I ordered the D7 Pro just before Lone Rider showed his product. Fortunately I still could return the D7 Pro and order the Lone Rider lights. They look fantastic ❤
I will still never understand reviewers who do a review of lights in the daytime but won't do it at night, I mean, common sense should dictate that the only way to demonstrating all the "features" and advantages will be at night and all reviewers do it. Review lights during the day
Hi there and thanks for commenting. There are loads of reviews at night time for the Denali D7’s, D7 pros etc These lights are incredibly powerful and rated globally as the most powerful lights on the market. This isn’t about that - it’s about features and showcasing the differences between the two models. We will be doing more videos later in the year.
They will do once the brackets are finalised But you can use them with the R1300 MotoCan and use the engine bar clamps to get started! I have the new 1300GSA on order so I’ll let you know
hi. do you have anything showing what the lone-rider beam looks like at night. i am especially interested in the lower 4 leds - can i run them all the time or would it upset oncoming traffic?
Great video and thanks much for the comparison. I have a follow up question. If i were to get the Lonerider bundle with Motocan, can i still use the other 2 of 3 circuits for a Denali Soundbomb horn and B6 brake lights ? I ask as I’ve read the other way on Denali’s Cansmart is not compatible for non Denali products.
Hi and thank you for watching the video and commenting Great news - the other three circuits are yours to use as you wish - I have already used the others for a Soundbomb and b6 brake light
Great video and well worth watching. I've recently taken delivery of the MotoLights. I've also ordered a pair of Denali T3 rear pods. As I understand it, you can add up to 16 accessories onto the white ezBUS circuit, as long as you don't exceed the maximum draw. I going to try to daisy-chain the T3's onto the white ezBUS circuit with an additional Y-splitter. If that doesn't work, I still have the three spare ports on the MotoCAN (ezCAN).
Great video. Re: the motolights: I m probably missing something, how to activate the spot lights? I can see you can go full beam (beast mode) then wide, then ring light, but how to activate the spot lights?? Thanks a lot
Hello together A great comparison of the two auxiliary headlights. But I have another question: which windscreen is fitted to the GS? Greetings from Greece
The two sets of spotlights you installed are theoretically not enough for one set of controllers. Do you have two ezcan controllers installed on your motorcycle?
Lights are good to use at night. It seems really odd to do a comparison of lights without doing a comparison of lights....at night. I was seriously considering the new Motolights but after watching the release videos a few times I realised that the beam pattern is really relatively tight. I use a pair of Baja Designs XL80s on my R1250GS which have an amazingly broad beam with more than adequate reach. Here in Australia where Skippy often makes an appearance width of beam is paramount.
I think u should do a video short video of the lights at night, comparing both lights, if u can do this much extensive work, going that light extra mile for the channel gets u that boost. And people can make up their minds fully on what to pick. Since u have both of them.
Hello, I’ve been looking for a comparison between these two products since the Lone Rider hit the market. I came across your video, and it’s the most realistic, honest, and detailed one I’ve seen so far. Thank you for that.! However, there is still one topic that remains unclear to me. The Denali D7 fills the sides of the road significantly when at 20% brightness in DRL mode. But the performance of the Lone Rider at night with 20% DRL is still a mystery. I would greatly appreciate it if you could make a video on this topic when you have time. Thank you in advance.
Thank you for your feedback and comment I appreciate that and glad it was good for you. The LoneRiders have a fantastic pattern with the lower four floodlights and their purpose and design is to do just that - flood the floor in front and around you - we have plans for some detailed videos coming soon….
Awesome breakdown, and thanks. But I would like to know this, I am thinking, instead of having other smaller lights added to either of D7 Pros, or Lone rider, can one have both of them on a bike at the same time just as the same set up u have.? Was hoping u were going to touch on that.
Yes, absolutely however you will need to upgrade your alternator lol having both these lights on at 100% will cause your battery to struggle….. Honestly . You won’t need both at all
We have personalise this set up so the bottom Four only come on at dusk or darker situations at 10% but you can personalise and set yours up however you like as well
@@MidlandsMotorbikers I don't want it ON at dusk necessarily as I also ride around town and just the DRL looks better for that but during rides I want to turn on the wide beam from switch gear. Is this possible?
