And he has charisma. Look at how people interact with him, opposing players, umps, teammates, coaches. They always have a smile on their face after talking with him.
I never watch baseball. Until this man came. He's global recognition and helping the game of baseball to another level. He should just own the team at this point.
by far, too. even if he isnt the most popular in america (he prolly is), he has an entire country behind him ESPECIALLY after the WBC. i study JP and even if people i meet dont watch baseball they know shohei. hes an international superstar
@@outkast978 Mike Trout was almost NEVER the most popular baseball player. A lot of people HATED Barry Bonds and he was the best player in the sport by a MILE.
I’m a Blue Jays fan, but I just had to get an Ohtani jersey cause he’s freaking UNREAL. And it arrived in the mail yesterday just before the game!! 🎉🕺🎉🕺
Of course you had to get one, last time he played in New York, even the Yankees had to sell his jersey in their shop!! They created this "MVP vs MPV Face-off" theme with Judge and cashed in on Ohtani big time! It was ridiculous. LOL.
What people are realizing now is that the man gave up five runs on the mound, but was responsible for 6 in the field. Shohei ohtani allowed five earned runs, but he hit a three-run homer, and got driven in two or three more times. You could say he negated all of the damage that he allowed. So basically, that last start he allowed zero runs because he got back every single bit of what he gave up.
The man can strike out 10 people and hit a homerun in the same game! No other players can do that, their arms would be too tired to do both! And his base running speed is top notch too!
I’m Japanese so I understand what he says when he speaks in a native way that’s a bit beyond what an interpreter can do, and he is eloquent unlike most athletes , and he speaks very respectfully and sometimes is very funny, which doesn’t come through with interpretation. The guy is a complete package.
Never interested in baseball at all, but started watching Ohtani’s clip in RUclips since WBC 2023. So, can imagine the impact of Ohtani in baseball world.
I haven't cared to follow baseball in depth for years, and this is my favorite sport, played into college. This guy brought be back, and looking through comments on some of his videos I think i'm far from the only one
I don't understand the talks about his longevity. Shohei Ohtani has long beaten the 2 years of being a two-way player of the Bambino. He was a two-way player for 5 years in japan, and it is his 3rd year this year not counting the seasons he had injuries and played only as a batter. Is 8-years of being a two-way player still short?
Ohtani is the best Baseball player of all time, right now he has a career average of .270 and a ERA of 2.90, and I like Babe but I also like what Casey Stengal said in the 1960s interview, he said the players now are so much better bigger stronger faster (meaning Mays and Mantle and other's) then when he was playing in the 1920s & 30s. And no one knows Baseball better then Casey Stengal, Babe played against farmers and coal miners, and did'nt train 362 days and play against international worldwide talents like they do today.
I used to work at Angel stadium. He brings in a shit ton of fans. A lot of people go to the games to just watch him. Also a lot of Japanese fly to America to see him. They have tour busses full of Japanese people who came all the way from japan to see him. They have tour guides who translate for them and everything. They even have a section in the parking lot for the private buses to park.
You think about the show Shohei put on in the WBC and with what he continues to do in the league. Then you look at his global merchandising and marketing value. The TV contracts and social media traffic alone are astronomical. He's the only player getting merchandise sections at shops in opponent stadiums. And he's in the CY Young and MVP race every year. On top of that, Harper and Cole signed their contracts a few years ago, so inflation factors into the numbers. $60m/yr might not even get a return call from his agent.
@@Losmigoskenne1 5yr, $325m for the first 5 years with options and outs after that. His team probably wants a shorter deal in order to capitalize on all the publicity Shohei is generating for baseball. It will also put him in position to get a sweet 10yr $425m deal around age 34 when some team will overpay to have the Unicorn retire in their jersey.
This guy has caused me to rearrange my life schedule. Love to watch sports on TV. Mostly hockey, but also football baseball and some soccer. Now every day I check the sports schedule. If Shohei and the Angels are playing I check the game time and adjust my eating times and bedtimes so I can take in the Shohei show. Loving what this guy does. Adds a whole new level never seen before. Add to that he seems to be a loveable humble human being. I now find myself watching far to much baseball and loving it.
Productivity and longevity aside, this guy is THE cashcow. As much as I like Trout and Scherzer, Ohtani has way higher marketability than those 2 combined.
Just the fact that a starting pitcher flirts with a cycle is incredible. He did it twice in a span of two weeks! Hopefully he gets it soon but the opportunity for such a scenario is pretty improbable so it might be a while if ever.
Simple, Ohtani is not asking for money. Money followed him. He just wants to play in a team that can be in the play off and with those who really really want to win the World Series. Angels, not a good fit for him anymore.
