicks below zero. I have mine set around 28 based, just below the 30-mark on the grinder, which is about 40 clicks from "absolute zero". I learned the "gentle tamp" by watching Tom because if I tamp with 30 pounds pressure my Gaggia CP won't reliably pass the water thru the grounds. I usually go bottomless. When in doubt about my grind, I use the pressurized basket. I don't make milk drinks. I like mine super-long (Americano sort of) so I use about 16-18 grams of beanz which yields a shot weighing 90- 100 grams.
Thank you everyone for your answers. I couldn't see any information about it on the channel, but there are kingrinder promotions. I got my grinder today, I ordered fresh beans and I'm waiting for it. I start at 48 and decrease it in the 25-30 seconds range until I reach a ratio of 1:2 to 1:2.5. I asked because I wanted to waste less coffee.
You definitely should do a final test with milk, I promise you'll be upset, because this machine doesn't have enough pressure to whip the milk with this type of steamer
Exactly what I've been looking for ! Maybe u could make a video ranking all the possible upgrades for the delonghi dedica (and how well they work) . Changing the portafilter, installing a manometer, exchanging the steam wand etc..
Dear Tom,
Thanks a lot for the very helpful tutorial. I had a dripping steam wand on my Dedica and was able to fix the problem by replacing the steam wand tap with a replacement part 😀
Excellent video! I’d rather use the oem wand over the Rancilio wand. Nice upgrade for those that have the older Dedica models.
You did that already!:) That was my idea during last month when I got 865 in really like new condition but without steam wand and water knob for couple bucks in Value Village. It also has damaged inner connectors including steam valve, probably after serious dropped crash of the machine. Just can't find time to collect all parts and realize this project yet:) Thank you for this video guide and explanations, it will very helpful for me soon:)
Tom, love these DIY upgrade videos. I'm sure they'll do very well. Keep them coming!
Absolutely genius, Tom! Thank you! Exactly what I was looking for for my Dedica!
SEE! Your videos are the BEST TOM! LOVE IT! THANK YOU VERY MUCH! YOU SAVED us a tonnnne of work and figuring out.
Very cool! I don’t think I would have the patience to do all of that at my old age. It was fun watching you do it however. 😊☕️
Bravo! hai fatto un lavoro eccellente!!!
I will update with the Rancilio wand. This seems like a further-complicated option that at least for my model ec680 would do fine since I can buy the Rancilio wand at Amazon for a less expensive amount. It was fun to watch tough.
Ec680 can change Boil brewing?
That looks like the same ball on the boiler machines. Would you recommend this over the Ranacilio mod? The higher pressure steam would be great.
Hi Tom! do you know if it's possible to keep good pressure for the steam wand, in a delonghi dedica which has installed a manometer? I'm doing this project and I'm loosing some pressure by using the arte steam wand. I have also shorten the spring of the valve and the espresso keeps the presure between 8 to 9,5 bars. Thank you for the channel, very useful :)
Hi Tom,
I wonder if you could let me know the diameter:
- an outer hose supplying steam from the valve to the new wand (seen at 0:20).
- the nipple of the old valve on which the hose of the old wand is placed (seen at 5:57).
I'm thinking of using (instead of replacing the steam valve) an adapter connecting the wires of the old and new wand. I tried to connect both hoses by putting the old one on the sleeve at the end of the new wand's hose, but despite the clamp, the connection is leaky.
Unfortunately, the coffee machine belongs to my daughter, and she cannot cope with such measurements. I would like to buy the appropriate parts before I go to her to fix the steam leak.
I will be grateful for your help.
Inspection revealed that the leak came from the water tank's outlet rather than from the joining of those two hoses. I replaced the original spring clip with a jubilee one, though.
For the record, diameters of:
- stiff hose coming from the new wand is 4mm
- brass sleeve is 7mm
- silicone hose (old one) are 5 and 9mm, respectively internal and external
- the steam valve's nozzle (old one) is 5.5mm
Hi Tom,
Many thanks for the guide. It was just what I needed for my EC680. The machine is even a bit less loud now.
I noticed on the website you linked to that they have a new crema valve.
Would you recommend changing that too?
Best regards
Do you think that this is better than using the Rancillio wand?
Sticking with a DeLonghi wand gets you a cleaner aesthetic and a cool-touch wand, but the mod is more expensive than a simple Rancilio-style wand. Considerably more so, depending on where you live. The cheapest I can get the steam valve is > €30 with shipping and unless I can find a local source for the o-ring and clip, those will add nearly €20, bringing the grand total to right around €85.
Considering I can pick up a brand new EC885 (which is what my EC685 would become with this mod) for €170 right now and get not only a brand new machine with full warranty, but also a steam pitcher and a metal tamper, that seems like a very high price.
In comparison, the Rancilio-style mod can be done for less than €30 with shipping where I live.
I like it better, yes. The Rancilio is hard to clean...
Thank you. I think there a diffenrent Versions of Steams Wands? Not everyone replaces the valve i think...
