If you disagree with something in this video, please, by all means discuss it below! All I ask is that you watch the whole video before claiming I’m wrong about something or that I think a certain way when in reality, it’s just being taken out of context. To clarify some things, I’m a gamer like most of you and this video is meant to relate to how I know a lot of gamers in the US feel. It’s okay if you disagree with me on things, but please listen to my conclusion before you jump to any. The video is not perfect but it was meant to be consumed in its entirety. With that said, I’m very grateful for all the discussion around this video so far and I appreciate you all taking the time to watch! So thank you for that!
Why do you keep showing kiddy Nintendo games in videos like this???? Not bashing Nintendo, i love Nintendo but most older people tend to view games as a "kids Toy" and basically 80 percent of the games you are showing are all kids games basically making the genre seem like a kids thing when in reality majority of gamers are adults and play m rated games not counting casual ones. Also games nowdays are very mainstream, im in my early 30s, most kids in my school were gamers. Every younge person at my job are gamers, my boss is also a gamer. Most young men born from late 80s to 2000 are gamers. You make gaming sound niche. Its the same with music, people who dont grow up with particular genre will not like or consider that particular genre as art. The mcu was huge for the past decade to the point multiple mcu films made billions but people who arent into superheroes dont consider tose early mcu movies as true cinema.
@@TheTrial-np9qy what type of normies are you talking about??? Most normies i know are gamers. Every guy I know who was the cool kid in school were all gamers. This whole gamers are nerds things is very outdated. I dont think I ever met a male between the ages 40 and 20 that weren't gamers.
@@6DADADA but you can talk about the game, the fight, the match’s, who won, who you thought would win, who actually won etc it does make no sense I will say.
imo its because those things you listed as are hobbies or things to pass by time , with the exception of sports - because obsessed sport fans do exist and they're also looked down upon by society , heck sometimes even their team's fanbase.
I went to Target to buy Tears of the Kingdom on release. Strolled up to the check out in the front of the store, game in hand, and had a lovely conversation with a mother (mid thirties, child in tow) who was genuinely excited for the game, eager to purchase it for she and her husband. Then, as I was getting the game rung up, the female clerk (early 20s) was absolutely thrilled with my selection, said she had snagged her a copy earlier that day. I tell this story only to say, neither of these conversations would have likely happened a few decades ago. People in general are far more interested, involved, and eager to discuss gaming nowadays. I’m very happy with the way things are heading.
@@devilsoffspring5519music has existed as a cornerstone of art and entertainment for thousands of years. So comparing gaming to that is just a dumb take lmao
@@BlueBeats169 You're right, but gaming requires more expensive equipment than playing a crusty old guitar :) So, the economic impact of gaming is pretty heavy.
so true! a co worker of mine is completely obsessed with that shit. he does nothing else. he even plays it at work when taking a break. A friend and i at work talked about a game we played on the weekend and he just said "got nothing better to do in your spare time?" we laught so hard at him the guy is still pissed at us and it has been month! he does not consider playing candy crush every free minute "gaming" and yeah it is not. the guy would be completely overwhelmed with an actual game. he does not have the mental capacity for something more complex than candy crush. it is pretty pathetic.
@@sion7651 As a huge fan of Popcap games, I don't reallt think this should be considered pathetic. If you guys want gaming to be mainstream then you better accept that some people will and can only play casual experience, just like how some people can only watch one genre of movies/shows and nothing else. Still pathetic that he tried making fun of your gaming times though.
@@thefreeden "Still pathetic that he tried making fun of your gaming times though." spot on! saying that game X is a waste of time and game Y is not is just stupid. never thought about if i want games to go mainstream. they already did. and if they had not i guess i would prefer them not to go mainstream but that was just a matter of time considering the system we live in.
You can transmit any of these “gaming is a waste of time” and replace “gaming” with “tv” or “movies” or “songs” yeah, entertainment is a waste of time, i’m sorry humans want to not go insane from boredom
Yeah. Good for you. I had my cousin tell me video games are stupid and useless, not sure where he got that from because he enjoys games too. I told him i enjoy the gameplay, story, cinematics and music. He actually went back to playing video games. Social media is trying to brainwash people.
Yeah, to be honest I'd prefer either or. If you dislike it, then ignore it, stop putting those who like it down like their lesser of a human then you because your too impatient to use your thumbs to control what's essentially an interactive movie. Leave us alone and we won't mock you back.
Its not just video games either. At least here in the US, I'd argue a media form that is looked down upon by the media even more than video games is animation. At best its viewed with apathy, at worse its considered nothing more than bright colors to entertain children. The people who create it aren't often recognized as artists and the people who watch it are seen as losers and man-children. Animation, as it exists today, has existed for over a century, and yet it still hasn't broken the stigma. A stigma that has a lot of overlap with video games.
I pay absolutely 0 attention to critics and main stream news talking about media, so I had no idea it was this bad. I thought Pixar and Studio Ghibli were proof enough.
@@viktorthevictor6240 tbh even Pixar doesn't really get respect. Not if you like it as an adult beyond the confines of watching it with your child(ren). There's a not insubstantial contingent of media that always sees it as strictly content for children.
@@viktorthevictor6240For people inside the motion picture industry, even Pixar at its best was only considered as entertainment for children. There was once a series of articles were some Academy members were interviewed about their voting, and essentially they never watched the "Best Animated Feature" nominees and instead voted for whatever their kids seemed to be enjoying. Even more, the fact that that award exists is because people got annoyed at a couple of animated movies getting a spot in the Best Picture nominees.
To be fair, most people that are exclusively fans of animations tend to be major manchildren. (Ffs these guys analyse SpongeBob episodes as if they're The Great Gatsby)
My first language isn't English. I studied in English medium school and the teacher would speak terrible English. Today I speak decent English due to video games especially assassin's creed series. I can get a remote job due to my language skills. It is a stress buster too.
@XS-03_Apollo True, it isn't hard WHEN it surrounds us everywhere. The majority of people who have english as their 2nd/3rd language don't live in english speaking countries.
yea that is also a useful thing you can learn with gaming the only downside is that you can't learn most other languages like this because if a lack of translations so movies are good for this too like my parents know English but their English is not great and my dad travels a lot so that helps him. my grandparents on my dads side know very broken English but on my moms side they don't know any English but the trick is that they do know French so when it comes to movies they got everything they want dubbed .while in the local language in my country they don't dub movies but with video games even french is only supported by about 33% of the games i like .
Having a hobby that makes you productive in life rather than playing games is such an annoying critique that people have about gamers. If your hobby is watching The Masked Singer, what is that doing for your productivity? Nothing. It's okay to have something you enjoy not be something that is a part of your life's grind. I'm a musician and teacher and a gamer, does the gamer portion of me mean that I have to pick something else to do instead that's "productive" or am I allowed to peacefully enjoy a medium thats as "useless" as watching reality tv? Wacky world. Luckily, I'm not personally affected but i will always come to the defense of gamers
But it's not a hobby. Sports is a hobby if you play the sport, it's an expense, a net negative IN EXCHANGE of some higher value like health. "Amateur" means "love" but then again you don't speak that language, your language is to insult things with the word. You degrade the language itself if you start saying that consuming a lollipop right out the store is "a hobby", or going to McDonald's is cooking. and that's the kind of service video games has made commonplace, this nonsense argument. Everything melts into a synonym like "hobby" doesn't really have to mean anything, it's just time you choose to waste.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Bro, that's probably the absolute worst comparison I've ever had the displeasure of reading. The dictionary LITERALLY says that a hobby is, and I quote, "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure". Now tell me, does playing video games not fit that definition? Before you start talking about that "degrading the language" bullshit, read a fucking dictionary. Hobbies don't have to be sports or camping or things like that. They certainly CAN be, but they are in no way REQUIRED to be.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Degrading the language? There are 3 different spellings and meanings to the same sounding word. To, too, and two. The English language is already a mess destroyed by centuries of false information, adaption of words from other cultures, etc. etc. etc. If you think this is "degrading the language", you have no idea what your talking about.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 dawg, we seriously need to start pulling out definitions for shit like this? Video games are fun, that's all there is to it. No clue why so many people see it as a bad thing, half of the things we do in our lives are wastes of time. And the people that are always productive, are never happy. That, and they don't really exist. All of us have a hobby, or "time waster", whatever you wanna call it. You aren't wasting time by having fun, people just apply that title to things they don't like, which means it must be bad. Such a silly little world we live in.
I find it ironic that the same people who say video games are a waste of time probably waste their time watching trash tv and reality shows or spend hours scrolling TikTok.
I find it so ironic that Ryan Reynolds who played on multiple occasions characters inside a video game would say that it's obsolete. I can't even find the original article so I'm not even sure it's real
@@albatross1779 Ok but now at the same time, you're making the same kinds of arguments used for the decrial of games. While it can be argued that games are less detrimental for you, we have to admit that game developpers, are trying to get you to spend as much time on their game as they can in the same way tiktok tries to keep you on the platform. I'm not saying that it's a waste of time, but it honestly does spend a ton of your time ESPECIALLY with so much low-effort mainstream online mobile games that have dailies entering the market.
Video games are incredibly diverse. You wouldn't know that unless you play them. There are "mindless" games, but there are also games that make you contemplate life or that show you the reality another person lives in and much more. Games provoke feelings depending on the message developers wanted to share, similar to watching a good movie or reading a book. You walk away having learned something. Only gamers know the feeling of finishing a game, staring at the credits, completely affected by what they just experienced.
Even then there are "skilled" games. Where the joy in playing them are improving your skill. Party games that are fun for you and your friends. And the overlap between those two of skilled games with your friends. Where the enjoyment is the rush of being competitive with friends that push you to do better. I think those environments can be great to reinforce long distance friendships and teamwork
Two of my favorite videogames are Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2. Both of these games have incredibly complex worlds and their individual stories raise deep philosophical points. Games such as these have more interesting stories than most modern TV shows or movies.
@@paradox2210 My favourite type of games are RPG's and JRPG's in general and Xenoblade is at the peak of RPGS. Definitiely my favourite series of all time.
critical person: "what a loser...you like dungeons and dragons?" also critical person: "WE made it to the super bowl! I knew if I wore my lucky jersey while watching the game and drowning myself in alcohol that WE would win!"
@@mineralwater6736 Sorry but soccor is boring as fuck.. something like american football is cool but champions league? fuck off with that. (No im not from america)
My mom used to blame so many of my problems on video games and I eventually just flat out told her "You can't blame my hobby of video games on my poor mental health when I'm pushed to my limit everywhere else."
Bullshit. Absolute Bullshit. Ive been harassed about my potential for years. Everyone tells me to reach higher even though im already in a good position. My only escape was entertainment, and it was blamed for my "short comings". By current standards im a good citizen and a good student. But morons like you seem to think that younger people cant have emotions or limits, you just assume that everyones escape from pressure is an excuse and their pain is pathetic. Shit like that pisses me off. Your entire argument is built off the assumption that everyone who critiques a younger person is right, or isnt biased, or isnt stupid. Almost everyone ive ever met, including my family has dealt with this dumb argument. Hell, half the people who may criticize you havent even picked up a textbook. Or fall into hypocrisy, or any mix of the two. Im an A-B college student, but im told be perfect by people who never even made it into college. Your argument MAY be correct for some cases. Of course some people take escapism too far. But as an objective argument? Its bullshit.@@zogwort1522
@@nintendofan5978 The reason why I didn't deny it was because fighting back in online conversations is a waste of my time. As an adult, I have other things to prioritize 😂
During some of the Anthropology classes that I took when I was doing my Bachelors, I ended up having a conversation with some students who were in the psychology program, but were taking anthropology classes for their electives (as is quite common in university for the overlap between the two fields). We ended up talking about how, in their psychology classes, they were learning about issues of addiction, violence and mental issues that people develop from playing video games. When I started asking them about different genres and games as a form of interactive storytelling, medium for philosophical commentary and discussion and art, the other students were very surprised to find out that there were video games that weren't shooters. They had never considered the possibility before, because that was their only exposure to the hobby. As an anthropologist, I hope that the conversation opened their minds to possibilities beyond their limited cultural bias. As a gamer, I hope had at least a small impact on the way that they view and treat gamers and video games and opened their minds to the medium as potential for something more.
Yeah this is a big part of the thing that is pointed out. For the most part people of all ages are open to the idea of gaming. I mean gaming in general so also table top and other forms. But when you mention video games specifically, all they can think of are ads and news stories about violent high octane games for young boys with too much energy. That is in reality only a small part of the actual gaming community. So the biggest win we can get with non-gamers, is to show them how many genres there are and to find a genre that aligns with their innate skills and interests. For example my girlfriend is not a gamer at all but when Hogwards Legacy came out she got all kinds of exited and she played it so much that her skill level with a game pad went from nonexistent and being afraid for fight levels, to independently doing big quests with loads of action without breaking a sweat!
When I was a kid, my parents never hated me playing video games but wanted me to have a balance of gaming and outdoor recreation, which was perfect. Neither played games in their lifetime but didn't think it was something I shouldn't do because other people say they're bad.
That a good concern to have with game they can sometimes pull you in for a whole day missing out on other stuff that can be important even stuff that are good for your health like spending 20min in nature or at a park is good for your health before going back to your fake nature in your Zelda or stardew valley game
my dad was a casual gamer i think the biggest gaming haters were some of my teachers and my friends parents who were into homeopathy and thought he would get epilepsy from playing games for a few seconds my parents only said i should play outside and complained about having to buy batteries for the game boy
I grew up playing videogames my whole entire life with Nintendo,People still mocking players who play games seriously games have had huge impact on me and working my way into Game Design as well.
Because gamers are the only people who put pride on there useless activity. You dont hear people who constantly watch movie call themselves movier or people who watch tv tvier lol, only gamers and its embarassing
I played a bit call of duty when I was little but I also played Nintendo games. Even more for that matter. Take the Mario games for example. They have this type of fun to them that completely screws over any other game from Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo is basically the sole reason I like playing games! Their games are so unbelievably fun that they make it seem like making a game is just as simple as playing one! I guarantee that if I never played a Nintendo game, I wouldn't be gaming as much as I do. Ey I also want to do game design cause of then but it's so complicated right now. I really hope I pull through 😢
@@Beresunablle they call themselves "cinephiles", the term for gaming is different because it's a more active activity, the amount of time and effort you can put in a game is way bigger than the one you can put into a movie (I'm talking about the audience, not the creator of the game/movie).
I never realized how difficult it was to get into gaming until my father recently got an Xbox. He already played games mostly on his phone and pc, so it’s not like he was new to video games. The main issue was actually the controller. He had never used a standard-esque controller before, and was having a lot of difficulty adjusting to it. It seems a bit weird to not be able to use a controller to us console gamers, but if you think about it, properly using a controller is way harder than many of us give it credit for. It requires very efficient hand-eye coordination, both of your hands have to move independently, you usually need quick reflexes, you have to instinctively know which button does what, and you have to do all that while paying attention to the screen. Compare that to watching a movie, listening to music or even reading a book, which are much less intense activities to get into
I would say you can get used to a controller with 5-10 hours of practice, qithout skipling too much time between practice sessions. Source: I learnt how to use a controller 4 years ago
Very much so. My grandmother has bad dementia and refuses to do a lot of activities to help her, a lot of which are being social. I've tried introducing her to some games, but even simple ones like minesweeper is impossible for her because she doesn't know how to right click on a mouse.
@@Quartz512_ for people that never played a videogame before that is more like months instead of hours lol. like, really. some people really don't know how to use a controller.
Some games are actually extremely artistic apart from being great entertainment also.I think unfortunately society only values things that make a lot of money no matter what it is
As someone who really enjoys gaming as a hobby there's no reason to hate on it, because wether people like it or not video games are still going to exist.
Gaming, Movies, TV shows and Music all belong in one category tbh. The Entertainment industry. I'm not a Gamer but definitely don't see it as a waste of time, I just don't like games
@@iPhone-su8liThe evolution of games has brought about a significant shift in the way people engage with technology and entertainment. With advancements in graphics, gameplay, and virtual reality, games have become increasingly immersive and captivating. However, this progress has also given rise to potential dangers that may go unnoticed. One of the most concerning aspects of the evolution of games is the growing addiction among players. As games become more advanced and offer more engaging experiences, individuals find themselves spending countless hours engrossed in virtual worlds. This addiction can have detrimental effects on personal growth and improvement in real life. Instead of investing time in developing real-world skills, pursuing hobbies, or building relationships, individuals may find themselves trapped in a cycle of gaming, neglecting their responsibilities and goals. Moreover, the immersive nature of modern games creates a virtual world that feels like a second life. Players can create avatars, explore vast landscapes, and interact with other players in ways that mimic real-life experiences. This virtual reality can be so enticing that individuals may begin to prioritize their virtual lives over their real ones. They may find solace and fulfillment in the achievements and relationships they build within the game, leading to a detachment from the real world. As individuals indulge more and more in these immersive games, they risk losing touch with reality and the world around them. They may become disconnected from their surroundings, neglecting their physical and mental well-being. Real-life responsibilities, such as work, education, and social interactions, may take a backseat to the allure of the virtual world. This disconnection can lead to a sense of isolation, hindered social skills, and a distorted perception of reality. Furthermore, the evolution of games has also raised concerns about the impact on younger generations. Children and teenagers, in particular, are more susceptible to the addictive nature of games and may struggle to find a balance between virtual and real-life experiences. Excessive gaming can hinder their development, affecting their academic performance, social skills, and overall well-being. In conclusion, while the evolution of games has brought about incredible advancements and entertainment opportunities, it is crucial to recognize the potential dangers that come with it. The addictive nature of these games, coupled with their immersive qualities, can hinder personal growth, create a detachment from reality, and negatively impact individuals' overall well-being. It is essential to maintain a healthy balance between virtual experiences and real-life engagement to ensure a fulfilling and well-rounded existence.