Angels are where you go to end a good career... Or bottom it out. Josh Hamilton was lights-out in Texas, he got to the angels and he was done. C.j. Wilson was a good hurler for the Texas Rangers, a couple of years after he got to the Anaheim Angels he was done. Mike trout, and a ton of other MVP in All-Star caliber player has never even tasted the playoffs because of this team. They got to get it done this year, or I would make the argument for both of their Superstars to get out of there
His only issue right now (opinion) is throwing sliders inside of pull hitters, their just taking It for a ride. The amount of time he spends running back to his Ipad in the dugout he'll be able to get it right sooner than anyone else.
He is without doubt a talent that I've never seen before (57 years of age). His next contract will be gigantic! If he were to get injured (God Forbid) and miss several months, it would be the equivalent of losing two superstar players at the same time. Quick edit, 56 yrs old. Ooops
You give any past/present MVP or CY young winner that game, and it would be a standing ovation, and the first/last highlight at their retirement and hall of fame induction.
The bidding starts at 600 mil for 10 years if you ask me - he is an elite hitter and elite pitcher in the same person. So if elite hitters cost $30-35 mil and elite pitchers $30-40 mil you do the math. You have to pay him as if he is two players, (1) $30 mil for his hitting and (2) another 30 mil for his pitching its unprecedented how he is gonna be valued would love to be his agent. If Schezer and Verlander currently get about $43 mil only to pitch every 5th day and he has not only pitched better than them but he is also an MVP level hitter, I don’t see how he gets less than $60 mil. In fact if you go by the going market rat he is closer to $70 mil he is worth 35 mil as a hitter and another 35 mil for his pitching, unreal
not only that but the day before, he was at a Curling event, I wasn't sure if it was him, but there aren't many 6'4 Japanese rollin around. He took that curling stone, and tossed it overhanded shattering all the other curling stones and landing it perfectly at the Tee line. Dead center. amazing.
@@aztronomy7457 Ohtani is worth 250M as a pitcher and something around 200M as a hitter. He's no better than Kris Bryant offensively and Bryant got 7/182 from COL. Overall Ohtani is worth 10/450M imo. Definitely not over 600M or close to that like you insinuated.
In our country baseball is not that popular but I am right now going to order an Ohtani jersey! Been binge watching clips of him for several weeks now!🙂
His performances last year and this year in my mind changed the history of baseball, and professional sports period. He will have an annual award named after him to future athletes, and his mem, and brand will sell for the next 100 years. He certainly made a spot ALREADY in the HOF. Anything less is ignorance, or indifferent to the history and future of baseball. When you sit with names of the all time greats, YOU ALREADY are an all time great, no matter the time it took to reach such pinnacle long or short.
He’s worth whatever number you can put together. He’s the only player who will ever recoup the entire cost of his contract through attendance and merchandise.
June 5 2022, Angels vs Phillies. Ohtani was the DH, Trout was in CF. Phillies were behind in the 8th, 6-2and Harper ties it up with a grand slam. 9th inning, Ohtani drives in a run and they go head by . Bottom of the 9th Stott walks it off with a 3 run homer. Phillies win 9-7. I was the game sitting next to an Angles fan who flew all the way from CA to see the game. I'm also from the same town as Trout, but I was routing for the Phillies. One of the best Phillies games I ever attended.
If Messi is worth 1.6 billion for 3 years just for kicking a ball. Ohtani would be worth 10 billion for 10 years plus a percentage from MLB ticket sales, a percentage from MLB network, and a percentage of jersey sales. No question ask! You just can't let boring soccer overtake baseball like that. MLB must prove that baseball is still the best American sport and they pay better than anyone else.
I never watch baseball before when im scrolling tiktok i saw a video the way he swing and fitch the ball i was like "oh his good" and he's personality? people love him
You’re getting at a minimum a top 10, oftentimes top 5 starting pitcher AND DH. He takes 2 roster spots and gives you the best at both. He should easily be compensated accordingly. You don’t need advanced statistics to see his true impact on the game though. Watch any Angels highlights in any ballpark- look at what language the rotating advertisements behind home plate are. Literal global impact
One thing is for sure, his next contract is gonna be the biggest contract in American sports history. Mike's contract was the biggest in baseball, and Shohei is worth more these days. I think if he hits 30 bombs and wins 15 (which it's looking like he will), he'll get 2023 MVP and take a $500m+ contract somewhere. Can't imagine it'll be the Angels with the #1 and #2 biggest contracts in baseball, he'll probably end up in either in New York or San Diego, would be my guess.
