Max is an example of what not kissing ass and having a different opinion looks like. They’re getting rid of real sports analyst and turning it into a culture war
This is the corporate world in a nutshell. Stephen ain't been s**** and skip left The ratings were fine and he got crushed regularly. Not because Max was trying to crush him but because Steven A. Has low self-esteem and has a fear of inferiority.... It's sad. He's a grown man with millions of dollars and he still can't go over his inferiority. Complexes
Bro I legit don't watch American sports or tv anymore and this is coming from an insane 90's NBA on NBC kid with Champion Jerseys and Penny Hardaway sneakers. NFL 80s and 90s Giants. Huge fan of Baseball and now nothing. I refuse to be apart of the culture war of USA. I grew up in the 80s and 90s in a mixed very mixed area of NYC and high school everyone got along. Legit everyone. Nowadays this USA tries to make it seem we always had problems. Done. I been watching the current Sumo Tournament in Japan that's going on right now and I am loving it. I will continue to check out other overseas sports and support Hockey outside of the NHL because the NHL simps now for Americans and ESPN too
I can respect that, I ultimately always consider the bias either way in media, it’s become a protective measure naturally. A well educated and thoughtful person can weed out bs
@@DannyP-dm1pw I love basketball And I am an agreeance that has become annoying. I'm also a huge UFC fan and I'm praying it takes quite a while before that becomes with the NBA boxing and NFL have become
Steven A. Smith gets paid for being controversial, he goes out of his way to do so. To me he is entertaining but sometimes he takes it to far especially with these clips of disrespect to Kellerman
It's actually a joke how much more Max understood and followed the sport compared to Stephen A. Stephen is only a personality, he knows virtually nothing about sports. His best sport is supposed to be baskbetball and he's the second worst analyst in the game outside of Perkins.
I used to always say Max had the best takes on the show and y’all called me nuts! Damnit man I hate that we can’t realize what we have until it’s gone but even his most ridiculous takes MADE SENSE.
Max is blacker than SAS. Watch the segment with Meek Mill about the most influential rappers to the NBA. Also, Max can spit on the mic. Max is well respected by the boxing org. SAS pretends that he knows boxing/fighting (watch the clip with Joe Rogan too) lol.
@@yuhyuhitsyaboi5460History itself has to be precise and accurate so I’d imagine to most history majors it’s second hand. Especially coming from an Ivy League status school. Not like he’s a history major from ASU. (Go devils)
@@domagojhrgovic7419yeah and sometimes my broken watch tells the correct time twice a day. More times than not, Max walked over SAS and Embarrassed him on live TV and he wasn’t used to to. He was used to arguments with Skip. Someone who is a world class journalist and has seen first hand more about sports than SAS will ever learn. But plays the part of villain and fellow blow hard. Vs Max Kellerman who is a able to debate and carry out a cogent discussion without having to yell every three second to be heard!
Max delivered a very calm, nuanced, and fact-based argument during debates. He sprinkled in some low-key sarcasm and understated comical pettiness that was very entertaining. SCREAMIN' A SMITH just couldn't cope with that skill set.
Max Kellerman is an under-appreciated genius. The methodical ways in which he angles his argument mimics a chess game. He positions it such that the rebuttal from his counterpart(s) further strengthen his point the further they dive into theirs, and he knows it. Because as soon as they scoff at his point, he shoots empirical evidence right at them, and all they can say is, “But you was never an athlete”.
@@derpderpin1568your crazy. He’s an actual analyst. Everybody knows SAS is the worst sports analyst on TV. He’s a character, a muppet. All he does is do that little loud foolish voice and get all caricature like. Dudes a comedian
Stephen A Smith is the prime example of the old saying, Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt..
Bottom line is that every time there was a moment to speak on black inequality and systemic racism in America, Max had apex level consciousness, articulate, concise delivery and a tonne of facts. He repped us hard. Stephen A instead of being appreciative of the solidarity, he choose ego, jealousy and inadequacy. His selfish ego could not accept that Max was spitting the gospel on Black issues better than him. SAS always had the perspective of corporate America first, racial equality second.
Max peddling the fake woke victimhood narrative prevalent in the black community doesn't make him cool. It makes him an insufferable, preachy ideological clown who's concerned with boosting his social profile by saying all the socially/corporate accepted and approved things. But that's also due to the fact that he belongs to the small hat tribe that's anti-white and loves to pin races against each other. Apart from that, he was great as an analyst.
You saying you are a black man doesnt validate your comment anymore on top of the fact I dont think you are a black man. Especially when you hide yourself behind a profile that gives 0 context on who you really are. Just be yourself kid it will work out better for you.
Max knew way more about baseball, hockey boxing, they were even in football and you can give basketball to Smith. Smith ip more succinct and Max more nuanced. If you're a centrist like I am you like what they both brought to the table.
Arguing that Stockton shouldn't have been on the Dream Team is crazy. He is EXACTLY the PG you want on a team of scorers with big egos. And the Dream Team won every game by 50+ so how can you go back and say it needed improvement?! Then they talk about the players nowadays who can't even win gold like they are on the same level.
“Players nowadays who can’t win gold”🤣 why you so emotional?? It didn’t matter who was on the dream team they played against nobody lol I enjoyed that team just to see them together but bringing up how much they won by just shows you know nothing about ball beyond being a fanboy
I know that Terrell Owens take is the reason Max isn’t there, but it’s starting to seem as if SAS knew Max was simply smarter than him, and he couldn’t allow that.
Max came with statistics, facts, and most important, respect. You didn't have to agree with him, but he was respectful about debating sports topics. Stephen A came with opinions, loud angry opinions, and seemed to get louder and crazier the more his opinions were opposed with facts. If you tear down First Take and look to rebuild a professional sports show, I'm starting with Max over Stephen A.
