This Is Feminist Justice - TFF Episode 44
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2024
- This Is Feminist Justice - TFF Episode 44
In Episode 44 Professor Fiamengo analyzes Justice Marvin Zuker's verdict in the Mandi Gray Rape Case in which a graduate student Mandi Gray invited Mustafa Ururyar for drinks followed by "hot sex" and later charged him with rape.
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FF-054 Feminist Justice
Schrödinger’s Feminist:
A woman is simultaneously a victim and empowered, until something happens to her and she chooses which state benefits her the most.
This is really well said actually
😎👌 ...nice.
...I had to screenshot that one!
Indeed. This explains the insanity today. How can a woman be “empowered” while coming from a place of weakness?
Great Post. I’m old enough to remember feminists screeching about men’s “infantilisation of women”. Seems they’re happy to do that for us men these days.
Thank you for your intelligent, clear discussion.
Geoff from Fremantle Western Australia 🇦🇺 🦘
Well they both infantilize themselves and also want you to take them more seriously than anyone else, they want the accountability of an infant but the power and influence of an adult. They have to be both a victim and a threat, aggressor and the aggressed upon. They are in essence a non entity trying and wanting to be all and nothing be given all be and be treated like they have nothing and deserve sympathy. They want the reality of power and entitlement in their lives but to live in the fiction of exclusive victimhood and of being the righteous oppressed in their minds. They must have all power but most critically they must always be right and have all moral authority and victimhood achieves that if only superficially.
Most feminist ideas are self-defeating, when you scrutinize. The notion that women were historically oppressed, for example: men built, protected, and maintained civilization, while simultaneously oppressing women the entire time. If that were true, men would be much, much, much busier than women, yet women were somehow incapable of using that free time to fight back. And if the sexes are equal, how would men oppress them at all? Even if the answer were as simple as physical violence, men have to sleep some time.
That said, my personal experience in female-dominated workplaces, reveals trends:
compulsive avoidance of all accountability, while constantly demanding changes in procedures;
amounts of calling-out and being late - that aren't tolerated in male-dominated workplaces - being seen as normal;
relentless and vicious gossip and social attacks, prompted by imagined slights - often merely incautious wording with no malicious intent;
far more time spent fabricating evidence to cover-up incompetence and laziness - and collaborative lying to blame others for their own behavior, which fuels the above problem - than it would take to just do the work;
most of the mothers being single;
many being 'serial monogamists' who love talking about how their most recent conquest wronged them;
a massive percentage density of 'lesbians', who flirt with male staff and clients - and often a genuine one who finds the others intolerable;
endless complaints of men causing all the world's problems.
Cluster-B personality disorder has been the norm.
On the other hand, in the male-dominated workplaces, the trend leans far more toward competence of female staff. Though it very often happens that there are attractive women whom many of the male coworkers are constantly 'supporting'. I also noticed, living in Alaska, that many of the women are far less Cluster-B orientated; I suspect this is due to the environment constantly demanding rational thought and action, least one randomly and quickly die. They tend to hate 'girly girls'.
Fair enough. Probably a lack of awareness of their "privilege." Also simple men allowing it just to get a bone.
All of that is true. Women cause more problems in the workplace than they’re worth. Their “contribution” of diversity costs far more than any benefit to any type of business- aside from perhaps the oldest of all female dominated occupations
Yeah the constantly supporting thing also is men are cursed with a stronger sex drive that creates a thing called sex brain and reduces rational thought during some periods. Women can probably get the same thing in heat men just have that all the time. It’s another burden men have that women don’t.
People get that hormonal and other shifts due to drugs or alcohol effects you but don’t get that if you are born with a higher sex drive it’s almost an internal milder version of being intoxicated or altered mentally if it goes up to high. It’s sort of a curse and a blessing I guess as I think sex drive is linked to overall drive and probably also gifts men with I think greater creative passion and drive and even often humor but it can also destroy them if it goes into overdrive as it’s more likely to do in men while women more often have a total drop in drive and hence why they can more easily reject men and sex but not reject any other temptation any easier than men like food or social media and are often worse in some impulse areas like shopping.
