Alright everyone it’s been a bit over a week and some things have changed. This video did so much better than I ever could’ve imagined and I’d like to thank each and everyone of you for commenting on here, regardless of whether or not you agreed with me. That being said there’s no way I could possible take all the info from the comments and compile them so instead I’ll be making a list of notable things you guys have brought up in the comments. - I completely forgot to mention how indie games still remain soulful and inspired, Chxse and I did bring it up in our conversation but I couldn’t work it into a segment. Notable indie games recommended by you guys include: Hades, Celeste, cuphead, hollow knight - I also did honestly forget to mention the wii, snes, and switch, not any malicious intent, just two consoles I didn’t have a ton of experience with. -Some of you requested a few cites for the statistics I pulled so heres a nice list -newzoo.com/global-gamer-study -www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players/ -www.bankmycell.com/blog/video-game-industry-revenue Remember people if you disagree with me, this is my opinion and I just wanted to provide an interesting thought experiment. If you still enjoy games the same way I’m happy for you above anything else Thank you all for the support, next video should be out in a few weeks
While not the specific point of the video, the best selling games of the year were also included (allegedly with correct years) so it just seemed a glaring oversight to have so many of the console release years be wrong in the console timeline that was referenced several times. NA release years for the big 3: nes------1985 gboy-----1989 (handheld) snes------1991 n64------1996 gboyc-----1998 (handheld) gcube------2001 (first online capable) gboya-----2001 (handheld) nds-----2004 (handheld) (online capable) wii------2006 3ds-----2011 (handheld) wiiu------2012 switch------2017 (hybrid) psx------1995 ps2------2000 (first online capable) psp-----2005 (handheld) (online capable) ps3------2006 psvita-----2012 (handheld) ps4------2013 ps5------2020 xbox------2001 (first online capable) xb360------2005 xbone------2013 xbx/s------2020
Very good points in the video overall! Few major points I would like to add which have been affecting my enjoyment over the years and others whether they know it or not is that these days with so many choices when it comes to games fomo is definitely a thing and I would emphasize that it's important to be honest and play what you enjoy and what resonates with you and peaks your interest. Tastes change all the time and we want new experiences so what is enjoyable to each and everyone differs vastly, it's easy to get carried away playing whatever "everyone" considers is good and feel fomo for not playing those games and you ignore other possibly better games for you. With so many options It's important to start with the realization that it's important to be picky and honest. If the game doesn't get you excited to begin with even when others think it is the best thing ever and tell you it is a must play don't feel bad for skipping it and not even trying it. There's no obligation for you to give any game a chance. If a game you got excited for feels like a chore even after giving it a proper shot don't feel bad for walking away and not finishing it. Same goes the other way around if you enjoy something overall don't constantly jump to the next thing instead stick with it. With so many games it can be hard to simply just pick what you like and play that. When you get excited for a game and find that game you enjoy don't look over the shoulder and constantly consider if there's something better out there but enjoy what you're doing fully momen to mement! Also like mentionee in the video I personally find there's a sweetspot to how much each individual can play and fully enjoy. Taking the necessary time to enjoy life itself is the fuel you need to enjoy and love games. Don't feel fomo for not playing or immediately jumping to the next thing. In short: Give your time and the games you play more value, be picky, play less and enjoy what you're doing fully! I'm 30 now, I don't play as much as before but I'm happy to say that I enjoy games as much if not more than I ever have at the moment :)
I agree with pretty much everything and all of this applies to me (in various amounts). I was 12 when I got the original NES, and what a time that was. I had school, friends, and video games. The last two were most often very much intertwined. A few other aspects is that there was far less competition for our gaming time. I played Super Mario Bros. until was a speed runner, because there wasn't that much else to compete for my time with that game. I felt that was true up until the PS2 era where there was starting to be too many games to play and I had to choose which I'd sink time into. Today, I feel torn playing any game because I feel bad that I'm not playing something else. I don't want to play the sequel to a game before I played the prior one. That is too much stress for a hobby like gaming. I've gotten around this now, but it did affect me for years. Another aspect of these older games is that there was less technology to compare to. Having a home console was a privilege for the longest time. There was nothing else like it. One of the few on-demand activities you could do alone. TV was broadcast so you had to be there on the day and time to watch your shows. Yes, there was VHS or DVDs as time went on, but the choices weren't so many. Today, we have access to nearly every TV show, movie, album, song, or video game, with just a few clicks and seconds. I do remember thinking that the updates we started to see in the PS3/360 era as the fundamental change to gaming. The updates (especially the day 1 patch) meant that you could never be sure you'd be playing the same game from day to day patches for game breaking bugs is great, of course). The biggest change is the corporatization of the industry. Games are no longer art the way they once were. They are live service, or bloated full of checklists of repetitive tasks (I love Ubisoft, but DANG did they have some nasty effects on games!). Is gaming in a bad place now? Not really. But this age of high technology ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Question, what is the game at 19:00 ?
yeah, i still go back and play old nes/snes/playstation games i never played and can get lost in them, i can still get lost in the sims games - i'm 44 and have 6 kids, it's not that I've changed, gaming has become political, and nothing but a 'i'll sell you part of the game now and maybe sell you more later, good luck trying to play it without the dlc and patches that we may or may not release!' I want an escape from life for a few hours, not a reminder that people see me as nothing more then a wallet with legs
Squeeze every last dollar out of us while pushing woke narratives. DICE over there just like "if you don't agree with handicap chicks on the frontlines and black Nazis then don't play the game"
I was born in 1988. I grew up with the NES and N64. The types of games available have obviously definitely changed in the AAA sphere. Now, AAA studios rarely make 2D platformers, for example. Then there's the rise of the indie scene. But the feel of gaming did not change for me until the mid 2010's. Probably around 2014. When loot boxes and microtransactions overtook AAA. The quality of games flatlined, and making extreme profits became the only goal. Soul and the drive to entertain customers was lost. And so many games show that these days.
@@goosewithagibus aside from that ik what hes saying there was a very diffrent feel to gaming after the xbox one/ ps4 came out ps3 and 360 and before was peak gamin
Seemed like at least with the Ps2 era, more chances were being taken. A lot more "controversial" studios and games (Playboy Mansion, anybody?). Seemed like devs were saying "alright, let's see what this baby can do, and what happens if we change the fuel with dynamite". Then like you said, it became about profits. Risks had to be halved, couldn't piss off 3/4 of the population now that that population are paying for the $10mil programs used. Indie devs pretty much have to come in and don the early-Rockstar robes, make a "Grand Theft Auto" to shake everything up, but in a scene where investors throw money and also determine apparently when a game is to launch whether its ready or not. And now everything has to have the newest tech, the newest feature, the newest innovation, that games feel like they're being pumped out as to always catch the train of trends - even if the only change to the actual game itself is a new reskin.
there are so many quality gems in the indie scene for platformer/2d "celeste" is fkin incredible. and this year released "Rusted Moss" is amazing, it is a metroidvania but you have a attachable bungie cord/rubber band/grappling hook with actual elasticity/physics that allows you constant sequence breaking and crazy platforming. and there is couple First person perspective ones that i forgot the names of. indie scene is always the go-to if you are looking for something like this. wanna play OG classic old school ResidentEvil style games? indie devs got you- "Nightmare of decay" (basically resi1 but fps , polished well designed and masterfully crafted, easy recommend) , "SiGNALiS" an absolute gem, "Evil Tonight"(RE but GBA style), "You will d^e tonight" and upcoming "Holstin" u want 2d action side scroller or metroidvanias ? 2023 is stacked with incredible metroidvanias Afterimage, Blasphemous2, Rusted Moss (also Tevi , Last faith, 9 years of shadow, Eibnezar etc) and upcoming year is gonna be great with Silksong, Crowsworn, Ninesols. and Indie fps reteo sh00ter is thriving too, for example from 2023's are: Dread Templar, Cultic ( ep 1.5), Turbo Overkill, Killbug, Ultrak^ll (act3), Forgive me Father2 , Roboquest, DUSK (HD edition) , De@dlink, Trepang2 , Incision ep2(underrated), ion Fury:Aftershock and there are incredible ones such as original DUSK, Ion Firy, Cultic, Amid Evil , Hrot, Project warlock2 etc that released over the years for immersive sims you got absolute best ones such as Ctrl Alt EGO, Cruelty Squad. and also see Amnesia The bunker (is this indie?) Sytem Shock remake, Divine eye cybermancy, Gloomwood
Boom. My cousin tries to tell me that I play the “boring” games which are just fun story games. Meanwhile he’s been playing 2k and multiplayer cods for YEARS😂😂😂
I realized this is a big factor. Games have changed but at different points. But the main factor that ruined different games was a giant change into removing what was fun in the game to begin with. -> Uncharted went to a down system instead. ->GTA became a mess of alot of issues. -> WWE&FIFA Became alot more limiting and removing creative capabilities over time to focus on minigame vcurrency stuff. -> RPG's though some are great in every generation its always atleast 1 great RPG every year. The wish is for more better games. So i realized if we talking offline games we missed having fun games that make you wanna spend hours either due to creative options or content options. When it comes to online games we miss the simplicity and the quickness of stuff. Should load and be quick to finish matches and the simple shooter needs to keep it simple. But nowadays shooters have some jump/power abilities/flying component/bullet sponge to it. Been playing Last of us factions as the last good normal shooter for the last 10+ years since Uncharted 3 & Old Metal Gear Onling 3 servers got shutdown. I fear what else is next, if there is NO normal shooter anymore without abilities.
Gaming changed when most devs switched to the games as a service model. Now they try to keep you artificially grinding by getting you addicted so they can squeeze more money out of you. Instead of back when devs had to produce meaningful content to earn money. Games have become worse, because the thought process behind game development changed from "what can we do that's so fun that it's worth playing over and over" to "how expensive can the skins be that we produce and still find people who buy them"
That’s just AA and AAA games not to mention they get that woke money loan but the same thing that ruined movies and tv series ruined gaming it’s called ESG scoring
There’s a very rare breed that still asks that first question AND is an ongoing game with new content coming for many years and god, it’s amazing. A game that’s not one and done forever but that also doesn’t try relentlessly to duck your money down with no care for you? The BEST
Even if I wanted to I don’t have time to keep up with that. Many older gamers like myself will give up on gaming because it feels like an endless pursuit just trying to finish one game you like. I miss the days you bought a game, enjoyed it, beat it and displayed it proudly on your shelf to relive another day.
There was a noticeable drop in quality right around 2013. I feel there is gaming pre GTA V and post GTA V. At this point in time I have very little interest in e sports and to be honest I feel most of the gaming community does as well. Getting out of the hyper competitive scene helped me enjoy gaming more. I still occasionally go to smash locals but I know I’m no MCleo.
@@darklinkduck2275 2013 really is when there was this shift. Look at developers like Naughty Dog and Rockstar who were firing on all cylinders pre 2013. We got entire franchises on a single console like Uncharted 1-3/TLoU1, Resistance 1-3, Gears of War 1-3, GTA 4/5/Red Dead/Max Payne 3/LA Noire, BioShock 1/2/Infinite - all within a 7 year span. Then the mindset shifted and now studios need to make everything cinematic and take an entire console generation's worth of time to squeeze anything out. I made the call years ago after the Sony acquisition that Insomniac was no longer going to be able to march to the beat of their own drum, but rather become the Spiderman Studio. The recent Insomniac leaks proved me right. So not only is there an emphasis on cinema over fun, but creativity has also gone to the wayside
The later half of the seventh generation is when I first saw massive problems brewing in the gaming circle. Guess who was leading the charge? EA of course. Anybody remember Mass Effect 3 day one DLC?
I believe its becasue of mobile gaming and microtransactions. Game studios quickly realized that the real money maker wasn't selling the game, but selling in-game content. Sure they can sell you a $60 shooter game, but the real money maker is getting that player to drop $300 on battle passes, and another $400 on camos, skins etc. Why bother making a functional and innovative game when you can just get someone to buy skins?
yeah, but they're only lazy and greedy because people still pay them, they get rewarded if they put in effort or not - if people stop buying incomplete games on day one and demand a demo, the laziness will disappear over night
True. Back in the day if you were lazy and greedy producing shitty games that was the end for you. Nobody could afford to fuck up and make a terrible game on purpose. Quality and creativity was everything now everyone is half assing with patches & fixes or constant DLC packs you gotta pay for.
I'm 49 and still love gaming. I have a normal life with a job, wife and now adult children. I started with Atari and have always gamed. I guess I started because I hated my childhood and it was an escape for me. It still is but as I get older, I find it as a way to keep my mind moving and have fun too. Gaming has declined mostly because of greed to me. It's about microtransactions more than just having a soul and knowing someone or some group put their heart and soul into a game for others.
I agree. I'm 51 and I've always just played games for fun. I still do, and I still like the same kind of games, I just have less time to play than when I was a kid. I have a pretty beefy PC now and I love the way new games look and sometimes feel. The corporate greed is just what makes me sick now. If I buy a game, I want to play it right then, I don't want to wait for 5 patches. I shouldn't have to, they should have quality control. Even though Baldur's Gate 3 has had a ton of hotfixes, I was still able to complete the game once right when I bought it. Yeah, there were some bugs but they weren't game-breakers for me. And Larian was able to do that because they are a private company and are not beholden to corporate publishers like EA. That's why that the games coming out now, I'm not a huge fan of (except for BG3, I've been playing that non-stop since it came out). Plus, being over 50 makes the controllers harder for me to handle lol. But I never played for competitiveness or achievements. I play to have fun, distract myself for a while, and get lost in a game. That's why I've always played games, and it's still why I play games. I only play single-player games because I don't want to "compete" in a game. Give me a good story with some good visuals and I'm happy.
I had a great childhood also and grew up with the Atari 2600 and all the other retro consoles. I’m 49 now and just can’t seem to get into gaming anymore. I literally force myself to play and I do but then I get bored. I’m thinking I’m just getting old
@abgreenlantern1 you just haven't discovered the right game. I am also 49, played since Atari. There are games I will not play or purchase such as call of duty, madden (insert yr after 2012), but even at my age, there are 2 sets of games that I will always go back to. One, is the mass effect trilogy, the original The Last of Us, and the Final Fantasy 7 remake which will be a trilogy soon. Those games are simply fantastic with great stories that really get to you, tough battles, and have a real way of bringing people in.
Old man here, 58 and I started with pong then Atari, Sega Ps1 2 3 4 and finally three months ago the PS5 slim. I am constantly amazed by how good the graphics keep getting and the stories that pull me in like Last of Us or GOT. I marvel at the detail of waterfalls or the ocean in a game which makes me pause to just look at the scenery. I’ve watched cities and NPGs come alive with games like GTA and RDR2. I had an old friend I hadn’t seen in years come over recently and he made the comment of “ you still play video games? “ I popped in RDR2 and his jaw dropped in disbelief. Maybe if you grew up playing awesome games then the bar has already been set high but for me I’m still being impressed with the advancement games are making. I’m now getting ready to play the new Harry Potter game and lose myself in the detail from what I’ve already seen on RUclips.
Age has nothing to do with it, I'm the same age as you and have 16hr sessions 4 times a week. I causing all nighters. Game game game. But I feel in your case....you have not (yet)come across a game you click with. Let's see what's released and I hope you find one you enjoy :)
Being in my mid 30s, I can pinpoint almost exactly when games started to get lame to the late PS3 to PS4 era. This was when the corporate influence got extremely heavy. Instead of taking chances and trying new stuff, it was copying what worked or chasing trends. I think the appeal to a wider audience killed it too. Instead of making a game for your core audience, devs had to make games that appealed to everyone. I've recently been revisiting old classics and other stuff I missed when it first came around. It's much more appealing than the current slop pushed out now.
I always like to say that the decline of the game industry is because it finally became a proper industry. The graduation from video games being more niche to a household thing is where shit hit the fan
I'm exactly the same.. I've been playing games that originally released early PS4 era that I never got round to playing and am thoroughly enjoying them more than new releases.
Same. Returned to my favorite game growing up, Battle for Middle Earth 2. What a game that is, an absolute blast and I forgot how fun games used to be until I played this again. Besides, you can play old games for the rest of your life considering how many great ones that have been released. I see no point in looking for new games anymore, it's just expensive and bad. Even the new "masterpieces" that many consider them, I find them boring and pretty average.
For me that was Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World. There's something magical about uncovering your dinky playtoy from 2005 and being even more impressed about how much fun could be packed into it. I'm somehow more excited to authentically expreience Mario Kart Super Circuit for the first time, than I am to pay full price for Gotham Knights.
They had those games back then too. Those were mostly RPG games. 15 minutes of video and 2 minutes of fighting followed with 10 more minutes of video. The final fantasy remake though wasn't too bad. Maybe a couple minutes of video and then back into the action and doing things. It was like that back in the day though and probably why I played that one. The cut scenes weren't that long.
I was born in 1981… and I feel as soon as trophies and achievements were added to consoles/gaming everything changed… you no longer wanted to play a story driven rpg or a single player adventure game for fun or escapism… you played it for the trophies… the achievement score… to be better than your friends and online strangers… or at the very least… “as good as them”
Gotta get that 100%, even if it's not fun. Miss one in the middle? Hmm, then I'd have to play it again.. Maybe I should just check the list beforeha- aaand there's spoilers in there. Thanks guys. But at least I know I'm supposed to shoulderbash 10 enemies with the machinegun rocket launcher mech. Not one of course. 10. Heaven forbid you accidentally got it by actually playing the game normally. Gotta make it a 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙧𝙚.
I’m 28. Games died for me when I realized I was chasing a dopamine hit. The evolution of the internet / Social media opened up my perspective on life and myself quite dramatically. I love gaming still but almost entirely for nostalgia. I had a lot of trauma in my childhood so I 100% used video games to escape reality. I’ve healed most of that trauma now and I am finding more enjoyment in simple things like walking around in nature, listening to music, and doing yard work / gardening. The key for me was to figure out what I was running from within myself. Addressing that has radically altered my perception of everything and enabled me to return to the present moment / have fun. Love yourself first. All else is seeking to steal your joy.
devs and publishing companies have become egregiously lazy, incompetent and greedy and it will continue to become worse with new monetization methods and Ai replacing actual content, innovation and fun
@@SnoFitzroy yea, it’s the corporate higher-ups who don’t know the first thing about game development saying the game needs to be finished in 15 minutes
@@SnoFitzroy Actually a lot of devs these days are too lazy to code and bugfix things that would take 15 minutes, plenty of senior game devs call out modern devs for this
Prime gaming was when you went to a store to buy a game. Now you go to a game and look at a store. Cosmetics should all have to be earned and grinded for not bought.
My dad is 71 and I’m 22, we just started playing dk country last night. I’ve played it before with my brothers, but it’s been awhile. We only played for an hour, but I got more joy and fun out of that game than most modern games, and it’s 30 years old
For me the reason is: since im an adult and have bills and responsibilities, i cant help but feel guilty when I game. My brain just yells at me that i have better things to be doing. Cleaning the house, taking my car to the shop, doing side work etc. i miss the old days 😪
Same for me. I've tried plan PTO from work so I could try to feel justified for immersing myself into a fantasy world of gaming and still couldn't do it :(
@@ThaRealest616 i also hate when (im VERY susceptible to binge-playing Minecraft) I decide to play Minecraft and try to limit myself to 1-2hrs after work, and before I know it im playing it all night and all day during my weekend and getting nothing done..
Damn I guess I’m group zero, a 40+ year old that grew up in the Atari era. I personally believe that gaming really started to change pretty recently at the start of live service phenomenon.
Yeah, once the PS4 and Xbox One came out I totally lost interest in console gaming. I saw the trend coming when I had an Xbox 360 and decided to just avoid the new (at the time) consoles. Saved all the money I would have blown on a PS4/Xbox One and used it to get a nice PC and never looked back.
I found that early MMORPGs were the best prior to the introduction of microtransactions. For example, early Runescape (like first 2-3 years of release), Dransik, Anarchy Online, early WoW. However, a large portion of the fun in those games were the social atmosphere (i.e. playing with friends/family). That said, microtransactions also kill those games because they act as barriers for friends/family who can't afford $300 worth of content just to play the game. For non-MMOs, storyline/gameplay mechanics have completely disappeared for the most part. Games are released early and with a plethora of bugs.
I'm 45, been playing games most of my life. For me it actually feels like games purposely keep you in their game with grind, or super large words that waste time.
That was the biggest problem I had with FF7 remake. Great game if condensed but so much pointless filler and boring dungeon sections you need to spend half an hour just walking through. Half assed side missions that add nothing. Game would have been 10x better being half as long without all that.
