OMG. I did the same thing just today hoping to end my woes. And I guess I was right looking at your video. Thank You so much. Somehow, the internet has very little information regarding this issue. I recently bought a Marlin 6 2022 with a similar setup. The chain started slipping after a few rides. The local dealer couldn't figure out the reason. He actually advised me to replace the chain and cassette. I didn't believe him. Another technician said he replaced my smallest cog and it would solve the problem. Paid him (although I am sure he did nothing). I even asked him if its due to the clutch. He advised me to keep it off. Problem persisted. I just trusted my instinct to switch it on this morning and had a great problem free ride. And now your video says it all. Thanks again
Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with Shimano deore m5120 because I just bought one. I haven't put it in my bike thou. This is very useful to me. You are truly great people. Thanks again.
I would highly recommend also checking the derailleur setup. I bought a very slightly used Trance X 29, where the previous owner may have never put the clutch on. Worse, the B screw had never been set, and the H and L screws were also incorrectly set.
Protip: If your changing to lower gear and your rear derailleur starts making sounds, you could open the clutch system with 2mm allen key and service them. Use teflon grease or any similar. While at that, adjust the other 2mm allen key screw inside to make the pulley stiffer without impacting shifting to reduce chain slaps.
Bro...I was going nuts for the passed two days. New bike but whenever I was riding hard in the high gears, something undefinable happened. Something "snapped" back, sometimes very hard. Happened when I was padelling very hard and stopped to roll. I DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO GOOGLE. At some point I realized it was the chain that got lose and back to tension, which causes this snappy feeling. BUT I STILL DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO GOOGLE. I tried for hours to find someone having this issue, to get a solution. Then at some point I read something about "clutch". Turns out, it was off and this was the only problem to all this. I got on it by your video, im just here cause im so happy it was just this.
Thank you thank you. This is the exactly what happened to me. I sent a a video to a bike shop and they told me my bike needed a tune up. New bike only 6 rides. All it was was the Lever Switch was in the down position. Thank you for this video!!
I’ve just picked up what was supposedly “professionally assembled” Norco Storm 2 MTB from a shop and rode it back home for about 20 KM. Gorgeous bike with quality components but I was really annoyed with the slow gear shifting and occasional phantom shifts during my trip. Started doing research, bumped into your video, checked whether it was in correct position and what so you know, it was not. I pulled it up and definitely noticed how tighter the chain got. Just went out for a quick ride and definitely noticing smoother shifts and no gear skipping on the short trip. Will see how it goes on a longer ride but the difference is very noticeable. Thanks for the tip, mate!
Same issue here, just got a rebuilt drive train, they either forgot or didnt know which position to have it in. I can see why it happens buts its annoying none the less.
Ah what a relief! I just got my bike back from having a service and rear cassette change and the chain slap was horrible and there was a weird creaking noise I could not trace - This was the cause of both! Thank you :)
I find it interesting how many bikes have been purchased and the owners were never told about this. Pretty simple walk through of bike by the shop would add a lot to customer service on their end
Thank you you help me out. I bought my bike today and it was down. I was doing a quick search on my derailer you would’ve thought the shop would’ve done it when they put it together
I almost put in an order near the end of last year for a full suspension bike that would have arrived in April. I ended up waiting and that company stopped taking orders when I finally went back. I'm up in the air right now if i just keep waiting or if I find something else I like.
Thanks for the shout out really appreciate it. Feel famous now 😂😂😂😂😂. Enjoy the bike did abit of riding & i enjoyed mine. I also subscribed to your channel. Thanks once again
This switch needs a warning sticker on it! I rode my brand new Nukeproof Scout for 10 minutes. I had checked everything. Read all the instructions not new to bikes but I am new to the 1x drivetrains. I went over a few bumps, chain came off the front sprocket and locked everything up which sent me over the handlebars. Cost me a new chain bc the original was twisted to hell and back.
Can’t even tell you how many people I have heard from after I posted this video that had an issue. Sorry to hear this screwed up your chain and caused a fall. Hope all is well now that you got it flipped.
@@DadTechTV Thanks man! Yeah no real injury and the bike is amazing now. Your video should be included with every bike that is sold with this derailleur on it. LOL!
My brand new Cube Touring has the same derailler as presented. I had my chain dropping from the front blade every once in a while without any obvious reason. After 2 unsuccesfull bike repair shops the third spotted immediately the wrong lever position. By switching the lever. the chain tension is increased. The chain did not drop since. Thanks a lot for your info.
