Finally! This is exactly the video I was looking for. I've been trying to visualize what that tent would feel like inside. I'm deciding between this and the 2 person tent for bikepacking.
Thanks. I’d go with one person for long distance trips where weight matters more. I have two person for shorter trips and car camping. (No videos really show how narrow this tent really is and that was why I made the video) Good luck with your decision.
Great, honest review of a solid tent! A buddy of mine has carried a Copper Spur 2 since thru-hiking the AT in 2017. He actually saved my skin on nights too cold for my hammock. Two of us at 5’10” are able to sleep in it and have zero condensation issues. Hope to see you out there in 2021!
Thanks - its a great tent. I did switch to a Tarptent Notch Li last yr though. I prefer the Dyneema. Check out my review on that if you are thinking of alternatives.
How many stakes did yours have in the bag? Mine came with 7- which BA insists is enough- it clearly needs 10 to pitch properly? BA is the only tent maker I have come across that don’t put sufficient stakes in to pitch correctly. No doubt to keep advertised packweight down?
Sorry; I forgot but think 8 (4 corners, and 4 sides). I only bring 4 for the sides to keep fly out for better ventilation. never stake corners down. I have so many extras I never even looked but agree with you on pack weight
Russell Jolly Thank you! Finally someone else has noticed! I don’t think I would have minded so much if their CS had not insisted that ‘it is designed to be pitched with 7 stakes’....and taken a rather condescending tone when I enquired - sending me links to videos on their website showing other tents being pitched...not in real-time or of the CuSpur HVUL1😡. if you follow their own instructions you are left with a flapping vestibule- obviously BA expect it to be held open with Willpower...or The Force perhaps?
For what it's worth, I do the same as Flinty...4 stakes on the fly (nothing on the corners) even in moderately windy conditions. Two keys: 1) ditched the stock stakes and used bigger Y stakes that hold better, 2) Lengthened the guy lines which results in a much stronger pitch. I carry 4 smaller titanium shepherd hook stakes as well for high winds.
Hey pgreenx, thanks for the review! I’m actually thinking about getting a free standing tent for certain situations and I’ve been looking at this one. Cheers!
I like it a lot for a fully freestanding tent. Think I’d by the tiger wall for more room (and the extra peg requirements though) if I did it again. I like my Tarptent notch Li for longer mileage trips though. Tough to make a decision….
Pause: did the hub on the foot end rub the rainfly too much? What tent would you use these days? How do you like that semi-free-stand design with the three poles & one hub like the Tiger or Hornet? I am full of ?: I have the 1P CS & deciding to keep or not. I liked the short pole bikepack tents too. The three poles made sense too.
I really like the one person copper spur. Never get any condensation, super weatherproof and on hot nights I can roll the fly back and look at the stars. That said if I go on Backpacking these days as I bring my tarptent notch li, which I also did a review on and talk about this exact point. If I had to do it again, I’d still buy the CS because it’s plenty of room for me and I like to be able to pick it up and air out the bottom Before I pack it up or be able to move it if it’s rocks… I hope this helps I’m going to bicycle the great divide mountain bike route this summer and bringing a notch
It is a good tent but mine wet-out in some places after a long heavy rain. People should never pay full retail for this tent as you can usually find it on sale for ~ $280.
I agree fully. I paid less than $300 as I recall and separately and more importantly, I switched to a Dyneema Tarptent Notch Li due to this tent wetting out. On a few rain free nights in the summer this can't be beat though with all the netting for stargazing and ventilation.
You've got the Short Apex pole underneath...It goes on Top...!! Didn't see you place the pole tips in their wee pockets either when you placed the fly over the inner....
I made it over here from your Notch Li video. Another really good review. You've got some nice shelters. And thanks for your answers to the questions I've already asked. Got another one: if weight is a priority, & you could have only one 1p tent for the southern Appalachians, AT (not thru hiking), etc, would it be the Notch Li, or the Tiger Wall 1p (UL1), or something else? The Copper Spur is sweet but a bit heavy for me. Thanks!
