Oh, I forgot to say! Following several requests I tried to slow my narration down a little bit in this one. Did you notice, and do you prefer it? Let me know below! Thanks!
You did an amazing job telling the full story. I don't think his punishment fits hiis crimes and I wonder how many unsolved international murders of young women he may have been party to. The one upside is that his name can be pronounced like the word "urine" because he IS that foul....
no problem with your narration.. however, making a 2 part about this pathetic piece of shit's horrible crimes, and NOT mentioning peter r. de vries' name just once is also a crime adrian!!!
As a peruvian I'm glad someone is talking about Stephany, her story is usually overlooked. I remember this case, the local news victim shamed her so badly and her father had to fight really hard to clean her name and get justice, it was outrageous. Also, the way you talk about my country and my city is really accurate, it's a beautiful place with terrible politicians that care more about making money than the people they are supposed to serve.
It was nice to hear about who Stephany was. All I knew was the monster had murdered some other woman and knew nothing about her. So tragic for Stephany and her family that the monster happened upon her.
The fact that he used money from Natalie's parents to go to Peru is sickening. He used that money to pretty much murder somebody else. He deserves much longer in prison!
@@thaneelouise9044Ehhh... As someone who's been to jail and talked to a lot of people in prison, they really just not tolerate pedos and people who fuck with the old. Women murderers aren't seen as THAT bad in there. I'm sure there will be a few people who might test him since he wants to fuck with women, "let's see how you handle a man" kinda thing. But he won't be bothered by everyone like a pedo would. He is a bitch though. Choosing women as his victims because he knows he's a bitch who couldn't win a fight against a man. He's a pussy.
I have a strong feeling he won’t make it 28 years in a Peruvian prison. I hope he doesn’t make it for even 5 years. What an evil disgusting man. He’ll get what he deserves in there.
He's now serving 35 total in Peru for an added charge of cocaine trafficking while in jail. He's doing just fine apparently. He had a huge ring set up and had even expanded it to sending packages outside of the prison. He has already been in jail at Challapalca for 7 years. Unfortunately the two sentences are concurrent, meaning he WILL be out in 2045 because Peru has a limit of 35yrs total unless sentenced to life
No, he should make it till his last day, but not complete his sentence. He should live those years with anxiety and fear for himself, as he inflicted on both those girls.
@@CoffeehouseCrime My best friend Kev, he was dating Stephany's cousin here in the United States when this evil crime happened. I actually met Stephany one time when she came up here from Peru to visit her family. She was a really nice person. It's really sad that she suffered this evil crime. American Intermediary 11/20/23
Adrian I am so glad you highlighted Stephany’s case. Here in the US it is just a footnote to Nathalie’s case. He was just an evil spoiled child, when he gets crossed by a woman he lashes out, and someone dies. At least a Peruvian jail he is getting the punishment he deserves.
Thank you for covering this case separately. That evil man has done so much harm to not just the Holloway family, but Stephany's as well & got away with so much for so long... I despise him. 😡
It’s unfortunate that she isn’t talked about as much as Natalie because if it weren’t for this tragedy we wouldn’t have had confirmation about what happened to Natalie. She almost became a martyr in a way and it’s just crazy that he literally got away with murder and if it weren’t for this, he would be out living amongst society
She's just one of many young women who go off to have sex with a complete stranger and end up paying the price for it. We need to raise our kids to be smarter than this. I'm sure if she were American more people would talk about it, but she's from a country that not many even knows or cares about. I wouldn't call her a martyr... just extremely naive.
@@lizzyyorkThere’s nothing wrong with going out with strangers. Sure there’s a danger, but everything as a level of danger. The statement you made sounds extremely victim blaming
@@lizzyyork Absolutely victim blaming. That should not even be brought up. The poor girl was murdered. The way you worded it is so disrespectful to her name.
@@lizzyyorktell me you're an evangelical American without saying it. 😂 She didn't go with him for sex, but so what if she had? That is consensual sex in that instance. She didn't and got murdered for rebuffing his advances. Exactly the same as the blonde American. Your victim shaming shames you.
Thank you so much for covering both girls. Joran (Urine) is such scum. There’s honestly no words for him. He’s done everything he can to get away with killing Natalee. But serving 28 years in a Peruvian prison will be torture. When Joran confessed recently Natalee’s mother looked at him and said “god you look like hell”
ohh he is doing well over there...little coka traficking...maried..had a kid..didn't you see that vest/jacket he was wearing?? the only problem was..alabama has the death penalty...so..he did the math!! he is not bumb..at all...he is evil though..down to the bone!!
I live in the US. Thank you for covering her story. Here she was barely mentioned. It was all about him killing natalie and a "he killed someone else so we knew it". I didn't even know Stephany's name. Im sure it was said but not enough for me to know. That poor girl. I cant imagine being trapped in a room that small and so close to a door. and her family. Parents should be proud they raised a great person.
Thank you for repeatedly putting the emphasis on the innocent victims in so many of your videos, rather than focusing on the notorious murderers as so many media outlets do.
My best friend Kevin, he was dating Stephany's cousin here in the United States. I actually met Stephany one time when she came up here from Peru to visit her family. She was a really nice person. I still remember when we first heard about this evil crime happening. It was sad. American Intermediary 11/20/23
Both Natalee and Stephany were such wonderful, talented young ladies with promising futures ahead of them. It saddens me deeply that Joran took those futures away from them. God bless them.
i swear every time i see adrian cover a case he knocks it out of the park, not only explaining the case in detail to the best of his ability, but also emphasizing the compassion and remembrance of the victims, great job and im so glad i found and followed this channel for so long
This case was really deserving of a two-parter and I think you did great. As always you treat the victims with so much care and dignity. This being a two-parter also gave room for a lot of legal details and background info. I'm honestly really sad that material for your channel keeps appearing, but you're knocking it out of the park Adrian, especially with this episode!
It is unfortunate that in the end we still have to always rely on the statement of the perpetrator on what actually happened. She may have never looked into his laptop. He may have just killed her because she didn't want to do what he wanted or just because he got off on killing her. Sometimes the autopsy tells a bit of what may have really happened but in the end it will often remain a mystery and we have to remind ourselves that the story of the killers are likely to be completely made up.