I have the deore shadow + on my 2022 full suspension trail bike and i use the clutch "on" when im on the trails and i have it "off" whem im just riding around town etc... it works great ive never had and issue with it.
My Marlin 7 came with the lever in the "Off" position and shifts fine. When I moved the Lever to "On", there's a lot of issues with shifting in the shop/garage. I haven't tried it under load.
That's interesting that you have an issue with shifting once it's turned on. You may want to download the documentation direct from shimano and dial it in a bit as it suggests leaving it on except when doing maintenance.
Well I did test it under load and it is much better. But when shifting in the shop without a load, it had issues. My guess is the clutch has to be off when working on the bike or removing the wheel as per the instructions. Also, going to the 32T chainring which retains the stock chainline as well as using this clutch really quieted things down.
I've been riding my Norco fluid for years and cursed how often my chain comes off on descents. My fiance also hates how much noise the chain slap makes on her Kona. I can't believe the fix has been right under our noses this entire time 🤣
Awesome help guide dude! I got my Trek X Caliber 7 like 2 month ago and could not figure out why the chain was making so much slapping noise. My lever was in down position too and my bike shop handed it to me like this. Being total noob to the MTB or bike scene (my last bike was like 24 years ago when I was 12) I didn't know that I had engage the lever. Thanks a lot for this video.
I"m a road cyclist who has recently bought an MTB to change it up a bit so, I'm new to this. I've got a Giant Talon with the same set up and I've had conflicting information as to where that switch/clutch should be. I looked on RUclips and some "experts" have said it should be on (up) and only off (down) when taking off the wheel or working on it. Others have said on for the road and off for the trails. Even the mechanic at the shop where I bought it from said off for road and on for trails. I'm confused now!
5120 rear derailleur can be used with 2x10 (11-42 casette), 1x10 (11-42 or 11-46 casette) or 1x11 (11-42 or 11-46 casette) Chain need to be HG-X 10 speed (CN-HG95, CN-HG54) Or HG-X11 11 speed
From feedback here, seems like a lot of shops don’t flip the clutch for some reason. I have attributed mine to all the shops being crazy over the pat year with a huge increase in demand for bikes and then being harder to get.
For all of you wanting a marlin 7 I got one of the first in production 2021 in the same deep blue color, and I have had many issues with it, the hubs become rough easily and the BOTTOM BRACKET HAS A LOT OF PLAY IN IT I have had mine for over 6 months and just purchased a title st1 35 mm stem, race face bars, and odi lock ons. I will update the comment if I remember when I get it back from the shop and tell you how it feels.
I need to have a look at the new model of trek marlin 7 didn't see it yet, had same problem with mine it was a 2018 model I changed the wheels and the bottom bracket absolutely dirt not even a bit of grease on the b bracket, was rusty, rear hubs making noice, didn't even made a complaint to their website that's the problem if every one makes complaints they might put better things on the bikes !!
Thanks for the heads up I still like 2X front chainrings but my next bike could have a 11-42 10 speed rear cluster with the clutched RD-M5120 rear derailleur and a single front narrow wide chainring with Prowheel charm cranks or claw cranks. The Deore stuff is hard to match on price and performance.....
I'd also think about getting a chain guide. A little extra protection. Keep biking dude. Top man for getting out with your lad. Next you'll be Bikepacking
I was also unaware this feature was on this derailleur. To be honest, the bikes should probably leave the bike shops with the clutch on, but I'm sure its easy to leave it off when putting together a ton of bikes. Always good to know how your equipment works also. Hope this video helped!
I got the same product but my switch is in the off position. it has been working great without the extra tension. (no chain falling). I was questioning myself if the whole clutch thing it was just BS. My bike comes with a chain guard so is pretty quiet already. I will change it to the on position to see if I feel any differents.
For me the change was night and day. Just hopping off curbs would sometimes cause an issue before I realized it had a clutch. Always interesting to see how the same product functions differently.
@@DadTechTV I knew I had a clutch, but thought it was by default on. But I just realized is not. Maybe I will feel a differents while changing gears in rough terrains (when chain is bouncing around) idk.
my dealer explained none of this to me. also new to biking with an M6. I think I need to adjust the deraileur, it has gottan hard to shift in the higher gears.
I had the exact same issue. It came with the clutch disengaged and I left it as is for over 200 miles. I'm now hoping I didn't damage it before I noticed.
My bike was fresh from upgrade, my dealer didn't flip the lever to the on position. Chain wouldn't stay on, chain twisted under the strain of my 750W Bafang.