@ ah yes you can with the OEM BMW wonderwheel Hold it left for 3seconds to enter adjustment mode and then spin the wheel forwards or backwards adjust the lights intensity by 10% steps
@@MidlandsMotorbikersthis is the exact same question that I had, and I’m sure others will be wondering the same. It’d still be good to see some sort of definitive clarification with regards to controlling the function of the lights when on the move. How’s it all done? Many thanks 👍🏻
Very comparable between the two, the quality and the focus of the brand are perfect and give you exactly what you want/need as and when you need it I will say the MotoLights have more control over the beam patterns
I've got a set of the Motolights sitting in the garage waiting to be installed on my R1300GS, and the mechanics of the installation don't look too bad. However, the computer/software aspect looks beyond my capabilities. Sure wish i had someone like you for assistance here in the US. 😀
The hex easy can is bike specific. Does that mean the moto can is also bike specific? I like the idea of only using one wire aswell. I wasn’t sure on the moto lights with the amber daytime lights but then you switched it to white. Decisions decisions 🙈
Yes, just like the EZCan it will be Bike specific I am like you and I love the ability to switch between Amber and White for the DRL I think for someone who wants both fog lights and spotlights, this is a great solution
Hi Darren you will need either a MotoCan Controller or the EZCan controller (Gen2) that uses the EZBus white white Currently the Denali CanSmart Controller doesn’t have the EZBuz function yet Contact us for more information on ShinySideUpvalet@gmail.com
Good comparison review, I got in quick for the 2nd batch of lone rider motolights Motocan & under nose mount for £699! Way Better lights imo & way better price than the Denalis £1120! need to wait till December though to get them 😮
Great video and very informative. As you were explaining the lights I was thinking the moto lights seemed a better option purely in terms of functionality.
Thanks for this very useful comparison. As a Triumph Tiger 1200 owner. I've few questions: (1) are all features of Motolights, including the beam increase as the bike speed increases, exploitable by the Hezcan for Triumph, or the Motolights Motocan is needed? (2) does a crashbar mount for Triumph exist? (3) Is the Motocan compatible with others brands accessories, including Denali Soundbombs, etc..?
Hello and thank you for commenting! I am happy to confirm we have various solutions for you but it will depend on the exact model and year of your bike as to what we can offer for you. GREAT NEWS - If there is a MotoCan / EZCan for your make and model then all of the features will work on your bike yes! Please feel free to email us at shinysideupvalet@gmail.comfor more information
Although they may work, they won’t have any additional functions. They are designed to work with the controller (MotoCan) so you can achieve the functions (DRL, Indicators, full beam etc)
I want some lights with an easy to use strobe or flashing feature to aid visibility when lane splitting in traffic. What are my easiest options? Ps: I dont do much night riding right now.
Hi, you should provide a real test review of the MotoLights, so we can really appreciate what those new pods can do compared to the D7Pro or 2 pairs of smaller 3-inch pods equivalent in wattage. I personally went with 2 pairs of pods to have a better beam orientation.
This will be coming soon, however after having two sets of light pods before and then switching to the MotoLights, I can promise that the MotoLights pods are all you need I would go far as to say that the standard D7 pods give a fuller light pattern than the D7 Pros
@@MidlandsMotorbikers What do you mean by "fuller" pattern ? More Flood or more spot (throw)? Also, which pods model did you use before switching to D7?
I would even say that to unveil the full potential of the D7 Pro it takes not 3 but 4 channels. Mine are mounted like that anyway. Recap : If you use the four white lights only on both side as DRL, and use the full power (yellow + white) as high beam, so far so good, it takes two channels only if it is all you want to do. On top of this if you want the yellow light ones to flash on one side when the turn signal is on (and the white ones stay on on both sides as DRL or full beam), then it takes 3 channels all together. In this setting the flashing yellow turn signal is unfortunately diluted into the white lights. Or else with the same setting (3 channels) you can also decide to cancel both DRL (or full beam) on both sides when turning to make the yellow turn signal show up better. But then you are blind and not seen any more as you don’t have any D7 pro lights on except for the yellow ones on one side. Here comes the bonus of 4 channels; when the turn signal is activated on one side, the 3 yellow horizontal lights flash AND the 4 white ones are cancelled, whereas on the other side the DRL or full beam status stays on. This gives you a very sharp and better noticeable turn signal on the turning side, while keeping the DRL or the full beam on on the other side. I hope this makes sense.
Thank you for commenting - currently you can only fit the Denali lights on your bike but as the Tiger doesn't have a Canbus controller available for it, you will only be able to control them with a switch or DialDim unit. We are happy to discus your options if you email us at shinysideupvalet@gmail.com
I dunno... Clearwater lights have some *insane* specimens that throw wild amounts of light. Not to say any of these are bad but I'm not sure claiming they're categorically the best is correct. Their five-inch 10000+ lumen each Super Sevina for instance is brutal, or the Dixi which has both a long-range spot and a broader driving beam.
