I agree, I work part time in a nursing home and one of the senoirs that I care for still thinks Babe is better, Ruth fans are living in the bubble and not in reality, they bring up Babe's overblown stats, that he out hit other teams, but refuse to realize that majority of the players on other teams in the league were working other jobs because they were'nt paying them enough money, they won't even make a double AA minor league team now. Babe played against coal miners and plumbers, and was'nt playing against the best players worldwide or even in this country. Now it's a full time job, athletes train just for baseball, players are bigger stronger faster, they train 362 days a year, and play against Worldwide Talent, even Casey Stengal said in 1962 the players are better then when he was playing against Ruth in his era, Shohie is even better as a pitcher, Babe never threw 100 mph or even 90 (his average pitch was high 80 mph ) If a time machine brought Babe to play today he'll be a good player (hit 20 HRs and maybe win 4 or 5 games most) but if Shohei goes to play in Babe's era no doupt he'll dominate (hit 70 to 80 HRs and Win 30 to 40 games) and even alot of Baseball historians said the same thing also, comparing todays game to a hundred years ago when the game was still early and not advanced to as it is now, and also the great players like Ohtani Acuna Judge if they were living in 1920s they won't be allowed to play in the Major leagues, or even guys like Pedro Bonds and Griffey would be banned playing in the Majors in Babes time. Even the foods are better now then a hundred years ago, instead of just pizza and speghetti, we now have all mix foods of taco's, soul food and sushi, three of my favorites.
Insensitive? I though it was Natural, you pass on what has been done too you to the next generation... Proving that Humans History Repeats itself, and all this BLM.... for show , Life is a Show Business.
Trout did it to himself. He signed a huge long term contract knowing what type of franchise they are. He wanted the lack of accountability and the great weather.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341I know it sucks because I wanted to see his career go crazy but dude is lazy. Could care less about his legacy. Otahni needs to get the heck out.
@@Richard-gw2lr Yep. He doesn't even do the things that made him such a great player before and won him that contract, like steal bases, or lay out for plays in the outfield. In addition, they have been load managing him for awhile now, sitting him in several games even though he's healthy. All those precautions, and he still gets hurt just from swinging the bat 🤦♂️. That speaks to the organization's indifference and ineptitude regarding fitness and health, and/or a lack of work ethic by Trout, who, quite frankly, is doing what most human beings would do if given hundreds of millions of guaranteed dollars, regardless of your production...not put in as much as effort as you did before all that guaranteed money.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341ur an idiot, trout got a crazy extension like 4 years ago. They routinely constructed terrible rosters around him when they had Trout on a reasonable contract.
I want to see Shohei Ohtani get traded to a contending team just so we can watch him in the playoffs. Shohei Ohtani has been in the MLB for 6 years and has not made the playoffs once. That is criminal because us as fans deserve to see him in the playoffs.
@TonySoprano-mm8ip Footy and Rugby are the biggest for us, then cricket, the basketball we could argue we have the 2nd best league in the world after the Nba, Football or Soccer you people call it is next, then Surfing and Netball (Women). I used to think baseball is so boring, but because Ohtani got me into it, there's something romantic and beautiful about it.. I used to think football/soccer is the most beautiful sport to watch, now its baseball for me
@@winterking9799well said. I think sports are all about the mythology and legend. You need individual heroes to build that mythos and bring people into the game. And I think baseball finally got someone like that in Ohtani. Thought it was gonna be judge but as good a hitter as he is it’s not enough to be transcendent. We’ve seen people hit 70 homers. We haven’t seen anyone be on pace for 60 and have a 3 era
I agree. I grew up in Scandinavia where baseball…🙄 But Ohtani is something that transcends baseball. He is a top athlete who makes you want to learn more about the intricate details of the sport. The team strategy, the position players agility, the power, the technical brilliance, pitchers control of the game, the batters skills and in split second evaluate the ball type, the enormous danger of being hit by that rocket (why they call it dead-ball) it can literally kill if hit bad. And all the toils behind. Ohtani makes you see the full connection of the different facets of the game, that’s the reason you finally understand baseball is an interesting sport Something novices can not see when the sport is so specialized by position.
I’m an Angels fan, and as much as it pains me to say it, I think we should trade him for a good return. Ohtani deserves to be in a wining team, and for whatever reason, it’s not working with Mike trout. Might be management, or the coaches, idk, but I’d much rather lose him for something than nothing. Now, if Ohtani wants to stay, then I’m all for it, but we need a complete overhaul of management and ownership.
@@tufoinproductions maybe, but it would be better for him to sign a big contract this year considering the year he's having and the fact that if he signs another one year deal and gets injured next year, he could lose the opportunity to have a massive contract
Angels have to trade him. He’s already said he wants to play for a contender-that’s not them. Get a King’s ransom for him and you will be set up for the future.
If this was before the year I would have said to trade him, but as of now, the angels are in the playoff hunt. You trade ohtani when the angels r losing, angels fans will be upset, but understand it. U trade him now, and the angels will lose their entire fan base
@@yashtalaulikar3727 the angels just lost trout for like two months , rendon got injured too ; unless guys like David fetcher and Taylor ward can carry the angels offense with Ohtani while they r gone the angels playoff hopes r done
They actually got a good roster... problem is injuries. Their entire starting infield and their starting catcher are on the injured list. Before the bulk of their injuries they were over .500 and had one of the wild card spots.
While fun to think about, there are several issues with that: 1) It would be impossible for Atlanta to get Ohtani without giving up some of that lineup in return... you can't simply trade for him with top prospects and draft picks, you'd have to throw in a big name or two... 2) The Braves notoriously don't open their wallets too much, both in terms of yearly salary and total amount (they have one $200 million player in their history, Austin Riley for 10y/$212m signed last year)... you wouldn't dare trade away everything to get him for the remainder of this season if you weren't going to try to also sign him and make no mistake about it, Ohtani wants (and will get) $500-$600 million... and 3) Atlanta would almost certainly have a Ronald Acuna problem sooner than later, as he's under contract for three more years at only $12.5 million/year. Given he's the best player in the NL, he will likely ask to renegotiate for $300-$400 million. So like I said, it would be fun to think about, but virtually impossible.