He is definitely NOT going to the Padres, Mets and the Blue Jays. Ohtani has said before he does not want to play on a team with an established Japanese star already. Especially if that player is a starting pitcher like him. And he wants to go to a perrenial contender, so it probably has to be big market team afraid of not using money this time around, different from his thinking in prioritizing a team in 2018. So it has to be the Dodgers or the Yankees. And to a lesser extent, Red Sox (but they have Yoshida), Cubs (but they have Suzuki), Rangers, Mariners (but then he has to compete with the Angels whom he feels certain obligation of sticking with him when he was down at the beginning of his MLB career until he became this unicorn). Astros, Rays, Braves if he does not care about money but VERY VERY unlikely. Other western teams Giants, Dbacks, Rockies, Athletics no chance.
Well, he better get out of here. Been a longtime Halos fan, but at this rate, a playoff appearance would be a miracle with this squad. Selfishly, I hope they can continue to build at least a WC-level squad around him and he stays, but I really just want him to be free at this point 😆
@@danielwest9955 Yeah exactly. I’m not an Angels fan myself, but I would absolutely love to see him and Trout defy all odds and win a ring there. At the very least though, I just want to see them win a ring on any team
Having money well into retirement is worth more than a ring. Heck, a man won the Woman of the Year award just to remind us that Championship awards are overrated.
I agree that you do not trade the Mona Lisa. The difference here is that the Mona Lisa can't walk away and choose where it wants to be displayed. But Ohtani can, and if they don't make the playoffs, he will. Everyone can agree that he is a goner if they don't make the playoffs this year. In my opinion, he is gone even if they make the playoffs. The only way I see him staying is if they make a deep playoff run and do not just lose in the first round. So why not trade him if you know you have a 0% chance of making the playoffs? I think we can all agree that at that point, the dumbest thing the angels can do is not trade him. But they are the Angels so they won't do the smart thing and trade him.
His worth goes far beyond his (incredible) numbers. If you factored in the revenue he single-handedly generates for MLB, his true value would be in the hundreds of millions. Same was true of MJ and Gretzky.
When I was a kid 51 years ago in Taiwan, we pitched and batted , too. MLB just broke this baseball tradition just because MLB plays professionally and loses the spirts fun.
Let’s put it the way… I didn’t care about baseball until I saw classic and how great he played, that i became a angel fans but nobody told me how much they lose 🤣
I’m not a Baseball fan but and I live in Riverside CA. But what Ohtani is doing is Amazing, I’m 47 years old I’ve never seen that in the same sport, sure we’ve seen Bo Jackson play Football/Baseball unfortunately he had a really bad injury wasn’t the same , but it still doesn’t compare it’s like a Starting QB playing Offense and then Starting on Defense it’s nuts. I’m going to go watch Ohtani pitch at Angel Stadium, I want to tell my grandchildren I witnessed Ohtani with history with my own 👀… It would be the Angels biggest blunder with Arte Moreno to lose him in free agency
When you are talking about getting Ohtani with money, you’re not gonna get him. He’s not looking for money. He’s looking for great teammates, great environment for playing baseball, and great staff. It was definitely Angeles when he came to USA. But then plus, he wants to go to World Series and win now. Which team can provide it?
I guess $40M/year is bare minimum (honestly I believe $50M or $55M is worthy, but considering injury risk and slumps, $40M is not overpay for him) Take into account that he has arguably the best global merchandising and marketing effects and could bring traffic to team's social media and get plenty of overseas fanbase. Last season in an Anegls game at Anaheim, I saw some folks with a banner saying "flew from to see Ohtani" which I reckon baseball is not that popular in those countries. That is spectular!
you are right. I was one of those. LOL. I flew from Taipei Taiwan to watch his games (one in Anaheim Angels stadium and another at T-Mobile park in Seattle). I bought a jersey for me and another for my son. but i didn't make any banners/signs. Here in Taiwan, the sports channels broacasts almost every Angels games daily (instead of showing RedSox games or other teams that has Taiwanese players in it, which was a standard broadcasting practice in the past). And they make special broadcasts whenever Ohtani is scheduled as starting pitcher. I was a loyal fan of NBA, NFL, etc (>20 years of following and fantasy games). I started watching MLB in 2021 because of Ohtani, and now i'm obssessed with baseball. I stopped watching NBA, etc. I only watch Angels games ever since.
The first billion dollar player...he is stunningly GREAT, in fact all-time great on the mound and at the plate. What Gretzky was to hockey, Sho-time is MORE to baseball.
"Greatest of all Time" Shohei Ohtani - MLB Michael Jordan - NBA Tom Brady - NFL Jack Nicholson - PGA "Shohei Ohtani" We get the privilege of watching this man make history right before our eyes. This should be reflected in his salary. Meaning he should be the highest paid athlete on the planet right now.