I watched your video prior to buying my new bike. I just got delivery of a new Kona Dr Dew 12 speed Deore and has the same lever and set to off. The shop told me to put it ON ie tension the chain only when rough area and offroad otherwise leave it OFF position. You are saying leave it on all the time.??
The info I provided here came straight from the manual and I believe it’s still properly linked in the description if you want to take a look. Says to leave it on unless doing maintenance on the bike. But that’s just based on the manual.
Wow man, I have the bike for about a month now, riding it daily, and today after 200 miles in it, I noticed 2 little chips on the chain stay, thanks for your vid, buddy, leaving it on from now, and yea..a better protection film on the chain stay is needed, the one that comes with the bike doesnt cover the full length
I've been putting some miles on mine but haven't done anywhere close to 200 miles in a day... yet. It's getting cold by me, but still trying to get out there. Buying some protection for my frame from the chain is on the top my list, but since I put the clutch on, it's been pretty good. Cheers!
Dude, I’m riding the same bike from few weeks and feel there’s something wrong in the shifting ( very noisy) I took it to bike shop twice and they said nothing wrong..after I locked things change dramatically...thanks
Thank you!. I am riding my ebike for a month and i even notice that switch... it was unlocked all the time... how it happens my dealer didnt aware me about it? i switch it to locked position, and really is more pressure on it.... Hugs
also flip it off if your chain comes off and you need to get it back on the gear. Found that out this week after that plastic thing came off mid ride and bumped my chain off.
Yuppers, just learned about this too, don't feel bad just more tech!😜. Tbh Bike Shops should go through this stuff as a get a familiar product system walk through...
@@DadTechTV my local bike shop did some work for me and when collected bike chain was jumping off and slapping around non stop..took it back and they treat me like an idiot as I did not know about this clutch thing either(they had not bothered to put it back on for me)and I had just spent over 500 quid with them on the service.needless ti say I go elsewherenow.
@@timduncan9745 The Marlin 7 is such a great bike because of components you get for the price, especially as an entry for beginners into mountain biking. Seems like there is a bit of expectation for us to know about all the components, but after posting this video, a lot of us were not aware of the clutch. Hopefully this helps more people.
@@DadTechTV I actually have a scott scale carbon hardtail bike mate but has shimano on with the clutch like yours..at moment its causing me more problems with clutch on.recently had a new chain fitted and service done but something not right it was fine before the work I paid for🤷♂️
if setup properly it should shift if the switch is engaged or not. there is a link in the description of this video that links to the product site where you can download the documentation to tell you all about the derailleur.
Hi, I'm new to switch gear bikes and I just bought a bike with this same Shimano Derailleur, so I have a question: Could you ride with the clutch disengaged, say you only ride paved, smooth roads, would the pedaling resistance be less with the chain being less under tension? Or is my thinking wrong here? Or is it not recommended to ride without the clutch at all?
I'll just say that the documentation from Shimano says to leave it on except when doing maintenance, however it seems like a lot of people ride with it off, whether they realize it or not. I don't notice a difference as far as pedaling, only notice that the chain falls off when riding off a curb sometimes with it off.
you can use the link in the description of this video to get the product web page and download the manual. it states that it should be in the on position during normal operation. i would assume there would be no additional wear and tear from operating as the manufacturer recommends.
My X-caliber 7 came also with clutch disengaged but when engaged the shifts don't seem as clean . Think a 1x11 would have been better? that low gear ⚙(large sprocket) is a big jump up . Derailleur tension also as to be accurate on this model mech or it does not sync with the cassette teeth & if you look closely it as big & small teeth to help chain pick up .
I'm pretty happy with the 1x11. All a matter of preference depending on how and where you ride. When switching gears i do notice the big jump, but hasn't been an issue yet.
@@DadTechTV Yes I'm happy with it but it's Big jump mechanically if you don't have tension screw set up accurately you won't get a clean shift . Some models of derailleur have set-up marks for this purpose.
I have not seen this issue with my bike @Allyn. After taking a decent fall OTB, I have had the chain go between the wheel and gears. But I think it just needs adjustment. If you are seeing that issue, it is probably something an adjustment can fix.
I just bought my Marlin 7 and on the 4th run i took on it the chain kept on coming off and to the point i could not even ride it. Brought it to Trek and they did fix it the cable tie broke and i thought the guy thought i took it off the cable was sticking way out. so he put a new cable tie on and guess what the cable tie broke...:) He did put a tougher one on it and he re adjusted the derailleur and i went out on the trail again and it was much Better. however it was ghost shifting from gear to gear, i for get what gear i was in but will pay more attention next time i go out. I saw this Video and i went to my bike and sure enough the lever was down, so i am hoping that will fix it, if not back to Trek..
