I had a Near Fatal Incident - GriGri Slipping
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- Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2022
- I never seen GriGri Slipping without pressing on the cam...
After my first near ground fall during Rock Climbing I had to investigate this...
So to be safe make sure to always have a grip on the brake side of the Rope - especially if you are belaying with extremely skinny Ropes.
User Manuals are for a reason and I'm sure there are other funky situations that I'm not aware of that could result into accidents, so don't threat GriGri as hands free device if you don't want to be a statistic.
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The Purpose of this video was to demonstrate that GriGri can Slip even if you don't press on the Cam - which I never seen happening before.
However It's NOT a fault of GriGri, rather poor belay practise of not Having a firm Grip on the Brake side of the Rope, which is common amongst intermediate / advanced Climbers when they get too Comfortable.
It took me a while to figure out all conditions necessary for this to happen: Thin Rope + Friction + Steep angle to the quickdraw + Belayer anticipating for a clip and holding the hand in ready to feed slack position without actually actively holding the rope.
So yea.... Falls happen really quick, I was surprised how quick my backup went through my hand on my tests, so make sure to not fall into lazy, automatic belaying & hold the rope.
Yea, the problem was you were belayed by a GriGri and not a person. I'm surprised you willingly took a second fall.
I'm confused why the belayer wouldn't have realized what happened after the fact, especially if they were sure there wasn't a huge amount of slack. 10m (more?) of rope screaming through your belay device in a second or two seems like it would be easily noticeable. And then they would be paying closer attention to the brake hand the next time. Quite a confluence of events though.
I think there's an opportunity to throw in a few more variables here.
The cam engaging is dependent on:
The rope providing enough friction throughout its contact with your cam to defeat the spring. A skinny rope = less friction and less likely to engage the cam
The position of the brake rope and the weight of the rope. The position we usually keep the rope in makes feeding easier by avoiding kinks; if there is no method to even mildly slow the rope from going into the device(the brake hand), your cam cannot engage.
Could you test this with a sandbag and a belayer belaying while kneeling/sitting? This means that there's only so little weight of the rope actually pulling down and might have similar characteristics to running out of rope.
I really appreciate this video, it couldn't have come at a better time for me
I don’t know. I think this is poor engineering by petzl. That’s not even bad grigri belaying technique officially, and is extremely common to see people belaying that way. IMO petzl overlooked this engineering fault in their testing and this is a major design flaw.
I've always corrected anyone who tells someone that the gri gri is auto locking for this exact reason. Some people see it as me being a rude know-it-all. But in reality I'm just trying to make sure they're giving beginners the right idea because there's a very important distinction between auto locking and assisted braking.
It’s easier to point out to beginners, seasoned climbers are the worst, they won’t be told and presume because they haven’t dropped anyone yet that they never will. You see it on professional climbers vids all the time, Pros with really bad habits that they don’t even cut out the video.
@@kevedwards ondra without a helmet is the biggest coming to mind right now
The grigri is problematic because its function is too much of a black box. The mistakes that can happen with it can be in odd ways that defy expectation.
My climbing instructor told me exactly that, "don't worry gri gri auto locks". Such a shame (for him) that I learned more about security here on ben's channel than from a "certified" instructor.
@@Rankidu It's more of a shame for the others he teaches who don't follow channels like this one, and for their climbing partners. This won't affect the instructor until one of his past pupils kills someone.
No one should expect grigri to catch a fall if they don't hold the rope. There may be some unfavorable conditions, but we shouldn't blame them if rule no. 1 is broken
Exactly. This was just the result of improper belaying.
Yes this ancient news needs to be repeated regularly.
You are absolutely right that the belayer absolutely needs to hold the rope at all times. No questioning this.
But what I am questioning is why the hell should I buy a belaying device that's supposed to be "automatic" and should prevent these exact kind of accident in any situation when it can't do a better job than a Megajoule or similar things, which cost a fraction of this?
I never liked Grigris, they are expensive, heavy and you can't see what the rope does inside.
