Making my lift out - Part 2
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- Part 2 of my lift out. This involves the wiring.
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Very clever way to power the lift out and cuts off the power to sidetracks. Your explanations are just fine .
Thanks! 👍 Glad it was helpful!
Very smart. Really like your choice of blue paint too.
Thank you! Cheers!
Really great stuff here Deryk! Glad to see you using the same rail soldering method Jeff used for the lift out on his BNSF layout. Good idea to isolate the rails at the turnouts as well. Tons of great ideas pulled together, should make for a very smooth and reliable lift out! Thanks for sharing,
Ethan
efitter7 Thank you very much Ethan! Hopefully it is reliable and works as planned.
I have seen plenty of ideas for making lift out sections and how to power them , But your solution to the problem is deffinatley the best so far
Its so funny earlier this week I thought to myself "I should make a lift bridge", and a few days later you have a few videos on how to do it. This video and part 1 is excellent thanks for the awesome detailed instructions!
***** Thank you! And the videos weren't put together very well, but I hope you get the idea. And I hope it helped. That is the most important thing!
You did a fantastic job. Thanks
Thank you!
Awesome steal you got there, I would have NEVER ever thought of that, I think I can use this on my layout as I do not have enough room for anything to open like a door or tilt up. Thanks for sharing and really getting excited to see what you come up with next!
David Durbin Thank you so much David! I never would have thought of it either. Glad someone mentioned it to me.
6/5/22 I’m new to the modeling hobby,this video is extremely helpful to me. I’m in a wheelchair and can’t duck or crawl under my layout,very helpful,thanks for sharing this video!,
Great build! Looks really sturdy and reliable. I'm really excited to see trains running finally! Thanks for sharing!
-Cam
railfan220 Thanks Cam! You're not the only one excited to see trains running. LOL
Brilliant solution to killing power when the liftout is out. Thank you! I will definitely be using that approach on the four liftouts required for my layout.
Thanks! Glad it was helpful
Just loving' the simplicity of this solution!
Thank you!
~Deryk
Now thats fancy! Not boring at all dude. Very helpful and you explained it well.
model railer Thank you very much John
Great idea! I've struggled with this problem. My main difficulty has been (in NE PA) slight swelling of either lift out or benchwork itself due to seasonal humidity. Even a 1/8" swell will cause problems (and my house is climate controlled including dedicated train room). I resorted to using aluminum channel and foam for the lift out. Benchwork itself still does swell seasonally just a bit. Your electrical solution is elegant; mine less so but it works. Thanks for all the effort on a much needed how-to for many people.
Not boring at all!!! What a simple piece of genius, Deryk! Definitely a case of the simplest idea being the best. No switches, and the hard Brass dowels make it perfect for mine, which is going to what's basically an island. Love it!
Carmine 🚂
Great idea for the wiring, I would not have thought of that. Hate to say any thing but the side pieces may not do any thing for the warping. The wood usually cups more then length. There is one thing you can do to help with warping is to cut one or two lines with a saw length wise. Start and stop about 1.5" from each end, and about 3/8" deep. So when the wood tries to cup there is a relief area for the wood to contract and expand. Hope this helps you in the future.
Scott
Scott Downey Thanks for the tip Scott. I may have to try that.
I'm Making something similar, though not as neat as yours at the moment, but I also hit on the point of killing power to the rails when the bridge is lifted out, you explain it way better than I did so have linked your tutorial, hope you don't mind.
Keep them coming matey.
Mark
Deryk. Don't be too hard on you self - you explained that beautifully!
Your isolating idea was very good. I've made many lift hinged sections, the longest is 2 metres and have used micro switches. Your idea might get a run next time I do the "Walkthru" trick! Thanks for sharing.
Great 2 part series Deryk. I like how you have simplified the wiring for the lift out. Even though it was not your idea, you executed it very well. Good job.
My bad spoke to soon! You are really making progress! the cork looks laying is coming out great. Oh! and the lift out bridge come out like a piece of fine furniture. I'm redoing mines so I'll also still the ideas from you. Thanks, a lot of great tips on the 2 videos. RT
Thanks RT! Everything is coming along. Good luck with your redo on your lift out. Feel free to steal any ideas you like. That's what it's all about. Thanks for the kind compliments brother!
I agree don't be too hard on yourself. Nice job. I will steal this plan also and I am going to be following step by stp on my Train Room Screen.
