Narcissistic rock bottom

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  • @heatherroberson1648
    @heatherroberson1648 3 года назад +1083

    My ex narc hit rock bottom and used me, my money, my home, my car, my sanity, my body and soul to pull himself up. Now he's making money and thinks he's all that. Thank God he is gone so I can finally heal and move on. Never underestimate how evil these people are.

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +55

      Dealing with them lets evil into our lives, we didn't need it, they could have kept it, they only care about themselves!

    • @Cat-sx6ep
      @Cat-sx6ep 3 года назад +32

      I hate them i went through the same Heather so disappointing

    • @melhawk1352
      @melhawk1352 3 года назад +12

      @GeneralCurtis3LeMay It's you tube that does it to popular videos, the creators don't have control over it. I agree - it's very annoying.

    • @todstewart1953
      @todstewart1953 3 года назад +5

      Just because you don't like your ex doesn't mean he's evil sweetheart

    • @emiliadesousa1268
      @emiliadesousa1268 3 года назад +1

      You sound like me

  • @garyweston3269
    @garyweston3269 3 года назад +617

    My narc has hit rock bottom. Karma strikes. She had three felony charges pending.. This weekend, add a fourth felony child abuse charge. Narcissists are self destructive, and outwardly destructive. They always ultimately destroy themselves. The key is to stay out of their path and let them meet their end at their own hand.

    • @josephmccarthy9341
      @josephmccarthy9341 3 года назад +61

      Proverbs 4:14 Enter not into the path of the wicked,
      and go not in the way of evil men.

    • @Bo00si33
      @Bo00si33 3 года назад +3

      Did u file those charges?

    • @fififlower100
      @fififlower100 3 года назад +11

      Very sad but true. I don't want to be there to see it. I've walked away

    • @garyweston3269
      @garyweston3269 3 года назад +33

      @@Bo00si33 my five year old daughter spoke to police as she directly told me she feared her mother and could clearly articulate multiple incidents over time with effective detail. She's a smart little girl. I filed a statement in addition to hers.
      My ex has a long and bad history. Assaulting multiple men. I have ptsd from her. A permanent eye injury from a hurled object. The three felonies for her are pending trial. Assault, kidnap, witness intimidation. I was the victim there. Now my daughter and the child abuse charge now. My narcissist is despicable, and a child abuser.
      I'm sad to say. The government failed my daughter. Ignored the abuse. Purposefully. Blatantly. Consciously. Literally knowingly ignored it. All to protect their political gender world view paradigm. I live in Massachusetts. Let's just say the social system in this state is nationally recognized as corrupt and ineffective. Social sevices was gutted less than a decade ago due to many systemic child deaths, it isn't much better now. I spoke to many lawyers social workers around the nation who concur. MA state social series is among the worst in the US. But by no means the only one this bad.
      We will be OK I think. The truth has come out. If they ignore my little girl they will blatantly be enabling child abuse and therefore an accessory.

    • @Niles-Guy
      @Niles-Guy 3 года назад +5

      When you say my narc you still imply she has control and influence over you

  • @kuljeetsingh9
    @kuljeetsingh9 Год назад +295

    Their rock bottom is when you realize what they are, and you give up. They lose all control, and they know that the jig is up.

    • @Analysis_Paralysis
      @Analysis_Paralysis Год назад

      I believe they hit rock bottom when they realize they can't control their former victims. When they realize they have lost their power over others... It's quite pathetic. I don't feel sympathy for them. They're dangerous and destructive people. Our planet is dying because of the narcissism of the people in the industrialized world. Narcissism is the root of all the problems humanity is afflicted with, including genocide and rape.
      I have zero empathy with narcissists. And I had to work hard to reach this point. I used to feel sorry for narcissists few years ago! My heart would break for them. But not anymore! Enough is enough. And that's how I know I'm healing. :)

    • @brainbomb.
      @brainbomb. Год назад

      It kills them because they have no one to suck on and step on. If they have no one to spray their venom at, their venom will heat up their heads from the inside and their heads will explode.

    • @Kat-xt5tz
      @Kat-xt5tz Год назад +10

      Yep spot on! I'm going through this now, been with the narcissist for 17 years and have a ten-year-old child. It is so messed up because I knew he was a manipulative jerk but I always thought he would be faithful. His mask slipped about 4 months ago when he cheated on me. Now he's gaslighting the hell out of me and I told him we'll just agree to disagree and both move on. I'll never believe you or trust you again and we're done! He is flipping his lid right now about to go over the edge and I actually feel bad for him it's sad to watch! 😔

    • @cali.songbird
      @cali.songbird 11 месяцев назад +9

      Is that really a rock bottom tho? They keep supply on hand 'in case', never to be lonely. So it's more of a 'tantrum' than a true rock bottom imo.

    • @tyrefryer6884
      @tyrefryer6884 3 месяца назад

      It is very sad to watch, specially when its the parent of your child that's also watching it all 😞 ​@@Kat-xt5tz

  • @ippmoeproject8502
    @ippmoeproject8502 3 года назад +532

    They just get meaner, weirder, and more grandiose. Their lies get more unbelievable and they just repel people with their neurosis.

    • @npdsurvivorsmith9962
      @npdsurvivorsmith9962 3 года назад +26

      They are vampires sucking out traits and energy instead of blood. No emotions

    • @zootownmama
      @zootownmama 3 года назад +22

      Trying to get through this right now...my narc is a mess. I'm near my wits end.

    • @ExoticalT369
      @ExoticalT369 3 года назад +1

      ...This.

    • @robertscott149
      @robertscott149 3 года назад +12

      @@zootownmama i know exactly how you feel.my narc ran off into the night blind drunk with her so called best male friend.she thinks because she is upset,and to be honest this time she has a good reason but nothing to do with anything i have done.anyway she returned with no shame or appology whatsoever but actually expects me to just take the abuse without a word.she has even tried to blame me for it.regardless to say i have had enough and am moving out yet she is still trying to control me and flies into a rage when i wont play ball with any of it.stick to your guns.this time next year it will all be over.best of luck to you.

    • @dahliarose8466
      @dahliarose8466 3 года назад +10

      They just use the true victims as Scapegoats

  • @devidaughter7782
    @devidaughter7782 3 года назад +1800

    "one of the things that enables narcissistic behavior, is the lack of consequences" (7:12). I am so grateful to all the amazing people on this channel who are 'being the change we want to see in the world' (Gandhi), by creating real consequences for the narcs in our lives! every time one of us leaves a narc, we are saying "your way of being is unacceptable and I'm no longer willing to enable it". just think: if everyone in the narc's life did this, so many more would hit 'rock bottom' which would offer so many more, a real opportunity to change!

    • @daleswain9520
      @daleswain9520 3 года назад +55

      Mine had consequences, he was arrested for shoplifting… But when he retold the story it was because of me even though they have him on video doing it. As long as the word blame shifting exist they will never be held responsible bc even with consequences it’ll still be somebody else’s crime or debt “they” are paying for poor them.

    • @garyweston3269
      @garyweston3269 3 года назад +80

      The legal system is a key perpetrator in the enablement of narcissists.. a lack of accountability is at the core of what enables their depravity.

    • @001101011010
      @001101011010 3 года назад +92

      We need to create, foster a system - legal, biomedical, mental health, political, educational - that views narcissism as a real problem and a real obstacle for healthy living. For those who are professionals and academics in these areas, and who are aware of the problems narcissists pose for society in general and individuals in particular, we need you to begin working on informing the public about this and, particularly for those in legal and political areas, we need legislation and CONSEQUENCES for narcissistic abuse.

    • @SpiritLives
      @SpiritLives 3 года назад +14

      @@001101011010 This ❤🙏🏾

    • @moniquejackson7741
      @moniquejackson7741 3 года назад +53

      @@garyweston3269 And of course the legal system has a disproportionate number of Narcissists.

  • @cherylrange7441
    @cherylrange7441 3 года назад +239

    I am leaving a covert narcissist after 45 years. Divorcing him is my freedom of choice. My family is divided, and have no friends. Now I have abandoned, and exposed him for what he truly is. Now I can heal and move on with my life!

    • @yolanderoelofse3768
      @yolanderoelofse3768 2 года назад +14

      OMG i could never wait 45 years i will die. Well done you go!!!

    • @acsdebtcollectionservices7710
      @acsdebtcollectionservices7710 2 года назад +4

      Good on you.. bet you feel peace

    • @barbaradewolf7304
      @barbaradewolf7304 2 года назад +8

      I'm 46 yrs. He is In a panic. Always got by with everything he did now sending me money etc. Not going to work for me, I'm done being used for supply.

    • @tammymedeiros7325
      @tammymedeiros7325 2 года назад +2

      WOW ... 45 YEARS 💥

    • @tijeraslack3
      @tijeraslack3 Год назад +4

      Congrats on your next step. 💯🫶🏾🙌🏾

  • @jasmin5753
    @jasmin5753 3 года назад +797

    They live at the bottom every day of their lives.. and drag everyone down there with them.

    • @tootienottoofruitie1726
      @tootienottoofruitie1726 3 года назад +20

      Yeah... bucket of crabs 🦀😓

    • @isabelleparise5607
      @isabelleparise5607 3 года назад +8

      so true

    • @jaydenpaulmartine698
      @jaydenpaulmartine698 3 года назад +21

      Yeah isn’t is terribly sad that the only way they can experience some level of happiness is to bring ppl down other people. I’d hate to be so sad that other other people’s sadness makes me happy. Sad.

    • @1010QUEEN7
      @1010QUEEN7 3 года назад +5

      Yes yes and yes

    • @kristend344
      @kristend344 3 года назад +8

      Misery loves company.

  • @billfitzpatrick8148
    @billfitzpatrick8148 3 года назад +535

    She tried to destroy me, and came close, but she ended up destroying herself.

    • @TheIslandBelle
      @TheIslandBelle 3 года назад +64

      Same experience here. He took me to hell and back and in his desire to destroy me, he really destroyed himself. He lost his job, about to lose his certification for his job, lost his apartment, and no one wants to hire him in his field due to the consequences of the physical, mental, and emotional abuse he put me through that resulted in legal action. The real him was exposed to the public. He had so many people fooled and he was so charismatic and had people drinking from his cup. No more, because I put him all the way on blast. Tell the truth and shame the devil.

    • @momocyrine
      @momocyrine 3 года назад

      Like me..

    • @marybethborylo918
      @marybethborylo918 3 года назад +19

      Mine just lost his job & apt himself . Will they ever learn ☹️💔

    • @michellemcgill9328
      @michellemcgill9328 3 года назад +1

      I see this so often

    • @odizaii1700
      @odizaii1700 3 года назад +17

      @@marybethborylo918 I don't ever think so. My narc aunt lost her job, lost her money, friends. And now she did an unforgivable mistake to our family who were the only ones that accepted her from all her mistakes in the past. They never learn, the way to peace is to avoid them.

  • @Mari-lv1rd
    @Mari-lv1rd Год назад +120

    I found myself imitating my narcissist, going for the silent treatment in minor instances because it felt normal. I watched other people discuss their conflicts, gave it much thought and pushed appropriate phases into my brain so that I would not be at a loss for words. This was my rehab, I do not allow myself to rage or be violent, I know as an adult I do not have to be a victim of my environment.

  • @bellarose6501
    @bellarose6501 3 года назад +404

    Yes, lack of consequences! Who wants to live a life tiptoeing and stepping over landminds constantly. I walked away from this situation on Friday, the inner peace that you feel not being in their presence is the greatest gift of all.

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +5

      Best of luck sugar, enjoy your new found freedom!

    • @hallettaowens6828
      @hallettaowens6828 3 года назад +4

      Yes! It will get so much better from here! A huge weight is off your shoulders! Congratulations!!!

    • @robbrewer2036
      @robbrewer2036 3 года назад +1

      Good on you enjoy the rest of your life .

    • @yobrojoost9497
      @yobrojoost9497 3 года назад +1

      @Tran Lee Narcs have a way of making you believe that you're the narc. Dr Ramani has talked about this in several of her videos. Dr Les Carter is also very good to listen to, his channel is called: Surviving Narcissism. From your comment I feel that you are most definitely not a narc! And your partner does not sound like an empath to me at all. Keep watching these videos, you'll figure it out. And then you can decide to claim your life back.