@@wout123100 Enjoy mindless filler? I'd have enjoyed it and not thought it a waste of time if it was more entertaining or purposeful. I shouldn't have to 'change my mindset' to enjoy half assed content. They have proved they can do it with REBIRTH which is frankly fantastic. Don't make excuses for lazy devs and publishers that charge $70 for a game they artificially extended without effort. That's what's wrong with the industry today.
Every time I get back into gaming I get this sense that I’m wasting my time. That none of the accomplishments really matter and the time I’m putting into it could be spent doing better things. I look back at the thousands of hours I put into gaming from 18-22 and I get the sense that I wasted my potential on something which doesn’t even matter
I kind of agree with you. I am 33 and just got back into gaming, picked up a Switch OLED and finally played Breath of the Wild for the first time, it was definitely fun and not a waste of time in my opinion. I think those mindless online multiplayer games like Fortnite, Call of duty warzone with no story behind it are the real time wasters. Single player games are like playing through a movie
I don't know.......I spent way too much time playing final fantasy tactics and soul caliber 4....but I still have fond memories.... The storyline to ff6 and 7 will stick with me forever......ff4s golbez theme is still awesome to hear for me.... You could spend it on better or more productive pursuits sure....but it's not wasted time like tiktok or sitcoms are.
@@paulc1014all games are a waste of time what is you talking about grandpa? You think breath of the wild is gonna help you earn money? Can’t believe you’re that old and with that mentality
100%. What can you do with an old nes/snes/gameboy/gba/ps1? Play games. What else? Well, ps1 plays music cd's, but that's it. New consoles? Play games, watch youtube, surf the net, they're trying to be computers. I love my steamdeck because it's a gaming machine, nothing more - no pop ups, no ads, no notifications, no emails, no 'sign up for subscription' bs, just install your game, configure and play
Alan Wake 2, The Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Forbidden West, Baldurs Gate 3 are just a few examples of really great games of the last few years, all have great gameplay, graphics and stories, yall are just so dramatic
seriously, there so waaay too many games to get through now. we all dont have enough time to get to them all. if anything, I think too many games are way too long now with way too much filler content. it's hard for me to even start a game that I know is 40+ hours unless it's from my favorite franchises because I want to be able to finish my games. i'd rather have a game around 20-25 hours that was fleshed out and was high quality all the way through than a game double that length padded out with unnecessary grind or tasks that are a chore to play
Indeed. One of the best parts of enjoying a game is reaching the end knowing you’ve seen it all and beaten it. If it was great, you’ll go back to relive it at some point. If not you can sell it on. Most games today are dragged on with DLC you’ll never get in physical format that you have to keep buying to feel like you’ve got the most from a game
🚨 *The main reason gaming feels boring now is the overwhelming abundance and easy access to games.* 🚨 In the early 2000s, acquiring games required effort, like traveling across the city to buy a CD or DVD. With the rise of affordable internet, we can now download any game instantly. If a game doesn't impress us quickly, we move on to another one. Additionally, modern gaming PCs have huge storage capacities, unlike the limited 40GB hard drives of the past, allowing us to store countless games. This limitless selection creates confusion and reduces the time we spend enjoying any single game.
Wasn't just Golden Eye, this stayed even into the first xbox and ps2 era. We used to have massive LAN parties with our entire group of friends and play the original Halo on the giant plasma tvs that were fatter than fridges. Had to put the players on the same tv on the same teams to keep people from screen peaking. Also did Smash Bros Melee and all sorts of good ass games. Just can't have those kinds of experiences anymore.
I think there are lots of reasons to explore here but as someone who grew up in the 80s and whose first console was the NES, I think there are so many fewer risks taken today, because it's far too expensive to take risks. Sequels and safe ideas take priority in this day and age.
I disagree, what takes priority in this day and age is the in-game store. That above all things. Notice how no matter what is broken, no matter what is bugged, the store always seems perfectly smooth? Then comes safe ideas.
@@skylarc6063 Well, I actually COMPLETELY agree with you so I'm not sure that you actually disagree with me, it's just I was talking less about infrastructure-type things and more about game design ideas.
@@goods1224 Of course that's when sequels became a thing then. But there were SO many more new IPs then. Sequels were there but they were the minority by far. For every sequel there were 30 original IPs.
I’m in my 50’s and I started with an Atari. In an OG gamer I guess, and I’m still playing. For me, the best time was 2 player co-op gaming. You sat on the couch with friends, hung out, and just had fun. I also used to challenge myself more in 1p mode. I had to play on the hardest settings and max out everything. I no longer do that to myself. I stay on easy mode and just chill. I just can’t believe sometimes that I went from pinball machines and Pac Man in the arcades to RDR2. I can’t wait to see how far VR headsets will push things.
Late 40's here. Recently fired up some Atari Combat with my visiting brother. The tanks with the ricocheting bullets was always our favorite setting...played that for hours and still as fun as it was in the early 80's!
I'm 29 and I remember pinball, arcade machines and I remember the old consoles before Playstaiton and I remember Playstation 1. I also remember when world of War craft was the first major online game everyone together in minus second life and the Sims. Gaming was truly in a golden age by then
I'm 42 and no, the gaming doesn't feel the same as like 25 years ago even though I play a lot even now 😀 One of the biggest difference is that for years I have grown really impatient when it comes to trial and error in games. Back in the days it didn't matter if I got stuck in the games - like in RPG's and spent like hours and sometimes days wondering around until I found out solution or where to go. It didn't matter if I couldn't beat some boss and it took me like 100 tries. But for quite some time I feel that I don't have time for that nonsense because I have job, a family, friends etc. And in games I wanna enjoy the story and feel moderate challenge but not get caught by some situation where the diffculty spike is super hard and I would have to grind gazillion times to pass. So now once I have been stuck for some time I just look up a solution or guide online. So that is basically a thing that was also said in video that the gaming changes when you start to have a lot of responsibilities. Its because theres so much stuff to do and so little time - as we get older we tend to value the time more and more. One thing that comes with age and lot of gaming experience is that you get way more critical towards the games. This means if the game is weak you just don't waste your time on it. But if you only wan't to play the masterpieces then that obviously leads to "there no good games to play". Also for a kid whos first assassins creed game is Assassins creed 13 it may be fun but for someone like myself who has played the series from beginning its more like "jesus christ, they keep churning out the same shit every year". Secondly, yes the games HAVE changed. For example nowdays I don't believe people use their imagination nearly asmuch as we used to. I mean there are exceptions like minecraft but I mean generally. If your character is made of 10 pixels and the world looks bad and pixelated then you start to imagining in your head what something or someone would look like. Nowdays to don't have to - detailed and pretty picture is in your face. Also in games like Skyrim - in our heads we all created story and morality for our characters - some played noble - I don't steal, I protect the weak etc. others were like total dicks. We chose in wich city we wanted to live in and hoard loot etc. and all that was for some reason we created in our head. Also I have to agree that the games have shifted way more towards competitive side and competitive side means that everybody have to be equal. Remember back in the days - in real time strategy games the different sides were rarely equal, in fighting games the characters were rarely equal. But that was okey because we played for fun. Nowdays theres those über pro level players and sometimes it feels that the game is made for them in the first place meaning that that game is lacking for casual players - if youre not pro and investing a lot of time and effort then you can't enjoy the best parts in game. Lets take Diablo 4 for example - even before the game was out we had a websites with calculated builds where computer takes into account all the items and special abilities and then crunches the numbers and suggests the best builds. So right of the bat people playing started to work towards certain goal and not discovering the aspects of game themselves. So yeah, major problem is that the games should be fun and stress relievers but often when you boot up the game and trying to be good at it it creates even more stress.
Read ur whole comment and I enjoyed all of it. You explained and summarized what everyone else said too. Also what sucks for even RPG’S is people gatekeep shit. When elden ring came out, people already yelled at you if you used summons, didn’t 1v1 bosses, didn’t use items, a d just didn’t let you play how you wanted to play. Also, The metas of games just end up killing it. They only use X weapon or Y build and it ruins the game for any player but pros or sweats tbh.
I'm 54. I'm old. I'm tired. The world around me has changed. I've changed. I don't care about anything like I used to. I take lots of meds now for psychological problems. I used to be able to sink into games and disappear into those worlds, live in those moments. I've almost completely lost that ability. It's not the games. It's me. It's everything. The life had bled out of life.
You are not alone in that feeling or situation. All my friends in our age group feel the same. Now I mostly just watch RUclips videos of people playing the old games to get the nostalgic feel. That said, there are some old games on Steam and Epic Games for us. I played Thimbleweed Park and the new Monkey Island recently.
@@norwegianberserkerbear8227 Thank you :) I've found myself doing that: instead of playing, just numbly watching people playing through Deus Ex or other old games that used to mean the world to me. Ya know...whatever, whatever. The specific titles, I guess, don't really matter. I get these passing feelings I can't quite grab onto, shadows of the magic, transformative gaming feeling I can almost remember. It's bittersweet, but in that detached, semi-numb way - like waking up from a half-remembered dream. There's so much loss in life. Loss, in a way, defines life as we get older - because, after a certain point, there's only decay: nothing new or exciting is added. We only lose things. We're left to watch - helpless against the inevitability - as all we had and all we were falls away piece by piece, that slow disintegration. I found myself playing 7 Days to Die endlessly, although I guess it could've be any game without a real narrative that's just focused on mechanics. And after thousands of hours I felt so lost and hated myself - and yet I kept on playing, grinding the loss, pushing it deeper. I can't feel anything now. And that extends across all aspects of life, with the lessening exception of my now-adult children. I don't know why we keep living for so long after our minds have gone stale, after we've lost any ability to feel and appreciate the magic and wonder of just living a life.
I still play Skyrim. I basically just use it to unwind because my job as a chef is very stressful and physically demanding. So, I kinda just decompress myself by decorating my own home, doing quest and roleplaying as a Dunmeri Wizard. I also feel that getting lost in there huge open worlds is enjoyable for me because I really like hiking in real life.
I like Minecraft because I like the building and automation aspect of the game. Exploring is fun as well. I certainly don’t need people screaming in my ears or games try to rake me for every ruble.
Born in 2003, currently 20 going on 21 and got both the PS1 and PS2 as my first consoles. I grew up during the 'golden age' of gaming where games didn't feel like such a chore to play. I started online gaming around 2011-2012 playing primarily shooter titles from Call of Duty and Battlfield (though I had already played the campaigns for previous titles). The main thing I noticed as the years progressed is that there was more and more monetization and add-on content for games than I cared to think about. Suddenly games became less about the experience and more about funneling players into making micro-transactions. Unfortunately, games like CoD: Advanced Warfare and Fortnite left a legacy of loot box gambling and the concept of the battle pass respectively. Online games nowadays try to give you "daily rewards" to incentivize you to keep your attention each day for long hours, so you get frustrated enough into buying something that may or may not make the experience easier. This, in my opinion, is what took the soul out of gaming. The other thing could be the fact that games have gotten a lot more political and began pushing more political narratives, which breaks that safe sense of escape from reality that gamers around my age and older usually crave because those are the memories we have associated to video games. Granted, I have changed too. I'm a college student who also works a job and often doesn't have time to play like I used to. I've have gotten out of being more competitive with games and have adopted a more casual style of play as a result. When I was in grade school, I could afford to play hours at a time but I'm just now realizing the responsibilities you must take on as an adult.
36 years old. Gaming is kind of like Christmas, it's magical as a kid, loses its luster as an adult, and it comes back alive when you have your own kids.
I just want a competitive shooter like SOCOM or R6 Siege before it went woke now I just collect platinum trophies for a hobby the games are just the means now crazy tho I went back and did syphon filter 1-3 and tbh I’m not sure how I figured out how to beat them as a kid
I'm 52 and started my gaming life at 4 when my dad brought home a Pong machine , I think it was a Sears TeleStar. At 7 years old I bought an Atari 2600 with my own money from doing chores and saving holiday gift money. As to my favorite era, I'd have to say the Dreamcast for how new and experimental the games were. Soul Calibur was still new, Crazy Taxi and Jet Grind Radio with their cell shading and awesome soundtracks as well as the encouragement to act like a complete derelict graffitying buildings and driving in a generally Cra -----aaaaaaazy manner with 😮 horrified / aroused passengers, depending on how well you stuck the landing. Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Space Channel 5, Seaman. Even Resident Evil Code Veronica with it's then new polygon based moving camera presentation. Online games were new like Phantasy Star Online or Chu Chu Rocket. Point being it wasn't just Assassin's Creed 11 or the 20th Call of Duty or 50th Madden game or Halo 10. There were so many new / improved / divergent experiences to be had.
i am 34 and i am so disappointed by how stale everything is that i dont think ill make it to 50, ill give up after a 2-3 years if things continue to be this boring lame depressing and pathetic.
@@arkgaharandan5881 I'm sorry to hear that. I think there will be a rennaisance in indie games, Single and Double 'A' games while the Triple 'A' will take time to get their mojo back, if they ever do. Sega is making a 5 game comeback, with new Shinobi, Crazy Taxi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage and Jet Grind /Set Radio games which I'm very eager to get my hands on. I enjoyed Resident Evils 2 and 4 REmake, though 3 was a dissapointment. Silent Hill is making a comeback, fingers crossed. I wish Elon Musk would buy Konami, lol. They have such a treasure trove of classics and arcade games just begging to be redone. Castlevania, Contra, Soccer, Blades of Steel Hockey 🏒, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Gladius and many more, plus Metal Gear and Silent Hill. The new Final Fantasy 7 could be good, and the new Tekken. Racing I enjoyed Grid Legends recently. Don't give up just yet. Game on, dude.
Those divergent experiences still exist. Yes, especially in the last decade or so, we've seen a major stall in the AAA space when it comes to innovation and games as fun or thoughtful experiences. Instead, they've leaned harder and harder into games as a cash grab. But, indie/A and AA games still provide the service I keep seeing people asking for, and they do it very well. They aren't the games that have the biggest marketing budgets, but they are absolutely out there if you take a few moments to look around. We have a full on renaissance happening in a wealth of genres. Not to mention the cool stuff that defies conventions and categorization all together. Games I've personally played, off the top of my head, include: in the emerging cozy genre, that really kicked off with Stardew Valley, gems like Unpacking, Ooblets, Night in the Woods, and Spiritfarer; horror titles, both psychological and survival, like Fran Bow, Doki Doki Literature Club, Slay the Princess, Omori, Dredge, Pathologic, Signalis, and the entire Amnesia series; western and eastern style RPGs like Disco Elysium, CrossCode, Sea of Stars, Bug Fables, and Undertale (if you care to go back that far); a whole slew of metroidvanias, that really kicked off with Hollow Knight, but also amazing games like Rainworld, Islets, Bloodstained, Ender Lilies, the Ori and Blasphemous games, and others; less my thing, but a selection of titles from the newly minted boomer shooter genre, and much older, but no less beloved, rogue-like/lite stable; and, a bunch of games that don't really hit like anything else, like Superhot, Hi-Fi Rush, Neon White, Jusant, Journey, Celeste, Tunic, and so many, many more. There are a few AAA games a year that actually feel good to play. But, the best stuff isn't being made by big corporations anymore. They're being made by smaller teams that really want to push games forward into new frontiers, and update older genres with new twists. These devs are succeeding to a degree where we find ourselves with an embarrassment of riches. Which is why I'm always somewhat flummoxed when someone says "games suck now" with a straight face.
@@maximvsdread1610 No. That was my dad's anyway. My first was the Atari VCS. Fast forward: I currently have working: Playstation 1 games that I can play on my replacement PS2 slim. A replacement PS3 second not quite slim but no backward compatibility model. A PS4 first gen with a hard drive . A replacement Gamecube with non OEM Amazon knockoff controllers because Nintendo controllers never last (see also: why I don't have a Switch lol). It broke, but I still have 50 X - Box 2002 Era games. The Green Monster lol.
1987 “boomer” here, to me AAA gaming became weird when it became all about online play and competitive landscape. There’s nothing wrong with people wanting to make it big into competitive and aiming for winning prizes, but to me gaming was never about becoming some sort of superstar, it isn’t about becoming Cristiano Ronaldo or Tom Brady, it was about enjoying a story, more similar to watching a movie or reading a book… some of the best stories I’ve experienced have been in videogames (e.g. Final Fantasy Tactics)… and nowadays its even weirder not only dor me… I really I don’t feel like the current “game as a service” model is any good to anyone, nor competitive players not solo players like me
@@tabutog Spot on. Its more about Clout chasing and Ego tripping about what skins you have, what maps you have, and what rank you are. Its all Bullocks.
Tactics is legit I started on 6 loved it then 7 was mind blowing then tactics was just amazing and 8,9,10 but I still play tactics and 8 to this very day tactics has all kinds of mods after X the series died for me
You keep it alive by smoking weed. Without it games and other things you did growing up don't seem as fun anymore. Our brains change. We get more mature. We've also been involved with it forever and it's not new anymore. It's like pussy. It's good for a couple years and then you get bored of it and would love something different. It gets old.
@@ebogar42 then why are old games still more fun to play than new ones? The quality makes a big difference. Guild Wars 1 or Smash Bros Melee are ovjectively more fun than Cyberpunk or Modern Wokefare
Every generation have its own golden days, for me the peak were the 90s beat em ups and fighting games. But you are right. Games were great until the beginning of the online.
Born in 93. I noticed the shift during the Ps3/360/wii days. It went from a split screen experience to having to pay subscriptions and always online to constant updates as of recently. There’s very few games where you can invite friends over or enjoy with the family and i feel that’s what made gaming feel the best is that they could be shared.
Yeah my all time peak was the first gears and going over my friends how’s and playing whatever we did lol full ass room all stoned after school now we all play in dark rooms in separate rooms
@@brucefly3612 It’s way over priced and it’s always online to track you and your actions. Think about GTA6 they’re watching your decisions now, next thing you know you’ll have feds at your door for thought crimes. It’s a doorway into becoming an artificial being destroying your organic free will. It’s worse because it’s literally conspiring against you bro.
@@CLos93. Hell yeah brother man! Didn’t smoke weed when playing but i remember playing soul caliber with a friend that introduced me to weed when we were teens.
Same here lol it was soul Calibur 2 the one with link in it..one of my friends who was like 9 years older got me into weed i remember play that, and phantasy star online halo 2@@NatureBoi0
Great point on the responsibility part. I think it's partly that AAA games specifically have gone down in quality, but also a lot of us just have more responsibility and frankly less time to sink hours into games. I know if I tried to play for even a few hours without stopping I'd feel super guilty because inevitably something always comes up
For me Games don't feel the same anymore because back then you bought a Game and got a Game. Now when I buy a Game I get an advertisment to buy the rest of the Game I bought.
I believe the five major things that for me changed the way I feel about gaming are : 1. The element of surprise. I remember walking inside a gaming rental store and been astonished by all the selection of games available and everything felt magical, like entering a candy store. 2. Longevity in a game. I remember playing weeks on end games like Super Mario and Zelda without getting bored. 3. It gave me a profound sense of joy, of amazement. I cannot remember the last time a game actually made me laugh or brought deep emotions in me. 4. Pure immersive play that keeps you on the edge from start to finish. One example is Contra from Konami. Amazing, I remember playing this game until my eyes almost popped from it's sockets. I am not joking. I eyes were hurting so much at the time that is took more than 30 minutes for my mom to make me feel better again. I really thought I was either having an epileptic attack or that I was dying or both at the same time. 5. There was no online play and social media garbage. You had a totally finished game that you usually could finish in about a week or less. This left you enough time to bring back the game at the local renting store and either rent the same game if it was not reserved or get another one. (My extra point) 6.The games where high quality products and in high abundance. The game industry back then was blooming and every game developer was trying to out best the others with amazing games.
- As a kid, everything was new and like magic. Now as an adult, I feel like I have already seen everything a hundred times. - As a kid, finishing levels and tasks actually felt like achievements. Like I was good at something. Games were a challenge. As an adult, it's nothing special to finish a game anymore. In the process, I learned nothing new and achieved no notable skills.