Well thought out isolation on liftout. Well done. Robert
robert van ooyen Thanks Robert! I almost gave myself a headache working on this. HAHA
Great stuff, D! Will be doing some of this for mine! Thanks for the great video!
Best,
John
John Prescott Thanks John! Now hopefully it works as planned. LOL
Great couple of vids Deryk. I really like the isolated section idea - really simple but effective. And of course this hobby is all about sharing great ideas - wherever we first got them. Thanks for taking the time.
Great job! Your explanation is fine! Simple, but complete! I like the copper connection and the human-safe power cutoff idea! Excellent!
Thanks for sharing the construction of this important element of the track, Deryk.
It was very clever the idea of isolating the opposite rail at each side. At the begining I didn't understood why, but after seeing the entire video it was perfectly clear for me and then I realize what a smart guy you are !. Congratulations !.
Many cheers from Chile (South America), John.
This is so helpful, I am also building a pull out bridge and I was having a hard time trying to figure out how to build it. Until I came across this. Thank you for posting I'm excited to try it out.
James
I've been puzzling about how to do this but your video is logical, easy to understand (and to make) and very helpful - thanks for sharing!
Glad it was helpful! You are very welcome!
Thanks for passing along this information. Might not be your idea, but you executed the concept brilliantly. Well done!
Thanks Stan!
Great idea about powering the lift out to prevent runaway locomotives. I was thinking about that happening. I’m in the process of expanding my layout and I need two lift outs. Thank you for a great video.
Thanks! Maybe you can use something like this for your layout.
I know I will. I’m gotten several ideas from your video like how to power the lift out.
I have a duck under that I want to make into a lift out. I was going to use the micro switches, but I like this set much better. Deryk you do explain things better than you think. Thanks for sharing!
CheeserockFarmboy Thanks, Glad I could give you an idea!
Holy cow Deryk! That is a great idea. Can't wait to see it work with a train going across. Thanks!
Tim
tmh57 Thanks Tim! Hopefully have trains running soon!
I had to sketch out the wiring connections in order to understand. It is very clever.
not boring ! interesting ! we will added also a liftout ! but we have another idea with the power connecting ! now we saw your copperplate thing and we thinking ....
Rarawer Thanks Matthias! I think it should work great!
*****
YES, works great !
Great idea
Thank you! Cheers!
Found you lift out very interestingif i can suggest getting som emery cloth or nail polishing sticks incase the contacts need cleaning , keep the emery board under the lift out so its handy
Phil
Phillip McCallum Thanks Phil and that's a very good idea. Thank you for sharing!
Great two videos, nice simple lift out.
I understood perfectly. Thanks.
Glad it helped!
That's a great idea I'm going to have modified my dads lift off sections on his layout. He has two and we did with the rail joints and plugs ins
Robert Sacco Thanks Robert! You way works good. But this is the only entrance to my layout, and I didn't want to be fooling with plugs and rail joiners all the time. If it was some where that didn't get much use, I would have just used your method. A lot easier.
The copper pads were genious!!!
Thanks for responding. I thought it was latex but wanted to make sure.
Robert McMinnis
Nice clean job,100 watt light bulb went on for an easy lift out,can't wait to see the main line laid and a train running around the loop.from Pittsburgh Pa.and the home of the Pgh bums good luck
Thank you! And yes, those Steelers looked like a bunch of bums today. I expected it. Typical of them.
Another great video! I still have to insulate the tracks going over my lift-up. I may steal some of your tips. Thanks for sharing… I know we all look forward to seeing it in action….
BNSF9382 Thanks Jeff! Steal whatever you like, LOL That's the whole point.
Awesome Deryk, it's really coming along great, that lift out is very nicely done! Cheers, Dan
TheMisterdan01 Thank you Dan!
Pretty cool idea, looks like it will work well. I would just add some Plexiglas sides to the lift out to keep any derailed cars from falling into concrete valley. You may also wish to mark the ends "End A" and "End B" to be sure that your tracks and contacts line up just right and you don't get you bridge flipped around. Look forward to more progress!
Trainz1992 Thanks bud! I should have mentioned in the video, but the lift out will only go in one way. The dowels on one end are in further than the other. And I do like your idea of putting sides on it. Thanks again!
With care, you can use contact cement, and roll the cork road with a roller, I find this the best way to lay road bed.
Nice work Deryk, I like the wiring for the lift out should work good. Keep the videos coming! The layout is really taking shape!