    • @N11-xr9pi1
      @N11-xr9pi1 3 года назад +2

      Yeah and it is immediately palpable once you do go.

  • @kathymagana8656
    @kathymagana8656 3 года назад +917

    I identify as a recovering narcissist and let me tell you, THIS VIDEO is SO ACCURATE. I hit my narcissistic rock bottom 3 years ago and it shook me into reality. I've been working to become a better person ever since.

    • @angelajones5407
      @angelajones5407 3 года назад +105

      Be aware that. people will find it hard to trust this change in you.

    • @angelajones5407
      @angelajones5407 3 года назад +38

      I agree. My comment was intended to inform her, not diminish her

    • @gn2665
      @gn2665 3 года назад +25

      May God be with you.

    • @jasoncheshire6153
      @jasoncheshire6153 3 года назад +7

      Are you still mean and manipulative with a huge ego.?

    • @suzanneharkin6956
      @suzanneharkin6956 3 года назад +52

      A leopard never changes it’s spots!

  • @houmankaveh1317
    @houmankaveh1317 Год назад +58

    As a self aware narcissist I think Doctor Ramani is describing every second of my relationships/situationships . These videos really helped me to stop behaviors that really hurt others. So thank you Dr you literally save my life. But I think now I need more info on how a narcissist should see the world. Its almost like we are color blind and I wanna know what color is a rose flower. Thanks again

    • @Shean_1
      @Shean_1 Год назад

    • @zippermonster9596
      @zippermonster9596 Год назад +5

      Maybe start therapy
      And don’t manipulate your therapist…
      I’ve been realizing I was married to a narc
      I have Narc tendencies that EXPLODED when we got together
      It was unnerving how a person I barely knew and got deeply entangled with (we made babies)
      Could trigger something in me that was so vile and full of hate.
      It’s like I was possessed
      I learned about mirroring
      Learned to stop doing that shit
      While his Narc was adopted through cptsd
      Mine was just young girl stupid issues that got on steroids as a reaction to his issues
      to learn what a narc was 16 years into a marriage blew me away.
      We trauma bonded and decided to fucking waste 16 years of our kids life fighting
      It taught me many hard lessons and I have had to work through guilt and shame for not stepping up quicker and getting away from him.
      So
      For your sake
      Don’t do this alone
      I was isolated by him and only started to see the light
      When we were separated
      AND I had completely quit drinking
      I see a therapist and openly talk about issues people have with me so I can never ever repeat that ever to anybody
      My husband almost killed me
      Through me committing suicide
      Because I wanted his manipulation to just stop.
      Don’t do that to anybody

  • @LyndieLouWho
    @LyndieLouWho 3 года назад +646

    Narcissists crave that feeling of power over the defenseless. They have zero empathy for the suffering they cause you.
    You will never have a mutually loving and giving relationship with a narcissist.

    • @todstewart1953
      @todstewart1953 3 года назад +13

      This comment is fucked up.
      Don't just assume people are narcissist and therefore beyond help.
      Also people who are narcissistic don't always "crave power over the defenseless" lmao, why don't you lighten up.
      Anytime people talk about how evil people are that belong to a certain group, they're usually wrong.

    • @TimTheEnchanter0
      @TimTheEnchanter0 3 года назад +14

      Yup, confronting my father over his abuse got insincere apologies (no attempts to rectify), justification, blame, victimization etc

    • @evilmustdie6170
      @evilmustdie6170 3 года назад +27

      Yes they love abusing people and covering their tracks

    • @kamka8149
      @kamka8149 3 года назад +7

      Exactly!!!

    • @LemonSte
      @LemonSte 3 года назад +8

      You need to specify narcissistic ABUSERS.
      I am a narcissist - recovering, have had my rock bottom - but I have never abused anyone. I myself have been abused by many people, including narcissisic abusers. I've been many things - selfish, callous, even downright rude or mean - but never have I taken pleasure in kicking someone when they were down or hurting the more vulnerable. At my worst I felt either defensive of the vulnerable or quietly disgusted by them, depending on how much they displayed traits I disliked about myself. I never felt the desire to hurt them. If anything it was people in authority who mistreated people I tended to direct my narc traits at - I loathe authority and injustice.

  • @suzannemorrow9987
    @suzannemorrow9987 3 года назад +89

    I am done” fixing “all of their lives.
    It’s my life ! Time to live it . Good People ,I love you .

    • @suzannemorrow9987
      @suzannemorrow9987 3 года назад +1

      Thank you and you have my energy, those that get what I do!! Live your life ♥️

    • @laurelletieman4943
      @laurelletieman4943 10 месяцев назад +1

      I could like this 1000X!

    • @cowboynohorse
      @cowboynohorse 5 месяцев назад

      On behalf of the good people, We love you too.

  • @hellenoftroy3878
    @hellenoftroy3878 2 года назад +25

    She has such a soothing voice. And, she is such a knowledgeable person about NPD.

  • @nicolemarie151
    @nicolemarie151 3 года назад +453

    I've never heard it put that way;
    "Narcissists are disgusted by their own vilnerability."

    • @Startupsandsushi
      @Startupsandsushi 2 года назад +5

      My father and Ex to a T

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 2 года назад +22

      I have. They go to great lengths to "one-up" anyone they perceive as more intelligent than themselves. For example, I was a victim of a terrible narcissist who was a so-called older "friend" of my daughter's. This person would try using vocabulary outside of the typical vocabulary she usually used to try to impress me (I realized this later). However, she used those words incorrectly. Also, if she was ever told that something she said or did was wrong, she'd fly into a rage! She was literally an adult throwing a tantrum like a toddler! She didn't want her vulnerabilities pointed out to her.

    • @scootermom1791
      @scootermom1791 2 года назад +1

      @@loanicastillo3327 so true!

    • @leahlilly4916
      @leahlilly4916 Год назад +8

      Mine likes to seem vulnerable on his own terms. Like tearing up at a TV and making sure I see how sensitive he is.

    • @ciaomamabella
      @ciaomamabella Год назад +2

      @@leahlilly4916 this is a really quite interesting take that I don’t think I’ve ever heard from a narc victim. What bothers you so much about them crying? How does their vulnerability hurt you? I think that should be your next question for your OWN self. “Why does my husband crying at a movie, bother me, so much so that I make a comment on yt about it.”
      This sounds like a you problem that you should figure out.

  • @dagobertkrikelin1587
    @dagobertkrikelin1587 3 года назад +896

    The big problem is that victims of narcissists don't hit rock bottom quickly enough, so that they can stop being abused.

    • @garyweston3269
      @garyweston3269 3 года назад +126

      I can personally attest that this statement is one of the top reasons out there. I myself went through it. I resisted hitting rock bottom so hard, that it led to diagnosed Ptsd, and a battle through cognitive dissonance with a PhD therapist. My own issues with boundaries and my drive to "do good" despite someone smashing me repeatedly led to this. Teach your kids boundaries. Teach them self respect. Teach them to never compromise themselves for anyone else.

    • @DMCdantenero112
      @DMCdantenero112 3 года назад +71

      Hitting rock bottom finally gave me the push to leave. Now I regret not leaving sooner.

    • @NetiNeti-gm5bz
      @NetiNeti-gm5bz 3 года назад +30

      Because people are innately resilient and powerful. Which is a good thing if your parents (as you can't choose your parents) are both sociopaths

    • @joannakerr6231
      @joannakerr6231 3 года назад +3

      I agree

    • @birdgirl8390
      @birdgirl8390 3 года назад +32

      Yes, I was too used to narcissistic abuse from my parents, to see what was going on. Hitting my rock bottom wasn't nice, but in hindsight it felt like burning alive and rising from my ashes.

  • @cathleenmace5316
    @cathleenmace5316 3 года назад +30

    As an elementary educator of 32 years and a person involved 18 years with a covert narcissist, all of this makes me very sad. Children are being raised in such a stressful society and challenging environments. I believe that all of this is just so unfair to them , since many of them will inevitably grow to lack empathy and will struggle with a life as a narcissist.. So very disheartening.

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 Год назад

      The kids is who I worry about also just retired from
      Children services 😮😮😮😮😢😢😢😢mental hospitals 😮

  • @sagittariusque8932
    @sagittariusque8932 3 года назад +168

    A person who has nothing to lose can be a dangerous person.

    • @geertruivanbroekhoven7209
      @geertruivanbroekhoven7209 3 года назад +12

      A person who has a lot to loose also ...

    • @sagittariusque8932
      @sagittariusque8932 3 года назад +6

      @@geertruivanbroekhoven7209 Definitely true as well

    • @icalotdonthide2646
      @icalotdonthide2646 3 года назад +11

      Play stupid mind games and win death prizes. Narcissist may not be wrapped too tight, but neither are people who are sick of their shit.

    • @lindaschultz7900
      @lindaschultz7900 3 года назад +1

      I agree!! Scary!

    • @tobikanawa
      @tobikanawa 4 месяца назад

      A person without much to gain or lose can be dangerous too​@@geertruivanbroekhoven7209

  • @nicolii7321
    @nicolii7321 3 года назад +583

    When the narcissist hits rock bottom they quickly get out of their situation and meet a new group of ppl and abuse all over again. They cant change.

    • @harpert579
      @harpert579 3 года назад +8

      Well....the Dr just said they can change so perhaps you're wishful thinking.

    • @krisscanlon4051
      @krisscanlon4051 3 года назад +6

      They literally crowd surf/jump...you can become a psychological private detective if so desire and watch as they gain more influence and leave a outre good story but rot underneath...generally found in the helping fields they have this guise to keep up the front. Watch they are very slick. I agree with you completely. I think anyone can change its desire that is the issue.

    • @Temporalplace
      @Temporalplace 3 года назад +15

      I think they can, cuz i did and still trying to do better. Actually im not sure if i was or am narc, some things she describes stick to me, but not everything. I did never abuse others money or cheat, but i was narc on mouth. Liked to make a jokes and caught attention and validation, but i never cheated or abused anyone, at least not financially.Also i never tried to harm anybody at work to get somebody fired, i always felt its not right, but i think i still was narc because did not care much about others problems etc. Religion did help me alot, im trying to get validation from God instead of people, but even now im worried that i write a comment to get attention, now im doubting in any actions i make.

    • @hollyp9811
      @hollyp9811 3 года назад +28

      I tend to agree. I think they find new places to prey on, like the church. They find lots of sympathy and feed off the empathy and praise they get from others in churches. They look like they hit rock bottom and they’ve changed, but really they’re just continuing their control, superficiality, and abuse in a new setting.

    • @Lambchop2701
      @Lambchop2701 3 года назад +23

      My ex narc hit rock bottom when I found out about all the affairs/prostitutes and seedy hidden ‘other life’, and told him I’d had enough and was leaving. We had a lovely lifestyle on the surface mainly due to my efforts and job, a Lovely house in a lovely neighbourhood, new cars, fabulous neighbours, friends and admiring family’s. He successfully hid his sleazy other life from everyone including me due to the nature of his job. Once I found out and blew it all wide open, he imploded. He attempted suicide but it failed. He spent a spell in hospital. After that his lovely house was sold, he had to downgrade his car, the neighbours pitied him, friends and family started to shun him. He had no choice but to flee and start over. He up’ed and moved to a completely new country on the other side of the world. He now lives in a place renowned for its beautiful prostitutes and sleazy red light districts. As the saying goes, in the land of the blind, the one eyed man is king. He could never change, he wouldn’t want to. He wouldn’t want to do the work. He would never want to look inside because he knows what’s in there. It’s much easier to flee and start over if caught.

  • @fredjones554
    @fredjones554 3 года назад +526

    A warm feeling comes over me when I hear about a narcissist suffering

    • @rohithreddy75
      @rohithreddy75 3 года назад +17

      Same

    • @Max_G43
      @Max_G43 3 года назад +43

      Oh how the turns tables

    • @lostinthecosmos6095
      @lostinthecosmos6095 3 года назад +11

      @@Max_G43 love the office reference

    • @LaGranTerca
      @LaGranTerca 3 года назад +19

      @@Max_G43 Oh ,they will always turn… & when they turn they turn ! KARMA is real🙏🏽

    • @6tatev
      @6tatev 3 года назад +2

      same!