Stephen A came with the fax and knowing a little something about basketball, Max Kellerman, who probably never watch the basketball game in his life, he only read stories about what happened the basketball games that’s why he got fired
No, he clearly understood and followed the game far more closely than Stephen A., Stephen is there for personality, no one that actually follows any sport closely, and by that I don't mean people that was espn all day, you know the knowledge wasn't even comparable.
Marcellus Wiley exposed SAS perfectly explaining Max was set up from the beginning to look bad and make SAS look good like he’s “the peoples champ” Luckily Max had to much integrity and stood up for what’s right and SAS had a problem with it. #teammax all day
Yeah to elaborate Wiley knows Max as they hosted a radio show together.. basically said max is a historian, Ivy League educated person. Stephen A wanted a token white man, but max is not that guy. He ran circles and made Stephen a look bad. So he had to get max out of there.
And then he rolls his eyes when Max brings up stats and facts like they’re for nerds and mean nothing. Stephen A is a tv personality not a legit analyst.
Indeed he’s made a living off of being a loud argumentative guy. His actual sport’s knowledge is lacking for someone with so many years in sports media.
I can relate to Max wholeheartedly. I look forward to when he returns to the sports commentary landscape with his own sports podcast, especially focused on Boxing/Combat Sports but definitely not limited to it. I believe he could continue what he was able to establish at HBO boxing. It just takes the right fighter (Crawford) era to help him do that.
I remember seeing Max on public access TV so many years ago talking boxing and I enjoyed listening to him then. Seeing him make it to ESPN was amazing. He has always had the passion, voice and knowledge. I hope he lands a spot somewhere that respects what he brings. All love for Max, he deserved better.
And MMA, he talks a lot of nonsense when it comes to that as well. Even Joe Rogan would look at SAS like what are you talking about. And Joe respects him enough to not go off on him. SAS needs to chill.
Damn dude. Honestly, I came into this thinking Kellerman was kind of a clown from all the stuff I have seen of him. This video kind of changed my mind. Dude had some decent points and got shouted down from loud mouth Steven A. Great video, thank you.
If you watched first take back in the day, you would have seen the disrespect. Honestly, it's worse than what skip did to Shannon, but because it's a brother doing it, everyone kept silent.
Y’all realize JJ ain’t been on first take in a while? I think whenever their are co-hosts who are logical and can provide more compelling arguments than Stephen A, he gets em out of there 😂
Here's the real. Stephen A didn't like that Max was seen as campaigning for black issues better and more articulate than he. Also, Max was the anti-Skip Bayless. He didn't say many things just for shock value. And thirdly, Undisputed became more entertaining than First Take.
That was the double edge with max though and kind of a point to SAS. When max did have a hot take or something created “shock value” it was 9/10 strictly analytics based without complete or proper context. Love him or hate him, max has said some of the most outlandish things in sports talk history. “TOM Brady and the cliff (4 years early at that), Kawhi being more clutch than Kobe, LeBron was put here to be the greatest PG that ever lived (current is the all time leader in turnovers). Etc. Not saying he was a terrible talking head, but he def only understands black and white and that’s never the true story in sports.
I love this resurgence of love for Max … Good eventually prevails … sometimes quickly , sometimes slowly … but usually with a dude like SAS , one’s true colors become revealed .
The only thing I didn't like about Max was that he was too subservient to Stephen A. He should have been calling him out for the clown he is. By the end of their run he was like an abused house wife. Stephen A Smith needed to be checked.
The man has a wife and kids he needed to put food on the table for. If it was me, I would have definity been fired but I think Max did the right thing for him.
Max was getting paid a lot of money tk do that show, a lot of us put up with a lot of shot if the money is right, None of you would risk losing that kind of money because some dude is ego tripping Imagine being paid 5 million a year, but quitting your job because the dude you work with is an asshole. Some of y’all making 40k a year in a job full of assholes and you don’t quit lol, it is what it is, Let me get these checks..and take care of my family
Stephen A Smith has always been so insecure in regards to Max Kellerman. Max was always very calm and composed when going up against him because his thinking was much more methodical and intelligent while Stephen A just tries to yell over him all the time. Max simply overwhelmed SAS and Stephen A didn’t know how to handle him.
Well when it comes to Stephen A, he was the only guy who took the lead and was able only to win 🏅 the game against the other two guys in his first match in his first season with a goal in his first game of Cup match against a team which is now a two team tournament
This what get me about Stephen A is like nobody knows basketball but him just like the debate on who’s the goat Michael Jordan or LeBron James in that debate no matter what someone said he had all the right and privilege to determine it’s Jordan and not saying Jordan is not the Goat but that opinion is debatable
Max was right more often than SAS… That’s the truth… Did he say some wild things ? Yes but so does everyone at times including SAS. SAS said it was about “chemistry” I actually enjoyed Maxs breakdowns as he made you think outside the box
@@derpderpin1568the fact your copy and pasting this comment everywhere let’s me know your clearly not all there in the head relax buddy it’s going to be okay 😢
Max Kellerman was articulate and knowledgeable, and not afraid to speak his mind.Therefore a threat to Stephen A. That's why he's not on first take anymore.
I can tell you as a lifelong Bulls fan. When the Bulls played the Jazz I was as afraid of what John Stockton could do against the Bulls as I was Zeke. The fear level was the same and that’s real talk
Right, you’re hoping Stock doesn’t steal the ball or pull up that quick 3 at most crucial situations. History has shown the damage Stock is capable of inflicting, he’s silently killed the Bulls.
John Stockton hands down one of the coldest PG’s everrr!!! He destroyed my young lakers team it was so frustrating but then invigorating when lakers finally got past em!! 🥲😂😂
What makes that debate even more comical is the fact Isiah Thomas himself once said Stockton was held back by Sloan's system in Utah, and that he believed Stockton would've scored at a much higher rate in a more free-wheeling offense.