Thank you for all the great in depth videos. Do you know if this mod is possible on the ECP3630? it was pretty straight forward installing the rancillio steam wand but im wondering if I would run into an issue connecting the arte wand to this steam valve. Would love to hear your input.
Can you please convert the De'Longhi Magnifica S ECAM 22.110.B to improve its steam wand? This affordable automatic machine would greatly benefit from a steam wand upgrade.
I simply cut away the white tube with a knife and connected the existing tube like it was done with the Rancilio mod. Works without problems since five months and you don't need any extra parts.
There was somebody asking how exactly I did this. Cannot find the comment anymore, but basically I cut the white plastic tube on the newly released steam wand for the 865 directly befind the metal part and used one of Tom's previous tutorials on the Rancilo steam wand (ruclips.net/video/aQqeI2kJZJ4/видео.htmlsi=wyZEqjpym5PtZe_k) to install it.
Hello,
You mean that you put the tube from the steam wand inside the tube from the valve?
Greetings!
Hi, i saw the last video with you changing the steam wand to the one from ranchillo. How does this compare to the ranchillo ? Regards from denmark
@@eenig8730 I like this one better, because it is easier to clean, and it is non-burn.
@TomsCoffeeCorner thanks for the answer. What do you Mean by non-burn ?
which is better, this one or the Rancilio wand?
Hey tom im planning on getting either a Hibrew h10a or a dedica what should i get? without the ergonomic standpoint or space.
Is there any espresso + milk frother machine that has entirely stainless steel (no plastic) components in the brew path? The water tank is okay to be plastic, I’m just concerned about the parts that get hot. Thank you!
Hi Tom, thanks for the video, how does your dedica steam wand work without the portafilter? On my machine steam just goes out of the group
Thanks for the review.
My 12 year old nespresso machine has died, and now I'm debating on getting either another convenient nespresso machine or an espresso machine of a similar price (below £200). I'm sure I would eventuality buy a non pressurised portafilter, but I would still like to know iff this machine will produce nicer coffee using the included portafilter than a nespresso machine? (I have a decent grinder)
Also, do you really have to weigh the coffee every time, as that looks a pain, especially if your making espresso's for 2, 3 or 4 people?
Lastly; will a non pressurised portafilter be able to pour coffee into two cups at once? And is the drip tray wide enough for those two cups?
Thank you.
wait a minute, I just had a fight with my Dedica to change the steam wand with your video from years ago and just now you show us another upgrade!
just kidding, I love your DIY videos
@@crinsowc9010 Haha, people were asking for this video, so I finally made it. I hope it will help some people. Cheers!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner what's the difference between the older video with the Rancilio wand and this one?
How can you have screews so clean.
Mine inside screws are all oxydated by steam.
Thanks for the video ! You’re the best !
Aside from the cleaning of the wand, do you consider it is a big upgrade compared to the rancilio V2 ?
There is no stock for the Steam Wand on Ebay.
I've found the wand with part number AS00004894.....I'm assuming it will fit as well...the question is if I really need the other valve?
Hi Tom, another great video! Will you be reviewing the clip on steam nozzle for EC680/685 by CittaLalage. I came across it recently but couldn't find any review videos on it.
Thank you! No, I don't think so. It hasn't worked very well for me to be honest.
I have a UK dedica machine, wil I still be able to use the steam valve you’ve recommended?
Does anyone have US links for cheap o-ring and clip?
Great video as always
But I wonder, what’s the main advantage of this steam wand over the generic ones?
The upgraded DeLonghi wand is a "cool touch" wand, meaning that the outer metal doesn't get hot enough to burn your fingers or cause the milk to stick. The latter makes cleaning a bit easier. In terms of steaming performance, there is no difference. It's basically just a Rancilio-style wand with an extra outer casing thermally isolated from the inner metal tube.
It’s a no burn steam wand, making it easier to clean, and I like the design better.
I love your mod videos. Your the coffee doc brown 😎👍🏽☕️
Haha, thanks!
@@TomsCoffeeCorner you have taught me so much! Thank you sir!!!
Is it worth to void your warranty for this mod? I really want that steam wand, but I also think warranty is valuable
My warranty was long over. Each person has to decide for themselves. Cheers!
Hello! Loved your video, do you happen to know if the wand for the ec260 is replaceable? If so, can you make a tutorial please!! 😁😁
Would this work on a stilosa? Do you know if the Arte steam wand can be fit to the Stilosa?
@@adamharris5003 sorry, I don’t think it will, at least not with these parts. I would have to see if I could find an adapter for that.
Hi Tom, I just did this mod on my ec685 and when I'm working the milk the noise from the wand is 20 times louder than the default wand.
Is this normal?.
Why would one do this in the first place? I’ve just ordered an EC685. What’s wrong with the original steam wand? Thanks.
Nice job! But is it worth it? What about rancilio steam wand users?
I just did it to see if I could. I like it better than the Rancilio for sure. Cheers!
