I always go by the numbers when tightening heatsinks down but I also only tighten one or two turns and move to the next screw and repeat until all the screws are tight to avoid putting too much pressure in any one area on the top of the CPU or bottom of the heatsink. I also loosen the same way.
exactly! Proceed almost as with head gasket torquening... One of the benefits of that is you need very little thermal compound on the CPU and it spreads evenly without sipping out.
I'll bet the power supply requirement is something in the BIOS that is hard coded regardless of the CPU installed. Those tiny fans pull very small current like 0.12A to 0.5A at 12V would be 1.44-5 Watts. There should be a rating on the fan assembly telling volts and amps eg. 12V @ 0.12A just multiply the two that's watts. volts X amp = watts. My Elitedesk is running a software update right now or I would look. I just ordered a G3 to add to the fleet by the way. It's a 65W barebones for $35 with fan, caddy, sata cable. I ordered an i7-7700 and 16G ram to put in it. I've got SSD's laying around to put in it. I enjoy your videos. It's like stuff I do sometimes. These Tiny little machine's are fun to tinker with at home.
I'm hearing from some commenters that they are able to run everything fine using the 65W vs 90W power supply. I would have experimented more but was concerned I wasn't booting up - word to the wise - don't use your primary machine for tinkering :)
It has been my experience that when you change out higher TDP CPUs with lower watt CPUs the system, although able to run the lower TDP CPU in a higher wattage system, takes some time to READJUST to the new environment. As you discovered, a 35 watt CPU will run in a 65 watt system. You shouldn't have to use the 90 watt PS because the CPU is not drawing above 35 watt. Therefore, you should be able to power a 65 watt system, that is using a 35 watt CPU, with a 65 watt PS that is adequate for a 35 watt system. However, you can also use the 90 watt PS because it can deliver the wattage required for the 35 watt CPU. On the other side of the coin, you cannot run a 35 watt system with a 65 watt CPU!
Do you use a SATA SSD and does the caddy fan stay on? My limited testing seemed to show that it works fine with the 65w power adapter. Good to hear from others.
Great video 😊😊😊 .. I bought one lsst year that said it was a 6500T system , came with a full fat 6600 and a big old power brick. The little hard drive fan seems superfluous really as it doesn't do much for extra cooling . If you take it out the system still works , you just get a bios warning at startup. Still great little pcs for the money if you just want a media player/ browser.
Prodesk G3 i7-7700T with D.I.Y. tower heatsink cooler mod + GTX 1070 GPU via M.2 16x PCIe adapter here, got a few gameplay videos on my channel. Practically non-audible in desktop / CPU -intensive heavy tasks, currently under-volted GPU (about minus 20-30W power draw vs stock) make slight noise when gaming but cant hear it anyways while gaming.
@@handmedowntech The latter one, cut a hole. Took about 2 hours when the pc warranty was void after picking it up from the post office :) img.aijaa.com/b/00307/15219245.jpg
@@handmedowntech The latter one, cut a hole. Took about 2 hours to void the warranty after picking it up from the post office :) Tried to reply a moment ago with a link to picture but seems it was blocked.
What I've found out yesterday was that I'm not able to use 2.5" drive caddy once second nvme slot was populated. Drive caddy is colliding with new PCB. So caddy is out atm and I'm considering using Dremel.. shame as I though no tools will be necessary to use 3 ssds
Now that would be an interesting video - try to get a 3.5 inch SATA drive to run in the case. One of the problems would be power and of course the fact that there is so little space
What's up boss. I have the elitedesk 800 G3 65W mini model with the i5-7500 processor. Up to what maximum processor version would the motherboard support if I wanted to upgrade? Thank you!
I'm assuming you have a G1? Everything I'm seeing only shows the G1 supporting the T series processors. I don't see mention of a 65W version of the G1. Which makes sense it was the first generation and HP learned more for the G2.
I have the 35W G2. I'm thinking about getting a 65W version with an i7 6700 as it has twice as many cores, just worried it's going to be noisy (my 35W G2 is silent most of the time). I run Linux on my little unit - love it.
@@MnemonicCarrier you'll have the same number of cores, just double the threads. I use the 65w 6500 every day for my normal desktop. It is definitely louder than my 35w units but not excessive. I keep it off to the side to minimize the disturbance.
@@handmedowntechAh, okay - thanks for that. Might not be worth doing the "upgrade" then, as I really appreciate the peace and quiet (although the extra threads would be nice). These beautiful units make great Linux machines, but I could really do with some extra horsepower for my personal workloads (i.e. running Android Studio, Android Virtual Devices, compiling a ton of stuff etc...). I've been looking at prices, and I think I might be better off going for one of those "Mini Forums" type mini-PCs (with the Ryzen 7, 8 cores, 16 threads, Radeon RX 680m or 780m iGPU etc...) 🤔
I have Hp prodesk g2 mini with i5-6500t just replaced cpu to I7-6700 works fine at start says fann error press enter. cpu fann is working. I have 90w power supply.