OMG thaank you so much i just got my new bike vitus nucleus 27 vrs and it come with that shifter. i thaught that the shifter is just bad but know i get it thank you so much and i am new to mtb too so yh
OMG. I did the same thing just today hoping to end my woes. And I guess I was right looking at your video. Thank You so much. Somehow, the internet has very little information regarding this issue. I recently bought a Marlin 6 2022 with a similar setup. The chain started slipping after a few rides. The local dealer couldn't figure out the reason. He actually advised me to replace the chain and cassette. I didn't believe him. Another technician said he replaced my smallest cog and it would solve the problem. Paid him (although I am sure he did nothing). I even asked him if its due to the clutch. He advised me to keep it off. Problem persisted. I just trusted my instinct to switch it on this morning and had a great problem free ride. And now your video says it all. Thanks again
This video just saved my bike! I was having some of the same issues now I switched this much smoother
Glad it helped. That little switch makes a world of difference
Thank you guys for sharing your experiences with Shimano deore m5120 because I just bought one. I haven't put it in my bike thou. This is very useful to me. You are truly great people. Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
helped me out, i had no idea what that switch was for. thanks
I would highly recommend also checking the derailleur setup. I bought a very slightly used Trance X 29, where the previous owner may have never put the clutch on. Worse, the B screw had never been set, and the H and L screws were also incorrectly set.
I didn't understand the clutch before watching this, thank you!
Protip: If your changing to lower gear and your rear derailleur starts making sounds, you could open the clutch system with 2mm allen key and service them. Use teflon grease or any similar. While at that, adjust the other 2mm allen key screw inside to make the pulley stiffer without impacting shifting to reduce chain slaps.
Bro...I was going nuts for the passed two days. New bike but whenever I was riding hard in the high gears, something undefinable happened. Something "snapped" back, sometimes very hard. Happened when I was padelling very hard and stopped to roll. I DIDNT EVEN KNOW WHAT TO GOOGLE. At some point I realized it was the chain that got lose and back to tension, which causes this snappy feeling. BUT I STILL DIDNT KNOW WHAT TO GOOGLE. I tried for hours to find someone having this issue, to get a solution. Then at some point I read something about "clutch". Turns out, it was off and this was the only problem to all this.
I got on it by your video, im just here cause im so happy it was just this.
glad to hear it was a simple change in the clutch. never fun to get a new bike and it's not operating as expected.
welcome to mtb where price is skyrocket
Thank you thank you. This is the exactly what happened to me. I sent a a video to a bike shop and they told me my bike needed a tune up. New bike only 6 rides. All it was was the Lever Switch was in the down position. Thank you for this video!!
Glad to know it helped!
Thank you, exactly this. Now I can enjoy my Trek!
Thanks man! that info should be in every bike's manual that has this derailleur
Glad it was helpful!
Oh Snap! Me too! Same model... I’m on it! Cheers from Oz 🍺
Thank You because I have the 2021 roam2, same deore 2x10. Now I have the goods on this lever.
hope this helped you out!
I forget sometimes after fixing a flat to flip it. Put it on your checklist.
Love my Deore 10 speed. Bulletproof.
I’ve just picked up what was supposedly “professionally assembled” Norco Storm 2 MTB from a shop and rode it back home for about 20 KM. Gorgeous bike with quality components but I was really annoyed with the slow gear shifting and occasional phantom shifts during my trip. Started doing research, bumped into your video, checked whether it was in correct position and what so you know, it was not. I pulled it up and definitely noticed how tighter the chain got. Just went out for a quick ride and definitely noticing smoother shifts and no gear skipping on the short trip. Will see how it goes on a longer ride but the difference is very noticeable. Thanks for the tip, mate!
Same bike... exact same problem and same solution. It mustn't be a well advertised component.
Same issue here, just got a rebuilt drive train, they either forgot or didnt know which position to have it in. I can see why it happens buts its annoying none the less.
Same thing, after switched to ON position I finally can feel expensive components, and yes bike was assembled in a shop with good reputation
Ah what a relief! I just got my bike back from having a service and rear cassette change and the chain slap was horrible and there was a weird creaking noise I could not trace - This was the cause of both! Thank you :)
I find it interesting how many bikes have been purchased and the owners were never told about this. Pretty simple walk through of bike by the shop would add a lot to customer service on their end
teah just the video ive been looking for. thanks man
Glad it helped!