@@dereinzigwahreRichi the belay device engaged like it's supposed to do, you can fault the producer only if it didn't engage at all, this is 100% human error for 3 different reasons
@@mauriziom989 but isn't the supposed advantage of the Grigri, that it should lock automatically even when the brake hand is not on the rope or the belayer is unable to react? When he is it by a rock or something e.g.
It’s very nice of you to make it sound like it wasn’t 100% your belayer’s fault.
in fact it was
I was mad for a bit, but this kinda stuff could happen to many and I'm super happy to share the stuff I discovered due to this.
Though imo the belayer should know if many meters of rope slipped through the device
@@sylvernale my thought exactly. How do you not notice this like what
@@HardIsEasy I’d have been mad too but as much as I’d hate to be the guy who fell, I’d hate to be the belayer more. Honestly I don’t think I’d be able to live with myself if I’d caused someone’s death. Which is why I watch your channel!
That was a great takeaway 😂. Glad you’re ok.
Yea was a fun ride :DD Now I'm ready to try some sky diving :D Or Rope Jump stuff you do...
I'm surprised that you went to try the fall again after the first time something went wrong - I'd be coming straight to the ground to figure out what the hell happened. Glad nobody was hurt!
Only then he would've never found out what happened, right?
I'm surprised the same poor belay technique was used for the test fall
@@stevePHXD Maybe someone provided a back up and he just didn't mention it.
It’s even crazier that his belayer still did the same shit!
Had I similar incident.
Climbing with inexperienced belayer.
Belayer was lowering me from the anchor, I held the rope to pull myself to the quickdraw to remove it.
Some slack was created between my hand to the anchor and to my harness.
Belayer used Mamut Alpine smart, having it mosty open to lower me, and since I held the rope I wasn't going down and she opened the device even more.
Leaving the rope and "falling" on the belayer caused her hit the wall and letting go of the rope to protect herself (plus she got a slight rope burn as well)
The device was stuck in an open possition on the rock face.
I fell the enitre rest of the route (9m) to the ground.
Luckily there was enough friction in the system and I landed perfectly on my feet so I didn't get injured at all.
Holy shit dude, thank goodness you're ok. Thanks for sharing.
This sounds more like bad communication and no commands between you and your belayer.
@@Palek83 have to agree , should be fairly obvious not to keep giving slack if your are unclipping. Should have been yelling commands especially when you are both not familiar with each other
Whenever I need to take tension off the rope when lowering to clean I yell stop to avoid this situation. It does sound like this was due to belayer inexperience but extra communication never hurts
I was lowering someone at the gym and as they got close to the ground the rope went a little too fast and burnt my brake hand, causing my hand to reflexively let go and drop them the rest of the 2-3 feet onto the mat. No harm, but it scared me. Now I make sure to never apply any friction with the brake hand, and always use only the lever to adjust the friction (and usually wear a glove on top of that).
Even now... With so much good info out there, so many books, videos and case studies... Experienced climbers are still learning that holding onto the brake end of the rope is important! 🤦♀️
I watched a gym staff member use the “tunnel” method for TR belay on an ATC yesterday, where you loosen your grip on the brake to slide up the rope. Unbelayvable, as they say
Yes!!! Exactly!!! Maybe it would help if pro climbers started to lead by example!
@@somanayr And? Of course you use the tunnel method, because the hand is always on the break side of the rope and if something happens, your instinct closes your hand and tada, you hold the fall.
The other, older methos, always switching hands is a fuzz. It takes MUCH more time, it is annoying, there are so many more moves, which mean the chances of something going wrong is bigger than with tunnel method.
I suppose you refer to the method of switching hands being the method, because the break side of the rope is (should!) always gripped firmly, 100% of the time and with tunnel methos, it is NOT. Fair enough and I get the point.
Anyway: much more "complicated", annoying, time consuming and because of many more "moves" and therefore more time stress, the total chances of some imperfection when executing is way higher than messing up something when using tunnel method.
Of course when using a tube and in situations where there may be less friction in the system, you have to be careful at all times.