I’m a casual gamer who just wants to sit back and enjoy a fun game for a few hours in between going to work and doing chores. This is why I avoid a lot of games with a pvp element or online multiplayer games in general. Getting destroyed by other players in pvp or being ridiculed by some sweaty try hard for not having such and such gear is not relaxing for me.
Bro I am absolutely a single player kinda girl. Sometimes it’s fun to go online and absolutely destroy people in Mario kart 8 deluxe, but generally I more prefer a challenging single player experience. Celeste is my jam. Buuuut it’s not for everyone, and I respect people not being interested in it. (Though seriously I highly recommend Celeste if you have a good amount of free time and a decent amount of skill)
Americans hate children. Nintendo marketed NES for the family, it was in the tech aisle to remind people of the VHS player. But this was taken as "eww, children". That's how long the bimbofication of US culture has been festering, it's just a shorthand for "eww immature nerds are like children, not like mature jocks reminding me of daddy". And it is exactly that, even the dividing line to kissless virgins, and the women who brought the incest vibe to pom with "yes, daddy". The Western culture is long since predicated on class hatred being shifted to GENERATIONAL hatred. Normal, adjusted kids would in a vacuum dress EXACTLY like nerds: the classic poindexter outfit is wearing the same clothes as your engineer dad. THIS is what female-led culture hates, the idea that you DO mimic your dad. The jock on the other hand is only as masculine as he is like an orphan, removed from civilization and just acting on base urges. This is how marketing can recycle every other generation as a new trend resurfacing, despite spinning its wheels.
It's just the tip of the iceberg. People don't understand just how influential gaming is to society as a whole. Not just in the USA, but in many other countries where it's popular too, such as Japan or Canada.
70 year old boomer that has been gaming since pong and continues to play video games. I could care less what people think about me they can have their own opinions. I enjoy gaming and after my quiet time I start playing my games or watch a movie. Gaming probably kept me sane during my 22 years as a law enforcement officer. Now since I'm retired I am enjoying what is left of my life. Happy gaming everyone.
@@ZorroVulpes it's not useless at all. We need more people supporting others to just do their thing and not worry about what other people think. Your comment, by contrast, is far less useful.
What angers me off the most about gaming being disrespected is that not only are the "critics" being hypocritical, because I can guarantee most of them either watch Game shows, reality TV, and modern news with all of the political garbage, Gaming is actually MORE productive than all of these that I listed because Gaming is an ART MEDIUM. An art medium that can be deconstructed, studied, and analyzed just like every other form of art from paintings, to literature, to film. It can even be argued that video games are *hypothetically* OBJECTIVELY BETTER as a form of entertainment due not only juggling traditional visual art, script writing, storytelling, film (Through cutscenes), but ALSO adds immersion through Gameplay. The more complex and well executed an art piece is, the better. Gameplay being the extra layer, here. So to anyone who calls gaming a COMPLETE waste of time, Respectfully, Screw you.
@deannal.newton9772yeah, you can watch a video without understanding anything because it genuinely is easier not to pause to understand than to do so. In a book, your forced to move at a pace where you can understand everything
“Maybe there's a benefit to being overlooked” I have to agree with this. I'm not opposed to more people trying out games if they're sincerely interested, but at this point, games are widely available enough that anyone who really cares can easily seek them out. We can welcome those who approach us, but we need to actively recruit anyone beyond that.
I will always find it fascinating how a “contribution to society” is expected from an entertainment medium. I work in IT, my contribution to society is working on servers, my time spent modding SP games or digging through retro games is not for society, it’s for me, just as much as watching GoT or listening to an album isn’t something that contributes to society. No shade in any of these things, I’m mostly a creator-type, but my contributions to society are either passion projects or something I’m getting paid for.
Playing video games has increased my aspect of Alertness. Hand and eye coordination. It also has increased my ability to think logically, even find solutions to difficult puzzles and stacking of items in a specific way. For instance. In my job where I receive hundreds of packages for the hospital I work in. I stack pallets of boxes in a much more stable manner than my coworkers because I’ve played games that require you to build stable foundations in order to keep it from falling. Unlike my coworkers who just look for what fits wherever. Gaming can help a person build abilities they can use in the real world. Unlike just sitting there watching a screen for hours. Even my mom thinks I’m way smarter than her. Because I grew up playing video games
Not to mention playing video games can help improve creativity as well. Drawing video game characters is what got me good at drawing in the first place. I've written stories and made characters inspired by video games. There's just so many potential upsides to gaming that people just overlook because "gaming bad."
Especially making games. Programming, making music, the visual art, even the psychology of how you want the player to feel; all these are applicable to many other things in life.
and also guess what. since im brazillian i have been playing games since 2011 and in all of those years i started to learn english in early middle school (around 4th grade) just cuz i played games
If gaming is a waste of time... Sports are too Any form of entertainment is too Heck, why don't jobs lose meaning too? And life itself? Aren't the enjoyable moments in life the thing we live for?
This is what I’ve been saying this whole time. We’ve gone back around to bullying nerds because it’s gotten mainstream. You hear people all the time saying “you’re gonna die a virgin” or “you’re living a sad life”. I understand the critique of consumerism and atomization but blaming individuals only makes the problem worse because it makes people feel worse and more isolated. It’s just bullying. Edit: said just far too many times lol Edit 2: commenters proving my point
No Russian in MW2, the entirety of Alien Isolation/any other horror game, and anything in Subnautica. Even games that are meant for children, like Pokemon, have some really creepy pokedex entrys or imply some dark stuff.
It's almost identical to movies, the only difference is the interactive side of video games, but I'm not sure if it can be used as an argument when talking about art in video games, even though it enhances the immersion.
@@legacymse7095 yeah u ain't wrong about that when it comes to games being more interactive than movies, considering that they're pretty much that, a medium involving a bunch of inputs to do something than just staring at something.
I hate tiktok and youtube shorts addicts so much. I hate them as much as the crypto coins scammers. They ruined my life. First of all, my family didn't agree with my gaming passion. Second of all I was told by some of my high school classmates to post content on tiktok, they said that it would be cool and that app fucking gave me a really bad addiction. Third of all, why i hate crypto, bitcoin, solana and nfts is because of a idiot ceo and dev who shutdown his diamond style open world game which was the last one of my favourite games, in search for fools gold (he created a trashly nft game). Fourth of all my Phone is trash and Asphalt 9 Legends became incompatible with my phone and my pc (the gt710 bottlenecked gaming king of 2016) was the last source to enjoy my favourite games, but even the emulators and the games themselves became laggy, unstable and incompatible with my pc. Fifth of all, my lenovo ideapad gaming 3i gtx 1650 laptop that my big bro bought me is my last source that can run games. My phone made me an addict and stole everything from me, almost... Ruined me almost completely... Sixth of all I'm an university college student and they gave me fu*king loadouts of work on projects and lots of exams, so i had to sadly consider gaming useless because of them. Seventh of all updates ruins everything in gaming and in apps and technology industry. Millions of old devices are filled up by loadouts of bloatware because of updates and these device become useless once the memory is full and the apps and games become incompatible. You think fancy graphics and nice skins makes a game better. For God's sake, NO... Friendship makes a game better.. Eight of all I learned to fight against all of the and the world itself against everything that ruins me. I would destroy my phone at any second if i had a better one and I would completely quit the addiction of losing time watching content again and again. I watch content already since 2021 and I got bored, had enough. But instead I want to become a real content creator. Nineth of all, I consider Real Life as a video game now. So am I still a gamer somehow? Anyway I still have some games in my laptop that sadly I never play them so much because I'm not really passionate for gaming anymore ( -I DON'T PLAY GAMES ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY STOLEN MY TIME AND MY LIFE...- ). But gaming is Still a True Gem that They will Never Get It.
I know, right! I get bullied all of the time for liking video games, but the same people who bully me for that, but they do stuff like watch tick tock in class or only party, drink and do drugs, all things I don’t do
@@SolidusCurncer no, but not every song is art. What is art is entirely opinion based. It is certainly not art when a toddler bangs his hands on a piano, at least not in my book. But it is art when Magnus Carlson plays chess.
I love seeing all the clips of people saying that video games are “a waste of time” “don’t help you grow or improve” “there is something better for you to do with your life” and all I need to do is look at the friends I’ve made, the lessons I’ve learned, and the feelings I’ve had all from playing video games. Throwing aside the whole “video games help reaction time” argument, a good video game grows you as a person, whether it’s struggling again and again through a difficult challenge, seeing yourself in the main character, watching them overcome their struggles, inspiring you to overcome your own, or simply just giving you a spark of light to hold on to in the dark, video games are far from a waste of time. And I think when people hear or see the word “gamer” they imagine someone who plays games every waking minute, it’s interesting to see that the general mental image of musicians or actors are these super attractive people, but gamers? Oh heavens no they can’t possibly be attractive, that would be admitting that it’s not a bad thing. All that is to say- video games are cool, and I like them a lot
It’s interesting. Simply absorbing a story is fine, but the moment you have any input it starts becoming childish. This isn’t even limited to video games; when was the last time you saw a CYOA book written for someone last high school? Maybe it has to do with audience interaction being associated with shows for preschoolers and younger?
@@pretzelbomb6105that is indeed an interesting psychology, I myself play splatoon because I really love vibrant games as opposed to the grim ones, with a few exceptions like hollow knight for example
Still to this day my father has that same Generation X mentality of "video games being nothing but a random quick time waster not worth investing much time into", so much so that he still says "Hey son, are you playing Nintendo right now?", cause he literally thinks Nintendo is still the only video game console manufacturer in existence, ignoring that Sony and Microsoft are a thing and have their own video game consoles (yes, he'll do this even if you show him a PlayStation or Xbox console to his face). He always viewed Gaming as nothing but a quick time waster and always wanted me to leave my house and do random activities outside that didn't involve Gaming at all, even sometimes scolding me and taking away my video game consoles (or just the AV cables) to make it harder for me to play them at home. After mom and him divorced, he never changed and never accepted me as a gamer, and he even goes as far as thinking that it's better for me to not be a hardcore gamer, to at best be a very casual one that rarely plays video games and is instead a bigger fan of playing sports or be all about cars and doing IRL Racing.
As an athlete who will run a half marathons for fun. The feeling I get from doing a race isn't far from the feeling I get when having fun in a video game.
Dopamine is dopamine. Some get it from running, some get it from a hard fought battle in a videogame. In a world where children are growing up being told to that cops are out to kill them, half the country wants them dead, kidnappers are everywhere, where existing in a public space without a parent has become a crime, it makes sense why do much youth decides to game, and why millennials with children still game. You see these videos of people minding their own business and getting assaulted for it. Someone wants to play an instrument? Sorry, it’s too loud for your neighbors. Okay let’s try a public park. Oops, that’s disturbing the peace (a crime) Oh lets jog around a pretty part of the neighborhood. Oops, got the police called on you because of your skin color, and now have had a tense and potentially deadly interaction with police. The only thing we can do without being a criminal nowadays is put on our headphones, pick up our controller (or hop on our PC), open up discord, and game with the boys (or girls)
It’s funny how one of the main stereotypes or tropes in TV media was the jock versus nerd, and how the jock plays sports while the nerd plays video games. And yet, on a more basic level, sports and video games share some common ground. Both of them can be vessels for amazing stories, retold between people or through visual media. In sports, there’s moments such as the 1972 Miami Dolphins winning every single game in the season, and currently being the only team who’s achieved such a feat. Or stories about how long it took the Cubs or the Boston Red Sox to win a World Series. In video games, there’s a common idea of playing a game to its absolute limit, beyond what anyone intended when making it. Such as, playing Super Mario 64 while not pressing the A button, and spending hours doing simple tasks to break the game. Or, Tetris, a game programmed to be “too hard to continue” at one point in a session, and managing to play it until the game itself couldn’t continue. There’s more to both sports and video games than either side might give credit for, and it’s why movies and TV shows have been made covering these storylines. It’s almost comparable to motorsport. While sure, your average first world society relies on cars and bikes for transportation, not everyone really cares about what that transportation can or has done. Your average person probably doesn’t care which car brand won Le Mans last year, or which NASCAR or F1 team was the best, and yet these sports have massive followings.
@@yuriodavai2288 Oh yeah, Wrestling is just live action acting and showboating. It's impressive, granted. Takes a lot of training and good physical ability to pull that shit off, but it's not a fuckin.... MMA tournament or anything.
Imma be honest, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 (a *Nintendo* game) had a narrative that broke me, but in a good way. It came out and I played it at the perfect point in my life. No way games can’t be less than enlightening when comparing with movies.
I played all Xenoblade games and their corresponding dlc's except for part 3 and its dlc. I have it in my backlog. I've heard it was good. I can't wait to play it, I'm still in the middle of Kirby's Return To Dream Land Deluxe, and afterwards the dlc for Cuphead.
Let’s not forget the biggest barriers for gaming entry - hardware and game costs. Both are not cheap, neither gets cheaper with time, and the modern hardware requirements seem only to grow with each year while simultaneously the optimisation for older setups is completely abandoned (ex. Steam being unavailable for win7 or below). Additionally, while the indie sector gets a lot of praise, the ‘pixelart platformer’ is still seen as something cheap or bad at a first glance if you’re not following gaming news.
For me my entry to gaming was a tablet. Though admittedly i cant imagine thus working for not young children lmao. Theres still ways to get into it though, many services exist to allow even cheap systems or non at all to play games. You can go to a public spot with systems, im sure you can find one in a lot of areas if you look, or if you have a computer already you can use services like geforce NOW to play heavier games than your system could normally handle
@@dinoaurus1 true, though I doubt non-gamer public is familiar with systems like Now. All the same, at least the indie market is growing and growing, plus the current tech market tries to provide at least low end or medium quality hardware, which now usually qualifies medium end gaming, which is great!
@@prototypelq8574 I think a great way for budget gaming to be very mainstream is if big corporations decide to release budget stuff, everyone in the world has a phone and it's thanks to them offering budget models, heck there are even decent chinese phones that just cost 80-90$, in gaming however, a budget model at its least is 200$ and that is if it's smth like the switch lite and not to mention buying games seperately which would add up alot after a while Now this was on the console side, however for pcs, it's much much worse, if you're a parent wanting to get a starter gaming pc for your child, 500$ is the best you can go unless you go used or buy 6-8 year old specs (even then, used) AIO PC's, Portable PC's (such as the steam deck,rog ally and legion go) are a great market to introduce budget models and make the whole gaming scene more public friendly
Hardware isn't an issue anymore. Nearly every device sold these days is a supercomputer compared to what was available 30 years ago. As long as you're not interested in playing AAA titles as soon as they're released, you can have plenty of fun with older titles that run great on moderate hardware.
Surprisingly, this has been going on since the invention of the newspaper. People were saying back then that instead of talking with other people, they'd rather just read their newspapers.
Breaking bad is 61 hours, but there is only one breaking bad and gamers game on average 8 hours a week. Both are a waste of time, but tbh the problem is that game hours are uncapped.
I feel that gaming as a whole shouldn't be compared to music or movies but instead to sports. Both are massive hobbies that a major portion of the world enjoys and for both you'll have people who enjoy different aspects of this massive umbrella term for their hobby. Just because you play baseball doesn't mean you'll enjoy hockey the same way that just because you play shooters won't mean you enjoy rhythm games. So games should be compared to sports since they are the most similar in nature.
Although sports are usually played competitively while most gamers play alone (e.g. single player campaign or cooperatively together with friends). But I get your point. I see games as interactive movies where one has a say in the outcome. If you don't need/want the interactivity then just watch a Let's Play and you basically get a movie.
@@coondog7934 you want some single player sports? check out the olympics and events like tripple/long jump, 100 meter dash, shotput, etc. there are a bunch of sports played by a single person that while presented in a competitive manor by comparing scores/times like a speedrunning leaderboard, they're still single player, requiring no other people to measure your own success, so yeah, the sports comparison is indeed the most fitting.
Gaming can't really be compared to much of anything. Can't be compared to music or movies because it's interactive. Can't be compared to sports because many games are singleplayer.