I’m not really a fan of Max, but he definitely beat Stephen a badly in multiple debates. Made Stephen a look stupid. And this is why max is not on first take anymore
One of the reasons I stopped watching first take was I couldn't stand how much SAS used to shit on Max. Didn't know why cus I never noticed him do that with anyone else. Even objectively stupid people like Perkins didn't get it like that
What happened to Max is similar to what happened to Shannon, they became bigger and better than the boss. Oddly enough, Steven A. and Skip started together, and fired their subornates for similar reasons; they became bigger than the boss.
Back then I didnt realize how Stephen was to max. He looked like he hated max lol. Those personal attacks shows stephen a was fed up with max. Lol Max composure was on point idk how he did it.
Stephen A’s method of debate against Max was to just get louder and louder because he couldn’t prove he’s smarter than max like he could with Skip. With Skip, all Stephen A ever did was use the crazy long complicated words no one ever uses to try and look smart but couldn’t with Max bc Max probably knows the words and their definitions and would call him out on using them wrong lol
I think the LeBron vs KD argument about who is the most skilled offensive player showed me that Max has ten times the Basketball knowledge that Stephen A has. I think the fact that he didn’t play organized basketball should be an insult to Stephen A more than it should be to Max at this point, because he absolutely murdered him when he said “offense doesn’t mean just scoring”
I really don't think it's the TO thing. I think it's because Max never respected Stephen A as the guy of First take or as the "basketball guy". Almost in every clip you showed Stephen A pretty much said that. "You didn't ask me about a jab or a body shot, you asked me about a jump shot". Stephen A felt Max couldn't tell him nothing outside boxing and didn't like the fact he debated him so confidently on such subjects. In fact, the only time Max actually deferred was the TO situation. In other words Stephen A has a massive ego, Max didn't give a shit about that.
@@rashaads3045yea and it’s hilarious SAS feels that way because he literally doesn’t even know basketball. He’s only on air because he’s a caricature. He’s like a muppet. He does that loud little voice and throws his fit it’s all a caricature. He’s annoying as hell
Typical tactic of raising your voice or redirecting when you can’t refute someone factually. Also, there’s plenty of people that are knowledgeable about sports without having played it competitively
@@Jordyrugby Yeah, the analogy won't work for those with limited ability to analyze or no ability to apply logic. Furthermore, I never said it was the "best" analogy, mate, as it does require the aforementioned attributes. 😅
Really a face of fear and embarrassment. You could see he wished he never said it. No one makes a heavy comment like that followed by “I’m just sayin” unless they’re embarrassed
Bro I’m with T.O on this one! Max was standing up for black people on more than just this social issue which is why T.O said that. Stephen A was saying the stuff that makes his bosses happy which is cool but don’t belittle max and others for their opinion.
I feel that Stephen A. felt threatened by Max. He did Max wrong. Even tried to get into Max's boxing world. It got so uncomfortable that I was wishing that Max would get up one day and kick his ass on live TV.
Max was getting more credit on his show than he was because SAS was attacking black athletes and not addressing cultural situations appropriately and max was.
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Max is an example of what not kissing ass and having a different opinion looks like. They’re getting rid of real sports analyst and turning it into a culture war
This is the corporate world in a nutshell.
Stephen ain't been s**** and skip left
The ratings were fine and he got crushed regularly. Not because Max was trying to crush him but because Steven A. Has low self-esteem and has a fear of inferiority....
It's sad.
He's a grown man with millions of dollars and he still can't go over his inferiority. Complexes
Bro I legit don't watch American sports or tv anymore and this is coming from an insane 90's NBA on NBC kid with Champion Jerseys and Penny Hardaway sneakers. NFL 80s and 90s Giants. Huge fan of Baseball and now nothing. I refuse to be apart of the culture war of USA. I grew up in the 80s and 90s in a mixed very mixed area of NYC and high school everyone got along. Legit everyone. Nowadays this USA tries to make it seem we always had problems. Done. I been watching the current Sumo Tournament in Japan that's going on right now and I am loving it. I will continue to check out other overseas sports and support Hockey outside of the NHL because the NHL simps now for Americans and ESPN too
I said the same thing. Max knew his stuff. Steven a was threatened by max
I can respect that, I ultimately always consider the bias either way in media, it’s become a protective measure naturally. A well educated and thoughtful person can weed out bs
@@DannyP-dm1pw I love basketball And I am an agreeance that has become annoying.
I'm also a huge UFC fan and I'm praying it takes quite a while before that becomes with the NBA boxing and NFL have become
100%. This was all about the Terrell Owens comment. And quiet as kept. As a black person I have much more respect for Max Kellerman on social issues.
Facts. Same.
Steven A. Smith gets paid for being controversial, he goes out of his way to do so. To me he is entertaining but sometimes he takes it to far especially with these clips of disrespect to Kellerman
I agree🫱🏿🫲🏾
That's right, SAS is all Mouth, probably can't fight a lick !
Same & same. 💯
Stephen A is the example of “ If I’m louder, I’m right”
Exactly
He was right though 😂😂😂😂💯 stop whitewashing everything
@@Duckduckgoose17he wasn't right and I don't have to mention a color to know that😂😂
@@Duckduckgoose17 white washing? I Ain’t even white but boy do you like to bring up race into everything. It’s like your get out of jail free card.
Precisely
Max is one of the few guys on TV that wasn't a character. He utilized logic, and that will always prevail in debating.
He utilized logic as long as it didn't involve iguadola
@@carefulilickwindows6881yea not gonna lie he was always accurate until it came to iggy
I WANT IGUODALA 🎉🎉🎉
Just like when he took kawhi over kobe? & igoudala over curry?
Agreed. The fact he grew up in the boxing culture makes him not bias. He just sees facts.
I miss max on first take. He would make Stephen A look crazy and I loved it!
Well, he is crazy.