Facts the only time I can play a game longer than half an hour is if it has a very good storyline. Other than that i feel like im wasting my life and could be doing something more productive with my time
Right this has really put me into the grove of finding a meaningful video game. This has actually cut a huge dent in my collection. I figured no more endless killing zombies yet I still like grinding games
@@slipinsliderfinally someone says that. Most people who say this stuff always play the same genre of games by the same developers on the same platform, and then they wonder why it doesn’t feel “new”. Do you usually play FPS games? Try an RPG. You play RPGS? Try racing games. You’ve never owned a Nintendo console? You’ve got hundreds of games you’ve missed out on. Play Zelda, Mario, Pokémon, Pikmin, Animal Crossing. These games are incredibly unique. I mean, gaming is great in 2024. If you do not recognise that, games aren’t your problem - you are. Sure, there’s a lot of rushed, terrible, AAA games nowadays. But are we gonna just ignore all the good ones? I mean, just last year we had: 1. Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom 2. Marvel’s Spider-Man 2 3. Baldur’s Gate 3 4. Super Mario Bros. Wonder 5. Super Mario RPG 6. Alan Wake 2 7. Lies Of P 8. Resident Evil 4 9. Final Fantasy XVI 10. Pikmin 4
I'm 25 and I say video games changed when things went from video games being a passion art thing that made money... to a bunch of companies trying to create a formula for a good game... This led to a lot of modern games being very formulaic and similar... All modern first person shooter games play mostly the same with some light variation based on the franchise... Older games are typically more unique and varied
I have to say as someone who is about to turn 35, it’s not about having enough time to become the best at a game anymore. It’s about finding the games that spark real joy in me and truly grab my interest and giving those ones my time. And I’ve had to accept that those types of games have changed overtime. And that’s not just because the industry has changed, people change too.
I agree with you on that. I'm planning to switch over to PC because the games which interest me more are the smaller ones from indie studios that don't follow the main trends.
I'm 51 got back into it loved the wii era gamed since early 80s infact the late 70s... love gyro ai ing and controlsmthat make sense got a gaming pc 2023 built top spec still play the switch more.. trying to find a game worth my time is hard and I prefer to gyro overlay older games and blast them at 4k 120hz 60hz min the RE GAMES AND REMAKES were games worth playing and iv also done all the metro games..lonely horror games with 3d audio in headphones is my go to
Yeah, when I hit 30 a switch just flipped in my brain which made it crystal clear that being top on a leaderboard means nothing if I am not having fun.
not really, go and buy an old tv and an old console and get all the parts for it, and sit down and play it for a week or two weeks, and only play those. You'll realize that you haven't changed much, but the industry CERTAINLY has, there's no longer any love or joy or pride, it's just nice graphics, a generic story and the same game play every other game has Old games weren't perfect, they were unique, and that's part of their charm - but you need to experience it to understand. Me and friend bought a SNES and some games and we played the HELL out of them when the modern consoles sat gathering dust. I had kids, he didn't, so i gave it to him, but damn do i regret it now, as emulators are NOT the same
@@Bjorick Yeah, have my PS2 and Dreamcast plugged in at the moment and been playing NFL2k1 on the Dreamcast and it's soooooooooo much better than the newer Madden games. Just night and day in regards to difference. I can't score 100+ points a game and blowout the AI and the matches are actually fun and competitive. The current season I am 9-5 with 3 games left and I am working hard to try and get the wild card. Last time I played Madden I went 17-0 on all-madden difficulty and won the superbowl. Also, been playing GTA San Andreas on the PS2 and it's just super fun. I'm not mindlessly doing the online mode for hours and actually feel engaged. Playing Smackdown 2 and Here Comes the Pain as well and those are some solid wrestling games and less realistic than the newest title but more fun. I don't know exactly what happened but newer games just lack the "fun" factor of older ones.
32 years old. For me Gaming chaned exactly with the Xbox 360 and PS3, companies and game studios started to focus on making games sell as much as possible, way more than ever before and that's when gaming started changing for the worse (generally speaking). But, it also started to see the rise of the indie devs which tend to have the most fun games nowadays. Now, wanting a game sell as much as possible is actually a good goal, it's how you achieve that goal that can turn a good game into a horrible one.
The Xbox 360 and PS3 was the last great era in gaming for me,after that it started getting weird but I’m glad things are getting a little back on track with single player and indie games being great.
Im 44 and still game now when I can, you hit the nail on the head with this vid. Life gets in the way and you long for those easy childhood gaming sessions with your mates
This is going to be a bit of a longer one, so strap in. Born in 1996, started gaming in 2000 (briefly on the Amiga, the rest on PC). I've also been in the gaming industry professionally for a couple of years. I can tell you 100% that this isn't a mere nostalgia/you miss how you felt as a kid problem. A lot of great points were raised during the video, primarily: the corporatisation of video games and the push towards online multiplayer. These are interlinked, because games nowadays are being made to sell to the lowest common denominator, meaning simple, easy to learn game mechanics and instant gratification. Throw multiplayer on top of that and you create social pressure from your peers to play the latest, most popular game, usually an FPS. It's all about drawing in the most customers by having an easily accessible game designed to make you want to play it with your friends, who in turn also become customers. This has had such an enormously bad influence on video games. You're spot on with your observation about when it happened. Around 2011-2012 is when it started really going downhill. Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed were seeing great success with their year after year release model. Game studios started releasing games in buggy states because internet speeds were going up and they could just shrug it off and patch it later. Steam was also massively on the rise in that period, which only contributed further. For AAA companies, this signalled to treat video game creation as a conveyor belt process. And Team Fortress 2 introduced ManCo crates at the end of 2010. I don't need to comment on microtransactions. Chase is also spot on, though he doesn't realize how much. Developers do look towards other games, see what works and copy that into their own game. This process is literal. I've sat in design meetings in a AAA company where there was an entire slideshow of pictures and videos from other games. The meeting would go like this: "From game A, we want this feature. From game B, we want this and this feature." So next time you see something and think how it reminds you of another game, there's a reason for it. It's not that the developers wanted a feature like it but couldn't think of a better implementation, it's that the developers never put any thought into it to begin with beyond seeing that it worked already for another game. I could go on for hours about this topic. The point is that what so many feel about the change in video games is not to be explained away with medieval peasant levels of logic like "The world has changed!" or "You have changed!" or "You are older!". No, games have fallen off drastically because around 2010, they became a business instead of an art. I'll cap this off with a personal story. In 2020, I played Deus Ex. The original one from the year 2000. It was my first experience with that game. I had never even seen gameplay of it before. To this day, having played the game as it was in 2000 a full two decades later, Deus Ex remains the pinnacle of video games for me. That year, I also played the original Doom and loved it. The next year, 2021, I played Dark Messiah of Might & Magic (2006) and it's now one of my favorite games as well. That kind of magic to video games is so much rarer now. Baldur's Gate 3 today oozes with that same soul and passion we used to enjoy back in the day. I can only hope its success will lead us back onto the right track.
Thanks for your well thought out reply.... You've shed alot of light on what's going on in the industry. I even hate playing the ftp games on my phone more n more cuz I know compared to the paid ones, they've probably spent more time on getting us to buy something in the game than the game itself. Modern gaming is such a waste of good technology.
With profit margins at all time highs the focus on creativity has taken a back seat to monetization. Like any business, companies can only get away with what the consumers allow them to. Shite like this for ex: As per UbiI Soft, "gamers need to get comfortable with not owning their games"....sums up the corporate mindset right here.
I certainly think the grow up think has a merit, because let’s all be real everything is great when we are young and we were easily pleased back than, a lot of games people from my time say it had great stories, are just terrible in comparison to the best novels and movies, however I do agree the corporation of gaming affected the industry in the negative way as whole, even though there is still a lot of good games being made if you know where to look for them, I used to think Zelda games were wonderfully written, but now days I would rather just pick a fantasy book to read since the writing there is just so much better than most rpgs.
@@Getloose360here is the thing, gamers always been easily pleased this is why companies can get away with doing shit business corporations, because they always did it in the past, they just became better at it.
As somebody that’s been a hard-core gamer my entire life and been playing since I’ve been four years old so now that’s 40 years, The answer is simple. The reason why a lot of people feel that older games are better is because in some ways they are!! For example games were made with passion and the developer cared about the quality in the game, Games were usually completed without day one patches, DLC,season passes, and micro transactions did not exist. (DLC, micro transactions, and season passes are big reason why games are not as good today) back in the day the developer made a good quality game and then moved onto the next one they weren’t trying to nickel and dime you by cutting out things, and when they had a good idea or how to improve the game got a sequel. Look at a game like king of fighters for example, every year you got a sequel if that series was made today which is still is you would get one a generation. Now don’t get me wrong there are some great things about modern games that make gaming really enjoyable today, Graphics, story, sound, and difficulty is all nail down really well. Modern games are still very enjoyable games as a service is not
That's why I mostly go for indie games nowadays. An indie game studio is probably one of the worst ways to make profits, hence many of those developers are super passionate and just want to create something good.
Exactly. It's not us that changed. It's the game devs who wanted to make passionate games only to get hired at EA to make battlepass ideas and marketing techniques. No longer just "I think this story is cool let's add as much as we can to make this the best game. " The best game ever made is never gonna be found by the dude who just plays fortnite and overwatch
@@718NecroLeX it’s definitely not us where the hard-core gamer‘s, we are experienced we know what a good game is!!! (There are many modern games we really like) Now I know everybody has a different favorite game mine is Lunar the silver star on Sega CD (there are many versions of it but that was my first experience with it) with that said anybody that would pick fortnight as their favorite game. I don’t respect their gaming opinion at all!!! Also I think part of the problem is is people like to call them selves a gamer and they’re really not a gamer somebody that played it abundance of games and something to earn. There are a lot of people that casually enjoy video games but they’re not gamers, playing the new COD or GTA once a year doesn’t make somebody a gamer.
@@SaHaRaSquad i disagree, many indie developers are greedy and more concerned about putting their crappy game on as much platforms as possible all the while making sure to include their name in big letters before the title screen
@_Majoras I think that's the corporate giants who milk a game as soon as they get bought by a larger publisher. But indie devs need to eat more than anyone so I can allow it when the game costs $8-$30. @michaeldietz2648 it really is when games started being made for non gamers that they failed us
Born in the early 90s. Games were better with anything pre 2010. My reasoning is big gaming companies didn't milk the same franchise, no DLCs, PVP Internet etc. I think all these elements made gaming soulless.
But most games doesn't include those things, but the gaming experience still feels different. But yes even if some games doesn't include those elements they are influenced by most popular games!
My reasoning just like with Hot wheels and Ninja Turtles. I grew out of the shit. I got older. The only way I really enjoy them like when I was a teen or kid is smoking weed. Our brains changed. Games didn't change. They're actually way better now in many ways even with all the pay to win players.
We are at the beginning of a market correction. Moving from away from unsustainable AAA to AA and indie titles. We are also moving away from micro transactions.
I'll believe it when I see it - microtransaction are where most of the profit is made - why would game studios move away from the most profitable aspect of what they do? As long as people keep spending we're gonna keep seeing it.
@@joedatiusThere won't be a market crash. That's delusions of people who have come to hate Modern games for their reasons. At this point Nintendo is very profitable, Xbox is profitable and even PlayStation whose Budgets are insane is profitable. though they need to change their budgeting because otherwise they won't be profitable for long.
I started playing games in the NES era. So I'm quite old, but games have only felt really different within the last 6 years. I'm convinced something with games has fundamentally changed with how games are made. There's something that's less fun or interesting about modern games.
Agree completely. While I’ve changed and have less time I still enjoy gaming within the adult parameters. In many ways gaming is better than ever but it’s only the last 6-8 years half the industry has gone downhill.
@@southsidetherealest2860 No, a game engine does not affect how fun a game is. It a choice of the developers. How to design the game, what to focus on, what things should be in the game. That kind of thing.
@@Sekhatt im just saying unreal 4 and 5 has a weird vibe to it I dont know what it is its a lil fruity and fake plastic toy looking engine its lifeless my opinion although I have seen comments that kinda express the same thing
Born in ‘95. Grew up with an SNES and PS1, but I’d say I became really “coherent” for video games in the PS2 and Xbox era. I had both. For me the shift started at the end of 360 era, with day 1 dlc and mtx. But I truly felt the shift in 2013. My parent’s really broke their backs to get me and my little brothers an Xbone when I was home for Christmas freshman year of college. We booted up the new Forza game, since I had been playing it since the first game on Xbox. When we were going through the menus, I found that you coupd buy individual cars for $2.99 each. That was the moment I truly felt the shift.
Born in 81, I've been around for most of the history of home consoles and computer games except for Pong. Though games have changed a lot, the market for indie games has steadily increased at the same time. I might have lost interest in the biggest games a long time ago, but I'm sure there are new games being released right now that I would love. I think the reason I don't play them is mostly because I changed. Over time my responsibilities as a father and at my job took over. It became more gratififying to do personal coding projects or tinker around the house: things that makes me better at my job or benefits my family. I might go into a new phase of playing a lot of games when I get even older and things slow down.
There are plenty of fun games that don’t have those things, you’re just gonna do your due diligence a bit more. Watch reviews online from people who have played the games you are interested in and you can decide from there what you wanna get.
@@regalcatnetwork8068I personally do so, and I have noticed that I waste more time searching for a game each year. But when I find one, I often enjoy it as much as when I was a kid. So I don't think that I have changed that much. But games are full of trash now.
The fact that you no longer own your games in a lot of cases and you have to pay for things even after you already purchased the game is what's destroying the gaming industry.
@@Zack-cr9icI wouldn’t think it was bad if they weren’t trying to make it the only option 😂 but honestly it’s going that way no matter what but then we’ll see a rise of free and cheap games from individuals already starting happening because the woke
I am 28 (right between the two groups) and feel that gaming really started to change when the Xbox One/PS4 era hit off. There was more live service battlepass stuff than simple multiplayer/single player experiences, classic titles and IPs were botched, many titles stopped focusing on local multiplayer/split screen, a lot of games that launched broken were just worried about their monetization, and a lot of the games lost their “social” features such as pre/post game lobbies, file shares, etc. But during this era I was in college and a lot of my friends switched console sides or stopped gaming on the current gen. I spent a lot of time solo playing like Battlefield 1 (great game of that gen) in a private chat or discord call with a friend on a totally different game. We didnt have as much time with life, school, and work but it felt like the lightning in a bottle of the previous gen was gone and it was a hassle to connect with others in gaming. I remember some games needing a reddit or discord to find players to join your heist or raid that you needed 4-6 friends for and there wasn’t a “joinable lobby.” The 360/Wii/PS3 era having both peak social online features AND the local play with like 4 player split screen or party games made it easier to enjoy with others. I still game today but 90% of my current gen or nostalgia games are playing single player games when I get time for a break from teaching. I grew up before online games starting with the gameboy color and N64 and was there for original Halo 2 xbox live and the height of the 360 days. It was hard to see gaming change that way and in many ways touched on in the video. Instead of games changing to be “innovative and creative” it was changing in ways that seemed more lazy and predatory that wasnt for the benefit of the gamer. I hope that devs and gamers both come together to make a better future for gaming that doesnt make us have to ask this question. (Sorry for writing a book lol)
36. The beginning of the end was when Microsoft tried to sell the 360 as being required always online to use the damn thing. That’s the first time I became aware of the blatant greed. It’s all just need different versions of that event to me.
Born in 89, mostly played games on PC growing up. What changed is that developers started focusing on multiplier instead of single player campaigns. Instead of making a good product that people would buy once and then play, they changed to just focus on online gameplay and milk players over and over again for money.
I was born in '82. My first console was the NES. I think when games started going digital, with the PS3, that's when it started to change the most. I miss the days of physical video game magazines and strategy guides adding to the fanfare of the games at the time. Also, the third party cheat systems like Game Genie and Gameshark that opened up the way you played a game, especially due to the fact that as kids, we didn't have a lot of disposable income, so we were stuck with a lot of the same games we already had. We needed new ways to play them. For me, the 90s just seemed way cooler.
Im 41 as well and co sign this.. 90s games we’re created with the sole purpose of generating a fun experience for the user.. not for trapping and mining them like a resource
I enjoy being awful at games. It gives me way more enjoyment than other gamers. I DON'T enjoy being awful at online multiplayer games, which is why I barely ever play any. Those ARE only fun when you're good at them.
For me the main difference is when you got a game back then it was the final version, you didn't need to wait for updates and patches, you didn't need to pay extra for 100% the game is final and as intended. You found a game break glitch or exploit cool easy mode, you want to 100% it you would generally have a feel when you get to 100% and so on. Now it just like pay 70 dollars for an incomplete sometimes buggy mess and have no end goal objective as we will release dlc after dlc. You found a exploit ban or you can only exploit the game by giving us money.
Just an FYI - this is actually a misconception - there were revisions of old games back in the nes and snes era, but they weren't common - final fantasy 3 had at least 3 revisions in the US, if i'm not mistaken I agree with your point, but just saying - there are plenty of examples of updates from as far back as nes (not sure about atari, but with the way they mass produced game carts, i doubt it :P )
Just an FYI - this is actually a misconception - there were revisions of old games back in the nes and snes era, but they weren't common - final fantasy 3 had at least 3 revisions in the US, if i'm not mistaken I agree with your point, but just saying - there are plenty of examples of updates from as far back as nes (not sure about atari, but with the way they mass produced game carts, i doubt it :P )
Because they don't release games anymore. They treat their customers like lab rat game testers, and release a half finished game at release date, let the customers find all the problems and glitches, and paying the developer to do so, and then release a finalized game a year later, once the hype for the game, and it's player base, has long been forgotten about. Games are dead before they even come out these days, because they keep releasing 50% of a game on drop date.
I'm 31 now and in the last 2 years, my joy for gaming has severely declined. I still love playing games but it just doesn't hit the same no more. With work, life and responsibilities, it feels like another chore to sit down and play games.
Exactly. But ask yourself is it a chore for the old games or the new games? Play 2-3 games from the 2000s then play 2-3 games you love from the current era. If you still feel this way then it's a chore regardless. If you only feel this way with eothet category then it's the games itself. I agree though. It feels like a chore to me too. A pointless chore and work. Achievements mean nothing. Steam doesn't have anything for example like if you accomplish all the achievements in at least 5-10 games in your library you'll get a discount in other games with points for example. That would be a concept that would make me play. At the end of the day a lot of games are pointless and you waste your life playing it. People who are 30-36 or 40 hard-core playing it with the 14-24 years Olds are usually the cesspool of the adult world and don't have anything going for them. They have time to waste and spare. I enjoy my old games though. I need games that are engaging and not good difficult. I played gamedec and played it for hours. Was addicted to it but then when I realized the ending was shitty and every ending would be shitty? I Uninstalled it despite the fact that I was engrossed in it cause it was confusing at some points plus it made all that effort pointless.
I'm 18 years old and i have my last months in high school rn so i yet to have those great responsibilities that you mentioned, like a job, paying rent etc.. My biggest worry right now is choosing a university, so i game pretty comfortably after I've studied everything. My point is that even now, when i have almost all the time in the world, gaming just doesn't feel right. New games are all about profit or they're not original at all / boring. When playing a new AAA game there's just this feeling in me that I've played this before somewhere/sometime. As a result when I'm gaming I'm almost always playing something "old" like the og total war games, fallout 3/new vegas GTA SA, etc... Problem is that the supply of old games that are in my interest area are running out, as much as i want to play skyrim or oblivion all day, after the 100th playtrough even the best games become boring. As a result of this I often find myself just mindlessly browsing youtube to maybe catch a good game that i haven't played before, sadly 9/10 times i don't find anything. If new games continue to go down this corporate greed filled road I'm worried that after a while there'll be nothing for me to play. Of course there are exceptions (thank god), Elden Ring was fire af, and even tho i had to wait a year for cyberpunk that was really good too. My advice, if you've a similar problem, is to find 1 or maybe even more (preferably multiplayer ) game that you can play anytime without getting bored (leage of legends or battlefield, maybe even WOW for example. My choice is Hell let Loose btw.). Play a couple hours / rounds of it, even better if you play with friends and in between playing and not playing that game, try to find something new, something that you've never tried before and play that. If you get bored of said game, just go back to your go-to hop on/off game and repeat the process, this is how i stay entertained. Good Luck ! And thanks to anyone who read this
hey if good games you haven't played before are what you're in search of then maybe my (not yet finished) top favorite games list is just what you need that or you could always sub to some of the numerous indie game showcase channels
"New games are all about profit" is the biggest bullshit i've ever heard because i heard the exact same statement 10 years ago and gaming was in a much much worse state back then, gaming is, was and will always be about profit. There are a lot of great games out there, both single player and multiplayer, give them a try instead of browsing youtube, i've been giving a try to some games that i thought i would never like and they've been some of the best experiences i've ever had
@@iamLI3 you're right about that, i exaggerated a bit because i'm tired of seeing people saying that new games are made for profit when that has always been a thing, the games made by passionate devs existed back then just like they exist nowadays
@@matitoneTake a look at the release of any new AAA game and compare it to any PS3 game release. Every company loves profit. That's a fact. But the PS3 games were sold only after they're completely finished developing. That's how they made money. They had to be 100% sure that the development is finished. And the new games ? They release the half baked games first, then start raining stupid patches after patches. Why ? Because the investors and shareholders want that hype money and force devs to release games as fast as possible to generate profits. That's also the reason why Indi games are more fun to play since they're developed by a smaller group of people who have no deadlines and can finish gamd development before releasing it.