My first thought now when a woman claims that she was raped is to doubt her story. Thanks, feminists.
Almost all women use a fake story of "rape" to get your sympathy. They love victimhood. They thrive on it and they never want to give it up.
Any time i hear words such as abusive, rape , narcissist, controling, sexist, misogyny , patriachy, vulnerable, manipulator uttered from a female's mouth it doesn't really hold any weight. They over played their hand. How many times can a boy cry wolf?
@@dukewilliam3660 It's not that they overplayed their hand. It's that MOST of the "rapes", "abuse (of women), "sexism" and "misogyny" you hear about are ALL FAKE, especially the "rape". MOST of the so-called "rapes" are FALSE RAPE ACCUSATIONS. More than 90% of those cases ARE. "Sexism" and "misogyny" DON'T EVEN EXIST in real life. MOST men would kiss women's feet day and night to get a pat on the shoulder, let alone get some tail. There are hardly any men who don't worship women and do everything to appease them.
@@dukewilliam3660Spot on. Or else wait 5 minutes and they usually change their mind about what they perceive to have happened
According to the Toronto Star, the original July 2016 conviction was overturned on appeal mid-2017, and charges were dropped in December 2017. So maybe there's *some* hope for the accused in cases like this.
There is no doubt that the feminist ideology that framed the original judge's decision would still be firmly and deeply rooted in the ground of the Canadian judicial system.
Thanks for the info 👍
...TBH, I thought this ruling was an immediate sacking offence 🤷♂️
How can you have a judge who is utterly subsumed by an ideology that makes them treat half the population in such a way?
And what of the corrupt judge?
@@Fakeslimshady Apparently he is now retired after a "long and distinguished career".
@@gordthompson4664 .... ahhh, what else did I expect...
I was a juror on a SA case 16 years ago. Two young men and two young went to a house party and proceeded to get blasted. There was activity that definitely caused regrets afterwards, which the (female) judge went to lengths to explain was not sufficient grounds for a conviction. The complainants were clearly not interested in going to trial, and the crown did not seem all that motivated either, but there was some sort of social worker there that clearly wanted a prosecution. All of us in the jury agreed that this was not SA. My opinion was this was at best an expensive lesson to the four people involved not to put themselves in such a position in the future.
Lucky.....
As the boys take decades to repay the legal expenses and rebuild their lives, overcome the prejudice the media have planted against them. Any future employer who Google's their names .will bring up the whole story .. I am sure the boys will reflect on how lucky they were!
I hope they learned. That would be refreshing.
I think a big problem with current legal principles in regards to this issue is, that guilt is often assigned prior to conviction. "Presumption of innocence" is integral to a fair trial. Men who are accused of rape, shouldn't be punished until a crime has been proven. Just my opinion
The process is the punishment.
His name will be plastered all over the media, just on her accusation.
He will often lose his job, he will be unable to pay the mortgage, he will lose his home, he will be crippled by legal debt, he will often lose his family - any partner will divorce him taking his kids with her. Many fair weather friends and family will be against him.
Then he will go to trial and the case against him will collapse or result in a quick acquittal.
He is left on the street with nothing. In many jurisdictions she gets victims of crime compensation regardless of how ridiculous her allegations were.
Even if innocent, he is left with a life in tatters.
In the late 90s there was an American television show called Ally McBeal, about lawyers in a Boston law firm (not a Bostonian accent among them). I tried to find the episode number, but I only found the clip. In it Richard Fish, partner at the firm is defending his female client in a SH case. Fish, who is legitimately misogynist by even the most casual standards, stand up to make the following remarks in his female client's defense:
"My cause of action is premised on the notion that women are victims, your honor, they need special help. When you look at the evolution of SH laws, what we are really saying is that women should qualify under the federal disabilities act. They are less able. They cannot cope with romance in the workplace. They cannot contend with having to do a job, and have a man smile at them. It's too much. Look where we are, your honor, it used to be quid pro quo. Then it became hostile environment. Now it's Seinfeld episodes. Women can't take it, they bruise. They laws of this land are here to protect the weakest and most vulnerable members of our society. She's a woman. Protect her."