Which is the natural state when belaying anyways! If it's not, that person should not be allowed to belay because your live lies in this persons hands and that is a no joke.
@@haveawonderfulday279 Ondra 's belaying technique should be illegal
Complacency, always hold the break side of rope, doesn't matter whether your beginner, intermediate or advance! So glad you survived
i'd prefer you held the brake side
This reminds me when I got electrocuted by HV plasma arc, and few seconds later I stuck my hand in it again to better understand what just happened...:) Glad you are still with us Ben.
little nitpick : the word "electrocuted" implies you died
@@Splatpope No it doesn't you absolute zoomer tool
@@SplatpopeNo it doesn't
"Electrocution is death or severe injury caused by electric shock from electric current passing through the body. The word is derived from "electro" and "execution", but it is also used for accidental death."
the right word is "electrified"@@MrAsddasdasda
I'm using a tube (actively/passively) for more than 20 years and never had any sketchy situation. It isn't as comfortable as half automated belay devices, but that's exactly why I love it: It always educates you to be vigilant and focused and most importantly, hold onto the rope!
The only reason / time to „hold“ the grigri would be at the exact moment you give slack. Your right hand should never ever relax on the grigri when belaying. The other two points may have added to this but they were not the reason!
The exact moment you give slack is also one of the highest risk moments for falling....
@@skicreature You should still hold on to the brake side of the rope always. Just like with any other belay device. If you look at any of GriGri manuals or their video instructions on how to use it this is always the first and most important step of operating the device (and applies to every belay device I have ever used)
If you actually hold onto the brake side the device will lock. Even with skinny rope and being directly under the first bolt. Obviously as pointed out in the video the problem comes from the fact that most of the time it will lock even if you don't hold on properly so people can learn bad habits/get lazy.
@@doikor that’s my point though is that with the grigri even when you hold onto the brake side the device does not always lock if your hand is in the wrong position the device only reliably locks if your hand is below or in front. If your hand is to the side and back and introduces a curve into the rope then it does not lock. Furthermore as the rope tightens when your hand is in that position it can actually block engagement of the cam.
Now I think typically this is still rare requiring the right thinness of rope with right kind of stiffness. But if everything lines up correctly and you need to give a lot of slack while using a grigri and your climber falls I think there is significant risk. You can mitigate this by keeping your hands in front of the gri gri and only feeding out slack slowly but that’s not ideal for lead climbing.
@@skicreature You don't need the GriGri to lock to catch a fall though. The GriGri basically acts like tubalur device when the cam doesn't lock. You can weld the cam in place and it will still be safe to use if you use proper belaying. Thus there is no need to worry about whether it locks or not as it shouldn't matter if you are belaying properly.
@@zhanchi8727 No you can't. I've seen a belayer melt all the way through his leather belay gloves trying to hold a fall with the cam held down. There is not enough friction like there is with a tubular device.
Your channel and work it's freakin gold.
Wait... you fell almost the complete Route length, and then thought "Yeah Let's do that again!"?! Holy Shit you are fearless 😂
Nono, let's do half of that again... well "in my mind"
Glad you are okay. In my opinion, the way you hold the Grigri (if the same way as you belayer) prevents the grigri from auto locking. You should only use this hand position when needing to give slack quickly. Otherwise this should not be the way you are holding it !
yup. Petzl suggest you can use this grip if you want to depress the cam with your thumb to give slack quickly, but also tells you to return to your normal grip afterwards. Normal grip being, holding the break side of the rope below the grigri with your whole hand. Holding it like that the whole time is not recommended.
I nearly dropped my friend when he fell while giving slack. A design that fails when you give slack means that the design fails completely.
@@skicreature You don't need to use that grip. It is only supposed to be used sparingly in special cases. While this technique is being used, they are not protected from falling(which is the reason why it should only be used in special cases and should not be the norm).
When given slack normally, it will brake normally as well.
@@jort93z Problem is : it takes a while to go from the "normal" holding position to the "hand on grigri" position. You have to move your right hand up the rope and into the right position. So if the purpose is to give slack instantly with little to no anticipation, you will naturally tend to keep your hand on the grigri as shown in the video.