💯💯💯
and thats exactly why stephen a couldnt work with him! get this bozo dallas Hater outta here. they should only let stephen do basketball
I don't lol max lame af
And he would do it without even trying.
The gap and education and intelligence was outstanding
These clips make me realize how much I miss max. A show with him and Shannon would be good
Fax. Him and Shannon is the real combo
It's actually a joke how much more Max understood and followed the sport compared to Stephen A. Stephen is only a personality, he knows virtually nothing about sports. His best sport is supposed to be baskbetball and he's the second worst analyst in the game outside of Perkins.
I used to always say Max had the best takes on the show and y’all called me nuts! Damnit man I hate that we can’t realize what we have until it’s gone but even his most ridiculous takes MADE SENSE.
It wouldn’t be good, it’d be great. Stephen A is trying to mask the firing of Max with Shannon because he knows he’s universally respected and loved.
@@lesnarbuiltthepyramids3788for real bro!! I remember if you sided with max people would flipped tables 😂
Stephen A’s reaction to Terrell Owens saying Max seems blacker than him never ceases to take me out. 😂😂😂
First time I saw it. Wow. Massive burn MASSIVE
What gets me is max trying his hardest to keep a straight face 😂😂… hes sitting there like 😳😏
Max is blacker than SAS.
Watch the segment with Meek Mill about the most influential rappers to the NBA.
Also, Max can spit on the mic.
Max is well respected by the boxing org. SAS pretends that he knows boxing/fighting (watch the clip with Joe Rogan too) lol.
@@cheesesteakphilly the Rogan stuff was embarrassing to watch
@@gregdaze2390😂😂😂😂😂
Max " That's on you, bruh. You say what you gotta say." I feel you, Max.
Best comment
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Stg
As Wiley said, the dude is smart, educated, a history major, and much more. He’s not someone you can just walk over
History majors are always sleepers. Those dudes are always very intelligent.
Stephen A walked over him many times.
@@yuhyuhitsyaboi5460History itself has to be precise and accurate so I’d imagine to most history majors it’s second hand. Especially coming from an Ivy League status school. Not like he’s a history major from ASU. (Go devils)
Stephen A is just a big loud mouth. Brings little substance
@@domagojhrgovic7419yeah and sometimes my broken watch tells the correct time twice a day. More times than not, Max walked over SAS and Embarrassed him on live TV and he wasn’t used to to. He was used to arguments with Skip. Someone who is a world class journalist and has seen first hand more about sports than SAS will ever learn. But plays the part of villain and fellow blow hard. Vs Max Kellerman who is a able to debate and carry out a cogent discussion without having to yell every three second to be heard!
Max delivered a very calm, nuanced, and fact-based argument during debates. He sprinkled in some low-key sarcasm and understated comical pettiness that was very entertaining. SCREAMIN' A SMITH just couldn't cope with that skill set.
Screaming A..,lol...,loud dont make you right.
Accurate
Max and Marcellus would actually be a fun show - on sports or anything they choose to talk about.
Max Kellerman was ruining the show, he didn’t understand how the show was to operate, so he had to go
@@jmiyagi12345max and Marcellus both were on SportNation together and have worked together before
We all loved max 😂😂.. so sad to see him gone
Speak for yourself. Don't say "we all"
I didn't 😂😂😂
Not all probably half tho
I didn't
@@GOATSO99 closer to like 70 percent
Max Kellerman is an under-appreciated genius. The methodical ways in which he angles his argument mimics a chess game. He positions it such that the rebuttal from his counterpart(s) further strengthen his point the further they dive into theirs, and he knows it. Because as soon as they scoff at his point, he shoots empirical evidence right at them, and all they can say is, “But you was never an athlete”.
And now the new trick is "and you was never even a journalist dog!?"-
Max made Stephen A look bad
because Max was smarter and made
a lot better points when debating.
Stephen A only knew how to yell and race bait.
I rather listen to max any day of the year rather than someone who starts to get loud if someone tells him he’s wrong 😂
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
@@derpderpin1568your crazy. He’s an actual analyst. Everybody knows SAS is the worst sports analyst on TV. He’s a character, a muppet. All he does is do that little loud foolish voice and get all caricature like. Dudes a comedian
@@derpderpin1568 HAH 🤡
Dude was terrible on basketball takes lol y'all slow
@kalebanth8323 I agree about Stephen A but Max was horrible. I stopped watching a about 2 years ago
After max left, first take is still wack.
It's worst. They've got Mad Dog
@@mrRambleGamble 😆 🤣 😂 😹
@@mrRambleGamble😂😂😂
Yea its bad..now they got shannon..still 🗑
Ratings say otherwise
I think Max and Shannon Sharpe would honestly be an amazing first take lead. SAS been doing this shit for too long.
Agreed never thought about that combo
Bro it’d be a perfect combo I wish it was possible
Basketball topics would be atrocious 😭
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 the entertainment factor would be 30x what it is now though 😂
@@xxtooshiestyxx8756 couldn't be any worse than Stephen's
Max was soooooo unbothered by the screaming and buffoonery. It’s like my toddler throwing a tantrum 😂😂😂
All of Max's kids are girls so he's used to tantrums and attitudes 😂
Stephen A Smith is the prime example of the old saying, Sometimes it is better to keep your mouth shut and let people assume you are stupid rather than open it and remove all doubt..
@@samcouch-vi4mh Bahahahaha, yup
He had to deal with that old white dude on hbo. This is nothing
Loved when max would just grin while S.A. blood pressure was rising 😂
😂😂😂😂
He knows sas is an emotional lil girl 😂 😂😂😂😂😂🤣😂🤣
Bottom line is that every time there was a moment to speak on black inequality and systemic racism in America, Max had apex level consciousness, articulate, concise delivery and a tonne of facts. He repped us hard. Stephen A instead of being appreciative of the solidarity, he choose ego, jealousy and inadequacy. His selfish ego could not accept that Max was spitting the gospel on Black issues better than him. SAS always had the perspective of corporate America first, racial equality second.