Nice video, I'm 23 and I grew up playing mainly ps2 and to a lesser extent ps3, I really started seeing the biggest difference in gaming just after the ps4 and xb1 came out, the changes I noticed were mainly that games began to come out less and less polished despite graphical improvement (which still blows me away to this day) but I think personally for me, it took accepting that I as an individual have changed just as much as the gaming space as a whole, and once I did that and stopped stressing about what the most popular game is, and just played what I wanted, I found my love for gaming again
Nobody talks about the globalization of gaming markets and how game design is catered towards "a market" of players than a "niche" of players. The older gen consoles had bit more whacky and out of the box game designs that you don't see anymore, yes there are lot more indie games today especailly on PC, but most of them are already in pre-existing big genres like deck builders, roguelites or another 16bit JRPG. There is incredibly low amount of risks taken on triple A game design today
As someone who plays exclusively single player games this video is hard to relate to. It seems like a lot of the feelings stem from multi player experience
well, it also depends on what games you play and buy. Total war games are great, they have to push out a new game EVERY YEAR - and they're buggy and hae tons of dlc, even though they're single player Final fantasy is nothing like it used to be, but i still LOVE a dragon quest game. single player games are far less common and usually, the story seems far inferior to what it was in the past (again, except dragon quest and a few rare examples - but for the most part, single player does seem like a 'we'll tack it on so people won't complain but we will NOT put effort into it' scenario)
Exactly. I'm 23 and every single one of my gamer friends play online and for them is about competition and winning the match. On the other hand, me being a patient gamer, I manage to enjoy every single title. Currently playing The Witcher 3.
Almost 50 years old here, gaming changed noticeably to me in the late 90’s and drastically ever since. I try to stay simple and platform friendly nowadays
Sir i am curious to know what did change your experience because i can relate on how micro transactions and pvp changed our experience but what happened to you?
36, first console was a SNES. Honestly the change seemed to happen about mid-way through 7th gen. There's plenty of games i enjoyed in that era, Arkham for example, but it seemed as though multiplayer and competitive based games were gaining dominance. It's probably just a result of more people becoming interested in the hobby also.
Shooting games became bland and uncreative that just not worthy to pay at full price. Single player games, some of them, are worth it but most RPGs don’t respect your time.
My motives for gaming have definitely changed, well actually all hobbies I have that involve consuming some sort of media now that I think about it because whether it's games, books, shows, or movies my goal is completing them and not exactly enjoying them. Like I want to be the guy that's played all of the games and read all of the books and seen all of the shows. I've noticed while playing games thinking how I cant wait til I finish the game and get that sense of accomplishment of adding another experience under my belt. On another note I remember being really excited seeing a Halo 3 MLG label on a bottle of Dr Pepper because I really wanted competitive gaming to be a big deal and now that it is a big deal I find myself wishing it didn't happen. A lot of us aren't having fun in multiplayer games like that because we want to live the dream and be the best and make money playing games lmfao. So instead of enjoying ourselves we just get real upset when we lose and it doesn't even matter if you win 5 games and lose 2, as humans we focus negativity and those losses and the wins just feel like a very brief relief. This way we aren't having fun when we win or lose. Or maybe that's just me.
I'm approaching 40. My first console was an NES I bought used but the first new console I owned was the SNES. I also had a PC with DOS and played games on there too before eventually moving to Windows. Here's my thoughts: 1) Games are a lot more competitive than they used to be--even in games that are not (supposed to be) inherently competitive. Back in the day, you either competed with your immediate circle of friends, the computer, or yourself. Now, there's online competitive play, tournaments, speed running, one-upping each other on social media and streaming platforms, etc. 2) Gaming, in some regards, is not as social as it used to be. You would go to a friends house and play games with them. Or, later, you would get a lot friends together for LAN parties. Now? Just connect online and play with a bunch of strangers 99% of the time. 3) A missing sense of discovery, which also used to have a social element. Talking with your friends, classmates, acquaintances, family members, etc. about what you were figuring out in a game. Or, discussing urban legends. I have two distinct memories of something like this: 1) When a neighbor used the "Konami code" when we played TMNT III on the NES, I was completely blown away as I had never heard of it; and 2) When I went to my friends house one day, who had been playing through Final Fantasy VII on the Playstation, and he told me Aeris (that's how we knew her at the time) had been killed off which left me shocked. I was even more shocked when I finally got to that point in the game myself and watched the cutscene. Now? Just go on the internet and find out everything you've ever wanted to know about a game. How many conversations based on games anymore are due to what someone figured out for themselves vs. what they found out through researching RUclips videos and internet forums? 4) Gaming, in some sense, has gotten too technical. One example: If you play a cooperative game online, you can't just get on it and enjoy it the way you want without risking ostracization. No, you must: build your character a certain optimal way, play your character a certain optimal way, complete this task a certain optimal way, finish this dungeon a certain optimal way, etc. And if you don't, you'll get people angry at you, you'll get kicked from the group or guild, because you're wasting everyone's time with discovering things for yourself or performing your own experiments, etc. Or, worse, the game will punish you for not doing things an optimal way, forcing you down the same path as everyone else. Even single player games can be like this. 5) Many games have too much to do. Very few games anymore are exclusively about getting from point A to point B while obstacles are thrown at you, or exclusively about the Journey (starting off weak, then working your way up to being powerful enough to beat the final boss). Now, there are achievements, side quests, 1% drop rates of that one cosmetic or rare ingredient or powerful weapon you want, getting your characters to max level, crafting items and equipment, introducing more and more mechanics which further complicates or convolutes the game play, mini games, collecting one of everything in the game to unlock something special, etc. And not being able to do everything in the game can be frustrating. Games are now less about discovery and more about checklists to complete, more about technical skill and less about figuring out a puzzle or finding a certain item or getting past an obstacle. 6) Technology. It has pushed gaming in new ways, but it also limits it. Think about how restricted dialogue has gotten due to the insistence on voice acting. Or, that a game has to look graphically beautiful and flashy, but this comes at the price of having a shorter game or a more shallow gaming experience. Or, as mentioned in the video, that games can be updated over time which leads to incomplete games being released.
But people plays more games, longer than ever before. The people who pass all their time on social media wouldn't have been gamers either back then when it was limited. A gamer would rather lose time in video games instead of tik tard.
@@jacksheldon8566 I know personally people that they gamers and they always looking down their phone on the middle of the game and I have to be telling them dude let's go never paying attention to the game, and always lost of what is going on in the game.
I will be 37 this year. And I grew up with the older systems like the SNES, Genesis, Dreamcast and PlayStation and n64 and so on. And to me I think mostly why gaming doesn’t feel the game is because greed has infested the gaming industry. When I was a kid the game released and that was done and you got what you paid for. Now games release unfinished because of unrealistic deadlines so investors can make their money off of preorders. I myself have noticed that I don’t game as much as I am older now, i still play them but not as much as when I was a kid.
Gaming changed when investor's around the world were beholden to the blockbuster releases of games like halo and gta. Every money hungry person thought, "hey, that makes lots of money, let me buy that and ruin it."
I was born in 1991 and all I need to do is look at my time during Covid to see what made me lose interest in games. I think the main factor that made gaming so fun and amazing was coming home and getting on with all your friends and unwinding from school. When we all grew up and moved onto adulthood we were on less and less at the same time and gaming as a whole just wasn’t much fun for a few years. Fast forward to quarantine and all of the sudden all of my buddies and I have free time again. We were on Warzone every night having an absolute blast as a bunch of 30 year olds I felt just like I was 16 again. Staying up too late, talking shit, shoveling down a snack to jump back on. It was just like when I was a kid. For me gaming was an adventure to go on with your friends. We could work as a team, strategize, be competitive. It was awesome to get to relive that little chapter of my life during our 6 weeks in lockdown. I think the other factor that has lowered interest in games is that whenever we played these originals, it was uncharted territory. Every new game had something never before done to offer. You were getting to experience the”rewarding” parts of war without all the negatives, you were getting to be a god, a professional dirt biker, a gladiator, any of those things. When we were kids it had never been done before. Now every new shooter/adventure game is just like all the others with a little spruced up story and slightly different themes. All the original titles are still games I feel nostalgia for. Shy of the recent God of War and Red Dead 2 titles, nothing has had that “Wow this is something new” feeling for me in a very long time in gaming.
I feel like the biggest reason is that people only play the same genres over and over again Like most of those videos ive seen is from people who almost exclusively play fps games and minecraft and pretty much nothing else Like its basically playing the same game again and again with a different color scheme
@@Fancyether people need to get more out of their confort zones I used to hate turn based strategy untill i gave advance wars a try a few years ago and now i love the genre Most of those people have probably never even played a CRPG Hell most of them have not even played an immersive sim like dishonored or system shock
That's not really true, Minecraft couldn't be more different than CoD, Counter Strike, Fortnite or Skyrim. CoD and CS are also totally different from each other even though they are superficially the same looking. FPS is just a control scheme but there are many different games with that control scheme. I grew up with 2D platformers and nobody would claim Castlevania, Mega Man and Mario are the same...
Looking back at my gaming days we had a living room full of friends. Yelling and screaming and laughing. Playing multiplayer games taking turns, that’s what made gaming fun for me. Yea i know online gaming is convenient but to me will never match the experience of having all your buddies in one place fighting for their lives and u making fun of them when u took em all down.
Shifting between hobbies and scheduling time for each one is kinda what I have been doing that helps me. Also been going back to my ps2 that I just found in my storage. surprised the thing turns on but those games have been fun. The achievement/trophy systems not being there to worry about and just playing the game itself without distraction has been the most relaxing
Great video! For me, gaming has changed when they are more focused on online, monetization and competitiveness, live service games in general. I'm 25, and yes, in my end, the surroundings have changed as well as my situation as I have a job now plus the responsibilities that came with it, so now I lean towards the casual story driven games, as I enjoy them more than playing online. Nowadays, when there are new games that will be released, I tend to look at the review first and wait for all the DLCs to be released and wait for a sale to be able to purchase it.
32, every console sense 1991. Still enjoy gaming as much as i always have. Gaming is ever evolving, going went from 2d to 3d, the introduction of voice acting, and genres come and go as they gain and lose popularity. Grinding has become wayyyyy more prominent, single player games are not the focus anymore. Anddd, i could think of more, but im done. I still play in my free time and love every second of it. I look forward to the future of gaming, ill game as long im alive.
32 as well and I have been gaming for as long as I remember. First console was NES, then SNES, N64, etc. I agree with all your points. To this day I still enjoy when companies make single player games that are actually good. That's why I praise games like Spiderman 2 for being a single player experience even though it sucks that we live in a world where physical copies are non-existent nowadays because there isn't any data on the disc anymore. I love that we have things like Steam Deck because I can emulate all the games I loved playing on PS2, GameCube, you name it.
I grew up in the 90’s playing the N64 and Gamecube. I think gaming changed a lot for me when more people were playing games online and/ or paid a subscription fees to play games. When I was I kid, I would play video games in my home with friends and have physical copies of games that we would play, share and trade.
The main reason for why I still enjoy gaming is the curiosity that comes with trying out something new to see how someone else's imagination manifested into something that we can all interact with and experience in our own unique ways. What changed over the year imo boils down to oversaturation, same with other forms of media, like movies and shows, we have so many games to choose from, it gets hard sometimes to prioritise certain games over others, considering that after you turn 30, time management becomes a game into itself. I could sacrifice 3 days of my life to play Skyrim on launch without batting an eye back when I was in college...nowadays, not so much.
@@Razer5542too many games that are repititve, too many zombie or fantasy games, too many games with no varieties. For instance, aside Sifu, name me another hand to hand combat beat'em up game in the last say 5 years.
the problem is social media and how fast things you can find on the internet. Games were supposed to be a journey where you discovered new things during gameplay. however, nowadays there are guides how to speedrun or get the best results which ruins purpose of it. its like watching a movie while you already had watched the crucial scenes on youtube before
For real, and we will continue to have our minds blown. My first "console" was the original Gameboy lol. I can't wait until they come up with more original experiences other than fps or zombie games. Jesus. We get it.
I was born in 1982 and I have experienced even some of the really oldschool titles like space invaders, defender, pacman, also some NES titles (Super Mario Bros. 1 - 3, Kung Fu) and of course most of the popular SNES Games - also home computer (C64, Amiga) games
The 4th & the 6th Consol Generations were the best & have the best games. I grew up mostly in the 7th gen but its plane to see for people who pay attention = Stuff made for a "Modern Audience" aka. Esg, Dei, Lack of Tallent & many other factors is why most Games, Movies, TV shows post 2015 (in some cases sooner or later) Lack in being really good, enjoyable, innovative & usually just end up being Slop for NPCs & more often then not push a globohomo narrative.
Games have made lots of people especially in fighting games online rage quitters. No honor and no integrity. You know those rage quitters rage quit in real life too. It's sad.
Too much anxiety and depression to actually "focus" on a game. Feel like the world is caving in as an adult and I'm running out of time. So I can't enjoy video games anymore for that reason and also they don't bring tranquility. Sometimes failing a mission and repeating can be exhausting. Learning the game, the control's etc all over again. Can't be asked to get into a game.
@@Monkofthecaribbeanme but without the business lol. I’m too focused on bills and real life stuff to enjoy games lately. It sucks, but it comes and goes
Why would time be running out? I started again for the third time age 41. 3 years later I have my latest project running. It was hard work but you reap what you sew. I now have time for gaming but I also decided not to pursue another relationship. If anything will sap the life out of you it’s one of those.
@@Monkofthecaribbean That's exactly my motto 💯. You said it! Plus - older games were better, PS1 and PS2. PS3 Was my last generation, Tekken 6 and GTA5. Game's got weirder. Pro evolution soccer got worse in gameplay when KONAMI left and sold it to EGaming. FIFA are absolutely lazy, rushing games etc. It's over. I went back and played PS1 emulator online on PC with my PS3 controller, most comfortable pad before they ruined it. That was fun for like a day. Played Tekken 3, Crash bandicoot 3 (Also on PC Steam they remastered the Crash bandicoot trilogy, and remastered the graphics for all 3, that was amazing), bugs bunny lost in time, tomb raider 2, resident evil 1 (also remastered the steam), i think the only revival possible is if you want to go back with your adult IQ advantage and try to complete old games that you couldn't as a child.
@@JDZYNS sounds like you've got the nostalgia goggles on, maybe you just aren't into games as much anymore? I just don't get videos like this "gaming isnt the same anymore" no maybe you're just an adult of course it's not gonna be the same 🙄 I Still love games!!!
I’m went back to ps2 era , loving it . Playing more old school games and having 100x more fun than new games . Idk if it’s bc I was born in 1990s but I feel my childhood is here to stay
Alright everyone it’s been a bit over a week and some things have changed.
This video did so much better than I ever could’ve imagined and I’d like to thank each and everyone of you for commenting on here, regardless of whether or not you agreed with me.
That being said there’s no way I could possible take all the info from the comments and compile them so instead I’ll be making a list of notable things you guys have brought up in the comments.
- I completely forgot to mention how indie games still remain soulful and inspired, Chxse and I did bring it up in our conversation but I couldn’t work it into a segment. Notable indie games recommended by you guys include: Hades, Celeste, cuphead, hollow knight
- I also did honestly forget to mention the wii, snes, and switch, not any malicious intent, just two consoles I didn’t have a ton of experience with.
-Some of you requested a few cites for the statistics I pulled so heres a nice list
-newzoo.com/global-gamer-study
-www.statista.com/statistics/189582/age-of-us-video-game-players/
-www.bankmycell.com/blog/video-game-industry-revenue
Remember people if you disagree with me, this is my opinion and I just wanted to provide an interesting thought experiment. If you still enjoy games the same way I’m happy for you above anything else
Thank you all for the support, next video should be out in a few weeks
after a long thought, i have decided to quit gaming and get into homesteading, i now live in a real life skyrim reality..
While not the specific point of the video, the best selling games of the year were also included (allegedly with correct years) so it just seemed a glaring oversight to have so many of the console release years be wrong in the console timeline that was referenced several times.
NA release years for the big 3:
nes------1985
gboy-----1989 (handheld)
snes------1991
n64------1996
gboyc-----1998 (handheld)
gcube------2001 (first online capable)
gboya-----2001 (handheld)
nds-----2004 (handheld) (online capable)
wii------2006
3ds-----2011 (handheld)
wiiu------2012
switch------2017 (hybrid)
psx------1995
ps2------2000 (first online capable)
psp-----2005 (handheld) (online capable)
ps3------2006
psvita-----2012 (handheld)
ps4------2013
ps5------2020
xbox------2001 (first online capable)
xb360------2005
xbone------2013
xbx/s------2020
Very good points in the video overall!
Few major points I would like to add which have been affecting my enjoyment over the years and others whether they know it or not is that these days with so many choices when it comes to games fomo is definitely a thing and I would emphasize that it's important to be honest and play what you enjoy and what resonates with you and peaks your interest.
Tastes change all the time and we want new experiences so what is enjoyable to each and everyone differs vastly, it's easy to get carried away playing whatever "everyone" considers is good and feel fomo for not playing those games and you ignore other possibly better games for you.
With so many options It's important to start with the realization that it's important to be picky and honest. If the game doesn't get you excited to begin with even when others think it is the best thing ever and tell you it is a must play don't feel bad for skipping it and not even trying it. There's no obligation for you to give any game a chance. If a game you got excited for feels like a chore even after giving it a proper shot don't feel bad for walking away and not finishing it. Same goes the other way around if you enjoy something overall don't constantly jump to the next thing instead stick with it. With so many games it can be hard to simply just pick what you like and play that. When you get excited for a game and find that game you enjoy don't look over the shoulder and constantly consider if there's something better out there but enjoy what you're doing fully momen to mement!
Also like mentionee in the video I personally find there's a sweetspot to how much each individual can play and fully enjoy. Taking the necessary time to enjoy life itself is the fuel you need to enjoy and love games. Don't feel fomo for not playing or immediately jumping to the next thing.
In short: Give your time and the games you play more value, be picky, play less and enjoy what you're doing fully! I'm 30 now, I don't play as much as before but I'm happy to say that I enjoy games as much if not more than I ever have at the moment :)
I agree with pretty much everything and all of this applies to me (in various amounts). I was 12 when I got the original NES, and what a time that was. I had school, friends, and video games. The last two were most often very much intertwined.
A few other aspects is that there was far less competition for our gaming time. I played Super Mario Bros. until was a speed runner, because there wasn't that much else to compete for my time with that game. I felt that was true up until the PS2 era where there was starting to be too many games to play and I had to choose which I'd sink time into. Today, I feel torn playing any game because I feel bad that I'm not playing something else. I don't want to play the sequel to a game before I played the prior one. That is too much stress for a hobby like gaming. I've gotten around this now, but it did affect me for years.
Another aspect of these older games is that there was less technology to compare to. Having a home console was a privilege for the longest time. There was nothing else like it. One of the few on-demand activities you could do alone. TV was broadcast so you had to be there on the day and time to watch your shows. Yes, there was VHS or DVDs as time went on, but the choices weren't so many. Today, we have access to nearly every TV show, movie, album, song, or video game, with just a few clicks and seconds.
I do remember thinking that the updates we started to see in the PS3/360 era as the fundamental change to gaming. The updates (especially the day 1 patch) meant that you could never be sure you'd be playing the same game from day to day patches for game breaking bugs is great, of course).
The biggest change is the corporatization of the industry. Games are no longer art the way they once were. They are live service, or bloated full of checklists of repetitive tasks (I love Ubisoft, but DANG did they have some nasty effects on games!).
Is gaming in a bad place now? Not really. But this age of high technology
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Question, what is the game at 19:00 ?
Plz fix low audio levels.
I’m 31. Gaming changed when the developers figured out how to squeeze each and EVERY last dollar out of us
So true
yeah, i still go back and play old nes/snes/playstation games i never played and can get lost in them, i can still get lost in the sims games - i'm 44 and have 6 kids, it's not that I've changed, gaming has become political, and nothing but a 'i'll sell you part of the game now and maybe sell you more later, good luck trying to play it without the dlc and patches that we may or may not release!'
I want an escape from life for a few hours, not a reminder that people see me as nothing more then a wallet with legs
There used to be lots of energy in the industry to progress but now it's the same repackaged garbage with a different name.
Stop spending your hard earned money on things you have to convince yourself you enjoy.