Cheers, Kevin
Kevin Dunbar Thank you Kevin!
So I love you lift out and I am designing mine the same way. The only issue I am having is finding the copper. I just went to lowes and Home Depot and showed them the clip of your video of you talks about the copper and they were clueless. If you could point me in the right direction it would be very helpful! Keep up the great work!
Sure! It was in one of the drawers that have the specialty screws, nuts, etc. I also think you can find it at Hobby Lobby too.
love your layout design. smooth S-curve. great idea for a life-out
Well done.
Thanks!
Great channel and video. Just a FYI: if you start to have electrical problems with the copper strips you may want to try phosphorous bronze because it won't corrode like copper can from moisture.
Thanks Ron! And thanks for the tip. I appreciate it!
~Deryk
Loving watching your project come along. Greetings from Dublin, Ireland.
RKF2013 Thank for watching and commenting! I really do appreciate it!
Great work Deryk!!! Great idea on isolating the track!! I like how you set that up!! Brian
thanks a bunch, I am doing 3 of these looking for ideas and this by far is the best!
Hi just found your channel a few days ago and been going over your video's . and like that lift out and it will very easy to use .
This is a great idea. Why such along isolation section.
The dead section has to be long enough to hold all your locomotives, if you run multiple. DPU. That way one isn't still on a live section and continue to pull the train into the opening.
this is absolute genious... im so stealing this idea.
I like it....... Looking forward to the next update.......
Brad
tranefreek Thanks Brad!
great idea
Perfect! 2019 ive been looking, and this is the best! Simple and easy.
Thank you Leonard!
Again great job Deryk..
I think I'm going to redo my lift out I don't really like how it turned out seeing you make this makes me want to do this
Thanks! Glad I could give you some inspiration.
I'm tired of the duck under, thank you for sharing. Will put this information to work!
bigsamdog1 Thanks! Glad I could help!
Ive been looking around for ideas, this is excellent... thanks for sharing !
Great idea and it works , Dan's [ATSF1317 ] idea of using the dowell's would work great to
Glynn
QRoutback Thanks Glynn!
Brilliant....this is a top possibility for me.
drewzdrew27 Awesome! And thanks!
Is there a part three. Very interesting
No there isn't a part 3. I covered everything in these 2 vids. However I did add plexiglass sides to the lift out to prevent locomotive and rolling stock from falling to the floor in case of derailments.
THANK YOU...for sharing.
Very cool Deryk , you made it look so easy. Go Stealer's, lol.
ruatrainman2 Thanks! Yeah, the Steelers bit the big one today. I kind of expected it. That's how they roll.
Hi Deryk, Your vids are awesome thanks for the great content from a nice guy. Keep it up you're famous nHOw
***** Thanks! I really appreciate the compliments!
Just wanted to let you know that even though your video is 7 years old that it is still very useful. I loved the idea of using Brass table pins rather than wood dowels and the wiring idea of wiring the black to one side of the lift out and the red to the other side and using the lift out bridge to complete the circuit. Thus eliminating the need for either a plug or switch. I am curious, however, after 7 years how everything has held up for you. Is there anything that you would do differently now if you were building another lift out section?
Thank you so much for the compliment. I am still using the same liftout. and haven't changed anything other than adding plexiglass sides to the liftout section. Everything else is still the same and still working.
@@DGModelworks I am in the process of taking the liftout one step further. I will have 2 tracks crossing a truss bridge. this puts some depth into the liftoff otherwise the base will be similar to your design. Hope mine is as easy to manage as yours is day to day.
Nice job
Maj Evans Thanks Maj!
looks good i will try this i have a lift out
Well I'm pretty slow. I no longer have a duck under, I copied your design. It works like a charm. Thank you very much.
Thats a great video and a great idea, will you make a video once the track in laid on the lift out?
RockIslandmodeler Yes I will, and did! Check it out when you get a chance. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Very interesting, What about adding 4 small springs on the copper connections, think over time
They would flatten out? I am looking to make this.
Hmm, your idea might be better. So far mine is still working just fine though.
Great idea! Great video! What kind of solder did you use to join the jumper wires to the copper plate? The solder I use for rail joiners and feeders will not bond to the copper. Thanks!
like that idea
nice job!
Southerntreatment Thank you!