@@melkorWTF but then give slack the "normal" way and your right hand automatically comes up where you can easily switch to giving slack in the quick way by pressing down on the cam.
In case of emergency, let everything go except for the rope in your right hand and pull it down.
This is not a gri gri problem, but a bad belayer problem
If the belayer had been using an ATC-style device I imagine the outcome would have been very different....this video probably wouldn't be made.
Absolutely. But hopefully this video will provide some education and encourage personal accountability.
@@mvnclv So you're admitting that this is a belayer problem? After all, it's the belayer who wasn't belaying. She didn't use the proper belaying techniques to secure someone's life.
A belay device is there to assist you to belay someone. If not used as intended, you're not belaying.
100%! What in heavens world! Are you kidding me!? If he decked, that would be her fault, and her fault only, not gri’s!
There was a belayer problem, but it's a frighteningly common one when using this device. I don't let folks belay me with a Gri Gri anymore. I think they are shockingly bad. There's better products that don't require blocking the cam to lead belay and would be far safer. So this IS a Gri Gri problem and more should be aware that they're not as safe as other lighter, and all metal devices that don't require blocking the cam to pay out slack. Gri Gris need to stop being the go-to. There's safer, cheaper, and lighter devices.
I'm glad that you are safe. Thank you for relaying your experience. It just underscores that this is an "assisted" braking device and we still need to be diligent in holding onto the brake side of the rope.
Automagically is the best word I have heard in a long time; trusting that a device will independently perform as we believe it should, regardless of how it was designed to perform. Excellent video.
Glad you are safe! This was a perfect explanation for why we should always hold the break hand.
This is a clear example of why petzl does not recommend to belay that way. Petzl specifically says in the grigri instructions to only pinch the device while giving slack for a clip then return to a standard belay technique similar to the ATC.
Thanks for sharing your story and what you learned.
Mammut you mean. Then why not just use an atc? So much simpler...
@@pirminborer625 Mammut own Petzl?
@@pirminborer625 the grigri is made by petzl. There are numerous reasons why someone would want to belay with an abd like the grigri vs an atc.
@@pirminborer625 atc doesn't lock. In case the belayer fails, the risk of an accident is much higher.
@@svr5423if you hold the dead rope in the breaking position,it locks.
Glad you're safe! It would be interesting to see how large a part each factor played, maybe do an experiment isolating each issue. Especially the rope exit angle, I find that the most surprising.
That's why some people use the grigri upsidedown: the exit angle is always perfect
@@jordigrau83 Probably makes feeding slack more difficult though
I'm super glad you are still here to share those precious infos. Hope you are well now!
What a wonderful breakdown and way to take a frightening experience to educate others.
This is why for gym climbing I suggest you can’t pass a belay test without knowing how to do it on an atc, because with that device you learn “rope control”.
"don't get lazy, hold your rope" i'll print a shirt with that frase 👏 thanks for the info
@Vegan Pete ground happens. But it could lock maybe
@Vegan Pete you need to use both hands sometimes to give a slack though. But there’s Revo which would lock automatically if detects rope moves too quickly and should work without holding the end. Still, you are stuck on top of the wall, if there are only two of you climbing
So glad this was a 'learning' experience and not the other type of experience!
Im glad you are safe! Thank you for showing us this. As a new climber with the hope of learning how to belay this is information I'll remember forever!
Belaying is not super complicated. Takes a few hours to learn how to give and take slack and not be overwhelmed by watching nthe climber and handling the rope.
Sometimes there are situations where you have to address a specific situation by giving a softer catch or even a harder catch (maybe a ledge).
But the most important thing is to always stay focused and keeping the hand on the brake rope.
Long story short: It's not rocket science. Just build good habits and you will be fine for 99% of all climbing situations. Maybe don't get into super sketchy climbs shortly after you started belaying 😉
@@audiojck1 Ill keep this in mind! I'm learning how to belay in a gym and will practice belaying on smaller walls first and go from there!