  • @Nitya-r86
    @Nitya-r86 3 года назад +389

    Today is one of the bad days when I have a really nasty headache because of the exploitative narcissists in my life. I fail to understand how they are able to sleep a sound sleep after hurting others. The level of moral decay is mind-boggling.

    • @youtubechannel8276
      @youtubechannel8276 3 года назад +36

      They often don't sleep very well even if they say they do because they are so troubled.

    • @elizag8353
      @elizag8353 3 года назад +17

      Try gray rock method this method help me to shut up my narc mouth. And also take care yourself. Bless you

    • @Hundredacredaycare
      @Hundredacredaycare 3 года назад +22

      It’s because they love and enjoy what they do

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +31

      They sleep, their mission accomplished, sick accomplished sociopaths!

    • @shoopydoopy9388
      @shoopydoopy9388 3 года назад +10

      Bad days come and go... And this too shall pass. Hang in there ❤️

  • @einsteindarwin8756
    @einsteindarwin8756 3 года назад +181

    I love that you are calling these people out without using names.

    • @dougarnold7955
      @dougarnold7955 3 года назад +3

      ...it"d be easier if she used names! 😁👍

    • @SherrysReviewsandResearch
      @SherrysReviewsandResearch 3 года назад +7

      I think she should call it out. Problem is, shes in a highly paid position and works among some of the biggest heavy hitting sleazy pseudoscience executioners of non consensual research on the human brain type of narcs. (Not all, but some) She ain't crazy or brave enough to call them out by name. Shes gotta do it kinda low key. She knows her limitations.

    • @annado3885
      @annado3885 3 года назад +1

      She's awesome

    • @christopher.m.dickinson0315
      @christopher.m.dickinson0315 3 года назад +3

      Yep it's a complete change in personality or Consciousness or if you like rebirth. I just had a strange though what if all religious texts were ways to get rid of narcissism personally. They can be demons LOL got to think way Outside the Lines

    • @walkitoff.
      @walkitoff. 3 года назад +1

      @@christopher.m.dickinson0315 problem with that is you have to ignore all of "gods" horribly narcissistic traits...

  • @cartwrightworm1317
    @cartwrightworm1317 3 года назад +78

    My ex-wife insisted that she could change when I said I was leaving. She said I was too pessimistic and needed forgive and let go of things she said. Maybe she could have changed but I really don’t think so. It would have taken a major, constant effort on her part. She hated going to marriage counseling, admitted that she dreaded it. Always remember how they act.

  • @Eg-jd9zt
    @Eg-jd9zt 3 года назад +337

    Most narcissists I’ve met are addicts, to work, the gym, drinking, or even sex. They are addicts at heart hence their need for supply

    • @immaculatedocnato2054
      @immaculatedocnato2054 3 года назад +15

      He works throughout. No vacation, no off days, no birthday presents or celebration. Boring spouse of 19 years.

    • @saraheaton1410
      @saraheaton1410 3 года назад +16

      Or drugs

    • @kdavis4910
      @kdavis4910 3 года назад +12

      @@immaculatedocnato2054 the narc from my past didn't observe any special occasions either. It's one major red flag that they do not care at all. And he wouldn't find and couldn't keep jobs. Trying to get him to find work and stay there was like pulling teeth with no novacain. Never again. Not ever. Falling on hard times is one thing, but it's all together different when it's always hard times if you know what I'm saying. People need to grow and progress. If they don't they have stunted and it's not a good thing. I am always learning new things and developing new skills. Stagnation leads to decay.

    • @immaculatedocnato2054
      @immaculatedocnato2054 3 года назад +6

      @@kdavis4910 I never knew such people existed. I can now write a book of 600 pages on Narcissism. Gosh!

    • @sterling1386
      @sterling1386 3 года назад +8

      Sex/alcohol addiction. Porn, phone sex..he'll find a new supply, it's easy.

  • @80islandia
    @80islandia 3 года назад +301

    Great video. I’ve hit rock bottom and it is a scary and humiliating place to be. Sending strength to anyone who sincerely wants to make changes in their life.

    • @jozzz222
      @jozzz222 3 года назад +5

      Not humiliating at all

    • @velvetindigonight
      @velvetindigonight 3 года назад +8

      Bless you for 'seeing the Light'................. It's still a beautiful world and you can still make a difference for what matters.................... We've all been the 'torturer and the tortured' from a reincarnational perspective.....................
      Good Luck

    • @leypon
      @leypon 3 года назад +2

      What was it that made you want to change? And what would you recommend for someone that needs help and therapy.

    • @80islandia
      @80islandia 3 года назад +25

      @@leypon My rock bottom was having a psychotic break that involved persecutory delusions. I was terrified and committed to a psychiatric ward for two months. The root causes were extreme lack of self worth and fear of abandonment.
      To anyone wanting to make a change I would recommend first seeing the truth of your own powerlessness and recognizing what you can and can’t control. The Serenity Prayer from AA is helpful here. Secondly, be emotionally honest with yourself about what you’re actually feeling, rather than what society tells you you should be feeling. Third, get in touch with the core wounds and root causes that are making you feel this way (we’ve all got them). Fourth, find a trusted professional who can bear witness to what you’re feeling and experiencing without judgment and can help you find your North Star so that you can begin to pave a new path. Fifth, give yourself the time and grace to make changes, make mistakes, and course correct as needed. 💙🌿

    • @saraa6040
      @saraa6040 3 года назад +1

      Sincere thanks to you for sharing this.
      How brave of you
      Your comments will truly help others

  • @pwhite5411
    @pwhite5411 Год назад +31

    I have to agree that “ seeking validation” is the narcs addiction. When we were young our mother would “run the roads” visiting people in the community to have coffee and gossip. I’ve watched this pattern for 60 years and when my Dad passed away she managed to collect a few ladies to meet for coffee for 1 hour a day. She told me how much she needed those coffee ladies. I knew that her need was positive validation and that she could only hold herself together for that short 1 hour. She has always needed to hold court in a small group for a short visit. Yet behind closed doors, we were her punching bags.

  • @cymbolichuman433
    @cymbolichuman433 3 года назад +2064

    They're never sorry, satisfied, or happy. Bottom line. And it ain't their fault.

    • @lukaszkoziol8302
      @lukaszkoziol8302 3 года назад +174

      _And it ain't their fault_ - and this part is the hardest to feel and understand

    • @therabbithat
      @therabbithat 3 года назад +172

      @@ceciliarm2078 npd is a maladaptive coping mechanism adopted by abused or neglected children. Doesn't mean we don't have the right to keep ourselves safe

    • @anid828
      @anid828 3 года назад +110

      Mine 5 minutes ago called me stupid and that I need to grow up” I said” I’m sorry” sarcastically and he said “yes you are sorry”. He’s 51 and homeless meanwhile I have a house a son a job I go to medical school. And he lived here for free for 2 years.

    • @anid828
      @anid828 3 года назад +38

      @@lukaszkoziol8302 of course not silly. It’s our fault!! 🤣

    • @anid828
      @anid828 3 года назад +18

      @@lukaszkoziol8302 IT IS NOT YOUR FAULT!!!

  • @hamishgilmour1352
    @hamishgilmour1352 3 года назад +221

    67 narcissistics disliked this video... Dr. Ramani you are amazing ❤️ keep doing what you do 👌

    • @ellerythe8th
      @ellerythe8th Год назад +7

      😂😂😂😂 lololol 😂 satisfied to think of that tantrum moment.

    • @nasreenbari2765
      @nasreenbari2765 Год назад +2

      disliking a video doesn’t necessarily make an individual a narcissist

    • @derekhugh
      @derekhugh Год назад +2

      @@nasreenbari2765 Wanna bet?

    • @erikawithee
      @erikawithee Год назад +1

      There having adult tantrums I am sure 😂

    • @erikawithee
      @erikawithee Год назад

      @@derekhugh agreed ❤👍

  • @NikeeStarStuff
    @NikeeStarStuff 3 года назад +219

    Girl I love you. This was me. I was a drug and alcohol counselor. I grew up as the scape goat. However having to learn to survive with a covert narcissist. When I started to figure this out, I shaved my head and didn't wear make-up for 2 years. I finally got real. What I found was myself. I had to lose everything to get aligned. Now I take my psychological back ground and teach narcissistic abuse combined with addiction. You are SO INVALUABLE to all of us who needed to heal. I did this work on my own but your conformation gave me SO MUCH COMFORT!
    just love you!
    🙏🙏🙏

    • @johnpaulsawan1990
      @johnpaulsawan1990 2 года назад +9

      I can relate to this as the scape goat. I found myself shaving my head too every so may years around the covert mother I had.

    • @kathiejl1
      @kathiejl1 2 года назад +3

      Congratulations!

    • @renzlo9747
      @renzlo9747 2 года назад +4

      You warrior! Thank you for your work

    • @NikeeStarStuff
      @NikeeStarStuff 2 года назад +7

      @@renzlo9747 You do not know how much I needed to hear that today. 😭 Thank you! 🙏🙏🙏

    • @produkcija-Igor
      @produkcija-Igor Год назад

      @@InHerVision you probably won't get a reply from the narcissist. His supply was filled by writing a ''loving comment '' not forgetting to add that only some people ''need'' to heal. :)

  • @Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers
    @Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 3 года назад +312

    I have never seen one improve when they get old. Just way more covert

    • @joywebster2678
      @joywebster2678 3 года назад +26

      More lies than before.

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +20

      Mom's ageing and out right insane behaviour, this time totally towards me is how I was able to make sense of her long life of insanity "Maglinant narcissism", a total menace and head of our family which she destroyed!

    • @kimsmith819
      @kimsmith819 3 года назад +3

      Thank you, i really truly appreciate your comment ❤

    • @Eff_It
      @Eff_It 3 года назад +7

      I think they get more overt.

    • @Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers
      @Expose_bankers_and_auctioneers 3 года назад +9

      @@Eff_It depends who's around!

  • @drweche3153
    @drweche3153 3 года назад +178

    I honestly thought my narc had hit rock bottom at the beginning of last year 2020. The alleged remorse, weeping, asking for forgiveness, etc.
    At the time I did not even know what narcissm is.
    It's only later I found this was all a hoovering act!
    And I fell for it.
    Wasted another year until drastically, dramatically discarded.
    THEN I got to find out what narcissm is.
    Been 4 months of no contact!
    Thank you Dr. Ramani!

    • @todstewart1953
      @todstewart1953 3 года назад +1

      I'm curious, specifically, what was it that made you realize this person's remorse was a "hoovering act"?

    • @travisstoll3582
      @travisstoll3582 3 года назад

      Congratulations on your new life!

    • @expandhealthinc.1887
      @expandhealthinc.1887 3 года назад

      Good job.

    • @mrs.camillewarrenempress3115
      @mrs.camillewarrenempress3115 3 года назад

      Me too

    • @ellafox9803
      @ellafox9803 3 года назад +1

      My narcissist never did displays of remorse. I came back of my own accord, wishing I could stop loving him, as he treated me like an afterthought. I know everything that he does and yet I can't seem to let go of the dream it seemed like at first, and all the shared plans we had. I want signs of remorse from him, but I know I will never get them. I gave everything to be with him (moved to a new continent, got to know his daughter, learned a new language, integrated into the society, handled his ex wife, handled his trauma and abuse) - and it still wasn't enough.