Max peddling the fake woke victimhood narrative prevalent in the black community doesn't make him cool. It makes him an insufferable, preachy ideological clown who's concerned with boosting his social profile by saying all the socially/corporate accepted and approved things. But that's also due to the fact that he belongs to the small hat tribe that's anti-white and loves to pin races against each other. Apart from that, he was great as an analyst.
Well said.
exactamente!
They both had the same opinion, there was no diversity in thought in any of those conversations. Echo chamber
Perfectly said
Hey I'm a black man and I miss max . His comments was always on point and witty. Especially when it came to the LeBron MJ goat debate
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
You saying you are a black man doesnt validate your comment anymore on top of the fact I dont think you are a black man. Especially when you hide yourself behind a profile that gives 0 context on who you really are. Just be yourself kid it will work out better for you.
Yeah, I think Stephen A didn't like that Max made him look like an idiot.
@@derpderpin1568bad troll. Make a different comment.
Max knew way more about baseball, hockey boxing, they were even in football and you can give basketball to Smith. Smith ip more succinct and Max more nuanced. If you're a centrist like I am you like what they both brought to the table.
Arguing that Stockton shouldn't have been on the Dream Team is crazy. He is EXACTLY the PG you want on a team of scorers with big egos. And the Dream Team won every game by 50+ so how can you go back and say it needed improvement?! Then they talk about the players nowadays who can't even win gold like they are on the same level.
Probably just want a change of color
Smh
“Players nowadays who can’t win gold”🤣 why you so emotional?? It didn’t matter who was on the dream team they played against nobody lol I enjoyed that team just to see them together but bringing up how much they won by just shows you know nothing about ball beyond being a fanboy
Stephen A saying he’s in the streets everyday is the biggest lie ever lol
Right... He goes from the studio set to his 20 million dollar home
Yea, walking from your home to your driver to go to work is not being in the streets😂
Bruh.. I'm dying lmao
And who would want to be in the streets lol
Facts
I know that Terrell Owens take is the reason Max isn’t there, but it’s starting to seem as if SAS knew Max was simply smarter than him, and he couldn’t allow that.
The TO thing was the straw that broke the camels back, but the writing was on the way way before.
It was obvious. Joe Budden asked Smith about it in a podcast and smith said he didn't want to be #2.
Max went to northwestern so I imagine he's incredibly smart
Edit: excuse me he went to Columbia
It's so obvious
To comment was the last straw, SAS was insecure long before
When Skip did something like this to Shannon everyone makes a big deal yet when Stephen A did it to Max nobody says anything
Facts
Steven A is a god! stop the blasphemy!
@@DeShawnMitchell a god? Oh yeah ur delusional
@@DeShawnMitchell How does his ass taste? 🤪
@@DeShawnMitchell He took over for George Costanza as Lord of the Idiots.
Used to watch Max all the time on HBO boxing, and even though he was young, you could tell how intelligent, informed, and thoughtful he was
Max came with statistics, facts, and most important, respect. You didn't have to agree with him, but he was respectful about debating sports topics. Stephen A came with opinions, loud angry opinions, and seemed to get louder and crazier the more his opinions were opposed with facts. If you tear down First Take and look to rebuild a professional sports show, I'm starting with Max over Stephen A.
Steven A only their because of his personality not his intelligence on sports
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
@@derpderpin1568 I assume you're a racist pos if you're repeating this bs comment everywhere
Stephen A came with the fax and knowing a little something about basketball, Max Kellerman, who probably never watch the basketball game in his life, he only read stories about what happened the basketball games that’s why he got fired
@@jarodwilson4946 "Fax"? Gee, wonder why you're defending Smith? Birds of a certain colored feather, flock together, ain't that right... boy.
Stephen A leans into the screeching, loud, emotional stereotype. Can't stand him.
Exactly!!
Yeah, anytime he thinks he's Inferior. He gets loud and ignorant 😅
He did lol
Traits of being raised by women
That's because he grew up with like 8 females.
Max takes wasn't bad at all😂😂 The hate was real lol
@@darkrai7597everyone has bad takes
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
The only bad take he bad was the Iggy taking the last shot
@@derpderpin1568 got dam dude what Max do to you? I seen you post this exact comment multiple times. Get a life
No, he clearly understood and followed the game far more closely than Stephen A., Stephen is there for personality, no one that actually follows any sport closely, and by that I don't mean people that was espn all day, you know the knowledge wasn't even comparable.
Poor Max. What a nightmare it must be to work with Steven A. Especially on tv.
I would have quit than wait to be fired.
He probably liked the money
especially in a time where if you disagree you're labeled a racist lol
#FACTS. I would have been slapped the 💩 outta him live on air
Marcellus Wiley exposed SAS perfectly explaining Max was set up from the beginning to look bad and make SAS look good like he’s “the peoples champ” Luckily Max had to much integrity and stood up for what’s right and SAS had a problem with it. #teammax all day
Yeah to elaborate Wiley knows Max as they hosted a radio show together.. basically said max is a historian, Ivy League educated person. Stephen A wanted a token white man, but max is not that guy. He ran circles and made Stephen a look bad. So he had to get max out of there.
Max and Marcellus on ESPNLA back in the day was great radio. Their chemistry and banter was next level.
Love how max uses stats, facts, and examples to make a point. Stephen A just tries to win debates by yelling louder.
And then he rolls his eyes when Max brings up stats and facts like they’re for nerds and mean nothing. Stephen A is a tv personality not a legit analyst.
Indeed he’s made a living off of being a loud argumentative guy. His actual sport’s knowledge is lacking for someone with so many years in sports media.
@@MisterMann-kh9xb If that was the case, he wouldn't still have a job or be so respected.