If you take the cap off I believe you can actually adjust the friction of the clutch to your preference (mostly for full suspension mountain bikes)
Thanks for the heads up, I'll have to look into that.
I was wondering what that was for. I'm glad I looked it up
Glad it helped!
No wonder my chain fells off constantly. Thank you!
glad the video helped!
Thank you you help me out. I bought my bike today and it was down. I was doing a quick search on my derailer you would’ve thought the shop would’ve done it when they put it together
Glad it helped!
I imagine how exited this guy would be when he finally upgrades to a fs bike, like soo much comfort and much, much better traction, etc..
I almost put in an order near the end of last year for a full suspension bike that would have arrived in April. I ended up waiting and that company stopped taking orders when I finally went back. I'm up in the air right now if i just keep waiting or if I find something else I like.
Thanks for the shout out really appreciate it. Feel famous now 😂😂😂😂😂. Enjoy the bike did abit of riding & i enjoyed mine. I also subscribed to your channel. Thanks once again
Your reply immediately fixed all my frustration with my chain. Thanks for replying and pointing me in the right direction.
@@DadTechTV I enjoyed your videos. I watch alot of bike videos & pick from everybody else lol
You have no idea how many people's frustrations you've solved here. You're a hero my man
Thanks a lot! This video saved my a lot of grey hairs! :)
Glad it helped!!
Didnt know what it did and thanks for exaining what it dose havent had the chain come off but good to know what it dose
Just checked mine after this video I was riding mine the same way thanks for the info
glad the video helped
Thanks man .. i have the same issue .. Cool .. no more skipping .. On a Scott Axia E ride Crossover gravelbike
Glad it helped!
Wow - many thanks for this - I have exactly same thing on a newly delivered cube nature 635 2021 - just pushed the lever up and hope it works
Hope it helps. Keep me updated!!
Holy Bat Vids!! This....Wow, thanks man!! I had no clue what this thing was for!
Glad I could help!
This switch needs a warning sticker on it! I rode my brand new Nukeproof Scout for 10 minutes. I had checked everything. Read all the instructions not new to bikes but I am new to the 1x drivetrains. I went over a few bumps, chain came off the front sprocket and locked everything up which sent me over the handlebars. Cost me a new chain bc the original was twisted to hell and back.
Can’t even tell you how many people I have heard from after I posted this video that had an issue. Sorry to hear this screwed up your chain and caused a fall. Hope all is well now that you got it flipped.
@@DadTechTV Thanks man! Yeah no real injury and the bike is amazing now. Your video should be included with every bike that is sold with this derailleur on it. LOL!
My brand new Cube Touring has the same derailler as presented. I had my chain dropping from the front blade every once in a while without any obvious reason. After 2 unsuccesfull bike repair shops the third spotted immediately the wrong lever position. By switching the lever. the chain tension is increased. The chain did not drop since. Thanks a lot for your info.
It made a huge difference for me, so I'm sure you will be much happier riding now. Glad the bike shop noticed it for you.
Merci ! Cette vidéo a sauvé mes sorties !
Glad it helped!
Thanks for saving me an embarrassing trip to the shop.
Your video helped me. Thank you for posting!! Greatly appreciate it.
Glad it helped!
Hey man, about to get this bike and really want to know as much as I can, this is really helpful. Thanks a lot 👍🏻
Hi Nix. Check out my channel as I have some other videos on the marlin 7 that may give you some additional info.
Thankyou for that good info. Mine has been off since i bought the bike
Glad it helped
thanks, I didn't know about this, made a big difference
Glad this video helped! Thanks.
I was trying to find info about this M5120 everywhere if it has a clutch., Thanks!
Dude thank you for this. I just got a mountain bike and there was a switch with labels on and off on the derailer I had no idea what it was lol
Glad it helped!!
Now I Know what the switch is gonna to use.. thanks Bro, it's solve my courage
Glad to hear the video helped!
I have the deore shadow + on my 2022 full suspension trail bike and i use the clutch "on" when im on the trails and i have it "off" whem im just riding around town etc... it works great ive never had and issue with it.
thank you. Good to know. I've just bought one of these.
My Marlin 7 came with the lever in the "Off" position and shifts fine. When I moved the Lever to "On", there's a lot of issues with shifting in the shop/garage. I haven't tried it under load.