We needed to trade last year. We are comited to Otani and have been since buying him from Japan. I pleased with him staying and if they trade they will botch it😢
The Angels are like the Yanks; a theme park turning a profit over their star attractions. They won't trade Shohei anymore than NY was willing to let Judge walk.
When I heard about Ohtani then put his talents on full display I couldn’t help but applaud him. Other than that I really believe the Angels will let him walk out the door.
@@daebak7370 Well let’s just say that in baseball there’s sometimes the best players on bad teams that don’t go anywhere which is why teams try to trade them for like boat load of prospects to start over. Angels really haven’t been to the playoffs since 2014 and they got 2 of the top players and still haven’t went anywhere.
@@corbencarter-dixon5758 wouldn't it make sense to trade trout between the two considering ohtani is the superior player or is it bc hes locked in long term contract?
@@daebak7370 Well tbh in my opinion Trout could’ve walked or got traded a long time ago but because Trout got signed to that 12yr $426M contract (fully guaranteed) it’s going to be hard to trade him because it’s going to be hard for a team to take on that contract
Texas Rangers? You don't trade within the division. Please bring the right baseball experts for this kind of debate. Also Ohtani is not the closest thing to Ruth, he is unicorn. Ruth never dominated pitching and hitting at the same time the way Ohtani is doing past 3 years.
I feel you on this but realistically even if my Astros or rangers get him, it’s only a rental Dude is going to dodgers mariners Mets or Yankees that’s the bottom line
Unless you plan on re-signing him, and the Angle Owners already know this, you have to trade him at the deadline. You can't lose him for nothing. That would be a complete disaster for the Angles Org. The fans 100% will be ok with this. You can get 2-3 solid players plus a handful of picks
He’s the only reason why the angels have fans in the seats everyday…I have been a fan all my life and I’ve never seen the stadium as full as I have these last few seasons…if they get rid of him now attendance will be at 20-25 % capacity compared to the 75-100% it is now….you have to be retared to trade your ticket getter for prospects that will be worth nothing …I would rather have faith we compete these next few months and make the playoffs and convince him he should stay
@@brandonfernandez1981 it’s not about convincing him at all. It’s about the Angles having the money and willingness to spend it on 1 player, 2 if you want to be technical about it lol. For me, if I was the Angles, I would sign him. Money be dammed, like you said, he packs the house, who won’t buy his jersey? He is a money making machine.
I wish he'd come to the Mariners, but that ship is not going anywhere. I guess if he wants to stay in SoCal, the Dodgers would be better team for him than staying in Anaheim.
The Angels will try to resign him. Why would they trade him? The media desperately wants to get him away from the Angels and to play for the Yankees or Dodgers... how boring is that? I loved how players used to stick with one team like Ripken/O's, Gwynn/Pads, Brett/Royals, Yount/Brewers, etc. Thank God none of them got traded to the Yankees.
It's too late to trade him, Angels would've got ALL the prospects in the world if they traded him last year. Why would any team trade for him if they have a good chance at signing him during the off season? All the good and contending teams have the budget to get him. Why give up important pieces just for a few months of Ohtani? For the Angels, and the rest of the league, it's best for Ohtani to stay in Anaheim for the rest of the season.
@@Tyler_Pifer92 Fried is leaving at the end of the year. Harris is the trade chip to get Ohtani who would push the Braves to the WS. Should they make the trade and go, Ohtani stays in Atlanta.
They should have traded Ohtani last year and the Angels would of gotten a huge haul for him. This year they will get very little because he will be a free agent when the season ends.
Stephen A. talking about being in Los Angeles all the time, driving by Angels' stadium, and that it "looks very nice"... unless he's checking out what's in Santa Ana or Disneyland, no way he's ever been that far southeast of downtown.
He says LA. The Angels don't play there. He doenst know what he's talking about. Saying nobody cares when they draw 3 million fans every year with a losing team...
Uh, you do understand that he'd drive past Angels stadium if he were going to Newport Beach, Laguna Beach, San Clemente, etc. Not sure why you assume he'd be going to Santa Ana?
@@ClockworkOrangeABC- I understand. I'm assuming he doesn't leave LA when he's working. Also, not everyone would cut through Anaheim to get to those destinations.
5:03 SAS has been "told". Are we certain that he's fixated on a warm weather climate city? Ohtani grew up in a town with a comparable climate to NYC. I don't think he cares about that, since he's not playing in the winter anyway
i agree with Mad Dog. trading ohtani for prospects (that may end up failing anyways) is dumb. keep the best player in the game. chances slim as they are, go for a wildcard spot. and just hope for the best that the angels can do well enough to sign him to a long term contract.
I'm a firm believer that if you don't believe he will stay long term and don't want him to walk away for nothing, you get as much back as possible. OKC with KD is a prime example
@shotimedodgersfans3106 the players decision at the end of the day. Half a billion plus would be hard to say no to. Even for the greatest player on earth.
People seem to forget we were a top 5 team before the injuries…we have a good team, we lost many games that should’ve been wins…our bullpen is the only thing that’s been shaky ..as far as scoring runs that’s easy for this team…the loss of Neto , urshella and trout was big but I believe we can hunt down that wild card spot
Exactly. I love how everyone assumes that Ohtani will automatically leave the Angels as a free agent. If anything, the Angels should be the front runner in resigning him. Ohtani loves playing for the Angels, loves Southern California, and he wants to win with the Angels.
Agreed. The Angels are severely banged up. They need to be buyers, not sellers. Get Goldschmidt and a starting pitcher at the deadline. The left side of the infield (Rendon, Neto) comes back after the break and Jo Adell will get a good look with Trout out. Mike Trout has not been the same this season, his BA is low and his strikeouts are ridiculously high. This is the time to make a trade, but be a buyer, and make a run at the playoffs. That is the only way to keep Ohtani. He has just a good a chance with the Angels than he does with the Yankees or Mets.