@@Rich-km7pr Bro just called Stephen A respected. Also the dude keeps a job because he pulls ratings due to how outrageous he is.
Yelling and race baiting are Stephen A's GO TO'S
He saw Max as a threat and was nervous he would loose his job to Max.
Facts
You may be right there
Exactly!!!!
@@MisterMann-kh9xbhe spoke about it on a podcast. He basically got max fired and tried to justify it
I can relate to Max wholeheartedly. I look forward to when he returns to the sports commentary landscape with his own sports podcast, especially focused on Boxing/Combat Sports but definitely not limited to it. I believe he could continue what he was able to establish at HBO boxing. It just takes the right fighter (Crawford) era to help him do that.
He was great with boxing. Miss dude. These analysts outside of JJ and Shannon suck
I remember this angry Stephen and Max just smiling through the disrespect..😂
I remember seeing Max on public access TV so many years ago talking boxing and I enjoyed listening to him then. Seeing him make it to ESPN was amazing. He has always had the passion, voice and knowledge. I hope he lands a spot somewhere that respects what he brings. All love for Max, he deserved better.
Max on Boxing, I remember.
And MMA, he talks a lot of nonsense when it comes to that as well. Even Joe Rogan would look at SAS like what are you talking about. And Joe respects him enough to not go off on him. SAS needs to chill.
I watched Max back in the 1980s as well. He was just a kid and already he was an expert and was delivering lucid analysis.
Max Kellerman and Jalen Rose doing a show together would be a must watch. Hope they both get back to work soon I'm over ESPN at this point.
💯
I’d freaking love that. Great comment sir!!!
Between Stephen A and Malika, I'm sick of ESPN too. Agree 100% 🤮
That would be fire!
Nahh... Jalen Rose is too woke and his Detroit accent isn't great to listen to. Shannon and Max will be better
Damn dude. Honestly, I came into this thinking Kellerman was kind of a clown from all the stuff I have seen of him. This video kind of changed my mind. Dude had some decent points and got shouted down from loud mouth Steven A. Great video, thank you.
If you watched first take back in the day, you would have seen the disrespect. Honestly, it's worse than what skip did to Shannon, but because it's a brother doing it, everyone kept silent.
Good job, that was 10 months ago. Have you woken up to all the other lies?
@@USAbestcountryever hey weirdo what the fuck are you talking about? This is a video about sports personalities on TV
Y’all realize JJ ain’t been on first take in a while? I think whenever their are co-hosts who are logical and can provide more compelling arguments than Stephen A, he gets em out of there 😂
Yup. Lol. Ain't seen JJ in forever.
Basketball season is over 😂why would jj be on set for football takes
No BASKETBALL IS ON. JJ don't talk football😂
@FaceFamous tis is true. But they don't just cover only football. Football is the main topic though.its football season. So tis is true.
He wasn’t a football or baseball player. When the last time you seen Perkins? 🤣🤦🏾♂️
Here's the real. Stephen A didn't like that Max was seen as campaigning for black issues better and more articulate than he. Also, Max was the anti-Skip Bayless. He didn't say many things just for shock value. And thirdly, Undisputed became more entertaining than First Take.
I agree
That was the double edge with max though and kind of a point to SAS. When max did have a hot take or something created “shock value” it was 9/10 strictly analytics based without complete or proper context. Love him or hate him, max has said some of the most outlandish things in sports talk history. “TOM Brady and the cliff (4 years early at that), Kawhi being more clutch than Kobe, LeBron was put here to be the greatest PG that ever lived (current is the all time leader in turnovers). Etc. Not saying he was a terrible talking head, but he def only understands black and white and that’s never the true story in sports.
@@Gemini050788 You said it perfectly. Playing off of Skip's ridiculousness is the formula that worked for Stephen A and Shannon.
Here's the real... says the basics.. 😅
@@HD00957 lol you right
I love this resurgence of love for Max … Good eventually prevails … sometimes quickly , sometimes slowly … but usually with a dude like SAS , one’s true colors become revealed .
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
@@derpderpin1568bootlicker alert ⚠️ 📢
Lmfao you don't know about women but you still talk about them (and fail) 😢
lmao posted this comment 4 times and not a single person liked it, is this Stephen A's burner? lmao dick riding hard@@derpderpin1568
Man Max was the only one on ESPN ever bringing up interesting valid well thought out arguments.
The only thing I didn't like about Max was that he was too subservient to Stephen A. He should have been calling him out for the clown he is. By the end of their run he was like an abused house wife. Stephen A Smith needed to be checked.
Its practically stephen a’s show, what do you expect
That’s career suicide. Stephen A got to much power to let that slide
The man has a wife and kids he needed to put food on the table for. If it was me, I would have definity been fired but I think Max did the right thing for him.
Max was getting paid a lot of money tk do that show, a lot of us put up with a lot of shot if the money is right,
None of you would risk losing that kind of money because some dude is ego tripping
Imagine being paid 5 million a year, but quitting your job because the dude you work with is an asshole.
Some of y’all making 40k a year in a job full of assholes and you don’t quit lol, it is what it is,
Let me get these checks..and take care of my family
You're correct, but had he done that, it would've been career suicide.
Stephen A Smith has always been so insecure in regards to Max Kellerman. Max was always very calm and composed when going up against him because his thinking was much more methodical and intelligent while Stephen A just tries to yell over him all the time. Max simply overwhelmed SAS and Stephen A didn’t know how to handle him.
The more Stephen A speaks of Max, the more RUclips goes back into history, brings the receipts; and Max looks better.
Love Stephen A but he should have kept his mouth shut.
He knew Max was a Real one. So he had to get em off the show. We all see what happened there. Big ups to you Max, get em bro
Dude was in SAS mind rent free 24/7 😂
*is
“HAVE YOU SEEN THE LOCKER ROOMS? HAVE YOU SAT COURTSIDE?”