Bonjour, j'ai un processeur de 800 g2 i5-6500 3.4 mhz 65W peut-on le mettre sur un autre PC a la place du 800 G2 i5-6500T 2.7 Mhz 35W, j'ose pas le faire j'ai peur de faire une gaffe, merci
Le i5-6500 a besoin d’une alimentation de 90 W. Vous pouvez mettre le processeur dans le 35 W et utiliser l’alimentation 90 W. Il fera cependant chaud car il nécessite un dissipateur thermique en cuivre. Désolé pour la mauvaise traduction.
@@handmedowntech Merci pour votre réponse si rapide, je vais mettre l'alimentation du 65W qui ne fonctionne plus et son radiateur en cuivre a la place, j'ai mis aussi le couvercle ventilé du boitier 65W sur le boitier 35W ça rentre sans problème , votre traduction est bonne 👍
Bon ça y est, je récapitule j'ai mis sur mon 35W le processeur le radiateur en cuivre le ventilateur HDD le couvercle et l'alimentation du 65W + une carte wifi AX210 Carte WiFi 6 - AX210NGW, une carte HDMI a la place de la carte DP et 2 antennes sur un Windows 11 23H et ça tourne a merveille, encore merci Hand Me Down Tech
I always go by the numbers when tightening heatsinks down but I also only tighten one or two turns and move to the next screw and repeat until all the screws are tight to avoid putting too much pressure in any one area on the top of the CPU or bottom of the heatsink. I also loosen the same way.
old fashioned perhaps but "tighten evenly" is my approach too.
Good advice - I also find I sometimes have to tighten each one a slight bit so they fall into the holes in the MB
exactly! Proceed almost as with head gasket torquening...
One of the benefits of that is you need very little thermal compound on the CPU and it spreads evenly without sipping out.
I'll bet the power supply requirement is something in the BIOS that is hard coded regardless of the CPU installed. Those tiny fans pull very small current like 0.12A to 0.5A at 12V would be 1.44-5 Watts. There should be a rating on the fan assembly telling volts and amps eg. 12V @ 0.12A just multiply the two that's watts. volts X amp = watts. My Elitedesk is running a software update right now or I would look. I just ordered a G3 to add to the fleet by the way. It's a 65W barebones for $35 with fan, caddy, sata cable. I ordered an i7-7700 and 16G ram to put in it. I've got SSD's laying around to put in it. I enjoy your videos. It's like stuff I do sometimes. These Tiny little machine's are fun to tinker with at home.
I'm hearing from some commenters that they are able to run everything fine using the 65W vs 90W power supply. I would have experimented more but was concerned I wasn't booting up - word to the wise - don't use your primary machine for tinkering :)
It has been my experience that when you change out higher TDP CPUs with lower watt CPUs the system, although able to run the lower TDP CPU in a higher wattage system, takes some time to READJUST to the new environment. As you discovered, a 35 watt CPU will run in a 65 watt system. You shouldn't have to use the 90 watt PS because the CPU is not drawing above 35 watt. Therefore, you should be able to power a 65 watt system, that is using a 35 watt CPU, with a 65 watt PS that is adequate for a 35 watt system. However, you can also use the 90 watt PS because it can deliver the wattage required for the 35 watt CPU. On the other side of the coin, you cannot run a 35 watt system with a 65 watt CPU!
It did sort of seem that way going the other way too (when I put everything back the way it was the booting took a couple rounds to come around )
My config is: i5-6500T on a 65W EliteDesk 800 G2 Mini with 65W Power Adapter (from 35W version). Everythig works fine.
Do you use a SATA SSD and does the caddy fan stay on? My limited testing seemed to show that it works fine with the 65w power adapter. Good to hear from others.
Great video 😊😊😊 .. I bought one lsst year that said it was a 6500T system , came with a full fat 6600 and a big old power brick. The little hard drive fan seems superfluous really as it doesn't do much for extra cooling . If you take it out the system still works , you just get a bios warning at startup. Still great little pcs for the money if you just want a media player/ browser.
Those G2s just run and run. I just recently switched to my G3 7th Gen for day to day computer stuff. I got my G2 65w sort of like your experience.
Love these vids.. make me go out and buy more Elitedesks
@@downundergarage6968 thanks. Those units do make it hard to pass up.
Ive been running my g3 800 6500t its a 35w system but i use the 65w power supply no issues so far
Is that with one or two fans?
@@handmedowntech just one fan, above the ram
Prodesk G3 i7-7700T with D.I.Y. tower heatsink cooler mod + GTX 1070 GPU via M.2 16x PCIe adapter here, got a few gameplay videos on my channel. Practically non-audible in desktop / CPU -intensive heavy tasks, currently under-volted GPU (about minus 20-30W power draw vs stock) make slight noise when gaming but cant hear it anyways while gaming.
Pretty cool. Dumb question, I'm assuming you have the cover off or did you have to cut into the case?