Ohtani made me watch this ESPN clown show, he's the GOAT just for that. I cannot believe I wasted 6:55 min of my life watching official Ohtani hater Chris Loud Mouth Mad Dog Russo and official Ohtani hater Yelling A. Smith opine about the GREAT Shohei when they've spent the past years downplaying and diminishing his greatness. Shohei is the GOAT imo, IDC what anybody says. He should not be compared to Babe Ruth, he is far better than Ruth. Ruth wasn't throwing 103. Let's stop romanticizing and over-aggrandizing the (segregated) past.
Ok , let’s think now , the selling point is he will fill seats . Of the teams he will get paid to go to , how many seats are available to sell , compared to their current attendance? Even consider how many games he will pitch and how many seats are available empty to sell ? Will he sell them all ?
@@NinjaSquirrel30dude. I can't stand yankee fans but they are a perennial playoff team every year. That's more then the Angels can offer him and I'm a huge Ohtani fan.
@@phuckfumassters The Yankees are top heavy (big, dumb contracts) and injured. They will be trailing Tampa and Baltimore for the next 5 -7 years. There is now way Ohtani looks at the Yankees as a long term option.
Ohtani is on pace to hit 60+ but mad dog is a ohtani hater. Saw blood on his lips forced to give praise. He wanted to say 35 but ohtani already has 31 and the hater within would've shined too bright 😎
I saw an old RUclips clip when Mad Dog was talking so much s--about Ohtani when he arrived and had some struggles in the spring training! He said so much mean things and laughed like a hyena (hiii hiiii ehehe) and then Shohei hit three consecutive bombs in the first week of the start of season….
Lol, Mad Dog out here saying that if they trade Ohtani the Angels gonna be cursed like Boston was. Man, they already cursed. They had Ohtani and Trout together for five years and did not win anything. Well, I also think it has a lot to do with the owner being content with having big names to sell tickets. Instead of having a good team to sell tickets. This year has been the only real year that they have tried to build the team up to help them win. The reason for that is because they want to keep Ohtani and winning is the only way. But I know that if Ohtani signs they will stop trying and go back to being mediocre. While using the big names to sell as much stuff as they can.
Ohtani will be a Dodger, whether that's by august 1st, or in the winter, and heres why. The Dodger's only have 1 big contract on their books, that is Mookie's, with a bunch of differed money as to stay payroll flexible. The reason they didn't offer Trea a 300+ mill contract is because Dodger brass was waiting for Ohtani. A core 3 of Mookie, Freddie, Ohtani will be box office, and most likely bring home at least 2 rings. The Padres can't afford him, seeing as they already have a billion dedicated to 3 guys, with another likely to get 400+, that they gave away their WHOLE farm for. The Mets have shown that they can throw around money, but haven't shown that they can be a powerhouse in the NL. The Yankees already have a billion dedicated to 3 guys, and were hesitant to give their reigning MVP the money he deserved. Finally, the Mariners and the Giants. The Giants are still in the infancy of a full on rebuild, and the Mariners are not even close to becoming dangerous in the AL, and no just because Ohtani has respect for Ichiro does not mean that he wants to play in the same uniform as him. The Dodgers and Ohtani are a perfect fit, a match made in heaven, and it will happen.
5:13 As a Giants fan, Ohtani going to the Dodgers would be a nightmare for me and if he goes to the Yankees, ESPN may actually start talking about Baseball instead of Bronny 24/7.
Being an Angels fam is like being a Knicks fan….Stephan A. can relate to that😂😂😂😂, Angels are irrelevant right now in baseball like the Knicks are in Basketball LOL
Only to the Yankees. His talents belong in the Bronx. Imagine a lineup with Sho. Judge and Stanton and a rotation with Sho and Cole. The Yankees would be unstoppable
Lol, no. How many HR's does Stanton have this year? Less than Angel's backup catcher's I think. You can add Ohtani's stats to the Yankees right now and they're still not near the Ray's or Braves.
Not to mention, NY fans & media culture would destroy his love and passion for the game. This is a man who is out of the spotlight because he has no time for the spotlight, while yall are doing commercials and kissing reporters and fans rear ends he is counting macros, reps and sheep.
@cupchamp5 No doubt he is a top 10 starter in all of baseball, but as he has proven in LA, 1 man cannot make the difference. The Yankees would certainly be better with him, but unstoppable is not on the table. Now if Judge is back, and hot along with Stanton and Volpe continues, seeing Ohtani added in would be fun. No doubt. Adding Ohtani to the Braves right now would make an unstoppable team, though.
If he refuses whatever they offer ($500M+) or he refuses to give them a number, they must trade him. It would be organizational suicide if they didn't.
Stephan A made Mad Dogs points for him. The Ruth trade was a travesty and considered the worst trade all time by the team that traded him. Also you say Ohtani only likes playing in the LA weather? Well, I'm not too scared about him going somewhere else now then am I ? Lol if this was any other sport the move would definitely be to trade him but in baseball wild card teams have just as good a chance as the top seeds to win it all..ur only three games out, I think I ride it out. But I don't know the intricacies of baseball gming philosophy like I do other sports so maybe I'm on the wrong side of the argument here.
You're right on the money. There's zero incentive for the Angels to trade Ohtani. 1) They'd be throwing in the towel on a season where they're over .500 and have a shot at the postseason. 2) They'd lose the fanbase who will stop showing up to the games. 3) They'd lose millions on sponsorships and merchandising. 4) They'd lose any possibility of resigning Ohtani.
I genuinely don't understand baseball. It's unbelievable in other sports for a team to trade their generational talent just because he's in his last year of a contract.
I’m so glad Stephen A Smith is talking about Ohtani. It needed to happen. Stephen A draws viewers and we need a man of that caliber talking about him. I know what he said, but he apologized and we can move forward. Shotani needs SAS.