Squeeze every last dollar out of us while pushing woke narratives. DICE over there just like "if you don't agree with handicap chicks on the frontlines and black Nazis then don't play the game"
I was born in 1988. I grew up with the NES and N64. The types of games available have obviously definitely changed in the AAA sphere. Now, AAA studios rarely make 2D platformers, for example. Then there's the rise of the indie scene. But the feel of gaming did not change for me until the mid 2010's. Probably around 2014. When loot boxes and microtransactions overtook AAA. The quality of games flatlined, and making extreme profits became the only goal. Soul and the drive to entertain customers was lost. And so many games show that these days.
There's so many 2D platformers in the indie scene that are really good and innovative.
@@goosewithagibus aside from that ik what hes saying there was a very diffrent feel to gaming after the xbox one/ ps4 came out ps3 and 360 and before was peak gamin
Thankfully there are rare exceptions, but realistically we’ll only get 2 great reviewed games per year
Seemed like at least with the Ps2 era, more chances were being taken. A lot more "controversial" studios and games (Playboy Mansion, anybody?). Seemed like devs were saying "alright, let's see what this baby can do, and what happens if we change the fuel with dynamite". Then like you said, it became about profits. Risks had to be halved, couldn't piss off 3/4 of the population now that that population are paying for the $10mil programs used. Indie devs pretty much have to come in and don the early-Rockstar robes, make a "Grand Theft Auto" to shake everything up, but in a scene where investors throw money and also determine apparently when a game is to launch whether its ready or not.
And now everything has to have the newest tech, the newest feature, the newest innovation, that games feel like they're being pumped out as to always catch the train of trends - even if the only change to the actual game itself is a new reskin.
there are so many quality gems in the indie scene for platformer/2d
"celeste" is fkin incredible.
and this year released
"Rusted Moss" is amazing, it is a metroidvania but you have a attachable bungie cord/rubber band/grappling hook with actual elasticity/physics that allows you constant sequence breaking and crazy platforming.
and there is couple First person perspective ones that i forgot the names of.
indie scene is always the go-to if you are looking for something like this.
wanna play OG classic old school ResidentEvil style games? indie devs got you-
"Nightmare of decay"
(basically resi1 but fps , polished well designed and masterfully crafted, easy recommend) ,
"SiGNALiS" an absolute gem,
"Evil Tonight"(RE but GBA style),
"You will d^e tonight"
and upcoming "Holstin"
u want 2d action side scroller or metroidvanias ? 2023 is stacked with incredible metroidvanias Afterimage, Blasphemous2, Rusted Moss (also Tevi , Last faith, 9 years of shadow, Eibnezar etc) and upcoming year is gonna be great with Silksong, Crowsworn, Ninesols.
and Indie fps reteo sh00ter is thriving too, for example from 2023's are:
Dread Templar,
Cultic ( ep 1.5),
Turbo Overkill,
Killbug,
Ultrak^ll (act3),
Forgive me Father2 ,
Roboquest,
DUSK (HD edition) ,
De@dlink, Trepang2 ,
Incision ep2(underrated),
ion Fury:Aftershock and there are incredible ones such as original DUSK, Ion Firy, Cultic, Amid Evil , Hrot, Project warlock2 etc that released over the years
for immersive sims you got absolute best ones such as
Ctrl Alt EGO,
Cruelty Squad.
and also see
Amnesia The bunker (is this indie?)
Sytem Shock remake, Divine eye cybermancy, Gloomwood
After i quit playing online and only play story games and rpgs i found enjoyment again.
YES
Boom. My cousin tries to tell me that I play the “boring” games which are just fun story games. Meanwhile he’s been playing 2k and multiplayer cods for YEARS😂😂😂
@@edwardnorton3534 cod and league of legends was a blast for the first 5 years and then it became a sickness. 😂
I realized this is a big factor. Games have changed but at different points. But the main factor that ruined different games was a giant change into removing what was fun in the game to begin with.
-> Uncharted went to a down system instead.
->GTA became a mess of alot of issues.
-> WWE&FIFA Became alot more limiting and removing creative capabilities over time to focus on minigame vcurrency stuff.
-> RPG's though some are great in every generation its always atleast 1 great RPG every year. The wish is for more better games.
So i realized if we talking offline games we missed having fun games that make you wanna spend hours either due to creative options or content options.
When it comes to online games we miss the simplicity and the quickness of stuff. Should load and be quick to finish matches and the simple shooter needs to keep it simple.
But nowadays shooters have some jump/power abilities/flying component/bullet sponge to it.
Been playing Last of us factions as the last good normal shooter for the last 10+ years since Uncharted 3 & Old Metal Gear Onling 3 servers got shutdown.
I fear what else is next, if there is NO normal shooter anymore without abilities.
Online gaming has gotten extremely toxic over the years. I understand we did have trash talking back then, but people now days take it way too far.
Gaming changed when most devs switched to the games as a service model. Now they try to keep you artificially grinding by getting you addicted so they can squeeze more money out of you. Instead of back when devs had to produce meaningful content to earn money.
Games have become worse, because the thought process behind game development changed from "what can we do that's so fun that it's worth playing over and over" to "how expensive can the skins be that we produce and still find people who buy them"
That’s just AA and AAA games not to mention they get that woke money loan but the same thing that ruined movies and tv series ruined gaming it’s called ESG scoring
There’s a very rare breed that still asks that first question AND is an ongoing game with new content coming for many years and god, it’s amazing. A game that’s not one and done forever but that also doesn’t try relentlessly to duck your money down with no care for you? The BEST
Even if I wanted to I don’t have time to keep up with that. Many older gamers like myself will give up on gaming because it feels like an endless pursuit just trying to finish one game you like. I miss the days you bought a game, enjoyed it, beat it and displayed it proudly on your shelf to relive another day.
The PS4/XB1 gen is when gaming REALLY dropped off. Gaming is always changing but the last generation is when gaming truly lost it's way
i do think there is a reason why remakes and remasters are more popular than ever, and its not just nostalgia
There was a noticeable drop in quality right around 2013. I feel there is gaming pre GTA V and post GTA V. At this point in time I have very little interest in e sports and to be honest I feel most of the gaming community does as well. Getting out of the hyper competitive scene helped me enjoy gaming more. I still occasionally go to smash locals but I know I’m no MCleo.
@@darklinkduck2275 2013 really is when there was this shift. Look at developers like Naughty Dog and Rockstar who were firing on all cylinders pre 2013. We got entire franchises on a single console like Uncharted 1-3/TLoU1, Resistance 1-3, Gears of War 1-3, GTA 4/5/Red Dead/Max Payne 3/LA Noire, BioShock 1/2/Infinite - all within a 7 year span. Then the mindset shifted and now studios need to make everything cinematic and take an entire console generation's worth of time to squeeze anything out.
I made the call years ago after the Sony acquisition that Insomniac was no longer going to be able to march to the beat of their own drum, but rather become the Spiderman Studio. The recent Insomniac leaks proved me right. So not only is there an emphasis on cinema over fun, but creativity has also gone to the wayside
The later half of the seventh generation is when I first saw massive problems brewing in the gaming circle. Guess who was leading the charge? EA of course.
Anybody remember Mass Effect 3 day one DLC?
I believe its becasue of mobile gaming and microtransactions.
Game studios quickly realized that the real money maker wasn't selling the game, but selling in-game content. Sure they can sell you a $60 shooter game, but the real money maker is getting that player to drop $300 on battle passes, and another $400 on camos, skins etc.
Why bother making a functional and innovative game when you can just get someone to buy skins?
Laziness and greed is killing soo many industries
yeah, but they're only lazy and greedy because people still pay them, they get rewarded if they put in effort or not - if people stop buying incomplete games on day one and demand a demo, the laziness will disappear over night
Correct. You would be surprised how quality is depleted when laziness is the elephant in the room.
Movies, restaurants, porn, cars, etc. Yeah
Also uneducated in programming and lacking a developed imagination.
True. Back in the day if you were lazy and greedy producing shitty games that was the end for you. Nobody could afford to fuck up and make a terrible game on purpose. Quality and creativity was everything now everyone is half assing with patches & fixes or constant DLC packs you gotta pay for.
I'm 49 and still love gaming. I have a normal life with a job, wife and now adult children. I started with Atari and have always gamed. I guess I started because I hated my childhood and it was an escape for me. It still is but as I get older, I find it as a way to keep my mind moving and have fun too. Gaming has declined mostly because of greed to me. It's about microtransactions more than just having a soul and knowing someone or some group put their heart and soul into a game for others.
I agree. I'm 51 and I've always just played games for fun. I still do, and I still like the same kind of games, I just have less time to play than when I was a kid. I have a pretty beefy PC now and I love the way new games look and sometimes feel. The corporate greed is just what makes me sick now. If I buy a game, I want to play it right then, I don't want to wait for 5 patches. I shouldn't have to, they should have quality control. Even though Baldur's Gate 3 has had a ton of hotfixes, I was still able to complete the game once right when I bought it. Yeah, there were some bugs but they weren't game-breakers for me. And Larian was able to do that because they are a private company and are not beholden to corporate publishers like EA. That's why that the games coming out now, I'm not a huge fan of (except for BG3, I've been playing that non-stop since it came out). Plus, being over 50 makes the controllers harder for me to handle lol. But I never played for competitiveness or achievements. I play to have fun, distract myself for a while, and get lost in a game. That's why I've always played games, and it's still why I play games. I only play single-player games because I don't want to "compete" in a game. Give me a good story with some good visuals and I'm happy.
I had a great childhood also and grew up with the Atari 2600 and all the other retro consoles. I’m 49 now and just can’t seem to get into gaming anymore. I literally force myself to play and I do but then I get bored. I’m thinking I’m just getting old
@abgreenlantern1 you just haven't discovered the right game. I am also 49, played since Atari. There are games I will not play or purchase such as call of duty, madden (insert yr after 2012), but even at my age, there are 2 sets of games that I will always go back to. One, is the mass effect trilogy, the original The Last of Us, and the Final Fantasy 7 remake which will be a trilogy soon. Those games are simply fantastic with great stories that really get to you, tough battles, and have a real way of bringing people in.
Old man here, 58 and I started with pong then Atari, Sega Ps1 2 3 4 and finally three months ago the PS5 slim. I am constantly amazed by how good the graphics keep getting and the stories that pull me in like Last of Us or GOT. I marvel at the detail of waterfalls or the ocean in a game which makes me pause to just look at the scenery. I’ve watched cities and NPGs come alive with games like GTA and RDR2. I had an old friend I hadn’t seen in years come over recently and he made the comment of “ you still play video games? “ I popped in RDR2 and his jaw dropped in disbelief. Maybe if you grew up playing awesome games then the bar has already been set high but for me I’m still being impressed with the advancement games are making. I’m now getting ready to play the new Harry Potter game and lose myself in the detail from what I’ve already seen on RUclips.
Age has nothing to do with it, I'm the same age as you and have 16hr sessions 4 times a week. I causing all nighters. Game game game. But I feel in your case....you have not (yet)come across a game you click with. Let's see what's released and I hope you find one you enjoy :)
Being in my mid 30s, I can pinpoint almost exactly when games started to get lame to the late PS3 to PS4 era. This was when the corporate influence got extremely heavy. Instead of taking chances and trying new stuff, it was copying what worked or chasing trends. I think the appeal to a wider audience killed it too. Instead of making a game for your core audience, devs had to make games that appealed to everyone. I've recently been revisiting old classics and other stuff I missed when it first came around. It's much more appealing than the current slop pushed out now.
Clearly don’t remember every other game being a licensed platformer in the early nineties.
Home improvement anyone?
I always like to say that the decline of the game industry is because it finally became a proper industry. The graduation from video games being more niche to a household thing is where shit hit the fan
I find myself enjoying my collection of older games more and more over nearly all the newer ones coming out.
I'm exactly the same.. I've been playing games that originally released early PS4 era that I never got round to playing and am thoroughly enjoying them more than new releases.
Yep my p4 collects dust while I play ps2 emulation...
Same here. I just love the fact that you can just insert a game and play.. Instead of having to download a ton of GB’s worth of updates.
Same. Returned to my favorite game growing up, Battle for Middle Earth 2. What a game that is, an absolute blast and I forgot how fun games used to be until I played this again.
Besides, you can play old games for the rest of your life considering how many great ones that have been released. I see no point in looking for new games anymore, it's just expensive and bad. Even the new "masterpieces" that many consider them, I find them boring and pretty average.
Lol that doesn't count, PS4 is still new.@@JC-qk5nt
The fact that i am picking up an unlit Gameboy and play a 20 years old game that keeps me glued to the screen for hours speaks volume.
And I'm playing midnight club Los angeles through backwards compatibility instead of having game pass subscription
I miss Gameboy color. Used to have one then I lent it to a friend and never saw it again.😞
@@Zack-cr9ic You can find a decent one for ~ 20-30$.
Or better, you can find a modern alternative that can play many things.
For me that was Super Mario Advance 2: Super Mario World. There's something magical about uncovering your dinky playtoy from 2005 and being even more impressed about how much fun could be packed into it.
I'm somehow more excited to authentically expreience Mario Kart Super Circuit for the first time, than I am to pay full price for Gotham Knights.
@rishovthegameri I started playing ac black flag again fun times
I used to play games that gave me tools to open a world of imagination, now I just get movies with buttons
They had those games back then too. Those were mostly RPG games. 15 minutes of video and 2 minutes of fighting followed with 10 more minutes of video. The final fantasy remake though wasn't too bad. Maybe a couple minutes of video and then back into the action and doing things. It was like that back in the day though and probably why I played that one. The cut scenes weren't that long.
You Say that like it's a bad thing
Couldn’t have said it better myself
Jo kinda like the movies with buttons now that I’m older lol
damn dats bars
I was born in 1981… and I feel as soon as trophies and achievements were added to consoles/gaming everything changed… you no longer wanted to play a story driven rpg or a single player adventure game for fun or escapism… you played it for the trophies… the achievement score… to be better than your friends and online strangers… or at the very least… “as good as them”
you're onto something. Seems like rather than add more content to the game, devs added ridiculous challenges.
Gotta get that 100%, even if it's not fun. Miss one in the middle? Hmm, then I'd have to play it again.. Maybe I should just check the list beforeha- aaand there's spoilers in there. Thanks guys. But at least I know I'm supposed to shoulderbash 10 enemies with the machinegun rocket launcher mech. Not one of course. 10. Heaven forbid you accidentally got it by actually playing the game normally. Gotta make it a 𝙘𝙝𝙤𝙧𝙚.
I was born in 1872. Marbles was an incredible game, and none of the video games of today can even come close.
I'm thousands of years old. Remember when Chess was all the hotness? You kids and their marbles...
@@MeowAboutI was born in 856, we used to raid and pillage neighboring villages as a game. You silly kids and your cute little proxies for war time.
I love this small thread
You mean 1972 ?
Yes, mables. It looks precious like a gemstone especially under the sunlight. And it sound nice when it hit.
Conkers
I’m 28. Games died for me when I realized I was chasing a dopamine hit.
The evolution of the internet / Social media opened up my perspective on life and myself quite dramatically.
I love gaming still but almost entirely for nostalgia. I had a lot of trauma in my childhood so I 100% used video games to escape reality. I’ve healed most of that trauma now and I am finding more enjoyment in simple things like walking around in nature, listening to music, and doing yard work / gardening.
The key for me was to figure out what I was running from within myself.
Addressing that has radically altered my perception of everything and enabled me to return to the present moment / have fun.
Love yourself first. All else is seeking to steal your joy.
Interesting. Are you going to make any videos on this topic?
I resonate with this heavy . I appreciate you sharing 🙏
Listening to music is a bigger dopamine hit fyi.
I’m sure you’re aware, but the internet and social media is all dopamine lol
Everything we do for enjoyment is a dopamine hit tbh . You just transitioned to new hobbies when the old ones weren’t hitting
devs and publishing companies have become egregiously lazy, incompetent and greedy and it will continue to become worse with new monetization methods and Ai replacing actual content, innovation and fun
Not to mention they’re allergic to actually finishing their damn games, every AAA game these days is a buggy mess
It's literally never the devs who are being lazy lmfao
@@SnoFitzroy yea, it’s the corporate higher-ups who don’t know the first thing about game development saying the game needs to be finished in 15 minutes
@@SnoFitzroy Actually a lot of devs these days are too lazy to code and bugfix things that would take 15 minutes, plenty of senior game devs call out modern devs for this
then they lose their businesses . funny how that turns around when they screw the customer.
Prime gaming was when you went to a store to buy a game. Now you go to a game and look at a store. Cosmetics should all have to be earned and grinded for not bought.
Heck, renting from blockbuster to play a game for a solid week was superb
My dad is 71 and I’m 22, we just started playing dk country last night. I’ve played it before with my brothers, but it’s been awhile. We only played for an hour, but I got more joy and fun out of that game than most modern games, and it’s 30 years old
Doing stuff with parents is very powerful , congrats ❤
How old is your mom?
@@paulharsh78underrated comment 😂
yep Until you play it on switch discover the rewind feature and now it gets boring
For me the reason is: since im an adult and have bills and responsibilities, i cant help but feel guilty when I game. My brain just yells at me that i have better things to be doing. Cleaning the house, taking my car to the shop, doing side work etc. i miss the old days 😪
Same for me. I've tried plan PTO from work so I could try to feel justified for immersing myself into a fantasy world of gaming and still couldn't do it :(
@@ThaRealest616 i also hate when (im VERY susceptible to binge-playing Minecraft) I decide to play Minecraft and try to limit myself to 1-2hrs after work, and before I know it im playing it all night and all day during my weekend and getting nothing done..
Just play casually. I’ll play for no more than a couple hours and it’s not everyday. Just every now and then.
@@AbonEsCabron ive tried to moderate like 5 times in the last 5 years and i never have the discipline 😂
Same
Damn I guess I’m group zero, a 40+ year old that grew up in the Atari era. I personally believe that gaming really started to change pretty recently at the start of live service phenomenon.
Yeah, once the PS4 and Xbox One came out I totally lost interest in console gaming. I saw the trend coming when I had an Xbox 360 and decided to just avoid the new (at the time) consoles. Saved all the money I would have blown on a PS4/Xbox One and used it to get a nice PC and never looked back.
I found that early MMORPGs were the best prior to the introduction of microtransactions. For example, early Runescape (like first 2-3 years of release), Dransik, Anarchy Online, early WoW. However, a large portion of the fun in those games were the social atmosphere (i.e. playing with friends/family). That said, microtransactions also kill those games because they act as barriers for friends/family who can't afford $300 worth of content just to play the game.
For non-MMOs, storyline/gameplay mechanics have completely disappeared for the most part. Games are released early and with a plethora of bugs.
We're the new boomers so nobody cares about us lol
I'm 45, been playing games most of my life. For me it actually feels like games purposely keep you in their game with grind, or super large words that waste time.
That was the biggest problem I had with FF7 remake. Great game if condensed but so much pointless filler and boring dungeon sections you need to spend half an hour just walking through. Half assed side missions that add nothing. Game would have been 10x better being half as long without all that.
Haha im 41 game it's such waste of times
it is only a waste of time if you dont enjoy it, you play with the wrong mindset.
@@wout123100 Enjoy mindless filler? I'd have enjoyed it and not thought it a waste of time if it was more entertaining or purposeful. I shouldn't have to 'change my mindset' to enjoy half assed content. They have proved they can do it with REBIRTH which is frankly fantastic. Don't make excuses for lazy devs and publishers that charge $70 for a game they artificially extended without effort. That's what's wrong with the industry today.
@@cyberspacedweller637✅
Every time I get back into gaming I get this sense that I’m wasting my time. That none of the accomplishments really matter and the time I’m putting into it could be spent doing better things. I look back at the thousands of hours I put into gaming from 18-22 and I get the sense that I wasted my potential on something which doesn’t even matter
Same!! I rarely pick up a game that ACTUALLY feels like I learned something new or gained a skill.
I kind of agree with you. I am 33 and just got back into gaming, picked up a Switch OLED and finally played Breath of the Wild for the first time, it was definitely fun and not a waste of time in my opinion. I think those mindless online multiplayer games like Fortnite, Call of duty warzone with no story behind it are the real time wasters. Single player games are like playing through a movie
The joy and entertainment people get from playing games makes them worthwhile and enjoying yourself matters in life.
I don't know.......I spent way too much time playing final fantasy tactics and soul caliber 4....but I still have fond memories....
The storyline to ff6 and 7 will stick with me forever......ff4s golbez theme is still awesome to hear for me....
You could spend it on better or more productive pursuits sure....but it's not wasted time like tiktok or sitcoms are.
@@paulc1014all games are a waste of time what is you talking about grandpa?
You think breath of the wild is gonna help you earn money? Can’t believe you’re that old and with that mentality
"They don't make em like they used to" is an old saying for a reason. Sometimes the newer products really are just worst.