I had a similar thought when he was describing the last moments of Natalee's life. With Stephany, it does seem like it was likely reactionary since he was checked in under his name, he didn't hide from cameras, and a tennis racquet was used. But we'll likely never know for sure.
I always wondered if she really did look at his laptop like that doesn’t even make sense really, somehow she just happened to look at his laptop and find stuff about Natalie’s murder? While playing online poker? Idk. He’s always been a liar so I can’t imagine he now would suddenly be honest. I also don’t believe the whole story about Natalie either he “finally told.”
Honestly I was thinking he was probably low on cash (I'm guessing he blew through the extortion money on the casino) and by coincidence he met this woman and chose to rob her but I believe the robbery went wrong.
Actually hee name & fate are at least known. I'm left wondering if he hasn't murdered other young women, who haven't had families rich enough to push for answers.
The gruesomeness of this story aside, I discovered Adrian in March 2020 (start of the covid pandemic) and it’s been an amazing pleasure to see Adrian and his channel grow so much. Thank you and please keep them coming, you have fans in the 🇵🇭!
When you first posted NH's story, I was surprised. In the US, it has been told a million times, including movies and documentaries. You would think she was the only young lady ever killed. The fact that she was blond and pretty gave here coverage that no other victims receives. What happened to her is horrific, but I wish other murdered people got even 1/1000th the coverage she got. Thank you for covering Stephanie's story, as it so rarely has been discussed. The extremely scant coverage of Stephanie's case made her out to be some party animal, whereas NH was shown as the opposite, though she was drinking like crazy on that fateful trip. Both of these young ladies deserved to live long and happy lives.
When Natalie's case was covered most people hated Joran with passion.🙄 It was all over the news. I love that you covered a case from the Netherlands. Very close to home. RIP TO both ladies 🕊🕊🕊
Thank you thank you thank you soooo much for covering this case, it's overlooked due to the notoriety of Natalie Holloway's murder. Also, I appreciate you having such nice things about my country❤ true that about corruption being a deadly cancer in our country.
Doing a two-parter was a great idea. Both of these girls deserve the time to have their story told. Great job! Love your channel. I hope mine grows as yours did! 🙂
Thank you for sharing Stephanie's story. It was always overshadowed by Natalie's and is so sad and heartbreaking for her family. You show such compassion for the victims and their families, and we love you for that. I hope both families are healing from their immeasurable losses.
It seems that he is receiving extra punishment for his transgressions outside of the court. If he isn't remorseful yet (he clearly wasn't before), we can only hope that the beating(s) will eventually knock some empathy into him. On a lighter note, congrats on a successful completion of the 2-part video. Sometimes the story takes more time to cover, and both women deserve to be recognized for their own individuality, not for being murdered by the same individual. This is one of many reasons why I love this channel. Wishing you the best, and looking forward to the next videos.
He knows he is likely going to die in prison. This is his life now. No more being spoilt or living the high life. No more tennis. I'd say he has huge regrets and remorse, although not for his victims or their poor families.
Someone in the comments said he’s actually doing well in prison. He seems like the type that would thrive in prison honestly. A lifelong scoundrel. Oh and he has a wife a daughter and supposedly a girlfriend. I find it awful and sickly karmic he has a daughter seeing as how he is a ki11er of women. What crazy lady has a baby with a ki11er. Oh and the girlfriend helped smuggle dope into prison for him. So not only was he banging the first chic in the prison he was able to land a girlfriend and have her become a smuggler for him. I mean what the fck.
I love that you highlight both high profile cases and cases that are never talked about anywhere else. Your respectful focus on the victims rather than the perpetrators is so very much appreciated. I’d love to see something on my childhood friend’s sister’s murder- Julie Penrod Guida, murdered in 1986 when her sister and I were only 9. Julie was a newlywed on a business trip as a mechanical engineer in Tennessee, out for a morning jog. Her killer, a fugitive from jail, had his death sentence eventually overturned before Julie’s parents’ own natural deaths. He, and Vandersloot, definitely never should have been able to have been free to perpetuate their later crimes. It’s maddening when criminals slip through the system for different reasons.
OMG, so not only did he kill Natalee Holloway, but also Stephany Flores? What a sick person, I can't believe it. Also great job Adrian, as always. Love your videos! Keep up with your amazing work!
His complete lack of control when he's turned down or p1ssed of makes me wonder if he's hurt or even k1lled other women and no one has made the connection.
The killer's first mistake was murdering Natalie Holloway-but then the bastard got too cocky and made an even BIGGER mistake when he chose his next victim-who happened to be the daughter of a very high-profile man. The scariest part is, had he not murdered Stephanie, chances are that he wouldn't have brought even more heat on him than he already had.
@@andrew285 Might want to reread my comment: "HAD HE NOT MURDERED" was literally the first sentence before the supposed fuckup. You can't exactly attract any more attention if you try to keep a low profile, so that's why I said what I did.
He's my favorite True Crime RUclipsr. He keeps it so respectful and doesn't go into sensationalized horrific gore/detail like some of the other girls do. He really cares about the victims and families he knows are impacted by covering these stories.
Can’t stand the girls that do makeup while talking about a murder. Oh look at this lipstick I just got it’s amazing! Oh and the toddler was offed by her parents OMG I’m like what is happening. Who thinks this is ok. A sponsorship before or after the content is fine if it’s separated from the actual victims story. But to have it intermingled within the story is just gross.
As a Peruvian, thank you so much for covering this case ❤ I hope you do more cases like this in the future! The Ciro case was very contriversial and i recommend it very much!
Thank you for sharing Stephanie's story it's a crying shame that she lost her life because of this monster. I pray that Stephanie's family find peace knowing her killer was brought to justice
I love how much your channel has grown in such a short period, truly excellent! I've watched almost every video, and not disliked one, absolutely stellar story telling! Thanks for all your hard work!
As an Alabama native I will never forget this case and how much coverage it got. About your narration, I have always enjoyed it, I have never thought it was too fast.
Just for the record: I find it curious, how murderers visually change, when they're either about to be convicted or already are. Like, drastically. You can cleary notice it happen on the famous serial killers, too. It's like, all the evil they were hiding before comes into the light, as they don't have to keep it within anymore. Good job Adrian, as always. ^^
that's because they've given into the evil temptation of demons, and they liked it. So, the feeling of invincibility takes over and they become more depraved in thoughts and actions until they are dead or caught.