Oh I can only dream if Cleveland got him with Bieber and that farm system one can wish man still waiting fellas 1948 😢 baseball gods plz I would like to witness a World Series title clinch with my father not in the grave but I could see ohtani go to the Braves or the blue jays could be interesting I really would dream for Cleveland with the farm we have
It’s not the fact that you’re paying for both the value of a pitcher who’s worth 30+ and a hitter who’s worth 30+, you’re paying for the value of them both together. I don’t think 60+ AAV is the answer.
"Not yet HOF" Technically probably true but has by far the shortest path of any player in history relative to longevity. 2, 3 more seasons of what he has been doing and it wont matter when the "counting" numbers look like.
@@kentosalazar Reasonably speaking, Dodgers have some great talented catchers Tigers fan in me is saying Jake Rogers but Detroit will never see Ohtani LMAO
this is so false, if u don't call for pitches you ONLY have 15 seconds for the catcher to call for the pitches. What if you had a miscommunication? there's no time to literally go through it again
Boy, new balance got ohtani now??? Big lost for asics, because i personally would love to buy ohtani training shoes if they decide to release them,im not baseball player, but seriously like the guy
That does not even consider the fact that a 2-way player like Shohei is more valuable than 2 similar players on each side, because he uses up 1 less roster spot, so the team has additional cover either in the offense or the bullpen.
If Ohtani stays with LAA I’m ok with that but fear he will never win a World Series, I would like to se him go to the Padres just so I have an excuse to buy a Padres Alt Road Jersey, they are dope.
Obtain is better than Babe Ruth. Do you think Ruth can do what Ohtani is doing now with all the best BLACK LATINO and ASIAN players that he didn’t have to play against? Everyone pitching 100mph heat and all of your weaknesses digitally analyzed by your opponents? no way Jose.
And he has charisma. Look at how people interact with him, opposing players, umps, teammates, coaches. They always have a smile on their face after talking with him.
That’s not charisma… that’s grown men in awe of a specimen who is doing things never before seen.
how ppl acted around michael jordan
@@tednguyen7258 He is like mj but humble, no surprise everybody like him
@@DontMindMe_ that's charisma lol
the only humble black in the nba i ever saw was david robinson...the rest have mouths bigger than water melons....look at that joker morant
I never watch baseball. Until this man came. He's global recognition and helping the game of baseball to another level. He should just own the team at this point.
It's not even the fact that he's the best player in the game, he's the most popular player in the league, everyone loves seeing him play.
by far, too. even if he isnt the most popular in america (he prolly is), he has an entire country behind him ESPECIALLY after the WBC. i study JP and even if people i meet dont watch baseball they know shohei. hes an international superstar
Even opposing team's fans cheer for him
what does this comment even mean? When was the time the most popular player in a sport wasn't the arguably best player in the game?
@@outkast978 Mike Trout was almost NEVER the most popular baseball player. A lot of people HATED Barry Bonds and he was the best player in the sport by a MILE.
@@Galactic123 let me put this another way: when was the last time the most popular player in a sport wasn't arguably the best?
Can we all just sit here and just really get through our head that he just jogged out a triple😂
Full throttle he might've had an Inside the park or at the very least, thrown out at home. Lol. The man is unreal..
It looked slow but how fast was it really? Idk if you follow football but tyreek hill sometimes "jogs" but the yardage still flies by lol
@@reeeeeeee-e2g The man was jogging I mean it was kinda obvious. But I get what I get what you trying to say.
Same thought. Hahahaha
I’m a Blue Jays fan, but I just had to get an Ohtani jersey cause he’s freaking UNREAL. And it arrived in the mail yesterday just before the game!! 🎉🕺🎉🕺
Of course you had to get one, last time he played in New York, even the Yankees had to sell his jersey in their shop!! They created this "MVP vs MPV Face-off" theme with Judge and cashed in on Ohtani big time! It was ridiculous. LOL.
What people are realizing now is that the man gave up five runs on the mound, but was responsible for 6 in the field.
Shohei ohtani allowed five earned runs, but he hit a three-run homer, and got driven in two or three more times. You could say he negated all of the damage that he allowed.
So basically, that last start he allowed zero runs because he got back every single bit of what he gave up.
The man can strike out 10 people and hit a homerun in the same game! No other players can do that, their arms would be too tired to do both! And his base running speed is top notch too!
He's baseball. This guy got fans who don't watch baseball on a daily basis. He got fans from his enemies.
Ohtani is officially Captain Baseball.
I’m Japanese so I understand what he says when he speaks in a native way that’s a bit beyond what an interpreter can do, and he is eloquent unlike most athletes , and he speaks very respectfully and sometimes is very funny, which doesn’t come through with interpretation. The guy is a complete package.
Never interested in baseball at all, but started watching Ohtani’s clip in RUclips since WBC 2023.
So, can imagine the impact of Ohtani in baseball world.