*watching a movie* "yeah they're just taking a break, enjoying their free time" *listening to music* "yeah they're just vibing a little to music, free time well spend" *playing video games* "what are they contributing to? They aren't helping anyone with this" I don't get why it's so hard to accept gamers just want to have fun why does gaming need a society-advancing goal?
@@seldomstudios6351my guess, virtual reality could be the next thing ostracised because you’re “living a lie/living in an illusion” and yet vr will probably help more people get fit compared to ‘flatscreen’ gaming
almost all the motivational channels on yt or insta accounts ive came across say to cut out gaming, that its a waste of time, but in my opinion if you enjoy gaming and its not effecting you in a negative way (addiction or raging) then its a great way to spend your free time. its not a waste of time if you enjoy it
I don't know, I just think it's kinda stupid how somebody can confidently say "wow, you're wasting your life away by playing video games in your spare time", and then turn around and binge watch Grey's Anatomy for the fifth time.
Its also interesting that so many people in this video think people only play video games and dont have other hobbies that involve going outside or learning
Playing (and programming) videogames are my primary hobbies. But you know what else I love to do? I love camping. I love hiking out in the middle of nowhere setting up a tent, and spending a weekend cooking under a fire and staring into the stars. It’s unfortunate a majority of places are off limits to camp, or cost an absurd amount of money for 2-3 days to stay. You know what doesn’t cost a lot of money? Garrysmod (a videogame) And over the course of a decade I’ve spent several hundred days worth of playtime in that game. I can play it when there are risks of flash floods, or when the snow is billowing down. There is absolutely no better bang for your buck than a game. You don’t need to dedicate a day to it, no need to take vacation (your job may or may not offer), and anyone can do it. Some people are disabled, and “outdoor” hobbies nearly always exclude them. There are video games people can play with basic eye tracking software giving another avenue of entertainment for the paralyzed. Do you listen to music, or how about to the cinema? What is so different about gaming and watching a movie? Yes, some people are complete losers, but these losers are not always videogame addicts. You have people so obsessed with music they absolutely can’t function without it playing somewhere, always found with earbuds or a speaker playing loudly on the subway. What about movie fanatics who will go watch the same movie in theaters for an entire week, or sit down and watch the entire lord of the rings series in one sitting? Atleast video gaming is a SOCIAL activity. More often than not, the games these “losers” play are multiplayer, and are interacting with other individuals. The dude blasting music over his Bluetooth speaker really isn’t. In my case my hobby actively ties into my business of making games, but even if it didn’t ultimately what does it matter what others think? Why does it bother people that someone does something they don’t? This kind of mentality is the cause of so much hate.
The funniest thing is, when I'd say I'm a gamer, they look at me funny when you then start talking with them about also having a full-time job they get confused. like, what? What else did you think was going to be the situation?
I'm 41, been playing games all my life but even i learned the dangers of gaming culture. Here is a list of dangers I ran into while enjoying the challenge, art, music and community of gaming: 1) Making friends inside a game who you though extended beyond the game, only for them to stop caring about you the second life needs your attention. 2) fulfillment addiction, Normally you want to achieve something in life to make a living or retirement but any energy you put into a game can't be passed on and gets lost after the servers go down. 3) Having friends who are "only gamers" limits conversations topics, we talk about games but when i bring up movies/ animations/ songs/ special events or etc, they draw a blank. This often leaves me in the position to only talk to them when gaming news about what they are currently playing. Friendships like that often didn't last after they started playing a game i couldn't have the time for. My selection for what game i give my time and attention has also changed over the years. Arthritis in the hands limits how long i can play heavy action titles and my personal preference these days, enjoy offline games with get great storytelling and worldbuilding. A few online games do it justice but a majority of them aren't focused on telling a story. So that leaves me in the middle feeling like games are a massive waste of time (because they don't contribute to putting food on the table or retirement) and gaming being one of the pinnacle of entertainment culture (Because of its ability to create common interest between those with diverse background and culture ). So its a balancing act of keep myself proactive in achieving my personal goals.
@russianoverkill3715 I get that, what I don't get is when they blow the whistle and the referee is talking in this fucking nerd language in the camera. The only reason it's not considered nerd language is because it has to do with athletics
@@russianoverkill3715 I still don't know what offside or whatever it's called is. There are always weird rules to sports that don't immediately make sense.
@@icebox1954 It's when at the moment of passing (kicking the ball to another player) the receiving player is further along the pitch than the second to last player of the opposing team (including the goalkeeper). I can also explain how to slow push a wave in Leauge of Legends.
Razbutens “gaming for a non-gamer” series where he has the lady he lives with and sometimes his parents play games gives you a new perspective of just how hard it is for people to even move through dialogue.
My friends struggled to do recovery moves in Smash bros. because they'd press B and then pushed the analog stick up. It was hard to get them to time both inputs together.
@@swordfish1390 you talk like only modern movies have that problem. Lots of 80s movies had adult characters talking like 13 years old, I played many classic rpgs that are considered masterpieces by “gamers” and many of them are nothing more than adults trying to make 14 years old think they are deep and smart.
@@jgnogueira Yep, but in this case they mean literally not know how to get to the next text box. The text box has a down arrow on it, so they're trying to press down to advance when you need to press A which you're just expected to know.
I noticed that we're in general still stereotyped as being unambitious shut-ins who are completely consumed by our hobby even if people aren't in general as ignorant as those examples in the beginning. People have a certain image of the adult gamer, and it's hilarious how people are shocked that I'm one. I enjoy teaching the lesson to people that gaming is just another hobby. I look like a femme fatale, have a full-time job, own my own house, have a boyfriend (and I earn more than he does), friends that I hang out with every Friday evening and Saturday evening, am outdoors a lot (I live in a small rural town in northern New Hampshire), and I love video games. It's almost a meme at my workplace that I'm playing my DS or 3DS during lunch (and oftentimes indulge in gaming in mornings and evenings for an hour here and there, especially on Sunday after I finished my weekly cleaning). I love the classic Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Pokemon, etc games but also games like Sim City are fun. I'm the youngest person at my place of work by far (I'm 27, everyone else is between 38 and 55, we work at the front desk of a hotel/lodge) and I do notice a bit of a generation gap with regards to gaming. They're real nice people and I consider them friends but I can tell I have a very different perspective on games than they do. They see gaming as something mostly kids and teens do so they kind of see it as "Victoria's still kind of a young kid, that's why" (and I kinda am in comparison to them).
@@Tepaneca Compared to my corowkers, I'm a "kid". They're the ones who refer to me as a kid, and not literally. Trust me, I know full well that I'm an adult. I mentioned my income because of the stereotype that gamers have no real disposable incomes due to no jobs. In the future, try reading a little slower so that you can take the time to comprehend what the other person says a little better. 😀
It's so insane how many of these super low-subscriber channels in RUclips keep making pretty engaging and well-informed video essays on interesting topics these days. I would've sworn this channel had at least 50,000 subscribers.
I remember the first time as a kid a friend showed me Final Fantasy 7 on a PlayStation, and raved about how good it was. Tbh, I was intimidated by it. There were so many menus and complex character optimizations with Materia and what not. It felt like a really complicated system. Later I fell in love with JRPG's, including FF7, but I do remember that initial intimidation factor. Playing games is second nature to those who grew up playing them. But for people on the outside, the game mechanics, and how to play can all seem very intimidating.
Yes, I’m very lucky! I’ve heard of some people whose wives don’t like that they play games, but just tolerate it. Also, I can’t remember if I’ve ever said this in a video so forgive me if I’m repeating myself, but my wife is actually the reason I started a RUclips channel in the first place
i bullshit you not. My ex hated that i game (even though i divided my time for her, my goals and hobbies) but my current goth girlfriend enjoys watching me play and isnt a nuisance. Its a win
if we add logic to the equation everyone is a loser if everyone is watching streaming services, social media or tv because of the concept that all evolves sitting or standing behind a screen for down time and/or relaxation purposes. Sometimes people really need to shut up and prioritize logic over temporary emotions
I think most people only say what they think that they are expected to say about most kinds of different things and they dont care at all if what they say makes any sense or if its even true or not. Most people simply cant think for themselves they will just automatically think the way they have been programmed to think and most people have been programmed to think that video games should not be taken seriously but things like movies and TV shows and sports and music should be taken seriously.
What’s weird is that gaming can be one of, if not the most artistic form of art there is, other art forms you don’t really have a sense of agency, in gaming you make the choices, which can really add to the story in a way that watching a movie or reading a book could never do. I don’t think books or movies are bad either, I’m just saying games are much better than people give credit for.
Exactly! Its a bunch of talented people with talented skills. Writing because of lore, story wise and character ideas, drawing designs, creating 3d models (depending one what kind of game you are making), music makers, people who go out and take inspiration and pictures of the real world for inspiration, voice actors, i mean theres so much to list off but it's so many talented people. (Like look at Cuphead, that game created something that NOBODY else has ever done)
You made some good points in this video. I remember when growing up my mom would always scold me about my gaming "addiction" even though she would watch TV every night. I never really understood it. I do think part of it is that people are brainwashed by the media. I feel like most people don't really try to examine their own thoughts. They just go along with how they were raised. As an adult I don't really care anymore though. No matter what you do in life, there will always be people who will dislike you. Trying to appeal to others is the biggest waste of time if you ask me. Also, if people want to believe that games can't teach or enlighten someone, that is their own loss. Everyone has their own idea of what being "cool" is, but the people who go around criticizing others for their tastes probably have some serious insecurities.
I think baggage plays into the feeling of being an outsider as well. It may be my bias as a 90s kid, but as a child, gaming was the "loser's" hobby. It isn't anymore, and I think that's great, but unfortunately, the baggage from growing up in the "gamers are losers" era stuck with me. I find myself falling into all sorts of patterns other slandered groups have to deal with. Things like feeling the urge to separate myself from certain types of gamers. All the little coping methods I used back when I needed them. When everyone tells you at a young age that you've got a problem if you're a gamer, it can stay with you, even after they stop. And to make matters worse, that same baggage can cause you to pass it on to your own kids if you're not careful.
I'm a 90s baby myself and I remember this and still go through it in a way. Now with what I've learned I know how to combat it. I will start to ask: - Does watching TV increase hand-eye coordination? - Does watching TV increase problem solving skills on a high school to college level? - Does watching TV help with reaction time?
7:00 Very true. In the Bible Belt and rural US, Some families who got TV sets would get the ones on wheels so that they could be quickly rolled away into a closet or some such place so that guests or neighbors wouldn't see that they had a TV. My mom talks about those days. She didn't have a TV growing up because they were poor but her cousin did. Apparently they would watch TV over there but it was more on a need-to-know basis.
After studying Marketing, I came to comprehend that there will never be a way to sell a single product effectively to every single human being, may it be because of age differences, culture, tradition or simply what some people like, and at the end of the day that's ok. You just gotta focus on that specific group and the people that do like your product and will make the most out of it. I think it's similar in life, it doesn't matter if not everyone in the world will like gaming, you only gotta find that small community that do like to and stick with them because that's the place where you belong. No matter if everyone else sees you as a weirdo, you aren't hurting anyone, just enjoy life... After all, you only have 1
People don't respect us because we don't act dignified and respectable. Just look at henry cavil, dude is respected even though he is one of us, then look at the average gamer, they look nerdist and a push over. Compare that to nerds in sports games, they look better in appearances.
I appreciate you calling out the generational myopia phenomenon in this video. It's interesting how often gaming gets called out by people who spend hours watching TV and movies (personally) and by media heads who need viewers to make money (globally). It's as if they have something to lose - don't shine the light on me or gaming takes away from my bottom line
I think games are more akin to books than to movies or music. Both are active, you are actively reading/playing, you aren't just a spectator, the progress of your enjoyment depends on your commitment to the activity. Everybody watch tv/series/movies and listen to music because is easy, not many read (or play games) because they are "difficult"... in fact, most of the hobbies aren't like watch media or listen to music, most hobbies require you do something and not just be a passive consumer.
You make a very good point when you say that TV and movies don't have much of a stigma, which is strange. they could be considered timewasters just as easily.
I think it's a little bit more complicated. Games require their own literacy. If I show you an opera or ballett piece, unless you are familiar with the genre you probably won't enjoy it as much. They require their own kind of literacy to get behind that is different from most pop culture. But it is still a passive medium you are most likely familiar with, thus can extrapolate why someone might like it. Most games are complex pieces of media history stacked on top of each other. So many system you as a player grew to be familiar with, as most modern gamers are millenials and younger. The aspect of interactivity creates this strong barrier. Only the person playing will understand what a game really feels like. Additionally, due to their average length, people that are familiar with classic media lengths can't really fathom sitting down for 3-4h a day to play one single story.
@@yarion4774 I'm still flabbergasted that someone could even hear "3-4 hours of story per day" and think "this shit hasn't evolved beyond pong." There should be a basic level of understanding that that is a _big fucking story,_ but they don't even deign to acknowledge the _possibility_ that something interesting could be in there. ...Now, five seasons of some schlock on Netflix... They're always down to binge that.
@@yarion4774a youtuber whose name i dont remember right now made a series about what games are like for non gamers and it was pretty eye-opening from the small amount i watched
Since my childhood, i was treated like dirt : "you read/watch comics/manga/cartoons/anime", "you would like to become an Illustrator ?!", "you are friend with him? Why not that one ? He would be better". Now it's "you play video games"! There would always be a problem if we were to listen to "them". And even among gamers we see people venting out by belittling other fellow gamers But it doesn't matter. Or rather, it does not have to matter. I am now in my 30ies, and i still try my best to reject the very first diktat society sold us : be famous, be the best, be rich, yada yada People, gamers or not, stop seeking recognition from others. Build your own world where you are accepted. Choose who you share your life with. You do not need any thing else
Play almost any game with competitive pvp. Games aren't always the problem. It's the lack of maturity behind the screen that don't deserve respect most often.
Thank you for understanding your place in society. We appreciate your lack of entitlement. If gamers wanted respect, they should've gone to a more alpha/chadface hobby like sports or weight-lifting. It's like the guy in highschool who thought he was a hot-shot because he's captain of the chess team. The ladies don't go for chess players, and other guys don't really respect chess players either. Socially, gaming and chess are in the same category. They're great hobbies in their own class, but if someone is trying to use these hobbies to gain the same level of respect as the highschool football star, good luck chuck.
Gotta make people PLAY games to understand games. But the problem is; you can't force someone to play games or it'll lose its charm in the first place. Especially to those who's never hold a controller before.
You CAN however try introduce it to them when they are young, that’s what I am trying to do with my cousins’s children, not to force them into it, but to try spark an interest in it as soon as possible.
The people who don't like or play video games tend to view the medium similar to that as an illicit drug. Something to be consumed to help you escape and avoid your problems. Another thing to point out is one of the reasons the medium is growing in popularity with men is because video games provide one of the few outlets for men to problem solve. The west is a gynocentric society, and the outlets for men are far and few between
I mean there are professional gamers, devs, competitions, and game shows too. Like gaming yt-ers. You kind of missed the point of what people who say touch grass, and it's kind of different between gaming and going out or kicking a ball. They meant that it might be good to get exercise, go out, not strain your back too much, or have some nature, especially if some people are cooped up so much like some gamers or internet users. "Touch grass" is said to people who spend too much time on the internet, watching tv, inside, or are too anger or mental too. I'm not saying people have to go out cause I don't much either. But I understand some of the "touch grass" people meant well.
Another warning sign of people who smear games, they think Anime is just Video Games too, or anything from Japan is just Gaming. This is when you can see that they generalize everything entertainment from Japan as being, oh it's all Video Games.
My mom unironically tells me to 'stop playing videogames' when I'm just scrolling on Twitter. She thinks everything on the computer on or on my phone is a video game somehow
Over Christmas, my friend was in town, and he needed to get a sim card for his cell phone, so I took him to an AT&T store. While we were there, we ended up talking to the 2 people who worked there for a while about video games. They were also gamers as well. It was definitely a good experience.
i think its some people are like "your hobby doesnt contribute to the world" but like, whos hobby does? is that what the point of a hobby is? just having fun? i mean seriously working out or reading or watching movies isnt adding to the world either.
Hobbies and entertainment helps with mental health, teaches things, and has helped people choose their path in life. Similar to discussing history and philosophy. I would rather people doing hobbies than crime and vices.
I work in software/tech, and gaming is normalized to a surprising degree among tech circles, to the point that I consider tech and gaming to be "sister industries".
I read a study a while ago about comparative skill development in first-person shooters and RPGs vs the 'control' of non-gamers. First person shooter players made decisions faster, no surprise, but made MORE ACCURATE decisions faster. RPGs, they couldn't find a particular skill, but noticed that RPG players reported far less rates of nightmares and much higher rates of either dissociated dreams (things happen, not to ME), or control of their dreams (it's not scary, it's intense). Games train us. Shooters train us to make fast and accurate decisions, because that's what they reward. RPGs train us to ... I guess dissociate? Which is a genuinely good skill to have at times. It helps you process what's happening to you, and around you. We need more studies like this. What do different games train us to do, to be? Plus, a lot of games force you to ask questions in a much more personal way than TV or books or movies. It's not the CHARACTER doing the thing that may or may not be ok, it's YOU.