I hiked from GA to smokies this yr before COVID and know them pretty well. If it was for shorter weekends I’d go with TW ( more room than notch). If trips longer, then the notch. The main reason is not room- I like dyneema for shedding water after a rainy night. The tent doesn’t get water logged like sylnylon tent and dried out fast(er). Carrying a wet tent for days stinks. It also depends how much time you spend in camp (a larger tent is more enjoyable). There are also a bunch of DYNeema two-man tents you may want to check out like the Z packs duplex or the tarp tent Stratosphire Li for example. Best of both worlds but a lot more money than the TW. Good luck. Again , no tent is perfect !
@@pgreenx Thanks! I was hot on the SS Li a while back but was concerned about the ease of finding a camp site with the large footprint. I'm ok with small. Great feedback - thanks. I've done my share of hiking in that area (esp Chattahoochee Nat'l Forest & the Cohuttas when I lived in GA, & Gregory Bald & other areas in the Smokies. Yeah, the DCF appears to be way superior with water shed. Thanks again!
Not exactly sure on the TW1 or 2. You can check on big Agnes site. What I’m saying is for short trips I’d go with TW2 and long trips the notch LI. For me it’s a dyneema issue more than the size. I hate carrying a soggy wet nylon tent for days. Hope that helps.
It seems like moving around on a thermarest pad inside the tent did not cause any squeaking/balloon type noise when moving around. Can you confirm that is the case? I have the older model and it squeaks terribly, if the new one does not squeak I’d consider it worth the upgrade
I never really hear any of the noises people complain about so I’m probably the wrong person to ask. I’ve owned the old one for a long time too and never had a problem with noise. I heard was the older version squeak when it was new but mine was probably 10 years old so I don’t remember when it was new. Sorry I can’t be more help. Id get a new one if you have the money because it’s easier to blow up and way easier to roll up in the morning
@@pgreenx sorry, I should specify that I meant the new model copper spur tent that you review in the video. That is what I have the older model of. It does not have the 3d mezzanine or the awning door. I have upgraded to the new thermarest pad, I agree that the new valve is a huge improvement from the old one. The new thermarest however does still squeak on the copper spur tent I currently have. I actually ended up testing all of my pads in the tent last night in a few configurations. Putting a closed cell foam pad underneath the thermarest completely silenced the squeaking, so I ordered the “thinlight” pad from gossamer gear to use in the future. It’s only about 3 oz and should solve my problem.
@@Keillan5480 oh. I get it now. The pad moved around some. I do toss and turn though. Didn’t notice any noise though I have the gossamer gear pad too but don’t bring it (weight weenie….) It’s a great tent but I switched to the Tarptent notch. Less weight, double wall and DYNEEMA! If I stayed with a syl nylon tent I’d buy the tiger wall instead of this for extra room. Good luck!
I really like the roomy space and light weight. But I'm a bit concerned about the tent floor which looks quite loose and could flatter. Is it only when the inner tent stands alone? Do stakes make a big difference? Thank you for your great review! Best wishes🌏
It’s a great tent. The floor is fine. Other than to prevent it from blowing away in the wind, you only really need stakes to hold the vestibules open. I think I mentioned it in the review but the tiger wall is a great tent too. CS is totally free standing and went with it in the event I had a rocky area to pitch on. I didn’t need the extra room of the tiger wall. Both great though. Good luck!
@@pgreenx Thank you for sharing your experience! I like to have a tent for tropic climate but to see you with this kind of tent in snowy conditions did really surprise & also impress me. B.A. seems to be a good choice. Enjoy your trips!
@@kalsangdoelma4635 I live in the northeast of United States which is a very humid rainy area especially in summer. This tent works great in that kind of climate
Hi! I have the Tiger Wall UL2 and am considering this tent because it's free standing and you can set it up in the rain with the fly and footprint....but, you think the space is more important?
If I did it again, and bought another double wall tent, I’d probably go with the tw for more space. The stakes you need for the TW are few and it is almost free standing with more space. Hope this helps. It’s still a really great tent and I carried it for almost 1000 miles last yr and always enjoyed it.