100%. What can you do with an old nes/snes/gameboy/gba/ps1? Play games. What else? Well, ps1 plays music cd's, but that's it.
New consoles? Play games, watch youtube, surf the net, they're trying to be computers. I love my steamdeck because it's a gaming machine, nothing more - no pop ups, no ads, no notifications, no emails, no 'sign up for subscription' bs, just install your game, configure and play
@@Bjorick they're not talking about console functionality. Gameplay these days for the most part sucks.
Alan Wake 2, The Last of Us 2, Ghost of Tsushima, Horizon Forbidden West, Baldurs Gate 3 are just a few examples of really great games of the last few years, all have great gameplay, graphics and stories, yall are just so dramatic
@@stephencroft1612 "for the MOST PART sucks"
@@stephencroft1612 dumbass
Let. Games. End. That's a big part of it. Let games end, not become multiple year long commitments.
Same with movies. As long as people keep attending, they'll keep making them.
seriously, there so waaay too many games to get through now. we all dont have enough time to get to them all. if anything, I think too many games are way too long now with way too much filler content. it's hard for me to even start a game that I know is 40+ hours unless it's from my favorite franchises because I want to be able to finish my games. i'd rather have a game around 20-25 hours that was fleshed out and was high quality all the way through than a game double that length padded out with unnecessary grind or tasks that are a chore to play
Indeed. One of the best parts of enjoying a game is reaching the end knowing you’ve seen it all and beaten it. If it was great, you’ll go back to relive it at some point. If not you can sell it on. Most games today are dragged on with DLC you’ll never get in physical format that you have to keep buying to feel like you’ve got the most from a game
🚨 *The main reason gaming feels boring now is the overwhelming abundance and easy access to games.* 🚨
In the early 2000s, acquiring games required effort, like traveling across the city to buy a CD or DVD. With the rise of affordable internet, we can now download any game instantly. If a game doesn't impress us quickly, we move on to another one. Additionally, modern gaming PCs have huge storage capacities, unlike the limited 40GB hard drives of the past, allowing us to store countless games. This limitless selection creates confusion and reduces the time we spend enjoying any single game.
I'm pretty sure it's because the industry is flooded with microtransactions and other predatory practices.
Nothing was as good as James Bond on N64 with 10 of your friends in the living room. We had a 27 inch tv split 4 ways. 2 vs 2 teams.
Turbo mode, license to kill, slappers only. Good times
HEY!!!! NO SCREEN WATCHING!!!! 😂
N64 was and still is the sh!t. 007, both Zelda games, starfox, Conker's, Mario, Mario Cart etc. Nothing tops it.
Omg I miss split screens! RE4 og during those misson was so fun. Classic 64 with Mario cart or james bond yeab
Wasn't just Golden Eye, this stayed even into the first xbox and ps2 era. We used to have massive LAN parties with our entire group of friends and play the original Halo on the giant plasma tvs that were fatter than fridges. Had to put the players on the same tv on the same teams to keep people from screen peaking. Also did Smash Bros Melee and all sorts of good ass games. Just can't have those kinds of experiences anymore.
I think there are lots of reasons to explore here but as someone who grew up in the 80s and whose first console was the NES, I think there are so many fewer risks taken today, because it's far too expensive to take risks. Sequels and safe ideas take priority in this day and age.
I disagree, what takes priority in this day and age is the in-game store. That above all things. Notice how no matter what is broken, no matter what is bugged, the store always seems perfectly smooth?
Then comes safe ideas.
@@skylarc6063 Well, I actually COMPLETELY agree with you so I'm not sure that you actually disagree with me, it's just I was talking less about infrastructure-type things and more about game design ideas.
@@goods1224 Of course that's when sequels became a thing then. But there were SO many more new IPs then. Sequels were there but they were the minority by far. For every sequel there were 30 original IPs.
Yes along with sooooo many Remasters/remakes and people asking for em🤷♂️
I’m in my 50’s and I started with an Atari. In an OG gamer I guess, and I’m still playing. For me, the best time was 2 player co-op gaming. You sat on the couch with friends, hung out, and just had fun. I also used to challenge myself more in 1p mode. I had to play on the hardest settings and max out everything. I no longer do that to myself. I stay on easy mode and just chill. I just can’t believe sometimes that I went from pinball machines and Pac Man in the arcades to RDR2. I can’t wait to see how far VR headsets will push things.
Late 40's here. Recently fired up some Atari Combat with my visiting brother. The tanks with the ricocheting bullets was always our favorite setting...played that for hours and still as fun as it was in the early 80's!
@@stormykeep9213 my brother always kicked my ass in combat! Made me so mad 😠. Still, those were the days.
I'm 29 and I remember pinball, arcade machines and I remember the old consoles before Playstaiton and I remember Playstation 1. I also remember when world of War craft was the first major online game everyone together in minus second life and the Sims. Gaming was truly in a golden age by then
@@60wwedivaultima online released like 7 years before wow chief
My fondest memories are playing co-ops like Contra with friends.
You really caught me off guard with that first video call man, that was perfect please dont change
I'm 42 and no, the gaming doesn't feel the same as like 25 years ago even though I play a lot even now 😀 One of the biggest difference is that for years I have grown really impatient when it comes to trial and error in games. Back in the days it didn't matter if I got stuck in the games - like in RPG's and spent like hours and sometimes days wondering around until I found out solution or where to go. It didn't matter if I couldn't beat some boss and it took me like 100 tries. But for quite some time I feel that I don't have time for that nonsense because I have job, a family, friends etc. And in games I wanna enjoy the story and feel moderate challenge but not get caught by some situation where the diffculty spike is super hard and I would have to grind gazillion times to pass. So now once I have been stuck for some time I just look up a solution or guide online. So that is basically a thing that was also said in video that the gaming changes when you start to have a lot of responsibilities. Its because theres so much stuff to do and so little time - as we get older we tend to value the time more and more.
One thing that comes with age and lot of gaming experience is that you get way more critical towards the games. This means if the game is weak you just don't waste your time on it. But if you only wan't to play the masterpieces then that obviously leads to "there no good games to play". Also for a kid whos first assassins creed game is Assassins creed 13 it may be fun but for someone like myself who has played the series from beginning its more like "jesus christ, they keep churning out the same shit every year".
Secondly, yes the games HAVE changed. For example nowdays I don't believe people use their imagination nearly asmuch as we used to. I mean there are exceptions like minecraft but I mean generally. If your character is made of 10 pixels and the world looks bad and pixelated then you start to imagining in your head what something or someone would look like. Nowdays to don't have to - detailed and pretty picture is in your face. Also in games like Skyrim - in our heads we all created story and morality for our characters - some played noble - I don't steal, I protect the weak etc. others were like total dicks. We chose in wich city we wanted to live in and hoard loot etc. and all that was for some reason we created in our head.
Also I have to agree that the games have shifted way more towards competitive side and competitive side means that everybody have to be equal. Remember back in the days - in real time strategy games the different sides were rarely equal, in fighting games the characters were rarely equal. But that was okey because we played for fun. Nowdays theres those über pro level players and sometimes it feels that the game is made for them in the first place meaning that that game is lacking for casual players - if youre not pro and investing a lot of time and effort then you can't enjoy the best parts in game. Lets take Diablo 4 for example - even before the game was out we had a websites with calculated builds where computer takes into account all the items and special abilities and then crunches the numbers and suggests the best builds. So right of the bat people playing started to work towards certain goal and not discovering the aspects of game themselves.
So yeah, major problem is that the games should be fun and stress relievers but often when you boot up the game and trying to be good at it it creates even more stress.
Exactly what you said . Especially, TIME
Read ur whole comment and I enjoyed all of it. You explained and summarized what everyone else said too. Also what sucks for even RPG’S is people gatekeep shit. When elden ring came out, people already yelled at you if you used summons, didn’t 1v1 bosses, didn’t use items, a d just didn’t let you play how you wanted to play. Also, The metas of games just end up killing it. They only use X weapon or Y build and it ruins the game for any player but pros or sweats tbh.
I'm 54. I'm old. I'm tired. The world around me has changed. I've changed. I don't care about anything like I used to. I take lots of meds now for psychological problems. I used to be able to sink into games and disappear into those worlds, live in those moments. I've almost completely lost that ability. It's not the games. It's me. It's everything. The life had bled out of life.
You are not alone in that feeling or situation. All my friends in our age group feel the same. Now I mostly just watch RUclips videos of people playing the old games to get the nostalgic feel. That said, there are some old games on Steam and Epic Games for us. I played Thimbleweed Park and the new Monkey Island recently.
Wow, you literally explained me to a T. Exactly my situation.
Keep well.
I'm realizing that myself. I'm not your age yet but things happen in our lives and we just don't have time anymore.
Same here and I'm only 32 so go figure. The only new games I play are some Nintendo games and the magic is gone for me.
@@norwegianberserkerbear8227 Thank you :)
I've found myself doing that: instead of playing, just numbly watching people playing through Deus Ex or other old games that used to mean the world to me. Ya know...whatever, whatever. The specific titles, I guess, don't really matter.
I get these passing feelings I can't quite grab onto, shadows of the magic, transformative gaming feeling I can almost remember. It's bittersweet, but in that detached, semi-numb way - like waking up from a half-remembered dream.
There's so much loss in life. Loss, in a way, defines life as we get older - because, after a certain point, there's only decay: nothing new or exciting is added. We only lose things. We're left to watch - helpless against the inevitability - as all we had and all we were falls away piece by piece, that slow disintegration.
I found myself playing 7 Days to Die endlessly, although I guess it could've be any game without a real narrative that's just focused on mechanics. And after thousands of hours I felt so lost and hated myself - and yet I kept on playing, grinding the loss, pushing it deeper.
I can't feel anything now. And that extends across all aspects of life, with the lessening exception of my now-adult children. I don't know why we keep living for so long after our minds have gone stale, after we've lost any ability to feel and appreciate the magic and wonder of just living a life.
I still play Skyrim. I basically just use it to unwind because my job as a chef is very stressful and physically demanding. So, I kinda just decompress myself by decorating my own home, doing quest and roleplaying as a Dunmeri Wizard. I also feel that getting lost in there huge open worlds is enjoyable for me because I really like hiking in real life.
That’s my main thing with Skyrim right now too. So fun to just sit back and fuck around
I like Minecraft because I like the building and automation aspect of the game. Exploring is fun as well. I certainly don’t need people screaming in my ears or games try to rake me for every ruble.
Skyrim has no appeal to me because it's first person and first person is stupid.
@@ebogar42 it’s 3rd person too. Plus you can mod the shit out of it and make it into anything from a zombie apocalypse game to a dark souls game.
@@ebogar42 Skyrim can 100% be a third person experience if you want it to be. Have you ever even played Skyrim ? 😆😆😆😆😆
Born in 2003, currently 20 going on 21 and got both the PS1 and PS2 as my first consoles. I grew up during the 'golden age' of gaming where games didn't feel like such a chore to play. I started online gaming around 2011-2012 playing primarily shooter titles from Call of Duty and Battlfield (though I had already played the campaigns for previous titles). The main thing I noticed as the years progressed is that there was more and more monetization and add-on content for games than I cared to think about. Suddenly games became less about the experience and more about funneling players into making micro-transactions. Unfortunately, games like CoD: Advanced Warfare and Fortnite left a legacy of loot box gambling and the concept of the battle pass respectively. Online games nowadays try to give you "daily rewards" to incentivize you to keep your attention each day for long hours, so you get frustrated enough into buying something that may or may not make the experience easier. This, in my opinion, is what took the soul out of gaming. The other thing could be the fact that games have gotten a lot more political and began pushing more political narratives, which breaks that safe sense of escape from reality that gamers around my age and older usually crave because those are the memories we have associated to video games. Granted, I have changed too. I'm a college student who also works a job and often doesn't have time to play like I used to. I've have gotten out of being more competitive with games and have adopted a more casual style of play as a result. When I was in grade school, I could afford to play hours at a time but I'm just now realizing the responsibilities you must take on as an adult.
36 years old. Gaming is kind of like Christmas, it's magical as a kid, loses its luster as an adult, and it comes back alive when you have your own kids.
Right on point lol. Helldivers 2 right now!
Couldn’t agree more.
I just want a competitive shooter like SOCOM or R6 Siege before it went woke now I just collect platinum trophies for a hobby the games are just the means now crazy tho I went back and did syphon filter 1-3 and tbh I’m not sure how I figured out how to beat them as a kid
I'm 52 and started my gaming life at 4 when my dad brought home a Pong machine , I think it was a Sears TeleStar. At 7 years old I bought an Atari 2600 with my own money from doing chores and saving holiday gift money.
As to my favorite era, I'd have to say the Dreamcast for how new and experimental the games were. Soul Calibur was still new, Crazy Taxi and Jet Grind Radio with their cell shading and awesome soundtracks as well as the encouragement to act like a complete derelict graffitying buildings and driving in a generally Cra -----aaaaaaazy manner with 😮 horrified / aroused passengers, depending on how well you stuck the landing. Shenmue, Skies of Arcadia, Space Channel 5, Seaman. Even Resident Evil Code Veronica with it's then new polygon based moving camera presentation. Online games were new like Phantasy Star Online or Chu Chu Rocket. Point being it wasn't just Assassin's Creed 11 or the 20th Call of Duty or 50th Madden game or Halo 10. There were so many new / improved / divergent experiences to be had.
i am 34 and i am so disappointed by how stale everything is that i dont think ill make it to 50, ill give up after a 2-3 years if things continue to be this boring lame depressing and pathetic.
@@arkgaharandan5881 I'm sorry to hear that. I think there will be a rennaisance in indie games, Single and Double 'A' games while the Triple 'A' will take time to get their mojo back, if they ever do. Sega is making a 5 game comeback, with new Shinobi, Crazy Taxi, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage and Jet Grind /Set Radio games which I'm very eager to get my hands on. I enjoyed Resident Evils 2 and 4 REmake, though 3 was a dissapointment. Silent Hill is making a comeback, fingers crossed. I wish Elon Musk would buy Konami, lol. They have such a treasure trove of classics and arcade games just begging to be redone. Castlevania, Contra, Soccer, Blades of Steel Hockey 🏒, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, Gladius and many more, plus Metal Gear and Silent Hill. The new Final Fantasy 7 could be good, and the new Tekken. Racing I enjoyed Grid Legends recently. Don't give up just yet. Game on, dude.
Those divergent experiences still exist.
Yes, especially in the last decade or so, we've seen a major stall in the AAA space when it comes to innovation and games as fun or thoughtful experiences. Instead, they've leaned harder and harder into games as a cash grab.
But, indie/A and AA games still provide the service I keep seeing people asking for, and they do it very well. They aren't the games that have the biggest marketing budgets, but they are absolutely out there if you take a few moments to look around.
We have a full on renaissance happening in a wealth of genres. Not to mention the cool stuff that defies conventions and categorization all together.
Games I've personally played, off the top of my head, include: in the emerging cozy genre, that really kicked off with Stardew Valley, gems like Unpacking, Ooblets, Night in the Woods, and Spiritfarer; horror titles, both psychological and survival, like Fran Bow, Doki Doki Literature Club, Slay the Princess, Omori, Dredge, Pathologic, Signalis, and the entire Amnesia series; western and eastern style RPGs like Disco Elysium, CrossCode, Sea of Stars, Bug Fables, and Undertale (if you care to go back that far); a whole slew of metroidvanias, that really kicked off with Hollow Knight, but also amazing games like Rainworld, Islets, Bloodstained, Ender Lilies, the Ori and Blasphemous games, and others; less my thing, but a selection of titles from the newly minted boomer shooter genre, and much older, but no less beloved, rogue-like/lite stable; and, a bunch of games that don't really hit like anything else, like Superhot, Hi-Fi Rush, Neon White, Jusant, Journey, Celeste, Tunic, and so many, many more.
There are a few AAA games a year that actually feel good to play. But, the best stuff isn't being made by big corporations anymore. They're being made by smaller teams that really want to push games forward into new frontiers, and update older genres with new twists.
These devs are succeeding to a degree where we find ourselves with an embarrassment of riches. Which is why I'm always somewhat flummoxed when someone says "games suck now" with a straight face.
Do you still have your PONG Unit? I still have mine...lol... It's amazing how that thing has survived my life changes.
@@maximvsdread1610 No. That was my dad's anyway. My first was the Atari VCS. Fast forward: I currently have working: Playstation 1 games that I can play on my replacement PS2 slim. A replacement PS3 second not quite slim but no backward compatibility model. A PS4 first gen with a hard drive . A replacement Gamecube with non OEM Amazon knockoff controllers because Nintendo controllers never last (see also: why I don't have a Switch lol). It broke, but I still have 50 X - Box 2002 Era games. The Green Monster lol.
1987 “boomer” here, to me AAA gaming became weird when it became all about online play and competitive landscape.
There’s nothing wrong with people wanting to make it big into competitive and aiming for winning prizes, but to me gaming was never about becoming some sort of superstar, it isn’t about becoming Cristiano Ronaldo or Tom Brady, it was about enjoying a story, more similar to watching a movie or reading a book… some of the best stories I’ve experienced have been in videogames (e.g. Final Fantasy Tactics)… and nowadays its even weirder not only dor me… I really I don’t feel like the current “game as a service” model is any good to anyone, nor competitive players not solo players like me
This is also my reason why games nowadays is boring. Its all about leveling up, paying to win and its all about bragging
Bruh you're not even GenX.
@@myfakeaccount4523he is a Millenium.
@@tabutog Spot on. Its more about Clout chasing and Ego tripping about what skins you have, what maps you have, and what rank you are. Its all Bullocks.
Tactics is legit I started on 6 loved it then 7 was mind blowing then tactics was just amazing and 8,9,10 but I still play tactics and 8 to this very day tactics has all kinds of mods after X the series died for me
Im personally tired of the best weapon in the game only being available in the store.
Our soul died from responsibilities and the 9-5 grind.. gotta find ways to keep the inner child alive
9 to 5 sounds like a dream job for most people. Imagine being able to leave your office at 5Pm!
Y’all are getting home with daylight left?
I'm blessed, self employed indie game developer, work from home, set my own schedule. But we all grind - stay strong, press on!
You keep it alive by smoking weed. Without it games and other things you did growing up don't seem as fun anymore. Our brains change. We get more mature. We've also been involved with it forever and it's not new anymore. It's like pussy. It's good for a couple years and then you get bored of it and would love something different. It gets old.
@@ebogar42 then why are old games still more fun to play than new ones? The quality makes a big difference. Guild Wars 1 or Smash Bros Melee are ovjectively more fun than Cyberpunk or Modern Wokefare
GTA San Andreas and NFS Most Wanted on the ps2 were the golden days of gaming
old BMW turn me wild...
Metal Gear Solid on PS1 and Halo on the OG Xbox was the golden days
Every generation have its own golden days, for me the peak were the 90s beat em ups and fighting games. But you are right. Games were great until the beginning of the online.
Born in 93. I noticed the shift during the Ps3/360/wii days. It went from a split screen experience to having to pay subscriptions and always online to constant updates as of recently. There’s very few games where you can invite friends over or enjoy with the family and i feel that’s what made gaming feel the best is that they could be shared.
Yeah my all time peak was the first gears and going over my friends how’s and playing whatever we did lol full ass room all stoned after school now we all play in dark rooms in separate rooms
@@brucefly3612 It’s way over priced and it’s always online to track you and your actions. Think about GTA6 they’re watching your decisions now, next thing you know you’ll have feds at your door for thought crimes. It’s a doorway into becoming an artificial being destroying your organic free will. It’s worse because it’s literally conspiring against you bro.
@@CLos93. Hell yeah brother man! Didn’t smoke weed when playing but i remember playing soul caliber with a friend that introduced me to weed when we were teens.
Same here lol it was soul Calibur 2 the one with link in it..one of my friends who was like 9 years older got me into weed i remember play that, and phantasy star online halo 2@@NatureBoi0
I started gaming hard in 2004 with WoW so playing based off a sub is nothing new. OSRS players agree.
Great point on the responsibility part. I think it's partly that AAA games specifically have gone down in quality, but also a lot of us just have more responsibility and frankly less time to sink hours into games.
I know if I tried to play for even a few hours without stopping I'd feel super guilty because inevitably something always comes up
For me Games don't feel the same anymore because back then you bought a Game and got a Game. Now when I buy a Game I get an advertisment to buy the rest of the Game I bought.