@@It-is-me...Melsie Sorry, but the spiritual battle around us is REAL. Morality comes from God, i.e. the 10 commandments. The fallen angels (demons) are in war with God, so they pervert God's law with the 7 deadly sins. It's up to us individually to choose our desired path.
@@theoptimist7510 Errr, no, that's simply not true. If you think you need some sky daddy to ensure you do the right think then I can confidently say I am already are better and more ethical person than you. Ghosties are not real.
It might be that Joran won't survive to be deported back to America. If he's been attacked already, it doesn't look good for his chances. Natalee and Stephany were two beautiful and sweet natured young women who had the misfortune to run into a psychopath. It's a shame that there's no flashing sign on a psychopath's forehead to warn people. I wonder what happened to make Stephany google his name. Something did.
Awesome job as always! As for the sentence, 48 years may not sound like much, but if he has to actually serve it and manage to survive both prisons. He'll be old and helpless by the time he gets out. Presuming he lives that long.
thank you so much for what you do ! youre one of the only true crime youtubers that i know who focuses everything on the victim and doesnt humanize the perpetrator more than they have to. youre my favorite true crime youtuber, and i always get super excited when you upload ! though it seems youve been uploading more lately ? i may be wrong, but if you are, please dont burn yourself out. be sure to take time for yourself. love from texas ! ☕️🐱
Thanks for covering Stephany’s story separately, Adrian. She deserves to be remembered. I hope her family has found some peace since Joran was imprisoned.
It's so horrible that Stephanie met the same fate of Natalee Holloway and it's also sad that in order to seek justice for Natalee to be avenged, another girl had to die in Joran's hands. Because of how much of a high profile case this was, may I suggest you cover another high-profile case, Adrian, as in the insane story of the Menendez brothers?
The best thing about your channel, besides the obvious production and research components, is the fact that you have have perfected consistent and genuine gaze with camera, during narration. Well done Adrian. On every level, your skills and knowledge are coming through. All those years have paid off c Well done Son 👏👏👏☺️
I’m not normally this quick getting to a video after you’ve uploaded - but just wanted to say massive thanks and congrats Adrian. Been following this channel for agggesss, always loved the way you set the scene and focused on the victims over the d*ckheads that kill them. Looking forward to getting some Classified for Xmas. Also you’ve inspired me to step up my flannel shirt game. Have a great day
Incredible how Anita knew something was off about his own son. Imagine giving birth to a murderer, its such a sad feeling. You might even feel guity. My heart goes to her as it does to the families of those murdered of course.
@@HeatherHolt Doesnt have to be always on the parents fault. Its a bit narrowminded. His 2 other male brothers grew to be nice behaving adults. She even condemned her own son's actions saying he was a megalomaniac and narcicistic. Its not always how someone is raised Sometimes its not just the parents, theres also the friends, school etc all can shape someone, but sometimes is just your brain that is that way. No matter how you educate a psicopath, he can go unexpected ways like murder in this case. Its just putting even more guilt on the parents shoulders. Many people that had horrible households grow up to be wonderful people and viceversa.
It took another beautiful woman to die for that monster to get sentenced. Unreal. I'm a new subscriber and I'm so delighted to see a documentary for the beautiful Stephanie Flores. I never forgot Stephanie and Natalie Holloway. Rip luvs 🌹🌺💖💖 It enrages me he had gotten married had a child IN PRISON!! I understand some states allow that but the victims aren't getting married or having children....living life. So sad. 😢 Thank you Adrian for telling Stephanie's story with great insight and respect.❤ God bless 👑🙏🕊🩵🩵🩵
In answer to your question, yes, I think that this being a two-part story was very appropriate and very well narrated. It answers questions of a past crime without requiring a follow-up video, plus it tells a completely separate tale of the fate of another victim. I feel it worked quite well. Best wishes to You and Nero for the upcoming holidays, and I look forward to future content. On the audio speed, I honestly didn’t really notice.
its so horrible what happened to the victims :( its sick to know these kind of people are out there :( i wonder if theres any more glasgow cases (where i live) also i love your style in shirts i wear those types of shirts all the time i love you adrian (sorry if i didnt spell your name properly) there was a very old case that eleanor neale covered called the house of blood murders that took place in glasgow which scared the heck out of me but all cases are scary and heart breaking i hope both girls rest in peace and their family are okay and im so sorry for their loss
The best part of your videos are the tributes you pay to the poor people that suffered these horrible acts. You keep doing a fantastic job of presenting the facts while respecting and remembering those tragically no longer with us.
Hi Adrian, this is why I love your channel. The love and respect you show for victims is heartwarming. I knew he had murdered someone in Peru and was glad to know more about this sweet gal. Blessings from Carson City, Nevada 😇
If these so called sweet women didn't go out drinking and picking up strange men and going off with them, they'd still be alive. They didn't deserve to be murdered but do bear responsibility for what happened to them. Parents, teach your daughters well!!!
@@shirmeymckamey9386 Absolutely agree… It’s a very dangerous world and (especially) women need to be extra careful … I’m sober now, but when I was young, I would do the same thing and I still don’t know why I got to survive and so many didn’t 😳🤷🏻♀️🥺♥️
@@PetloverTN It's such a hook up society now. All the Plenty of Fish kind of sites. Ok if you go to a public place for a coffee or a walk, but no, it's off to the club and home to have sex. What could possibly go wrong???
@@shirmeymckamey9386yeh that’s right. What’s your motto again? Live like trash, die like trash? Why do you feel the need to come in the comment section and say hateful things? Does it make you feel big and better than everyone else? You better hope you never lose someone in the worst possible of ways. Why don’t you try giving yourself some advice and learn some compassion instead of pointing fingers at dead girls.
@@shirmeymckamey9386do you have suggestions for all the poor women who are attacked and murdered by such psychos who have broken into their homes or stalked them as they walked home from work or even while they were at work or University? Unfortunately we are also aware that many women are killed by the person they are in a relationship with.