Clearwater lights are still the best in its class, beats any Denali lineup hands down but have the worst marketing and online budget on the earth, even sand sellls faster, better and have more reach than Clearwater. It's as if the guys there only want to sell to folks 4kms from them. Clearwater remains the #1
Point from me: manufacturers miss this part of the market where we ride retro bikes... we still want good aux lights but covered by a 60'-70's looking blurry glass. Imagine BMW R18 with these ultra modern looking leds it will clash
Need to know what works best riding at night in dipped beam that won't blind incoming cars. Don't care about being seen, all about seeing without dazzling others.
@@MidlandsMotorbikers actually its a car fog light .. and I have custom fitted into my bike . i found out that its better than Morimoto Bi-LED and JW Speakers evo series.. i was using Morimoto bixenon from 2009 ... the AES was inferior product in the Bixenon era but the new AES bi-LED Laser are so good . the low beams are so wide with perfect cutoff and the high beams are exceptionally good... the Clearwater light even cant match the Morimoto Bi-LED so I am quite confident that D7 pro cant match new gen Bi-LED Laser ..
Hi there. I don't comment usually, but this time, I'll make an exception. From my point of view, having the D4's from Denali for at least 5 years, mounted on a RT I'll have to add that even the Lone Rider lights might be brighter they still lack many useful futures ... Please correct me if I'm wrong but they are not working with the BMW control wheel, you'll have to have a different switch mounted on the handlebar. The 3 times flash won't trigger the flashing from the additional lights (as Denali does), the same story when you're using the horn it won't trigger the flashing additional lights (as Denali). Only these 2 future alone saved me from a couple of accidents in the city. Another aspect is that it is not completely true what you've mentioned regarding Denali and their connectivity. For example, the horn is connecting directly on the original harness of BMW, so it won't take any other place. I had the horn installed (but the new RT has one as powerful as Denali, so I didn't changed it). I have the 2 D4's installed with the special brackets under the mirrors and the auxiliary brake light, and i recommend it, and i still have place left for additional lights. Another point (if I'm not wrong) you can use the Y cable from Denali and connect left and right additional lights in one slot. Please note that I have the first generation of the Denali D4's and controller box, which doesn't have as many options as the latest one. Also, they are not prepared for RT's ... there is no special mount for it. I hope you won't take my comment in a bad way, I really like the LoneRider lights, but I think Denali are more like an all purpose kind of lights while LoneRider are more like Off-Road (or only you on the road situation, which to be fair is like 10% of the riding time). Best regards
Your assumptions are as wrong as they can be. Denali CANsmart, the controller, is an OEM version of the HEX ezCAN. So is the Lone Rider MotoCAN. So you can program in the same "flash on pass", "flash on horn", etc. No extra switches. The only difference between the three is that the CANsmart comes with more cables in the box, and has a higher price. Plus Denali at the moment says they do not support the new HexBUS that Lone Rider uses, but I think they actually do. I upgraded one, and it is there in the application. (No surprise, as they all use the same software. The resource library contains different logos and icons, that are chosen based on what brand of controller you connect to the computer.)
Hello and firstly thank you for your comment and asking the questions - this may also help clear up some confusion for any other people watching/reading… The Denali lights you currently have will be using the Cansmart controller, which is a controller built and designed by Hex Innovate. This same design and controller system is used in the Hex EZCan and now the MotoCan controllers. So, to answer your first point - they will have the same functionality as your current set up and also more additional features. I will agree the strobe function on the flash to pass and horn is a fantastic feature! The SoundBomb horn you have installed can also be installed inline with the original OEM horn if you wish but works out more expensive to do it that way as requires a plug and play harness - if you were to add your SoundBomb onto the controller then you will twin link both horns together to create a fantastic “train horn” result. You mentioned about the Y-Split cable, which is a standard way to install the lights, but with the newer controllers you have the ability of having a left and right channel so you can request the left lights to flash (or go out) when indicating. This is a great feature to have when you have the amber lens’s installed and will create an additional indicator (more visibility = more information for other road users). However if you are happy with the pair of lights to operate “as one” then the y-split cable will be a great option. The MotoLights are fully certified to be road legal and will both enhance your visibility and cause you to be seen better, I would say they are MORE suited for on road usage with the addition of the DRL as indicators and the super strong beam patters for the road and path ahead of you. Both Denali and LoneRider have amazing auxiliary light solutions and there are other brands that are becoming bigger and better as well - we are still an advocate for any/all additional lighting is better than nothing so it just comes down to personal preference. If you have any more questions, then I would be happy to answer them for you, Kind regards, James
@@MidlandsMotorbikers Another advantage of connecting the SoundBomb to the ezCAN/x/x, is that you can program in a delay. So a short press on the button gives the friendly little beep, and a longer press gives the annoying bicyclist a heart attack. Granted, you do get some of the effect by using the stock horn wire to trigger a relay in parallel due to the inherent delay of the compressor, but you loose the really useful light flashing.