“Yes.”
“WELL WHATEVA”
🤣🤣
Well when it comes to Stephen A, he was the only guy who took the lead and was able only to win 🏅 the game against the other two guys in his first match in his first season with a goal in his first game of Cup match against a team which is now a two team tournament
This what get me about Stephen A is like nobody knows basketball but him just like the debate on who’s the goat Michael Jordan or LeBron James in that debate no matter what someone said he had all the right and privilege to determine it’s Jordan and not saying Jordan is not the Goat but that opinion is debatable
😂😂😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭😭😭
He was expecting Max to say no so he could keep babbling
I miss max man. He was just a good dude..
"im in the streets everyday" is crazy 😂
I cried laughing bruh
He's no where near the trenches
yea i already knew that. every time Max was right Stephen A would get Livid & add insult to injury. bro is a clown
Max was right more often than SAS…
That’s the truth…
Did he say some wild things ? Yes but so does everyone at times including SAS.
SAS said it was about “chemistry” I actually enjoyed Maxs breakdowns as he made you think outside the box
He was so bad at this. Guy has ZERO knowledge of any sport outside boxing. One of the worst to ever do it on these kinds of shows.
@@derpderpin1568the fact your copy and pasting this comment everywhere let’s me know your clearly not all there in the head relax buddy it’s going to be okay 😢
I WANT IGUADALA !!
@@derpderpin1568 that's bs, he definitely had good knowledge outside of boxing even SAS has said that
Max has waaay more cred.
Said nobody
Said almost everyone.
@@DontDrinkthatstuffan analyst and an actor.
Street Cred
@@DontDrinkthatstuffwhat you said lol tf these people smokin n they still don’t watch max
😂😂 Max is giving him straight facts and all Stephen A has to say is “studies studies studies”
Max was lowkey like “thank you Terrell” 😂
Max is wrong because he never watch the basketball game in his life, he’s a boxing guy and I know it all
@@jarodwilson4946all the basketball facts he just delivered I this video was spot on and I watch basketball
@@jarodwilson4946shut up
Max is a hip-hop head , very well versed in many sports , well spoken . even keel and come across as honest .
Did u see max in rap video😅😅😅
spitten bars too@@DANIELCAPS
I love how Stephen A. is like: I didn't said anything to espn, it was their decision.
And then: I said to them its either me or him.
I'll never forget the time they tried to get him to analyze mma and joe rogan roasted him 😂
@@tclyde865 He's trying to do politics on the side. Screamin' A is such a blowhard, yet he's so successful. Strange world we live in.
@@tclyde865would love to see that. You have a link?
I don’t see how people wake up every morning and watch this ESPN BULLSHIT.
1 thing Stephen A forgot to say about Max. MAX IS REAL ALWAYS 💯
Max is a G.. that's why he still does what he does. And he can debate anyone on anything 🤘
Max is honestly one of the only sports broadcasters that I can listen to without wanting to beat my own skull in
Max Kellerman was articulate and knowledgeable, and not afraid to speak his mind.Therefore a threat to Stephen A. That's why he's not on first take anymore.
Max is waaayyyyyyy better than SAS. He was jealous that Max knew basketball better and didn't concede to him
That’s y max got fired really I don’t like how sa did it but this point is so dumb sa working max is not but max is so much better😅
Max didn’t get the give and take part
@@johnbrown4447nah max was set up too look like a dummy and he flipped it on SAS every time
@@Gypsywasteland that’s what I’m saying now he’s out the league
false
I want to see Max have his own show, and it will show he will have more views without the drama
He did it was called “ this jus in”and it was better than first take
@@ShermCityis that why it ended
@@ShermCityno it wasnt bro get off ya knees 😂
I understand the stephen h@te...but no Kellerman show would not do more views 😂😂😂 come on man
Stephen a was right about CAPernick tho
Max Kellerman was the reason I got into watching sports debate show.
Me too. I guess I prefer logical arguments more than over-the-top nonsense and noise.
Tell me your young ,without telling me your young 😅😂😂
When Steven A told TO “ima check you right now” TO shoulda said “u ain’t checking nothing but your blood pressure Old man” 😅😂
I can tell you as a lifelong Bulls fan. When the Bulls played the Jazz I was as afraid of what John Stockton could do against the Bulls as I was Zeke. The fear level was the same and that’s real talk
John Stockton took one hall of famer in Karl Malone to the finals twice. Three hall of famers took Zeke to the finals three times.
Right, you’re hoping Stock doesn’t steal the ball or pull up that quick 3 at most crucial situations. History has shown the damage Stock is capable of inflicting, he’s silently killed the Bulls.
Bro I let out a huge sigh of relief when Stockton missed that 3 at the end of game 6 in the finals sheesh😢
@@VoidSurfer9 facts
John Stockton hands down one of the coldest PG’s everrr!!! He destroyed my young lakers team it was so frustrating but then invigorating when lakers finally got past em!! 🥲😂😂
The Thomas Vs Stockton debate was painful. The guy leading in all time steals and assists didn’t stand a chance apparently.
What makes that debate even more comical is the fact Isiah Thomas himself once said Stockton was held back by Sloan's system in Utah, and that he believed Stockton would've scored at a much higher rate in a more free-wheeling offense.
The weed debate was more painful. Holy shit SAS is embarrassing.
Terrell Owens was BAFFLED 😂🤣
I’m not really a fan of Max, but he definitely beat Stephen a badly in multiple debates. Made Stephen a look stupid. And this is why max is not on first take anymore
Exactly
😂 I never seen SAS act like that with someone else. Max use to get under his skin. I love it! He needs to bring him back on the show.
One of the reasons I stopped watching first take was I couldn't stand how much SAS used to shit on Max. Didn't know why cus I never noticed him do that with anyone else. Even objectively stupid people like Perkins didn't get it like that
Max knew it to!😂 Always smiling when SAS would go off
10:05 - 'Molly hiding her laugh' straight classic. SAS knows he's fuct up.