I think a two parter is ideal for cases with multiple victims like this one for all the reasons you stated. I also appreciate getting two videos so close together
I liked the fact that you did this as a 2 part story cause sometimes their is more to the story that is indirect and needs a separate video to explain this so if ever you need to do this again, that would be really cool. Thanks so much for your efforts in these stories Adrian, your efforts are greatly appreciated.
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have been enjoying your videos. You're so thoughtful for the victims and thank you for giving them a voice. I recently heard of two cases, one international and one local to me, that I wanted to know if you heard about. Have you heard of the Paria Fuel Diving Disaster? It happened last February 2022 in the Trinidad and Tobago area and four men (one was able to escape) were callously left to die by the Paria Fuel Trading Company after a tragic accident happened where they were sucked into a pipe and trapped alive. The local story is about the death Mei Haskell (and presumably her parents) and her murderous husband who tried to have day laborers in Los Angeles, CA remove her body in bags. He tried pass her off initially as rocks and then as Halloween decorations after the men came back and did not want to be a part of it. Then they went to report the incident to CHP who said to go to LAPD. Then LAPD said to go outside and call 911!
one of your most consistent fan, lover of all things true crime and coffee all the way from South Africa! ❤❤ I love how you present victims with such respect and compassion
Thanks for putting this video out so quickly. So many outlets overlook this woman's story and focus primarily on Natalee Holloway. Both were young women whose stories should be told and remembered.
Terrible how this monster said both Natalee and Stephanie struck him which was the reason he attacked both of them.. Yeah right he's a pos ..RIP Natalee and Stephanie
Adrian I love your channel impeccable manners and charm and factual presentations some content providers produce true crime content but they’re so preachy and virtue signal disgusting. You are always perfectly balanced and sensible .
Thanks a lot, those 2 episodes were great. I was living in Peru when this happened and got hooked on this crazy story and the Nathaly still mysterious case at that time. I was waiting for you to do something on that. Keep up the good stuff.
Wow, I subbed a long time ago and just noticed that you are at 1.87M! Bravo Adrian! You always do the tragic victims stories with such respect. Loved the two part and the speed of your narration although I never had a problem listening to you before. Keep up the great work.
Oh, I forgot to say! Following several requests I tried to slow my narration down a little bit in this one. Did you notice, and do you prefer it? Let me know below! Thanks!
You did an amazing job telling the full story. I don't think his punishment fits hiis crimes and I wonder how many unsolved international murders of young women he may have been party to. The one upside is that his name can be pronounced like the word "urine" because he IS that foul....
I think your talking pace normally is fine
I thought I was just tired and imagining it , but overall I prefer the the slower narration.
Ok, thought I was having a stroke.
Still sounds great tho.
This jerk needs life in prison, btw.
no problem with your narration.. however, making a 2 part about this pathetic piece of shit's horrible crimes, and NOT mentioning peter r. de vries' name just once is also a crime adrian!!!
As a peruvian I'm glad someone is talking about Stephany, her story is usually overlooked.
I remember this case, the local news victim shamed her so badly and her father had to fight really hard to clean her name and get justice, it was outrageous.
Also, the way you talk about my country and my city is really accurate, it's a beautiful place with terrible politicians that care more about making money than the people they are supposed to serve.
Sadly, that's the way all governments are, around the world. True evil lives on, in Government jobs.
@@Julia-uh4li
I was just going to say the same thing 👍
Even here in the comments people victim blame/shame. So sick of it. Van Der Sloot was a monster. No one else is to blame for what he did.
America has become the very same way.
It was nice to hear about who Stephany was. All I knew was the monster had murdered some other woman and knew nothing about her.
So tragic for Stephany and her family that the monster happened upon her.
The fact that he used money from Natalie's parents to go to Peru is sickening. He used that money to pretty much murder somebody else. He deserves much longer in prison!
I completely agree!! He deserves 2 life sentences at the very least.
@@reneefletcher1646he’s probably getting his rubber band stretched by other inmates…if you catch my drift.
I’m pretty sure someone is going to take care of him every single day inside the prison and make his life miserable until he finish his sentence
Is Natalie the first victim, or what? I haven't finished the vid yet
@@thaneelouise9044Ehhh... As someone who's been to jail and talked to a lot of people in prison, they really just not tolerate pedos and people who fuck with the old. Women murderers aren't seen as THAT bad in there. I'm sure there will be a few people who might test him since he wants to fuck with women, "let's see how you handle a man" kinda thing. But he won't be bothered by everyone like a pedo would.
He is a bitch though. Choosing women as his victims because he knows he's a bitch who couldn't win a fight against a man. He's a pussy.
That wretched creature extorting the bereaved parents for cash for corpse is a whole other level of despicable. Heart goes out to the victims families
And the worst part is he didn't even tell the truth. He took their money and continued to lie.
A corpse which he didn't even have because he had dumped her into the sea.
And you KNOW he has other victims!
I have a strong feeling he won’t make it 28 years in a Peruvian prison. I hope he doesn’t make it for even 5 years. What an evil disgusting man. He’ll get what he deserves in there.
I hope, he will make 27.5 years.
He's now serving 35 total in Peru for an added charge of cocaine trafficking while in jail. He's doing just fine apparently. He had a huge ring set up and had even expanded it to sending packages outside of the prison. He has already been in jail at Challapalca for 7 years.
Unfortunately the two sentences are concurrent, meaning he WILL be out in 2045 because Peru has a limit of 35yrs total unless sentenced to life
@@somethinginthenothingI’ve also read he is treated quite well there, got married, had a baby & now has a gf
@@somethinginthenothingHe will be extradited to the U.S. to serve out his sentence for Natalie.
No, he should make it till his last day, but not complete his sentence. He should live those years with anxiety and fear for himself, as he inflicted on both those girls.
That photo of him holding that belt that's wrapped around that younger boys neck says it all you need to know what kind of person he is.
Looks like a dog collar in a "possibly innocent" cos-play type thing, Halloween party maybe.
It's crazy how you can never know how evil someone can be
Coffee on the house! First comment!
I learn from these videos.
yes you can....and usually every single time...why does it seem otherwise?
because people WANT SOMETHING so are fooled
@@CoffeehouseCrime My best friend Kev, he was dating Stephany's cousin here in the United States when this evil crime happened. I actually met Stephany one time when she came up here from Peru to visit her family. She was a really nice person.