Yankee ownership is about profit over winning, they just signed Judge and make money whether they win or not. I doubt they pull out half a billion for him.
besides mad dog get the actual baseball reporters and people of the game in there. not no football reporters and basketball please bring in the people that actually follow the game and know the game ESPN
As great as Ohtani is, I'm not giving up my farm system for a 2 month rental. Didn't work out so well when the Dodgers got Darvish. Lost 2 world series games for them. I'd give up maybe one decent guy and a draft pick, but that's it. If the Dodgers or Yankees are serious about making a run for him next winter, it actually wouldn't hurt to make sure he can handle playing in a big market before giving him 10 years, half a billion guaranteed.
Can they trade Trout too once he is of IL? If so they should consider it. If you can't make it happen with Trout AND Ohtani on your team, how are you going to win after a retool around Trout? Even if you get a star player for Ohtani, he's the best player in the league. How is the #3 or 4 best player going to make the situation any better?
In Major League Baseball, it never works trading for already stars. You only trade for guys that could turn into stars. I would not give up anything even for Ohtani.
Ohtani made me watch baseball again. Pure greatness!!!
He’s the reason why I started watching baseball
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@@PlayoffP69same
Same. Wife like the Dodgers. I'm hoping he heads there.
I want the Lakers to sign Ohtani, they need a shooting guard and a back up center..
Too short to play center, but point guard is 👍
Maybe the LA Kings can sign Shohei, he can play center and goalie like Gretzky and Patrick Roy
@@trevorcarey3997Kings have to many centers right now, they just overpaid for one
@@CasuallyCommentingBaseThingswho?
Lmao!
Ohtani is why I came back to MLB. He is goat and amazing.
I agree, I work part time in a nursing home and one of the senoirs that I care for still thinks Babe is better, Ruth fans are living in the bubble and not in reality, they bring up Babe's overblown stats, that he out hit other teams, but refuse to realize that majority of the players on other teams in the league were working other jobs because they were'nt paying them enough money, they won't even make a double AA minor league team now. Babe played against coal miners and plumbers, and was'nt playing against the best players worldwide or even in this country. Now it's a full time job, athletes train just for baseball, players are bigger stronger faster, they train 362 days a year, and play against Worldwide Talent, even Casey Stengal said in 1962 the players are better then when he was playing against Ruth in his era, Shohie is even better as a pitcher, Babe never threw 100 mph or even 90 (his average pitch was high 80 mph ) If a time machine brought Babe to play today he'll be a good player (hit 20 HRs and maybe win 4 or 5 games most) but if Shohei goes to play in Babe's era no doupt he'll dominate (hit 70 to 80 HRs and Win 30 to 40 games) and even alot of Baseball historians said the same thing also, comparing todays game to a hundred years ago when the game was still early and not advanced to as it is now, and also the great players like Ohtani Acuna Judge if they were living in 1920s they won't be allowed to play in the Major leagues, or even guys like Pedro Bonds and Griffey would be banned playing in the Majors in Babes time. Even the foods are better now then a hundred years ago, instead of just pizza and speghetti, we now have all mix foods of taco's, soul food and sushi, three of my favorites.
Insensitive? I though it was Natural, you pass on what has been done too you to the next generation...
Proving that Humans History Repeats itself, and all this BLM.... for show , Life is a Show Business.
It's not everyday a franchise manages to consecutively waste the talents of 2 generational players. Way to go, Angels!
Trout did it to himself. He signed a huge long term contract knowing what type of franchise they are. He wanted the lack of accountability and the great weather.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341I know it sucks because I wanted to see his career go crazy but dude is lazy. Could care less about his legacy. Otahni needs to get the heck out.
@@Richard-gw2lr Yep. He doesn't even do the things that made him such a great player before and won him that contract, like steal bases, or lay out for plays in the outfield. In addition, they have been load managing him for awhile now, sitting him in several games even though he's healthy. All those precautions, and he still gets hurt just from swinging the bat 🤦♂️. That speaks to the organization's indifference and ineptitude regarding fitness and health, and/or a lack of work ethic by Trout, who, quite frankly, is doing what most human beings would do if given hundreds of millions of guaranteed dollars, regardless of your production...not put in as much as effort as you did before all that guaranteed money.
But it’s every day that people make stupid comments way to go Ian.
@@boxingandbulldogs6341ur an idiot, trout got a crazy extension like 4 years ago. They routinely constructed terrible rosters around him when they had Trout on a reasonable contract.
I want to see Shohei Ohtani get traded to a contending team just so we can watch him in the playoffs. Shohei Ohtani has been in the MLB for 6 years and has not made the playoffs once. That is criminal because us as fans deserve to see him in the playoffs.
Ohtani got me into baseball I'm from Australia, we don't watch that sport here lol
This might be a dumb question but what sport do y'all watch over there?
@TonySoprano-mm8ip Footy and Rugby are the biggest for us, then cricket, the basketball we could argue we have the 2nd best league in the world after the Nba, Football or Soccer you people call it is next, then Surfing and Netball (Women).
I used to think baseball is so boring, but because Ohtani got me into it, there's something romantic and beautiful about it.. I used to think football/soccer is the most beautiful sport to watch, now its baseball for me
@@winterking9799well said. I think sports are all about the mythology and legend. You need individual heroes to build that mythos and bring people into the game. And I think baseball finally got someone like that in Ohtani. Thought it was gonna be judge but as good a hitter as he is it’s not enough to be transcendent. We’ve seen people hit 70 homers. We haven’t seen anyone be on pace for 60 and have a 3 era
I agree. I grew up in Scandinavia where baseball…🙄 But Ohtani is something that transcends baseball. He is a top athlete who makes you want to learn more about the intricate details of the sport.
The team strategy, the position players agility, the power, the technical brilliance, pitchers control of the game, the batters skills and in split second evaluate the ball type, the enormous danger of being hit by that rocket (why they call it dead-ball) it can literally kill if hit bad. And all the toils behind.