😂 that's a fact
@iiblackwolfiii this is a fact tbh it feels like that and it's sad :/
Literally!!! Coins, hearts,
I believe the five major things that for me changed the way I feel about gaming are : 1. The element of surprise. I remember walking inside a gaming rental store and been astonished by all the selection of games available and everything felt magical, like entering a candy store. 2. Longevity in a game. I remember playing weeks on end games like Super Mario and Zelda without getting bored. 3. It gave me a profound sense of joy, of amazement. I cannot remember the last time a game actually made me laugh or brought deep emotions in me. 4. Pure immersive play that keeps you on the edge from start to finish. One example is Contra from Konami. Amazing, I remember playing this game until my eyes almost popped from it's sockets. I am not joking. I eyes were hurting so much at the time that is took more than 30 minutes for my mom to make me feel better again. I really thought I was either having an epileptic attack or that I was dying or both at the same time. 5. There was no online play and social media garbage. You had a totally finished game that you usually could finish in about a week or less. This left you enough time to bring back the game at the local renting store and either rent the same game if it was not reserved or get another one. (My extra point) 6.The games where high quality products and in high abundance. The game industry back then was blooming and every game developer was trying to out best the others with amazing games.
- As a kid, everything was new and like magic. Now as an adult, I feel like I have already seen everything a hundred times.
- As a kid, finishing levels and tasks actually felt like achievements. Like I was good at something. Games were a challenge. As an adult, it's nothing special to finish a game anymore. In the process, I learned nothing new and achieved no notable skills.
Facts the only time I can play a game longer than half an hour is if it has a very good storyline. Other than that i feel like im wasting my life and could be doing something more productive with my time
Right this has really put me into the grove of finding a meaningful video game. This has actually cut a huge dent in my collection. I figured no more endless killing zombies yet I still like grinding games
Yeah as an adult the brain matures and stops seeing things as new and exciting
@@LilXancheXyou haven't seen everything life has to offer. Just the shit your used to
@@slipinsliderfinally someone says that. Most people who say this stuff always play the same genre of games by the same developers on the same platform, and then they wonder why it doesn’t feel “new”.
Do you usually play FPS games? Try an RPG. You play RPGS? Try racing games. You’ve never owned a Nintendo console? You’ve got hundreds of games you’ve missed out on. Play Zelda, Mario, Pokémon, Pikmin, Animal Crossing. These games are incredibly unique.
I mean, gaming is great in 2024. If you do not recognise that, games aren’t your problem - you are.
Sure, there’s a lot of rushed, terrible, AAA games nowadays. But are we gonna just ignore all the good ones? I mean, just last year we had:
1. Zelda: Tears Of The Kingdom
2. Marvel’s Spider-Man 2
3. Baldur’s Gate 3
4. Super Mario Bros. Wonder
5. Super Mario RPG
6. Alan Wake 2
7. Lies Of P
8. Resident Evil 4
9. Final Fantasy XVI
10. Pikmin 4
I'm 25 and I say video games changed when things went from video games being a passion art thing that made money... to a bunch of companies trying to create a formula for a good game... This led to a lot of modern games being very formulaic and similar... All modern first person shooter games play mostly the same with some light variation based on the franchise... Older games are typically more unique and varied
I have to say as someone who is about to turn 35, it’s not about having enough time to become the best at a game anymore. It’s about finding the games that spark real joy in me and truly grab my interest and giving those ones my time. And I’ve had to accept that those types of games have changed overtime. And that’s not just because the industry has changed, people change too.
I agree with you on that. I'm planning to switch over to PC because the games which interest me more are the smaller ones from indie studios that don't follow the main trends.
I'm 51 got back into it loved the wii era gamed since early 80s infact the late 70s... love gyro ai ing and controlsmthat make sense got a gaming pc 2023 built top spec still play the switch more.. trying to find a game worth my time is hard and I prefer to gyro overlay older games and blast them at 4k 120hz 60hz min the RE GAMES AND REMAKES were games worth playing and iv also done all the metro games..lonely horror games with 3d audio in headphones is my go to
Yeah, when I hit 30 a switch just flipped in my brain which made it crystal clear that being top on a leaderboard means nothing if I am not having fun.
not really, go and buy an old tv and an old console and get all the parts for it, and sit down and play it for a week or two weeks, and only play those. You'll realize that you haven't changed much, but the industry CERTAINLY has, there's no longer any love or joy or pride, it's just nice graphics, a generic story and the same game play every other game has
Old games weren't perfect, they were unique, and that's part of their charm - but you need to experience it to understand. Me and friend bought a SNES and some games and we played the HELL out of them when the modern consoles sat gathering dust. I had kids, he didn't, so i gave it to him, but damn do i regret it now, as emulators are NOT the same
@@Bjorick Yeah, have my PS2 and Dreamcast plugged in at the moment and been playing NFL2k1 on the Dreamcast and it's soooooooooo much better than the newer Madden games. Just night and day in regards to difference. I can't score 100+ points a game and blowout the AI and the matches are actually fun and competitive.
The current season I am 9-5 with 3 games left and I am working hard to try and get the wild card.
Last time I played Madden I went 17-0 on all-madden difficulty and won the superbowl.
Also, been playing GTA San Andreas on the PS2 and it's just super fun. I'm not mindlessly doing the online mode for hours and actually feel engaged. Playing Smackdown 2 and Here Comes the Pain as well and those are some solid wrestling games and less realistic than the newest title but more fun.
I don't know exactly what happened but newer games just lack the "fun" factor of older ones.
Greed for money has single handedly killed all industries
32 years old. For me Gaming chaned exactly with the Xbox 360 and PS3, companies and game studios started to focus on making games sell as much as possible, way more than ever before and that's when gaming started changing for the worse (generally speaking). But, it also started to see the rise of the indie devs which tend to have the most fun games nowadays. Now, wanting a game sell as much as possible is actually a good goal, it's how you achieve that goal that can turn a good game into a horrible one.
I was born in 1988 and this was my experience as well. Change is inevitable, but im partial to the experience we got to grow up with
The Xbox 360 and PS3 was the last great era in gaming for me,after that it started getting weird but I’m glad things are getting a little back on track with single player and indie games being great.
@@jumpman2326indies is the future
Im 44 and still game now when I can, you hit the nail on the head with this vid. Life gets in the way and you long for those easy childhood gaming sessions with your mates
This is going to be a bit of a longer one, so strap in.
Born in 1996, started gaming in 2000 (briefly on the Amiga, the rest on PC). I've also been in the gaming industry professionally for a couple of years. I can tell you 100% that this isn't a mere nostalgia/you miss how you felt as a kid problem.
A lot of great points were raised during the video, primarily: the corporatisation of video games and the push towards online multiplayer. These are interlinked, because games nowadays are being made to sell to the lowest common denominator, meaning simple, easy to learn game mechanics and instant gratification. Throw multiplayer on top of that and you create social pressure from your peers to play the latest, most popular game, usually an FPS. It's all about drawing in the most customers by having an easily accessible game designed to make you want to play it with your friends, who in turn also become customers.
This has had such an enormously bad influence on video games. You're spot on with your observation about when it happened. Around 2011-2012 is when it started really going downhill. Call of Duty and Assassin's Creed were seeing great success with their year after year release model. Game studios started releasing games in buggy states because internet speeds were going up and they could just shrug it off and patch it later. Steam was also massively on the rise in that period, which only contributed further. For AAA companies, this signalled to treat video game creation as a conveyor belt process. And Team Fortress 2 introduced ManCo crates at the end of 2010. I don't need to comment on microtransactions.
Chase is also spot on, though he doesn't realize how much. Developers do look towards other games, see what works and copy that into their own game. This process is literal. I've sat in design meetings in a AAA company where there was an entire slideshow of pictures and videos from other games. The meeting would go like this: "From game A, we want this feature. From game B, we want this and this feature." So next time you see something and think how it reminds you of another game, there's a reason for it. It's not that the developers wanted a feature like it but couldn't think of a better implementation, it's that the developers never put any thought into it to begin with beyond seeing that it worked already for another game.
I could go on for hours about this topic. The point is that what so many feel about the change in video games is not to be explained away with medieval peasant levels of logic like "The world has changed!" or "You have changed!" or "You are older!". No, games have fallen off drastically because around 2010, they became a business instead of an art.
I'll cap this off with a personal story. In 2020, I played Deus Ex. The original one from the year 2000. It was my first experience with that game. I had never even seen gameplay of it before. To this day, having played the game as it was in 2000 a full two decades later, Deus Ex remains the pinnacle of video games for me. That year, I also played the original Doom and loved it. The next year, 2021, I played Dark Messiah of Might & Magic (2006) and it's now one of my favorite games as well.
That kind of magic to video games is so much rarer now. Baldur's Gate 3 today oozes with that same soul and passion we used to enjoy back in the day. I can only hope its success will lead us back onto the right track.
Thanks for your well thought out reply.... You've shed alot of light on what's going on in the industry. I even hate playing the ftp games on my phone more n more cuz I know compared to the paid ones, they've probably spent more time on getting us to buy something in the game than the game itself. Modern gaming is such a waste of good technology.
With profit margins at all time highs the focus on creativity has taken a back seat to monetization.
Like any business, companies can only get away with what the consumers allow them to. Shite like this for ex: As per UbiI Soft, "gamers need to get comfortable with not owning their games"....sums up the corporate mindset right here.
I certainly think the grow up think has a merit, because let’s all be real everything is great when we are young and we were easily pleased back than, a lot of games people from my time say it had great stories, are just terrible in comparison to the best novels and movies, however I do agree the corporation of gaming affected the industry in the negative way as whole, even though there is still a lot of good games being made if you know where to look for them, I used to think Zelda games were wonderfully written, but now days I would rather just pick a fantasy book to read since the writing there is just so much better than most rpgs.
@@Getloose360here is the thing, gamers always been easily pleased this is why companies can get away with doing shit business corporations, because they always did it in the past, they just became better at it.
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As somebody that’s been a hard-core gamer my entire life and been playing since I’ve been four years old so now that’s 40 years, The answer is simple. The reason why a lot of people feel that older games are better is because in some ways they are!! For example games were made with passion and the developer cared about the quality in the game, Games were usually completed without day one patches, DLC,season passes, and micro transactions did not exist. (DLC, micro transactions, and season passes are big reason why games are not as good today) back in the day the developer made a good quality game and then moved onto the next one they weren’t trying to nickel and dime you by cutting out things, and when they had a good idea or how to improve the game got a sequel. Look at a game like king of fighters for example, every year you got a sequel if that series was made today which is still is you would get one a generation. Now don’t get me wrong there are some great things about modern games that make gaming really enjoyable today, Graphics, story, sound, and difficulty is all nail down really well. Modern games are still very enjoyable games as a service is not
That's why I mostly go for indie games nowadays. An indie game studio is probably one of the worst ways to make profits, hence many of those developers are super passionate and just want to create something good.
Exactly. It's not us that changed. It's the game devs who wanted to make passionate games only to get hired at EA to make battlepass ideas and marketing techniques. No longer just "I think this story is cool let's add as much as we can to make this the best game. "
The best game ever made is never gonna be found by the dude who just plays fortnite and overwatch
@@718NecroLeX it’s definitely not us where the hard-core gamer‘s, we are experienced we know what a good game is!!! (There are many modern games we really like) Now I know everybody has a different favorite game mine is Lunar the silver star on Sega CD (there are many versions of it but that was my first experience with it) with that said anybody that would pick fortnight as their favorite game. I don’t respect their gaming opinion at all!!! Also I think part of the problem is is people like to call them selves a gamer and they’re really not a gamer somebody that played it abundance of games and something to earn. There are a lot of people that casually enjoy video games but they’re not gamers, playing the new COD or GTA once a year doesn’t make somebody a gamer.
@@SaHaRaSquad i disagree, many indie developers are greedy and more concerned about putting their crappy game on as much platforms as possible all the while making sure to include their name in big letters before the title screen
@_Majoras I think that's the corporate giants who milk a game as soon as they get bought by a larger publisher. But indie devs need to eat more than anyone so I can allow it when the game costs $8-$30. @michaeldietz2648 it really is when games started being made for non gamers that they failed us
Born in the early 90s. Games were better with anything pre 2010. My reasoning is big gaming companies didn't milk the same franchise, no DLCs, PVP Internet etc. I think all these elements made gaming soulless.
But most games doesn't include those things, but the gaming experience still feels different. But yes even if some games doesn't include those elements they are influenced by most popular games!
My reasoning just like with Hot wheels and Ninja Turtles. I grew out of the shit. I got older. The only way I really enjoy them like when I was a teen or kid is smoking weed. Our brains changed. Games didn't change. They're actually way better now in many ways even with all the pay to win players.
2010 the micro transactions 2015 the woke
"lucky for me I was poor AF" 😂 you got an instant subscription for that line
We are at the beginning of a market correction. Moving from away from unsustainable AAA to AA and indie titles. We are also moving away from micro transactions.
I'll believe it when I see it - microtransaction are where most of the profit is made - why would game studios move away from the most profitable aspect of what they do? As long as people keep spending we're gonna keep seeing it.
@@notyourdad Oh micro transactions are around to stay but they seem to have been mostly reduced to skins.
Hopefully so.
this is whats most likely. people often talk about a gaming market crash but the reality is that its more like gradual changes.
@@joedatiusThere won't be a market crash. That's delusions of people who have come to hate Modern games for their reasons. At this point Nintendo is very profitable, Xbox is profitable and even PlayStation whose Budgets are insane is profitable. though they need to change their budgeting because otherwise they won't be profitable for long.
I started playing games in the NES era. So I'm quite old, but games have only felt really different within the last 6 years. I'm convinced something with games has fundamentally changed with how games are made. There's something that's less fun or interesting about modern games.
Agree completely. While I’ve changed and have less time I still enjoy gaming within the adult parameters. In many ways gaming is better than ever but it’s only the last 6-8 years half the industry has gone downhill.
unreal engine
@@southsidetherealest2860 No, a game engine does not affect how fun a game is. It a choice of the developers. How to design the game, what to focus on, what things should be in the game. That kind of thing.
@@Sekhatt im just saying unreal 4 and 5 has a weird vibe to it I dont know what it is its a lil fruity and fake plastic toy looking engine its lifeless my opinion although I have seen comments that kinda express the same thing
@@southsidetherealest2860 its volumetric lighting i swear
Born in ‘95. Grew up with an SNES and PS1, but I’d say I became really “coherent” for video games in the PS2 and Xbox era. I had both. For me the shift started at the end of 360 era, with day 1 dlc and mtx. But I truly felt the shift in 2013. My parent’s really broke their backs to get me and my little brothers an Xbone when I was home for Christmas freshman year of college. We booted up the new Forza game, since I had been playing it since the first game on Xbox. When we were going through the menus, I found that you coupd buy individual cars for $2.99 each. That was the moment I truly felt the shift.
Born in 81, I've been around for most of the history of home consoles and computer games except for Pong. Though games have changed a lot, the market for indie games has steadily increased at the same time. I might have lost interest in the biggest games a long time ago, but I'm sure there are new games being released right now that I would love. I think the reason I don't play them is mostly because I changed. Over time my responsibilities as a father and at my job took over. It became more gratififying to do personal coding projects or tinker around the house: things that makes me better at my job or benefits my family. I might go into a new phase of playing a lot of games when I get even older and things slow down.
I don’t want to pay subscriptions, battle passes, loot boxes, pay to win. I prefer fun which games don’t have anymore.
There are plenty of fun games that don’t have those things, you’re just gonna do your due diligence a bit more. Watch reviews online from people who have played the games you are interested in and you can decide from there what you wanna get.
@@regalcatnetwork8068I personally do so, and I have noticed that I waste more time searching for a game each year. But when I find one, I often enjoy it as much as when I was a kid. So I don't think that I have changed that much. But games are full of trash now.
The fact that you no longer own your games in a lot of cases and you have to pay for things even after you already purchased the game is what's destroying the gaming industry.
@@Zack-cr9icI wouldn’t think it was bad if they weren’t trying to make it the only option 😂 but honestly it’s going that way no matter what but then we’ll see a rise of free and cheap games from individuals already starting happening because the woke
Gaming changed when micro transactions entered the market
I’d say when dlc came out. That’s when I quit personally.
@@grumpynomad3551 that makes no sense
@@TwpsynMawr it makes sense if you think about it. Don’t hurt that little brain too much.
I am 28 (right between the two groups) and feel that gaming really started to change when the Xbox One/PS4 era hit off. There was more live service battlepass stuff than simple multiplayer/single player experiences, classic titles and IPs were botched, many titles stopped focusing on local multiplayer/split screen, a lot of games that launched broken were just worried about their monetization, and a lot of the games lost their “social” features such as pre/post game lobbies, file shares, etc. But during this era I was in college and a lot of my friends switched console sides or stopped gaming on the current gen. I spent a lot of time solo playing like Battlefield 1 (great game of that gen) in a private chat or discord call with a friend on a totally different game. We didnt have as much time with life, school, and work but it felt like the lightning in a bottle of the previous gen was gone and it was a hassle to connect with others in gaming. I remember some games needing a reddit or discord to find players to join your heist or raid that you needed 4-6 friends for and there wasn’t a “joinable lobby.” The 360/Wii/PS3 era having both peak social online features AND the local play with like 4 player split screen or party games made it easier to enjoy with others. I still game today but 90% of my current gen or nostalgia games are playing single player games when I get time for a break from teaching.
I grew up before online games starting with the gameboy color and N64 and was there for original Halo 2 xbox live and the height of the 360 days. It was hard to see gaming change that way and in many ways touched on in the video. Instead of games changing to be “innovative and creative” it was changing in ways that seemed more lazy and predatory that wasnt for the benefit of the gamer. I hope that devs and gamers both come together to make a better future for gaming that doesnt make us have to ask this question. (Sorry for writing a book lol)
Search up the term "Enshittification" and you'll understand that pretty much everything is like this now.
I miss split screen games too 😢
36. The beginning of the end was when Microsoft tried to sell the 360 as being required always online to use the damn thing. That’s the first time I became aware of the blatant greed. It’s all just need different versions of that event to me.
Born in 89, mostly played games on PC growing up. What changed is that developers started focusing on multiplier instead of single player campaigns. Instead of making a good product that people would buy once and then play, they changed to just focus on online gameplay and milk players over and over again for money.
I was born in '82. My first console was the NES. I think when games started going digital, with the PS3, that's when it started to change the most. I miss the days of physical video game magazines and strategy guides adding to the fanfare of the games at the time. Also, the third party cheat systems like Game Genie and Gameshark that opened up the way you played a game, especially due to the fact that as kids, we didn't have a lot of disposable income, so we were stuck with a lot of the same games we already had. We needed new ways to play them. For me, the 90s just seemed way cooler.
Im 41 as well and co sign this.. 90s games we’re created with the sole purpose of generating a fun experience for the user.. not for trapping and mining them like a resource
I enjoy being awful at games. It gives me way more enjoyment than other gamers. I DON'T enjoy being awful at online multiplayer games, which is why I barely ever play any. Those ARE only fun when you're good at them.
I appreciate how much work went into a this video. Thank you.
The phone call and lotion part is crazy😂
Sexy as hell! 😂
For me the main difference is when you got a game back then it was the final version, you didn't need to wait for updates and patches, you didn't need to pay extra for 100% the game is final and as intended. You found a game break glitch or exploit cool easy mode, you want to 100% it you would generally have a feel when you get to 100% and so on. Now it just like pay 70 dollars for an incomplete sometimes buggy mess and have no end goal objective as we will release dlc after dlc. You found a exploit ban or you can only exploit the game by giving us money.
Just an FYI - this is actually a misconception - there were revisions of old games back in the nes and snes era, but they weren't common - final fantasy 3 had at least 3 revisions in the US, if i'm not mistaken
I agree with your point, but just saying - there are plenty of examples of updates from as far back as nes (not sure about atari, but with the way they mass produced game carts, i doubt it :P )
Just an FYI - this is actually a misconception - there were revisions of old games back in the nes and snes era, but they weren't common - final fantasy 3 had at least 3 revisions in the US, if i'm not mistaken
I agree with your point, but just saying - there are plenty of examples of updates from as far back as nes (not sure about atari, but with the way they mass produced game carts, i doubt it :P )
Being born 1988 was the best in hindsight for me being a gamer. Get to experience the older stuff naturally and see things evolve.
Because they don't release games anymore.
They treat their customers like lab rat game testers, and release a half finished game at release date, let the customers find all the problems and glitches, and paying the developer to do so, and then release a finalized game a year later, once the hype for the game, and it's player base, has long been forgotten about.
Games are dead before they even come out these days, because they keep releasing 50% of a game on drop date.
BASED
I'm 31 now and in the last 2 years, my joy for gaming has severely declined. I still love playing games but it just doesn't hit the same no more. With work, life and responsibilities, it feels like another chore to sit down and play games.