This is exactly the reason why belayers shouldn’t hold the GriGri at all!! Only to give slack so the climber can clip and immediately let go the GriGri and hold the rope firmly down and backwards.
All of this is explained in the instructions manual that comes along with this equipment!
Keep posting these amazing lessons!! Wish you all the best and keep safe cause hard is easy!!
Cheers from Portugal🇵🇹
This is very interesting... as they say, usually accidents happen due to a combination of several factors. This a very precise situation with all those things, but still, can happen. Thanks for sharing.
So happy that you are alive. Thank you for the warning and the new video.
I'm glad you're safe man! Thanks for sharing, especially for the rope angle thing. It seems obvious once explained, but somehow I never thought about it...
Charly is right, it's a good thing you have a RUclips channel! Keep it up!
I've experienced this three years ago... but I haven't been as lucky as you and I've reached the ground. I fell from 8.5 m, but miraculously I didn't get injured. I have been very lucky. I sent my device to Petzl, cause I was very confused and quite convinced I had a defect unit but the device was tested and it turned out to work as per its design intent. But yeah because of misuse this can happen. People, distribute this video, which explains perfectly why that could happen, and use Grigri correctly just like any other belaying device. thanks for the video and sharing it!
Ben Thanks so much for sharing your experience and most of all I'm very happy that you're safe. Happy New Year
When you said that the force was "not that hard", you were probably talking about "jerk" (a real physics term - alternatively also "jolt") which means a change in acceleration - in the same way that acceleration is a change in speed.
Thanks for all the videos, am learning a lot!
Starting with position, the derivatives go acceleration, jerk, snap, crackle, and pop.
And yeah, higher derivatives like jerk make a difference in the perceived intensity of a force.
sudden
Very helpful analysis. Glad you’re ok!
Thank you for sharing. I knew that this could happen, but to see that in a video is quite surprising. Happy that you survived ♥️
Thanks for the safety alert. I’m happy your safe!
First rule I ever learned on belay, that you never forget .. is that the brake hand is your partners life line and that you never let go of it … ever! The tips on the rope angle feeding off the top of the Grigri are informative thank you!
Wow! Great video. I personally prefer the grigri as my belay device. Through the years of belaying my (precious) wife, I have created a system for the safest catch possible. I always have three fingers of contact with my belay hand. And my thumb is also back in contact once I've fed out some slack. I keep my slack to a minimum, paying strict attention to never short her as she climbs. I always wear a belay glove so as to make a hard grab of the rope in case the cam does not catch. I bought two way radios so we can more easily communicate to each other. This was a game changer. Our rope diameter is 9.8mm. So thick enough to more easily catch. And I tend to stand (when it makes sense) back just a bit to create that forward angle on the climbers side of the rope to more quickly engage the cam. This video you put up WILL save folk from injury, maybe even lives!!! Well done indeed!
That's how belaying should be done, regardless of the device used. I'm not entirely sure his videos will save lives though. Mankind really is stupid. The girl who belayed him is living proof...
Woah, thanks for sharing this. I'm glad you're okay
Thanks for sharing. Glad you are still alive!
that's why we have the brake-hand rule. Remember #2
The behaviour of the Gri-Gri in such situations is "well" known and as another commenter already pointed out, it's not an auto-belay.
glad your ok. the angle stuff is new to me. thanks for sharing the lesson
Thanks for sharing this experience! Glad you’re OK😅
Climbing guide since 1995 and really appreciate that clear explanation. you pointed out all the issues very well thank you! So in such a circumstance i often tie multiple bytes in the rope just incase such a thing would happen. im not fond of the new thin ropes and usually use 9.4 to 9.7 for that reason and often bend the rope over the stainless steel end instead of the side to get more byte! continue to be safe!
Amazing video as always. Thanks for this information!
We need to add the word "automagically" to the dictionary! Most descriptive word I've heard. Glad you're safe!! Thank you for the information!! I've not used the GriGri yet, but am considering getting one. Always good to know the device's faults ahead of time. Thank you!!