While this got me chucking, I'm afraid nearly 30 years later, and following this video, I'm seeing it much differently. Apparently this is the standard by which courts will adjudicate on women's behalf. Jokes aside, the verdict is sickening. I can see why guys are walking away from relationships.
Amazing reference
Not all of us women are like that.
@@debrawehrly6900 But any of you _can be_ exactly like this, at any moment, and without any advance warning.
@@surlyogre1476without evidence after the fact too.
@@debrawehrly6900 fair enough. It's a higher percentage with older "girls" I know tonnes of awesome women ... But most of them get shacked up by 30 er so. Hahaha.
But seriously, humans are all a little bat shit crazy! But I think the pendulum has swung to be dominated by the female archetype... They have figured out how to abuse men enmasse. Shame the monkey brain ... Works!
If it wasn't for women I'd still be a rock! But now I've got so much cognitive dissonance I'm a nihilist... I wish I was merely a rock. 😅 I wish all humans were rocks... We're evil.
That kind of woman will give tons of migraines to those poor bears.
Indigestion, surely?
Thanks for restoring my appreciation for jury trials
I’ve never seen a self hating man like this judge. Who got to him was he raised by two mommies he’s embarrassment to the bench and embarrassment to human beings.
Weak men create hard times.
Zuker is a Jewish name
JUdges are given femunist indoctrination to think this way. Their career is contingent on following the orthodoxy!
So? Law happens to be an industry they dominate if they are willing to study and put in the long hours and sacrifices for school then they deserve to be lawyers and judges and shit. This one happens to be a judicial activist, the worst kind of of judge.
@@Rikalonius We blaming men now for their predicament? How do you know he's not just cynically serving the feminist system for money?
This video just explains a few small reasons why men need to do anything to protect themselves in the world
If the judge is married he should be arrested for oppressing his wife.
It’s been said before, but we need to start sentencing these liars to the same sentence that the man would’ve received had he been erroneously convicted ; plus sued for defamation, pain and suffering, legal costs and court costs - etc- like news reports clearing said man’s name. It’s sick to “believe all women” when many psychopaths do this for power and vengeance
Stay single kings
Thank you for using the word "kings". This IS the new title that we should use to refer to men, well, most men but not manginas and simps and white knights.
They refer to women as "ladies" even when they're prostitutes and skanks and worse.
I've already seen a few videos using the word "kings" referring to men. We need to keep spreading it.
So I guess that men would simply avoid women in the West and seek out girls abroad. Oh....
As long as YOU stay in whatever foreign country that girl is in. Once you bring her to the US or West she'll most likely turn into a zombie too.
Bingo! My fiancée was raised in Russia. Even the best of Western women succumb to the mantra that it's always the man's fault when something is wrong. That seems to be sex-linked to begin with but when it's encouraged by society it becomes intolerable for men. We've come to the point where, to protect the man, every interaction between a Western man and woman should be covered by a legal contract signed and notarized and enforceable by law.
So in Canada if a man is accused of rape and it turns out that the accusation and subsequent judgment are based on false or conflicting testimony, is there a civil remedy where the accused can be compensated by the accuser?
Being accused of a crime particularly a sex crime has serious social implications.
This goes to a larger problem in our criminal justice system, the likes of which Vince Bugliosi and others documented decades ago... Namely, the benches of our courts being largely occupied by undistinguished lawyers who were appointed thanks to their political connections. Not surprisingly, these folks are frequently unaware of the law, or/and(worst of all)prejudiced against one side of case from the get-go
All of our institutions are being populated by people who have no other qualification except being politically reliable.
Zuker is ruling like a man that has never known a female.
No wonder incels. No wonder migtow. No wonder.
It's MGTOW. No "i".
It's easier to drop out of society, and bemoan the unfairness of life from behind our keyboards, rather than agitating for criminal justice reform out in reality
@@pukeachu What if dropping out of society is one of, if not the most important of ways to achieve such reform?