My thoughts? You want my thoughts? Where the heck are the night shots? They’re lights - and this is a “review”. How did you not compare them AT NIGHT?? 🤔
Do i have a bike that I could put these lights on? No. Did I still watch the entire video. Yes.
That’s a compliment - we will take it!
The best over explanation I have seen on RUclips. Can't wait to take delivery of my Moto lights next month 😊
Glad it was helpful for you - we are fitting lots of these for customers so if you have any questions just drop us a message
I ordered the D7 Pro just before Lone Rider showed his product.
Fortunately I still could return the D7 Pro and order the Lone Rider lights.
They look fantastic ❤
Thank you for your comment - if you do order them, please use the link in the description as it helps our channel a lot
I’ve no plans on adding any lightning but found that very informative.
Nice one.
Thank you for watching mate!
I will still never understand reviewers who do a review of lights in the daytime but won't do it at night, I mean, common sense should dictate that the only way to demonstrating all the "features" and advantages will be at night and all reviewers do it. Review lights during the day
Hi there and thanks for commenting.
There are loads of reviews at night time for the Denali D7’s, D7 pros etc
These lights are incredibly powerful and rated globally as the most powerful lights on the market.
This isn’t about that - it’s about features and showcasing the differences between the two models. We will be doing more videos later in the year.
That's one superb review, thanks a bunch!
Would have loved to see the practical view while riding at night but no worries!
Coming soon….
Nice comparison. Thanks. Do you know if they are going to have a bundle for the BMW 1300 GSA?
They will do once the brackets are finalised
But you can use them with the R1300 MotoCan and use the engine bar clamps to get started!
I have the new 1300GSA on order so I’ll let you know
@@MidlandsMotorbikers Thank you.
hi. do you have anything showing what the lone-rider beam looks like at night. i am especially interested in the lower 4 leds - can i run them all the time or would it upset oncoming traffic?
Thank you for the comments, and this will be part two which is coming soon!
They don't do a Motocan for the Multistrada do you get the speed sensitive function on the centre light with a standard EZCan module?
There will be a range of new MotoCan devices coming out later in 2025. However if you have an EZCan Gen2 then it can work for you yes
Great video and thanks much for the comparison. I have a follow up question. If i were to get the Lonerider bundle with Motocan, can i still use the other 2 of 3 circuits for a Denali Soundbomb horn and B6 brake lights ? I ask as I’ve read the other way on Denali’s Cansmart is not compatible for non Denali products.
Hi and thank you for watching the video and commenting
Great news - the other three circuits are yours to use as you wish - I have already used the others for a Soundbomb and b6 brake light
@@MidlandsMotorbikers - Awesome. Thank you so much for clarifying. Appreciate it.
Great video and well worth watching. I've recently taken delivery of the MotoLights. I've also ordered a pair of Denali T3 rear pods. As I understand it, you can add up to 16 accessories onto the white ezBUS circuit, as long as you don't exceed the maximum draw. I going to try to daisy-chain the T3's onto the white ezBUS circuit with an additional Y-splitter. If that doesn't work, I still have the three spare ports on the MotoCAN (ezCAN).
Yes that’s correct! Would love to know how you get on!
Did you also replace the front turn indicators on your GS? If so, what aftermarket brand did you chose?
No these are the standard indicators for the 2022 GSA
Hi thanks for all those detaiks, please have have you done to set both the moto lights and d7pro on your bike? Thanks in advance for the feedback
I’m Sorry I don’t understand the question - please email us at shinysideupvalet@gmail.com so that we can answer any questions you may have?
Really good video! I got a question. If I buy the motolights and their CANsmart, can I use denali lights on the other channels? Thanks.
Thank you for the comment and glad you enjoyed it!
Yes you can use the remaining channels now you like with other lights(or accessories) if you wish
Great video. Re: the motolights: I m probably missing something, how to activate the spot lights? I can see you can go full beam (beast mode) then wide, then ring light, but how to activate the spot lights?? Thanks a lot
If you are running the latest software you can now choose when the center spot light comes on (either with full beam or with speed blending)
@@MidlandsMotorbikers thanks! hence using the modulation function
Hello together
A great comparison of the two auxiliary headlights.
But I have another question: which windscreen is fitted to the GS?