Thanks for addressing this finally. I've been waiting for someone to do this.
Great info and demonstration! I lost it though when you were like “Oh sh!t I almost had a ground fall and died, what the hell happened!… Let me climb back up and see if it happens again.” Lol!🤣
Thanks for another great episode
Thanks for sharing Ben!
thanks for sharing. It s good to be aware and mostly you are FINE. What a scary situation.
Thanks Isabel, I'm actually happy to discover this in this way so now everyone can know :)
Gahhhhh! I'm glad that didn't end as poorly as it almost did! Thanks for helping spread your hard-earned wisdom!
Great video, cinematography looks great on this one 👌🏻
understood and noted, grigri is only as safe as the hands and brain that use it... glad you weren't hurt
Fantastic, thank you!! Glad you came out ok.
Your channel is by far the best climbing channel on RUclips...to my knowledge!!
Excellent video. It may save someone’s life. Good job. Thank you.
I am so glad you made this video. There are still so many people who think that Assisted Braking Devices like the GriGri are "automatic" and they can let go of the rope.
You probably saved lifes with your video. Thanks buddy :)
"Semi-auto-block" is the terminology that originally was used and still applies. When I teach (or update) belay technique I always emphasize that rule 1 is to never let go of the brake strand-even when using an assisted braking device.
(This reality of how the Grigri works is also why seeing people dangle off of one without backup knots makes me want to scream. Read the manual!)
I was in the gym yesterday and saw a belayer belay with a grigri in a way where he pulled on the rope below the grigri to take out the slack, but then immediately fully let go of the rope, catching it somewhere higher. I'm not comfy with people using the grigri or mammut smart to belay me anymore, to be honest. especially indoors.
@@sonaivanovicova7638 You should always trust your belayer regardless of the device they're using... Grigris and Smarts are perfect belay device for both the climber and the belayer when used properly.
Thanks for this video! Every belayer using a Grigri should see this. It drives me crazy to see how many people, newbies and seasoned climbers alike, get so careless when belaying with a Grigri! I have also witnessed a similar situation myself (though it was related to also pressing down on the cam, so an even worse belayer error! ) which resulted in ca 15m fall that was stopped 2 or 3 meters above ground.
Thank you so much for sharing this!
I tell this to people all the time. Thanks for spreading this info.. I will share this.
Always a pleasure to see a new video! Glad you're safe!
New video gear btw?
This is exactly why I give normal slack using the “snow shovel” as you would for an ATC. This is the technique that Petzl officially recommends as it reduces the margin of error quite a bit. Unfortunately, gyms these days are not teaching this and accidents follow. The only time you should ever press the cam down is to give clipping slack quickly.
Exactly. Our gym showed us both methods.
Unfortunately, they had another issue: I was repeatedly told to give more slack, let the rope loose and jump up with the fall while my climber was clipping the first and second express. I'm sure had the climber taken a fall, he would have impacted the ground.
Vertical World Seattle chooses to charge for Gaswerks method, and will not let you take the lead test if your default is the recommended method. This gym also didn't research auto belay companies and dropped someone off the ceiling... soooo trying to find a different gym and get a refund on my punch pass.
Gyms should ONLY instruct the Petzl method or not allow the gri-gri, I now know not to trust anyone who was trained with gaswerk method.
That's actually very useful. Thank you!
Thanks for sharing that information. Often when we climbers/belayers get too comfortable it get's dangerous...
Good reminder - I had this happen at a climbing wall where the rope had friction from the wall and was quite new, coming from a atc background I always grab the rope. That said if a fall happens unexpected when giving rope their is a inbetween time when the gri gri needs to work . I would say that it’s rare that I haven’t grab the right rope and the times when it does happens surprises me. Thanks for vid I will be checking my belayers especially with thin ropes
I've been using a Revo for a few years now. My gut feeling is it's safer and promotes proper belay technique. The Revo locks if the rope exceeds a set velocity. It doesn't really matter what angle the rope comes from. With the Revo you have to belay properly. In a fall the locking operation is a back up and indicates you didn't belay correctly so you can learn from your mistakes.