That's interesting that you have an issue with shifting once it's turned on. You may want to download the documentation direct from shimano and dial it in a bit as it suggests leaving it on except when doing maintenance.
Well I did test it under load and it is much better. But when shifting in the shop without a load, it had issues. My guess is the clutch has to be off when working on the bike or removing the wheel as per the instructions. Also, going to the 32T chainring which retains the stock chainline as well as using this clutch really quieted things down.
I've been riding my Norco fluid for years and cursed how often my chain comes off on descents. My fiance also hates how much noise the chain slap makes on her Kona. I can't believe the fix has been right under our noses this entire time 🤣
glad the video helped, and i bet when you go ride now, it will be a whole different experience!!! it was for me.
Awesome help guide dude!
I got my Trek X Caliber 7 like 2 month ago and could not figure out why the chain was making so much slapping noise.
My lever was in down position too and my bike shop handed it to me like this.
Being total noob to the MTB or bike scene (my last bike was like 24 years ago when I was 12) I didn't know that I had engage the lever.
Thanks a lot for this video.
great to hear the video helped!
As simple as it sounds but it is a greate tip, thanks for sharing!
I've been pleasantly surprised by how many people it has helped!
I"m a road cyclist who has recently bought an MTB to change it up a bit so, I'm new to this. I've got a Giant Talon with the same set up and I've had conflicting information as to where that switch/clutch should be. I looked on RUclips and some "experts" have said it should be on (up) and only off (down) when taking off the wheel or working on it. Others have said on for the road and off for the trails. Even the mechanic at the shop where I bought it from said off for road and on for trails. I'm confused now!
Just both mine today thanks for this.
Thank so simple this is what I need it to know.
Great video and advice. I just bought a 11T/46T sprocket and my current derailleur doesn’t work with it. The M5120 is compatible so need to order one.
5120 rear derailleur can be used with 2x10 (11-42 casette), 1x10 (11-42 or 11-46 casette) or 1x11 (11-42 or 11-46 casette)
Chain need to be HG-X 10 speed (CN-HG95, CN-HG54)
Or
HG-X11 11 speed
Damm i just got this fixed on my bike today and find it get clanky at the smallest gear. Thanks man! Im gonna flip it on tommorow and see how it goes
did flipping the clutch on help out?
@@DadTechTV Yes! Smooth like butter. No clanky sound etc. Thank man! Ur awesome!
Thanks man. It's a learning curve!
And the more to learn, the more to spend money on. Haha.
Thanks for that. I had seen that and I didn’t know what it did. 👍🏻
Thanks so much for the info! I got the same bike!
Just in time thanks for the video
Thanks for this man, the shop was supposed to get it all set up for me but I guess they didn't know about this either!
From feedback here, seems like a lot of shops don’t flip the clutch for some reason. I have attributed mine to all the shops being crazy over the pat year with a huge increase in demand for bikes and then being harder to get.
For all of you wanting a marlin 7 I got one of the first in production 2021 in the same deep blue color, and I have had many issues with it, the hubs become rough easily and the BOTTOM BRACKET HAS A LOT OF PLAY IN IT I have had mine for over 6 months and just purchased a title st1 35 mm stem, race face bars, and odi lock ons. I will update the comment if I remember when I get it back from the shop and tell you how it feels.
Always good to hear everyone's experiences so please keep us updated.
I need to have a look at the new model of trek marlin 7 didn't see it yet, had same problem with mine it was a 2018 model I changed the wheels and the bottom bracket absolutely dirt not even a bit of grease on the b bracket, was rusty, rear hubs making noice, didn't even made a complaint to their website that's the problem if every one makes complaints they might put better things on the bikes !!
Thanks for the heads up
I still like 2X front chainrings but my next bike could have a 11-42 10 speed rear cluster with the clutched RD-M5120 rear derailleur and a single front narrow wide chainring with Prowheel charm cranks or claw cranks.
The Deore stuff is hard to match on price and performance.....
I've been very happy with the marlin 7 and it's drivetrain. I did just get a YT Jeffsy with a SRAM x01 also.
Mines on order until April cant wait
April seems far out, but worth the wait!
Gonna move it to the up position when riding now n see difference as I've been riding with clutch down..
How did it work out for you?
@@DadTechTV I'm unsure there still something making noise
Thanks for telling us, also new here.
I'd also think about getting a chain guide.
A little extra protection.
Keep biking dude. Top man for getting out with your lad.
Next you'll be Bikepacking
There is a a good trail near the beach in NJ that you can bikepack. May try to hit that up in the fall.