Greetings from Greece
Thank you! This is the Puig touring tinted screen with additional clip on at the top
The two sets of spotlights you installed are theoretically not enough for one set of controllers. Do you have two ezcan controllers installed on your motorcycle?
Yes for this demonstration we had two controllers / the Denali D7 pro took up 3 channels alone
Lights are good to use at night. It seems really odd to do a comparison of lights without doing a comparison of lights....at night. I was seriously considering the new Motolights but after watching the release videos a few times I realised that the beam pattern is really relatively tight. I use a pair of Baja Designs XL80s on my R1250GS which have an amazingly broad beam with more than adequate reach. Here in Australia where Skippy often makes an appearance width of beam is paramount.
Thank you for commenting, however the beam pattern is very wide on full beam, it lights up the peripherals extremely well
I think u should do a video short video of the lights at night, comparing both lights, if u can do this much extensive work, going that light extra mile for the channel gets u that boost. And people can make up their minds fully on what to pick. Since u have both of them.
Hello, I’ve been looking for a comparison between these two products since the Lone Rider hit the market. I came across your video, and it’s the most realistic, honest, and detailed one I’ve seen so far. Thank you for that.!
However, there is still one topic that remains unclear to me. The Denali D7 fills the sides of the road significantly when at 20% brightness in DRL mode. But the performance of the Lone Rider at night with 20% DRL is still a mystery. I would greatly appreciate it if you could make a video on this topic when you have time. Thank you in advance.
Thank you for your feedback and comment I appreciate that and glad it was good for you.
The LoneRiders have a fantastic pattern with the lower four floodlights and their purpose and design is to do just that - flood the floor in front and around you - we have plans for some detailed videos coming soon….
Awesome breakdown, and thanks. But I would like to know this, I am thinking, instead of having other smaller lights added to either of D7 Pros, or Lone rider, can one have both of them on a bike at the same time just as the same set up u have.? Was hoping u were going to touch on that.
Yes, absolutely however you will need to upgrade your alternator lol having both these lights on at 100% will cause your battery to struggle…..
Honestly . You won’t need both at all
Great to see your views on these. I’m looking forward to getting mine fitted 👍
Great and thank you for commenting - we can’t wait to fit yours for you!
Can you turn on just the wide beams on the moto lights from the switch gear of GS whereas the entire light can still turn on with high beams?
We have personalise this set up so the bottom
Four only come on at dusk or darker situations at 10% but you can personalise and set yours up however you like as well
@@MidlandsMotorbikers I don't want it ON at dusk necessarily as I also ride around town and just the DRL looks better for that but during rides I want to turn on the wide beam from switch gear. Is this possible?
@ ah yes you can with the OEM BMW wonderwheel
Hold it left for 3seconds to enter adjustment mode and then spin the wheel forwards or backwards adjust the lights intensity by 10% steps
@@MidlandsMotorbikersthis is the exact same question that I had, and I’m sure others will be wondering the same. It’d still be good to see some sort of definitive clarification with regards to controlling the function of the lights when on the move. How’s it all done?
Many thanks 👍🏻
Great comparison video. Really enjoyed it 👌🏻
Glad you enjoyed it! Which ones are your favourite?
@@MidlandsMotorbikers the Moto lights. I do like the look of them.
Can you use these Lone Rider Moto lights with the CanSmart controller Gen 2 from Denali?
Unfortunately not - the Denali CanSmart Controller doesn’t currently support the EZBus technology
@@MidlandsMotorbikers thx! 👍
What about the quality of the light between the two?
Very comparable between the two, the quality and the focus of the brand are perfect and give you exactly what you want/need as and when you need it
I will say the MotoLights have more control over the beam patterns
Very interesting video-thanks
What about legality of these lights?
Are they road legal in the uk?
Yes fully road legal certified :-)
Use the link in the description to order yours?
@@MidlandsMotorbikers ok, almost convinced. Can I connect a Denali sound horn to the Motocan controller?
@@bobmcgrath1272 yes you can very easily and same operation to what we are used to
When are you coming to book in?
I live in the Midlands and would like some D7s fitted. Where are you situated and how do I book my bike in? Thanks
Fantastic - we are based in Earl Shilton, just outside of Hinckley - give us an email on Shinysideupvalet@gmail.com and we can book you in!
I've got a set of the Motolights sitting in the garage waiting to be installed on my R1300GS, and the mechanics of the installation don't look too bad.
However, the computer/software aspect looks beyond my capabilities.
Sure wish i had someone like you for assistance here in the US. 😀
@@slyman0057drop me an email at shinysideupvalet@gmail.com and I will try help?