  • @heartpoint5289
    @heartpoint5289 3 года назад +76

    I saw a narcissist I was involved with hit rock bottom. I saw him become aware of how his fears and insecurity ran his life and created self-sabotage. I saw him trying to practice self-love, instead of self-hatred when he made a mistake. I saw him becoming aware of all the people he had hurt. I saw him even able to laugh at how silly it was that he blamed others, “bad luck” and the world, for his self-induced misery.
    And then, after about 6 months, he relapsed.
    This video has helped me make sense of what I saw. I didn’t see the typical short-lasting period of “good behavior”, “love bombing” etc. I saw him admit fear of vulnerability and honesty and then attempt it, and be amazed that nothing bad happened to him. I saw him increase his tolerance for being able to regulate himself when remembering childhood abuse. I saw him apologizing and taking accountability moments or hours after he had been hurtful, rather than weeks of invalidating and gaslighting after being asked for accountability.
    I have been close to other Narcissistic people and I had not seen this.
    But under stress - the stress of actually seeing good things happening as a result of his changes, the fear that he would “ruin” it, the shame of not fully “deserving it”, and the increased responsibility that came with actually following through on things- caused a relapse.
    It was very much the same as the disappointment and grief of seeing an addict you love hit rock bottom, wake up, decide on their own to change, and then suddenly relapse.
    And like with addiction and relapse, he also didn’t think he needed as much support as he actually did. He thought he could do the majority of it on his own.
    I also wonder what could help Narcissists stay in recovery? I do think the 12 steps could be a powerful model, but with changes to the model for these specific people.
    However, I’m not going to dwell to much on that, as I am tending to my own grief and healing process.

    • @oscarwilliamson6163
      @oscarwilliamson6163 2 года назад +2

      Heart point,You don't need a narcissist in your life......

    • @the_blue_lotus_portal
      @the_blue_lotus_portal 2 года назад +3

      I have had this same experience, with someone I love very deeply who wound up in prison. It was astounding how much he healed and grew, but then relapsed at the first taste of freedom. I am still unsure how this story will end.

    • @kathiejl1
      @kathiejl1 2 года назад +3

      That was beautifully written! It is so heart wrenching to see a relapse no matter what it is from.
      And as you said, I’ve spent enough years crying for something I now know I was never going to get and never had in the first place and that is a significant other that loved me with empathy in his heart. ❤😢

    • @AAXS-op1vo
      @AAXS-op1vo Год назад

      As I read all the improvements you were listing, my brain just kept saying “when is the relapse coming?” Because it almost ALWAYS does.
      As I tell folks, Narcs do not evolve, they REVOLVE. They, at best, will CYCLE in and out of that bad behavior and life style. TRUST ME, those revolutions can take YEARS to complete a cycle.

    • @sarahs6136
      @sarahs6136 Год назад +5

      This sounds like bpd

  • @edgreen8140
    @edgreen8140 3 года назад +190

    Paranoia is the cornerstone of narcissism.

    • @geertruivanbroekhoven7209
      @geertruivanbroekhoven7209 3 года назад +4

      Why ? I have a friend who sometimes becomes a bit paranoid, but she is not a narcissist. I know more then one narcissist but none of them is paranoid. So what do you mean by this ?

    • @edgreen8140
      @edgreen8140 3 года назад +1

      @@localyokel83 abuse survivers can reduce any paranoia w a decent therapist.

    • @vacationeyes6430
      @vacationeyes6430 3 года назад +15

      The victims of Narcissistic abuse can be paranoid too.

    • @lindabermudez-hafer5440
      @lindabermudez-hafer5440 3 года назад +12

      @@vacationeyes6430 My observation is survivors of narcissistic abuse have had to be “paranoid” during the time they lived with their abusers because they never knew when the next onslaught was coming! It was a survival tactic! Think about that!

    • @vacationeyes6430
      @vacationeyes6430 3 года назад +7

      @@lindabermudez-hafer5440 Sorry I misunderstood your original statement. I thought you were pointing to the fact that Narcissists are paranoid themselves. They should be. They lie all the time and they have to be worried someone will find out.

  • @Garycooperthestrongsilenttype
    @Garycooperthestrongsilenttype 3 года назад +420

    My father was one, died alone in his office, burned every bridge there was to burn. My mom is one too, lives in solitude with my grandmother struggling with the fact she is losing her looks, my current ex gf is obsessed with trying to find a rich man (older, way older man) and constantly gets burnt. Both she and my mom have a alcohol problem although my mom is sober now the behavior stays the same. Extreme behavior, temporary reward, crash and burn, depression, rinse repeat. Eternal agony. Wouldn’t want to walk in their shoes. No amount of money or validation is worth your soul.

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +15

      Aren't you wise!

    • @anid828
      @anid828 3 года назад +37

      My mother is one and the rest of my family are flying monkeys. And she just told me that she hopes I make her proud before she dies. Bitch. I have a 17 year old son that I raised alone and he’s awesome. I’m a nurse and going to school finishing my bachelors and start my masters in April Like wtf

    • @jaketheghost
      @jaketheghost 3 года назад +18

      Current ex-girlfriend. I get it but the relief you feel when they become your past ex-girlfriend. Aka not your problem anymore. Nothing better. You got this my man.

    • @DB742
      @DB742 3 года назад +12

      So true. Mine was an cyclical alcoholic and gambling fiend that was draining my finances and energy. Kicked her out after over a yr of random drama few months ago. Just called and told me she got a DUI and wrecked her car while driving w/out insurance. She's staying w/ her enabler/savior ex before me now who always band-aided her bullshit misdeeds financially. Now she's his problem and I count myself lucky to be the hell out of her life.

    • @npc4598
      @npc4598 3 года назад +9

      Narks make a decision when they're young 11-12 years old they make a decision and go off the rails past the point of no return in their mind Sign a contract with the devil and they lose their soul.... Then they become bitter and it's like a drug to them They definitely Have a turning point.

  • @richardoliver8174
    @richardoliver8174 2 года назад +56

    I am narcissistic and “dated” a narcissist for 13 years, lost a very lucrative career, became alcohol dependent, lost interest in all my hobbies, and suffered until I found this channel and another channel on autism. I have a narcissistic family, friends, and coworkers, but as a recovering narcissist, I have empathy for them. I know I can’t save them, or guide them to/suggest this channel but I can/do politely point out how we can both be more empathetic when the opportunity presents itself.
    I think because of my autism, the career choices I made, and pure luck I made choices that have set me up to be able to choose almost any path I want now. It’s lonely, but I have the tools to deal with all of my emotions now and I know I don’t need to hide them anymore, even the unpleasant ones.
    Good luck everyone, and keep improving.

    • @hobolove2468
      @hobolove2468 2 года назад +3

      Thank you for telling us❤️‍🔥🙏🏼 proud of you and Jesus is too

    • @prietagarcia1155
      @prietagarcia1155 Год назад +2

      When you realized that you are narcissistic? Are you high on the spectrum? How long you been in recovery? Do you feel love for someone?

    • @ShadowJerker-st3lj
      @ShadowJerker-st3lj Год назад

      Wow, it’s like you just described my life.

  • @ellieramseyer2291
    @ellieramseyer2291 3 года назад +75

    Indeed, it is a very rare occurrence to witness universal karma paying back the narc. And, despite all the emotional damage they have caused, it is not pleasurable to see them suffer.

    • @raynebow5289
      @raynebow5289 3 года назад +7

      This!
      I remember writing in an old diary "And as I observe the ways karma ravages the people who hurt me the most, I ask myself: Why am I not pleased?"
      It was such a profound discovery because I was finally able to accept and let go of any notion that I was the source of their problems, but was doomed to watch them slowly destroy themselves with their actions. I know it is not my fault, but it feels so slimy to just be on the sideline. I even tried to enjoy the show, but it was much too graphic.

  • @magda6314
    @magda6314 3 года назад +311

    I am pretty sure, that when person with narcississtic personality disorder hits rock bottom - they don't change and become better person. People with narcissistic personality disorder have strong and enduring patterns of avoiding resoponsibility for their actions. Without admitting responsibility - true change is impossible. Maybe they shift their mask for more adaptable, maybe they transform from overt to covert or vice versa, but they don't change internally. That is the tragedy of this personality disorder. With people with some narcissistic traits - some self-reflection and change is possible, especially when they are in their early twenties and they have long lasting positive influences from their important people and negative consequences of their bad behaviours.

    • @todstewart1953
      @todstewart1953 3 года назад +4

      Why do you think this? Do you maybe have an example of a narcissist you know who hit rock bottom and "didn't change"?

    • @skylaralexis7699
      @skylaralexis7699 3 года назад +36

      Yup, this! They don’t ever really change much. At most, they may learn to adapt how they express their sadism and malignancy so that they’re less likely to get caught out. Not to mention that all cluster b types are always on the lookout for people that they KNOW will tolerate a lot of shit from them. I’ve been better at holding my boundaries now and calling people out for what they are and I’ve noticed that the red flag type people will try to see how much they can gaslight and manipulate me to disbelieve my own instinct about them, and once they realise they can’t at all, they just leave to look for people that they CAN con. They’re just predators with no respect, grace or dignity or morals. That never changes

    • @maridiyaibrahim8210
      @maridiyaibrahim8210 3 года назад +22

      They never change, they only look for people they can manipulate

    • @kimsmith819
      @kimsmith819 3 года назад +8

      I believe, and this is from my own experience, they get worse as they age. Mine loves himself to death and would never harm himself

    • @Miss-320
      @Miss-320 3 года назад +3

      @@skylaralexis7699 so well said!

  • @elainesmith5313
    @elainesmith5313 2 года назад +18

    It has now been 9 mths since the Narcissist died . I have done as you have said Dr. R. The Deep Dive. Digging into the past and surfacingy the disappointment, heart break over and over, love bombing, discards , ect.
    Making list of all the horable ways he treated me.....was painful but.....reality faced and gas lighting myself has stopped . Tears of sadness fall infrequently now. But Freedom has come. Thank you Dr. R. Your help has been invaluable . God Bless!!

    • @cb9825
      @cb9825 Год назад

      Was your narc a spouse or a parent?

    • @JacK-qn4zh
      @JacK-qn4zh Год назад +1

      Mine died too leaving me to figure out.... why? I have been lost since! Been 5 years now learning all I can. I have peace now but... as to all the questions I still have...He took all answers to his grave. I'm still sorta lost finding me again. I've changed so much from the person I was.

  • @Estherbethe1...
    @Estherbethe1... 3 года назад +290

    Lonely, angry, and resentful is exactly how I have ended up because of a life of narcissist relationships. I was a truth tellers as a child and still can see even now when something is "off", but only recently did I learn what narcissist really is. At least it's good to finally have an explanation for what I always knew was wrong I just didn't know what exactly.

    • @MegDD3912
      @MegDD3912 3 года назад +7

      Same

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +9

      We're very fortunate for Dr. Ramani!

    • @WhatTheHellRachelle
      @WhatTheHellRachelle 3 года назад +18

      I understand you, but I refuse to be resentful. It’s hard sometimes but I’ve seen what bitterness and resentment do to people. I’m moving on and claiming my joy!

    • @MrChrisRP
      @MrChrisRP 3 года назад +8

      Why did you give up telling truth? I am a truth teller in every statement I ever make to this day and will be until I die.

    • @wms72
      @wms72 3 года назад +8

      Same. We victims of narcissistic abuse should start a social club.

  • @kathydean2609
    @kathydean2609 3 года назад +255

    Wow. I think, maybe, my ex-husband is close to rock bottom. I left him about 10 months ago. He panicked and seems to be in a downward spiral..he took an overdose of pills three days after our first divorce court appearance. His poor daughter found him. He has voluntarily entered the psych ward, and has been there for a month. His family feels that he is hiding from the mess that his business and his life have become. It’s a good place to avoid all his responsibilities. To face the consequences of his actions without someone to take the blame is not something he is used to. But, I don’t know. It could be part of a scheme, narcissists are good a pulling rabbits out of hats, and he is very good at it. I’ve not communicated with him for many months, and I’m not going to start now. I’m so glad to be out. It’s kind of amazing that I did.

    • @heatherroberson1648
      @heatherroberson1648 3 года назад +23

      Congratulations! That could not have been easy. You are very strong.

    • @moniquejackson7741
      @moniquejackson7741 3 года назад +15

      Your strength, courage, self-love, and insight just made my day! Thanks so much for posting.

    • @Mel.H_
      @Mel.H_ 3 года назад +4

      Congratulations!

    • @env0x
      @env0x 3 года назад +11

      I dont know the full story here but theres no evidence I see in this that doesnt make you the narcissist and them the victim. Can you elaborate your point a bit please?