That's a very interesting observation! I've been playing shooters for 30 years. I never thought to consider how gaming may have contributed to my driving skills. I've developed a situational awareness where I know everything that's going on around me inside of a 500 meter radius. I'm able to predict the actions of other drivers before they happen. Nothing catches me by surprise. I've developed the reflexes of a rally car driver, and also trained myself to be able to handle highly adverse road conditions. I remember a time I was in a white out snow storm, driving past mangled guardrails, and seeing dozens of abandonded vehicles in the ditches. Despite my calm driving style, I also had a keen awareness that slipping up even once could potentially be fatal. I suppose I gamified my driving skills. I pushed myself to learn things and master skills that most other drivers don't. Interestingly, I don't really like driving games. I find them too disconnected from the actual experience of driving.
Music is level 1: it's passive and it doesn't take all your attention as you can drive or do chores while listening. Movies/TV/streaming is level 2: it's passive and takes your attention. Gaming is level 3: it's interactive, and takes your attention.
My wife and I have had this conversation. She mentioned video games being childish. And I brought up the fact about phones and also people spending hours watching tv as a waste of time while a video game isn’t passive like tv. And she came back with “I think kids should play sports instead of video games” and I replied with “okay, but adults don’t. Adults sit in front of the tv watching the sports trying to relive glory days or live vicariously.” The conversation stopped when I explained how I was ridiculed in school for being a nerd and playing games.
Games are a art form and bring joy and happiness to dark times and actively help anxiety and depression. And when people ask me my favorite youtubers and roll off like 3 or 4 gaming channels they look at me weird like thats not what youtube is for.
I mean, all I would ask for is that gaming is simply respected. Not to normalized or anything necessarily like other media, but just that people don't see it as a bad thing that someone is a gamer.
@@zogwort1522 gaming isn't really that different from, like fishing or something in the sense of what it's popularity/what it entails. Fishing is something most everyone can do. Not everyone will, but it's generally respected as something that a good person would do. It doesn't require too much physical strength. Gaming is really quite similar. The only big difference is that fishing takes place outside. All I'm hoping is that people respect gaming to the general level of fishing in this example.
I remember famous filmmaker Guillermo del Toro saying that the way the general publics discredit for gaming as an art form is similar to how the older generations saw comic books he even calls video games as the "comic books of our time" and he says that games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are examples of gamings artistic potential so I really respect him a lot in that regard
Lately Ukrainian soldier (bradley operator) said that video games helped him to win a standoff with a T90 tank. I mean if saving your life doesn't count I don't know what does. And there are countless examples how games saved peoples lives, helping them with depression, learning skills that they could actually use in real life etc. I could easily find a lot things that people like doing which could also be considered as a "waste of time".
@@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cche said that he used to play games like Warthunder, World of Tanks etc so he knew the exact weak spots on that exact model and was able to hit them almost perfectly, which in the end saved his and his crews life.
One big gripe i have with the videogames are a waste of time arguement is that the games can be used to make content and people can make a living off of it while you can't just watch your favorite sitcom to make money, (i know its only a few, but you can do it and its much more accessible)
That's a huge reach tho. Being a successful gaming channel requires you to have an actual personality. And I hate to say it, but most gamers are socially awkward people.
Y'know, I think you gave the best message that this topic needs. As I'm an adult transitioning into a larger career, I don't have much time for games as I used to. I still love it so much, but there are bigger responsibilities that I have to face. Still, it's important to love what you love, and instead of forcing others to understand or pretending to be someone you're not, accept the things you love and share it with others in a generous way.
I often find a comparrison between gaming and sports as hobbies. Both gaming and sports have their own separate loops of knowledge and information. There are dedicated channels for sports newsjust as there are dedicated areas for gaming news. The difference might be that sports are easier to join casually because half of the sports hobbiest only have to watch the games while the gamers haven't quite gotten to that level with accessibility in that type of enjoyment, especially with the current state of twitch and the feelings older people have towards the internet and youtube in general.
I just saw a video with this to say: Video games are a hobby, not a lifestyle. Don't need to obess over it like its your whole life. Look, I love building plastic model kits, and I always want to get my friends into the hobby of build & painting plastic models, but I already know that it ain't gonna be mainstream, and most people I mention my hobby to will just skirt around the surface level conversations. That's ok, as long as I can enjoy a hobby, it does not matter what the acceptance level is. Also, I don't ask people what their favourite movies or music are, some people just don't have a particularly strpng preference about these things. I usually open with how their days are going or how's cause that's just more universal.
I have been a gamer my whole life and my family showed me so much love despite the games not being their most enjoyed thing. I want to become a game dev to give back to the world the joy i experienced as kid, but somethimes i get scared that the world will not accept me. This video helped me realize that thats okay, I dont need the mainstream to accept me, I will simply do my best to show people the value in gaming and the value of the gamer. I want to introduce outsiders and remind gamers why we do what we do, because at the end of the day, we fell in love with games for a reason, just like any other hobby that takes dedication. What is important to me is opening people up to new perspectives regardless of where we come from or how inclined you are to take on an experience some else has had. Thank you for inspiring me to keep pushing foward and I hope one day for my games to bring you new joy and new friends.
I grew up with video games myself. There's many life lessons that I personally may not of learned or been able to handle appropriately had I not been a gamer, large part thanks to the variety of games Ive played in my life. A perfect example is how I started off not caring (not to such a great extent at least) about the differences in other people until getting into anime games. And MMORPGs taught me how important it can be to plan and spend your time and resources depending on wants and needs at that moment thanks to games like Warframe, and though not an MMO, Minecraft. I even these days sometimes choose to pick up a game I otherwise wouldn't just because of the great songs used in them. A bit over a year ago, I played a Devil May Cry game, DMC5, for the 1st time thanks to having heard the song Bury the Light. And now, I have an appreciation for the DMC games as a whole. Video games are definitely an art form. I appreciate the memories Ive made in them, and I don't want to forget those ever. I want to share those memories with others, so that maybe they too see what I do if possible.
@@zogwort1522 If you're that annoyed about something barely worth mentioning like that, you don't wanna know the "problems" I've seen. Besides, everyone has made grammatical issues at least once, even you I'm sure.
@@zogwort1522 Are you that bored that you're seriously worried about correcting simple grammar mistakes from random people across the internet? What are you even accomplishing? Isn't there something more important you need to be doing right now? What's your problem?
As an INTJ, learning new skills, mechanics and overcoming challenges are what fulfills my soul. Even though I do play games for fun, it is more of a tool for expression than anything else. Outside of that, the thrill of victory and agony of defeat against strong competition is what draws me to games, not the allure of flashing lights and loud sounds. Many people often have opinions of things they have little experience with, which is why you take it with a grain of salt. Like most hobbies, what you take out of it and put into it is entirely up to the individual. If you let it consume your life, it will.
I am thoroughly impressed by this video. Thought-provoking and entertaining. Kudos! The only nuance I'd like to add to this conversation is that a lot of what you cover in this video applies to more "core" gaming experiences, which is part of what I feel makes "gaming" so insular as a hobby. However, there are types of games which do penetrate the mainstream, they're just so casual or abstracted that it is difficult to sustain any sort of discourse or prolonged conversation about them. Wordle comes to mind, specifically. It was mainstream enough The New York Times bought it, directly.
You're absolutely right. I would say most of those are so similar to tabletop games or board games that the mainstream almost considers them more so electronic versions of those types of games, if that makes sense. A lot of them are kind of in a realm of their own which is why I didn't include a section about them in this video. Though an argument could be made for why I should have.
The mainstream media definitely does not consider games like Wordle an extension of board games lol. Board games are definitely a more niche hobby than video games (as someone who is a massive enjoyer of both). More people have probably played at least one board game in their life, but in general, people know more about video games than they do about board games. Wingspan came out in 2019, and was a big enough deal I knew about it as someone who (at the time) had played a handful of social deduction board games (nothing like Wingspan lol), I had heard that it existed and was good. Excluding party games, that's the only board game I can think of that got that level of mainstream attention, and all I knew was that it existed. "Games" is a super broad category, and there are some that cannot be categorized. Wordle is most analogous to a crossword puzzle or sudoku, and those generally aren't even considered games. How about tag, or hide and seek? Those are games, but I can't really put it into a deeper category than that (the only one that comes to mind is "children's games," but describing the player does not describe the game). Or within video games and board games, there are games that are so mainstream they kinda don't count anymore. Like Candy Crush, or Monopoly. You're not a video gamer because you play Candy Crush, and board gamers couldn't care less about Monopoly, but they are undeniably within those categories. Those types of games are an interesting discussion, but I don't particularly think they're super relevant to the point of this video. This video talks about video gaming as a hobby, which is independent of playing Candy Crush or Wordle. I definitely agree that they're in a realm of their own.
@@DerajjParallax Why would you separate board games so strongly from video games? They're both practicing game design as an art form. They have different constraints, sure, and often have different audiences, but so do movies and TV shows. Games are games, I'd say. I think the real dividing line in games is games as art/entertainment vs games as sport.
another factor that slowed down the adoption of gaming as a mainstream pastime is that social media was introduced right on their renaissance, pretty much overshadowing them. If today we didn;t have social media but we still had powerful portable devices people would spend more time playing stuff on them, but scrolling is more addicting for less attention and effort
Overshadowed? I think social media helped more people get into gaming and other interests. Especially when it's hard for some people to afford games or other hobbies.
Social media arguably helped gaming become mainstream, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the 8th gen consoles all had designated social media buttons on their controllers
If you disagree with something in this video, please, by all means discuss it below! All I ask is that you watch the whole video before claiming I’m wrong about something or that I think a certain way when in reality, it’s just being taken out of context.
To clarify some things, I’m a gamer like most of you and this video is meant to relate to how I know a lot of gamers in the US feel. It’s okay if you disagree with me on things, but please listen to my conclusion before you jump to any. The video is not perfect but it was meant to be consumed in its entirety.
With that said, I’m very grateful for all the discussion around this video so far and I appreciate you all taking the time to watch! So thank you for that!
Why would I want Normie's To be gamers eewww
Why do you keep showing kiddy Nintendo games in videos like this???? Not bashing Nintendo, i love Nintendo but most older people tend to view games as a "kids Toy" and basically 80 percent of the games you are showing are all kids games basically making the genre seem like a kids thing when in reality majority of gamers are adults and play m rated games not counting casual ones. Also games nowdays are very mainstream, im in my early 30s, most kids in my school were gamers. Every younge person at my job are gamers, my boss is also a gamer. Most young men born from late 80s to 2000 are gamers. You make gaming sound niche. Its the same with music, people who dont grow up with particular genre will not like or consider that particular genre as art. The mcu was huge for the past decade to the point multiple mcu films made billions but people who arent into superheroes dont consider tose early mcu movies as true cinema.
@@TheTrial-np9qy what type of normies are you talking about??? Most normies i know are gamers. Every guy I know who was the cool kid in school were all gamers. This whole gamers are nerds things is very outdated. I dont think I ever met a male between the ages 40 and 20 that weren't gamers.
@@vice2versa cause no non-gamers are watching this, so it really doesn't matter, and its probably just what he has footage of.
I was for videos games then console wars was on the screen 🙄
Those morons are idiots
Us gamers however
How come they don't think watching hours of reality tv ,sitcoms or sports or daytime tv isn't a waste of time.
I'm guessing because it's not something they can have water cooler discussion about.
@@6DADADA but you can talk about the game, the fight, the match’s, who won, who you thought would win, who actually won etc it does make no sense I will say.
The answer is simple: they're hypocrites. Especially when considering that it's a lot easier to come up with pros about video games than watching TV.
Because it’s not something they take super seriously like you
imo its because those things you listed as are hobbies or things to pass by time , with the exception of sports - because obsessed sport fans do exist and they're also looked down upon by society , heck sometimes even their team's fanbase.
I went to Target to buy Tears of the Kingdom on release. Strolled up to the check out in the front of the store, game in hand, and had a lovely conversation with a mother (mid thirties, child in tow) who was genuinely excited for the game, eager to purchase it for she and her husband. Then, as I was getting the game rung up, the female clerk (early 20s) was absolutely thrilled with my selection, said she had snagged her a copy earlier that day. I tell this story only to say, neither of these conversations would have likely happened a few decades ago. People in general are far more interested, involved, and eager to discuss gaming nowadays. I’m very happy with the way things are heading.
Yeah, this video isn't remotely relevant.
thank you!
@@flyntwick Did you not see the end of the video?
@@Comicbroe405why watch long time when few seconds do trick
you haven't experienced gaming till you've barely won a race on Assetto Corsa Competizione with a wheel.
I hate that gaming and animation have been insulted for years. The socioeconomic and cultural impact they’ve had is huge!
Not really. Compared to music, the cultural influence of gaming and anime is trivial.
@@devilsoffspring5519not a fair comparison at all… not only is it thousands of years older, but accessible EVERYWHERE
@@moongirl_lunalav So is gaming :)
@@devilsoffspring5519music has existed as a cornerstone of art and entertainment for thousands of years. So comparing gaming to that is just a dumb take lmao
@@BlueBeats169 You're right, but gaming requires more expensive equipment than playing a crusty old guitar :) So, the economic impact of gaming is pretty heavy.
Mfs be saying gaming is a waste of time while being on level 341 on candy crush
so true! a co worker of mine is completely obsessed with that shit. he does nothing else.
he even plays it at work when taking a break.
A friend and i at work talked about a game we played on the weekend and he just said "got nothing better to do in your spare time?" we laught so hard at him the guy is still pissed at us and it has been month!
he does not consider playing candy crush every free minute "gaming" and yeah it is not.
the guy would be completely overwhelmed with an actual game.
he does not have the mental capacity for something more complex than candy crush. it is pretty pathetic.
You made me chuckle reading that... @@sion7651
@@sion7651 mf sounds like the type of guy to be excited for a dlc in candy crush
@@sion7651 As a huge fan of Popcap games, I don't reallt think this should be considered pathetic. If you guys want gaming to be mainstream then you better accept that some people will and can only play casual experience, just like how some people can only watch one genre of movies/shows and nothing else.
Still pathetic that he tried making fun of your gaming times though.
@@thefreeden "Still pathetic that he tried making fun of your gaming times though."
spot on! saying that game X is a waste of time and game Y is not is just stupid.
never thought about if i want games to go mainstream. they already did.
and if they had not i guess i would prefer them not to go mainstream but that was just a matter of time considering the system we live in.
You can transmit any of these “gaming is a waste of time” and replace “gaming” with “tv” or “movies” or “songs”
yeah, entertainment is a waste of time, i’m sorry humans want to not go insane from boredom
Hypocrisy at its finest
@@Mintcar923 wait who’s the hypocrite?
@@Yuti640 Those people that speak out against gaming but not other so called “time consuming” hobbies
Yeah humans are not mindless automatons who can constantly work. We need the mental "downtime".
Ignorance isn't always bliss especially with these old heads that think of games for children
It’s actually ironic most of the people saying that playing video games is a waste of time have their whole careers based around wasting your time.
The people in the News just talk about nothing for their whole career.
Like where are THEIR hobbies
Damn you got em
I hate the word "waste of time" so much man like what does it even mean?
I never wanted these peoples respect or acceptance, I want them to leave me and my hobbies alone.
Nothing wrong with that at all
Yeah. Good for you. I had my cousin tell me video games are stupid and useless, not sure where he got that from because he enjoys games too. I told him i enjoy the gameplay, story, cinematics and music. He actually went back to playing video games. Social media is trying to brainwash people.
1984 yarned yall social medias destroyed society @@comicrandomness3289
@@comicrandomness3289 Pretty sure social media isn't out to brainwash you into thinking videogames are stupid, but okay.
Yeah, to be honest I'd prefer either or. If you dislike it, then ignore it, stop putting those who like it down like their lesser of a human then you because your too impatient to use your thumbs to control what's essentially an interactive movie. Leave us alone and we won't mock you back.
Its not just video games either. At least here in the US, I'd argue a media form that is looked down upon by the media even more than video games is animation. At best its viewed with apathy, at worse its considered nothing more than bright colors to entertain children. The people who create it aren't often recognized as artists and the people who watch it are seen as losers and man-children. Animation, as it exists today, has existed for over a century, and yet it still hasn't broken the stigma. A stigma that has a lot of overlap with video games.
It gets even dumber when those people see things like... Fritz the Cat, Berserk, basically every hentai, Primal, etc
I pay absolutely 0 attention to critics and main stream news talking about media, so I had no idea it was this bad. I thought Pixar and Studio Ghibli were proof enough.
@@viktorthevictor6240 tbh even Pixar doesn't really get respect. Not if you like it as an adult beyond the confines of watching it with your child(ren). There's a not insubstantial contingent of media that always sees it as strictly content for children.