It's really sad that she suffered this evil crime.
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You look fantastic Adrian!
Adrian I am so glad you highlighted Stephany’s case. Here in the US it is just a footnote to Nathalie’s case. He was just an evil spoiled child, when he gets crossed by a woman he lashes out, and someone dies. At least a Peruvian jail he is getting the punishment he deserves.
He is living it up in prison. How sad this murder is a mere footnote to people in the US.
Gotta love the range of crimes and stories he covers from all over the world. Thanks man
Agreed.
I disagree with the Peruvian courts showing leniency because a person is under the influence at the time they committed the crime.
Probably only applies to wealthy crims, like usual.
Thank you for covering this case separately. That evil man has done so much harm to not just the Holloway family, but Stephany's as well & got away with so much for so long... I despise him. 😡
Agreed
I'm so glad you did this as a two part series. It was more respectful to each victim. I really enjoy your work Adrian.
It’s unfortunate that she isn’t talked about as much as Natalie because if it weren’t for this tragedy we wouldn’t have had confirmation about what happened to Natalie. She almost became a martyr in a way and it’s just crazy that he literally got away with murder and if it weren’t for this, he would be out living amongst society
She's just one of many young women who go off to have sex with a complete stranger and end up paying the price for it. We need to raise our kids to be smarter than this. I'm sure if she were American more people would talk about it, but she's from a country that not many even knows or cares about. I wouldn't call her a martyr... just extremely naive.
@@lizzyyorkThere’s nothing wrong with going out with strangers. Sure there’s a danger, but everything as a level of danger. The statement you made sounds extremely victim blaming
Very good post
@@lizzyyork Absolutely victim blaming. That should not even be brought up. The poor girl was murdered. The way you worded it is so disrespectful to her name.
@@lizzyyorktell me you're an evangelical American without saying it. 😂
She didn't go with him for sex, but so what if she had? That is consensual sex in that instance.
She didn't and got murdered for rebuffing his advances. Exactly the same as the blonde American.
Your victim shaming shames you.
Thank you so much for covering both girls. Joran (Urine) is such scum. There’s honestly no words for him. He’s done everything he can to get away with killing Natalee. But serving 28 years in a Peruvian prison will be torture. When Joran confessed recently Natalee’s mother looked at him and said “god you look like hell”
😅😂 That is my thoughts about his name...😂😅
ohh he is doing well over there...little coka traficking...maried..had a kid..didn't you see that vest/jacket he was wearing?? the only problem was..alabama has the death penalty...so..he did the math!!
he is not bumb..at all...he is evil though..down to the bone!!
@@tessaducek5601 Same, I didn't notice it at first... seems like he's aiming better at the end..........🤣
@@Ron-d2s 🤭
All we ever hear is she was found in his room. I always wanted to know more about Stephany. I'm glad you've given her a face.
I live in the US. Thank you for covering her story. Here she was barely mentioned. It was all about him killing natalie and a "he killed someone else so we knew it". I didn't even know Stephany's name. Im sure it was said but not enough for me to know. That poor girl. I cant imagine being trapped in a room that small and so close to a door. and her family. Parents should be proud they raised a great person.
Thank you for repeatedly putting the emphasis on the innocent victims in so many of your videos, rather than focusing on the notorious murderers as so many media outlets do.
But i want to focus on the murderer. I want to know what could'of possible caused or motavated him to kill?
Glad you covered Stephany’s story. She needed recognition. She’s been barely acknowledged for too long.
My best friend Kevin, he was dating Stephany's cousin here in the United States. I actually met
Stephany one time when she came up here from Peru to visit her family. She was a really nice person.
I still remember when we first heard about this evil crime happening. It was sad.
American Intermediary 11/20/23
Both Natalee and Stephany were such wonderful, talented young ladies with promising futures ahead of them. It saddens me deeply that Joran took those futures away from them. God bless them.
How would you know ?
@@shadymccoy444 Exactly.
I think he has way more bodies than just these 2. Super scary.
I think you're right. No way there aren't more victims.
@@JKyallVan Der Sloot is a fuckin' monster who doesn't deserve to live while other women didn't get a chance at living.
Definitely.
i swear every time i see adrian cover a case he knocks it out of the park, not only explaining the case in detail to the best of his ability, but also emphasizing the compassion and remembrance of the victims, great job and im so glad i found and followed this channel for so long
This case was really deserving of a two-parter and I think you did great. As always you treat the victims with so much care and dignity. This being a two-parter also gave room for a lot of legal details and background info. I'm honestly really sad that material for your channel keeps appearing, but you're knocking it out of the park Adrian, especially with this episode!
Glad you are covering the case of Stefani..may she rest in peace 🕊️
It is unfortunate that in the end we still have to always rely on the statement of the perpetrator on what actually happened. She may have never looked into his laptop. He may have just killed her because she didn't want to do what he wanted or just because he got off on killing her. Sometimes the autopsy tells a bit of what may have really happened but in the end it will often remain a mystery and we have to remind ourselves that the story of the killers are likely to be completely made up.
I had a similar thought when he was describing the last moments of Natalee's life. With Stephany, it does seem like it was likely reactionary since he was checked in under his name, he didn't hide from cameras, and a tennis racquet was used. But we'll likely never know for sure.
I always wondered if she really did look at his laptop like that doesn’t even make sense really, somehow she just happened to look at his laptop and find stuff about Natalie’s murder? While playing online poker?
Idk. He’s always been a liar so I can’t imagine he now would suddenly be honest. I also don’t believe the whole story about Natalie either he “finally told.”
Or maybe computer forensic investigators saw what was looked up in the hours prior to her death.... DERRRRRRRR
Honestly I was thinking he was probably low on cash (I'm guessing he blew through the extortion money on the casino) and by coincidence he met this woman and chose to rob her but I believe the robbery went wrong.
Yeah, the creep lies through his teeth all the time. Can't trust a word he says.
I think very respectful to have covered both their tragic stories connected yet separately.
Oh I was hoping you’d do a video on this case! I feel like this poor girl has been forgotten in light of everything.
Actually hee name & fate are at least known. I'm left wondering if he hasn't murdered other young women, who haven't had families rich enough to push for answers.