Man I took max for granted
We all did
ITS LIKE WATCHING BAD SANTA . LOL
Max knows his worth, he knows when it's worth to talk or not,RESPECT....😊
What happened to Max is similar to what happened to Shannon, they became bigger and better than the boss.
Oddly enough, Steven A. and Skip started together, and fired their subornates for similar reasons; they became bigger than the boss.
so true, didn't realize that
Back then I didnt realize how Stephen was to max. He looked like he hated max lol. Those personal attacks shows stephen a was fed up with max. Lol Max composure was on point idk how he did it.
Stephen A’s method of debate against Max was to just get louder and louder because he couldn’t prove he’s smarter than max like he could with Skip. With Skip, all Stephen A ever did was use the crazy long complicated words no one ever uses to try and look smart but couldn’t with Max bc Max probably knows the words and their definitions and would call him out on using them wrong lol
I think the LeBron vs KD argument about who is the most skilled offensive player showed me that Max has ten times the Basketball knowledge that Stephen A has. I think the fact that he didn’t play organized basketball should be an insult to Stephen A more than it should be to Max at this point, because he absolutely murdered him when he said “offense doesn’t mean just scoring”
The was the point SA got right by the way!
I really don't think it's the TO thing. I think it's because Max never respected Stephen A as the guy of First take or as the "basketball guy". Almost in every clip you showed Stephen A pretty much said that. "You didn't ask me about a jab or a body shot, you asked me about a jump shot". Stephen A felt Max couldn't tell him nothing outside boxing and didn't like the fact he debated him so confidently on such subjects. In fact, the only time Max actually deferred was the TO situation. In other words Stephen A has a massive ego, Max didn't give a shit about that.
It is a lot of it tho..because the amount of players who agreed with TO's take shocked SAS.
Napoleon complex, right? Lol
@@MegaLBreezy100%
@@rashaads3045yea and it’s hilarious SAS feels that way because he literally doesn’t even know basketball. He’s only on air because he’s a caricature. He’s like a muppet. He does that loud little voice and throws his fit it’s all a caricature. He’s annoying as hell
I’d say he respected. Respect doesn’t mean you bow down in reverence he was brought on by Stephen to a show that talked all sports.
Typical tactic of raising your voice or redirecting when you can’t refute someone factually. Also, there’s plenty of people that are knowledgeable about sports without having played it competitively
Exactly. You don't have to be watchmaker to tell time.
@@NclghtBut you do have to be a watchmaker to accurately describe its inner workings. 🤷🏻♂️
@@NclghtYeah that’s not the best analogy mate….😅
@@dnlp89 but not the inner workings of time, duh.
@@Jordyrugby Yeah, the analogy won't work for those with limited ability to analyze or no ability to apply logic. Furthermore, I never said it was the "best" analogy, mate, as it does require the aforementioned attributes. 😅
I actually miss Max it felt like they were actually beefing everyday on first take tho 😂
I just loved how J-Will acted as if he had an actual rational take.
"then why am i right so often" is such a hard response
Especially in that clip
Max little smirk kills me 😂
“I’m just sayin dawg, I’m just sayin” with that smirk on his face was hilarious
Really a face of fear and embarrassment. You could see he wished he never said it. No one makes a heavy comment like that followed by “I’m just sayin” unless they’re embarrassed
Bro I’m with T.O on this one! Max was standing up for black people on more than just this social issue which is why T.O said that. Stephen A was saying the stuff that makes his bosses happy which is cool but don’t belittle max and others for their opinion.
@@abuhaadiyah9403you crazy as hell...you must didn't see TO tweets????😂😂😂😂☠ mans STILL on SAS ass
I feel that Stephen A. felt threatened by Max. He did Max wrong. Even tried to get into Max's boxing world. It got so uncomfortable that I was wishing that Max would get up one day and kick his ass on live TV.
Max was getting more credit on his show than he was because SAS was attacking black athletes and not addressing cultural situations appropriately and max was.
EXACTLY
As soon as Max was booted, I stopped watching. Stephen A. is annoying fluff.
Max needs his own show end of debate !!
He is my bot but he had ine andthey ended it.
People don’t want logic they want entertainment
@@TRUmikloyup, they want a circus.
@@TRUmiklohe is entertaining he just needs a partner like his boy Wiley to goof off with
@@TRUmiklo
True, Dana should hire him for the ufc they have plenty of shows to be on
Max was the show and he was very educated and he knew a lot more about the industry
“Studies studies studies” 😂
We all know what the A in Stephen A means.
“INCORRECT” 😂😂😂 shit sent me flying
Max was bodying Stephen A in all the social and political issues 😂😂
By being a Democrat suck up?
9:52 Max was clinching that mouth like his life depended on it 😂
Id love to see Max tell his side of the story. Seens like hes got more people onnhis side. Stephen As reputation is definitely taking a hit.
Anybody who says marijuana is t a gateway drug never partied. Without weed we would’ve never tried shrooms or Molly. Weed is the first step everybody knows that
9:44 will live forever in SAS head. BECAUSE IT WAS TRUE😂😂😂😂😂😂 The T.O. grin, the cough, Max trying to keep a straight face😅😅😅😅😅
It's not true...foh a white man could never
Max should’ve said something to the affect of “Cuz I’m cool like that” 💩 would’ve been classic 😂😂😂😂
Stephen A makes me sick
"Max is blacker than you"
Please define "black"...
That proves TO’s point
If u gotta ask that question u already lost lmao. Molly spit up her damn drink laughing at Stephen a white ass lol
If you gotta ask that question…that’s bad.
Kellerman was better then stephen a smith, he left race out of it
Max Kellerman is intellectual, classy, and keeps his composure. Doesn’t get emotional