I haven't cared to follow baseball in depth for years, and this is my favorite sport, played into college. This guy brought be back, and looking through comments on some of his videos I think i'm far from the only one
I don't understand the talks about his longevity. Shohei Ohtani has long beaten the 2 years of being a two-way player of the Bambino. He was a two-way player for 5 years in japan, and it is his 3rd year this year not counting the seasons he had injuries and played only as a batter. Is 8-years of being a two-way player still short?
Ohtani is the best Baseball player of all time, right now he has a career average of .270 and a ERA of 2.90, and I like Babe but I also like what Casey Stengal said in the 1960s interview, he said the players now are so much better bigger stronger faster (meaning Mays and Mantle and other's) then when he was playing in the 1920s & 30s. And no one knows Baseball better then Casey Stengal, Babe played against farmers and coal miners, and did'nt train 362 days and play against international worldwide talents like they do today.
I used to work at Angel stadium. He brings in a shit ton of fans. A lot of people go to the games to just watch him. Also a lot of Japanese fly to America to see him. They have tour busses full of Japanese people who came all the way from japan to see him. They have tour guides who translate for them and everything. They even have a section in the parking lot for the private buses to park.
Only reason for the youth to pay attention to baseball is this guy
I am actually learning the rules of baseball because of Shohei...
I just watch anime baseball and I understand it very well 🤣
You think about the show Shohei put on in the WBC and with what he continues to do in the league. Then you look at his global merchandising and marketing value. The TV contracts and social media traffic alone are astronomical. He's the only player getting merchandise sections at shops in opponent stadiums. And he's in the CY Young and MVP race every year.
On top of that, Harper and Cole signed their contracts a few years ago, so inflation factors into the numbers.
$60m/yr might not even get a return call from his agent.
11 yrs 660 his new contract
@@Losmigoskenne1 5yr, $325m for the first 5 years with options and outs after that.
His team probably wants a shorter deal in order to capitalize on all the publicity Shohei is generating for baseball.
It will also put him in position to get a sweet 10yr $425m deal around age 34 when some team will overpay to have the Unicorn retire in their jersey.
Ohtani is better than 90 % of all MLB players on an average day🙄
95%*
He worths the Skysssss and beyond.
And he is Mine!!!!!!!!!!!!😊!Forever and Ever!!!!!!!! on Earth and on Heaven
i hope your a girl
Most talented baseball player of all time
This man is the Tiger Woods of Baseball. He brings people to the game who don't even care about the sport.
This guy has caused me to rearrange my life schedule. Love to watch sports on TV. Mostly hockey, but also football baseball and some soccer. Now every day I check the sports schedule. If Shohei and the Angels are playing I check the game time and adjust my eating times and bedtimes so I can take in the Shohei show. Loving what this guy does. Adds a whole new level never seen before. Add to that he seems to be a loveable humble human being. I now find myself watching far to much baseball and loving it.
Productivity and longevity aside, this guy is THE cashcow.
As much as I like Trout and Scherzer, Ohtani has way higher marketability than those 2 combined.
Just the fact that a starting pitcher flirts with a cycle is incredible. He did it twice in a span of two weeks!
Hopefully he gets it soon but the opportunity for such a scenario is pretty improbable so it might be a while if ever.
Simple, Ohtani is not asking for money. Money followed him. He just wants to play in a team that can be in the play off and with those who really really want to win the World Series. Angels, not a good fit for him anymore.
Angels are where you go to end a good career... Or bottom it out. Josh Hamilton was lights-out in Texas, he got to the angels and he was done.
C.j. Wilson was a good hurler for the Texas Rangers, a couple of years after he got to the Anaheim Angels he was done.
Mike trout, and a ton of other MVP in All-Star caliber player has never even tasted the playoffs because of this team.
They got to get it done this year, or I would make the argument for both of their Superstars to get out of there
he's the reason i'm hooked up to watch mlb
Ohtani is the Asian version of Babe Ruth. Only see greatness once a century.
His only issue right now (opinion) is throwing sliders inside of pull hitters, their just taking It for a ride. The amount of time he spends running back to his Ipad in the dugout he'll be able to get it right sooner than anyone else.
He is without doubt a talent that I've never seen before (57 years of age). His next contract will be gigantic! If he were to get injured (God Forbid) and miss several months, it would be the equivalent of losing two superstar players at the same time. Quick edit, 56 yrs old. Ooops
You give any past/present MVP or CY young winner that game, and it would be a standing ovation, and the first/last highlight at their retirement and hall of fame induction.
BTW he calls his own games!! What else do you need to know, he is the best player on the planet, he should easily get 550-600 million.
Sure for a 5 year contract.