@@viktorthevictor6240For people inside the motion picture industry, even Pixar at its best was only considered as entertainment for children.
There was once a series of articles were some Academy members were interviewed about their voting, and essentially they never watched the "Best Animated Feature" nominees and instead voted for whatever their kids seemed to be enjoying.
Even more, the fact that that award exists is because people got annoyed at a couple of animated movies getting a spot in the Best Picture nominees.
To be fair, most people that are exclusively fans of animations tend to be major manchildren. (Ffs these guys analyse SpongeBob episodes as if they're The Great Gatsby)
My first language isn't English.
I studied in English medium school and the teacher would speak terrible English.
Today I speak decent English due to video games especially assassin's creed series.
I can get a remote job due to my language skills.
It is a stress buster too.
Wow that’s pretty cool! Learning a language is really hard 👍
That is something that is good.
@XS-03_Apollo True, it isn't hard WHEN it surrounds us everywhere. The majority of people who have english as their 2nd/3rd language don't live in english speaking countries.
@@Quartz512_true I live in Asia country and most of the people here barely speaks English but thanks to games and youtubers I learned it under a year
yea that is also a useful thing you can learn with gaming the only downside is that you can't learn most other languages like this because if a lack of translations so movies are good for this too like my parents know English but their English is not great and my dad travels a lot so that helps him. my grandparents on my dads side know very broken English but on my moms side they don't know any English but the trick is that they do know French so when it comes to movies they got everything they want dubbed .while in the local language in my country they don't dub movies but with video games even french is only supported by about 33% of the games i like .
Having a hobby that makes you productive in life rather than playing games is such an annoying critique that people have about gamers. If your hobby is watching The Masked Singer, what is that doing for your productivity? Nothing. It's okay to have something you enjoy not be something that is a part of your life's grind.
I'm a musician and teacher and a gamer, does the gamer portion of me mean that I have to pick something else to do instead that's "productive" or am I allowed to peacefully enjoy a medium thats as "useless" as watching reality tv?
Wacky world. Luckily, I'm not personally affected but i will always come to the defense of gamers
Agreed.
I’m a huge collector and fanatic of video games, but it’s not my identity. I’m a carpenter, musician and enjoy camping and the outdoors.
But it's not a hobby. Sports is a hobby if you play the sport, it's an expense, a net negative IN EXCHANGE of some higher value like health. "Amateur" means "love" but then again you don't speak that language, your language is to insult things with the word.
You degrade the language itself if you start saying that consuming a lollipop right out the store is "a hobby", or going to McDonald's is cooking. and that's the kind of service video games has made commonplace, this nonsense argument. Everything melts into a synonym like "hobby" doesn't really have to mean anything, it's just time you choose to waste.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Bro, that's probably the absolute worst comparison I've ever had the displeasure of reading. The dictionary LITERALLY says that a hobby is, and I quote, "an activity done regularly in one's leisure time for pleasure". Now tell me, does playing video games not fit that definition? Before you start talking about that "degrading the language" bullshit, read a fucking dictionary. Hobbies don't have to be sports or camping or things like that. They certainly CAN be, but they are in no way REQUIRED to be.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Degrading the language? There are 3 different spellings and meanings to the same sounding word. To, too, and two. The English language is already a mess destroyed by centuries of false information, adaption of words from other cultures, etc. etc. etc.
If you think this is "degrading the language", you have no idea what your talking about.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 dawg, we seriously need to start pulling out definitions for shit like this? Video games are fun, that's all there is to it. No clue why so many people see it as a bad thing, half of the things we do in our lives are wastes of time. And the people that are always productive, are never happy. That, and they don't really exist. All of us have a hobby, or "time waster", whatever you wanna call it. You aren't wasting time by having fun, people just apply that title to things they don't like, which means it must be bad. Such a silly little world we live in.
I find it ironic that the same people who say video games are a waste of time probably waste their time watching trash tv and reality shows or spend hours scrolling TikTok.
I find it so ironic that Ryan Reynolds who played on multiple occasions characters inside a video game would say that it's obsolete. I can't even find the original article so I'm not even sure it's real
YUP!
Exactly man, they just don't understand that that is another form of entertainment
Hot take: TikTok is a waste of time. I'd rather play videogames than subject myself to that stuff.
@@albatross1779 Ok but now at the same time, you're making the same kinds of arguments used for the decrial of games. While it can be argued that games are less detrimental for you, we have to admit that game developpers, are trying to get you to spend as much time on their game as they can in the same way tiktok tries to keep you on the platform.
I'm not saying that it's a waste of time, but it honestly does spend a ton of your time ESPECIALLY with so much low-effort mainstream online mobile games that have dailies entering the market.
Video games are incredibly diverse. You wouldn't know that unless you play them. There are "mindless" games, but there are also games that make you contemplate life or that show you the reality another person lives in and much more. Games provoke feelings depending on the message developers wanted to share, similar to watching a good movie or reading a book. You walk away having learned something. Only gamers know the feeling of finishing a game, staring at the credits, completely affected by what they just experienced.
Well said.
The early metal gear solid games can attest
Even then there are "skilled" games. Where the joy in playing them are improving your skill. Party games that are fun for you and your friends. And the overlap between those two of skilled games with your friends. Where the enjoyment is the rush of being competitive with friends that push you to do better. I think those environments can be great to reinforce long distance friendships and teamwork
Two of my favorite videogames are Xenoblade 1 and Xenoblade 2. Both of these games have incredibly complex worlds and their individual stories raise deep philosophical points. Games such as these have more interesting stories than most modern TV shows or movies.
@@paradox2210 My favourite type of games are RPG's and JRPG's in general and Xenoblade is at the peak of RPGS. Definitiely my favourite series of all time.
These are the same people that are obsessed with watching sports…
especially infuriating when it’s something like darts or pool
critical person: "what a loser...you like dungeons and dragons?"
also critical person: "WE made it to the super bowl! I knew if I wore my lucky jersey while watching the game and drowning myself in alcohol that WE would win!"
What? Its REALLY exciting watch 22 Millionairs follow a ball for 90 min!
@@kohlicoide2258 what a braindead take this is.
@@mineralwater6736 Sorry but soccor is boring as fuck.. something like american football is cool but champions league? fuck off with that. (No im not from america)
My mom used to blame so many of my problems on video games and I eventually just flat out told her "You can't blame my hobby of video games on my poor mental health when I'm pushed to my limit everywhere else."
@@zogwort1522 That's a lot of assumptions about me, but that can be a good point to other people 😂
Bullshit. Absolute Bullshit.
Ive been harassed about my potential for years. Everyone tells me to reach higher even though im already in a good position. My only escape was entertainment, and it was blamed for my "short comings". By current standards im a good citizen and a good student.
But morons like you seem to think that younger people cant have emotions or limits, you just assume that everyones escape from pressure is an excuse and their pain is pathetic. Shit like that pisses me off. Your entire argument is built off the assumption that everyone who critiques a younger person is right, or isnt biased, or isnt stupid.
Almost everyone ive ever met, including my family has dealt with this dumb argument. Hell, half the people who may criticize you havent even picked up a textbook. Or fall into hypocrisy, or any mix of the two. Im an A-B college student, but im told be perfect by people who never even made it into college.
Your argument MAY be correct for some cases. Of course some people take escapism too far. But as an objective argument? Its bullshit.@@zogwort1522
You didn't deny it. I also agree with his point even though I am in the same group.@@Zylefer
@@nintendofan5978 The reason why I didn't deny it was because fighting back in online conversations is a waste of my time. As an adult, I have other things to prioritize 😂
@@Zylefer Yet, you took the time to reply. Everything you said by now doesn't put you in a good image.
During some of the Anthropology classes that I took when I was doing my Bachelors, I ended up having a conversation with some students who were in the psychology program, but were taking anthropology classes for their electives (as is quite common in university for the overlap between the two fields). We ended up talking about how, in their psychology classes, they were learning about issues of addiction, violence and mental issues that people develop from playing video games.
When I started asking them about different genres and games as a form of interactive storytelling, medium for philosophical commentary and discussion and art, the other students were very surprised to find out that there were video games that weren't shooters. They had never considered the possibility before, because that was their only exposure to the hobby.
As an anthropologist, I hope that the conversation opened their minds to possibilities beyond their limited cultural bias. As a gamer, I hope had at least a small impact on the way that they view and treat gamers and video games and opened their minds to the medium as potential for something more.
Yeah this is a big part of the thing that is pointed out. For the most part people of all ages are open to the idea of gaming. I mean gaming in general so also table top and other forms. But when you mention video games specifically, all they can think of are ads and news stories about violent high octane games for young boys with too much energy. That is in reality only a small part of the actual gaming community.
So the biggest win we can get with non-gamers, is to show them how many genres there are and to find a genre that aligns with their innate skills and interests.
For example my girlfriend is not a gamer at all but when Hogwards Legacy came out she got all kinds of exited and she played it so much that her skill level with a game pad went from nonexistent and being afraid for fight levels, to independently doing big quests with loads of action without breaking a sweat!
sounds like this was at least 20 years ago
@@ockertoustesizem1234 Nope, it was in the winter of 2022, I kid you not. And yes, I did just graduate last year in case you were wondering.
They have never heard of Angry Birds, Candy Crush, Pac-Man, Minecraft, and so on? That seems a little 'sus.'
@@tid418I believe it. People who don't know much about games are very ignorant and think it's only shooting if it's not Nintendo
When I was a kid, my parents never hated me playing video games but wanted me to have a balance of gaming and outdoor recreation, which was perfect. Neither played games in their lifetime but didn't think it was something I shouldn't do because other people say they're bad.
Same here, except I'm still decently young and most of the active things I do are indoors, whether it's an indoor court or mat.
W parents
always a k
That a good concern to have with game they can sometimes pull you in for a whole day missing out on other stuff that can be important even stuff that are good for your health like spending 20min in nature or at a park is good for your health before going back to your fake nature in your Zelda or stardew valley game
my dad was a casual gamer i think the biggest gaming haters were some of my teachers and my friends parents who were into homeopathy and thought he would get epilepsy from playing games for a few seconds my parents only said i should play outside and complained about having to buy batteries for the game boy
I grew up playing videogames my whole entire life with Nintendo,People still mocking players who play games seriously games have had huge impact on me and working my way into Game Design as well.
Because gamers are the only people who put pride on there useless activity. You dont hear people who constantly watch movie call themselves movier or people who watch tv tvier lol, only gamers and its embarassing
I played a bit call of duty when I was little but I also played Nintendo games. Even more for that matter. Take the Mario games for example. They have this type of fun to them that completely screws over any other game from Sony or Microsoft. Nintendo is basically the sole reason I like playing games! Their games are so unbelievably fun that they make it seem like making a game is just as simple as playing one!
I guarantee that if I never played a Nintendo game, I wouldn't be gaming as much as I do.
Ey I also want to do game design cause of then but it's so complicated right now. I really hope I pull through 😢
@@mr.junior7880 lol just use godot in less than a week you make simple games like mario. Just dont expect to be like a professional in overall design.
@@Beresunablle they call themselves "cinephiles", the term for gaming is different because it's a more active activity, the amount of time and effort you can put in a game is way bigger than the one you can put into a movie (I'm talking about the audience, not the creator of the game/movie).
@@Beresunablle What about the pretentious film "enthusiasts"
I never realized how difficult it was to get into gaming until my father recently got an Xbox. He already played games mostly on his phone and pc, so it’s not like he was new to video games. The main issue was actually the controller. He had never used a standard-esque controller before, and was having a lot of difficulty adjusting to it.
It seems a bit weird to not be able to use a controller to us console gamers, but if you think about it, properly using a controller is way harder than many of us give it credit for. It requires very efficient hand-eye coordination, both of your hands have to move independently, you usually need quick reflexes, you have to instinctively know which button does what, and you have to do all that while paying attention to the screen. Compare that to watching a movie, listening to music or even reading a book, which are much less intense activities to get into
I would say you can get used to a controller with 5-10 hours of practice, qithout skipling too much time between practice sessions.
Source: I learnt how to use a controller 4 years ago
Very much so. My grandmother has bad dementia and refuses to do a lot of activities to help her, a lot of which are being social. I've tried introducing her to some games, but even simple ones like minesweeper is impossible for her because she doesn't know how to right click on a mouse.
Yep, reality is, people don't often like games because *SKILL ISSUE* 🤣
"Oh no, something that isn't easy, must suck."
Nah bro, _you_ suck. Get good. 😏
@@Quartz512_ for people that never played a videogame before that is more like months instead of hours lol. like, really. some people really don't know how to use a controller.
Some games are actually extremely artistic apart from being great entertainment also.I think unfortunately society only values things that make a lot of money no matter what it is
Which is hilarious considering how much money gaming brings in. Hypocrites all of em
@@rulercamelot3687Fr
As someone who really enjoys gaming as a hobby there's no reason to hate on it, because wether people like it or not video games are still going to exist.
The gaming industry is much more profitable than movies AND music right now.
People that are saying that gaming is a waste of time are saying that having fun is a waste of time
W right there, bud.
The same people that watch football and get plastered all day doin it too.
Gaming, Movies, TV shows and Music all belong in one category tbh. The Entertainment industry. I'm not a Gamer but definitely don't see it as a waste of time, I just don't like games
@@iPhone-su8liThe evolution of games has brought about a significant shift in the way people engage with technology and entertainment. With advancements in graphics, gameplay, and virtual reality, games have become increasingly immersive and captivating. However, this progress has also given rise to potential dangers that may go unnoticed.
One of the most concerning aspects of the evolution of games is the growing addiction among players. As games become more advanced and offer more engaging experiences, individuals find themselves spending countless hours engrossed in virtual worlds. This addiction can have detrimental effects on personal growth and improvement in real life. Instead of investing time in developing real-world skills, pursuing hobbies, or building relationships, individuals may find themselves trapped in a cycle of gaming, neglecting their responsibilities and goals.
Moreover, the immersive nature of modern games creates a virtual world that feels like a second life. Players can create avatars, explore vast landscapes, and interact with other players in ways that mimic real-life experiences. This virtual reality can be so enticing that individuals may begin to prioritize their virtual lives over their real ones. They may find solace and fulfillment in the achievements and relationships they build within the game, leading to a detachment from the real world.
As individuals indulge more and more in these immersive games, they risk losing touch with reality and the world around them. They may become disconnected from their surroundings, neglecting their physical and mental well-being. Real-life responsibilities, such as work, education, and social interactions, may take a backseat to the allure of the virtual world. This disconnection can lead to a sense of isolation, hindered social skills, and a distorted perception of reality.
Furthermore, the evolution of games has also raised concerns about the impact on younger generations. Children and teenagers, in particular, are more susceptible to the addictive nature of games and may struggle to find a balance between virtual and real-life experiences. Excessive gaming can hinder their development, affecting their academic performance, social skills, and overall well-being.
In conclusion, while the evolution of games has brought about incredible advancements and entertainment opportunities, it is crucial to recognize the potential dangers that come with it. The addictive nature of these games, coupled with their immersive qualities, can hinder personal growth, create a detachment from reality, and negatively impact individuals' overall well-being. It is essential to maintain a healthy balance between virtual experiences and real-life engagement to ensure a fulfilling and well-rounded existence.
Brainwash by capitalism, if you’re not making money or improving a skill that could land you a job, it’s a waste of time
WHY CANT WE JUST AGREE THAT TIME HAVING FUN IS *NOT* TIME WASTED
Yes it is because you have share a planet with these dead weight losers
I’m a casual gamer who just wants to sit back and enjoy a fun game for a few hours in between going to work and doing chores. This is why I avoid a lot of games with a pvp element or online multiplayer games in general. Getting destroyed by other players in pvp or being ridiculed by some sweaty try hard for not having such and such gear is not relaxing for me.
Same. Biiiig contributions of time and effort are needed to even get that good. And you're punished for just wanting to have fun? Nah.
Exactly, I grew up mostly playing single player games. There are a few pvp games I like playing, but it's mostly single player for me.
Agree 100%. Games are meant to be fun and at times fun and competitive. Not just competitive. I've been solo majority of my gaming life.
Bro I am absolutely a single player kinda girl. Sometimes it’s fun to go online and absolutely destroy people in Mario kart 8 deluxe, but generally I more prefer a challenging single player experience. Celeste is my jam. Buuuut it’s not for everyone, and I respect people not being interested in it. (Though seriously I highly recommend Celeste if you have a good amount of free time and a decent amount of skill)
@@whitesausagedog5392I also love these single player games that are still competitive, geometry dash is my personal favorite
This is a great conversation starter on gaming’s impact on the self and society. Well done
I’m glad it tickled your fancy
Americans hate children. Nintendo marketed NES for the family, it was in the tech aisle to remind people of the VHS player. But this was taken as "eww, children". That's how long the bimbofication of US culture has been festering, it's just a shorthand for "eww immature nerds are like children, not like mature jocks reminding me of daddy".