Have you ever had the Revo’s breaking mechanism kick in on a fall that the belayer didn’t catch fast enough? I like the idea of the revo but it’s hard to find real life data on how quickly it catches/how far the climber falls before it does
In our training for beginners, they told us over and ober again to never let our Brake Hand from the Rope, to always form a "tunnel" around the rope. Even with a Grigri. Thanks for showing us why!
Very good presentation and thank you for sharing your experience with us.
Classic complacency doing it's work. Be careful out there! It's important to remind yourself that climbing is a risky sport and your life can change (or stop) from one single mistake.
Thank you so much!👍👍👊
Thank you so much for your video! This is why you return your brake hand to your side whenever not feeding slack, if you need to hold the cam to feed slack quickly. Not resting on the device. Just as Petzl advises on proper use of their product.
Always very interesting.... Thanks
Very interesting, glad you're safe!
I love how you say Grigri btw haha
Sooo.. basically you need to have a belayer that actually holds the rope? Right I thought that was belaying 101
Yikes! very good information. Glad you are ok!
Holy S**** After all your videos I'm definitely convinced to only use my reverso-like belaying device. And in multipitch I'll be much more used to use that device.
That's why I prefer reverso style belay devices. I only witnessed accidents with grigri up to now. Grigri is tricky to give slack, always hold the rope, press the thumb, can't rappel or double rope. It is marketed towards beginners but needs much experience.
You are right!!! Thanks for sharing man!!!!!!!!!!!
thanks for ur investigations and sharing!
Great video to remind us to stay point why’ll belaying. Doesn’t matter what we use. Thank you.
Couldve just titled the video "never let the brake hand off the rope"
In that case I would have to many videos with the same name :D
@@HardIsEasy Too*
Thank you for sharing your story
Cool video as always. I'm glad to see you realise this is not a grigri issue, but a belayer issue. Whoever was belaying you that day and failed to hold you twice (!) needs to reconsider their choices.
Soooo…..don’t hold Grigri like a teacup?
Thanks for sharing!
I'm glad you are well. Holding the grigri is not holding the rope. HOLD THE ROPE, also 🤘🏽
Great video, thank you.
Scary and interesting, thanks for sharing this
Very very interesting! Thx for th info!!! Good trail for everyone!!
I mean I'm glad youre ok but why the hell isn't your belayer hanging onto the brake side?
Keep up your work and posting your findings mate!
I have a friend who is very convinced the GriGri is the be all and end all for belay devices, with misconceptions of its capabilities. The irony is how much they stress on every safety factor when climbing despite this inherently dangerous sport. Hopefully one day they see this and can have an open mind, especially regarding other devices on the market that can achieve the same as the GriGri.
I'm quite fond of my grigri. But the first time I went climbing outside I bought a micro jul, simply because grigri doesn't support twin ropes.
@@svr5423 My mates and I love our Megajuls, simple passive mechanical beauty.
Depending on the climbing day we are doing, we choose our device accordingly. Always fun to play with different gear 😁
I have a friend just like this too. I asked what they thought of the various passive ABDs and to them the GriGri is the answer for everything :/
You took a second fall on purpose and the belayer almost dropped you a second time? Holy Cow, that belayer needs to watch your videos my friend! Glad you are OK.
Glad you're ok champ
So true and TY for the sharing. I just experienced same kind of story with the Mega Jul from Edelrid !
Thanks for sharing!!
In addition to all the amazing content on this channel, I couldn't help but notice that the production quality in this video is next level, too: nice depth of field as well as tasteful color grading with the autumn-y greens. Getting ready for the European outdoor film tour with your cinema film crew? :)
Also your sponsor will be pleased to hear that me and my friends predominantly buy Mammut gear now ever since you started featuring them here. So yeah, the marketing strategy works, I hope your side of the deal is reasonably profitable, too. :)
Thank you, and keep up the good work!
haha I doubt these film festivals want to learn about GriGri :)))) But hey thanks for the comment ;)
Will pass along to Mammut for sure 😊