Looks great, im thinking of getting one soon. Have you had any issues with rain considering the floor waterproof rating is pretty low? Also the rain fly seems to leave quite a bit of the inner tent exposed at the head end- have you had issues if the rain gets blown diagonally onto that?
No issues although I switched to a dyneema Tarptent because this tent got water logged after a rainy night. Didn’t get wet during the night but a pain to pack up and dry out
@@EarlyMist when I say waterlogged; it kept me dry but the outer side of the material absorbed water and stayed wet and I had to pack up a wet and heavy tent. Didn’t dry out until I had a sunny day. Same for all sylnylon tents. I did switch to a dyneema tent which repels most of the water by shaking it. Dyneema does not absorb water like nylon or sylnylon plus it doesn’t sag overnight
Any of the 4 person Big Agnes Car Camping tents are great (ie dog house, bunk house or big house). Make sure you get one that's not too big or you will dread setting it up
I never brought my pack in the tent. I found it pretty tight and wanted the room for moving around. I know others with this tent that do. I left the pack outside and put anything clean (ie puffy jacket, dry rain jacket, etc) in the pack and only brought in my clothes I wore for the day unless they were wet. I included the sleeping pad so you could see there's plenty of room inside but its far from spacious vs what it looks like from the outside. Hope this helps!
Finally! This is exactly the video I was looking for.
I've been trying to visualize what that tent would feel like inside. I'm deciding between this and the 2 person tent for bikepacking.
Thanks. I’d go with one person for long distance trips where weight matters more. I have two person for shorter trips and car camping.
(No videos really show how narrow this tent really is and that was why I made the video)
Good luck with your decision.
Great, honest review of a solid tent! A buddy of mine has carried a Copper Spur 2 since thru-hiking the AT in 2017. He actually saved my skin on nights too cold for my hammock. Two of us at 5’10” are able to sleep in it and have zero condensation issues. Hope to see you out there in 2021!
Thanks - its a great tent. I did switch to a Tarptent Notch Li last yr though. I prefer the Dyneema. Check out my review on that if you are thinking of alternatives.
Is is the same tent since 2017? If that’s the case, then that’s awesome! Seems like these UL tents don’t have a huge longevity
Sorry for late reply. No the tent was updated in 2020
You answered all of my questions, thank you for this great review
Glad you liked it!
How many stakes did yours have in the bag? Mine came with 7- which BA insists is enough- it clearly needs 10 to pitch properly? BA is the only tent maker I have come across that don’t put sufficient stakes in to pitch correctly. No doubt to keep advertised packweight down?
Sorry; I forgot but think 8 (4 corners, and 4 sides). I only bring 4 for the sides to keep fly out for better ventilation. never stake corners down. I have so many extras I never even looked but agree with you on pack weight
That’s one more than me then😂 they insist 7 is enough- I beg to disagree....I would peg corners if windy? Those tents would make excellent kites!
I was short a few stakes as well, though I think this is becoming common practice among tentmakers in order to keep the weight down, as you noted.
Russell Jolly Thank you! Finally someone else has noticed! I don’t think I would have minded so much if their CS had not insisted that ‘it is designed to be pitched with 7 stakes’....and taken a rather condescending tone when I enquired - sending me links to videos on their website showing other tents being pitched...not in real-time or of the CuSpur HVUL1😡. if you follow their own instructions you are left with a flapping vestibule- obviously BA expect it to be held open with Willpower...or The Force perhaps?
For what it's worth, I do the same as Flinty...4 stakes on the fly (nothing on the corners) even in moderately windy conditions. Two keys: 1) ditched the stock stakes and used bigger Y stakes that hold better, 2) Lengthened the guy lines which results in a much stronger pitch. I carry 4 smaller titanium shepherd hook stakes as well for high winds.
Hey pgreenx, thanks for the review! I’m actually thinking about getting a free standing tent for certain situations and I’ve been looking at this one. Cheers!
I like it a lot for a fully freestanding tent. Think I’d by the tiger wall for more room (and the extra peg requirements though) if I did it again. I like my Tarptent notch Li for longer mileage trips though. Tough to make a decision….
Pause: did the hub on the foot end rub the rainfly too much?
What tent would you use these days?