@@Fakeslimshady Lots of luck to those men who believe that they'll be the first gaggle of humans in the history of our species who get their needs and desires fulfilled by NOT pursuing them
No wonder humanity facing extinction
There was a time when a lady could turn up torn and battered and claim the R word and men could confidently decorate a tree with the perpetrator. Now anything can be the R word and what's the penalty for anything and nothing? It's almost nothing and the predators roam free.
Really? Tell that to Danny Masterson.
We pretending now they don't go to prison, are we?
When was this time.and where?
This makes zero sense
We need strict laws of affirmative DISSENT being a required element of proving rape. Lack of consent should only be an element in case of an incapacitated accuser.
You nailed it Janice. Justice Zucker, stay after the class. Ms Fianengo has some things to teach you. P.S. If you remenber where you put it, bring your thinking cap.
To top it all, a lot of women would view this video with the reaction “yeah….so what is your point?”
I’m pretty sure there’s not many women who watch this channel, unfortunately
@@big_red_machine3547 Well exactly.
Holy water and the devil don't get along so well.
There’s a word for a woman who tempts ‘wink-wink’ then doesn’t deliver as promised.
What is that word?
I stand to learn something.
Reminds me of an anti-grape video I was to watch to complete my college orientation in 2011 where it was explicitly stated that if _specifically she_ changes her mind at any point but doesn't communicate, it's still grape. No comment on both parties being inebriated and who graped who, but I'm sure I could guess the position there.
so marvin zucker believes women having babies is not desire but the use of power .
She makes an incredibly clever insinuation at the end that I actually caught this time, as I think I've heard this before and didn't the first time before Jan's entire channel was conveniently deleted.
It's amazing how inconsistent the beliefs are, again basically saying something she said several times, which is that if a woman's word is never to be believed, why believe her now?
It's really astonishing.
If she can be persuaded to say anything, based on circumstance, what's to stop her from saying she was raped, again based on social circumstance?
The Australian has an article about kangaroo courts in the Australia legal system today.
Feminism like climatism is an ideology bound to hurt.
Bro has "Women-are-wonderful" effect. This is a documented psychological phenomenon. It refers to the tendency for people to attribute more positive characteristics to women compared to men. This bias was first identified in a study by Alice Eagly and Antonio Mladinic in 1994, where participants rated women more favourably than men on a range of traits. This effect suggests that people generally hold more positive attitudes toward women, seeing them as more kind, nurturing, and trustworthy. However, it's worth noting that this effect can coexist with other forms of gender bias and stereotypes, and does not negate the existence of sexism or discrimination against women
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women-are-wonderful_effect#:~:text=The%20women%2Dare%2Dwonderful%20effect,women%20as%20a%20general%20case.
Thank you for pointing that out, I didn't know about this effect. But it's such a blackpill since even the guys who found out about it literally frame it as some kind of male sexism (benevolent sexism) towards women when it's literally just the opposite.
@@candide1065 those men are bitter, resentful, reactionary, and have an excessive external locus of control. The truth is always very nuanced
I heard that "always already"! 😂
Holy crap. What have we come to?
A logical conclusion based on feminist theory but we've gone far beyond this madness since 2016.
This stuff will end when some "rough justice" is visited upon Judge Zuker and the like.
I she took her clothes off most men would see that as a green light. I assume she was screaming at the top of her lungs that she was being raped so someone could save her. If not i for one would question the validity of her claim, it seems pretty weak especially with the text and all.As for the judge that's a whole other ball of wax. Where do they find these guys at little girl slumber parties?
That's sadly probably more accurate than you realize. I'm sure a quick look at the judge's hard-drive would be revealing.
I assume at this point that anybody who is ambitious is some kind of pervert. Usually with men it involves female minors so, yeah, slumber parties.
Does this corrupt judge still have his job?
He's probably been promoted...
It's no so much failure to meet idealised romantic conduct getting penalised, as criminalising fleeting, lack of attentiveness, or, a momentary lack of emotional awareness!
Yeah, those and revenge seeking are normal female attributes. If you want to get in trouble, be inattentive to her moods. Even the best women will not tolerate it.