The hex easy can is bike specific. Does that mean the moto can is also bike specific?
I like the idea of only using one wire aswell. I wasn’t sure on the moto lights with the amber daytime lights but then you switched it to white.
Decisions decisions 🙈
Yes, just like the EZCan it will be Bike specific
I am like you and I love the ability to switch between Amber and White for the DRL
I think for someone who wants both fog lights and spotlights, this is a great solution
Can you replace a set of D7’s with the Motolights without needing to replace or add a controller?
Hi Darren you will need either a MotoCan Controller or the EZCan controller (Gen2) that uses the EZBus white white
Currently the Denali CanSmart Controller doesn’t have the EZBuz function yet
Contact us for more information on ShinySideUpvalet@gmail.com
@@MidlandsMotorbikers thanks James
@@darrenevans1242 very welcome
Good comparison review, I got in quick for the 2nd batch of lone rider motolights Motocan & under nose mount for £699!
Way Better lights imo & way better price than the Denalis £1120! need to wait till December though to get them 😮
Fantastic news!
Great video and very informative. As you were explaining the lights I was thinking the moto lights seemed a better option purely in terms of functionality.
Very much so - but it depends if you want that - most of the time it comes down to personal preference - thank you for commenting
Can younplease tell me what windscreen that is? Thank you
Thank you, it’s the Puig Touring screen in black with additional add on screen
Can we pair a can smart with a hexcan ?
Yes we can daisy chain them together
Can the D7s be used with the DialDim?
Yes they can but not with the full functionality - drop us a message if you want to learn more!
Thanks for this very useful comparison. As a Triumph Tiger 1200 owner. I've few questions: (1) are all features of Motolights, including the beam increase as the bike speed increases, exploitable by the Hezcan for Triumph, or the Motolights Motocan is needed? (2) does a crashbar mount for Triumph exist? (3) Is the Motocan compatible with others brands accessories, including Denali Soundbombs, etc..?
Hello and thank you for commenting! I am happy to confirm we have various solutions for you but it will depend on the exact model and year of your bike as to what we can offer for you.
GREAT NEWS - If there is a MotoCan / EZCan for your make and model then all of the features will work on your bike yes!
Please feel free to email us at shinysideupvalet@gmail.comfor more information
What about the clearwater lights. Where do you think they stand in comparison witht these beasts
A close competitor….. but compared to the smart light systems (from Denali and LoneRider) they don’t give you as much for your money
Hi would these lights work with thunder Box?
Although they may work, they won’t have any additional functions. They are designed to work with the controller (MotoCan) so you can achieve the functions (DRL, Indicators, full beam etc)
Thanks for replying. Bro
@@mianozzy6772very welcome
Moto lights are extremely awesome and they portray technology
Yes! Completely agree sir!
I want some lights with an easy to use strobe or flashing feature to aid visibility when lane splitting in traffic. What are my easiest options?
Ps: I dont do much night riding right now.
We can certainly look to help for you - message us at ShinySideUpValet@gmail.com and tell us your bike make and model
Hopefully we can help?
Hi, you should provide a real test review of the MotoLights, so we can really appreciate what those new pods can do compared to the D7Pro or 2 pairs of smaller 3-inch pods equivalent in wattage. I personally went with 2 pairs of pods to have a better beam orientation.
This will be coming soon, however after having two sets of light pods before and then switching to the MotoLights, I can promise that the MotoLights pods are all you need
I would go far as to say that the standard D7 pods give a fuller light pattern than the D7 Pros
@@MidlandsMotorbikers What do you mean by "fuller" pattern ? More Flood or more spot (throw)? Also, which pods model did you use before switching to D7?
@@JohnL-qx4mi both in all honesty
I would even say that to unveil the full potential of the D7 Pro it takes not 3 but 4 channels. Mine are mounted like that anyway.
Recap : If you use the four white lights only on both side as DRL, and use the full power (yellow + white) as high beam, so far so good, it takes two channels only if it is all you want to do.
On top of this if you want the yellow light ones to flash on one side when the turn signal is on (and the white ones stay on on both sides as DRL or full beam), then it takes 3 channels all together. In this setting the flashing yellow turn signal is unfortunately diluted into the white lights. Or else with the same setting (3 channels) you can also decide to cancel both DRL (or full beam) on both sides when turning to make the yellow turn signal show up better. But then you are blind and not seen any more as you don’t have any D7 pro lights on except for the yellow ones on one side.
Here comes the bonus of 4 channels; when the turn signal is activated on one side, the 3 yellow horizontal lights flash AND the 4 white ones are cancelled, whereas on the other side the DRL or full beam status stays on. This gives you a very sharp and better noticeable turn signal on the turning side, while keeping the DRL or the full beam on on the other side.