How do you like that semi-free-stand design with the three poles & one hub like the Tiger or Hornet?
I am full of ?: I have the 1P CS & deciding to keep or not. I liked the short pole bikepack tents too. The three poles made sense too.
I really like the one person copper spur. Never get any condensation, super weatherproof and on hot nights I can roll the fly back and look at the stars.
That said if I go on Backpacking these days as I bring my tarptent notch li, which I also did a review on and talk about this exact point.
If I had to do it again, I’d still buy the CS because it’s plenty of room for me and I like to be able to pick it up and air out the bottom Before I pack it up or be able to move it if it’s rocks… I hope this helps
I’m going to bicycle the great divide mountain bike route this summer and bringing a notch
@@pgreenx awesome! Thx
It is a good tent but mine wet-out in some places after a long heavy rain. People should never pay full retail for this tent as you can usually find it on sale for ~ $280.
I agree fully. I paid less than $300 as I recall and separately and more importantly, I switched to a Dyneema Tarptent Notch Li due to this tent wetting out.
On a few rain free nights in the summer this can't be beat though with all the netting for stargazing and ventilation.
You've got the Short Apex pole underneath...It goes on Top...!! Didn't see you place the pole tips in their wee pockets either when you placed the fly over the inner....
Not sure which one the apex pole is? All the poles are connected. LMK. Thanks for watching!
I made it over here from your Notch Li video. Another really good review. You've got some nice shelters. And thanks for your answers to the questions I've already asked. Got another one: if weight is a priority, & you could have only one 1p tent for the southern Appalachians, AT (not thru hiking), etc, would it be the Notch Li, or the Tiger Wall 1p (UL1), or something else? The Copper Spur is sweet but a bit heavy for me. Thanks!
I hiked from GA to smokies this yr before COVID and know them pretty well. If it was for shorter weekends I’d go with TW ( more room than notch). If trips longer, then the notch. The main reason is not room- I like dyneema for shedding water after a rainy night. The tent doesn’t get water logged like sylnylon tent and dried out fast(er). Carrying a wet tent for days stinks.
It also depends how much time you spend in camp (a larger tent is more enjoyable).
There are also a bunch of DYNeema two-man tents you may want to check out like the Z packs duplex or the tarp tent Stratosphire Li for example. Best of both worlds but a lot more money than the TW. Good luck. Again , no tent is perfect !
@@pgreenx Thanks! I was hot on the SS Li a while back but was concerned about the ease of finding a camp site with the large footprint. I'm ok with small. Great feedback - thanks. I've done my share of hiking in that area (esp Chattahoochee Nat'l Forest & the Cohuttas when I lived in GA, & Gregory Bald & other areas in the Smokies. Yeah, the DCF appears to be way superior with water shed. Thanks again!
Just to confirm, you're saying the Tiger Wall UL1 has more room than the Notch (or are you talking about the UL2)? Thanks
Not exactly sure on the TW1 or 2. You can check on big Agnes site. What I’m saying is for short trips I’d go with TW2 and long trips the notch LI. For me it’s a dyneema issue more than the size. I hate carrying a soggy wet nylon tent for days. Hope that helps.
It seems like moving around on a thermarest pad inside the tent did not cause any squeaking/balloon type noise when moving around. Can you confirm that is the case? I have the older model and it squeaks terribly, if the new one does not squeak I’d consider it worth the upgrade
I never really hear any of the noises people complain about so I’m probably the wrong person to ask. I’ve owned the old one for a long time too and never had a problem with noise. I heard was the older version squeak when it was new but mine was probably 10 years old so I don’t remember when it was new. Sorry I can’t be more help. Id get a new one if you have the money because it’s easier to blow up and way easier to roll up in the morning
@@pgreenx sorry, I should specify that I meant the new model copper spur tent that you review in the video. That is what I have the older model of. It does not have the 3d mezzanine or the awning door. I have upgraded to the new thermarest pad, I agree that the new valve is a huge improvement from the old one. The new thermarest however does still squeak on the copper spur tent I currently have. I actually ended up testing all of my pads in the tent last night in a few configurations. Putting a closed cell foam pad underneath the thermarest completely silenced the squeaking, so I ordered the “thinlight” pad from gossamer gear to use in the future. It’s only about 3 oz and should solve my problem.