And it is exactly that, even the dividing line to kissless virgins, and the women who brought the incest vibe to pom with "yes, daddy". The Western culture is long since predicated on class hatred being shifted to GENERATIONAL hatred.
Normal, adjusted kids would in a vacuum dress EXACTLY like nerds: the classic poindexter outfit is wearing the same clothes as your engineer dad. THIS is what female-led culture hates, the idea that you DO mimic your dad. The jock on the other hand is only as masculine as he is like an orphan, removed from civilization and just acting on base urges. This is how marketing can recycle every other generation as a new trend resurfacing, despite spinning its wheels.
It's just the tip of the iceberg. People don't understand just how influential gaming is to society as a whole. Not just in the USA, but in many other countries where it's popular too, such as Japan or Canada.
70 year old boomer that has been gaming since pong and continues to play video games. I could care less what people think about me they can have their own opinions. I enjoy gaming and after my quiet time I start playing my games or watch a movie. Gaming probably kept me sane during my 22 years as a law enforcement officer. Now since I'm retired I am enjoying what is left of my life. Happy gaming everyone.
most useless comment award
@@ZorroVulpes Sticks and Stones leftie no you have that award all by your lonesome.
...And the Most Useless Reply award goes to@@ZorroVulpes!!!
@@ZorroVulpes it's not useless at all. We need more people supporting others to just do their thing and not worry about what other people think.
Your comment, by contrast, is far less useful.
@@ZorroVulpes Most useless reply award
What angers me off the most about gaming being disrespected is that not only are the "critics" being hypocritical, because I can guarantee most of them either watch Game shows, reality TV, and modern news with all of the political garbage, Gaming is actually MORE productive than all of these that I listed because Gaming is an ART MEDIUM. An art medium that can be deconstructed, studied, and analyzed just like every other form of art from paintings, to literature, to film. It can even be argued that video games are *hypothetically* OBJECTIVELY BETTER as a form of entertainment due not only juggling traditional visual art, script writing, storytelling, film (Through cutscenes), but ALSO adds immersion through Gameplay. The more complex and well executed an art piece is, the better. Gameplay being the extra layer, here.
So to anyone who calls gaming a COMPLETE waste of time, Respectfully, Screw you.
lol well said
@@DerajjParallax Thanks!!
Also the music too
Its social medias that ruined the world
The 2000s were better .
@prettyoriginalnameprettyor7506 Seriously tho, the potential layers you can add to a game’s story through well-executed music is amazing
I swear 90% of people who undermine games never even read a single book.
@@SimuLord What is a goth girlfriend?
@@Avaitor_YTThe best kind
@@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 ???
@@guidedexplosiveprojectileg9943 Oh...😳
@deannal.newton9772yeah, you can watch a video without understanding anything because it genuinely is easier not to pause to understand than to do so. In a book, your forced to move at a pace where you can understand everything
“Maybe there's a benefit to being overlooked”
I have to agree with this. I'm not opposed to more people trying out games if they're sincerely interested, but at this point, games are widely available enough that anyone who really cares can easily seek them out. We can welcome those who approach us, but we need to actively recruit anyone beyond that.
I will always find it fascinating how a “contribution to society” is expected from an entertainment medium. I work in IT, my contribution to society is working on servers, my time spent modding SP games or digging through retro games is not for society, it’s for me, just as much as watching GoT or listening to an album isn’t something that contributes to society. No shade in any of these things, I’m mostly a creator-type, but my contributions to society are either passion projects or something I’m getting paid for.
Playing video games has increased my aspect of Alertness. Hand and eye coordination. It also has increased my ability to think logically, even find solutions to difficult puzzles and stacking of items in a specific way. For instance. In my job where I receive hundreds of packages for the hospital I work in. I stack pallets of boxes in a much more stable manner than my coworkers because I’ve played games that require you to build stable foundations in order to keep it from falling. Unlike my coworkers who just look for what fits wherever. Gaming can help a person build abilities they can use in the real world. Unlike just sitting there watching a screen for hours. Even my mom thinks I’m way smarter than her. Because I grew up playing video games
Not to mention playing video games can help improve creativity as well. Drawing video game characters is what got me good at drawing in the first place. I've written stories and made characters inspired by video games. There's just so many potential upsides to gaming that people just overlook because "gaming bad."
I feel like gaming made me a good driver. Very alert and quick reactions in case some ldlot cuts me off or I have to suddenly brake
Especially making games. Programming, making music, the visual art, even the psychology of how you want the player to feel; all these are applicable to many other things in life.
and also guess what. since im brazillian i have been playing games since 2011 and in all of those years i started to learn english in early middle school (around 4th grade) just cuz i played games
You can always tell who played Tetris growing up.
If gaming is a waste of time...
Sports are too
Any form of entertainment is too
Heck, why don't jobs lose meaning too? And life itself? Aren't the enjoyable moments in life the thing we live for?
Basically everything is a waste of time
This is what I’ve been saying this whole time. We’ve gone back around to bullying nerds because it’s gotten mainstream. You hear people all the time saying “you’re gonna die a virgin” or “you’re living a sad life”. I understand the critique of consumerism and atomization but blaming individuals only makes the problem worse because it makes people feel worse and more isolated. It’s just bullying.
Edit: said just far too many times lol
Edit 2: commenters proving my point
And the irony is the media bigshots don't even see it that way.
@@GladDestronger you’re right I’m talking about a different group of people but still
It's astonishing how many comments I see saying: "lol this is why we should go back to bullying nerds"
That they don't see the irony of their bad behavior?
"you’re gonna die a virgin" is such a weird criticism honestly. Like, sex isn't what life is about.
hot take: if video games didnt exist, then the tv and movie industries would not be enough to prevent a far worse reality than what we have now
Consoomer mindset
@@russianoverkill3715you are on RUclips
Explain further, please.
“Video games are for children”
Aahh yes, my favourite scene in children’s media;
The white phosphorus scene in ‘Spec Ops: The Line’
No Russian in MW2, the entirety of Alien Isolation/any other horror game, and anything in Subnautica. Even games that are meant for children, like Pokemon, have some really creepy pokedex entrys or imply some dark stuff.
I swear, gaming is just a combination of other mediums into one; arts for graphics, movies for them cutscenes, and music for banger soundtracks.
pretty much!
It's almost identical to movies, the only difference is the interactive side of video games, but I'm not sure if it can be used as an argument when talking about art in video games, even though it enhances the immersion.
@@legacymse7095 yeah u ain't wrong about that when it comes to games being more interactive than movies, considering that they're pretty much that, a medium involving a bunch of inputs to do something than just staring at something.
"Stop playing video games!!!!!! Grow up!!!!!!!!!! Be an adult!!!!!!!" - TikTok and RUclips addicts.
I hate tiktok and youtube shorts addicts so much. I hate them as much as the crypto coins scammers. They ruined my life. First of all, my family didn't agree with my gaming passion. Second of all I was told by some of my high school classmates to post content on tiktok, they said that it would be cool and that app fucking gave me a really bad addiction. Third of all, why i hate crypto, bitcoin, solana and nfts is because of a idiot ceo and dev who shutdown his diamond style open world game which was the last one of my favourite games, in search for fools gold (he created a trashly nft game). Fourth of all my Phone is trash and Asphalt 9 Legends became incompatible with my phone and my pc (the gt710 bottlenecked gaming king of 2016) was the last source to enjoy my favourite games, but even the emulators and the games themselves became laggy, unstable and incompatible with my pc. Fifth of all, my lenovo ideapad gaming 3i gtx 1650 laptop that my big bro bought me is my last source that can run games. My phone made me an addict and stole everything from me, almost... Ruined me almost completely... Sixth of all I'm an university college student and they gave me fu*king loadouts of work on projects and lots of exams, so i had to sadly consider gaming useless because of them. Seventh of all updates ruins everything in gaming and in apps and technology industry. Millions of old devices are filled up by loadouts of bloatware because of updates and these device become useless once the memory is full and the apps and games become incompatible. You think fancy graphics and nice skins makes a game better. For God's sake, NO...
Friendship makes a game better..
Eight of all I learned to fight against all of the and the world itself against everything that ruins me. I would destroy my phone at any second if i had a better one and I would completely quit the addiction of losing time watching content again and again. I watch content already since 2021 and I got bored, had enough. But instead I want to become a real content creator.
Nineth of all, I consider Real Life as a video game now. So am I still a gamer somehow? Anyway I still have some games in my laptop that sadly I never play them so much because I'm not really passionate for gaming anymore ( -I DON'T PLAY GAMES ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY STOLEN MY TIME AND MY LIFE...- ).
But gaming is Still a True Gem that They will Never Get It.
I know, right! I get bullied all of the time for liking video games, but the same people who bully me for that, but they do stuff like watch tick tock in class or only party, drink and do drugs, all things I don’t do
Listening to music is not really comparable to playing a video game. Playing an instrument is much closer to playing a video game.
You dont usually create art by playing a game to be fair. But with a musical instrument, you can
@@SolidusCurncer it depends on the game, just as it depends on the instrument. In both cases it depends on the player.
@@MegaLokopo are you saying that not every instrument can be used to compose a song?
@@SolidusCurncer no, but not every song is art. What is art is entirely opinion based. It is certainly not art when a toddler bangs his hands on a piano, at least not in my book. But it is art when Magnus Carlson plays chess.
@@SolidusCurncermost people playing an instrument aren't creating songs, just like most people playing games aren't developing games
I love seeing all the clips of people saying that video games are “a waste of time” “don’t help you grow or improve” “there is something better for you to do with your life” and all I need to do is look at the friends I’ve made, the lessons I’ve learned, and the feelings I’ve had all from playing video games. Throwing aside the whole “video games help reaction time” argument, a good video game grows you as a person, whether it’s struggling again and again through a difficult challenge, seeing yourself in the main character, watching them overcome their struggles, inspiring you to overcome your own, or simply just giving you a spark of light to hold on to in the dark, video games are far from a waste of time. And I think when people hear or see the word “gamer” they imagine someone who plays games every waking minute, it’s interesting to see that the general mental image of musicians or actors are these super attractive people, but gamers? Oh heavens no they can’t possibly be attractive, that would be admitting that it’s not a bad thing. All that is to say- video games are cool, and I like them a lot
It’s interesting. Simply absorbing a story is fine, but the moment you have any input it starts becoming childish. This isn’t even limited to video games; when was the last time you saw a CYOA book written for someone last high school?
Maybe it has to do with audience interaction being associated with shows for preschoolers and younger?
@@pretzelbomb6105that is indeed an interesting psychology, I myself play splatoon because I really love vibrant games as opposed to the grim ones, with a few exceptions like hollow knight for example
if i never play mario i would be dead
What've you done with those friends, lessons, and feelings, son?
I learned to talk from video games. I learned to drive from video games. I learned how to manage my resources, time and money from video games.
Still to this day my father has that same Generation X mentality of "video games being nothing but a random quick time waster not worth investing much time into", so much so that he still says "Hey son, are you playing Nintendo right now?", cause he literally thinks Nintendo is still the only video game console manufacturer in existence, ignoring that Sony and Microsoft are a thing and have their own video game consoles (yes, he'll do this even if you show him a PlayStation or Xbox console to his face).
He always viewed Gaming as nothing but a quick time waster and always wanted me to leave my house and do random activities outside that didn't involve Gaming at all, even sometimes scolding me and taking away my video game consoles (or just the AV cables) to make it harder for me to play them at home. After mom and him divorced, he never changed and never accepted me as a gamer, and he even goes as far as thinking that it's better for me to not be a hardcore gamer, to at best be a very casual one that rarely plays video games and is instead a bigger fan of playing sports or be all about cars and doing IRL Racing.
As an athlete who will run a half marathons for fun. The feeling I get from doing a race isn't far from the feeling I get when having fun in a video game.
Dopamine is dopamine. Some get it from running, some get it from a hard fought battle in a videogame.
In a world where children are growing up being told to that cops are out to kill them, half the country wants them dead, kidnappers are everywhere, where existing in a public space without a parent has become a crime, it makes sense why do much youth decides to game, and why millennials with children still game. You see these videos of people minding their own business and getting assaulted for it. Someone wants to play an instrument? Sorry, it’s too loud for your neighbors. Okay let’s try a public park. Oops, that’s disturbing the peace (a crime)
Oh lets jog around a pretty part of the neighborhood. Oops, got the police called on you because of your skin color, and now have had a tense and potentially deadly interaction with police.
The only thing we can do without being a criminal nowadays is put on our headphones, pick up our controller (or hop on our PC), open up discord, and game with the boys (or girls)
@@BitTheByte Thanks for the essay, it made me chuckle 😂
@@BitTheByte hope ur doing well
I'm an college student athlete and is true
It’s funny how one of the main stereotypes or tropes in TV media was the jock versus nerd, and how the jock plays sports while the nerd plays video games. And yet, on a more basic level, sports and video games share some common ground. Both of them can be vessels for amazing stories, retold between people or through visual media.
In sports, there’s moments such as the 1972 Miami Dolphins winning every single game in the season, and currently being the only team who’s achieved such a feat. Or stories about how long it took the Cubs or the Boston Red Sox to win a World Series. In video games, there’s a common idea of playing a game to its absolute limit, beyond what anyone intended when making it. Such as, playing Super Mario 64 while not pressing the A button, and spending hours doing simple tasks to break the game. Or, Tetris, a game programmed to be “too hard to continue” at one point in a session, and managing to play it until the game itself couldn’t continue. There’s more to both sports and video games than either side might give credit for, and it’s why movies and TV shows have been made covering these storylines.
It’s almost comparable to motorsport. While sure, your average first world society relies on cars and bikes for transportation, not everyone really cares about what that transportation can or has done. Your average person probably doesn’t care which car brand won Le Mans last year, or which NASCAR or F1 team was the best, and yet these sports have massive followings.
Another thing is playing sports and video games arent mutually exclusive. Most guys do both
just look at wrestling with their heroes and villains and characters and stuff!
@@yuriodavai2288 Oh yeah, Wrestling is just live action acting and showboating. It's impressive, granted. Takes a lot of training and good physical ability to pull that shit off, but it's not a fuckin.... MMA tournament or anything.
@@mdbgamer556 that's fair
That last one of the intro is really sad for the kid who did it, bc he was the first person (and was 13) to beat it, and was honouring his father
Imma be honest, Xenoblade Chronicles 3 (a *Nintendo* game) had a narrative that broke me, but in a good way. It came out and I played it at the perfect point in my life. No way games can’t be less than enlightening when comparing with movies.
I forgot I was watching that variety Xenotuber.
Xenoblade 3 was such a fantastic game
B-but new Xenoblade bad!!!
I played all Xenoblade games and their corresponding dlc's except for part 3 and its dlc. I have it in my backlog. I've heard it was good. I can't wait to play it, I'm still in the middle of Kirby's Return To Dream Land Deluxe, and afterwards the dlc for Cuphead.
I haven't played it yet, but I enjoyed XC2 and absolutely loved XC1, so I'm excited to finally getting around to playing XC3 this summer!
Let’s not forget the biggest barriers for gaming entry - hardware and game costs. Both are not cheap, neither gets cheaper with time, and the modern hardware requirements seem only to grow with each year while simultaneously the optimisation for older setups is completely abandoned (ex. Steam being unavailable for win7 or below). Additionally, while the indie sector gets a lot of praise, the ‘pixelart platformer’ is still seen as something cheap or bad at a first glance if you’re not following gaming news.
For me my entry to gaming was a tablet. Though admittedly i cant imagine thus working for not young children lmao. Theres still ways to get into it though, many services exist to allow even cheap systems or non at all to play games. You can go to a public spot with systems, im sure you can find one in a lot of areas if you look, or if you have a computer already you can use services like geforce NOW to play heavier games than your system could normally handle
@@dinoaurus1 true, though I doubt non-gamer public is familiar with systems like Now. All the same, at least the indie market is growing and growing, plus the current tech market tries to provide at least low end or medium quality hardware, which now usually qualifies medium end gaming, which is great!
@@prototypelq8574 I think a great way for budget gaming to be very mainstream is if big corporations decide to release budget stuff, everyone in the world has a phone and it's thanks to them offering budget models, heck there are even decent chinese phones that just cost 80-90$, in gaming however, a budget model at its least is 200$ and that is if it's smth like the switch lite and not to mention buying games seperately which would add up alot after a while
Now this was on the console side, however for pcs, it's much much worse, if you're a parent wanting to get a starter gaming pc for your child, 500$ is the best you can go unless you go used or buy 6-8 year old specs (even then, used)
AIO PC's, Portable PC's (such as the steam deck,rog ally and legion go) are a great market to introduce budget models and make the whole gaming scene more public friendly
lots of games are available on your phone, especially if you're willing to do illegal things.
Hardware isn't an issue anymore. Nearly every device sold these days is a supercomputer compared to what was available 30 years ago. As long as you're not interested in playing AAA titles as soon as they're released, you can have plenty of fun with older titles that run great on moderate hardware.