    • @Thang4321
      @Thang4321 3 года назад +8

      @@env0x from the story, he doesnot sound like a narcissist. A really narcissist after 10 months of divorce should be having photos of new supply everywhere on Facebook, they would not be breaking down and having pills etc.
      the real victim at the month of 10th would still be missing the narcissist and living with trauma bond. You don’t heal and feel amazing so soon after that break-up as victim would be dealing with post trauma distress.

  • @ct2co2AZ
    @ct2co2AZ Год назад +22

    I am healing from an narcissistic relationship and omg the part on the ageing….so true. My ex was 14 years older than me and when he decided to discard me he called me “ancient” behind my back. I couldn’t help to laugh.

  • @davidg.6398
    @davidg.6398 3 года назад +65

    I keep waiting for one of the networks to pick this up as a daily show! Dr. R. makes Dr. Phil look like Jerry Springer! She is so helpful, intelligent, clear, and understanding (not forgetting empathic!)

    • @nullinvoid1415
      @nullinvoid1415 3 года назад +3

      she doesn't coddle or.make excuses for narcissism like.Phil does so mainstream wouldn't like her.

  • @genevalawrence801
    @genevalawrence801 3 года назад +118

    Narcissistic vulnerability can also show itself as coercive control of those closest to them. The more out-of-control and threatened by exposure the narcissist feels, the more some narcissists will try to claim power by exerting control over others, whom they also fear will expose them. It's an ugly, dangerous dynamic.

    • @clintonnagy1662
      @clintonnagy1662 6 месяцев назад +1

      That's interesting. I've experienced the control on numerous occasions with my ex lover. It was subtle at first, but enough to make me annoyed and lash out. I see our behaviors are wrong. The relationship ended on a sour note. I regret my reactions. I should of had better self control. She blames me for ruining the relationship. In some ways...I believe she is correct.

  • @dnwitte
    @dnwitte 2 года назад +89

    I went bullet-proof no contact on my narc ten years ago. I was the last person here in Boston who would have anything to do with him---he had immolated every single relationship he ever had since coming here for college in 1978. Not long after I cut him off he moved to Seattle. I heard recently that he had died. The comment threads on social media are absolutely off the charts with what a wonderful person he was---generous, funny, always kind, a true friend, such a loss of a stupendously wonderful person, and I'm thinking WHAT? The guy was a freaking monster of rage and abuse who very nearly destroyed me and who left me with deep and lasting scars, how on earth did he fool so many people? Is it possible that he hit his bottom when he realized he was completely alone here, and found the insight to re-create himself in another city?

    • @kristinming6163
      @kristinming6163 2 года назад +24

      they fool most sadly

    • @SunshineAndStarrs
      @SunshineAndStarrs 2 года назад +25

      That’s exactly what they do and it’s their dream come true. A fresh start and a whole new story to tell all new people. He’s learned from his mistakes he’s made and he honed in on perfecting his manipulative behavior. Just deplorable.

    • @tammyfitzgerald5336
      @tammyfitzgerald5336 Год назад +5

      Fake for him 😂

    • @rosethorne9155
      @rosethorne9155 Год назад +40

      For every three people saying nice things about deceased narcissistic people, there are probably six more with horror stories about abuse and mistreatment at the narcs' hands. But people never want to "speak ill of the dead".
      When they were a toxic, abusive person, telling the details about them isn't badmouthing them, it's just telling the truth.
      I wish people could see that.

    • @AAXS-op1vo
      @AAXS-op1vo Год назад +3

      Short answer: yes

  • @edibeedee
    @edibeedee 3 года назад +165

    It is so ironic that they bring on their narcissistic anxiety themselves with their thought patterns that causes their own suffering!

    • @knightbrucie
      @knightbrucie 3 года назад +10

      Yeah they're their own worst enemy

    • @theenchantedforester4661
      @theenchantedforester4661 3 года назад +2

      @@knightbrucie actually honey. All humans are their own worst enemy

    • @Sarablueunicorn
      @Sarablueunicorn 3 года назад +4

      @@theenchantedforester4661 People thinking this only happens to narcissistic and evil people. Actually, it's very unlikely.
      More likely their victims hit rock bottom and snap.

    • @RicardoLopez-ty4kn
      @RicardoLopez-ty4kn 3 года назад +3

      @@Sarablueunicorn this is what im trying to find out am I an abuser wich karma got to me or am I a victim. Sometimes i dont know real from fake. I starded doing drugs so everyone says its rhe seug but i feel i was being manipulated and gaslighted and felt i was going crazy. I fell into depression and anxiety couldnt sleep at night. I feel people took advantage of me when i was depressed cause i became a people pleaser and never stood up for myself. So, now when I stand up for myself people think I have anger issues always feel guilt and end up apologizen all the time. For that reason I dont know wether im right or wrong.

    • @thedewdster
      @thedewdster 3 года назад +3

      @@RicardoLopez-ty4kn that really resonates with me too. People have told me for years I'm the problem when all I'm trying to do is set up boundaries and call people out on their bullshit.

  • @makaylahollywood3677
    @makaylahollywood3677 3 года назад +156

    "Weak people revenge, Strong people forgive, Intelligent people ignore". Albert Einstein. (for me npd abuse has been an addiction to people i wanted to love, a lifetime; but, could not love me back. The compulsion to get unavailable love; repeat my parents inability to model reciprocatory love)

    • @victorgonzalez2499
      @victorgonzalez2499 3 года назад +10

      I have managed to find a lot of peace via a place I call "Revenge by success and through rebellious joy". And what I mean by that is that yeah, you ignore your narcissist and leave them behind and try to thrive and find your meaning for success. However the revenge part comes on uplifting your empaths, finding new people in life who feel you are a positive influence and are grateful for your presence and thoughts. This brings a very special kind of happiness that is so toxic for narcissists that it helps you become more immune, empower others to leave or to revalue their own relationships and take ownership in what is it that you want to give to this world. No narcissist can not react to that kind of survivorship, in the end we have to see this also through the lens of social change, what kind of society we want is going to be dictated by who we enable and support into thriving and having a voice. That is power, let's take it away from the narcissists.

    • @geertruivanbroekhoven7209
      @geertruivanbroekhoven7209 3 года назад +7

      Mmm .. I wouldn't choose A. Einstein as an inspiration on this subject. The man had some serious narcissistic traits himself.

    • @evilmustdie6170
      @evilmustdie6170 3 года назад +5

      Yes they love their imagines revenge they can’t move on with life and stalk people forever and believe themselves to be messiahs of goodness

    • @LeBronJames-yr8ku
      @LeBronJames-yr8ku 3 года назад +4

      @@geertruivanbroekhoven7209 Einstein was so intelligent partially because he vibrated around the same resonance of love on the scale of consciousness. He was beginning to figure this out around the time of his passing. Love resonates around 500 on the scale of consciousness. We all have narcissistic traits.

    • @geertruivanbroekhoven7209
      @geertruivanbroekhoven7209 3 года назад +3

      @@LeBronJames-yr8ku Hi Blake, love is certainly a high frequency vibration. And yes, highly gifted/intelligent people are born with the gift to vibrate at a high frequency on the scale of consciousness. But that doesn't mean that they ALWAYS vibrate high on that scale.
      'If one combines a high frequency state with a certain subject, then the person 'loves' that subject (a thing, a person, an action, ...). But when that same person combines a low frequency state with a certain subject, then that person does not 'love' that subject.
      It is wel known that A. Einstein was not 'high frequency' on all subjects.
      It is also known that as far as his relations with women are concerned he was more in the 'desire' frequency ... and when he was done with the 'desire' (the fulfilling of his needs), he would discard women in a cold and harsh way.
      This is not some kind of 'opinion' of my own, it has been well documented in many of his own handwritten letters how he thought of women, how he treated them and what he demanded of them. Also the way he treated his children wasn't that 'high frequency' either. He was barely interested in them.
      I know that we all have narcissistic traits. But there are big differences in intensity, quantity and acting or not acting out those narcissistic traits. I wrote that A. Einstein had some SERIOUS narcissistic traits concerning the subject of personal and "love" relationships, and that I wouldn't take him as an example on THIS subject (referring to what was written in the posted message).
      I don't know in what context A. Einstein made the remark ""Weak people revenge, Strong people forgive, Intelligent people ignore", but as far as personal relationships are concerned, he was definately not strong enough to forgive. And as far as the 'ignoring' goes ... he regularly 'ignored' basic needs and feelings of other people quite coldly. That may be 'intelligent' when one's goal is only to get what one wants/needs for whatever reason. But it certainly is not very high frequency 'loving'.

  • @TakeMeToYourLida
    @TakeMeToYourLida 3 года назад +35

    Wow, then my narcissist mother has hit rock bottom countless times across many of these things: lost her business, been fired, been evicted, lost a lawsuit, had a partner leave, lost ties to only adult child, was the target of a public humiliating news story, etc. I never even considered these to be rock bottom moments because each is always just a bump in the road for her and nothing changes. I never realized this was the case because as you said, nothing sticks to her and she’s able to get almost everyone to believe it’s someone else’s fault. And now yes, she’s resentful, sullen, angry at the world, victimized, and rageful, which has left her lonely and isolated with all bridges burned, again just as you said. Thank you for these insights.

  • @victorgonzalez2499
    @victorgonzalez2499 3 года назад +52

    I have managed to find a lot of peace via a place I call "Revenge by success and through rebellious joy". And what I mean by that is that yeah, you ignore your narcissist and leave them behind and try to thrive and find your meaning for success. However the revenge part comes on uplifting your empaths, finding new people in life who feel you are a positive influence and are grateful for your presence and thoughts. This brings a very special kind of happiness that is so toxic for narcissists that it helps you become more immune, empower others to leave or to revalue their own relationships and take ownership in what is it that you want to give to this world. No narcissist can not react to that kind of survivorship, in the end we have to see this also through the lens of social change, what kind of society we want is going to be dictated by who we enable and support into thriving and having a voice. That is power, let's take it away from the narcissists.

  • @staciehulm4595
    @staciehulm4595 3 года назад +176

    The experience of being abused by a narcissist (my rock bottom) eventually resulted in my being able to identify my own need for validation, my need to be admired and/or desired, my understanding that no one cares as much about me as I think they do. I’m thankful for all the pain I went through which woke me up to my own flaws and conceits. It’s like waking up when you didn’t know you were asleep. And the mere awareness of these things helps me to remain self reflective and catch myself when I feel like I’m slipping back into these patterns. No one likes a self absorbed individual. We’ve got to be outward focused, developing/cultivating a real love for others. Not easy but not impossible with small steps and victories. ❤️

    • @mariesook9141
      @mariesook9141 3 года назад +9

      "It's like waking up when you didn't know you were asleep." --- very profound. I get that. I appreciate what you've shared. I hope your growth spurt has continued. For me the process of self reflection, emotional growth, and improvement is a life long endeavor. I started when I was 14 (bought first self help book) and I'm 62 now.... so many skills to cultivate & fears to overcome. I just wish I would have known much earlier that we are never a finished product. I sustained a lot of disappointment in myself because I didn't know that fire many years. I get it now, and I hope i don't forget it. We have a saying in 12-step groups "Progress not Perfection".
      However, it's mind boggling to know that many people see no benefit from such personal growth effort or even know that it's a thing.
      I commend you and wish you continued success in growth! I'm watching Star Trek right now so it seems appropriate to say, "Live long & prosper." ☆•••☆

    • @woollyfae
      @woollyfae 2 года назад +16

      I think living with narcissistic individuals long term DOES make you focused on your own wounds, insecurities, fears … it’s like an infection. And my healing process has involved a sort of rehabilitation. Wounded people wound others. Like an abused animal that bites when you try to pet them. I think it’s a grey area between the healthy you and the wounded you. At least for me …

    • @Subscribe164
      @Subscribe164 2 года назад +4

      Thanks for this very detailed contribution.
      You literally wrote about me, this was me for so many years, until God healed me through people like Dr Ramani.
      I’m a whole new person now, with a new and different perspective.