I have the same bike and did not know that. Thank you
Wow, I didn't even know that existed hahahaha
I'm picking my Marlin 7 up in two weeks (hopefully). Thanks a lot for all the info :)
I was also unaware this feature was on this derailleur. To be honest, the bikes should probably leave the bike shops with the clutch on, but I'm sure its easy to leave it off when putting together a ton of bikes. Always good to know how your equipment works also. Hope this video helped!
You won't regret it best bike for the price in my opinion. I upgraded from a Minelli
thanks alot ! didnt know that, im brand new into mtb. was just checking up on what to do before hitting the trails.
it made a world of difference for me. hope it helps you out!
Thank you for sharing this i have the same bike as you are so i will do that to my Derailleur....
hope it helped!
I got the same product but my switch is in the off position. it has been working great without the extra tension. (no chain falling). I was questioning myself if the whole clutch thing it was just BS. My bike comes with a chain guard so is pretty quiet already. I will change it to the on position to see if I feel any differents.
For me the change was night and day. Just hopping off curbs would sometimes cause an issue before I realized it had a clutch. Always interesting to see how the same product functions differently.
@@DadTechTV I knew I had a clutch, but thought it was by default on. But I just realized is not. Maybe I will feel a differents while changing gears in rough terrains (when chain is bouncing around) idk.
my dealer explained none of this to me. also new to biking with an M6. I think I need to adjust the deraileur, it has gottan hard to shift in the higher gears.
Make sure to download the documents for each component from the manufacturer of that component. They will help with any adjustments you want to do.
Thank you for the information
glad you liked it!
I had the exact same issue. It came with the clutch disengaged and I left it as is for over 200 miles. I'm now hoping I didn't damage it before I noticed.
thanks for the video u solved my problem
Glad to hear it helped!
Thanks a ton for this.
glad it helped!
My bike was fresh from upgrade, my dealer didn't flip the lever to the on position. Chain wouldn't stay on, chain twisted under the strain of my 750W Bafang.
sorry to hear that. Hopefully they work it out for you.
Nice video we are same Deore GS. Ride safe bro.
Thanks, you too!
I watched your video prior to buying my new bike. I just got delivery of a new Kona Dr Dew 12 speed Deore and has the same lever and set to off. The shop told me to put it ON ie tension the chain only when rough area and offroad otherwise leave it OFF position. You are saying leave it on all the time.??
The info I provided here came straight from the manual and I believe it’s still properly linked in the description if you want to take a look. Says to leave it on unless doing maintenance on the bike. But that’s just based on the manual.
Wow man, I have the bike for about a month now, riding it daily, and today after 200 miles in it, I noticed 2 little chips on the chain stay, thanks for your vid, buddy, leaving it on from now, and yea..a better protection film on the chain stay is needed, the one that comes with the bike doesnt cover the full length
I've been putting some miles on mine but haven't done anywhere close to 200 miles in a day... yet. It's getting cold by me, but still trying to get out there. Buying some protection for my frame from the chain is on the top my list, but since I put the clutch on, it's been pretty good. Cheers!
@@DadTechTV I meant 200 miles since I bought it, sorry for that. I explained it wrong.
I've ordered a Norco Storm 1 SE with Shimano Deore RD-M5100 11spd derailer (it doesn't arrive until mid December,...sigh).
Thanks for this clip.
Glad it helped! I'm really happy with this derailleur so far. Hope you are happy with yours as well.
Dude, I’m riding the same bike from few weeks and feel there’s something wrong in the shifting ( very noisy) I took it to bike shop twice and they said nothing wrong..after I locked things change dramatically...thanks
Glad the video helped. It’s been a great bike!
Thank you!.
I am riding my ebike for a month and i even notice that switch...
it was unlocked all the time...
how it happens my dealer didnt aware me about it?
i switch it to locked position, and really is more pressure on it....
Hugs
also flip it off if your chain comes off and you need to get it back on the gear. Found that out this week after that plastic thing came off mid ride and bumped my chain off.
I cut my plastic thing off. Seems like a lot of people are having issues with it coming loose and causing issues.
Yuppers, just learned about this too, don't feel bad just more tech!😜.
Tbh Bike Shops should go through this stuff as a get a familiar product system walk through...
After posting the video it’s been nice to know I’m not alone in not knowing this!
@@DadTechTV my local bike shop did some work for me and when collected bike chain was jumping off and slapping around non stop..took it back and they treat me like an idiot as I did not know about this clutch thing either(they had not bothered to put it back on for me)and I had just spent over 500 quid with them on the service.needless ti say I go elsewherenow.