@@brandyjean7015answer is likely yes
@@brandyjean7015I bet there are other victims
She was a easy h*e. Took him like 2 hours to pull tail lol
@@shadymccoy444that is a disgusting comment to make. I pray you don’t experience loss of a loved one like this…
My name is Stephanie and my birthday is July 22 1988😮. I absolutely listened to this case a little differently
The gruesomeness of this story aside, I discovered Adrian in March 2020 (start of the covid pandemic) and it’s been an amazing pleasure to see Adrian and his channel grow so much. Thank you and please keep them coming, you have fans in the 🇵🇭!
you mean fans in p/rn hub?
@@andrew285
What are you on about?
When you first posted NH's story, I was surprised. In the US, it has been told a million times, including movies and documentaries. You would think she was the only young lady ever killed. The fact that she was blond and pretty gave here coverage that no other victims receives. What happened to her is horrific, but I wish other murdered people got even 1/1000th the coverage she got. Thank you for covering Stephanie's story, as it so rarely has been discussed. The extremely scant coverage of Stephanie's case made her out to be some party animal, whereas NH was shown as the opposite, though she was drinking like crazy on that fateful trip. Both of these young ladies deserved to live long and happy lives.
I've said it before and this video is proof of it! The respect you show the victim is unmatched! Thank you so much for that ❤
Thank you. Always trying my best!
Thank you for doing Stephany Flores Ramirez she is just as important..her family were destroyed because of this monster too..
Omg thank you for covering this case. Hopefully now both Natalee & Stefany can finally rest in peace 😢
R.I.P. Natalie R.I.P. Stephany...Rot in hell Joran.
Agreed
When Natalie's case was covered most people hated Joran with passion.🙄 It was all over the news. I love that you covered a case from the Netherlands. Very close to home. RIP TO both ladies 🕊🕊🕊
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THE NETHERLANDS? YOU WISH. WE ARE ARUBA NOT DUTCH
@@michelrood2966 he is from the Netherlands isn't he 😂🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️ therefor it was on their news as well 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Thank you thank you thank you soooo much for covering this case, it's overlooked due to the notoriety of Natalie Holloway's murder. Also, I appreciate you having such nice things about my country❤ true that about corruption being a deadly cancer in our country.
Finally her story gets cover for more than a minute…
Took him about 1 minute to pull that as*
I’ve got a coffee house crime ❤️!!!! Yes that makes me happy and embrace being who I am.
I’m glad you gave each young woman a voice. The truth of the matter is ( if he wasn’t already) well on his way to becoming a serial killer.
Doing a two-parter was a great idea. Both of these girls deserve the time to have their story told. Great job! Love your channel. I hope mine grows as yours did! 🙂
Thank you for sharing Stephanie's story. It was always overshadowed by Natalie's and is so sad and heartbreaking for her family. You show such compassion for the victims and their families, and we love you for that. I hope both families are healing from their immeasurable losses.
Thank you for covering Stephany's story. Not very many people have.
Thanks for covering this, her name and story are usually a footnote in Natalee's case
It seems that he is receiving extra punishment for his transgressions outside of the court. If he isn't remorseful yet (he clearly wasn't before), we can only hope that the beating(s) will eventually knock some empathy into him.
On a lighter note, congrats on a successful completion of the 2-part video. Sometimes the story takes more time to cover, and both women deserve to be recognized for their own individuality, not for being murdered by the same individual. This is one of many reasons why I love this channel. Wishing you the best, and looking forward to the next videos.
He knows he is likely going to die in prison. This is his life now. No more being spoilt or living the high life. No more tennis. I'd say he has huge regrets and remorse, although not for his victims or their poor families.
Someone in the comments said he’s actually doing well in prison. He seems like the type that would thrive in prison honestly. A lifelong scoundrel.
Oh and he has a wife a daughter and supposedly a girlfriend. I find it awful and sickly karmic he has a daughter seeing as how he is a ki11er of women. What crazy lady has a baby with a ki11er. Oh and the girlfriend helped smuggle dope into prison for him. So not only was he banging the first chic in the prison he was able to land a girlfriend and have her become a smuggler for him. I mean what the fck.
I love that you highlight both high profile cases and cases that are never talked about anywhere else. Your respectful focus on the victims rather than the perpetrators is so very much appreciated. I’d love to see something on my childhood friend’s sister’s murder- Julie Penrod Guida, murdered in 1986 when her sister and I were only 9. Julie was a newlywed on a business trip as a mechanical engineer in Tennessee, out for a morning jog. Her killer, a fugitive from jail, had his death sentence eventually overturned before Julie’s parents’ own natural deaths. He, and Vandersloot, definitely never should have been able to have been free to perpetuate their later crimes. It’s maddening when criminals slip through the system for different reasons.
OMG, so not only did he kill Natalee Holloway, but also Stephany Flores? What a sick person, I can't believe it. Also great job Adrian, as always. Love your videos! Keep up with your amazing work!
His complete lack of control when he's turned down or p1ssed of makes me wonder if he's hurt or even k1lled other women and no one has made the connection.
@@It-is-me...MelsieI totally believe he’s involved in other murders 😡
Do you live under a rock ?
@@PetloverTN Okay professor
@@michelrood2966 😏😂
I am so happy to have found your channel. I love crime stories and your narration is calming and you’re respectful of the victims.
The killer's first mistake was murdering Natalie Holloway-but then the bastard got too cocky and made an even BIGGER mistake when he chose his next victim-who happened to be the daughter of a very high-profile man.
The scariest part is, had he not murdered Stephanie, chances are that he wouldn't have brought even more heat on him than he already had.
chances are that he WOULD have brought even more heat and not ''wouldn't''...
@@andrew285 Might want to reread my comment: "HAD HE NOT MURDERED" was literally the first sentence before the supposed fuckup. You can't exactly attract any more attention if you try to keep a low profile, so that's why I said what I did.
HE EXTORTED NATALIES MOTHER FOR 25K..HE WAS A WANTED MAN
@@monst3rslay3r2 Nope. You fukked up .Period.
Wow, you are almost at 2m in viewership......great job, you deserve it!! Thanks for all you do and the respect you show your victims and families.
He's my favorite True Crime RUclipsr. He keeps it so respectful and doesn't go into sensationalized horrific gore/detail like some of the other girls do. He really cares about the victims and families he knows are impacted by covering these stories.