    • @2780-l2k
      @2780-l2k Год назад +1

      Wide Awake- by Katy Perry

  • @paulalexis3351
    @paulalexis3351 3 года назад +53

    First of all, thank you for making this video. I hope it helped others as much as it helped me understand. So I am fairly confident that I was a narcissist up until a couple of years ago. My rock bottom hit hard, but looking back it's what I needed and I'm thankful for it. First my home and entire city was wiped out after Hurricaine Katrina, then I lost my wife and kids, then I went a year and a half without being able to see my kids, then I lost my job, went unemployed for a couple years. Lost my house, went hungry most days, went into a deep depression for years. Disconnected from friends and family. It changed my perspective on life I started to feel empathy for the first time ever. I'm not complaining, I was a horrible person and I deserved what I got. The things I went thru was a direct result of my own actions. It's overwhelming sometimes thinking about how to make up for the person I was and the damage I've caused to other ppl. I've reached out to ppl to apologize and I've tried to make up for things, but honestly, it would take a special person to forgive someone like I was, I don't blame anyone but myself.
    Anyway, I've been so confused about this for awhile now, about what was happening, the changes in perspective that occurred. I didn't think it was possible to bed a narcissist and change. The thing that caught my attention the most was empathy. It first happened while watching a movie and I cried. I really felt sad like the person in the movie and that never in my life happened before. Anyway, everything u just explained just gave me understanding and I thank u for that.

    • @skyflowerz
      @skyflowerz 2 года назад +8

      Thank you for sharing about your journey. Are you in therapy? are you back on your feet?

    • @jacqw4695
      @jacqw4695 2 года назад +5

      I feel for you on many levels. The crying…wow. That is significant. My (estranged) bf was in a Fed Penitentiary for 20 years for drugs. He told me he hadn’t cried that whole time. Said if he did, it was when he was sentenced. He said he “may have shed a tear.”
      I pray he has the experience you did-I pray he feels that much for someone/something else-other than that which directly effects him-and maybe he will become more of a carbon-based individual like us other humans.
      (But I’m not waiting around for that to happen-he doesn’t see a problem with not crying. Ever. It’s MY PROBLEM. He says it’s weakness and anyone who cries is weak. He calls me a cry baby…Can you imagine what it must be like to not be around the opposite sex that many years? Of course, he learned that weakness theory in prison from all the other well-adjusted men he lived with. I’m sure it’s true in that environment. It’s another world there. They are lost, fearful animals when they come out of there.)

  • @sonnyca
    @sonnyca 3 года назад +90

    Those who are raised and emotionally abused by a malignant narcissist become tough as a coconut. Like you said, nothing sticks to them.
    They’re also human who can’t keep talking trash from anybody and everybody.

    • @kiralee169
      @kiralee169 3 года назад +3

      I wish this were true for me. Their words continue to affect my emotional wellbeing

    • @sonnyca
      @sonnyca 3 года назад

      @@kiralee169 It is my opinion that men and women react differently to abuse, cruel words and actions from a parent or sibling. Women tend to be more social and stick to their social circles and relationships whether they like it or not.

  • @gigibtsurvivor3348
    @gigibtsurvivor3348 3 года назад +108

    My ex had it all with me and the children. He destroyed it all and refused any offer of mine to give him space, support, and love to better himself and treat us with respect- I was left with no choice, but to move on. His worst enemy is himself.

    • @Nancy-yw1rr
      @Nancy-yw1rr 3 года назад +14

      They don't think they need to better themselves. We are supposed to revolve around them at all times.

    • @mig7290
      @mig7290 3 года назад +1

      You offered to give him space and he refused? Or you wanted space? Sorry for my lack of comprehension.

    • @Musicjunkie33912
      @Musicjunkie33912 3 года назад +5

      @@Nancy-yw1rr i found this out the hard way. Leaving my narc cheating husband and he is so resistant to therapy - so glad I’m leaving

  • @EditorDan
    @EditorDan 2 года назад +42

    A survivor of a narcissistic parent here. As an aspiring therapist I personally think there are too many people and outlets for the narcissist in todays society to reasonably tackle at the societal level. I think empowering people with the knowledge so they can protect themself is the best option

  • @mayevor8588
    @mayevor8588 3 года назад +26

    Thank you for this video!!!
    My husband shifted in to an abusing narcissist after the birth of our daughter, I remember the first time he raged, the trigger was my statement that in case of a fire I would run to my daughter first...he could not believe I actually said she comes first...he hit rock bottom when she was about 18 months and refused the be held by him, screaming that’s she’s scared of daddy...
    After three very bad therapists , three years from hell....and (!!) a month of me obsessively reading and listening to anything Dr.Ramani ever published..❤️😊
    I decided to look for a therapist that “understands” narcissist abuse.
    And I did!
    it’s been six months since we started seeing her, the change is gradual but consistent ( radical acceptance and patients on my part).
    What I just realized is that for me l, the hope comes from his newly found since of self reflection, he catches him self mid rage, and is able, with my help to turn down the hit.
    This video verbalized what I have been feeling.
    Sorry for babbling...a little emotional...
    🤦‍♀️😊

    • @purvamandlik4696
      @purvamandlik4696 3 года назад +6

      @May Evor, happy for you, if things are improving.
      But do keep an eye out for whether it's actually improvement or hoovering attempts.
      Once they know a breakdown keeps you hooked, they might pretend to have breakdowns each time they feel you are drifting away. Watch for the red flags.
      Lots of love to you and your baby.

    • @mayevor8588
      @mayevor8588 3 года назад +4

      @@purvamandlik4696 you just hit the nail on the head...and thanks for looking out for me ❤️
      love this community 😊
      that’s actually one of my biggest fears...which in turn makes my responses to his behavior a bit extreme, if comes home from work a bit grumpy , I instantly freeze, my heart rate spikes...the therapist says it’s similar to a PTSD reactions ( makes sense? I am not Completely comfortable with the analogy).

    • @genevalawrence801
      @genevalawrence801 3 года назад +7

      @@mayevor8588 , it's not just "similar to" a PTSD reaction. It's a classic "fight, flight, or freeze" reaction to danger, and you should listen to it. You perceive danger when he comes home from work grumpy because there is a history of that being a dangerous situation for you. Your nervous system is responding as it was designed to do - it is assessing and preparing for a threat. His 'trying harder" isn't going to change that if he's still raging. Your body's survival response is what it is because his behavior is still threatening, even if he's now "catching himself mid rage." That's progress perhaps, but he's still raging. Calming your responses while there is still threatening behavior in your house is not a realistic expectation. His intentions to do better aren't the same as doing better. A rage cut off mid way is still a tool for coercion, because it's a reminder to you of what he could do if he allowed himself to. You having a threat response is normal under these conditions, because you are still under threat, and the only thing between you and a full blown threat is your narcissistic partner's self-control. Stopping rages mid way is still coercive, controlling behavior, and relying on your help to turn it down a bit is still him relying on you for his emotional regulation. His control of his emotions is not your job. Him still making it your job while parading his improvements in front of a therapist is him engaging in a performance. He can now try to claim he is working on it in therapy while still using you to regulate and using his behavior to threaten with.

    • @purvamandlik4696
      @purvamandlik4696 3 года назад +5

      I agree with@@genevalawrence801 . They have adult tantrums that manifest as rages. They have not learnt to regulate themselves in childhood. It's too late to learn now. My narc would say sorry and cry everytime he felt I was distancing myself. Only legal threat worked to keep him in line. Therapist is not enough of a consequence. Too tame.
      Also, they are not good company for kids. They model bad values to emulate.
      PTSD - your trauma is ongoing. Once you distance yourself from this scenario, you will be able to see it as a whole picture. Could you try getting away for a few days for a start?

    • @mayevor8588
      @mayevor8588 3 года назад +1

      @@purvamandlik4696 I actually threw him out of the house a few times, at the moment we do one night together two apart, on the weekends our daughter stays with at his parents house for 24 hours.
      As I said, I am well informed and highly aware.
      And I must say , and I know it’s easy to classify this as classic Hoover behavior, and since I know I can’t be objective, I have 2 licensed physiologists and a physiotherapist monitoring everything.
      I don’t know if we will make it, but I choose to give it one last try, but this time, it’s on my terms.
      What do you think? Am I completely delusional?

  • @dhanyaslifeventure
    @dhanyaslifeventure 3 года назад +36

    If there's one final prayer I could have,I pray all the narcs see their karma and we empaths just stand quiet watching that.They see how much we went through,if not with regret at least with punishment

    • @daleswain9520
      @daleswain9520 3 года назад +8

      But knowing us empaths... although we would know that justice is served, we would still feel badly for them. It breaks my heart to know they are the person who hold the keys to their jail cell and all they have to do is turn the key and do their deep dive to learning and healing... not dissimilar to what we survivors experience. Only we have the key and once we turn the key a walk away for good from the narc (our jail cell) our freedom begins immediately with some therapy.

    • @NetiNeti-gm5bz
      @NetiNeti-gm5bz 3 года назад +5

      It's possible but you need to forgive them and forgive yourself (for not being kind to yourself). You cannot forgive others unless you've forgiven yourself first. That's why Jesus is the ultimate empath. He embodied forgiveness and compassion. Show compassion and forgiveness towards yourself. This is what accelerates karma. Ultimately forgiveness is for yourself because you're gifting peace to your own being.

    • @laurawilliams7407
      @laurawilliams7407 3 года назад +5

      I’m positive that mine would still be standing there arguing that he was right all along. I noticed early in our marriage that he always placed blame on anyone but him. There were times when it was so blatantly him and ironically then he would drop the subject. I never saw the man take responsibility one time.

    • @daleswain9520
      @daleswain9520 3 года назад +3

      Yep mine got arrested in the navy exchange for shop lifting which was just I guess the grandiose of the thrill and was in the navy, the navy has it on video and he got bursted pay and probationers he (so we families in the navy world ) couldn’t leave town for a year and when we did We went to visit family and I overheard him tell his parents we were on probation bc it was me who did the shoplifting. Wow this was how I began to see the patterns of his behavior... smh

    • @laurawilliams7407
      @laurawilliams7407 3 года назад +3

      @@daleswain9520 Wow. My dad was an officer in the Navy (EOD). I grew up in that world and am familiar with the Navy Exchange and commissary. I cannot imagine how hard that must be for you. The military does not take kindly to such actions. I’m sorry you went through all that. How are you handling the stress of it all?

  • @savymil3857
    @savymil3857 Год назад +18

    Doctor Ramani, I can’t thank you enough for all of your work on narcissism. Ultimately life changing ❤

  • @LeilaJane
    @LeilaJane 3 года назад +64

    Ok this is great. Next week I'm giving an interview and explaining how my parent's neglectful and shaming behaviour led me to having countless toxic relationships which then provided me with the subject matter for all my songs which I'm now making my career out of. This will be the first time I actually describe my parents behaviour out loud to anyone. I think I'm ready and it has been a long time coming. Here I am 20 years later standing up for my child self that needed to have her voice heard all that time ago! Bring it on baby! Woop. take that for consequence! 🙌

    • @christianpulisic7784
      @christianpulisic7784 3 года назад +1

      Leila Jane,You look stunning,hope you are not with a narc 😈!

  • @jimbear8888
    @jimbear8888 3 года назад +48

    I've two ex narc spouses that have hit rock bottom repeatedly. Both alcoholic, one does drugs also. Both high standing members of the community still. They are " like teflon, nothing sticks."
    I'm convinced that for either to change, it would be through a brain transplant.
    I love you Dr. Ramani , you're simply the very best in your field and as a human being ♥️

    • @ankeydorice7611
      @ankeydorice7611 Год назад

      Brain transplant 😂😂😂

    • @joeysgear1419
      @joeysgear1419 Год назад

      Why did you fall for a second narcissist after the first one?

  • @AugustRichards
    @AugustRichards Год назад +11

    Thank you for these videos. I was raised in a very abusive family and nearly went down the same path. My mother is a horrible narcissist, for years a raging alcoholic who would belligerently and viciously attack people on video poker when she could no longer go to bars. I despised her, every time she went to the bathroom I had to pour out alcohol so she wouldn't drink herself to death. Eventually, I got a job that allowed me to travel and everything came to a head and I could bo longer swallow my feelings and nearly died myself. Thanks to a great healthcare system and therapy, I am healthy and recovering. Learning how to love myself has been a great challenge and this past year, for the first time in my life I feel loved.

