They’ll probably add a Washington Naval Treaty era ship no one ever heard of before; that’s even worse than Northampton before adding Baltimore but yes I’d love to see it
Fantastic, I love to learn more about the history of the ships, loved the video! It really makes me think why gaijin added Northampton after Portland in game, but still, it's a very cool ship, I'm loving to use Portland and I will spade Northampton after I spade Portland. With the sure addition of battle cruisers by the end of the year, it makes me think what ship might come to the American tree...
If I had to guess, America will likely get the Alaska. It's not a Battlecruiser but it should be on par with early BC's in power. It could also be Des Moines; Despite being a CA, it might have a good chance against early BC's with how Gaijin favors fire rate over per-shell damage.
@@flippedstug9517 I agree, Alaska is also my first bet for America, but I need to research more about Des Moines, I don't know much about it yet. One of my friends is betting on Baltimore or Wichita, even though Wichita is a Heavy Cruiser. I believe Wichita is possible, but I think Alaska is more likely indeed....
@@mattf4u-496 I have always wondered why I do not see that they have AP ammunition, I would like to know if the empire at some point considered placing AP on the 127 mm naval guns, or if there was any development or manufacture of these.
@@jorgee.j.m4133 its cus for the japanese destroyers werent meant to use their guns on anything larger than another destroyer, instead, they focused on their long lance torpedoes. The destroyers role in the IJN was for night raids, night battles where they would let lose their torpedoes at the enemy fleet. During the supposedly "decisive battle" between battleships that never came (uh kinda...), the destroyers were supposed to let lose a massive barrage of torpedoes at the enemy fleet at night while being supported by the IJN's fast battleships/cruisers, this would have been the kongo class at the time. Then the main battle line would've finished off what remained the day after. Of the few times they actually executed this tactic, although they didnt have battleship support, was the 1st battle of savo island.
The 8 inch 55 caliber gun turrets were protected up to 6 inch shells. There is a 8 inch 55 caliber gun turret from USS Louisville CA 28 in the Nevada Desert used for atomic bomb testing. It was hit by kamikaze and 500 lb bomb on Jan. 5, 1945 in the Pacific. There is a Y-tube of that My dad who passed in 2017 at age 92 was on her from 1943-46 and witnessed (52) sailors buried at sea including Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler.
Very interesting stuff, while I’m not a huge fan of naval, it is still an interesting topic. I also like this kinda video where you guys go over the historical aspects of the vehicles in detail
Look, it's the Portland's (somewhat) sibling ships! Although I really mean somewhat, as the Northamptons only had the same main guns and hull, other than that, the Portland's werr closer to the New Orleans than anything. (Admittedly, I could be wrong because I am not the best with memory of facts). Also, while Portland was seaworthy, she rolled like a bitch, and actually earned the nickname of The Rolling P., where as her sister was notable because she really didn't roll too much, which was odd, because her design was exactly the same as her sister except for two times I can thinm of that woulf majorly change the look and weight of the ship: When she got her SG and SA radar and Portland only recieved her SA radar; and when she recieved repairs after the battle of Okinawa, and, unbeknownst to the crew, modifications to make her better able to carry the parts needed for the Atomic bomb Little Boy, but even that didn't really change her.
If you look at photos from the late war, it's difficult to tell Portland from Chester and Louisville and Indianapolis from Augusta as the surviving Northamptons did away with the tall tripod masts and adopted a superstructure that more resembled the Portland-class. Indianapolis was built with the extended forecastle of the Northampton-class fleet flagship layout found on Houston, Augusta, and Chicago, while Portland had the division flagship layout that Northampton, Chester, and Louisville did. The New Orleans-class was a clean slate design that had little in common with their predecessors.
I'm not an expert on the Japanese navy, though the main source I used for this video listed the Myoko as Japan's first-generation Heavy Cruiser. The Aoba-class is a modified Furutaka-class, which was designed before the Washington Naval Treaty. The Myoko was the first design made from the ground-up with the Washington Naval Treaty passed. I suppose it comes down to whether or not we're considering the first cruisers finished or the first designs finished after the treaty to be the first ships of the treaty, though I believe it goes to the Myoko historically.
Gaijin are greedy idiots. They only added another crippled US heavy cruiser to force players pay real money for getting to future Baltimore-class cruisers quickly.
I'd be fine with it if they had made it relatively cheap, like 170k-220k. Putting it at 320k after a 270k ship that's a direct upgrade is just dumb, however.
I hope I get to finally see the USS Baltimore sometime soon. That, and maybe the USS Bremerton.
I really want the Baltimore, I'd love to cover it both in War Thunder and as a historical overview.
They will be added, if they added the New Orleans class, and if they caually add the Wichita as a premium, they will add the Baltimore
They’ll probably add a Washington Naval Treaty era ship no one ever heard of before; that’s even worse than Northampton before adding Baltimore but yes I’d love to see it
Love the content flipped stug, keep it up and be safe for you and your family. Cheers.
The crossover I've been waiting for :>
Woo! Northampton class recognition! Awesome vid, I would definitely love more historical overviews
Fantastic, I love to learn more about the history of the ships, loved the video! It really makes me think why gaijin added Northampton after Portland in game, but still, it's a very cool ship, I'm loving to use Portland and I will spade Northampton after I spade Portland. With the sure addition of battle cruisers by the end of the year, it makes me think what ship might come to the American tree...