Ohtani makes you see the full connection of the different facets of the game, that’s the reason you finally understand baseball is an interesting sport
Something novices can not see when the sport is so specialized by position.
@@winterking9799 what are yout rhoughts on ben simmons
Shohei got espn talking baseball in the morning lol
ESPN and talking baseball, name a more uniconic duo.
considering he is not with the Yankees and Red Sox
I’m an Angels fan, and as much as it pains me to say it, I think we should trade him for a good return. Ohtani deserves to be in a wining team, and for whatever reason, it’s not working with Mike trout. Might be management, or the coaches, idk, but I’d much rather lose him for something than nothing. Now, if Ohtani wants to stay, then I’m all for it, but we need a complete overhaul of management and ownership.
The swing and miss on Rendon is gonna set the franchise back for a few more seasons.
Trouts always hurt angels need to trade both and start over
Unless Ohtani tells them to trade him he'll be on the Angels till the end of the season
I think he will also stay with them for his next contract... He seems happy there
@@elisamuelpedraza8228 i can see him giving them one more contract. 1 year 40M. If they aren't in the race by all star break then they'll trade him
@@tufoinproductions maybe, but it would be better for him to sign a big contract this year considering the year he's having and the fact that if he signs another one year deal and gets injured next year, he could lose the opportunity to have a massive contract
@@tufoinproductionsbro he ain't signing a one year contract lol.
@@tufoinproductionsHe can sign a contract with player options and trade clauses. He can have a multi year deal with all the control
Please do more Baseball Segments!!
Please don't do more Baseball Segments!!
@@NoShoes225do more
Sadly if it’s only Yankees, Dodgers or Ohtani related. 😢
With trout out for 2 months, let the man go to a contender so fans can watch him in the post season. 🙏 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Angels have to trade him. He’s already said he wants to play for a contender-that’s not them.
Get a King’s ransom for him and you will be set up for the future.
They messed up. Should have traded him last season. Gonna be hard to trade a guy for a few months when he can leave them as well.
I have no faith they'll do anything with whatever they get back. At least we can suffer with an MVP for another half season.
If this was before the year I would have said to trade him, but as of now, the angels are in the playoff hunt. You trade ohtani when the angels r losing, angels fans will be upset, but understand it. U trade him now, and the angels will lose their entire fan base
@@yashtalaulikar3727 the angels just lost trout for like two months , rendon got injured too ; unless guys like David fetcher and Taylor ward can carry the angels offense with Ohtani while they r gone the angels playoff hopes r done
The Yankees will pick him up for those few months. Then pay him 700 million for 10 years!
Baseball is the only topic I want to hear what Mad Dog had to say
“No one cares about youre irrelevant” that was cold
He's a moron.
I like this female journalist. Pretty smart and prepared
Angels are not winning with that roster and Trout always hurt
And Rendon. Nightmare roster
@@JasonJia909Trade Trout
@@cjfrm3658 that...would be fascinating
@@JasonJia909 I'm saying we not winning with them it's not Thier fault but why pay both
They actually got a good roster... problem is injuries. Their entire starting infield and their starting catcher are on the injured list. Before the bulk of their injuries they were over .500 and had one of the wild card spots.
The ending was savage lol
very true....and so will his layoff that's upcoming....
@@shahidmufti795
We all know that’s a dream keep wishing on a Star 🌟 😮😂
Ohtani in Atlanta would be insane. That might be the best lineup since the 27 Yankees
You mean with the Astros !
That would be KD to the Warriors on steroids
They don’t got the farm to trade for him and I doubt they would pay him his worth
While fun to think about, there are several issues with that: 1) It would be impossible for Atlanta to get Ohtani without giving up some of that lineup in return... you can't simply trade for him with top prospects and draft picks, you'd have to throw in a big name or two... 2) The Braves notoriously don't open their wallets too much, both in terms of yearly salary and total amount (they have one $200 million player in their history, Austin Riley for 10y/$212m signed last year)... you wouldn't dare trade away everything to get him for the remainder of this season if you weren't going to try to also sign him and make no mistake about it, Ohtani wants (and will get) $500-$600 million... and 3) Atlanta would almost certainly have a Ronald Acuna problem sooner than later, as he's under contract for three more years at only $12.5 million/year. Given he's the best player in the NL, he will likely ask to renegotiate for $300-$400 million. So like I said, it would be fun to think about, but virtually impossible.
@@chili015most of what you said is right except ronald is signed through 2029
You guys are awesome 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
We needed to trade last year. We are comited to Otani and have been since buying him from Japan. I pleased with him staying and if they trade they will botch it😢
The Angels are like the Yanks; a theme park turning a profit over their star attractions. They won't trade Shohei anymore than NY was willing to let Judge walk.
When I heard about Ohtani then put his talents on full display I couldn’t help but applaud him. Other than that I really believe the Angels will let him walk out the door.
I don't follow baseball but why would a franchise tried to trade the best player in baseball or let him walk? Doesn't make sense to me
@@daebak7370 If they don't, he walks out the door as a free agent at the end of this year...
@@daebak7370 Well let’s just say that in baseball there’s sometimes the best players on bad teams that don’t go anywhere which is why teams try to trade them for like boat load of prospects to start over. Angels really haven’t been to the playoffs since 2014 and they got 2 of the top players and still haven’t went anywhere.
@@corbencarter-dixon5758 wouldn't it make sense to trade trout between the two considering ohtani is the superior player or is it bc hes locked in long term contract?
@@daebak7370 Well tbh in my opinion Trout could’ve walked or got traded a long time ago but because Trout got signed to that 12yr $426M contract (fully guaranteed) it’s going to be hard to trade him because it’s going to be hard for a team to take on that contract
Texas Rangers? You don't trade within the division. Please bring the right baseball experts for this kind of debate. Also Ohtani is not the closest thing to Ruth, he is unicorn. Ruth never dominated pitching and hitting at the same time the way Ohtani is doing past 3 years.