Does this work on the stilosa by any chance?
I would love to know too! The rancilio steam wand is kinda difficult to clean sometimes. Would be great if this mod works on the stilosa
Bonjour Tom, j'espère que mon message sera correctement traduit. J'ai une Delonghi dédica arte depuis 11 mois, avec filtre simple ( bec et botomless). Je l'ai récemment associée à un moulin nuova simonelli grinta. Auriez-vous un plan pour changer le porte tasse, créer quelque chose comme les machines expresso pro ou on a la contenance pour bien rincer sa machine. Avec un porte tasse avec un grillage ? Merci pour toutes vos vidéos. Un passionné d'expresso, café turc et autres
Thank's Tom!
Recently I have a problem with my dedica.
It doesn't have strong enough steam pressure to create a vortex in the milk.
The milk comes out warm with no microfoam
What could be the cause of this?
@@bingo303 I would try doing a thorough descaling and then trying again.
Good Video but I'd rather buy the 885 instead, because I dont think I would manage to do this kind of technical upgrade by myself. Unfortunatly, the 885 doesnt come in black, which is my color of choice so I currently stick with the 685 and use the cable tie hack.
Now you just have to mod it with a Chinese PID!
Wait, there's a PID mod for the Dedica?
Once my warranty ends I will apport this modification
Thanks, Tom. I did not watch the review of EC680 model. I imagine the steam wand was terrible. Why not add a 60 seconds clip with original wand to demonstrate the gain? I found this previous video of yours to help others like me understand the gain: ruclips.net/video/G-GeZ9fbajw/видео.html
Tom is using the wand in the "beginner" mode in that video. The very first EC680 didn't have the "hot milk" setting, only the "cappuccino" setting. The latter pulls in lots of air and makes steaming milk simpler, but you get horrible results. If you switch to the "hot milk" setting (which the machine in his video has, but he isn't using it), the extra air intake is blocked and the steaming works like a "real" wand, just a bit weak because the hole that the steam comes out of is too large. There is just enough power to get a vortex going, so you can do perfectly textured steamed milk with it.
@@kniels2856 Thanks for added info on EC680 versions. The video I referenced also makes the demonstration of an "advanced" mode with a hacked wand: ruclips.net/video/G-GeZ9fbajw/видео.html
Thank you for your feedback. It probably would’ve made this video better to have included a before and after, you are right about that. This has been a highly requested video, ever since the EC885 came out. But I guess I might have overestimated how many people know what the difference will be between the stock wand and this one. You can see it however in the basic mode of the review I did on the EC 685.
@@jeanletourneau9642 Yeah, the problem with removing the outer wand and just using the silicone spout is that the fit is not entirely consistent across machines. On some (including mine, but not my parents'), it will pop off while steaming. I have seen some people solve this problem by using a cable tie, but that is just more ugly than I am willing to accept in my kitchen. Also, the "hot milk" setting really does work very well. It does take a little bit more practice to get a good vortex going, but for standard pitcher sizes, it's fine and can produce perfectly textured milk.
Hı, I have a Kingrinder k6 grinder, at what setting, how many grams of coffee should I use for espresso, my machine is dedica ec885, double nonpressure basket and bottomless portafilter.
Hi, I've got a Kingrinder K6 and a Dedica as well and my Espresso setting is inbetween 0.28 and 0.32 clicks and 16 gram of coffee in a double nonpressure basket. My ratio is mostly 16 in and 40 out
Hi there, I have the exact same setup. Setting depends on the beans you are using. For me and the beans that I've used in the past I range anywhere from 38 to 48 clicks for espresso using a bottomless portafilter (so not a pressurised basket). You can then test from there
I also have a k-6. Mine (and probably all of them) go about 10 clicks below zero. I have mine set around 28 based, just below the 30-mark on the grinder, which is about 40 clicks from "absolute zero". I learned the "gentle tamp" by watching Tom because if I tamp with 30 pounds pressure my Gaggia CP won't reliably pass the water thru the grounds. I usually go bottomless. When in doubt about my grind, I use the pressurized basket. I don't make milk drinks. I like mine super-long (Americano sort of) so I use about 16-18 grams of beanz which yields a shot weighing 90- 100 grams.
Thank you everyone for your answers. I couldn't see any information about it on the channel, but there are kingrinder promotions. I got my grinder today, I ordered fresh beans and I'm waiting for it. I start at 48 and decrease it in the 25-30 seconds range until I reach a ratio of 1:2 to 1:2.5. I asked because I wanted to waste less coffee.
@@ferhankayaoglu I did a review on the K4 a while back. And Coffee Nerd Aaron did a real nice review on the K6. Cheers!
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You definitely should do a final test with milk, I promise you'll be upset, because this machine doesn't have enough pressure to whip the milk with this type of steamer
@@smilingcat3187 check here: ruclips.net/video/aWIaqS6JDY8/видео.htmlsi=GJVVBuPESReKwlE2