I hope this makes sense.
Yes a great run down and we have done a couple installs like this already, it’s just a shame it needs an entire controller to have this functionality
Los Focos Lone Rider! tiene muchas funciones sin perder potencia de luminosidad y el look que tiene, están geniales!
Thank you for commenting
I did add the D7Pros to my 1300GSA but really like what Lone Rider did to improve these lights.
100% a great improvement in the lighting game - the LoneRiders are the way to go now for the top of the range lights
Really amazing presentation...
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can i fit these on 2012 Tiger 800?
Thank you for commenting - currently you can only fit the Denali lights on your bike but as the Tiger doesn't have a Canbus controller available for it, you will only be able to control them with a switch or DialDim unit. We are happy to discus your options if you email us at shinysideupvalet@gmail.com
@@MidlandsMotorbikers thanks, i need to find something as i am wanting to do more UK riding and need aux lights... wonder what i can get/use...
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Which windscreen have you got?
Puig Touring screen with additional add on screen at the top
Great Review ... many thanks
Glad it was helpful!
I dunno... Clearwater lights have some *insane* specimens that throw wild amounts of light. Not to say any of these are bad but I'm not sure claiming they're categorically the best is correct. Their five-inch 10000+ lumen each Super Sevina for instance is brutal, or the Dixi which has both a long-range spot and a broader driving beam.
The Clearwater light pods are fantastic as well we agree!
Clearwater lights are still the best in its class, beats any Denali lineup hands down but have the worst marketing and online budget on the earth, even sand sellls faster, better and have more reach than Clearwater. It's as if the guys there only want to sell to folks 4kms from them.
Clearwater remains the #1
Point from me: manufacturers miss this part of the market where we ride retro bikes... we still want good aux lights but covered by a 60'-70's looking blurry glass. Imagine BMW R18 with these ultra modern looking leds it will clash
Very true, however there are other styles of lights we can look at for you? Get in touch with us at ShinySideUpValet@gmail.com
@@MidlandsMotorbikers will do, ta
When the CBS arena can’t afford there electricity they will be ringing you to light the field up 😂
I wouldn’t blame them, these lights are literally daylight
Need to know what works best riding at night in dipped beam that won't blind incoming cars. Don't care about being seen, all about seeing without dazzling others.
Then the MotoLights are 100% for you
They keep the lights on a flood floor pattern until you put the full beam on.
Thanks for the insight.
Glad it was helpful! Which ones will you choose?
I need to trade my Tiger 900 for a BMW. Seems like all the cool stuff i find only gets full functionality with BMWS.
We can supply and fit these to your tiger if you like….?
@MidlandsMotorbikers I wish. Im in Southern California. A bit far.
@ just a little bit lol
Wow… you already got the lone rider aux lights…. I’m still waiting for mine 😢
We are lucky enough to be product tester for them - you won’t be disappointed!
Let us know what you think when you get them
@@MidlandsMotorbikers Awesome. Thanks for your response.
AES FX3 Biled Laser is much better ... if you can please make a comparison video
Hello and thank you for the comment however this isn’t a brand or model we have heard about before…. You say they are better, can you tell us how/why?
@@MidlandsMotorbikers actually its a car fog light .. and I have custom fitted into my bike . i found out that its better than Morimoto Bi-LED and JW Speakers evo series.. i was using Morimoto bixenon from 2009 ...
the AES was inferior product in the Bixenon era but the new AES bi-LED Laser are so good . the low beams are so wide with perfect cutoff and the high beams are exceptionally good... the Clearwater light even cant match the Morimoto Bi-LED so I am quite confident that D7 pro cant match new gen Bi-LED Laser ..
@@apnagaon6498 Where did you buy them and do you have a video with them?
@@Zapoww9 ruclips.net/video/iJZpFAw-gyI/видео.htmlsi=5uG-s8LU-Rr6pggL
@@Zapoww9 and i ride at speed of 160kmph in complete dark highway
..i am sharing my video
Did BMW put some OEM light on that bike ?!
Yes of course
I agree 103%
That’s a lot of %
Hi there. I don't comment usually, but this time, I'll make an exception.
From my point of view, having the D4's from Denali for at least 5 years, mounted on a RT I'll have to add that even the Lone Rider lights might be brighter they still lack many useful futures ...
Please correct me if I'm wrong but they are not working with the BMW control wheel, you'll have to have a different switch mounted on the handlebar. The 3 times flash won't trigger the flashing from the additional lights (as Denali does), the same story when you're using the horn it won't trigger the flashing additional lights (as Denali).