I feel you on this but realistically even if my Astros or rangers get him, it’s only a rental
Dude is going to dodgers mariners Mets or Yankees that’s the bottom line
Im not sure who are these women are but they are speaking sense and I wish them a long career
Thank God they finally talked baseball instead of basketball the entire show.
coz Baseball is much more technical , basketball is like more a mindless game fit for this mindless people of espn
@@ramcisvillarey5816lol or it's just boring AF.
Unless you plan on re-signing him, and the Angle Owners already know this, you have to trade him at the deadline. You can't lose him for nothing. That would be a complete disaster for the Angles Org. The fans 100% will be ok with this. You can get 2-3 solid players plus a handful of picks
He’s the only reason why the angels have fans in the seats everyday…I have been a fan all my life and I’ve never seen the stadium as full as I have these last few seasons…if they get rid of him now attendance will be at 20-25 % capacity compared to the 75-100% it is now….you have to be retared to trade your ticket getter for prospects that will be worth nothing …I would rather have faith we compete these next few months and make the playoffs and convince him he should stay
@@brandonfernandez1981 it’s not about convincing him at all. It’s about the Angles having the money and willingness to spend it on 1 player, 2 if you want to be technical about it lol.
For me, if I was the Angles, I would sign him. Money be dammed, like you said, he packs the house, who won’t buy his jersey? He is a money making machine.
Mad Dog shouldn't be allowed to discuss baseball anymore..
I feel he wants to stay in Southern California. It’s close to getting home to Japan. But he won’t have any choice if he gets traded.
I wish he'd come to the Mariners, but that ship is not going anywhere. I guess if he wants to stay in SoCal, the Dodgers would be better team for him than staying in Anaheim.
@@NK-qx6kk I always see him as a guy who prioritizes his family first before baseball so he’d really want to stick around the West Coast.
@@rcvillapandowhat family? He is single. Your making up stuff
@@phuckfumassters parents and countrymen
I completely agree with Mad Dog Russo, “No Way” are Angels 😇 trading Ohtani before the season ends, won’t happen.
The Angels will try to resign him. Why would they trade him? The media desperately wants to get him away from the Angels and to play for the Yankees or Dodgers... how boring is that? I loved how players used to stick with one team like Ripken/O's, Gwynn/Pads, Brett/Royals, Yount/Brewers, etc. Thank God none of them got traded to the Yankees.
Do we not remember what happend last time a two way player was traded? I don't think the angels want that curse on them
The angels already have a curse on them lol
I dont know if they should trade him or not, but i do know hes priceless!!!
It's too late to trade him, Angels would've got ALL the prospects in the world if they traded him last year. Why would any team trade for him if they have a good chance at signing him during the off season? All the good and contending teams have the budget to get him. Why give up important pieces just for a few months of Ohtani? For the Angels, and the rest of the league, it's best for Ohtani to stay in Anaheim for the rest of the season.
Hope he stays in the west coast. Im travelling in september to the us, specifically CA. Praying Im able to catch a Ohtani game
Braves have a lot of assets
We could trade a few and a pitcher for him. WS bound anyway but hed be a great add of course.
I think I would be willing to trade Fried and Money Mike with some picks and PTBNLs for Ohtani.
That would be straight up unfair if the Braves got Ohtani
They have no prospects to give.
@@CalvinHavenerFried and Michael Harris for 2 months of Ohtani?? Are you insane?
@@Tyler_Pifer92 Fried is leaving at the end of the year. Harris is the trade chip to get Ohtani who would push the Braves to the WS. Should they make the trade and go, Ohtani stays in Atlanta.
Stephenasmith has never liked ohtani.
They should have traded Ohtani last year and the Angels would of gotten a huge haul for him. This year they will get very little because he will be a free agent when the season ends.
IF they Trade Ohtani... they are better off trading Trout too
Ohtani and Trout deserve better than the angels honestly
I honestly dont see how you cant trade him except for the fact he might not be trade-able. Meaning a team would have to give up a ton to get him.
As a Angel fan, Ohtani was the reason why i started watching and even going to the games. If he leaves i leave too.
They need to keep Ohtani annnnd get rid of the LA name and go back to the Anaheim Angels
Stephen A. talking about being in Los Angeles all the time, driving by Angels' stadium, and that it "looks very nice"... unless he's checking out what's in Santa Ana or Disneyland, no way he's ever been that far southeast of downtown.
What’s wrong with Santa Ana?
@@cjdavalos - Not a thing. When SAS is in LA, he likes to go out in LA. He's not going to Anaheim.
He says LA. The Angels don't play there. He doenst know what he's talking about. Saying nobody cares when they draw 3 million fans every year with a losing team...
Uh, you do understand that he'd drive past Angels stadium if he were going to Newport Beach, Laguna Beach, San Clemente, etc. Not sure why you assume he'd be going to Santa Ana?
@@ClockworkOrangeABC- I understand. I'm assuming he doesn't leave LA when he's working. Also, not everyone would cut through Anaheim to get to those destinations.
5:03 SAS has been "told". Are we certain that he's fixated on a warm weather climate city? Ohtani grew up in a town with a comparable climate to NYC. I don't think he cares about that, since he's not playing in the winter anyway
i agree with Mad Dog. trading ohtani for prospects (that may end up failing anyways) is dumb. keep the best player in the game. chances slim as they are, go for a wildcard spot. and just hope for the best that the angels can do well enough to sign him to a long term contract.
Trading Ohtani is like trading Jokic.
@@JesseWill they don’t know if he’s leaving or not. He said he loves the area. It’s like DAME in Portland, he’s too good for such a horrible team.
What about cinncy
I'm a firm believer that if you don't believe he will stay long term and don't want him to walk away for nothing, you get as much back as possible. OKC with KD is a prime example
stephen a needs to never talk about ohtani he dont know baseball
Angels showld wait til' the season is over and offer him a big contract. That will make it easier for the Dodgers to sign him.