Nice design and execution, Deryk! Great work! So, if your track height is not exact across the liftout, you'll just use sandpaper to adjust, right?!?!?!? LOLOL!!
brian102256 Thanks Brian! 100 grit to be exact! LOL
After having your liftout for a while now, has it worked out as you planned. Out of all the designs and ideas out there, I really like this one and have mentally chosen this version to use, just hoping you didn't end up with any regrets
Still working just fine! No regrets at all. I love how easy it is to just lift out and disable track power at the same time. No fussing with micro switches are plugs. No problems with anything on it.
Thanks Deryk, good to know!
That is an awesome idea and enjoyed the video. Now just make a hook on the bottom as well and hang in on that section as you walk in to the layout or above the door. The thing I have a question about is before it goes through the tunnel onto the liftout isnt there an industry there that needs serviced that you would look power to their track? Is the plan to never run it as a point to point?
Okcuse Norton Thanks buddy! Good idea, on the hook idea. I think that is something I will do. Yes there is an industry in that area, but the track leading to it will come of the turnout I mentioned further back. So the isolated track will be after the turnout, so I'll be good there. I hope that made sense, lol. It's hard to explain without a diagram.
Nope made perfect sense. I was just making sure I was on the same page lol
Hey great design! Im sure you thought of this but make sure you mark which is is which end or youll plug it in backward unless itll only fit one way? Looks great tho gonna be a sweet layout bro
Tyson Evans Thanks Tyson, and very good point. It will only fit in one way, so I'm safe. Thanks for pointing that out though, ya never know.
Yes, the terminal block mounted under the lift out
yes both rails need to be connected.
holy crap thats awsome
genorails3 Thanks Geno! I love hearing comments like that!
I subscribe to your channel and like watching the progress. I am working on an HO layout myself. I have picked up some neat tips. I would like to know what type of paint you used on the foam board? The lift out wiring gave me an idea for my swing out section.
Robert McMinnis
Robert Mcminnis Thanks Robert! The paint was just a gallon of latex paint that I got at Walmart. It was some of their 'mistake' paint.
Wekk done!
Would 1/2” birch plywood (braced underneath of course) work for a lift out bridge?
Great video. One question, does electrical wire connect from the terminal block to each rail on the lift out? Thanks
The terminal block mounted under the liftout? Yes.
Could you show the actual wiring on video?
Hey deryk, fantastic how to video. Just wondering, would it have been possible to use the Dowell as power conducts?
Dan
ATSF1317 Thanks Dan! I actually have that some thought. But decided against it for 2 reasons. The dowels don't fit extremely tight, so I was worried about losing contact. And brass is not nearly conductive as copper. I was actually going to use brass contacts instead of copper because it was cheaper and easier to find, but decided against it whenever I looked up the conductivity of it.
Cool man
great video. how exactly do you solder track to the screws and how does that hold the track solidly? thanks.
Is there a need for any insulation between wires/copper and the wood?
No you do not. Thanks for watching!
I'm going to be copying this method for a liftout in my new layout. Just curious how you feel about this since this was 7 years ago?
That's awesome. I'm still using this same liftout. Still love it and it's still working. I just added some plexiglass sides to it. for safe measure.
Hi. Another question for you. What is the thickness of your copper pads and the strip on the lift out section.
.025 of an inch thick. You can get it at Lowes. It comes in a 4-in x 5-in sheet.
Im curious. How well has it held up over time? Its a great design.
So far it's still working the same. Thanks!
@@DGModelworks I'll be starting over soon and will be needing a lift out section. Thanks for sharing. I had a lift bridge on my first layout and it was ok. Just seemed liked I was readjusting it and fixing track every couple weeks. This looks a lot more stable.
@@jsrogers6464 as long as you have a solid base, it should work perfectly. Thanks and hope it works for you!
I'm having trouble getting my solder to stick to the copper pad. Can anyone give me some tips?
Scuff the location where you will apply solder, and use flux. Hope this helps.
Question: what do you do with the lift out section after lifting it out? Some hooks to the section on the right of it. On the edge.
That's a good question, since my layout isn't finished on top yet. I just set it on top the layout. But....I need to find a nice permanent spot to store it. Good idea with the hooks. or even a small shelf.
@@DGModelworks I only asked because the area seem to still be under construction. Maybe I just asked too soon. Looks great though so far. 👍
what about the Electric Spark that will take place?
***** Well if you are having sparking such as that, you might want to check your stuff.
Ok
***** yeah there shouldn't be any sparking.