Surprisingly, this has been going on since the invention of the newspaper. People were saying back then that instead of talking with other people, they'd rather just read their newspapers.
I just don't understand why people say "playing video games is such a waste of your time!" Then proceed to binge watch breaking bad, like WHY?!
I’ve done both, neither are a waste of time
Breaking bad is 61 hours, but there is only one breaking bad and gamers game on average 8 hours a week. Both are a waste of time, but tbh the problem is that game hours are uncapped.
@@bencarlson4300 Yeah sure bud, procrastination is DEFINTELY a good use of your time!
@@theog_spider6212 And you responding snarkily to a random RUclips comment is a good use of your time?
@@bencarlson4300I suppose you are right, but you see, there is ONE measly flaw in your argument... I have a LOT of time on my hands.
I had a co worker once who said she couldn't wait for the day I grew out of video games.
Her only "hobby" was watching TV after work. Kind of a jerk.
You should have said, I can't wait for the day you grow out of being braindead.
@hexyellow9873 Saying that kind of stuff to your face (about any hobby) qualifies to be called "kind of a jerk".
its funny how most of their arguments amount to “its a waste of time” yet them talking crap about videogames is literally a waste of time itself ☠️
I feel that gaming as a whole shouldn't be compared to music or movies but instead to sports. Both are massive hobbies that a major portion of the world enjoys and for both you'll have people who enjoy different aspects of this massive umbrella term for their hobby. Just because you play baseball doesn't mean you'll enjoy hockey the same way that just because you play shooters won't mean you enjoy rhythm games. So games should be compared to sports since they are the most similar in nature.
Although sports are usually played competitively while most gamers play alone (e.g. single player campaign or cooperatively together with friends). But I get your point.
I see games as interactive movies where one has a say in the outcome. If you don't need/want the interactivity then just watch a Let's Play and you basically get a movie.
@@coondog7934 you want some single player sports? check out the olympics and events like tripple/long jump, 100 meter dash, shotput, etc. there are a bunch of sports played by a single person that while presented in a competitive manor by comparing scores/times like a speedrunning leaderboard, they're still single player, requiring no other people to measure your own success, so yeah, the sports comparison is indeed the most fitting.
Gaming can't really be compared to much of anything. Can't be compared to music or movies because it's interactive. Can't be compared to sports because many games are singleplayer.
@@user-gj6ft2kc5dlooks like someone hasn’t played many indie games
@@vibaj16they can be compared to table games, monopoly, DnD, etc.
*watching a movie*
"yeah they're just taking a break, enjoying their free time"
*listening to music*
"yeah they're just vibing a little to music, free time well spend"
*playing video games*
"what are they contributing to? They aren't helping anyone with this"
I don't get why it's so hard to accept gamers just want to have fun
why does gaming need a society-advancing goal?
Perfectly sums up 99% of the YT comments on this video
Give it a couple years they’ll say the same thing for the next big thing. And for gaming they’ll be like
“They’re just enjoying their time virtually”
my dad is exactly like that at times
Tbh outside of countries liek China and Germany music and art feel ostracized as well especially with this global defunding of the arts
@@seldomstudios6351my guess, virtual reality could be the next thing ostracised because you’re “living a lie/living in an illusion” and yet vr will probably help more people get fit compared to ‘flatscreen’ gaming
almost all the motivational channels on yt or insta accounts ive came across say to cut out gaming, that its a waste of time, but in my opinion if you enjoy gaming and its not effecting you in a negative way (addiction or raging) then its a great way to spend your free time. its not a waste of time if you enjoy it
I don't know, I just think it's kinda stupid how somebody can confidently say "wow, you're wasting your life away by playing video games in your spare time", and then turn around and binge watch Grey's Anatomy for the fifth time.
About as stupid as a 30 year old man child giving Ocarina his annual replay
@@zogwort1522 gaming is not stupid addiction to anything is stupid
@@zogwort1522 how is entertainment stupid?
@@zogwort1522 how is entertainment stupid
@@zogwort1522 Oh yeah? It’s stupid…huh. Pretty generic statement. Why don’t you elaborate? What hobby do you have?
Its also interesting that so many people in this video think people only play video games and dont have other hobbies that involve going outside or learning
Playing (and programming) videogames are my primary hobbies. But you know what else I love to do? I love camping. I love hiking out in the middle of nowhere setting up a tent, and spending a weekend cooking under a fire and staring into the stars.
It’s unfortunate a majority of places are off limits to camp, or cost an absurd amount of money for 2-3 days to stay. You know what doesn’t cost a lot of money? Garrysmod (a videogame) And over the course of a decade I’ve spent several hundred days worth of playtime in that game. I can play it when there are risks of flash floods, or when the snow is billowing down. There is absolutely no better bang for your buck than a game. You don’t need to dedicate a day to it, no need to take vacation (your job may or may not offer), and anyone can do it.
Some people are disabled, and “outdoor” hobbies nearly always exclude them. There are video games people can play with basic eye tracking software giving another avenue of entertainment for the paralyzed.
Do you listen to music, or how about to the cinema? What is so different about gaming and watching a movie?
Yes, some people are complete losers, but these losers are not always videogame addicts. You have people so obsessed with music they absolutely can’t function without it playing somewhere, always found with earbuds or a speaker playing loudly on the subway. What about movie fanatics who will go watch the same movie in theaters for an entire week, or sit down and watch the entire lord of the rings series in one sitting?
Atleast video gaming is a SOCIAL activity. More often than not, the games these “losers” play are multiplayer, and are interacting with other individuals. The dude blasting music over his Bluetooth speaker really isn’t.
In my case my hobby actively ties into my business of making games, but even if it didn’t ultimately what does it matter what others think? Why does it bother people that someone does something they don’t?
This kind of mentality is the cause of so much hate.
The funniest thing is, when I'd say I'm a gamer, they look at me funny when you then start talking with them about also having a full-time job they get confused. like, what? What else did you think was going to be the situation?
I'm 41, been playing games all my life but even i learned the dangers of gaming culture. Here is a list of dangers I ran into while enjoying the challenge, art, music and community of gaming: 1) Making friends inside a game who you though extended beyond the game, only for them to stop caring about you the second life needs your attention. 2) fulfillment addiction, Normally you want to achieve something in life to make a living or retirement but any energy you put into a game can't be passed on and gets lost after the servers go down. 3) Having friends who are "only gamers" limits conversations topics, we talk about games but when i bring up movies/ animations/ songs/ special events or etc, they draw a blank. This often leaves me in the position to only talk to them when gaming news about what they are currently playing. Friendships like that often didn't last after they started playing a game i couldn't have the time for. My selection for what game i give my time and attention has also changed over the years. Arthritis in the hands limits how long i can play heavy action titles and my personal preference these days, enjoy offline games with get great storytelling and worldbuilding. A few online games do it justice but a majority of them aren't focused on telling a story. So that leaves me in the middle feeling like games are a massive waste of time (because they don't contribute to putting food on the table or retirement) and gaming being one of the pinnacle of entertainment culture (Because of its ability to create common interest between those with diverse background and culture ). So its a balancing act of keep myself proactive in achieving my personal goals.
You have to be a nerd to memorize all the rules of football, but you'll never be considered one if you do.
FACTS! I still dont know all the penalties and strats used in that sport and it amazes that it aint nerdy to know all of them!
Idk, ball go to gates means goal, seems pretty simple
@russianoverkill3715 I get that, what I don't get is when they blow the whistle and the referee is talking in this fucking nerd language in the camera. The only reason it's not considered nerd language is because it has to do with athletics
@@russianoverkill3715 I still don't know what offside or whatever it's called is. There are always weird rules to sports that don't immediately make sense.
@@icebox1954 It's when at the moment of passing (kicking the ball to another player) the receiving player is further along the pitch than the second to last player of the opposing team (including the goalkeeper).
I can also explain how to slow push a wave in Leauge of Legends.
Razbutens “gaming for a non-gamer” series where he has the lady he lives with and sometimes his parents play games gives you a new perspective of just how hard it is for people to even move through dialogue.
My friends struggled to do recovery moves in Smash bros. because they'd press B and then pushed the analog stick up. It was hard to get them to time both inputs together.
I mean tbf a lot of video game dialogue feels it was written by a 13 years old.
The same could be said for most modern movies to have come out within the last fifteen years.
@@swordfish1390 you talk like only modern movies have that problem. Lots of 80s movies had adult characters talking like 13 years old, I played many classic rpgs that are considered masterpieces by “gamers” and many of them are nothing more than adults trying to make 14 years old think they are deep and smart.
@@jgnogueira Yep, but in this case they mean literally not know how to get to the next text box. The text box has a down arrow on it, so they're trying to press down to advance when you need to press A which you're just expected to know.
I noticed that we're in general still stereotyped as being unambitious shut-ins who are completely consumed by our hobby even if people aren't in general as ignorant as those examples in the beginning. People have a certain image of the adult gamer, and it's hilarious how people are shocked that I'm one. I enjoy teaching the lesson to people that gaming is just another hobby. I look like a femme fatale, have a full-time job, own my own house, have a boyfriend (and I earn more than he does), friends that I hang out with every Friday evening and Saturday evening, am outdoors a lot (I live in a small rural town in northern New Hampshire), and I love video games. It's almost a meme at my workplace that I'm playing my DS or 3DS during lunch (and oftentimes indulge in gaming in mornings and evenings for an hour here and there, especially on Sunday after I finished my weekly cleaning). I love the classic Mario, Sonic, Zelda, Pokemon, etc games but also games like Sim City are fun. I'm the youngest person at my place of work by far (I'm 27, everyone else is between 38 and 55, we work at the front desk of a hotel/lodge) and I do notice a bit of a generation gap with regards to gaming. They're real nice people and I consider them friends but I can tell I have a very different perspective on games than they do. They see gaming as something mostly kids and teens do so they kind of see it as "Victoria's still kind of a young kid, that's why" (and I kinda am in comparison to them).
It is people like you that breaks the stigma. Thank you.
Why did you mention you make more than your boyfriend? Nobody asked lol..gaming stereotypes might be the least of your problems.
And you’re not a young kid. Your nearly 30 year old grown woman.
@@Tepaneca Compared to my corowkers, I'm a "kid". They're the ones who refer to me as a kid, and not literally. Trust me, I know full well that I'm an adult.
I mentioned my income because of the stereotype that gamers have no real disposable incomes due to no jobs.
In the future, try reading a little slower so that you can take the time to comprehend what the other person says a little better. 😀
@@andregomes6845 You're awesome! You're welcome and thank you for this! Keep on being awesome!
It's so insane how many of these super low-subscriber channels in RUclips keep making pretty engaging and well-informed video essays on interesting topics these days. I would've sworn this channel had at least 50,000 subscribers.
I remember the first time as a kid a friend showed me Final Fantasy 7 on a PlayStation, and raved about how good it was. Tbh, I was intimidated by it. There were so many menus and complex character optimizations with Materia and what not. It felt like a really complicated system. Later I fell in love with JRPG's, including FF7, but I do remember that initial intimidation factor. Playing games is second nature to those who grew up playing them. But for people on the outside, the game mechanics, and how to play can all seem very intimidating.
Really nice to know your wife is supportive of your hobby!
Yes, I’m very lucky! I’ve heard of some people whose wives don’t like that they play games, but just tolerate it. Also, I can’t remember if I’ve ever said this in a video so forgive me if I’m repeating myself, but my wife is actually the reason I started a RUclips channel in the first place
i bullshit you not. My ex hated that i game (even though i divided my time for her, my goals and hobbies) but my current goth girlfriend enjoys watching me play and isnt a nuisance. Its a win
@@coreyondavis6032Goth mommy gamer
Wow man this video really blew up in views overnight@@DerajjParallax
I mean, not a particularly good relationship if your partner isn't supportive of your hobbies.
if we add logic to the equation everyone is a loser if everyone is watching streaming services, social media or tv because of the concept that all evolves sitting or standing behind a screen for down time and/or relaxation purposes. Sometimes people really need to shut up and prioritize logic over temporary emotions
I think most people only say what they think that they are expected to say about most kinds of different things and they dont care at all if what they say makes any sense or if its even true or not.
Most people simply cant think for themselves they will just automatically think the way they have been programmed to think and most people have been programmed to think that video games should not be taken seriously but things like movies and TV shows and sports and music should be taken seriously.
@@CyberLance26 it's all called hypocrisy
What’s weird is that gaming can be one of, if not the most artistic form of art there is, other art forms you don’t really have a sense of agency, in gaming you make the choices, which can really add to the story in a way that watching a movie or reading a book could never do. I don’t think books or movies are bad either, I’m just saying games are much better than people give credit for.
Exactly! Its a bunch of talented people with talented skills. Writing because of lore, story wise and character ideas, drawing designs, creating 3d models (depending one what kind of game you are making), music makers, people who go out and take inspiration and pictures of the real world for inspiration, voice actors, i mean theres so much to list off but it's so many talented people. (Like look at Cuphead, that game created something that NOBODY else has ever done)
You made some good points in this video. I remember when growing up my mom would always scold me about my gaming "addiction" even though she would watch TV every night. I never really understood it. I do think part of it is that people are brainwashed by the media. I feel like most people don't really try to examine their own thoughts. They just go along with how they were raised. As an adult I don't really care anymore though. No matter what you do in life, there will always be people who will dislike you. Trying to appeal to others is the biggest waste of time if you ask me. Also, if people want to believe that games can't teach or enlighten someone, that is their own loss. Everyone has their own idea of what being "cool" is, but the people who go around criticizing others for their tastes probably have some serious insecurities.
I think baggage plays into the feeling of being an outsider as well. It may be my bias as a 90s kid, but as a child, gaming was the "loser's" hobby. It isn't anymore, and I think that's great, but unfortunately, the baggage from growing up in the "gamers are losers" era stuck with me. I find myself falling into all sorts of patterns other slandered groups have to deal with. Things like feeling the urge to separate myself from certain types of gamers. All the little coping methods I used back when I needed them.
When everyone tells you at a young age that you've got a problem if you're a gamer, it can stay with you, even after they stop. And to make matters worse, that same baggage can cause you to pass it on to your own kids if you're not careful.
I'm a 90s baby myself and I remember this and still go through it in a way. Now with what I've learned I know how to combat it. I will start to ask:
- Does watching TV increase hand-eye coordination?
- Does watching TV increase problem solving skills on a high school to college level?
- Does watching TV help with reaction time?
7:00 Very true. In the Bible Belt and rural US, Some families who got TV sets would get the ones on wheels so that they could be quickly rolled away into a closet or some such place so that guests or neighbors wouldn't see that they had a TV. My mom talks about those days. She didn't have a TV growing up because they were poor but her cousin did. Apparently they would watch TV over there but it was more on a need-to-know basis.
Fun fact: Robin Williams named his daughter after Princess Zelda and he was even in the OoT3D ad back in the day
@@zogwort1522 how so?
After studying Marketing, I came to comprehend that there will never be a way to sell a single product effectively to every single human being, may it be because of age differences, culture, tradition or simply what some people like, and at the end of the day that's ok. You just gotta focus on that specific group and the people that do like your product and will make the most out of it. I think it's similar in life, it doesn't matter if not everyone in the world will like gaming, you only gotta find that small community that do like to and stick with them because that's the place where you belong. No matter if everyone else sees you as a weirdo, you aren't hurting anyone, just enjoy life... After all, you only have 1
People don't respect us because we don't act dignified and respectable. Just look at henry cavil, dude is respected even though he is one of us, then look at the average gamer, they look nerdist and a push over. Compare that to nerds in sports games, they look better in appearances.
I appreciate you calling out the generational myopia phenomenon in this video. It's interesting how often gaming gets called out by people who spend hours watching TV and movies (personally) and by media heads who need viewers to make money (globally). It's as if they have something to lose - don't shine the light on me or gaming takes away from my bottom line
I think games are more akin to books than to movies or music. Both are active, you are actively reading/playing, you aren't just a spectator, the progress of your enjoyment depends on your commitment to the activity. Everybody watch tv/series/movies and listen to music because is easy, not many read (or play games) because they are "difficult"... in fact, most of the hobbies aren't like watch media or listen to music, most hobbies require you do something and not just be a passive consumer.
I agree.
Music and TV/Movies (except Anime Japanese sub required) = Passive
Gaming and reading = Active
Even in games like Pokémon you have to read
You make a very good point when you say that TV and movies don't have much of a stigma, which is strange. they could be considered timewasters just as easily.
Video games require engaging with the media to consume it, and old people don't want to put in that effort.
Not all old people, but definitely some. I think the only exception was the Wii and maybe the DS lol
I think it's a little bit more complicated. Games require their own literacy. If I show you an opera or ballett piece, unless you are familiar with the genre you probably won't enjoy it as much. They require their own kind of literacy to get behind that is different from most pop culture. But it is still a passive medium you are most likely familiar with, thus can extrapolate why someone might like it.
Most games are complex pieces of media history stacked on top of each other. So many system you as a player grew to be familiar with, as most modern gamers are millenials and younger.