    • @tuoctran43
      @tuoctran43 Год назад

      I’m so proud of you August. This was inspiration, thank you so much for sharing. Love and light

  • @hamdlillah101
    @hamdlillah101 3 года назад +116

    I think my narc is gonna hit rock bottom soon. He thought I'd never leave him but I finalllllyyyy am! He's totally shocked and devastated bc he never thought I'd do this to him.
    Tbh I'm not leaving him to harm him or bring him misery and have no joy about it since I'm an empath. But he brought this upon himself and I cannot help it.. 😔

    • @birdgirl8390
      @birdgirl8390 3 года назад +41

      That's the thing they'll never understand. We don't leave them to hurt them, we leave so we get a chance at surviving and living a healthy life.

    • @hamdlillah101
      @hamdlillah101 3 года назад +5

      @@birdgirl8390 yes 💯

    • @Donita1213
      @Donita1213 3 года назад +6

      Yes you got to go. I don't know how long you were with him but. A week is too long. I was with my ex for 4 months. And that was about a year ago. It's still kind of pisses me off how I let him treat me.

    • @hamdlillah101
      @hamdlillah101 3 года назад +12

      @@Donita1213 you won't believe it.. Almost 8 years! I was never going to leave until he just crossed all boundaries which I'm gladdd he did.
      I sometimes feel like throwing up thinking about all the things he did to me and I tolerated them 🤮

    • @Donita1213
      @Donita1213 3 года назад +4

      @@hamdlillah101 8 years??? All I can say is you got nerves of steel. I would have killed myself or him if I had to deal with that long of a Time.
      Isn't it strange. I got married late in life but it lasted for 20 years. And I had a couple of relationships before that and the couple after. But I've never experienced such a hell. And they're so sneaky about it.
      I'm so glad you're deciding to get out. Believe me you feel like you've been born again. Yeah but like me you'll probably be pissed off for a while. Watching these videos really help a lot.

  • @marieborchardt2910
    @marieborchardt2910 3 года назад +65

    I suspect the narcissist I walked away from has hit rock bottom several times in her life, but she seems to keep rising again and continues to create even more chaos, heartbreak and broken relationships.
    I'm so happy to be out of her sphere. As much as I hate what she's done, I feel her punishment is having to be her, to live in her own head. She'll never be truly happy or content in life. She'll never have enough and she'll always blame others.

  • @analizagarza1386
    @analizagarza1386 2 года назад +11

    This video hits it on the nose!!!! It’s crazy how much a non narcissistic person can understand to much about the NPD illness and exactly what goes on.

  • @SophieBird07
    @SophieBird07 3 года назад +20

    Very true about narcissists and addiction. They are addicted to themselves. Try as they might to play nice that self-addiction will usually win out.

  • @tkjfreedman
    @tkjfreedman 3 года назад +150

    My ex truly hit rock bottom after I left. A month after our papers were signed, he was finally fired. Then, his best friend committed suicide. Then, his (remaining) parent died. Then during COVID (when he was unemployed and had no narcissistic supply) his dog died. It’s been four years, and he’s working me as hard as he can...I’m his only remaining supply. It so hard....I’m there for him when I can, but I refuse to get sucked back in. This is HIS journey, not mine, and it’s not my job to fix. It’s been among the hardest times I’ve faced with him because I’m so empathic. I truly believe he is at rock bottom, and I steadfastly refuse to save him. This time, he must save himself.

    • @farangisehsani592
      @farangisehsani592 2 года назад +19

      Please dont come back

    • @dubbyx8490
      @dubbyx8490 2 года назад +16

      Hope you didn't go back

    • @TipTheScales27
      @TipTheScales27 2 года назад +1

      Do you have kids with this person? If not, just cut the cord and leave them forever

    • @kekethetoad
      @kekethetoad 2 года назад

      You sound like a sociopath.

    • @SunshineAndStarrs
      @SunshineAndStarrs 2 года назад +16

      So why are you giving him the time of day when he never respected you to begin with? Stop feeling sorry for him and reclaim that respect back to yourself. You deserve it. You deserve peace of mind. You deserve to block his number, social media accounts and all other various accounts. You deserve to go No Contact on him. You definitely have a lot of empathy and he’s going to forever feed off of this. You deserve the upmost respect and love. Set yourself free to love yourself again.
      Sending so much love to you 💖🌟💖

  • @michellebeishline4657
    @michellebeishline4657 Год назад +8

    Having a blue day. Just grieving the gravity and weight of my childhood and living survivor mode majority of my life. I am not in survivor mode anymore, but as a result now in a place to really process and grieve the losses. Just grieving, and that is okay, and is quite honestly necessary. You are always so validating and educating. Maybe an interesting topic for you is to discuss grieving and the fact that it is okay and part of the process, and just may be necessary for some as part of the letting go of the past.
    ❤️ you Dr. Ramani!

  • @ambercasley8080
    @ambercasley8080 3 года назад +60

    'The gift' on Netflix is pretty satisfying if you want a narc takedown thriller.

    • @MegDD3912
      @MegDD3912 3 года назад +10

      Thanks! I'm gonna check it out. Lol

    • @MM-nh8ez
      @MM-nh8ez 3 года назад +14

      Sleeping With the Enemy is a pretty accurate narc portrayal IMO.

    • @oppressednolonger1497
      @oppressednolonger1497 3 года назад +7

      @@MM-nh8ez Great point, excellent portrayal in thes film, the husband is a horrid NPD abuser. Its slightly dated but the writers really nail a dangerous NPD.Also what is evident in the film is the portrayal of the former wifes resulting trauma, (I do mean Julie Roberts's portrayal and she had to go full speed incognito to become an ex! Its so much what it can feel like when you try and leave them- maybe less 'hollywoodised'). the viewer is left however wondering if she truly heals later. it ends well - I hesitate to say ends "well" but unless you can truly get off their radar, and they are sociopathic enough to continue to pursue the victim, the way the film ends his character is overdramatic, as hollywood usually is! but it does seem to drive the point home. in the film, the perp is finally gone, but you wonder about the victims wellbeing in the future.

    • @TheIslandBelle
      @TheIslandBelle 3 года назад +7

      @@oppressednolonger1497 Yes, I was diagnosed with PTSD as a result of the physical, mental, and emotional trauma I experienced at the hands of my ex-narc

    • @christinebuckingham8369
      @christinebuckingham8369 3 года назад +1

      @@MM-nh8ez Enough is a great movie too and she escapes and triumphs over an extremely malignant narcissist!

  • @td2968
    @td2968 3 года назад +46

    This message may give hope to anyone who has a narcissist in their life, however I have never known or known anyone who has known a narc to change , majority of narcs just get worse in different ways as they grow older.

    • @rohithreddy75
      @rohithreddy75 3 года назад +4

      You have the right knowledge.They dont change and dont expect anyone to change.
      Talk to them at face value

  • @nullinvoid1415
    @nullinvoid1415 2 года назад +20

    As a child, I had to witness my mom repeatedly beat my sister with a broom. She allowed my sister to get abused by my dad and when my sister tried to tell the school, my mom had her put in special education. I'm now 31, soon to be 32. About to cut ties with her this year. She acts like an innocent golden girl now that she's older and sober but she really messed up our lives. I really want nothing to do w/ her and I know when I leave she'll be devastated and try to hurt me (emotionally). We're not friends.

  • @onceuponanexploration6048
    @onceuponanexploration6048 3 года назад +26

    Dr. Ramani... all of this quiet, insightful stuff. It's all so true. Confronting a narcissist can endanger your well-being and your life.

  • @strngenchantedgirl
    @strngenchantedgirl 3 года назад +80

    My father is literally living in his car right now because he has severely broken all of his relationships over and over again. We have a restraining order against him. He is still spending his time and money trying to keep up appearances while homeless. He won’t make smart decisions to take care of himself. And everything is still not his fault. He is still trying to manipulate all of us about how we need him. When really he’s desperate to get back in somehow so we will continue to take care of him while he sucks the money and life out of us. My sister and I have always been amazed by his capacity to keep going despite everything that he has destroyed and failed at. I think change is impossible for him.

    • @youtubechannel8276
      @youtubechannel8276 3 года назад +18

      The fact he can't say "I need you". He's that narcissistic he's saying "you need me".

    • @joseenoel8093
      @joseenoel8093 3 года назад +3

      My dad lived on a park bench for a while, he let his lucrative business fall apart, oh well, variety is the spice of life as they say!

  • @savannahbanks
    @savannahbanks 3 года назад +16

    Everything you say about narcissistic depression is so true of me.
    I can’t get help.

    • @christianpulisic7784
      @christianpulisic7784 3 года назад +1

      Savannah Banks,You look stunning 🌹🥀,hope you are not with a narc 😈!

    • @johnsadis6471
      @johnsadis6471 2 года назад

      This page sounds like help to me

  • @MojaveSun19
    @MojaveSun19 3 года назад +22

    I believe that it is possible to recover from narcissism after hitting rock bottom. I did, I am. I have had a lot of therapy to help me through it. And, you are right, it is daily work to recover. It is have been 4 years since I hit rock bottom, and I still catch myself falling into old habits. I do it less and less, and the more I learn and the better behaviors I gain, the easier it gets.

    • @beaglerescue5281
      @beaglerescue5281 Год назад

      We all have a bit of narcissism is us which we must work on. I’m glad you’re able to admit it and work on it.

  • @sarahpotts3253
    @sarahpotts3253 3 года назад +98

    Whoever's fault it is, they have a personality disorder. We can't fix that. Walk away

    • @christinebuckingham8369
      @christinebuckingham8369 3 года назад +2

      👍💯💯💯

    • @jaydenpaulmartine698
      @jaydenpaulmartine698 3 года назад +6

      Yeah being a narcissist comes with multiple different mental disorders. There sociopaths, psychopaths multiple personalities in one. Yes I agree we simply cannot reason with a person with multiple personalities. Because that means there multiple people all in one. U may reason with one of them but certainly not all of them. There broken people.

  • @aliaalameri1403
    @aliaalameri1403 3 года назад +12

    "the celebrity whose brand is compassion and kindness gets called out for being harsh and unkind" Ellen

  • @christinewilliams1298
    @christinewilliams1298 3 года назад +87

    This video hit me harder than anything else I’ve listened to. As a person celebrating 4 years of sobriety I’ve “put in the work” , ( lots & lots of work) to entirely change my life. New friends, new job, new house.... yet one thing remained... old narcissistic partner.
    I clicked on this video to learn about narcissists & instead learned that I’m being enabling & keeping myself from fully recovering.
    I can’t put into words the profound clarity I have after watching this. Thank you so much! ❤️

    • @churrymurray
      @churrymurray 3 года назад +1

      VERY happy for you. Things can really change dramatically now if u make the right choices. I find it's a process instead of like one hard act. Mentally, it takes sometime to untangle from it. I strongly suggest getting to a 'no contact' place.

    • @churrymurray
      @churrymurray 3 года назад +6

      Oh, and I've been in sobriety 12 years. I've had narcissistic partners but I've been going no contact with toxic family members one by one. It's been hard and confusing but I've found a new feeling of freedom and the CLARITY!!....you see things REALLY clearly once you're distanced from it for a while. Good luck on your journey!

    • @saraa6040
      @saraa6040 3 года назад +4

      When the penny drops, it's life changing. Best wishes to you

  • @dirtyhoefarms2024
    @dirtyhoefarms2024 3 года назад +6

    @15:50 ... the experience of aging - loss of power, attractiveness, vigor, recognition, attention ... Dr. R, thank you so very much for taking time to help!

    • @oscarwilliamson6163
      @oscarwilliamson6163 2 года назад

      April Sparkman,You look cute,Hope you are not with a narcissist....

    • @kathiejl1
      @kathiejl1 2 года назад

      Very recently my narc husband lost his narcissistic mother who is 87 years old and I lost my father who was 83 who was also narcissist. I often talked about how they died lonely because of their behavior. Not really knowing much about narcissism at the time.
      I know my husband heard me and he may have even mentioned it himself a few times. I was truly hoping that he could see himself, but now I’ll never know as he came out of a five week silent treatment to let me know that we should probably part ways. And then he proceeded to say that I was the narcissist. Which of course Dr. Ramani has a videotape on.