If I had to guess, America will likely get the Alaska. It's not a Battlecruiser but it should be on par with early BC's in power. It could also be Des Moines; Despite being a CA, it might have a good chance against early BC's with how Gaijin favors fire rate over per-shell damage.
@@flippedstug9517 I agree, Alaska is also my first bet for America, but I need to research more about Des Moines, I don't know much about it yet. One of my friends is betting on Baltimore or Wichita, even though Wichita is a Heavy Cruiser. I believe Wichita is possible, but I think Alaska is more likely indeed....
Northampton is my favorite heavy cruiser and always will be because I respect the ship
I wonder if an IJN DDs 5in shells could pen those turret faces...
I’m not sure if Japanese DDs have AP but if they do then yeah, if close enough
@@mattf4u-496 I have always wondered why I do not see that they have AP ammunition, I would like to know if the empire at some point considered placing AP on the 127 mm naval guns, or if there was any development or manufacture of these.
@@jorgee.j.m4133 its cus for the japanese destroyers werent meant to use their guns on anything larger than another destroyer, instead, they focused on their long lance torpedoes. The destroyers role in the IJN was for night raids, night battles where they would let lose their torpedoes at the enemy fleet. During the supposedly "decisive battle" between battleships that never came (uh kinda...), the destroyers were supposed to let lose a massive barrage of torpedoes at the enemy fleet at night while being supported by the IJN's fast battleships/cruisers, this would have been the kongo class at the time. Then the main battle line would've finished off what remained the day after. Of the few times they actually executed this tactic, although they didnt have battleship support, was the 1st battle of savo island.
The 8 inch 55 caliber gun turrets were protected up to 6 inch shells. There is a 8 inch 55 caliber gun turret from USS Louisville CA 28 in the Nevada Desert used for atomic bomb testing. It was hit by kamikaze and 500 lb bomb on Jan. 5, 1945 in the Pacific. There is a Y-tube of that My dad who passed in 2017 at age 92 was on her from 1943-46 and witnessed (52) sailors buried at sea including Rear Admiral Theodore Chandler.
It's still pretty absurd to put Northampton after Portland in the tech tree
Lots of juicy stuff here! Also that Thomas guy seems pretty neat.
Very interesting stuff, while I’m not a huge fan of naval, it is still an interesting topic. I also like this kinda video where you guys go over the historical aspects of the vehicles in detail
I really liked this new type of contend. The history and the gameplay is really good to see. Keep it uw! :)
Love the history review keep them coming.
BTW forecastle is pronounced “foaksole”. Don’t ask me why.
This is interesting to see you cover, maybe the Clevelands next?
I could certainly do one on US CL's, I've got a book on them to use as a source. Should be fun.
@@flippedstug9517 What book do you have on them? I've got Portland's "Sweet Pea ar War" book and I'm looking to expand my book collection on ships
I like this should be a thing
We Brits pronounce forecastle really differently. Cool vids mate - subbed.
Great content. Keep it up!
can u pls make a guide for the different gameplay tiers of wt naval?
I could try something like that, but it might take a bit to get to.
Look, it's the Portland's (somewhat) sibling ships! Although I really mean somewhat, as the Northamptons only had the same main guns and hull, other than that, the Portland's werr closer to the New Orleans than anything. (Admittedly, I could be wrong because I am not the best with memory of facts). Also, while Portland was seaworthy, she rolled like a bitch, and actually earned the nickname of The Rolling P., where as her sister was notable because she really didn't roll too much, which was odd, because her design was exactly the same as her sister except for two times I can thinm of that woulf majorly change the look and weight of the ship: When she got her SG and SA radar and Portland only recieved her SA radar; and when she recieved repairs after the battle of Okinawa, and, unbeknownst to the crew, modifications to make her better able to carry the parts needed for the Atomic bomb Little Boy, but even that didn't really change her.
If you look at photos from the late war, it's difficult to tell Portland from Chester and Louisville and Indianapolis from Augusta as the surviving Northamptons did away with the tall tripod masts and adopted a superstructure that more resembled the Portland-class. Indianapolis was built with the extended forecastle of the Northampton-class fleet flagship layout found on Houston, Augusta, and Chicago, while Portland had the division flagship layout that Northampton, Chester, and Louisville did.
The New Orleans-class was a clean slate design that had little in common with their predecessors.
Nice video!
Ah yes the nOwOrthampon class
Weren’t the Aoba’s the first IJN treaty heavy cruisers
I'm not an expert on the Japanese navy, though the main source I used for this video listed the Myoko as Japan's first-generation Heavy Cruiser. The Aoba-class is a modified Furutaka-class, which was designed before the Washington Naval Treaty. The Myoko was the first design made from the ground-up with the Washington Naval Treaty passed. I suppose it comes down to whether or not we're considering the first cruisers finished or the first designs finished after the treaty to be the first ships of the treaty, though I believe it goes to the Myoko historically.
WG have Yuro
WT have Stug
Gaijin are greedy idiots. They only added another crippled US heavy cruiser to force players pay real money for getting to future Baltimore-class cruisers quickly.
I'd be fine with it if they had made it relatively cheap, like 170k-220k. Putting it at 320k after a 270k ship that's a direct upgrade is just dumb, however.