The aspect of interactivity creates this strong barrier. Only the person playing will understand what a game really feels like. Additionally, due to their average length, people that are familiar with classic media lengths can't really fathom sitting down for 3-4h a day to play one single story.
@@yarion4774
I'm still flabbergasted that someone could even hear "3-4 hours of story per day" and think "this shit hasn't evolved beyond pong." There should be a basic level of understanding that that is a _big fucking story,_ but they don't even deign to acknowledge the _possibility_ that something interesting could be in there.
...Now, five seasons of some schlock on Netflix... They're always down to binge that.
@@yarion4774a youtuber whose name i dont remember right now made a series about what games are like for non gamers and it was pretty eye-opening from the small amount i watched
@@dinoaurus1 Razbuten did that with his wife (formerly known as the lady he lives with)
Since my childhood, i was treated like dirt : "you read/watch comics/manga/cartoons/anime", "you would like to become an Illustrator ?!", "you are friend with him? Why not that one ? He would be better". Now it's "you play video games"! There would always be a problem if we were to listen to "them". And even among gamers we see people venting out by belittling other fellow gamers
But it doesn't matter. Or rather, it does not have to matter.
I am now in my 30ies, and i still try my best to reject the very first diktat society sold us : be famous, be the best, be rich, yada yada
People, gamers or not, stop seeking recognition from others. Build your own world where you are accepted. Choose who you share your life with. You do not need any thing else
@@zogwort1522 wow you must be so sad. I hope you find solace in the near future. Meanwhile, rest assured : your pathetic attempt has no impact
@@zogwort1522 Free speech and seeking recognition are two very different things
@@zogwort1522 Are you claiming that journalists are only seeking recognition when reporting on important issues then?
Play almost any game with competitive pvp. Games aren't always the problem. It's the lack of maturity behind the screen that don't deserve respect most often.
As a gamer, I can confirm we deserve absolutely no respect, but that will not stop me!
As a cod player, the shit I say on voice chat shouldn’t give me respect
Thank you for understanding your place in society. We appreciate your lack of entitlement. If gamers wanted respect, they should've gone to a more alpha/chadface hobby like sports or weight-lifting. It's like the guy in highschool who thought he was a hot-shot because he's captain of the chess team. The ladies don't go for chess players, and other guys don't really respect chess players either. Socially, gaming and chess are in the same category. They're great hobbies in their own class, but if someone is trying to use these hobbies to gain the same level of respect as the highschool football star, good luck chuck.
Your humility has my respect.
@@canadianturtle7240…not you though
@@BolbyLorenz-su1wewell that sounds like a wake up call to stop saying that stuff man
Have you tried going on cod and being polite?
Gotta make people PLAY games to understand games.
But the problem is; you can't force someone to play games or it'll lose its charm in the first place. Especially to those who's never hold a controller before.
You CAN however try introduce it to them when they are young, that’s what I am trying to do with my cousins’s children, not to force them into it, but to try spark an interest in it as soon as possible.
The people who don't like or play video games tend to view the medium similar to that as an illicit drug. Something to be consumed to help you escape and avoid your problems. Another thing to point out is one of the reasons the medium is growing in popularity with men is because video games provide one of the few outlets for men to problem solve. The west is a gynocentric society, and the outlets for men are far and few between
Society when a kid speedruns tetris :
Society : ew, touch grass.
Society when a 30 year old man kicks a ball :
Society : OMG YOU'RE HIRED!!
It's because of money and status of course
@@thundageon5962 not that, it's that the 30 year old just kicked a ball.
I mean there are professional gamers, devs, competitions, and game shows too. Like gaming yt-ers.
You kind of missed the point of what people who say touch grass, and it's kind of different between gaming and going out or kicking a ball. They meant that it might be good to get exercise, go out, not strain your back too much, or have some nature, especially if some people are cooped up so much like some gamers or internet users.
"Touch grass" is said to people who spend too much time on the internet, watching tv, inside, or are too anger or mental too. I'm not saying people have to go out cause I don't much either. But I understand some of the "touch grass" people meant well.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c seriously tho, a certain news reporter actually bullied a kid for completing a impossible game.
This really says a lot about society
Another warning sign of people who smear games, they think Anime is just Video Games too, or anything from Japan is just Gaming.
This is when you can see that they generalize everything entertainment from Japan as being, oh it's all Video Games.
My mom unironically tells me to 'stop playing videogames' when I'm just scrolling on Twitter. She thinks everything on the computer on or on my phone is a video game somehow
@@MaxMonado this is why nobody likes america outside of america , its a country that generalize everything wth no logic .
i hate that people are not allowed to waste their own time, not that gaming is a waste, but what you do in your free time should be your own choice,
Over Christmas, my friend was in town, and he needed to get a sim card for his cell phone, so I took him to an AT&T store. While we were there, we ended up talking to the 2 people who worked there for a while about video games. They were also gamers as well. It was definitely a good experience.
i think its some people are like "your hobby doesnt contribute to the world" but like, whos hobby does? is that what the point of a hobby is? just having fun? i mean seriously working out or reading or watching movies isnt adding to the world either.
Hobbies and entertainment helps with mental health, teaches things, and has helped people choose their path in life. Similar to discussing history and philosophy. I would rather people doing hobbies than crime and vices.
Nah, my knitted sweater my mom made is THE KEY to world peace, I just don't know how yet
I work in software/tech, and gaming is normalized to a surprising degree among tech circles, to the point that I consider tech and gaming to be "sister industries".
I read a study a while ago about comparative skill development in first-person shooters and RPGs vs the 'control' of non-gamers. First person shooter players made decisions faster, no surprise, but made MORE ACCURATE decisions faster. RPGs, they couldn't find a particular skill, but noticed that RPG players reported far less rates of nightmares and much higher rates of either dissociated dreams (things happen, not to ME), or control of their dreams (it's not scary, it's intense).
Games train us. Shooters train us to make fast and accurate decisions, because that's what they reward. RPGs train us to ... I guess dissociate? Which is a genuinely good skill to have at times. It helps you process what's happening to you, and around you.
We need more studies like this. What do different games train us to do, to be?
Plus, a lot of games force you to ask questions in a much more personal way than TV or books or movies. It's not the CHARACTER doing the thing that may or may not be ok, it's YOU.
Games have a TON of unrealized potential because everyone's too busy seeing them as a waste of time.
That's a very interesting observation! I've been playing shooters for 30 years. I never thought to consider how gaming may have contributed to my driving skills. I've developed a situational awareness where I know everything that's going on around me inside of a 500 meter radius. I'm able to predict the actions of other drivers before they happen. Nothing catches me by surprise. I've developed the reflexes of a rally car driver, and also trained myself to be able to handle highly adverse road conditions. I remember a time I was in a white out snow storm, driving past mangled guardrails, and seeing dozens of abandonded vehicles in the ditches. Despite my calm driving style, I also had a keen awareness that slipping up even once could potentially be fatal. I suppose I gamified my driving skills. I pushed myself to learn things and master skills that most other drivers don't. Interestingly, I don't really like driving games. I find them too disconnected from the actual experience of driving.
Music is level 1: it's passive and it doesn't take all your attention as you can drive or do chores while listening.
Movies/TV/streaming is level 2: it's passive and takes your attention.
Gaming is level 3: it's interactive, and takes your attention.
My wife and I have had this conversation. She mentioned video games being childish. And I brought up the fact about phones and also people spending hours watching tv as a waste of time while a video game isn’t passive like tv. And she came back with “I think kids should play sports instead of video games” and I replied with “okay, but adults don’t. Adults sit in front of the tv watching the sports trying to relive glory days or live vicariously.” The conversation stopped when I explained how I was ridiculed in school for being a nerd and playing games.
Games are a art form and bring joy and happiness to dark times and actively help anxiety and depression.
And when people ask me my favorite youtubers and roll off like 3 or 4 gaming channels they look at me weird like thats not what youtube is for.
I mean, all I would ask for is that gaming is simply respected. Not to normalized or anything necessarily like other media, but just that people don't see it as a bad thing that someone is a gamer.
@@zogwort1522 gaming isn't really that different from, like fishing or something in the sense of what it's popularity/what it entails. Fishing is something most everyone can do. Not everyone will, but it's generally respected as something that a good person would do. It doesn't require too much physical strength. Gaming is really quite similar. The only big difference is that fishing takes place outside. All I'm hoping is that people respect gaming to the general level of fishing in this example.
@@zogwort1522 not recreational fishing, from what I know, which is more along the lines of what I'm trying to say.
@@zogwort1522 Why should they see it as a bad thing ?
Seems I'm gonna be THAT guy, but even as i play for very long periods, my posture is way better than my parents, or even my more athletic friends
@@zogwort1522 What deeper psychological issues? If your gonna bring up a point you've got to have proof
I remember famous filmmaker Guillermo del Toro saying that the way the general publics discredit for gaming as an art form is similar to how the older generations saw comic books he even calls video games as the "comic books of our time" and he says that games like Ico and Shadow of the Colossus are examples of gamings artistic potential so I really respect him a lot in that regard
Lately Ukrainian soldier (bradley operator) said that video games helped him to win a standoff with a T90 tank. I mean if saving your life doesn't count I don't know what does. And there are countless examples how games saved peoples lives, helping them with depression, learning skills that they could actually use in real life etc. I could easily find a lot things that people like doing which could also be considered as a "waste of time".
How… how did it save his life?
@@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cche enacted his self defense rights
@@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cc Probably played Warthunder. I would assume it helped his aim since Warthunder ballistic physics are very accurate.
@@Alpha_GameDev-wq5cche said that he used to play games like Warthunder, World of Tanks etc so he knew the exact weak spots on that exact model and was able to hit them almost perfectly, which in the end saved his and his crews life.
I do believe you guys, but can I get a source on this? I really wanna read this guy’s story in detail
One big gripe i have with the videogames are a waste of time arguement is that the games can be used to make content and people can make a living off of it while you can't just watch your favorite sitcom to make money, (i know its only a few, but you can do it and its much more accessible)
That's a huge reach tho. Being a successful gaming channel requires you to have an actual personality. And I hate to say it, but most gamers are socially awkward people.
@@hwanniggles187 My point is more that it can be done, and also the power of editing can let more socially awkward people make quality content.
I would agree if react Channels didn't exist, or review channels, ect.
3:04 omg I just love this man’s voice
I barely saw any Game theory or any of that but I still find it nostalgic? Great voice from matpat ❤
Y'know, I think you gave the best message that this topic needs. As I'm an adult transitioning into a larger career, I don't have much time for games as I used to. I still love it so much, but there are bigger responsibilities that I have to face. Still, it's important to love what you love, and instead of forcing others to understand or pretending to be someone you're not, accept the things you love and share it with others in a generous way.
I often find a comparrison between gaming and sports as hobbies. Both gaming and sports have their own separate loops of knowledge and information. There are dedicated channels for sports newsjust as there are dedicated areas for gaming news. The difference might be that sports are easier to join casually because half of the sports hobbiest only have to watch the games while the gamers haven't quite gotten to that level with accessibility in that type of enjoyment, especially with the current state of twitch and the feelings older people have towards the internet and youtube in general.
The biggest dofference is that in one of them you do exercise, something healthy.
I just saw a video with this to say: Video games are a hobby, not a lifestyle. Don't need to obess over it like its your whole life.
Look, I love building plastic model kits, and I always want to get my friends into the hobby of build & painting plastic models, but I already know that it ain't gonna be mainstream, and most people I mention my hobby to will just skirt around the surface level conversations. That's ok, as long as I can enjoy a hobby, it does not matter what the acceptance level is.
Also, I don't ask people what their favourite movies or music are, some people just don't have a particularly strpng preference about these things. I usually open with how their days are going or how's cause that's just more universal.
I have been a gamer my whole life and my family showed me so much love despite the games not being their most enjoyed thing. I want to become a game dev to give back to the world the joy i experienced as kid, but somethimes i get scared that the world will not accept me.
This video helped me realize that thats okay, I dont need the mainstream to accept me, I will simply do my best to show people the value in gaming and the value of the gamer. I want to introduce outsiders and remind gamers why we do what we do, because at the end of the day, we fell in love with games for a reason, just like any other hobby that takes dedication.
What is important to me is opening people up to new perspectives regardless of where we come from or how inclined you are to take on an experience some else has had. Thank you for inspiring me to keep pushing foward and I hope one day for my games to bring you new joy and new friends.
I grew up with video games myself. There's many life lessons that I personally may not of learned or been able to handle appropriately had I not been a gamer, large part thanks to the variety of games Ive played in my life. A perfect example is how I started off not caring (not to such a great extent at least) about the differences in other people until getting into anime games. And MMORPGs taught me how important it can be to plan and spend your time and resources depending on wants and needs at that moment thanks to games like Warframe, and though not an MMO, Minecraft.
I even these days sometimes choose to pick up a game I otherwise wouldn't just because of the great songs used in them. A bit over a year ago, I played a Devil May Cry game, DMC5, for the 1st time thanks to having heard the song Bury the Light. And now, I have an appreciation for the DMC games as a whole.
Video games are definitely an art form. I appreciate the memories Ive made in them, and I don't want to forget those ever. I want to share those memories with others, so that maybe they too see what I do if possible.
@@zogwort1522 If you're that annoyed about something barely worth mentioning like that, you don't wanna know the "problems" I've seen. Besides, everyone has made grammatical issues at least once, even you I'm sure.
@@zogwort1522 Are you that bored that you're seriously worried about correcting simple grammar mistakes from random people across the internet? What are you even accomplishing? Isn't there something more important you need to be doing right now? What's your problem?
@@zogwort1522 I think you might just be a bored troll. Have fun, bucko.
@@zogwort1522 Hey. Hey who are you and why should I even care?
As an INTJ, learning new skills, mechanics and overcoming challenges are what fulfills my soul. Even though I do play games for fun, it is more of a tool for expression than anything else. Outside of that, the thrill of victory and agony of defeat against strong competition is what draws me to games, not the allure of flashing lights and loud sounds. Many people often have opinions of things they have little experience with, which is why you take it with a grain of salt. Like most hobbies, what you take out of it and put into it is entirely up to the individual. If you let it consume your life, it will.
I am thoroughly impressed by this video. Thought-provoking and entertaining. Kudos!
The only nuance I'd like to add to this conversation is that a lot of what you cover in this video applies to more "core" gaming experiences, which is part of what I feel makes "gaming" so insular as a hobby. However, there are types of games which do penetrate the mainstream, they're just so casual or abstracted that it is difficult to sustain any sort of discourse or prolonged conversation about them. Wordle comes to mind, specifically. It was mainstream enough The New York Times bought it, directly.
You're absolutely right. I would say most of those are so similar to tabletop games or board games that the mainstream almost considers them more so electronic versions of those types of games, if that makes sense. A lot of them are kind of in a realm of their own which is why I didn't include a section about them in this video. Though an argument could be made for why I should have.
The mainstream media definitely does not consider games like Wordle an extension of board games lol. Board games are definitely a more niche hobby than video games (as someone who is a massive enjoyer of both). More people have probably played at least one board game in their life, but in general, people know more about video games than they do about board games. Wingspan came out in 2019, and was a big enough deal I knew about it as someone who (at the time) had played a handful of social deduction board games (nothing like Wingspan lol), I had heard that it existed and was good. Excluding party games, that's the only board game I can think of that got that level of mainstream attention, and all I knew was that it existed.
"Games" is a super broad category, and there are some that cannot be categorized. Wordle is most analogous to a crossword puzzle or sudoku, and those generally aren't even considered games. How about tag, or hide and seek? Those are games, but I can't really put it into a deeper category than that (the only one that comes to mind is "children's games," but describing the player does not describe the game). Or within video games and board games, there are games that are so mainstream they kinda don't count anymore. Like Candy Crush, or Monopoly. You're not a video gamer because you play Candy Crush, and board gamers couldn't care less about Monopoly, but they are undeniably within those categories.
Those types of games are an interesting discussion, but I don't particularly think they're super relevant to the point of this video. This video talks about video gaming as a hobby, which is independent of playing Candy Crush or Wordle. I definitely agree that they're in a realm of their own.
@@DerajjParallax Why would you separate board games so strongly from video games? They're both practicing game design as an art form. They have different constraints, sure, and often have different audiences, but so do movies and TV shows. Games are games, I'd say. I think the real dividing line in games is games as art/entertainment vs games as sport.
a bit unrelated, but i searched up that game to see what it was, and the Google logo changed apprearance lol
another factor that slowed down the adoption of gaming as a mainstream pastime is that social media was introduced right on their renaissance, pretty much overshadowing them. If today we didn;t have social media but we still had powerful portable devices people would spend more time playing stuff on them, but scrolling is more addicting for less attention and effort
Overshadowed? I think social media helped more people get into gaming and other interests. Especially when it's hard for some people to afford games or other hobbies.
Social media arguably helped gaming become mainstream, what are you talking about? There’s a reason the 8th gen consoles all had designated social media buttons on their controllers