@@Keillan5480 oh. I get it now.
The pad moved around some. I do toss and turn though.
Didn’t notice any noise though
I have the gossamer gear pad too but don’t bring it (weight weenie….)
It’s a great tent but I switched to the Tarptent notch. Less weight, double wall and DYNEEMA!
If I stayed with a syl nylon tent I’d buy the tiger wall instead of this for extra room.
Good luck!
Great video. Thanks for the demo.
I really like the roomy space and light weight. But I'm a bit concerned about the tent floor which looks quite loose and could flatter. Is it only when the inner tent stands alone? Do stakes make a big difference? Thank you for your great review! Best wishes🌏
It’s a great tent. The floor is fine. Other than to prevent it from blowing away in the wind, you only really need stakes to hold the vestibules open. I think I mentioned it in the review but the tiger wall is a great tent too. CS is totally free standing and went with it in the event I had a rocky area to pitch on. I didn’t need the extra room of the tiger wall. Both great though. Good luck!
@@pgreenx Thank you for sharing your experience! I like to have a tent for tropic climate but to see you with this kind of tent in snowy conditions did really surprise & also impress me. B.A. seems to be a good choice. Enjoy your trips!
@@kalsangdoelma4635 I live in the northeast of United States which is a very humid rainy area especially in summer. This tent works great in that kind of climate
Great review, much appreciated.
Hi! I have the Tiger Wall UL2 and am considering this tent because it's free standing and you can set it up in the rain with the fly and footprint....but, you think the space is more important?
If I did it again, and bought another double wall tent, I’d probably go with the tw for more space. The stakes you need for the TW are few and it is almost free standing with more space.
Hope this helps. It’s still a really great tent and I carried it for almost 1000 miles last yr and always enjoyed it.
Looks great, im thinking of getting one soon. Have you had any issues with rain considering the floor waterproof rating is pretty low? Also the rain fly seems to leave quite a bit of the inner tent exposed at the head end- have you had issues if the rain gets blown diagonally onto that?
No issues although I switched to a dyneema Tarptent because this tent got water logged after a rainy night. Didn’t get wet during the night but a pain to pack up and dry out
@@pgreenx how did it get waterlogged if its waterproof? Would this factor be typical of any other silnylon tent? Cheers.
@@EarlyMist when I say waterlogged; it kept me dry but the outer side of the material absorbed water and stayed wet and I had to pack up a wet and heavy tent. Didn’t dry out until I had a sunny day. Same for all sylnylon tents.
I did switch to a dyneema tent which repels most of the water by shaking it. Dyneema does not absorb water like nylon or sylnylon plus it doesn’t sag overnight
Really good points. Thanks
very informative, thank you very much!!!!
Glad it helped. Great tent!
Can u recommend a daily tent?
Id go with this or the Tiger wall. the latter is what Id buy if I bought another Big Agnes tent
@@pgreenx why not the copper spur hv ul2? I have the bikepacking version and enjoy using it.
Tiger wall does come in a 1p. Nice review!
Thanks. I didn’t know that.
intelligent review thanks going to buy one
Glad I could help. Great tent!
Thorough review. 👍🏼
Glad you liked it
Can u recommend a family tent
Any of the 4 person Big Agnes Car Camping tents are great (ie dog house, bunk house or big house). Make sure you get one that's not too big or you will dread setting it up
super thorough
Smart Review.
Thanks! If you made it to the end I replaced this with a tarp tent notch li
Thanks!,
Thanks! Glad it helped
it's possible to put your clothes, backpack inside the core of a tent or there is no space near you and you will put it outside
I never brought my pack in the tent. I found it pretty tight and wanted the room for moving around. I know others with this tent that do. I left the pack outside and put anything clean (ie puffy jacket, dry rain jacket, etc) in the pack and only brought in my clothes I wore for the day unless they were wet. I included the sleeping pad so you could see there's plenty of room inside but its far from spacious vs what it looks like from the outside. Hope this helps!
@@pgreenx thanks!