Can’t stand the girls that do makeup while talking about a murder. Oh look at this lipstick I just got it’s amazing! Oh and the toddler was offed by her parents OMG
I’m like what is happening. Who thinks this is ok. A sponsorship before or after the content is fine if it’s separated from the actual victims story. But to have it intermingled within the story is just gross.
Loved the 2 part series, engaging and interesting to say the very least
As a Peruvian, thank you so much for covering this case ❤ I hope you do more cases like this in the future! The Ciro case was very contriversial and i recommend it very much!
at 11:43 a fly flies past your mic. With a headset on I heard the buzz and thought I was being attacked by a mosquito xD
Thank you for sharing Stephanie's story it's a crying shame that she lost her life because of this monster. I pray that Stephanie's family find peace knowing her killer was brought to justice
I love how much your channel has grown in such a short period, truly excellent! I've watched almost every video, and not disliked one, absolutely stellar story telling! Thanks for all your hard work!
This story gave me chills and made my heart sink.
rest in peace Stephanie.
You have singlehandedly taken away my interest in bloated Netflix murder docs. Keep up the good work man!
Best compliment ever! Thank you!
As an Alabama native I will never forget this case and how much coverage it got. About your narration, I have always enjoyed it, I have never thought it was too fast.
I'm thankful Natalie's family has some sort of closure. But as a mother, who's son was murdered. No amount of closure takes the pain away.
Oh my god. I’m so sorry. I cannot imagine what you’ve been through.
Words can not express how sorry I am for your loss. Sending you all the hugs ❤️🩹
Am so sorry about your son...as a mum I cannot imagine the amount of heart break you feel...sending love to you ❤❤
I love your channel. You're videos are incredibly professional and you are a fantastic narrator!!! Thank you for all you do 💝
Just for the record: I find it curious, how murderers visually change, when they're either about to be convicted or already are. Like, drastically. You can cleary notice it happen on the famous serial killers, too. It's like, all the evil they were hiding before comes into the light, as they don't have to keep it within anymore.
Good job Adrian, as always. ^^
Their true face has been exposed .
that's because they've given into the evil temptation of demons, and they liked it. So, the feeling of invincibility takes over and they become more depraved in thoughts and actions until they are dead or caught.
@@theoptimist7510 Demon? Good grief, give me break!
@@It-is-me...Melsie Sorry, but the spiritual battle around us is REAL. Morality comes from God, i.e. the 10 commandments. The fallen angels (demons) are in war with God, so they pervert God's law with the 7 deadly sins. It's up to us individually to choose our desired path.
@@theoptimist7510 Errr, no, that's simply not true. If you think you need some sky daddy to ensure you do the right think then I can confidently say I am already are better and more ethical person than you.
Ghosties are not real.
Finally you cover this case. ❤ this was a huge thing here in the netherlands.
It might be that Joran won't survive to be deported back to America. If he's been attacked already, it doesn't look good for his chances. Natalee and Stephany were two beautiful and sweet natured young women who had the misfortune to run into a psychopath. It's a shame that there's no flashing sign on a psychopath's forehead to warn people. I wonder what happened to make Stephany google his name. Something did.
Awesome job as always! As for the sentence, 48 years may not sound like much, but if he has to actually serve it and manage to survive both prisons. He'll be old and helpless by the time he gets out. Presuming he lives that long.
Incredible how many stars had to be aligned for these three people to be fated in one case.
I love how fast you’re pushing out content!! Love every minute of it keep them coming !
thank you so much for what you do ! youre one of the only true crime youtubers that i know who focuses everything on the victim and doesnt humanize the perpetrator more than they have to. youre my favorite true crime youtuber, and i always get super excited when you upload ! though it seems youve been uploading more lately ? i may be wrong, but if you are, please dont burn yourself out. be sure to take time for yourself. love from texas ! ☕️🐱
Thanks for covering Stephany’s story separately, Adrian. She deserves to be remembered. I hope her family has found some peace since Joran was imprisoned.
It's so horrible that Stephanie met the same fate of Natalee Holloway and it's also sad that in order to seek justice for Natalee to be avenged, another girl had to die in Joran's hands.
Because of how much of a high profile case this was, may I suggest you cover another high-profile case, Adrian, as in the insane story of the Menendez brothers?
The best thing about your channel, besides the obvious production and research components, is the fact that you have have perfected consistent and genuine gaze with camera, during narration.
Well done Adrian. On every level, your skills and knowledge are coming through.
All those years have paid off c
Well done Son 👏👏👏☺️
I’m not normally this quick getting to a video after you’ve uploaded - but just wanted to say massive thanks and congrats Adrian. Been following this channel for agggesss, always loved the way you set the scene and focused on the victims over the d*ckheads that kill them.
Looking forward to getting some Classified for Xmas. Also you’ve inspired me to step up my flannel shirt game. Have a great day
Thank you so much!! If you want our best discount yet for classified, check us out over the Black Friday weekend 👀
@@CoffeehouseCrime thank you👀👀😁
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@@tonyelgodferguson32-07
I love listening to your voice!!! And the way you tell the stories is fascinating!
Incredible how Anita knew something was off about his own son. Imagine giving birth to a murderer, its such a sad feeling. You might even feel guity. My heart goes to her as it does to the families of those murdered of course.
Yeah but I’m sure she added to it through how he was raised.
@@HeatherHolt Doesnt have to be always on the parents fault. Its a bit narrowminded. His 2 other male brothers grew to be nice behaving adults. She even condemned her own son's actions saying he was a megalomaniac and narcicistic. Its not always how someone is raised
Sometimes its not just the parents, theres also the friends, school etc all can shape someone, but sometimes is just your brain that is that way. No matter how you educate a psicopath, he can go unexpected ways like murder in this case. Its just putting even more guilt on the parents shoulders. Many people that had horrible households grow up to be wonderful people and viceversa.
It took another beautiful woman to die for that monster to get sentenced. Unreal.
I'm a new subscriber and I'm so delighted to see a documentary for the beautiful Stephanie Flores. I never forgot Stephanie and Natalie Holloway. Rip luvs 🌹🌺💖💖
It enrages me he had gotten married had a child IN PRISON!!