@@handmedowntech The latter one, cut a hole. Took about 2 hours when the pc warranty was void after picking it up from the post office :) img.aijaa.com/b/00307/15219245.jpg
@@handmedowntech The latter one, cut a hole. Took about 2 hours to void the warranty after picking it up from the post office :) Tried to reply a moment ago with a link to picture but seems it was blocked.
@@FlukeFIN RUclips doesn't allow links to cut down on Spam. If there is something I can search for to find the site I could try that instead.
@@handmedowntech eGPU forum -> External GPU Builds -> 2017 Prodesk G3
What I've found out yesterday was that I'm not able to use 2.5" drive caddy once second nvme slot was populated. Drive caddy is colliding with new PCB. So caddy is out atm and I'm considering using Dremel.. shame as I though no tools will be necessary to use 3 ssds
What I usually do is use a 2230 for the one just under the caddy. That gives enough room on the G4 and G5
That's probably a 2.5" caddy. Don't think a 3.5 would fit into the case.
@@walkman1269 misspelled 🙂
Now that would be an interesting video - try to get a 3.5 inch SATA drive to run in the case. One of the problems would be power and of course the fact that there is so little space
What's up boss. I have the elitedesk 800 G3 65W mini model with the i5-7500 processor. Up to what maximum processor version would the motherboard support if I wanted to upgrade? Thank you!
Welcome to the channel. You would be able to go up to an i7-7700
Hi Sir, Can we upgrade the Mini PC i5 4590T to a non-T version CORE I5 4590 Processor? Pls explain🙏
I'm assuming you have a G1? Everything I'm seeing only shows the G1 supporting the T series processors. I don't see mention of a 65W version of the G1. Which makes sense it was the first generation and HP learned more for the G2.
I have the 35W G2. I'm thinking about getting a 65W version with an i7 6700 as it has twice as many cores, just worried it's going to be noisy (my 35W G2 is silent most of the time). I run Linux on my little unit - love it.
What processor is in your G2 now? You can also get 4 cores with the i5 6500T
@@handmedowntechI have the i5 6500T. It has 4 cores/4 threads.
@@MnemonicCarrier you'll have the same number of cores, just double the threads. I use the 65w 6500 every day for my normal desktop. It is definitely louder than my 35w units but not excessive. I keep it off to the side to minimize the disturbance.
@@handmedowntechAh, okay - thanks for that. Might not be worth doing the "upgrade" then, as I really appreciate the peace and quiet (although the extra threads would be nice). These beautiful units make great Linux machines, but I could really do with some extra horsepower for my personal workloads (i.e. running Android Studio, Android Virtual Devices, compiling a ton of stuff etc...). I've been looking at prices, and I think I might be better off going for one of those "Mini Forums" type mini-PCs (with the Ryzen 7, 8 cores, 16 threads, Radeon RX 680m or 780m iGPU etc...) 🤔
You could look at the 35w G4 and G5, gives you 6 cores
I put the second fan in my 35w. It runs all the time.
Interesting, so you used a 35w and added the fan. I guess that makes sense since the differences are really related to the heatsink and extra fan.
I can tell you this I don't know how they are doing it but the 35w motherboard and the 65w motherboard are both the same
Very smart design. Keeps cost down to only have one type of mb.
@@handmedowntech agreed I just keep seeing cheap broken ones and fix them
@@stevenbell9589 what do you spend on average for a unit?
@@handmedowntech the last one I got was £20
@@handmedowntech I have 2 now one not working but looking for another to make up one good one
I have Hp prodesk g2 mini with i5-6500t just replaced cpu to I7-6700 works fine at start says fann error press enter. cpu fann is working. I have 90w power supply.
Do you have the caddy with the built in fan? I believe it expects to see that one plugged in.
How's the cpu temperatures on i7-6700 vs i5-6500T?
@@FlukeFIN I'm guessing it runs hot as I had a 6700 in a dell tower and it was hot hot hot with the stock cooler
Bonjour, j'ai un processeur de 800 g2 i5-6500 3.4 mhz 65W peut-on le mettre sur un autre PC a la place du 800 G2 i5-6500T 2.7 Mhz 35W, j'ose pas le faire j'ai peur de faire une gaffe, merci
Le i5-6500 a besoin d’une alimentation de 90 W. Vous pouvez mettre le processeur dans le 35 W et utiliser l’alimentation 90 W. Il fera cependant chaud car il nécessite un dissipateur thermique en cuivre. Désolé pour la mauvaise traduction.
@@handmedowntech Merci pour votre réponse si rapide, je vais mettre l'alimentation du 65W qui ne fonctionne plus et son radiateur en cuivre a la place, j'ai mis aussi le couvercle ventilé du boitier 65W sur le boitier 35W ça rentre sans problème , votre traduction est bonne 👍
Bon ça y est, je récapitule j'ai mis sur mon 35W le processeur le radiateur en cuivre le ventilateur HDD le couvercle et l'alimentation du 65W + une carte wifi AX210 Carte WiFi 6 - AX210NGW, une carte HDMI a la place de la carte DP et 2 antennes sur un Windows 11 23H et ça tourne a merveille, encore merci Hand Me Down Tech
Da rien!