One wonders if there was something tribal about the case.
The Devil working overtime with apples.
In my experience judges are not stupid people. Is it possible that the judge has produced this nonsense verdict to force the matter to the appeals court to get a binding verdict on these questions. Or am I just being to charitable?
You're being too charitable. He probably thinks it's a good career move.
Why are you posting this from 8 years ago without indicating that it is old? The conviction was overturned and the charges dropped. The accuser blamed the feminist trial judge for issuing an opinion that was so outlandish that it was vulnerable on appeal.
Read the video description
Justice Zucker should question his own sex issues.
Its almost lie s/he said and unspoken communication might be weaker to critical theroy lawfare than explicit open shut dna cases. Which happen to lot fewer. A lot less potentially vulnerable to infkation of statistics by falsehoid too.
The infantilsation of women by the state and the law to a child like state.
Right! Exactly what they said they didn't want in theory. But they have the legal prerogative of changing their minds about that after the fact too because of patriarchal oppression.
Yeah this is nuts.
Horrifying
She's smart, and her hair is awesome
Jesus H!! This is insane!
So rape is proven by the victims state of mind? Aka if she says it, it was so...
Didn't you know that ? Remember #Believeallwomen ? That's right, Biden and Obama siad it. Believe all women all the time with any story they tell. Of course when Tara Reede accused Biden of rape, he quickly called her a liar and sent his goons to harass her to the point where she felt unsafe and decided to go to Russia and ask for asylum there.
And she gets to decide that much later. We're seeing rape cases where the incident happened decades before the accusation.
@@neilreynolds3858 That's not new. This has been going on for many years already. Most of the Western world changed their "rape" laws to make it possible for "victims" to accuse someone of rape even after 50 years after the "rape" incident. Remember what happened to judge Kavanaugh a few years ago. His LYING FALSE RAPE ACCUSER alleged the "rape" took place some time in mid 80s ! Luckily, she was found to be a LIAR, just like 90% of all "rape victims".
Let me ask Janice a question. Do you have a single sister that perhaps thinks like you? Asking for a friend.
Can you imagine such a unicorn not getting snatched up?
This us a good reason to wait until marriage before having sex
Marraige doesn't make a difference. Have you actually been listening?
Marital rape is a thing, too
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I am just so frustrated over all of this. Its just..... not fair anymore. I think i migtow because feminism is just unbareble at this point.
MGTOW, not migtow.
Reverse Lysistrata sounds better and better: A total lack of relations, as Bill Clinton called it, until you have an enforceable contract covering all contingencies: In other words, marriage. This is why we used to believe in marriage laws. There were rules of conduct that protected both parties.
HO. LY. CRAP. ‼️ 🤯
Janice: The following is a logical argument, not an emotional one. So if you do see my comment, please read it thru to the end before wishing me de*th by a thousand hangnails, okay? 😆😆😆
I don't see "R" as a possibility in marriage and having it called such was indeed also a Feminist addition to the law. How can you "steal" (using YT friendly language here) from the other party, what was already willingly contracted to you by said party? And I know you (Janice) understand that marriage is a contract and what that contract really is.
Thus, I would propose to you, with great respect intended, that you can't have it both ways in your thinking, meaning that you cannot acknowledge what the marriage contract is in one video and then in another state that "every reasonable person" would call someone taking what was contracted to them "stealing" (the "R" word in this case).
But what we can object to, which "every reasonable person" who is logically consistent can agree with, is the method by which they "procured" what was contracted to them. I.e., the use of physical violence to do so, which is straight up "Assault"! If you have a contractual dispute, which is what it is since marriage is a legal contract, then no, you do not have the right to physically assault someone! Rather, you take them to court. Of course in this case a judge would not be able to enforce that function of the contract and so, the option, if the man chooses to proceed to court, would be to enter into Divorce Court. And of course, if he physically assaulted her instead, then he should no doubt be arrested for "Assault"!
Anyway, the above is a logically consistent way of looking at it, which thanks to Feminism, the law today no longer does, which your video also demonstrated quite well and thank you! I enjoy your videos quite a bit! 🙂
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