I understand some states allow that but the victims aren't getting married or having children....living life. So sad. 😢
Thank you Adrian for telling Stephanie's story with great insight and respect.❤
God bless 👑🙏🕊🩵🩵🩵
I love how you choose cases no one else is doing.
In answer to your question, yes, I think that this being a two-part story was very appropriate and very well narrated. It answers questions of a past crime without requiring a follow-up video, plus it tells a completely separate tale of the fate of another victim.
I feel it worked quite well. Best wishes to You and Nero for the upcoming holidays, and I look forward to future content.
On the audio speed, I honestly didn’t really notice.
Love you Adrian! Thank you for covering Stephany’s. You always treat the departed with such respect. ❤
loved that you pronounced his name "urine"... very fitting...
I watched your old videos. You improved a lot, the presentation, the production, everything.
Thanks so much! Always trying to improve!
Thanks, Adrian, it was good to get the follow-up on Stephany's case. Well and sensitively presented as always.
its so horrible what happened to the victims :( its sick to know these kind of people are out there :( i wonder if theres any more glasgow cases (where i live) also i love your style in shirts i wear those types of shirts all the time i love you adrian (sorry if i didnt spell your name properly) there was a very old case that eleanor neale covered called the house of blood murders that took place in glasgow which scared the heck out of me but all cases are scary and heart breaking i hope both girls rest in peace and their family are okay and im so sorry for their loss
The best part of your videos are the tributes you pay to the poor people that suffered these horrible acts.
You keep doing a fantastic job of presenting the facts while respecting and remembering those tragically no longer with us.
Thank you so much for telling her story as well. So sad. Love all of your videos!❤
Hi Adrian, this is why I love your channel. The love and respect you show for victims is heartwarming. I knew he had murdered someone in Peru and was glad to know more about this sweet gal. Blessings from Carson City, Nevada 😇
It's so sad to hear stories of all of these sweet women getting slaughtered by these psychos.
If these so called sweet women didn't go out drinking and picking up strange men and going off with them, they'd still be alive. They didn't deserve to be murdered but do bear responsibility for what happened to them. Parents, teach your daughters well!!!
@@shirmeymckamey9386
Absolutely agree… It’s a very dangerous world and (especially) women need to be extra careful …
I’m sober now, but when I was young, I would do the same thing and I still don’t know why I got to survive and so many didn’t 😳🤷🏻♀️🥺♥️
@@PetloverTN It's such a hook up society now. All the Plenty of Fish kind of sites. Ok if you go to a public place for a coffee or a walk, but no, it's off to the club and home to have sex. What could possibly go wrong???
@@shirmeymckamey9386yeh that’s right. What’s your motto again? Live like trash, die like trash? Why do you feel the need to come in the comment section and say hateful things? Does it make you feel big and better than everyone else? You better hope you never lose someone in the worst possible of ways. Why don’t you try giving yourself some advice and learn some compassion instead of pointing fingers at dead girls.
@@shirmeymckamey9386do you have suggestions for all the poor women who are attacked and murdered by such psychos who have broken into their homes or stalked them as they walked home from work or even while they were at work or University? Unfortunately we are also aware that many women are killed by the person they are in a relationship with.
Thank you again for your attention to detail and the victim in such an eloquently done video. Good job on the narration. Its a good tempo. Great job
I think a two parter is ideal for cases with multiple victims like this one for all the reasons you stated. I also appreciate getting two videos so close together
I liked the fact that you did this as a 2 part story cause sometimes their is more to the story that is indirect and needs a separate video to explain this so if ever you need to do this again, that would be really cool. Thanks so much for your efforts in these stories Adrian, your efforts are greatly appreciated.
Love this channel and how you present the cases! Coffee time!
He's so recognizable that I don't see how any young lady wouldn't immediately know that this is a guy that you don't go off with.
And he still found a girl crazy enough to marry him in prison🙄
Exactly, he looks deformed. 🚩
He has a big weird shaped head, you can't mistake him.
I found your channel a few weeks ago and have been enjoying your videos. You're so thoughtful for the victims and thank you for giving them a voice. I recently heard of two cases, one international and one local to me, that I wanted to know if you heard about.
Have you heard of the Paria Fuel Diving Disaster? It happened last February 2022 in the Trinidad and Tobago area and four men (one was able to escape) were callously left to die by the Paria Fuel Trading Company after a tragic accident happened where they were sucked into a pipe and trapped alive.
The local story is about the death Mei Haskell (and presumably her parents) and her murderous husband who tried to have day laborers in Los Angeles, CA remove her body in bags. He tried pass her off initially as rocks and then as Halloween decorations after the men came back and did not want to be a part of it. Then they went to report the incident to CHP who said to go to LAPD. Then LAPD said to go outside and call 911!
I've been watching you channel for a year and i never thought you would cover a case from my country. Thank you
one of your most consistent fan, lover of all things true crime and coffee all the way from South Africa! ❤❤ I love how you present victims with such respect and compassion
Thank you!
“Caffeination and investigation” is an excellent turn of phrase. Amazing you haven’t been using it the whole time!
Thanks for putting this video out so quickly. So many outlets overlook this woman's story and focus primarily on Natalee Holloway. Both were young women whose stories should be told and remembered.
ooh I was waiting for this follow on from the last one! You're the best Adrian.
Terrible how this monster said both Natalee and Stephanie struck him which was the reason he attacked both of them.. Yeah right he's a pos ..RIP Natalee and Stephanie
Adrian I love your channel impeccable manners and charm and factual presentations some content providers produce true crime content but they’re so preachy and virtue signal disgusting. You are always perfectly balanced and sensible .
Love your videos! And your coffee is delicious ❤ thank you for being a voice for the victims!
Thanks a lot, those 2 episodes were great. I was living in Peru when this happened and got hooked on this crazy story and the Nathaly still mysterious case at that time. I was waiting for you to do something on that. Keep up the good stuff.
I'm so glad this monster is finally behind bars. Thank you for covering both cases. As an American I did not know very much about Stephany.
Wow, I subbed a long time ago and just noticed that you are at 1.87M! Bravo Adrian! You always do the tragic victims stories with such respect. Loved the two part and the speed of your narration although I never had a problem listening to you before. Keep up the great work.