The bidding starts at 600 mil for 10 years if you ask me - he is an elite hitter and elite pitcher in the same person. So if elite hitters cost $30-35 mil and elite pitchers $30-40 mil you do the math. You have to pay him as if he is two players, (1) $30 mil for his hitting and (2) another 30 mil for his pitching its unprecedented how he is gonna be valued would love to be his agent.
If Schezer and Verlander currently get about $43 mil only to pitch every 5th day and he has not only pitched better than them but he is also an MVP level hitter, I don’t see how he gets less than $60 mil. In fact if you go by the going market rat he is closer to $70 mil he is worth 35 mil as a hitter and another 35 mil for his pitching, unreal
What's great about him is that the day he hit three home runs, there's a lot of discussion about his high value.
not only that but the day before, he was at a Curling event, I wasn't sure if it was him, but there aren't many 6'4 Japanese rollin around. He took that curling stone, and tossed it overhanded shattering all the other curling stones and landing it perfectly at the Tee line. Dead center. amazing.
Take Judge's contract. Take Cole's contract. Put those two together. That's how much he's worth.
Yes, he is making billions of money if not millions.
Judge is a way better hitter over a 162 game season if we're being serious.
@@MyGunz69 and Ohtani is the way way way better player if we’re being serious
@@aztronomy7457 ohtani is not worth judge's contract as a hitter. not even close.
@@aztronomy7457 Ohtani is worth 250M as a pitcher and something around 200M as a hitter. He's no better than Kris Bryant offensively and Bryant got 7/182 from COL. Overall Ohtani is worth 10/450M imo. Definitely not over 600M or close to that like you insinuated.
12 years 1,000 millions is real possibility
In our country baseball is not that popular but I am right now going to order an Ohtani jersey! Been binge watching clips of him for several weeks now!🙂
He is so fun to watch
I think you take his value as a pitcher plus +50% of his value as a position player. Roughly 57 million a year.
He is beyond human abilities! He is without a doubt the greatest player ever to breathe! Noone can deny this, despite being Non American!!!
His performances last year and this year in my mind changed the history of baseball, and professional sports period. He will have an annual award named after him to future athletes, and his mem, and brand will sell for the next 100 years. He certainly made a spot ALREADY in the HOF. Anything less is ignorance, or indifferent to the history and future of baseball. When you sit with names of the all time greats, YOU ALREADY are an all time great, no matter the time it took to reach such pinnacle long or short.
He’s worth whatever number you can put together.
He’s the only player who will ever recoup the entire cost of his contract through attendance and merchandise.
John Fisher (A’s owner) final form: Offers Ohtani a lifetime one billion dollar contract as the team moves to LV
this
A billion dollars. He deserves it.
That was a great take 🤑⚾
June 5 2022, Angels vs Phillies. Ohtani was the DH, Trout was in CF. Phillies were behind in the 8th, 6-2and Harper ties it up with a grand slam. 9th inning, Ohtani drives in a run and they go head by . Bottom of the 9th Stott walks it off with a 3 run homer. Phillies win 9-7. I was the game sitting next to an Angles fan who flew all the way from CA to see the game. I'm also from the same town as Trout, but I was routing for the Phillies. One of the best Phillies games I ever attended.
If Messi is worth 1.6 billion for 3 years just for kicking a ball. Ohtani would be worth 10 billion for 10 years plus a percentage from MLB ticket sales, a percentage from MLB network, and a percentage of jersey sales. No question ask! You just can't let boring soccer overtake baseball like that. MLB must prove that baseball is still the best American sport and they pay better than anyone else.
I never watch baseball before when im scrolling tiktok i saw a video the way he swing and fitch the ball i was like "oh his good" and he's personality? people love him
You’re getting at a minimum a top 10, oftentimes top 5 starting pitcher AND DH. He takes 2 roster spots and gives you the best at both. He should easily be compensated accordingly.
You don’t need advanced statistics to see his true impact on the game though. Watch any Angels highlights in any ballpark- look at what language the rotating advertisements behind home plate are. Literal global impact
One thing is for sure, his next contract is gonna be the biggest contract in American sports history. Mike's contract was the biggest in baseball, and Shohei is worth more these days. I think if he hits 30 bombs and wins 15 (which it's looking like he will), he'll get 2023 MVP and take a $500m+ contract somewhere. Can't imagine it'll be the Angels with the #1 and #2 biggest contracts in baseball, he'll probably end up in either in New York or San Diego, would be my guess.
Could San Diego even afford him at this point? Don’t they have three 300+ contracts on their roster already?
I’m thinking New York is too cold for his shoulder.
I'm thinking dodgers as of right now. SD has too much load on their payroll and New York doesn't look like a desirable place for Ohtani.
Dodgers….
He is definitely NOT going to the Padres, Mets and the Blue Jays.