Only these 2 future alone saved me from a couple of accidents in the city.
Another aspect is that it is not completely true what you've mentioned regarding Denali and their connectivity. For example, the horn is connecting directly on the original harness of BMW, so it won't take any other place.
I had the horn installed (but the new RT has one as powerful as Denali, so I didn't changed it). I have the 2 D4's installed with the special brackets under the mirrors and the auxiliary brake light, and i recommend it, and i still have place left for additional lights.
Another point (if I'm not wrong) you can use the Y cable from Denali and connect left and right additional lights in one slot.
Please note that I have the first generation of the Denali D4's and controller box, which doesn't have as many options as the latest one.
Also, they are not prepared for RT's ... there is no special mount for it.
I hope you won't take my comment in a bad way, I really like the LoneRider lights, but I think Denali are more like an all purpose kind of lights while LoneRider are more like Off-Road (or only you on the road situation, which to be fair is like 10% of the riding time).
Best regards
Your assumptions are as wrong as they can be. Denali CANsmart, the controller, is an OEM version of the HEX ezCAN. So is the Lone Rider MotoCAN. So you can program in the same "flash on pass", "flash on horn", etc. No extra switches.
The only difference between the three is that the CANsmart comes with more cables in the box, and has a higher price. Plus Denali at the moment says they do not support the new HexBUS that Lone Rider uses, but I think they actually do. I upgraded one, and it is there in the application. (No surprise, as they all use the same software. The resource library contains different logos and icons, that are chosen based on what brand of controller you connect to the computer.)
Hello and firstly thank you for your comment and asking the questions - this may also help clear up some confusion for any other people watching/reading…
The Denali lights you currently have will be using the Cansmart controller, which is a controller built and designed by Hex Innovate. This same design and controller system is used in the Hex EZCan and now the MotoCan controllers. So, to answer your first point - they will have the same functionality as your current set up and also more additional features. I will agree the strobe function on the flash to pass and horn is a fantastic feature!
The SoundBomb horn you have installed can also be installed inline with the original OEM horn if you wish but works out more expensive to do it that way as requires a plug and play harness - if you were to add your SoundBomb onto the controller then you will twin link both horns together to create a fantastic “train horn” result.
You mentioned about the Y-Split cable, which is a standard way to install the lights, but with the newer controllers you have the ability of having a left and right channel so you can request the left lights to flash (or go out) when indicating. This is a great feature to have when you have the amber lens’s installed and will create an additional indicator (more visibility = more information for other road users). However if you are happy with the pair of lights to operate “as one” then the y-split cable will be a great option.
The MotoLights are fully certified to be road legal and will both enhance your visibility and cause you to be seen better, I would say they are MORE suited for on road usage with the addition of the DRL as indicators and the super strong beam patters for the road and path ahead of you.
Both Denali and LoneRider have amazing auxiliary light solutions and there are other brands that are becoming bigger and better as well - we are still an advocate for any/all additional lighting is better than nothing so it just comes down to personal preference.
If you have any more questions, then I would be happy to answer them for you,
Kind regards,
James
@@thoham60 thank you for your input :)
@@MidlandsMotorbikers Another advantage of connecting the SoundBomb to the ezCAN/x/x, is that you can program in a delay. So a short press on the button gives the friendly little beep, and a longer press gives the annoying bicyclist a heart attack. Granted, you do get some of the effect by using the stock horn wire to trigger a relay in parallel due to the inherent delay of the compressor, but you loose the really useful light flashing.
@@MidlandsMotorbikers And thank you for a great video! I am a Denali and Lone Rider reseller in Norway, so it is very useful to me.
My thoughts? You want my thoughts? Where the heck are the night shots? They’re lights - and this is a “review”. How did you not compare them AT NIGHT?? 🤔
Thank you for the comments - this will be part two of the video - keep your eyes peeled for the results
Never buy first edition. Wait for a couple of years they will tweak it close to perfection
LoneRider don’t release a product until it is spot on……
Nice lights, shame about the bike they are on. 😂
Tell me about it lol
@@MidlandsMotorbikers im tempted on a set for my Africa Twin, look better than the Denali units
@@mattyb7736 if you go for a set please use the affiliate link in the description as this helps my channel massively :-)
Could your bike be any wider 😂 x
It’s all about the Road presence for me :-)
too bad that lonerider is illegal in my country (unless you are stupid rich or know people in power)
I’m sorry to hear that mate…..
@@MidlandsMotorbikers yeah sh1tty government but hey good news is we dont have cops chasing us when we speed up :D