  • @dianah3204
    @dianah3204 11 дней назад

    Dr Ramani, thank you! He’s been out of my life for over 5 years, and his 88 year old Mom called yesterday as she’s had no contact with him for over a year, and asked if I knew how to find him as she’s worried.
    We had a conversation and I gently reminded her that he brought the disaster of his life upon himself thru his own actions……
    I’m so glad I escaped the hell I found myself in after 18 months of marriage, and got the necessary help I needed for me to thrive.
    Thank you for your videos, and it’s nice to check in on a few reminders of where I was vs where I am 😊🙏

  • @angelabonito5160
    @angelabonito5160 3 года назад +8

    Hello dr Ramani as always very wise words. Thank you .i have to confess that today , after 10 years, it still difficult for me to see or imagine that “my” narcissist suffers of will ever suffer. They always seem so self secure and happy

    • @oscarwilliamson1264
      @oscarwilliamson1264 3 года назад

      Angela Bonito,You don't deserve to be with a narc 😈 cause you are beautiful 🌹🌹🌷🌷🥀

  • @RealityCheck1980
    @RealityCheck1980 3 года назад +8

    Thank you for reminding us....To not wait around for them to recover...Thank you.

  • @par3caddy
    @par3caddy 3 года назад +8

    Thank you Dr Ramani. Im at 6 years of sobriety . First time looking at the parallels of addiction to narcissism. This is so eye opening studies. As a pathway and a better roadmap to healthy healing recovery

  • @shakawarrior1146
    @shakawarrior1146 3 года назад +18

    Thank you Dr. Ramani for this extremely informative take on the demise and downfall of the Narc. These people are simply reaping what they've sown in their intentional attempts to destroy the lives of others! KARMA IS A GANSTA and doesn't forget an address. Thank you! 💜🌸

  • @birdgirl8390
    @birdgirl8390 3 года назад +6

    Thank you Dr Ramani!
    I don't watch that many videos of you anymore because I think I've finally put a closure on all the stuff that has happened to me. I'm not angry at the narcs in my life anymore, I'm not mad at myself anymore for being unable to help them. It is how it is. Family will always be the way they are and if my ex thinks he found a purpose in life by making fake accounts, getting new phone contracts, making new emails and stalking my friends, instead of getting sober, going to therapy, finding the woman of his dreams, getting a family with her etc. Welp I made my life choices and he's free to do the same.
    It's sad what my parents and ex have turned into, but I can't change it and they don't want to change it. They'll probably never hit rock bottom, because they live and breathe drama. The more the better.
    Radical acceptance 🧘🏻

  • @strawberrysangria1474
    @strawberrysangria1474 Год назад +138

    The more I hear about unaware narcissists, the worse I feel for them. Their relationships are shallow, many people will leave them for their own sanity, their manipulation and fighting are constant, and they're afraid to exist as themselves. What an awful life to lead, it must be extremely lonely.

    • @ryandunn837
      @ryandunn837 Год назад +2

      I feel this way right now

    • @ravenID429
      @ravenID429 Год назад +1

      Good lol

    • @kigzman1745
      @kigzman1745 Год назад +1

      @ryandunn837 how u feeling now? Have u sort counselling?

    • @m.asammy3049
      @m.asammy3049 11 месяцев назад

      They're not tht unaware..they hve behaviours they hide and change when pple they may need something from are present.
      Fear of getting sick, but they make others sick.
      Sorry, I have like NO patience anymore.

    • @comnandmentsdeadlysins
      @comnandmentsdeadlysins 10 месяцев назад +4

      Thank you for sharing. When you heal enough all the LOVE in you starts coming back. I have empathy for my narcissistic sibling because I witnessed the abuse he endured as a child. I stood before him and protected him from abuse. He is not in my life but each day I wish the best for him. I do not like seeing anyone or anything suffer and want the best for all. My sibling did not ask to be abused and have mental and emotional issues they were given to him without his consent. I wish one day he will LOVE himself as much as I LOVE him. I would not be me if not for him as he saved me mentally and emotionally when we were young children.

  • @reylime2991
    @reylime2991 3 года назад +103

    They’re at rock bottom from the beginning. They’re never content.

    • @mig7290
      @mig7290 3 года назад

      Not necessarily. And most people here who believe they had or have a narcissist with NPD really probably had a ASPD or BD with narcissistic tendencies.

    • @mig7290
      @mig7290 3 года назад

      The beginning of what? Of time or their life?

  • @travis6694
    @travis6694 3 года назад +113

    The emotional damage my ex left on me was astounding. I’ve had 3 serious relationships at age 26. But none have affected me like my narcissistic ex, it was an emotionally painful experience that was so dark. The hurt and pain I feel from being used is almost like a violated feeling. The lack of emotions, empathy, the huge ego, the manipulation, it was a wreck.
    Not soon after did she find her new supply whom she got matching tattoos with, the same design I refused to get with her months ago. She is such an empty, miserable soul.

    • @007lutherking
      @007lutherking 3 года назад +8

      Addicts are only loyal to their addictions my guy, just like a vampire, they can't help it when they sense blood, youd see it in their eyes. Offer them blood and they'll be ever so very attentive and would do ANYTHING to get access to that blood.

    • @BACKNE
      @BACKNE 3 года назад +4

      I wish you well ❣️ I know it's hard and it's okay if it's hard.Its normal,it's okay .Wishing you well

    • @Max_G43
      @Max_G43 3 года назад +2

      I feel bad for her same for mine

    • @Deathstrike1102
      @Deathstrike1102 2 года назад +3

      I just turned 26 and I’ve had 2 relationships, my third one (my ex) was the worst and still is the worst experience I’m battling. The words, the lies, the abuse, the rage, the cycle! I feel violated too man. I can’t wait for the day when I don’t care about a darn thing about her.

    • @michellewall6748
      @michellewall6748 2 года назад +1

      Yes.... she is... she won’t change... enjoy your freedom!

  • @christineplaton3048
    @christineplaton3048 2 года назад +4

    Very good to see this. Helps to know. Doesn't change the circumstances we went through, but gives a perspective that assists in understanding these people and their extremely angry, enraged behavior....

  • @frjosemaria
    @frjosemaria 3 года назад +11

    I cannot thank you enough for teaching us about these realities.

  • @fififlower100
    @fififlower100 3 года назад +6

    Such an important video Dr Ramani. You've given me so much hope that in the end they just don't win at their horrific games. Not financially, not in a family, not emotionally, mentally or sexually. They create the path to their own self destruction and its better to step away from the fallout.

  • @MrDavid170
    @MrDavid170 Год назад +12

    My narcissistic husband took his own life when he hit ‘rock bottom’ he had entered into a terrible depression. He admitted he’d been having an affair (again) and knew he had his last chance the last time. So not to face loosing everything (house/wife/kids) he chose to take the only way out he could see for himself. It really does happen, so everyone be aware of this. I wouldn’t have stayed with him, but I would’ve made sure he’d gotten help if I’d known what he was planning to do. 😞

    • @alexandrialaveaux
      @alexandrialaveaux 11 месяцев назад +1

      You are saying you would have allowed him to torture you because you feel empathy for those in pain enough to kill themselves. Realize your love can’t and won’t save anyone. He would have happily let you and anyone else suffer because he chose to never face himself.He was a coward in life and death there’s nothing you could do about that❤ You don’t get a medal for being stupid. It’s stupid to ALLOW others to hurt you when you know they have at every opportunity.
      Be free and do your best to grieve him. Much Love

    • @divya8266
      @divya8266 5 месяцев назад

      It's scary to read this

  • @platinumgreyx8976
    @platinumgreyx8976 3 года назад +25

    Had a narcissist friend who would always treat me like crap. But would never recognize it. And would play the victim. Pure toxic poison

    • @aijazsiddique8713
      @aijazsiddique8713 5 месяцев назад

      Oh God. I had one as well. I removed/blocked him everywhere (without telling him) when I realized how toxic he was.

  • @jkmeibos
    @jkmeibos 3 года назад +9

    You look gorgeous! Thank you for all your helpful videos, they have been so great in my healing.

  • @mpacino1224
    @mpacino1224 Год назад +2

    My nephew died of addiction. And you are so right. Every time the Narcissist is called out they go crazy. Mine cried when she was exposed and I was so shocked. I did not expect that. It made me feel so bad.

  • @Fuzballoffur
    @Fuzballoffur 3 года назад +19

    I appreciate this video. I can’t help but feel sad for my ex-partner when I hear things like this. There were times that he did make threats to hurt himself and it does scare me from time to time to think that something could happen to him. It is hard not being his emotional support anymore, because I worry. But ultimately I had to choose me, and I really want to have space left for people that will benefit from my help. I hope that he grows and changes even though I won’t get to benefit from that change. I still miss who I thought he was 💔

    • @drmel37
      @drmel37 3 года назад +1

      Sad, I feel the same way, it's sad that it was all a joke to her!

  • @seanbouie7226
    @seanbouie7226 3 года назад +7

    One of my past narcissist used his addiction and recovery as a way of making me feel bad for him and also admiring him for his strength of overcoming something so difficult. So of course I fell for it....we trauma bonded, fell in love, and moved in blah blah blah. We took our first trip together after a month flew first class, dinners, and went shopping. We got into an argument in one of the stores because I got too many things and then he disappeared later that night. He left me stranded and I had to figure out how to get back home. I didn't here from him for two weeks until he came home, and I couldn't even get upset or express how I felt about what he did because he acted like a sad old baby and victimized himself as if someone forced him to do drugs. That set the tone for the next 4 year of my life. Grandiose Narcissists are the worst type.

  • @Andresseus
    @Andresseus Год назад +33

    A narcissist is like having an unwanted app on your device that always wants updates, your photos, your location, and unfunctional when you restrict your privacy and all those other access points.

  • @jbilotta
    @jbilotta 3 года назад +70

    I’m fairly certain that my narc ex will blame me for his life forever unless he finds another woman that can give him a free ride & deal with his bad behavior as he collects as much as he can from his Mom. I really, really tried to exhaust every option to make our relationship better. He didn’t make any effort to help me with money/living expenses & was angry/sullen every day. When he started verbally attacking me it was over. I wonder what his bottom will be. When his mother dies I’m afraid.

    • @anid828
      @anid828 3 года назад +8

      Yeah mine would rather be homeless than pay for a place.

    • @marisadaniela6
      @marisadaniela6 3 года назад +9

      I'm still with my partner, but he also has a very weird enmeshed relationship with his mother, and even knows it's unhealthy, but won't change anything (she is quite narcissistic, too)

    • @birdgirl8390
      @birdgirl8390 3 года назад +7

      I feel the same way, just wish I had ended the relationship when the verbal and emotional abuse started. One day his mom will be fed up or die and then he'll have to face reality.

    • @jbilotta
      @jbilotta 3 года назад +2

      @@marisadaniela6 - i’m sorry to hear that. Those relationships never change. The mother has a huge secondary gain.

    • @dapsolita
      @dapsolita 3 года назад +7

      Wow. It sounds like we have the same ex husband 😝

  • @loveinthematrix
    @loveinthematrix 3 года назад +35

    Dr. Ramani look good 😍

  • @terriblue68
    @terriblue68 Год назад +2

    No one, no human being, could get me clean & sober. It was rock bottom for me, I surrendered to my disease. My life had become unmanageable in every aspect of the word. But I had a willingness, I never had before. It wasn't easy, but so rewarding. One day at a time.
    Thank you for your videos. They're so incredibly helpful ❤😊

  • @guitarplayerfactorychannel
    @guitarplayerfactorychannel 3 года назад +5

    Great video. Funny, I was meditating on narcissistic rock bottom metaphors today. They are like someone in freefall, akin to being in mothers arms. Rock bottom is the only place to grow strong legs. But it's work trying to stand up so they abhore it and would rather find someone to float their boat, an eternally sinking boat. This is why explaining the notion of accountability and self esteem is like explaining to a fish how to walk. You will be seen as alien to them. Keep standing up.