Ohtani has said before he does not want to play on a team with an established Japanese star already. Especially if that player is a starting pitcher like him.
And he wants to go to a perrenial contender, so it probably has to be big market team afraid of not using money this time around, different from his thinking in prioritizing a team in 2018.
So it has to be the Dodgers or the Yankees.
And to a lesser extent, Red Sox (but they have Yoshida), Cubs (but they have Suzuki), Rangers, Mariners (but then he has to compete with the Angels whom he feels certain obligation of sticking with him when he was down at the beginning of his MLB career until he became this unicorn). Astros, Rays, Braves if he does not care about money but VERY VERY unlikely. Other western teams Giants, Dbacks, Rockies, Athletics no chance.
900 mill, for 10 years. MINIMUM😮 Sincerely, Shohei Ohtani
It will be a travesty if this man never gets a ring
Well, he better get out of here. Been a longtime Halos fan, but at this rate, a playoff appearance would be a miracle with this squad.
Selfishly, I hope they can continue to build at least a WC-level squad around him and he stays, but I really just want him to be free at this point 😆
@@danielwest9955 Yeah exactly. I’m not an Angels fan myself, but I would absolutely love to see him and Trout defy all odds and win a ring there. At the very least though, I just want to see them win a ring on any team
With that owner who almost sold the team last August??
Having money well into retirement is worth more than a ring. Heck, a man won the Woman of the Year award just to remind us that Championship awards are overrated.
I agree that you do not trade the Mona Lisa. The difference here is that the Mona Lisa can't walk away and choose where it wants to be displayed. But Ohtani can, and if they don't make the playoffs, he will. Everyone can agree that he is a goner if they don't make the playoffs this year. In my opinion, he is gone even if they make the playoffs. The only way I see him staying is if they make a deep playoff run and do not just lose in the first round.
So why not trade him if you know you have a 0% chance of making the playoffs? I think we can all agree that at that point, the dumbest thing the angels can do is not trade him. But they are the Angels so they won't do the smart thing and trade him.
As a Cubs fan I’ve gone to more Angels games these last few years than the Cubs hahaha
"It's gonna get weird" is RIGHT....
His worth goes far beyond his (incredible) numbers. If you factored in the revenue he single-handedly generates for MLB, his true value would be in the hundreds of millions. Same was true of MJ and Gretzky.
When I was a kid 51 years ago in Taiwan, we pitched and batted , too. MLB just broke this baseball tradition just because MLB plays professionally and loses the spirts fun.
I can tell you for a fact a couple of TV "analysts" certainly aren't going to dissect what Shohei Ohtani is truly worth 🤣🤣
How do I know exactly who you’re talking about and I totally agree lol
Playing for the Dodgers would be the perfect match competitively & financially....not even mentioning the global branding.
Let’s put it the way… I didn’t care about baseball until I saw classic and how great he played, that i became a angel fans but nobody told me how much they lose 🤣
I’m not a Baseball fan but and I live in Riverside CA. But what Ohtani is doing is Amazing, I’m 47 years old I’ve never seen that in the same sport, sure we’ve seen Bo Jackson play Football/Baseball unfortunately he had a really bad injury wasn’t the same , but it still doesn’t compare it’s like a Starting QB playing Offense and then Starting on Defense it’s nuts. I’m going to go watch Ohtani pitch at Angel Stadium, I want to tell my grandchildren I witnessed Ohtani with history with my own 👀… It would be the Angels biggest blunder with Arte Moreno to lose him in free agency
When you are talking about getting Ohtani with money, you’re not gonna get him. He’s not looking for money. He’s looking for great teammates, great environment for playing baseball, and great staff. It was definitely Angeles when he came to USA. But then plus, he wants to go to World Series and win now. Which team can provide it?
Ohtani is god.
Love this segment … I know a guy over in Queens lol but it’s just that simple … easily 600 mil +
He deserves a billion dollars. No joke.
I stopped watching MLB 6 years ago and just started watching again because of this guy.
He’s a billion dollar player it’s that simple
It's weird to even see that in print but yes, you're absolutely right..
I guess $40M/year is bare minimum (honestly I believe $50M or $55M is worthy, but considering injury risk and slumps, $40M is not overpay for him)
Take into account that he has arguably the best global merchandising and marketing effects and could bring traffic to team's social media and get plenty of overseas fanbase. Last season in an Anegls game at Anaheim, I saw some folks with a banner saying "flew from to see Ohtani" which I reckon baseball is not that popular in those countries. That is spectular!
you are right. I was one of those. LOL. I flew from Taipei Taiwan to watch his games (one in Anaheim Angels stadium and another at T-Mobile park in Seattle). I bought a jersey for me and another for my son. but i didn't make any banners/signs.