@@timduncan9745 The Marlin 7 is such a great bike because of components you get for the price, especially as an entry for beginners into mountain biking. Seems like there is a bit of expectation for us to know about all the components, but after posting this video, a lot of us were not aware of the clutch. Hopefully this helps more people.
@@DadTechTV I actually have a scott scale carbon hardtail bike mate but has shimano on with the clutch like yours..at moment its causing me more problems with clutch on.recently had a new chain fitted and service done but something not right it was fine before the work I paid for🤷♂️
@@timduncan9745 carbon frame 👌. Hope it gets worked out soon.
Yep that's solved my problem also😂 cheers dude
Glad it helped!
If i didnt saw this video i would do the same mistake... Thanks man
Glad it helped!
When my clutch is engaged, it doesn’t shift to a higher gear (easier gear) is that normal?
if setup properly it should shift if the switch is engaged or not. there is a link in the description of this video that links to the product site where you can download the documentation to tell you all about the derailleur.
It helped me a lot..thx! ;)
Happy to hear this video is helping out!
Hi, I'm new to switch gear bikes and I just bought a bike with this same Shimano Derailleur, so I have a question: Could you ride with the clutch disengaged, say you only ride paved, smooth roads, would the pedaling resistance be less with the chain being less under tension? Or is my thinking wrong here? Or is it not recommended to ride without the clutch at all?
I'll just say that the documentation from Shimano says to leave it on except when doing maintenance, however it seems like a lot of people ride with it off, whether they realize it or not. I don't notice a difference as far as pedaling, only notice that the chain falls off when riding off a curb sometimes with it off.
so with the clutch on will it wear out my back derailleur quicker or will it not?
you can use the link in the description of this video to get the product web page and download the manual. it states that it should be in the on position during normal operation. i would assume there would be no additional wear and tear from operating as the manufacturer recommends.
Is it just fine to change gear while the clatch is on?
Yes it’s fine
My X-caliber 7 came also with clutch disengaged but when engaged the shifts don't seem as clean . Think a 1x11 would have been better? that low gear ⚙(large sprocket) is a big jump up .
Derailleur tension also as to be accurate on this model mech or it does not sync with the cassette teeth & if you look closely it as big & small teeth to help chain pick up .
I'm pretty happy with the 1x11. All a matter of preference depending on how and where you ride. When switching gears i do notice the big jump, but hasn't been an issue yet.
@@DadTechTV Yes I'm happy with it but it's Big jump mechanically if you don't have tension screw set up accurately you won't get a clean shift . Some models of derailleur have set-up marks for this purpose.
Thank you.
Question sir. Do you experience chain dropping to lowest cog if you back pedal from 46t?
I have not seen this issue with my bike @Allyn. After taking a decent fall OTB, I have had the chain go between the wheel and gears. But I think it just needs adjustment. If you are seeing that issue, it is probably something an adjustment can fix.
Do you fix the bolt next to the attaching bolt or keep it loose?
Lifesaver thank you
Thx, Now im Know what it was✌️
Glad it helped
thank you 100 ..appreciated
Glad to hear the video helped!
I just bought my Marlin 7 and on the 4th run i took on it the chain kept on coming off and to the point i could not even ride it. Brought it to Trek and they did fix it the cable tie broke and i thought the guy thought i took it off the cable was sticking way out. so he put a new cable tie on and guess what the cable tie broke...:) He did put a tougher one on it and he re adjusted the derailleur and i went out on the trail again and it was much Better. however it was ghost shifting from gear to gear, i for get what gear i was in but will pay more attention next time i go out. I saw this Video and i went to my bike and sure enough the lever was down, so i am hoping that will fix it, if not back to Trek..
How did turning on the clutch work out for you? Guessing no more chain issues
@@DadTechTV hey thanks after turning that clutch up never had a problem, that must have fixed the ghost shifting.
Great video
That was the problem on my wife's bike. Saved her a trip to the bike shop
Glad to hear the video saved you a trip.
Thank you
I have slx and it’s much better when it’s on
Last 5 bikes I had sram gx nx so didn’t know about this
OMG thaank you so much i just got my new bike vitus nucleus 27 vrs and it come with that shifter. i thaught that the shifter is just bad but know i get it thank you so much and i am new to mtb too so yh
Glad it helped!
@@DadTechTV damn this video came out like 1 year ago and you still reply your a legend