I dont think he's going anywhere. I think Angels sign him to a 550m contract very soon.
Ohtani Agent say no extension after the season end. That mean his walking to free agent.
@shotimedodgersfans3106 the players decision at the end of the day. Half a billion plus would be hard to say no to. Even for the greatest player on earth.
People seem to forget we were a top 5 team before the injuries…we have a good team, we lost many games that should’ve been wins…our bullpen is the only thing that’s been shaky ..as far as scoring runs that’s easy for this team…the loss of Neto , urshella and trout was big but I believe we can hunt down that wild card spot
I'm just happy to see Mad Dog giving Ohtani credit. He and Mike Francesa rarely mention him (and we know why)...
Yes.
Whoever this new chick is they need to keep her on. She knows her stuff 👌🏾
And she’s nice and quiet
Wow they actually talked baseball without a negative topic 👏
Mets and Dodgers will put up at least 750 mil for him imo he's that great but let's see
If ur a baseball franchise and you are NOT interested in acquiring Ohtani, you need to rethink ur priorities.
Reason they don’t have a winning record is pitching and Artie Moreno!
Maddog's retort to Stephen A is "But what if curses are real?"
Ohtani is the best baseball player I have ever seen all around and the angels would be insane to trade this guy.
Exactly. I love how everyone assumes that Ohtani will automatically leave the Angels as a free agent. If anything, the Angels should be the front runner in resigning him. Ohtani loves playing for the Angels, loves Southern California, and he wants to win with the Angels.
Agreed. The Angels are severely banged up. They need to be buyers, not sellers. Get Goldschmidt and a starting pitcher at the deadline. The left side of the infield (Rendon, Neto) comes back after the break and Jo Adell will get a good look with Trout out. Mike Trout has not been the same this season, his BA is low and his strikeouts are ridiculously high. This is the time to make a trade, but be a buyer, and make a run at the playoffs. That is the only way to keep Ohtani. He has just a good a chance with the Angels than he does with the Yankees or Mets.
mad dog is actually hilarious man😂😂😂😂
Ohtani made me watch this ESPN clown show, he's the GOAT just for that. I cannot believe I wasted 6:55 min of my life watching official Ohtani hater Chris Loud Mouth Mad Dog Russo and official Ohtani hater Yelling A. Smith opine about the GREAT Shohei when they've spent the past years downplaying and diminishing his greatness. Shohei is the GOAT imo, IDC what anybody says. He should not be compared to Babe Ruth, he is far better than Ruth. Ruth wasn't throwing 103. Let's stop romanticizing and over-aggrandizing the (segregated) past.
Ok , let’s think now , the selling point is he will fill seats . Of the teams he will get paid to go to , how many seats are available to sell , compared to their current attendance? Even consider how many games he will pitch and how many seats are available empty to sell ? Will he sell them all ?
We’ll gladly take him in the Bronx
Contenders he said
Not as relevant as you guys like to think when last time you won WS? 20 years?
@@NinjaSquirrel30dude. I can't stand yankee fans but they are a perennial playoff team every year. That's more then the Angels can offer him and I'm a huge Ohtani fan.
@@phuckfumasstersmight not make it this year
@@phuckfumassters The Yankees are top heavy (big, dumb contracts) and injured. They will be trailing Tampa and Baltimore for the next 5 -7 years. There is now way Ohtani looks at the Yankees as a long term option.
courtney knows her stuff
As an Angels fan, I wish the Angels got more slander content like this so more people are aware of the team’s incompetence.
Ohtani to Dodgers! Let's go!
New York is brought up not surprise 😭😭😭🤦🏾♂️
He thinks ohtani is only hitting 40-45 home runs. If it was Judge, he would say 55 Homeruns this season
He refuses to be caught over estimating ANYTHING regarding Ohtani.
Ohtani is on pace to hit 60+ but mad dog is a ohtani hater. Saw blood on his lips forced to give praise. He wanted to say 35 but ohtani already has 31 and the hater within would've shined too bright 😎
I saw an old RUclips clip when Mad Dog was talking so much s--about Ohtani when he arrived and had some struggles in the spring training! He said so much mean things and laughed like a hyena (hiii hiiii ehehe) and then Shohei hit three consecutive bombs in the first week of the start of season….
He'll likely end up with 50-60 home runs.
They just want him to go to the Yankees
in general they want him go to a a contender team bc it ratings
@@pancho2235 The Yankees
Yup😊
He is like Damian Lillard. Ohtani deserves to go to a winning team. Idk what he really want. Dodgers, yankees, braves. Astors, surprise move Rays
Lol, Mad Dog out here saying that if they trade Ohtani the Angels gonna be cursed like Boston was. Man, they already cursed. They had Ohtani and Trout together for five years and did not win anything. Well, I also think it has a lot to do with the owner being content with having big names to sell tickets. Instead of having a good team to sell tickets. This year has been the only real year that they have tried to build the team up to help them win. The reason for that is because they want to keep Ohtani and winning is the only way. But I know that if Ohtani signs they will stop trying and go back to being mediocre. While using the big names to sell as much stuff as they can.
Ohtani will be a Dodger, whether that's by august 1st, or in the winter, and heres why. The Dodger's only have 1 big contract on their books, that is Mookie's, with a bunch of differed money as to stay payroll flexible. The reason they didn't offer Trea a 300+ mill contract is because Dodger brass was waiting for Ohtani. A core 3 of Mookie, Freddie, Ohtani will be box office, and most likely bring home at least 2 rings. The Padres can't afford him, seeing as they already have a billion dedicated to 3 guys, with another likely to get 400+, that they gave away their WHOLE farm for. The Mets have shown that they can throw around money, but haven't shown that they can be a powerhouse in the NL. The Yankees already have a billion dedicated to 3 guys, and were hesitant to give their reigning MVP the money he deserved. Finally, the Mariners and the Giants. The Giants are still in the infancy of a full on rebuild, and the Mariners are not even close to becoming dangerous in the AL, and no just because Ohtani has respect for Ichiro does not mean that he wants to play in the same uniform as him. The Dodgers and Ohtani are a perfect fit, a match made in heaven, and it will happen.