Here in Taiwan, the sports channels broacasts almost every Angels games daily (instead of showing RedSox games or other teams that has Taiwanese players in it, which was a standard broadcasting practice in the past). And they make special broadcasts whenever Ohtani is scheduled as starting pitcher. I was a loyal fan of NBA, NFL, etc (>20 years of following and fantasy games). I started watching MLB in 2021 because of Ohtani, and now i'm obssessed with baseball. I stopped watching NBA, etc. I only watch Angels games ever since.
He is worth 50m a year. A great pitcher gets 30m, great DH gets 30m. He’s 2 in one before considering marketing value
@@willchen2k Ohtani is just unreal, word cant even describe it, he is just... idk, hes just soooo good, poetry in motion.
They right about everything except at the end when one of em said he not a hall of famer yet. The guy's the best baseball player of all time.
I remember when Ohtani first went to the Angels some people were comparing his hitting to Bumgarner. Now he’s being compared to Trout and Harper. Wow.
Whatever he’s worth here, he might be worth more in Japan
give him a 10 year 1 billion dollar contract
already a hall of famer.
yea... I never really followed baseball, but now I am invested in Showtime. lol....
Okay well while my O's dont have consistent pitching, they did knock 5 runs off him in 7 innings. That's 6.43 runs per 9 off the goat baby.
The first billion dollar player...he is stunningly GREAT, in fact all-time great on the mound and at the plate. What Gretzky was to hockey, Sho-time is MORE to baseball.
"Greatest of all Time"
Shohei Ohtani - MLB
Michael Jordan - NBA
Tom Brady - NFL
Jack Nicholson - PGA
"Shohei Ohtani"
We get the privilege of watching this man make history right before our eyes.
This should be reflected in his salary.
Meaning he should be the highest paid athlete on the planet right now.
Patrick goat mahomes!
Oh I can only dream if Cleveland got him with Bieber and that farm system one can wish man still waiting fellas 1948 😢 baseball gods plz I would like to witness a World Series title clinch with my father not in the grave but I could see ohtani go to the Braves or the blue jays could be interesting I really would dream for Cleveland with the farm we have
I want to ask are we ever going to see a billion dollar player in any sports?
Ohtani is the real face of MLB globally
My introduction to baseball was Ohtani. I guess I don't appreciate it as much as the diehard baseball fans.
Give him $1 billion. He's literally giving birth to baseball fans all over the world, not just the US.
the WBC basically proved his value
Phillies should trade Nola and some prospects for him if the angels are shopping
It’s not the fact that you’re paying for both the value of a pitcher who’s worth 30+ and a hitter who’s worth 30+, you’re paying for the value of them both together. I don’t think 60+ AAV is the answer.
WHATEVER HE WANTS, HE SHOULD GET. That's how much he is worth.
"Not yet HOF"
Technically probably true but has by far the shortest path of any player in history relative to longevity.
2, 3 more seasons of what he has been doing and it wont matter when the "counting" numbers look like.
He will be worth every penny he gets.
Brings in revenue business-wise, brings in popularity social
Im buying me a Ohtani jersey!
So good he carries his team to the playoffs
Ohtani needs to stop calling his own pitches tbh, I think he'd benefit a lot from a good talented veteran catcher. Not on the angels
who you wanna ideally see catch for him?
Can the manager or anyone else call it?
@@kentosalazar Reasonably speaking, Dodgers have some great talented catchers
Tigers fan in me is saying Jake Rogers but Detroit will never see Ohtani LMAO
this is so false, if u don't call for pitches you ONLY have 15 seconds for the catcher to call for the pitches. What if you had a miscommunication? there's no time to literally go through it again
@@OGking831 but
like
every other pitcher does it and is fine
'YESTERDAY'S PRICE .. IS NOT 2DAY'S PRICE' - SHOHEI OHTANI
I think 45 mil a year would be a bargain... Probably deserves 50 plus
Boy, new balance got ohtani now??? Big lost for asics, because i personally would love to buy ohtani training shoes if they decide to release them,im not baseball player, but seriously like the guy
Give him a piece of the team.
That does not even consider the fact that a 2-way player like Shohei is more valuable than 2 similar players on each side, because he uses up 1 less roster spot, so the team has additional cover either in the offense or the bullpen.
GOAT - no doubt !!
Answer : a lot
If Ohtani stays with LAA I’m ok with that but fear he will never win a World Series, I would like to se him go to the Padres just so I have an excuse to buy a Padres Alt Road Jersey, they are dope.
10 years. 700 million
Obtain is better than Babe Ruth. Do you think Ruth can do what Ohtani is doing now with all the best BLACK LATINO and ASIAN players that he didn’t have to play against? Everyone pitching 100mph heat and all of your weaknesses digitally analyzed by your opponents? no way Jose.