Exactly. But ask yourself is it a chore for the old games or the new games? Play 2-3 games from the 2000s then play 2-3 games you love from the current era. If you still feel this way then it's a chore regardless. If you only feel this way with eothet category then it's the games itself. I agree though. It feels like a chore to me too. A pointless chore and work. Achievements mean nothing. Steam doesn't have anything for example like if you accomplish all the achievements in at least 5-10 games in your library you'll get a discount in other games with points for example. That would be a concept that would make me play. At the end of the day a lot of games are pointless and you waste your life playing it. People who are 30-36 or 40 hard-core playing it with the 14-24 years Olds are usually the cesspool of the adult world and don't have anything going for them. They have time to waste and spare. I enjoy my old games though. I need games that are engaging and not good difficult. I played gamedec and played it for hours. Was addicted to it but then when I realized the ending was shitty and every ending would be shitty? I Uninstalled it despite the fact that I was engrossed in it cause it was confusing at some points plus it made all that effort pointless.
I'm 18 years old and i have my last months in high school rn so i yet to have those great responsibilities that you mentioned, like a job, paying rent etc.. My biggest worry right now is choosing a university, so i game pretty comfortably after I've studied everything.
My point is that even now, when i have almost all the time in the world, gaming just doesn't feel right. New games are all about profit or they're not original at all / boring. When playing a new AAA game there's just this feeling in me that I've played this before somewhere/sometime.
As a result when I'm gaming I'm almost always playing something "old" like the og total war games, fallout 3/new vegas GTA SA, etc... Problem is that the supply of old games that are in my interest area are running out, as much as i want to play skyrim or oblivion all day, after the 100th playtrough even the best games become boring.
As a result of this I often find myself just mindlessly browsing youtube to maybe catch a good game that i haven't played before, sadly 9/10 times i don't find anything.
If new games continue to go down this corporate greed filled road I'm worried that after a while there'll be nothing for me to play.
Of course there are exceptions (thank god), Elden Ring was fire af, and even tho i had to wait a year for cyberpunk that was really good too.
My advice, if you've a similar problem, is to find 1 or maybe even more (preferably multiplayer ) game that you can play anytime without getting bored (leage of legends or battlefield, maybe even WOW for example. My choice is Hell let Loose btw.).
Play a couple hours / rounds of it, even better if you play with friends and in between playing and not playing that game, try to find something new, something that you've never tried before and play that. If you get bored of said game, just go back to your go-to hop on/off game and repeat the process, this is how i stay entertained.
Good Luck ! And thanks to anyone who read this
hey if good games you haven't played before are what you're in search of then maybe my (not yet finished) top favorite games list is just what you need
that or you could always sub to some of the numerous indie game showcase channels
"New games are all about profit" is the biggest bullshit i've ever heard because i heard the exact same statement 10 years ago and gaming was in a much much worse state back then, gaming is, was and will always be about profit.
There are a lot of great games out there, both single player and multiplayer, give them a try instead of browsing youtube, i've been giving a try to some games that i thought i would never like and they've been some of the best experiences i've ever had
@@matitone no they actually aren't , some games are made because their devs have a passion for them.....
@@iamLI3 you're right about that, i exaggerated a bit because i'm tired of seeing people saying that new games are made for profit when that has always been a thing, the games made by passionate devs existed back then just like they exist nowadays
@@matitoneTake a look at the release of any new AAA game and compare it to any PS3 game release.
Every company loves profit. That's a fact. But the PS3 games were sold only after they're completely finished developing. That's how they made money. They had to be 100% sure that the development is finished. And the new games ? They release the half baked games first, then start raining stupid patches after patches. Why ? Because the investors and shareholders want that hype money and force devs to release games as fast as possible to generate profits.
That's also the reason why Indi games are more fun to play since they're developed by a smaller group of people who have no deadlines and can finish gamd development before releasing it.
Nice video, I'm 23 and I grew up playing mainly ps2 and to a lesser extent ps3, I really started seeing the biggest difference in gaming just after the ps4 and xb1 came out, the changes I noticed were mainly that games began to come out less and less polished despite graphical improvement (which still blows me away to this day) but I think personally for me, it took accepting that I as an individual have changed just as much as the gaming space as a whole, and once I did that and stopped stressing about what the most popular game is, and just played what I wanted, I found my love for gaming again
I'm 25 and feel the exact same way. That "charm" video games had just took a fucking plunge when the 8th gen consoles released.
Nobody talks about the globalization of gaming markets and how game design is catered towards "a market" of players than a "niche" of players. The older gen consoles had bit more whacky and out of the box game designs that you don't see anymore, yes there are lot more indie games today especailly on PC, but most of them are already in pre-existing big genres like deck builders, roguelites or another 16bit JRPG. There is incredibly low amount of risks taken on triple A game design today
As someone who plays exclusively single player games this video is hard to relate to. It seems like a lot of the feelings stem from multi player experience
For me definitely
well, it also depends on what games you play and buy. Total war games are great, they have to push out a new game EVERY YEAR - and they're buggy and hae tons of dlc, even though they're single player
Final fantasy is nothing like it used to be, but i still LOVE a dragon quest game. single player games are far less common and usually, the story seems far inferior to what it was in the past (again, except dragon quest and a few rare examples - but for the most part, single player does seem like a 'we'll tack it on so people won't complain but we will NOT put effort into it' scenario)
Exactly. I'm 23 and every single one of my gamer friends play online and for them is about competition and winning the match. On the other hand, me being a patient gamer, I manage to enjoy every single title. Currently playing The Witcher 3.
@@angelpayano6813 patient single player gaming is the key
I think ALL GAMES should have a single player mode((I'M LOOKING AT YOU anthem
Almost 50 years old here, gaming changed noticeably to me in the late 90’s and drastically ever since. I try to stay simple and platform friendly nowadays
Sir i am curious to know what did change your experience because i can relate on how micro transactions and pvp changed our experience but what happened to you?
36, first console was a SNES. Honestly the change seemed to happen about mid-way through 7th gen. There's plenty of games i enjoyed in that era, Arkham for example, but it seemed as though multiplayer and competitive based games were gaining dominance. It's probably just a result of more people becoming interested in the hobby also.
Shooting games became bland and uncreative that just not worthy to pay at full price. Single player games, some of them, are worth it but most RPGs don’t respect your time.
My motives for gaming have definitely changed, well actually all hobbies I have that involve consuming some sort of media now that I think about it because whether it's games, books, shows, or movies my goal is completing them and not exactly enjoying them. Like I want to be the guy that's played all of the games and read all of the books and seen all of the shows. I've noticed while playing games thinking how I cant wait til I finish the game and get that sense of accomplishment of adding another experience under my belt. On another note I remember being really excited seeing a Halo 3 MLG label on a bottle of Dr Pepper because I really wanted competitive gaming to be a big deal and now that it is a big deal I find myself wishing it didn't happen. A lot of us aren't having fun in multiplayer games like that because we want to live the dream and be the best and make money playing games lmfao. So instead of enjoying ourselves we just get real upset when we lose and it doesn't even matter if you win 5 games and lose 2, as humans we focus negativity and those losses and the wins just feel like a very brief relief. This way we aren't having fun when we win or lose. Or maybe that's just me.
I'm approaching 40. My first console was an NES I bought used but the first new console I owned was the SNES. I also had a PC with DOS and played games on there too before eventually moving to Windows. Here's my thoughts:
1) Games are a lot more competitive than they used to be--even in games that are not (supposed to be) inherently competitive. Back in the day, you either competed with your immediate circle of friends, the computer, or yourself. Now, there's online competitive play, tournaments, speed running, one-upping each other on social media and streaming platforms, etc.
2) Gaming, in some regards, is not as social as it used to be. You would go to a friends house and play games with them. Or, later, you would get a lot friends together for LAN parties. Now? Just connect online and play with a bunch of strangers 99% of the time.
3) A missing sense of discovery, which also used to have a social element. Talking with your friends, classmates, acquaintances, family members, etc. about what you were figuring out in a game. Or, discussing urban legends. I have two distinct memories of something like this: 1) When a neighbor used the "Konami code" when we played TMNT III on the NES, I was completely blown away as I had never heard of it; and 2) When I went to my friends house one day, who had been playing through Final Fantasy VII on the Playstation, and he told me Aeris (that's how we knew her at the time) had been killed off which left me shocked. I was even more shocked when I finally got to that point in the game myself and watched the cutscene. Now? Just go on the internet and find out everything you've ever wanted to know about a game. How many conversations based on games anymore are due to what someone figured out for themselves vs. what they found out through researching RUclips videos and internet forums?
4) Gaming, in some sense, has gotten too technical. One example: If you play a cooperative game online, you can't just get on it and enjoy it the way you want without risking ostracization. No, you must: build your character a certain optimal way, play your character a certain optimal way, complete this task a certain optimal way, finish this dungeon a certain optimal way, etc. And if you don't, you'll get people angry at you, you'll get kicked from the group or guild, because you're wasting everyone's time with discovering things for yourself or performing your own experiments, etc. Or, worse, the game will punish you for not doing things an optimal way, forcing you down the same path as everyone else. Even single player games can be like this.
5) Many games have too much to do. Very few games anymore are exclusively about getting from point A to point B while obstacles are thrown at you, or exclusively about the Journey (starting off weak, then working your way up to being powerful enough to beat the final boss). Now, there are achievements, side quests, 1% drop rates of that one cosmetic or rare ingredient or powerful weapon you want, getting your characters to max level, crafting items and equipment, introducing more and more mechanics which further complicates or convolutes the game play, mini games, collecting one of everything in the game to unlock something special, etc. And not being able to do everything in the game can be frustrating. Games are now less about discovery and more about checklists to complete, more about technical skill and less about figuring out a puzzle or finding a certain item or getting past an obstacle.
6) Technology. It has pushed gaming in new ways, but it also limits it. Think about how restricted dialogue has gotten due to the insistence on voice acting. Or, that a game has to look graphically beautiful and flashy, but this comes at the price of having a shorter game or a more shallow gaming experience. Or, as mentioned in the video, that games can be updated over time which leads to incomplete games being released.
Two words why people won't play as much , SOCIAL MEDIA, IS TAKING OVER EVERYTHING.
But people plays more games, longer than ever before.
The people who pass all their time on social media wouldn't have been gamers either back then when it was limited.
A gamer would rather lose time in video games instead of tik tard.
@@jacksheldon8566 I know personally people that they gamers and they always looking down their phone on the middle of the game and I have to be telling them dude let's go never paying attention to the game, and always lost of what is going on in the game.
@@josue3434ify they're not gamers then. Just normies.
@@jacksheldon8566 ok..../palmface
All these games are the Same old shit, and People take things wayy too seriously so hence the games get sweaty asf
I will be 37 this year. And I grew up with the older systems like the SNES, Genesis, Dreamcast and PlayStation and n64 and so on.
And to me I think mostly why gaming doesn’t feel the game is because greed has infested the gaming industry. When I was a kid the game released and that was done and you got what you paid for. Now games release unfinished because of unrealistic deadlines so investors can make their money off of preorders.
I myself have noticed that I don’t game as much as I am older now, i still play them but not as much as when I was a kid.
Gaming changed when investor's around the world were beholden to the blockbuster releases of games like halo and gta. Every money hungry person thought, "hey, that makes lots of money, let me buy that and ruin it."
it's not just ''people are old'' it's the game developers making bad games
It’s Sweet Baby Inc 😂 now we got gamer gate 2.0 3 weeks strong
Gaming changed when cheat codes died
Replaced with microtransactions
PREACH!!!
RIP game genie
@@waveTV_ naw RIP gameshark😩
Yup
I was born in 1991 and all I need to do is look at my time during Covid to see what made me lose interest in games. I think the main factor that made gaming so fun and amazing was coming home and getting on with all your friends and unwinding from school. When we all grew up and moved onto adulthood we were on less and less at the same time and gaming as a whole just wasn’t much fun for a few years.
Fast forward to quarantine and all of the sudden all of my buddies and I have free time again. We were on Warzone every night having an absolute blast as a bunch of 30 year olds I felt just like I was 16 again. Staying up too late, talking shit, shoveling down a snack to jump back on. It was just like when I was a kid. For me gaming was an adventure to go on with your friends. We could work as a team, strategize, be competitive. It was awesome to get to relive that little chapter of my life during our 6 weeks in lockdown.
I think the other factor that has lowered interest in games is that whenever we played these originals, it was uncharted territory. Every new game had something never before done to offer. You were getting to experience the”rewarding” parts of war without all the negatives, you were getting to be a god, a professional dirt biker, a gladiator, any of those things. When we were kids it had never been done before. Now every new shooter/adventure game is just like all the others with a little spruced up story and slightly different themes.
All the original titles are still games I feel nostalgia for. Shy of the recent God of War and Red Dead 2 titles, nothing has had that “Wow this is something new” feeling for me in a very long time in gaming.
I loved the first 5 god of wars then it went woke (thanks Sweet Baby Inc) and it added hyper armor
Nice, I didn't expect to hear an actually relatable answer to the question in subject.
Like it.
I feel like the biggest reason is that people only play the same genres over and over again
Like most of those videos ive seen is from people who almost exclusively play fps games and minecraft and pretty much nothing else
Like its basically playing the same game again and again with a different color scheme
I would probably get bored playing SMT games over and over. (Not)
People be playing cod for 10 years and wonder why they bored
A smart comment by a based jack frost pfp
@@Fancyether people need to get more out of their confort zones
I used to hate turn based strategy untill i gave advance wars a try a few years ago and now i love the genre
Most of those people have probably never even played a CRPG
Hell most of them have not even played an immersive sim like dishonored or system shock
That's not really true, Minecraft couldn't be more different than CoD, Counter Strike, Fortnite or Skyrim. CoD and CS are also totally different from each other even though they are superficially the same looking. FPS is just a control scheme but there are many different games with that control scheme. I grew up with 2D platformers and nobody would claim Castlevania, Mega Man and Mario are the same...
They have changed the games from fun and exploitation to gambling. Every AAA feels like I just walked into a fucking casino……
Looking back at my gaming days we had a living room full of friends. Yelling and screaming and laughing. Playing multiplayer games taking turns, that’s what made gaming fun for me. Yea i know online gaming is convenient but to me will never match the experience of having all your buddies in one place fighting for their lives and u making fun of them when u took em all down.
Shifting between hobbies and scheduling time for each one is kinda what I have been doing that helps me. Also been going back to my ps2 that I just found in my storage. surprised the thing turns on but those games have been fun. The achievement/trophy systems not being there to worry about and just playing the game itself without distraction has been the most relaxing
Games rarely come from the heart... They go for the money
We're seeing projects made without love
I've played nothing but indie games for the last 2 years since they're the only ones made with any kind of love. It's helped a bit.
Agreed
Forget triple AAAs. Indie games only.
It’s true look at FC 24
@@laselecta9012 what's that
Great video! For me, gaming has changed when they are more focused on online, monetization and competitiveness, live service games in general. I'm 25, and yes, in my end, the surroundings have changed as well as my situation as I have a job now plus the responsibilities that came with it, so now I lean towards the casual story driven games, as I enjoy them more than playing online.
Nowadays, when there are new games that will be released, I tend to look at the review first and wait for all the DLCs to be released and wait for a sale to be able to purchase it.
32, every console sense 1991. Still enjoy gaming as much as i always have. Gaming is ever evolving, going went from 2d to 3d, the introduction of voice acting, and genres come and go as they gain and lose popularity. Grinding has become wayyyyy more prominent, single player games are not the focus anymore. Anddd, i could think of more, but im done. I still play in my free time and love every second of it. I look forward to the future of gaming, ill game as long im alive.
Grinding has only become worse in multiplayer games, single player games on the other hand are as grind free than they have ever been...
@@V-Jesgo play yakuza like a dragon
So glad to have grown up in this era of gaming. I'm 34 I remember keystone moments that your referring to.
32 as well and I have been gaming for as long as I remember. First console was NES, then SNES, N64, etc. I agree with all your points. To this day I still enjoy when companies make single player games that are actually good. That's why I praise games like Spiderman 2 for being a single player experience even though it sucks that we live in a world where physical copies are non-existent nowadays because there isn't any data on the disc anymore. I love that we have things like Steam Deck because I can emulate all the games I loved playing on PS2, GameCube, you name it.
I grew up in the 90’s playing the N64 and Gamecube. I think gaming changed a lot for me when more people were playing games online and/ or paid a subscription fees to play games. When I was I kid, I would play video games in my home with friends and have physical copies of games that we would play, share and trade.
The main reason for why I still enjoy gaming is the curiosity that comes with trying out something new to see how someone else's imagination manifested into something that we can all interact with and experience in our own unique ways.
What changed over the year imo boils down to oversaturation, same with other forms of media, like movies and shows, we have so many games to choose from, it gets hard sometimes to prioritise certain games over others, considering that after you turn 30, time management becomes a game into itself.
I could sacrifice 3 days of my life to play Skyrim on launch without batting an eye back when I was in college...nowadays, not so much.
One of the main issues is indeed that there are too many games while the majority of them being average at best.
@@Razer5542too many games that are repititve, too many zombie or fantasy games, too many games with no varieties. For instance, aside Sifu, name me another hand to hand combat beat'em up game in the last say 5 years.
the problem is social media and how fast things you can find on the internet. Games were supposed to be a journey where you discovered new things during gameplay. however, nowadays there are guides how to speedrun or get the best results which ruins purpose of it. its like watching a movie while you already had watched the crucial scenes on youtube before
I feel the same with VR gaming as I felt with regular gaming when I was a kid. It totally blows my mind
Boneworks made me fall in love with games again but also made me hate the trash games being pumped out even more
Try Half-Life 2 (and the 2 eps) in vr
For real, and we will continue to have our minds blown. My first "console" was the original Gameboy lol.
I can't wait until they come up with more original experiences other than fps or zombie games. Jesus. We get it.
@@matejunkie it is all about the unreal injector mod by praydog that lets you play most unreal engine games in VR - check it out!
Lol, nope, not even close.
I was born in 1982 and I have experienced even some of the really oldschool titles like space invaders, defender, pacman, also some NES titles (Super Mario Bros. 1 - 3, Kung Fu) and of course most of the popular SNES Games - also home computer (C64, Amiga) games
Commodore 64. Good times, playing Chaos Engine and Sensible Soccer!!
The 4th & the 6th Consol Generations were the best & have the best games. I grew up mostly in the 7th gen but its plane to see for people who pay attention = Stuff made for a "Modern Audience" aka. Esg, Dei, Lack of Tallent & many other factors is why most Games, Movies, TV shows post 2015 (in some cases sooner or later) Lack in being really good, enjoyable, innovative & usually just end up being Slop for NPCs & more often then not push a globohomo narrative.
Games have made lots of people especially in fighting games online rage quitters. No honor and no integrity. You know those rage quitters rage quit in real life too. It's sad.
Too much anxiety and depression to actually "focus" on a game. Feel like the world is caving in as an adult and I'm running out of time. So I can't enjoy video games anymore for that reason and also they don't bring tranquility. Sometimes failing a mission and repeating can be exhausting. Learning the game, the control's etc all over again. Can't be asked to get into a game.
Same I dont have time for that shit and rather spend time working on my side business to get the hell out of the rat race as soon as possible
@@Monkofthecaribbeanme but without the business lol. I’m too focused on bills and real life stuff to enjoy games lately. It sucks, but it comes and goes
Why would time be running out? I started again for the third time age 41. 3 years later I have my latest project running. It was hard work but you reap what you sew.
I now have time for gaming but I also decided not to pursue another relationship. If anything will sap the life out of you it’s one of those.
@@Monkofthecaribbean That's exactly my motto 💯. You said it! Plus - older games were better, PS1 and PS2. PS3 Was my last generation, Tekken 6 and GTA5. Game's got weirder. Pro evolution soccer got worse in gameplay when KONAMI left and sold it to EGaming. FIFA are absolutely lazy, rushing games etc. It's over. I went back and played PS1 emulator online on PC with my PS3 controller, most comfortable pad before they ruined it. That was fun for like a day. Played Tekken 3, Crash bandicoot 3 (Also on PC Steam they remastered the Crash bandicoot trilogy, and remastered the graphics for all 3, that was amazing), bugs bunny lost in time, tomb raider 2, resident evil 1 (also remastered the steam), i think the only revival possible is if you want to go back with your adult IQ advantage and try to complete old games that you couldn't as a child.
@@JDZYNS sounds like you've got the nostalgia goggles on, maybe you just aren't into games as much anymore? I just don't get videos like this "gaming isnt the same anymore" no maybe you're just an adult of course it's not gonna be the same 🙄
I Still love games!!!
I’m went back to ps2 era , loving it . Playing more old school games and having 100x more fun than new games . Idk if it’s bc I was born in 1990s but I feel my childhood is here to stay