Also cause trea preferred the east coast over the west coast
San Diego might be good, has absolutely beautiful climate and waves...
5:13 As a Giants fan, Ohtani going to the Dodgers would be a nightmare for me and if he goes to the Yankees, ESPN may actually start talking about Baseball instead of Bronny 24/7.
I wish Ohtani would go to the Giants. I would love a Giants team built around the guy and have another dynasty to rival the early 2010’s.
Yo did you hear what Bronny had for breakfast this morning?! Crazy
@@J4kee 🤣🤣
Being an Angels fam is like being a Knicks fan….Stephan A. can relate to that😂😂😂😂, Angels are irrelevant right now in baseball like the Knicks are in Basketball LOL
Except when was the last time the Knicks had the two best players in the game?
Come on over to my Giants
I can actually see him get traded to Atlanta or Houston those are the top contenders
Atlanta would have to give up Spencer Strider and Michael Harris
Talk more about Shohei Ohtani/Baseball
Only to the Yankees. His talents belong in the Bronx. Imagine a lineup with Sho. Judge and Stanton and a rotation with Sho and Cole. The Yankees would be unstoppable
They still wouldn’t win shiiiiii
Lol, no. How many HR's does Stanton have this year? Less than Angel's backup catcher's I think. You can add Ohtani's stats to the Yankees right now and they're still not near the Ray's or Braves.
Not to mention, NY fans & media culture would destroy his love and passion for the game. This is a man who is out of the spotlight because he has no time for the spotlight, while yall are doing commercials and kissing reporters and fans rear ends he is counting macros, reps and sheep.
@@CoachAndrew77 and what about his pitching talents? Don't forget he is a great pitcher.
@cupchamp5 No doubt he is a top 10 starter in all of baseball, but as he has proven in LA, 1 man cannot make the difference. The Yankees would certainly be better with him, but unstoppable is not on the table. Now if Judge is back, and hot along with Stanton and Volpe continues, seeing Ohtani added in would be fun. No doubt. Adding Ohtani to the Braves right now would make an unstoppable team, though.
If he refuses whatever they offer ($500M+) or he refuses to give them a number, they must trade him. It would be organizational suicide if they didn't.
Stephan A made Mad Dogs points for him. The Ruth trade was a travesty and considered the worst trade all time by the team that traded him. Also you say Ohtani only likes playing in the LA weather? Well, I'm not too scared about him going somewhere else now then am I ? Lol if this was any other sport the move would definitely be to trade him but in baseball wild card teams have just as good a chance as the top seeds to win it all..ur only three games out, I think I ride it out. But I don't know the intricacies of baseball gming philosophy like I do other sports so maybe I'm on the wrong side of the argument here.
You're right on the money. There's zero incentive for the Angels to trade Ohtani. 1) They'd be throwing in the towel on a season where they're over .500 and have a shot at the postseason. 2) They'd lose the fanbase who will stop showing up to the games. 3) They'd lose millions on sponsorships and merchandising. 4) They'd lose any possibility of resigning Ohtani.
No way they trade him, baseball is a different sport.
Lets enjoy while you have him
I genuinely don't understand baseball. It's unbelievable in other sports for a team to trade their generational talent just because he's in his last year of a contract.
I’m so glad Stephen A Smith is talking about Ohtani. It needed to happen. Stephen A draws viewers and we need a man of that caliber talking about him. I know what he said, but he apologized and we can move forward. Shotani needs SAS.
He should absolutely come to NYY think of matsui how big it was then how much bigger Ohtani will be
Yankee ownership is about profit over winning, they just signed Judge and make money whether they win or not. I doubt they pull out half a billion for him.
Doggy's mischievous smile tho 😂
Rewind the clock back to the 1920's 😂😂😂
they finally talking about baseball jeez
Ohtani looks great in Red - Please trade him to Cincinnati !
besides mad dog get the actual baseball reporters and people of the game in there. not no football reporters and basketball please bring in the people that actually follow the game and know the game ESPN
People talking how Ohtani is a generational player ... He's better than that. He's once in a lifetime. We'll never see anyone like him again.
What’s a winning rekid?
Fans would just drive from 57 to 10 Fwy. It is a win win situation for OC and LA fans.
??? No
As great as Ohtani is, I'm not giving up my farm system for a 2 month rental. Didn't work out so well when the Dodgers got Darvish. Lost 2 world series games for them. I'd give up maybe one decent guy and a draft pick, but that's it. If the Dodgers or Yankees are serious about making a run for him next winter, it actually wouldn't hurt to make sure he can handle playing in a big market before giving him 10 years, half a billion guaranteed.
You get it.
Can they trade Trout too once he is of IL? If so they should consider it. If you can't make it happen with Trout AND Ohtani on your team, how are you going to win after a retool around Trout? Even if you get a star player for Ohtani, he's the best player in the league. How is the #3 or 4 best player going to make the situation any better?
ESPN how will this affect LeGM legacy?
Any owner making that trade will have get back a huge haul and no team is selling the farm for 3 months of Shohei. If you want him, wait til FA.
In Major League Baseball, it never works trading for already stars. You only trade for guys that could turn into stars. I would not give up anything even for Ohtani.
Basically your saying you want stars you can control before they hit free agency. There fixed it for you.
When things don’t work for the organization for 8 years it’s time to make changes . Trading Shohei fast tracks those changes!
@@JesseWill still man I would not give up anything for Ohtani. In baseball, you’re not 1 player away from contending. It has never been that way.
He needs to be in the Giants!
Dodgers
@@JesseWill Baseball needs dynasty...Freeman, Betts, Ohtani
Listening to Stephen a and mad dog talk about baseball is like listening to Adam22 for relationship advice